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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 มิ.ย. 2024
- Warframe is very confusing, but good.
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Warframe is a game with a lot of challenges, knightmareframe and tactical potato, iFlynn and Quite Shadow do them a lot. I think legendary drops and asmongold would like this game. This video could serve as a warframe guide for new players.
#warframe #guide #thefinalshape - เกม
>story is a nothingburger
Here is me unironically playing Warframe for the lore and story.
At this point I’ve almost done every story quest in the game, it does get really fucking good. However, the problem I bring up is that it takes almost 80 hours to materialize into anything, which I feel is kinda bad
@@Magollon The reason why it gets good only after that cuz early missions are from.. well.. early times of WF,and devs didnt really knew what to do with the game, but yeah, the issue is here which is sad :c
@@Magollonif they delivered little story beats at every junction (leading up to the natah quest) or something that built up the mystery of who the lotus is and who you are would go a long way. Not a fully fledged quest or anything just a transmission or something to keep new players questioning their place in the universe until the story starts proper
They didnt even have a mocap studio until the second dream released (not sure if animations were outsourced or just handmade)
@@Magollon Warframe lore and general story idea in my opinion are amazing but whole path is not smooth and directed that well. In my opinion main story should materialize slow but there should be more significant and interesting stuff in between (things that makes you care more about the world in general - at least like Fortuna story)
Any money i spent on warframe is because i want to reward the people who made it, and I never payed for it, and i want them keep doing it.
Warframe is the game i most "wasted" money on, even without the game gatekeeping me, waiting for my money to progress, or even knowing i can obtain the cash currency in game.
I know some people might think this is a lie or something but I feel the same way. As of June 14th, 2024, I have never felt pressured to spend money on the game. After learning it, it’s not really necessary for you to spend money on the game unless you want to.
I’m not really sure where all this platinum is coming from though. Do the devs give plat to people so they can distribute it among players? I know there are always people who buy play, but still. Either way, you can get plenty of it for just trading in game items with other players
literally. Shame about all the flags but apparently thats just everything now anyway. Itd be nice to see my favourite game actually not suck blackrock off though.
Yep, I refused to spend any money on the game, just on principle, until I was positive I'd done everything I would ever need to do in order to beat everything on Steel Path without paying for it. Now that I've reached that point, I feel OK paying real money to support the game that's given me almost a thousand hours of play.
@@yamnbam4346 plat given by devs are untradable.
The one circulating in game are all bought by players.
0:58 "us experienced veteran warframe players"
he says while still having the cyst on his neck
I have 8.5k hours in the game, all of my frames have the cyst on their neck. Granted a lot of my drip is infested or purple colored so it doesn't matter so much for me. Instead, I do my part spreading the pox of Nurgle to all the newbies so that they may tear their hair out wondering what that giant purple zit is on their neck.
@@ComotoseOnAnime you remind me of a guy that talked about spreading parasites on reddit
when you go against the murmur faction in late game the music becomes a banger
When the music drops and Necramech appears 😱🥶
@@walkelftexasranger my fav is when you go against the grimoir book. It is just PERFECTION
When you launch the game the music is a banger 😂
Music is another of Warframe's best features. Music gets better each update.
Jade's Theme, Duviri's music, Corpus synths
Dog.
You forgot the other pet.
CAT.
forgot the other other pet.. fox
forgot the other other other pet.. chicken
forgot the other other other other pet... space herpes
Forgot the other other other other pet....
ROBODOG
You also forgot the other pet…. Floating mini water fueled death ac
To say the Starchart takes only 100 hours is an understatement on its own. Not only does that mean you solely focused on missions, there’s a few that are locked behind story missions that, without proper time to grind out gear and items, will be incredibly difficult. If they don’t completely block you from doing them until you craft certain items, *New War PTSD*
All im gonna say is fuck the jordas precept earlygame
Voidrig grind is designed to deter new players Istg
@@destroyer99612 I remmeber me and my buddy taking like 20 mins of mindless shooting just to kill this thing XDXD
Man i restarted this game 3 weeks ago since i stopped in 2015....i caught up to all quests...except new war....i ve been grinding for a solid 2 weeks to get that necramech and its mods and whatnot ! Im finally done and monday the necramech will be done crafting !
I unlocked my Voidrig yesterday. It finally completed crafting after 3 damn days, doesn’t include 12 hours per part.….and I haven’t started the New War yet. The Necramech is the first legitimate grind that you’ll have to do, but it’s worth it. You can get items drops from the pylons, instead of having to rank up the “daughter”, which I didn’t do just for a certain fish bait.
oh my sweet baby tenno. Good luck and may your soul rest in peace...
The biggest issue with Warframe's early story is it was time limited. A lot of relevant story progress was only seen during the time limited event that introduced new bosses. Which means most people never got to experience the conflict/story that resulted in bosses presence in their system.
