Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understood it, you can learn any Spell you have a Spellslot for aka "any Spell you can cast". As the Multiclass-Tablot for that is pretty clear, you do not really miss out anything in terms of "High Level Spells", because as Divination Wizzard(2)/Tepest Cleric(3) you can cast/get Level 3-Spells. The only thing that "slows down Progression" is in the Abilitys - which are often not so important than the ones you gain. And, I know, too much Multiclassing, Abserd Chars, etc. This is just for the Numbers Crunch. So.... *inhales deeply and theatralicly overdramatic* ...seriously, 2 D20 prerolled for free distribution (even for Rolls done by the Enemy in LoS) are saying "Take me now and here!" more directly than any Fanfiction-Lolita could - and also access to Wizzard Spells which you can learn as you like and choose Intmod+2 from - so at least 3. This literally allows you eventually an "Auto Sucess" on Spells that have to roll to hit or that allow saving throws - and that forces the Legendarys out of them as fuck. Also, and this is a huge backbone to my Multiclass-Caster-Builds, as you take the Class you want the higher Spell from at the Time you could get it, In our former Case I would start off as Cleric for Guiding Bolt along some Heal, then Wizzard as there is nothing so great for second Level Cleric to take as well what we do not already have - because our Spellslots grow for both. Now - even when you skill only Sorcerer/Druid in eaqual Turns you get acess to the higher Cleric Spells as well automatically and can learn any spell you could cast for Wizzard - even the 9th Level Spells (although, a 9th-Level-Spellscroll is quite.....expensive.....). On the other Hand, if you choose to take Wizzard on the 17th Level onwards, you can pick the "new Spells" all from the 9th-Level if you like. At least, if I am right about this and "There is nothing in the Rules against it". So, have fun backstabbing with a Siege Weapon.
@@Rabijeel you want to reread the spell casting multi-class rules and not just look at the chart. In you example Divination Wizzard(2)/Tepest Cleric(3) you can prepare you wizard spells as a 2nd level wizard and your cleric spells as a 3rd level cleric. So you do still have 3rd level spell slots but can only use those for up-casting the spells you know. Here is the relevant part of the multi=class spell casting rules. Spells Known and Prepared. You determine what spells you know and can prepare for each class individually, as if you were a single-classed member of that class. If you are a ranger 4/wizard 3, for example, you know three 1st-level ranger spells based on your levels in the ranger class. As 3rd-level wizard, you know three wizard cantrips, and your spellbook contains ten wizard spells, two of which (the two you gained when you reached 3rd level as a wizard) can be 2nd-level spells. If your Intelligence is 16, you can prepare six wizard spells from your spellbook. Each spell you know and prepare is associated with one of your classes, and you use the spellcasting ability of that class when you cast the spell. Similarly, a spellcasting focus, such as a holy symbol, can be used only for the spells from the class associated with that focus.th-cam.com/video/fZPWCEeWq_U/w-d-xo.html
Heyyy I love your videos (my favorite is the Fey wanderer hands down, the flavor is *muah*) Could you make a College of Creation bard as your next Optimized DPR character? I think there are a lot of fun ways to use the features of dancing object :D
I typically shy away from clerics (I don't much care for divine flavor or being in service to a god instead of in service to myself) but light clerics were always tempting. I love the spin you put on them!
As a non religious Cleric, I like the idea of those who draw their power from the world around them. Similar to druid of course, but you could be a Cleric who gets power from a concept rather than a being. Death Clerics drawing their power from Death and Life, Light Drawing from the Sun itself, Nature drawing from Nature around them. I also don't like the idea of serving a God who is controlled by the DM, so I'd personally make my diety either a concept or some sort of power, or just make then mysterious and unknown enough that while you gain power from them, they don't talk or really interact with you dont order you around or anything. My best example of this is the books by Brandon Sanderson. They all link up together, being an overarching story of a group that killed a God, and split its power into 12 shards. They then went off to other worlds where many were worshiped as the gods of those worlds, yet there are still those that instead worship a God of the Beyond, unknown and not built upon but believed the be the shadow of the original being that was killed and split. Let's you do your own think and not be ordered around while still enjoying a cleric
Apologies if this has already been brought up, but it should be noted that light cleric only has access to medium armor on its own. This doesn't matter for your build, which does have heavy armor proficiency because you start fighter, but your various comments about light clerics and heavy armor aren't generally true. That said, love the build as always, and keep up the good work!
came here to mention this, glad I did a search first. It hurts not having heavy armor by default, but it also helps in that you don't fall into the pit trap of dumping dex, so your initiative tends to be better.
I think on burst damage builds, particularly aoe focussed ones like this one, you should have a bit of a focus somewhere in the build on initiative. When playing an aoe focussed build, going first can mean more damage because you can hit more enemies before they move around, stopping them spreading out or getting in close with allies you don't want to hit. Because of that considering harengon as a race or taking the alert feat somewhere should be a consideration going forward I think.
If the DM allows, Gift of Alacrity via Fey Touched works very nicely to replace Alert. Average 4.5 bonus to Initiative AND Misty Step AND +1 Wisdom? Yes please.
