Yea I had the exact same issues with clamping to the bass drum and it folding up.. And had the same gig worries BUT now I'm used to it I've had no issues recently.. It's such a smooth pedal I love it😀
An actual review. Thank you. Worth pointing out that there's now a cheaper perfect balance pedal without the folding mechanism. It's a no-brainer to buy that. The folding is a total novelty.
I recently bought one of these. I absolutely love the way it feels, by design it’s incredibly direct and responsive. I also really like how light and compact it is. I often use public transport for gigs and regularly play house kits, using my snare, cymbals, snare and pedal. The portability of this pedal is incredible considering how solid it feels despite being foldable. My only complaints are that the take down button can be a bit temperamental,, and the subsequent mechanism to clamp it to the kick is (in true Sonor fashion) over engineered, and cleverer than it needs to be
I bought the standard version of this pedal, without the take down mechanism. There is a snare/kick pedal knapsack out there that deals with any pedal, in its own pocket below the snare pocket. I take transit too and seeing as how drummers bring their own snares, it makes sense that a company made a knapsack for pedal and snare. Plus, the standard version will clamp onto ANY bass drum hoop, which is essential when playing backline gear, rather than fidgeting with this model and being on your knees way longer than need be.
@@Indoman_71 to be honest, having used it much more since my initial comment, the takedown mechanism is actually great, I think it just needed some breaking in. It easily clamps onto any kick with normal rims (also, it already comes with a nice carry case). Also, because it folds up so small, if I’m using a minimal cymbal setup i.e. busking or jazz, I can literally throw it into my Pro-racket cymbal backpack and get on the train to the gig. I wouldn’t do that with a full cymbal bag obviously, but if the bag is mostly empty it fits great and the case makes sure it doesn’t damage the cymbals. It’s the nicest pedal I’ve ever played, and the takedown function is genuinely awesome, it just needs a little love haha.
@@08mlascelles I'm glad that's worked for you. I did a lot of research on this pedal in regards to reviews, comments and the like and found the majority to go against the grain of this folding mechanism. I'm surprised you 've found a way to even get it to adjust to other hoops as I know you need that other key to access the other feature that adjusts the clamping mechanism. I've fidgeted with one before and couldn't get it to work properly so I guess you got a really good pedal and not one that is defective. I know personally if I get that snare/pedal combo backpack, mine will fit fine and be on my back because my snare will be too. Good to know you haven't had problems with it like so many others. 😊
@@Indoman_71 I mean, it’s incredibly simple. I too looked at many reviews, most of which were positive so I’m not entirely sure where you were looking. As someone with a lot of hands on experience with it, I can’t recommend highly enough.
@@08mlascelles I'm only assuming Sonor has improved the model because a lot of reviews just like the video above say its a good stand alone pedal for your kick and thus not needing to adjust to other drums. I searched out the drum blogs and I guess the initial models were flawed. So you don't have any problems connecting to other hoops on the fly? I understand that once you calibrate it specifically for your kick then it is fine but more time needs to be spent calibrating it for other kicks.
It's a nice Sonor pedal. But still has issues. I found the hinge very noisy. I had to put some 3 & 1 oil to quite it down. Also the main post has waggle to it. It totally doesn't lock in place. The cheap foam in the spring I replaced with felt. I had to oil the metal to metal contact points of the spring as well. Sonor could have done better for the cost of this pedal.
I run Pearl Eliminators, chain drives for last 18 years (also hi-hat stand) but best pedal ever used was Axis Longboards, those made me play like Peart on a bad day.! Amazing, so light, fast reaction because being super light.! But at $450 (25 years ago) broke-ass back then, but now $700.! But the Sonor is nice as well, very easy, it’s smooth Jazz FM..!