It's a huge flaw that I wish they resolved because they have the story there, they just never actually implement it properly after the introduction events conclude.
Yeah, the early events were what kinda defined characters like Vor, Sargus Ruk, Lech Kril, Alad V, etc. Never mind that there's still a placeholder for a boss with the Sergeant. I think the best way they could introduce the early lore is to take some of the old Alert and Operation content, make small mini quests out of them introducing the various types of missions as they come; Sling stone, Eyes of Blight, Cryotic Front, Breeding Grounds, Gate Crash, etc. Little 5-10 minute pre-quest nodes or something leading into the mission. OR a little 5-10 minute quest on those specific missions that has to be completed before the node unlocks for farming. Say that the Cryotic Front pre-mission gets short handed to the Kiliken mission node on Venus. and you have to complete that pre quest before you can enter the Larunda Relay as that Operation introduced Baro Ki'teer.
Stuff like that, just a short introduction to the established characters and their significance in early star chart.
The warframe story is this
Start : okay I’m a cool space ninja
Middle : Idk what’s happening and tbh idc
End: OMG THIS IS AMAZING
Start: Mother?
Mid: Mother?! Dad?!
End: Mother!
@@moonrivervayonetta More like Mommy
Start: they hit me hard
Mid: I can't be stopped
End: I commit war crimes
@@walkelftexasranger spacemom
Most accurate @@yofolkdem1256
as a Warframe Veteran, the story is in this unfortunate place where some of the pre-Natah quests do actually tie together with the main story, but they're often spaced far enough away from those later quests that you forget about the specific pieces of dialogue in the earlier quests (looking at Stolen Dreams and Heart of Deimos here). Other earlier quests are simply related to a smaller part of the game and while interesting, not everyone is going to care about (Gara's quest, for instance, most people do the quest to get Gara, not to understand her lore). Once you hit Natah, things start falling into place as the quests from there are largely sequential and their cinematic nature (most of them) lends itself to make them more memorable before the next one. Heart of Deimos would benefit from that too if it wasn't so far back in the star chart comparatively that it gets forgotten between Mars and Uranus.
Other than that, a lot of the other lore/story of the game is harder to find, hidden in little areas like in the Codex, Luverian, and other smaller spaces. Annoyingly some of it is also lost to old events, only to be found on the wiki or in a youtube video going over all the lore of the game. Some other parts are deliberately mysterious, not fully detailed, leaving some parts untold (yet, at least)
I do hope they rework the old quests pre-Natah to be more engaging or interesting. I'm not saying the story isn't interesting but early quests need that spark to interest beginner players. It might not happen, but I just hope they do.
I'm pretty sure Gara's quest is mandatory to progress the star chart... Though I think that's the only one quest to get a warframe where that's the case
what's the link between heart of Deimos and Stolen Dreams?
the only real complexity of warframe is the shear amount of systems stacked on top of each overall working in unison. Mods, Arcanes, Focus Trees, Weapon traits, Companions, Ability buffs, external buffs, weapon types, statuses, critical hits, ect. So many systems are just thrown at you without much explanation. However youtube guides are everywhere.
my first 100 hours in warframe was just research and in my 200 hour i was leveling up my frame then in 300 hours i was grinding plat and the rest was just being AFK doing trades and survival missions.
I’m on that reputation grindset right now
It’s not terrible to grind reputation but you should wait till your a bit higher mastery rank. Higher mastery rank you are the more reputation you can earn every day making said grind take less time. Also not every but most reputations have some type of medallion/ fragments that can be collected in mass then you can exchange them for reputation every day you log in so you don’t have to do a million missions every week.
Warframe Veteran™ here:
Yeah, most of the game's issues have always stemmed from the early game stuff, and it's been like that for years now.
I do wish DE would spend a month or two overhauling the older systems and content, at the minimum. But! The stuff they've been releasing as of late has been banger after banger (at least, I think so)
Welcome to Warframe, and enjoy your stay, Tenno!
DE's worst mistake with the story is that for the first 7 years or so (up until Plains) there's a lot of things they put into Events, which are just gone (if you're lucky you can read about them on the wiki). Alad V's story is the worst offender for this.
I'm like 2500h in and have no fking idea what is going on in this universe or what characters are related to whom. Started in 2015, did all the quests and uninstalled. Reinstalled in 2017 and run the second dream quest which was just confusing as I was lacking context. Now one of the most important and emotional quests is 7 years ago and I can barely remember a thing of all the crap that happened back then. But it's still my favorite game, as I love to play around with gear and experiment. I've like 300h in the Simulacrum alone and love to play the hardest mission in different variants and frames. This game is truely special.
It has the cod zombies storytelling of:
There's a really complex story here, but we're not going to directly tell you. Instead, here's a riddle that explains what's happening.