@@TheMinions25 In that case for a build like this I'd also take another half feat, like resilient wisdom in this case to have two major saving throws accounted for with the same feat cost (fey touched and resilient) as alert (with a +2 wisdom)
IF you are taking the wizard levels early-ish there is no need. Personally the two levels of fighter are meh, and I would take those wizard levels instead.
Hey Colby, weird challenge/puzzle you may enjoy: design a 4 player party to do the highest DPR/highest burst. Would be cool to see how you tackle the teamwork aspects given total control
You honestly probably just make 4 cheesegrater characters right, 4 cleric druids with thorn whip and telekinesis, if everyone has spirits up and you can push an enemy out and pull them back in they are taking the spirit damage 8 times per round and 4 times during the start of their round.
33:00 I really love this idea of mixing Wizard in. This character would be unique in their personal ability to use their own knowledge of magic to change a spell that's coming from a god! The narrative implications are so cool!
Ya. The 2 level dip just to say to your allies 'fine, I guess I'll keep you out of the line of fire' after the 5th fireball singes the Barbarian seems ... necessary to the build.
@@vinspad3 even better. Use it prosthelytize. "Behold! The God of light wishes to smite you down! But I have spared you, and marked you for greatness!! Follow me now, and I shall lead you to the path of enlightenment!!"
Love this build. Also gotta love the wholesomeness of the occasional family. Though the angry child mob that is summoned by the mention of silvery barbs is my favorite.
Easily my favourite character subclass. Great to have a level 1 survival ability. Best level 2 aoe in the game by a long way and it saves you spell slots when you have so few of them especially if your party uses short rests. Fireball and spirit guardians at level 5. 2nd use of Radiance of the Dawn per short rest at level 6. Since most games I have played don’t last into high levels, Light Cleric is fantastic during my most played levels. Also it only needs good wisdom and constitution and 14 dexterity, and those are the best abilities for most saving throws needed. It also isn’t feat hungry resilient constitution, Warcaster and either straight wisdom or wisdom half feats of telekinetic and fey touched.
They don't. I was thinking the same thing and then he started as Fighter. Problem solved. Edit: Might of got confused with Life Domain which does get Heavy Armor prof.
How about a 1 level dip into daolock, grab crusher as well, and use spiritual weapon to push people into the spirit guradians radius? That should work Clerics just are great damage dealers in general. Spirit guardians + spiritual weapon + toll the dead/sacred flame(with the potent spellcasting feature) is just a ton of consistent dpr with barely any resources expended.
Colby, loving the vid so far, light domain is my favourite subclass for cleric :D Can I suggest a build revolving around the Double Bladed Scimitar? It's a strong item with it's own built in Polearm Master which is pretty cool
Aw, I thought this one for sure would have the metal intro. a holy ultimate blaster? sounds metal to me. Anyways, great video and build as always! Thanks for welcoming us character lovers home!
All these Steinhardt's ads are great, but all they do is remind me how long I have to wait to get my hands on it :< I pledged to the kickstarter so I could give all the cool physical stuff to my girlfriend for her birthday - which was today :> - before realising it was gonna release months later. I guess it's gonna be her Christmas present, lmao.
Dawwwww when the exit commentary is sweeter than the intro commentary 🥹. Love the build! I’d think fire spirit druid would be a really neat option with light cleric. Can’t wait to see you play it!
Without going too heavily in the math here (and please, correct me if I am wrong! I don't intend this as a flex, just maybe a different understanding :D), I believe the !AVERAGE! damage gain of Elemental Adept (Fire) letting you change 1's into 2's effectively changes the possible damage range of a 3rd level Fireball from 8-48 to 16-48, thus increasing the average damage from 28 to 32. While it is niche and admittedly minimal, doubling the damage floor will definitely average out to be more than just a 1 damage on average increase as per the video. It needs a buff for sure, but I think the 1's to 2's aspect of Elemental Adept is unfairly hated on by the community, as it is essentially a super version of the age old "2d6 is always better than 1d12, so always pick greatsword/maul over greataxe" optimization aspect. Great video, as always, and I look forward to whatever your future ideas are. Hopefully my understanding of the information makes this build even MORE appealing to anyone interested in trying it at their tables!
Also crazy that this beat out the Evoker when you consider the Evoker was almost killing themselves with Overchannel. That hybrid version at the end sounds dope though! Is Wildfire Druid and/or a fire based controller on your list? Thanks regardless, love the vids
This is probably my my favourite build yet. I've avoided Light cleric mainly because I thought it got a bad rap compared to tempest cleric. No heave armor no martial weapon and a change divinity that scales poorly and uses an action. But this is amazing it makes up for all of that it's an amazing versatile Blaster and unlike a blaster wizard you don't die if someone sneezes in your Direction. One of the best part is that the race is asthma. It's so difficult not to pick variant human or custom lineage because that free feat is just so versatile but Aasimar is just such a great choice for this because it's brilliantly thematic and has fantastic synergy. Definitely roling this in my next game.
I love your content! I’ve been thinking of a build that has a Echo knight fighter and warlock for multidirectional forced movement from all of the places the echo can be. I would love to see something like that on a build!