Really accurate review. I have the Jojo pedal, a single DW5000 and a double Iron Cobra. The Jojo is the one I prefer in terms of playing and feel, but the built quality is plain awful. My spring broke and contrary to you, the hinge was not tight enough so I had to fix it with gaffer tape : it was making clicking noise, unacceptable for recording... Also the clamp system is far from being reliable...such a shame cuz when it works it's a real pleasure to play with it.
I see this technique a lot, where people play bass by stomping the pedal, leaving the beater on the head until they raise their foot for the next stroke. That muffles the sound of the drum drastically. It might not be noticeable to some since people usually don't want bass drums to resonate very much, but you'd never play a snare or Tom drum with just a dead stroke that the tip didn't rebound (or at least not as a general technique), so why do that on the bass drum?
Definitely some of both - burying the beater is an actual technique depending on the style your playing; but obviously this is a bit of a side effect of learning on your own, you can just start playing a certain way and be used to that, not realizing what you may be missing. The other side of this is that, in a lot of metal, it just doesn't matter because you aren't going to be able to hear that level of 'texture'. Speed, timing, & power(...or not, with triggers, lol) are what matters, and burying the beater doesn't lol. "It depends..."
Thanks for pointing out the issues you experienced and experience with the pedal. For nearly 3 large, I just don't want to take the chance. I would absolutely have to be able to demo one for a minute before spending my money. My Tama Speed Cobra is a good pedal for now, I suppose? Best wishes my friend. You did good.
Cheers Siros as always great review. Let me know what do you think about the lowboy beaters.I´ve seen you are using this beater. At the moment I am using the tama wood beater sinnce almost a year ago. Can you tell me the difference? Thanks and keep on going ! :D
yees! great review! I'm glad you talked about your experience with the pedal and not about the features on it. I'm still getting used to mine, I think it's important to spend some quality time with this pedal and then decide whether you like it or not, or maybe just for certain gigs... www.patrickbuzo.com/
I think the fundamental issue with it is the over engineering. This happens to many fancy German cars as well. German engineers engineer too much..... You get the thrill of witnessing something awesome when a complex mechanism works, but have to put up with it when most of the time it doesn't work, lol. But hey, after gathering some feedback from the consumers, hopefully they will address the issues and make the perfect balance pedal being perfect not just for the balance.
Tama iron cobras Or speed cobras destroy any pedal for my feet personally. Didn’t like this sonor pedal at all. Even a lot of sonor artists don’t play sonor pedals. Chris Coleman plays DW pedals and Gavin Harrison plays the tama speed cobras and I’m sure there are others. But hey everyone is different so u just gotta find what pedal works for u personally. I’ve tried pearl pedals, tried direct drive pedals, sonor, and my last pedal was a DW 9002 but couldn’t find the perfect setting for me personally and had a lot of breakage problems with the DW and ended up selling it and just bought the new updated tama iron cobra double pedals and tama speed cobra double pedals and both those pedals are the perfect pedals for my feet. Just the feeling and throw and power you get yet still have the dynamics out of tama pedals is just perfect for me.
You're free to make your own scripted videos. I like to bring things up as I go - it's also a learning process which I happen to enjoy. Helps me become a better speaker. Cheers!
Sounds like an awesome pedal but no matter what other pedals i try, i still always go back to my Pearl Eliminators, hands down my favourite pedal.
Sakima Sahara-Khan yep. The pearl pedal is so good...right out of the box. I haven't tried all the cams and adjustment possibilities yet.
this pedal is the best i have ever played
Yea I had the exact same issues with clamping to the bass drum and it folding up.. And had the same gig worries BUT now I'm used to it I've had no issues recently.. It's such a smooth pedal I love it😀
An actual review. Thank you. Worth pointing out that there's now a cheaper perfect balance pedal without the folding mechanism. It's a no-brainer to buy that. The folding is a total novelty.