@@harmoen Maybe I'm just stupid in this regard. But I even watched lore videos and I can't make sense of all that stuff going on. But there is a good story I assume. I love the gunplay, parkour perfection, Weapon Sound design, theorycrafting and collecting everything. I'm even a Railjack enjoyer.
See the story as finding out who you REALLY are
We start the game waking up and being this suit if battle prowess that has to fight to not be enslaved by this faction.
We then find out that there are other suits that we can become so are we the suits or are the suits others we control.
When you find out what you really are is where the lore really kicks in- are we working with the suits or are they unwilling enslaved that we command.
This is a part that many skip past as they don't want to think of Warframes being used against their will so they say the game has no lore that makes sense
Find out which way you see the lore and the game opens up to you
I could imagine if later on when they ever fix the issue of the game not telling you about the premium currency, Ordis just breaks the fourth wall and tells you all about where to farm the warframe/weapon, how to get the currency without buying it with real money, and other methods of farming said warframe/weapon. Though it might “break the immersion” it’s there to help guide players from buying platinum to buy a warframe they can easily just farm a boss for.
this isnt even that bad due to Ordis clearly corrupted state, you could have him glitch into the explanation and then have him go "what was I saying?"
Atleast this seemed feasible if he wasnt part of the story in.......nearly inconsequential roles
@@bloodfallenevileye5688 the orokin and sentients would shit their collective pants if ordis regained his memories and trained the operator
@@nicosyncixlegendary1888 thats true, if ordis would ever overcome his cephalonification he would be extremely potent
I would add few more criticisms on the early game (new player experience specifically):
- lack of gun variety - tons of weapons, but almost nothing is available at the very start/easily, most likely need a friend to taxi you to higher tier planets to farm materials for even MR2 weapons (thats how I was getting Vectis)
- lack of slots for everything - if not for that said friend to just gift me dozens of slots when I started, I would've dropped it, because early on it is very predatory - "pay platinum to own more than 3 guns or else!"
- lack of customization options - tons of color pallets, can customize every color on your frame... and you only have one ROW of a basic pallete. Everything else - 75p! And while yeah, that's just a decoration, but that creates this illusion of inaccessibility - where to have any choice of anything you would have to pay.
Its only when you accumulate a huge inventory of prime junk that's worth way more than you thought and you start actively trading and get thousands of plat easily, you finally realize how petty those prices were and how tiny those barriers are. But until then, unless someone proves to you otherwise, you'd be under impression that this is yet another scammy predatory cash-grabby F2P title.
Honestly its just sad how the game manages to misrepresent itself to the newest players and its only a loyal fanbase that is actively fixing that. Now I'm part of that fanbase, gifting slots to newbies left and right, sometimes even gifting prime frames (no MR restriction).
Regarding the colors, when I bough some plat, the first purchase I did was the full standard palette. It's nice there are a few palette than can be freely unlocked, but sadly they are usually tied to seasonal/temporary events
@@baudsp yep, when I started I naturally sought every opportunity to grab free stuff and sadly colors-wise my first free seasonal palette happened after I bought my second for plat...
True that early on slots feels hard to earn early but seeing how nora gives slots now not that bad like before nora
@@lag00n54 ah yes, that one is a nice source of goodies, unless some newbies do not notice that feature and have no clue they need to do specific missions to progress that 'battle-pass-like' faster. In fact, most of 4.5k and 7k point tasks are unavailable for newbies unless someone taxis them there - like eido hunt, index (for those who didn't make it to neptune yet), deimos vaults, etc.
i hard disagree with the customization point. if anything it stops players from focusing too hard on customization at the start, even then theres almost always an event going on with a free color pallet, if not theres one on the way, i have like 15 free pallets
The second dream was the first real story mission. Everything before that had lore sure but it wasn’t a focused narrative. Warframe does actually have some amazing story and lore, and as you get to more recent content it’s a bit more woven in, but much like the new player experience, the “wanna learn about the story” experience involves a lot of TH-cam videos and a lot of research through the wikis.
just got back into warframe and I’m glad i found your channel bro, incredibly underrated
Having almost 3k hours in this game I think you hit the nail on the head on a lot of issues new players have.
The biggest one is absolutely the market. Flashing a premium currency price-tag first-and-foremost can be a huge turn-off to a lot of new players.
Now, if you got to market and click a Warframe or weapon it THEN shows you the blueprint/aquisition. But that's only if you bother to open the tab, which a lot of new players simply do not do. A market UI rework would help tremendously I feel.
Another huge flaw of the game in my opinion is while, yes, everything save certain cosmetics can be obtained 100% free via player-trading, the fact that you *need* weapon slots and Warframe slots to progress and can *only* get them from the market for platinum (a pitifully small amount, but still) and occasionally from the nightwave--which a lot of new players probably wont even know to engage with--and which only offers a very limited amount of said slots.
Tying into the market rework, having the slots be available as a craftable blueprint would be a massive improvement.
...which leads me to the final of my Big Three Complaints: The crafting times.
Now, I'm a patient guy. And after the thousands of hours I've spent on this game, I'm used to it by now. And yet, wouldn't you rather have that shiny new Warframe you spent the last 4 hours farming NOW rather than 84 hours from now? I know I would. Or how about that new weapon you've been aching to try ? Waiting anywhere from 12 hours on the short end, to 36 hours and rarely even more, depending on if the weapon has requisite components that also need crafting (I.e. the Ruvox) it can take a tremendous amount of time. Being forced into a time-gate via the crafting just feels so outdated and ruins the flow of the game for me. Rushing things for platinum also seems like a huge waste and just feels so out of place.
At most warframes should take an hour to build, weapons maybe 30min. Even then, that's a lot of time to spend waiting. Thankfully, it's not like you have nothing else to do while you wait--which is probably why so few people seem to complain about crafting times--as you have a MOUNTAIN of other content to dive into while your frames/weapons/etc craft.
TL/DR: Market needs a UI change, slots need to be more easily available, crafting times need to be reduced or outright done away with.
For every thing Warframe gets wrong, It also does a half-dozen things right. It's a great game overall--even given it's numerous flaws--and I'm glad the Devs have stuck with it for over a decade and continue to make improvements and listen to community feedback as much as they do. It truly is a passion project and it's rare to see something like it in this day and age, especially with the current climate in the gaming world.
In any event, I hope you continue to enjoy your journey into this game lad, happy farming.
Crafting times are my biggest complaint. It feels like I’m playing a glorified mobile game with the times. Like rn I’m crafting the voidrig which is an item NEEDED for the new war. Why do I have to spend hours grinding just to wait 12 hours for the individual parts to craft then days to get something that is required to progress my star chart. The times feel like a method they used to pad out the game that’s just not needed anymore. I can wait 30 min to an hour for a gun or a Warframe but a 3 day arbitrary wait time is stupid to me.
when u complete the star chart is when u are done with the tutorial and the actual game starts
as someone with thousands of hours in the game, i agree. the new player experience is genuinely bad even tho it got reworked. the story feels super disjointed unless you read it like a book from the wiki. another issue youll realize that DE kills its own game and missions by trivializing older content. eg. eidolon hunting killed by events, vosfor and focus rework. archon hunts killed by netracells, index killed by profit taker.
Asides from OSRS and GW2 I feel like every single mmo type game struggles with this as they release new content and it is very annoying
Dunoo, still love running Index cuz i have no idea twtf to dith this big porfit taker orb, and Index is here just run and kill easy money:D Also fuck archon hunts,im glad we have vosfor
I'm fairly certain that the decision for events having eido arcanes is because barely anyone is running eido. I can almost guarantee you that nearly 75% of the active player base has never done an eido hunt nor knows how to do one.
@@psychokuca302 I run index too even tho PT is faster and more profitable. But as an avid eido hunter I do not like vosfor. Every major update the arcane market tanks. Each to their own I suppose
@@the_arsonist813 I hated how time gated eido hunt was
Now I can go to the Lua,farm for random arcanes whenever I want, then get vosfor and try for eido arcanes
Or get random arcanes I got through just playing and get other one, so yeah, I like this system, but I can see how it just killes eido hunt
To be fair, a big part of the lore needed you to be there to experience them on the day of release, considering alot of them came with operations that gave them more depth.
Kind of similar to Helldivers's Malevelon Creek.
And also to add years of build ups for some major story quests.
about the story i think we also have to remember when the first story missions was made the company was really small a decade ago. seeing how the story expands because their budget is higer to put more quality in is like its own journy on it self and maybe also there for the OGs to remember what they came from and what we have now
Random fact: Bullet Jumping through the game, the main form of movement, started out as a bug that players enjoyed using, so the devs decided to keep it in and make it a mechanic.
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I can see how a new player would think circuit is optional, but unfortunately when you start going for incarnon weapons, easily the strongest weapons in the game for most things, you have to do steel path circuit every week and fully get each reward.
Also because of all of the content specific rescources and rewards, you’ll eventually be forced to interact with all of it to some degree. Things like index is way outdated so you can ignore that for credit farming, but you’re going to have to fight profit taker whether you want to or not, since he’s by far the fastest way to earn standing in that faction.
The thumbnail is high art. I learned all in this game alone at the begining because I'm scared of people, the wiki is my best friend
Lmaoo this video is amazing bro
Best part about bullet jump is that it came from a bug with dash attack mechanic. And people abuse this as hell. So DE fix the bug and create bullet jump.
I understand your take on the "void" of the story in warframe, as i recently bring my girlfriend to start the game, and seen the game through the eyes of a new player in 2024.
Those quests may look meaningless when you are playing them in rapid succession in 3 hour long daily sessions.
But I started back when Warframe was a corridor simulator, and the only lore was availlable through the codex pickup you can scan in missions.