I recently bought one of these. I absolutely love the way it feels, by design it’s incredibly direct and responsive. I also really like how light and compact it is. I often use public transport for gigs and regularly play house kits, using my snare, cymbals, snare and pedal. The portability of this pedal is incredible considering how solid it feels despite being foldable. My only complaints are that the take down button can be a bit temperamental,, and the subsequent mechanism to clamp it to the kick is (in true Sonor fashion) over engineered, and cleverer than it needs to be
I bought the standard version of this pedal, without the take down mechanism. There is a snare/kick pedal knapsack out there that deals with any pedal, in its own pocket below the snare pocket. I take transit too and seeing as how drummers bring their own snares, it makes sense that a company made a knapsack for pedal and snare. Plus, the standard version will clamp onto ANY bass drum hoop, which is essential when playing backline gear, rather than fidgeting with this model and being on your knees way longer than need be.
@@Indoman_71 to be honest, having used it much more since my initial comment, the takedown mechanism is actually great, I think it just needed some breaking in. It easily clamps onto any kick with normal rims (also, it already comes with a nice carry case). Also, because it folds up so small, if I’m using a minimal cymbal setup i.e. busking or jazz, I can literally throw it into my Pro-racket cymbal backpack and get on the train to the gig. I wouldn’t do that with a full cymbal bag obviously, but if the bag is mostly empty it fits great and the case makes sure it doesn’t damage the cymbals. It’s the nicest pedal I’ve ever played, and the takedown function is genuinely awesome, it just needs a little love haha.
@@08mlascelles I'm glad that's worked for you. I did a lot of research on this pedal in regards to reviews, comments and the like and found the majority to go against the grain of this folding mechanism. I'm surprised you 've found a way to even get it to adjust to other hoops as I know you need that other key to access the other feature that adjusts the clamping mechanism. I've fidgeted with one before and couldn't get it to work properly so I guess you got a really good pedal and not one that is defective. I know personally if I get that snare/pedal combo backpack, mine will fit fine and be on my back because my snare will be too. Good to know you haven't had problems with it like so many others. 😊
@@Indoman_71 I mean, it’s incredibly simple. I too looked at many reviews, most of which were positive so I’m not entirely sure where you were looking. As someone with a lot of hands on experience with it, I can’t recommend highly enough.
@@08mlascelles I'm only assuming Sonor has improved the model because a lot of reviews just like the video above say its a good stand alone pedal for your kick and thus not needing to adjust to other drums. I searched out the drum blogs and I guess the initial models were flawed. So you don't have any problems connecting to other hoops on the fly? I understand that once you calibrate it specifically for your kick then it is fine but more time needs to be spent calibrating it for other kicks.
It's a nice Sonor pedal. But still has issues. I found the hinge very noisy. I had to put some 3 & 1 oil to quite it down. Also the main post has waggle to it. It totally doesn't lock in place. The cheap foam in the spring I replaced with felt. I had to oil the metal to metal contact points of the spring as well. Sonor could have done better for the cost of this pedal.
I run Pearl Eliminators, chain drives for last 18 years (also hi-hat stand) but best pedal ever used was Axis Longboards, those made me play like Peart on a bad day.! Amazing, so light, fast reaction because being super light.! But at $450 (25 years ago) broke-ass back then, but now $700.! But the Sonor is nice as well, very easy, it’s smooth Jazz FM..!
Really accurate review. I have the Jojo pedal, a single DW5000 and a double Iron Cobra. The Jojo is the one I prefer in terms of playing and feel, but the built quality is plain awful. My spring broke and contrary to you, the hinge was not tight enough so I had to fix it with gaffer tape : it was making clicking noise, unacceptable for recording... Also the clamp system is far from being reliable...such a shame cuz when it works it's a real pleasure to play with it.
Awesome review! Perhaps I'll wait for a newer version in this case and stick to my axis for now haha. Cheers Siros!