And when those story quest were drip-fed over years to us, and tied the lore we until now had only read about : it was well worth it.
Most notably, all of the Alad V arc fell flat in front of me when replaying it. Because without the gameplay events, the time needed to build his character as an ally, then a traitor, then coming back begging, etc. all the quests are doing is picturing this guy in differents situations, without any apparent connections.
The story of Warframe is great because of how deep and fleshed out its universe is, unfortunately most of the lore stuff you can only get through text (codex or wiki), discontinued events, obsolete missions quotes, etc. And unfortunately, you will be served a story, but without the lore making it special, it's just like a cold burger.
My take on a lore-friendly new player experience :
- do not try to rush the star chart to get to Nathah/ The Second Dream faster
- try getting some lore from the codex and other ingame sources along the way
- if it exist find a video essay about "Warframe Lore : the basics before the second dream [no spoilers]"
(if it doesn't please someone make one :D )
My biggest tip to a warframe newbie would be to learn the market. There are plenty of insanely simple ways to make hundreds of plat, and there are a couple things in this game that take much longer to farm for themselves rather than just farming plat from trading and buying it from the market.
Also having constant access to boosters is a godsend early game when resources are low and you’re crafting like 50 weapons and warframe
1000+ hours into warframe and I still don’t know the story 😂
The early game definitely needs some improvements. We've been screaming (respectfully) this for years. And you're pretty spot on with the quests being meh up untill the second dream.
The worst part about that is they could really easily fix that.
For a lot of the characters in game there was a special event with a semi quest related to it that introduced the characters spot on, their personalities, intentions and location.
But after that event was gone they simply removed those special semi quests from the game. They could really easily fix the world building before the second dream with just making those semi quests playable again when you first encounter those characters.
Not only would that give you a reason to give a shit about The characters because you actually get introduced to them instead of. "He bad guy, go kill bad guy!" It would also really help with setting a clearer progression path on game.
And there have been some improvements. Believe me, the onboarding process was way worse like 4 years ago.
But they definitely still need to address the fact that they don't really teach people how the modding system works, what types of currency there are and how you can obtain them. (there is a lot and I include platinum in that. I totally agree with you that the game should explain how you can obtain that stuff without pulling out your credit card)
And also please fix the codex! (Ingame wiki basically)
The codex just act like a wiki but most of the information in there is just. "Go get the item first and then we will tell you what it does."
Just make it so that the codex will just have all the information from the start and then have a little icon form completion in the corner once you actually get the item.
This is especially bad with mods in the codex. Like, it will show all the mods, their names and what enemies drop it. That's good.
You don't get to see what the mod does though untill you actually aquire the mod and good luck finding out on what planet/start chart note those enemies that drop it come from.
If you want to farm basically anything you are required to have the wiki open at all times.
Warframe is a good game. If you know all the systems.
For new players you either just quit or have someone guiding you trough. Because trying to learn all of what the game has to offer by yourself is nearly impossible.
And this comes from someone who has spend over 5000 hours in the game.
I love this game with all my heart, but god does it have problems.
Luckily the team has really been focusing on quality of life this past year or so. Let's hope they also improve the new players experience soon.
After seeing the Squirt Duration mod, I NEED to add that to my Nezha build
The reason veteran players don’t mind the game being like league is cause like u said earlier in the video the star chart and quests are the progression of the game. U don’t really need a billion hours in a build to take on all the content which is tbh really good and new player friendly. There isn’t anything ur forced to go do and can take it at ur own pace. I think the actual problem like u stated in the market part of the video is none of the actual systems of grinding or playing are ever explained and that still leaves me as a vet very frustrated because I wish it was easier to explain things like relics for prime parts or grinding for warframes by killing bosses or even how to navigate the hellscape of early game trading.
A good amount of quests are introduction of warframe and as a reward you unlock the part to build it. And then their are main quest where the story unfold
One thing I think you could have mentioned here is prime resurgence and vaulting, being that only a few prime items are in circulation at once and other ones can take a year to come back. This means there is kinda a time lock on getting some of the best weapons as if you miss it it's gone for ages, plus the vaulted relics being so damn hard to grind for
Most of the vaulted prime weapon are mastery fodder anyway. The best prime weapon are braton n burston with incarnon.
every player that i've spoken to or had in my guild that has played for a long time has invested real money at some point, it's not just whales that drag the game along it's people that like the game and therefore support it when and how they can.. even if it's to wait for that sweet 70% off plat offer .. you don't get a game lasting over 10 years without a huge loyal playerbase .. nice vid you've earnt a sub
Been watching several tutorials on everything even the hidden abilities that warframes have you really got to watch so much of it or else you’ll make a mistake that you might regret
Oh you have just gone through The War Within, wait until you play The Sacrifice, The New War, and Whispers in the Wall. These quests were fantastic (well, whispers was okay). But genuinely, I’ve replayed The Sacrifice several times.