I see this technique a lot, where people play bass by stomping the pedal, leaving the beater on the head until they raise their foot for the next stroke. That muffles the sound of the drum drastically. It might not be noticeable to some since people usually don't want bass drums to resonate very much, but you'd never play a snare or Tom drum with just a dead stroke that the tip didn't rebound (or at least not as a general technique), so why do that on the bass drum?
mmmbetter55 maybe because people like that sound?
sneakerjoe23 maybe, but I suspect it's because they pay less attention to their foot technique than their hands
Definitely some of both - burying the beater is an actual technique depending on the style your playing; but obviously this is a bit of a side effect of learning on your own, you can just start playing a certain way and be used to that, not realizing what you may be missing.
The other side of this is that, in a lot of metal, it just doesn't matter because you aren't going to be able to hear that level of 'texture'. Speed, timing, & power(...or not, with triggers, lol) are what matters, and burying the beater doesn't lol.
"It depends..."
Thanks for pointing out the issues you experienced and experience with the pedal. For nearly 3 large, I just don't want to take the chance. I would absolutely have to be able to demo one for a minute before spending my money. My Tama Speed Cobra is a good pedal for now, I suppose? Best wishes my friend. You did good.
I am going to do the same. Stick to my speed cobra.
Seems like a good pedal, but I just don't think I could budge on giving up my classic DWA TD-4 5000 double pedal. I love that thing to death haha.
I'll stick with my Falcon double pedals. Great feel
Great video man!
Have you thought of making a video about all of your snare drums?
I think that would be an interesting video.
Definitely planning to make that at some point!
Best legit review I’ve seen so far
Cheers Siros as always great review. Let me know what do you think about the lowboy beaters.I´ve seen you are using this beater. At the moment I am using the tama wood beater sinnce almost a year ago. Can you tell me the difference? Thanks and keep on going ! :D
I'm loving the lowboy beater! Its heavier than the tama wood beater, which I used before, and has a fatter smack to it, with more body in the sound.
SirosVaziriDrums well this is exactly what I am looking for man 💪😎👍
I must say that mine collapsed at least 4 times during gigs, people thought that the stopping mid way through the first song was part of the show 😂
I had the same, the store replaced it for me, and had the same issue with the replacement.
I still like my pearl demonater. Good pedal though
Siros gettin THICC
yees! great review! I'm glad you talked about your experience with the pedal and not about the features on it.
I'm still getting used to mine, I think it's important to spend some quality time with this pedal and then decide whether you like it or not, or maybe just for certain gigs...
www.patrickbuzo.com/
I think the fundamental issue with it is the over engineering. This happens to many fancy German cars as well. German engineers engineer too much..... You get the thrill of witnessing something awesome when a complex mechanism works, but have to put up with it when most of the time it doesn't work, lol. But hey, after gathering some feedback from the consumers, hopefully they will address the issues and make the perfect balance pedal being perfect not just for the balance.
I was about to get one, because I love how it folds up, but your review review to stay away from this pedal
Tama iron cobras Or speed cobras destroy any pedal for my feet personally. Didn’t like this sonor pedal at all. Even a lot of sonor artists don’t play sonor pedals. Chris Coleman plays DW pedals and Gavin Harrison plays the tama speed cobras and I’m sure there are others. But hey everyone is different so u just gotta find what pedal works for u personally. I’ve tried pearl pedals, tried direct drive pedals, sonor, and my last pedal was a DW 9002 but couldn’t find the perfect setting for me personally and had a lot of breakage problems with the DW and ended up selling it and just bought the new updated tama iron cobra double pedals and tama speed cobra double pedals and both those pedals are the perfect pedals for my feet. Just the feeling and throw and power you get yet still have the dynamics out of tama pedals is just perfect for me.
Nice shoes😂😂
Too much talk and not enough action.
This video could've been 2 minutes long, maybe prepare a script rather than meandering your way through it repeating yourself
You're free to make your own scripted videos. I like to bring things up as I go - it's also a learning process which I happen to enjoy. Helps me become a better speaker. Cheers!