The new war was probably the best quest I've ever played in any game ever
The thumbnail is crazy vibes lol
100 hours on tutorial, 1 hour of fun, 10000 hours forma and strengthening Warframes, 9999 billion hours for 100 Kuva 😅
Really great video my dude, but you better don't forget about that lamborghini now! I'll be waiting for it
then here begs the question : who's the best squirter in Warframe ?🧐
Ya... there is a massive learning curve. The massive variety of things that you can do in the game are both it's strength and it's weakness. They have been churning out new content at a breakneck speed for over 10 years. They try and go back and streamline things periodically, but it is difficult to make the insane number of systems digestible.
Very well spoken. Amazing video. You gained a sub.
My first mission with the Railjack was a blast.. I was shocked that Warframe has space combat and games like D2 don't...
Once you get to endgame and casually start doing dps numbers that would realistically nuke a planet you’ll start helping noobs just to have a reason to keep playing outside extreme min-maxing and *THE GRIND*
You're fkn hilarious and that gotdamned thumbnail is cursed.. W yt recommendation👊🏽
If you go to buy somthing in the market you can also see where to farm that weapon or frame
Warframe was honestly my favorite game to learn how to play. It was absolutely confusing as hell but in the end i became max mastery
Best lore and story, but it doesnt start until after natah and the 2nd dream.
The new war is like such a jump from anything
"Just farm whatever boss drops the parts"
Oh you sweet summer child. The grind for Harrow, Gauss, Nidus and more can take forever. Although with Duviri tou can get them a lot less painfully.
351 days = 8424 hours of playing Warframe. Still have no idea about most of the stuff. Playing with Wiki opened, getting frustrated for selling something that i didn't need, but i absolutely need NOW, wishing i've known not to sell it. Getting angry for not knowing about the second Daimos segment for the Helminth, or for not getting tauforged shards, or for spending hours getting something i need to make something i need to make something i need to make something... you know the game. It is frustrating, it is complicated, it is complex, it is fun. Hope you keep playing it, because it is only getting better. GL #havefun
I almost, almost got angry when you said the quests were bad then I realized, yep all the early game quests are bad and dated, I know it's not a priority rn but it would be nice if DE can revisit the early game quests to bring them on par with the sacrifice quest and the Jade shadows quest. I agree Warframe has an issue with the lack of hand holding, they should really get new players acquainted with the game systems but even then there is so much that I can't imagine how DE can even tackle this. Like I'm a new player in league, just begun yesterday and even with the small amount I know I can't see Riot being able to teach me the intricacies of the champions, gear and tactics. Though for the fact that there is no hand holding you would then say it brings players together, you had to seek out a clan and talk to other players, and even seemed out guides and builds on TH-cam for weapons and game modes feeding more into that community aspect. So while typing this I can say that actually maybe not having any handholding has huge benefits when it comes to community, like without this way of setting up your game I'm sure both league and Warframe wouldn't have as big of a fanbase
Even though the early quests are much less connected, I wouldnt go so far as saying they are "nothingburgers". I still have strong memories of my first time on Fortuna, the quest that got me hooked and showed me that there was something more to the game. The story is the main reason I love this game!
I started playing almost 10 years ago on Xbox. Since i’ve gone through 3 different accounts ( all on different platforms before cross progression was added) and i JUST now got my first prime warframe from grinding. Back when I originally started the game was only a fraction of what it is now. I’ll get on for a month every few years or so, and every time I get on, there’s an entire new realm to explore
To be fair, the game lists the platinum prices first, but when you actually click on the warframe or weapon you get taken to the purchase screen where you can decide whether to buy the full item or the blueprint. Some blueprints even tell you where you can grind for the parts.
I played this when it first went live years ago. I reinstalled in a couple weeks back and had zero idea wtf was going on
Warframe is that type of game of you either have played from the start and learned along the way where times were simpler or join through a friend who has played an excessive amount of time and can help you along the way. I was part of the later half, and I do my best to help others getting into it.
Q&A chat is such a valuable tool once you know it exists. i always poiint people to the Q&A chat. youll usually find that 1000 hour freind there
also i saw you jumping through the portal and then aborting, you dont have to enter the portal. oddly enough not continuing the sanctuary is how you finish the sanctuary
I think part of the reason the lore of Warframe is beloved is because of the stuff outside the quests, but the issue is that even some veteran players will miss it if they don't explicitly look for it.
For example, scanning certain enemy units to completion for a certain Cephalon will unlock story snippets stored in the Codex, which as short as they are, are interesting. Then there is also the previous seasons of Nightwaves before they shifted to less story based content, albeit the seasons all ended with a confrontation with the new enemy that was built up through the weeks. Lastly is the Leverian, which serves as sort of a pocket museum.
In terms of fan content, you have lore channels dedicated to going in depth on the lore, like DSeige, StallordD, My Name is Byf and Tactical Potato to name a few.
Having said that, one of the coolest warframe related things i've seen, has to be Rahetalius well made fan-lore known as "The Ouroborous" series.
Hey there. Happy to know you're loving warframe.
Good luck with the job hunt. Tines are tough. Maybe the warframe community might be good enough to get you one of thoee as well.
the jump scare got me.. "HAY!" haha
side note - as a veteran player, your analysis is very very accurate. Well done - I hope the devs get a chance to hear this critique.
Thank you so much
I have around 900 hours in game, but its over lots of years, with much time where i spent 3 or more years without playing, came back a couple days ago, i have no idea about at least half what is going on.. LOL...
But it really is a great game by an amazing company
Your content is so underrated
Thank you so much that means a lot
Vanilla player starting experience seriously needs a revamp with enough resources to be it's own major patch. Being able to start Duviri instead of the Vanilla start was just a band aid fix at best. It could also use a number of other quality of life additions, but those are 'slowly' being rolled out over a really long time... Still curious what the next major milestones for the game will be as it still progresses.
I „only“ have about 900 hours and I absolutely agree that most of the new player experience is terrible unless you have someone helping you. The only thing I can say for the story is that it gets better pretty quickly at a certain point but I will leave you to find that for yourself. The most important thing for me in Warframe is as you said the fact that you aren’t forced to do anything and I think that is fantastic. As a long time player I only just did the Duviri Paradox last week because I just didn‘t feel like doing it and I think just having the option to do whatever you feel like in a game like this can not be understated. Sorry for yapping
love the yapping, but yeah coming from other mmos its super refreshing
“As soon as I did they…” Hush tenno, this is the way. 😂
Ya thankfully the story does get really involved and really good starting at second dream and war within, but it’s unfortunate it takes so long for new players to experience it
I was also confused with Story when I started, but once I've done New War everything "clicked" and everything started to make sense.
Story that seemed meaningless now made perfect sence (like first quests where you fight Captain Vor).
Yep everything you say about this game is true could explain a little better coming from a guy that's got 2,000 in this game and yes the biggest thing is the money sink you do not need to spend money on this game you can farm any relevant prime warframes or guns to sell to buy the things that you can't get you never need to actually spend money on the game
Warframe's story is probably the biggest source of surprise and value that this FREE game has to offer, and you would never know it exists from the outside. The Second Dream is the biggest turning point there is for new players to change how they experience the game from then on.
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POV when you’re a 2000 veteran and you see the new game struggle.
As for new players, yeah… I get it. I see all these new systems and think “yay, more new stuff to do.” But the new players I imagine get fuck tons of analysis paralysis.
How you teach a new player everything that a veteran know? It takes time, I can't teach everything I know to a baby Tenno in half hour. I had been in this situation before, took me half year to help that Tenno reach me in the game. Warframe Just gets bigger and bigger there's no way to put all the information inside of a New player head just like that.
As a long time Warframe player all of your points are completely valid and I agree with them. I help my friends with figuring the game out all the time , but the fact that I have to is a fundamental flaw in the design that should be looked into.
The new content in Warframe has been fantastic recently, but unless the old content gets some TLC, new players will be hard to keep as they may quit before reaching that actually good content.
Started playing about two months ago, nearing 200 hours of playtime. I keep thinking I finnaly got a grip on most things and understand the game and then new things just keep popping up, and I say that in a fully positive way.
Decided to not join an existing clan and make my own instead, so far just me and my little brother but I got some friends that are starting to show interest in the game so hopefully we'll expand with more members. Never liked getting free stuff and instant access to things in games, I want to work for everything and experience the whole process.
New player exp: this is so sickk Veteran exp: damn I wasted 2000 hours for nothing
5:20 very true, i first tried the game back in like 2013 and i found the gameplay pretty fun, even though it was much different from how it is today, but when i checked the market in game and saw some of the weapons had blueprints available but some didn't i assumed the game was pay to win and dropped it immediately, wasn't until 2017 that i gave the game a second chance and actually interacted with the community that i found out it was far from pay to win.
2:22 - There aren't a lot of daily grinds.
Weekly - Archon Hunt
Weekly - Nightwave reset
Weekly - Helminth reset
Daily - Sortie
Daily - Nightwave new mission
Daily - Syndicate reputation reset
Daily - Simaris reset
Yeah...not sure if you haven't unlocked things yet...or you just don't understand how much of Warframe is tied to a daily counter. That's after the 12 hours + 72 hours to get frames, 12-24 hours to get single piece weapons, and the Lesion parts build. This is all after improvements...because that Railjack mission used to be 12 hours between each stage twiddling your thumbs.
0:04 uhh.... no, just no.
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I loved and agreed with every part of this review, even the harsh parts, except when you referred to the Second Dream as a "whatever" quest. Luckily you'll love the story as it continues, but it's still jarring to hear someone downplay it. You might actually be the first I've heard give it a 'meh' rating xD.
Allow me to explain: the only other time in the history of gaming a twist that powerful and unexpected crept up on players was KOTOR, and even there it's only a plot twist. In Warframe the twist changes the entire game. It changes your understanding of the game, it changes how you play the game (even if its a grind to use it effectively), and although it leans into your criticism of the game having 'nothing burgers' up until that point, it essentially jumpstarts the actual story people love this game for.
I'm curious if the twist had less of an impact on you because you played Duviri and got introduced to the Drifter. To those of us who played the game before Duviri was a thing, Second Dream was like waking up from the matrix. No joke. I'll keep saying it, DE needs to push Duviri to after the Second Dream.
Just wait till he gets corrupted mods and invigorates volt. Also going on 2.8k hrs I completely agree with all your points. This is a great video.
I think the story is pretty good. My personal problem with it is that you’ll experience it in chunks at a time, and that it really takes a while for it ‘start,’ too. The periods of time spent grinding or doing whatever between each major quest can also get a little lengthy depending on how you play.
To clear the star chart is like 2m to 15m per mission at most. Steel path is the same thing but you just need better gear to be able to do it. Modding does not have infinite ways of setting it up. There is the you do damage way, and there is you shoot confetti. It is very simple actually. Just add damage multipliers (flat damage -> elemental -> multishot -> crit chance -> crit damage -> special)
It used to not tell you a lot about the farm locations or the ingame ways to get things. Now it does. You just have to read. Which a lot of people seem not to want to do.
I disagree about the story in warframe being bad. Warframes story is extremely deep. And yeah, instead of developing these awesome story elements de has released more warframes and weapons to farm... Which I like too, so I can't really complain about it I guess... But it is a pretty good story with juicy lore if u seek it out and make an effort to follow it, cause it is a little difficult to get into to and if u dont slow down and pay attention in some of the quests, it will go right over your head...
I picked Volt as well... Do you also think he would look better without his skirt?
Once you get through that horrible necramech grind and get to new war there so much great music and a great story. Kahl is the goat!
I liked the video just for the thumbnail.
I would like to have a more varied loot table for railjack. Today it's not worth it
In defense of the hours of no story, I think they had to find their footing with the story for a while. I think the second dream is where people noticed that there's a legitimate story to follow with cut scenes and dialog and stuff. It's literally all uphill from there tho.
I've been watching my husband plsy for years. It wasn't until Jade, the newest warframe, csm out that i actually started my game. He has been teaching me how to play and the ins and outs of the game. He started playing shortly after warframe originally came out.
i thought that when you click into the warframe in the market it shows the blueprint underneath the price stating how to obtain it for free
I've been on an omega long break from Warframe like Second Dream long. And I wanna get back in but I'm worried I just wont know which direction to go.
I allready had a spare stake ready for you when I saw this video .
Fit 2 parkour mods onto every warframe you use , thank me later :)
Do people do this unironically? Unfortunately the fastest and most convenient modes of travel are usually unaffected by parkour mods.
Namely Titania and Wukong bc they can traverse maps so much faster than anything else
6:15 - YES. As a guy who's been playing since 2015, and whonis also a (beginner) game designer, this speaks TRUTH.
Warframe devs really don't know what a tutorial is. They need to learn how to not only make it to explain all the thjngs, but also to make it seamless.
How do you make a tutorial that covers more than 100 hours of gameplay? You can't resume Warframe in a 10 minutes quest. This shit is deep.
@@Thenchresleth not 100 hours of gameplay, but 100 hours of searching warframe wiki. Sure.
@@TheDoomsdayzoner Even worst in this case, because the stuff is not in the game. There's is no geral tutorial to Warframe because It is not possible cover all the content in one shoot. And It is not a new player only problem. All Warframe content comes without manual, DE just release the crap and let the player base find out alone. Veterans don't cry about it because they already "know" the game. DE don't do tutorials at all. And this fucking game Just gets bigger and bigger, good luck teaching all Warframe content to someone new with just a "tutorial".
DE needs to learn what a tutorial is before anything else.
@@Thenchresleth not worse. Listen up pal, that sheet of text is cute, really.
But as a guy who was playing since 2015 AND teaching newbies, I am gonna tell you a few things:
1. Proper turorial on trading/crafting is a must. Alot of people are trying to sell crafted items, which is obviously impossible.
2. Complete revamp of a Codex is a must, to prevent players from needing to constantly dive into the wiki. We got a wiki at home. Especially about mods/arcanes.
3. Proper disclosure of things in tutorials and tooltips will solve alot of confusion. We need to give the player an explanation on why they should do X, and why they shouldn't.
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The story is insane , But gonna be honest , had to watch a few lore video to understand it all. When you know the story , its makes the game so much better.