Hey Colby, great build! I’m super curious to see you do a build that’s based on Tenser’s Transformation. I’ve been theorycrafting an arcane trickster/bladesinger, but I’d love to see you take a crack at it. Have a great day!
Treantm0nks bIadesinger vide0 says that tensers transf0rmati0n is a dmg I0ss any way u sIice it. u sh0uId give it a gander (yes my Iapt0s keyb0ard is n0t great)
It's a great spell for a bladesinger. Yes, nothing can compare to animate objects and so forth if you just look at damage numbers, but if your fantasy is your character wielding weapons with magic, it's great. The temporary hp is also massive, considering your AC while bladesinging
Hiya Coby, I just put this post onto the Reddit but thought I'd upload it here as well since I think you'd love the build (and name!): HIMARS ----------------------------> High(Elf) Mobility Artillery Rocket System: Ranger Hunter 11 / Fighter Samurai 3 I saw the Pack Tactics video on the Ranger Hunter and decided to have a proper look at the subclass. I feel like Volley is actually broken if used right - it costs no resources, and being able to exchange the 2/3 attacks Hunters has for no cost is very cheap, allowing one to hit anywhere from 4-16 (very huddled) enemies. As you can see, I've been making notes for some hours, and can't find anything better than this. Please let me know if there's anything I'm missing/overlooked. The best I can think of is: - Elf (not sure which type) for +2 DEX, +1 WIS - 3 levels Fighter, Archery Fighting Style and Samurai subclass for Fighting Spirit - X levels Ranger, Close Quarters Shooter Fighting Style - Sharpshooter at lvl 7 - Elven Accuracy at lvl 11 - Pick up 3rd lvl spell Flame Arrows at lvl 12 - FINALLY get Volley at lvl 14 At level 14 (3 Fighter, 11 Ranger) you would be able to shoot 2 volleys with advantage on every shot in one turn. Each shot would have "double" advantage, +4 to hit, and deal 1d8+1d6+14 (average 22 dmg) to every enemy, with an insanely high chance to hit. Let's assume your DM is nice enough to let you earn a +2 longbow by lvl 14. That's +6 to hit, double adv, and 24 dmg. Using Action Surge, you could do this twice in the first round, hitting up to 16 enemies for 48 dmg on your first turn of combat, only using 1 of 3 Fighting Spirits (and a whole bunch of arrows). This could be - hypothetically, in a world where you have every bad guy put in a giant bucket - 768 dmg on one turn, all for very little cost. You can then do the same Volley with "double" advantage for two more turns, adding on another possible Volley for 384 dmg on each round. It's insane to even talk about these numbers because it will literally never happen, but how much damage would we do to, say, 5 people in a 20ft diameter circle? That sounds much more reasonable. 24 x 5 = 120 dmg per Volley. 120 x 2 = 240 dmg for first turn. Followed by 120 dmg for the next two turns if they don't or cannot move. (Rangers can cast Spike Growth / Plant Growth, so use them! Or, have a chat about tactics with your local Mage!) That's a total of 480 dmg (96 dmg each) to 5 unlucky suckers in 3 turns... Pentakill? All of this is without upcasting Flame Arrows (god forbid). And, all of this can be done from 600ft thanks to Sharpshooter. Furthermore, if you got either the Dragon Wing Bow or Dragon Wrath Weapon, then it just gets really stupid really quick. I would love to see the maths for this but I am way too tired and need to go read a book because my eyes are starting to hurt. Thank you for listening, Your Local Min/Maxer P.S, I know Spike Growth is concentration. Drop the Flame Arrows depending on the situation as it is very beneficial to keep them together and SG might well do a lot more damage. P.P.S, If you did this up to lvl 17 I would reccommend Assassin Rogue for the last few levels just to get that disgusting critical hit, which works for every attack roll in the first Volley. (Yes, Sneak Attack would only work with the first target of Volley, but getting crits on each of these attacks would be nuts anyway.)
Omg I think I left a comment on your last video about me playing a homebrewed Sun Soul Monk. Named Lucy (short for Lucifer), an Aasimar born to a Dwarf and Half Elf. The Cleric and Warlock classes were taken, so Sun Soul Monk was left for me to take, so I stole the Cleric feature, and became a 1/3rd caster (with the DM's approval). Excited to roleplay her. Would post my fan art of her here if I could. I'm leaning into the shonen tropes
Love your videos! Please consider a revisit to the Barbearian build - suggestion, 3 Barbearian / X Cavalier fighter, shifter, hammer/shield and dueling style.
I'm told that on the rare occasions when a 40x20 column of damage actually lets you draw a straight line through enemies at multiple elevations without cooking your party's bladesinger in the process, Flame Strike will definitely make you feel pretty okay about yourself. As a fifth-level spell of My God Says Screw You In Particular, though -- which is what you probably want more often -- it's definitely lackluster.
Thank you for this 😀 I'm playing a female drow 9 lvl pure Light Domain Cleric (yeah, weird I know, but hey Eilistree have Light as a Divine Domain. 😄 ) and it is a very cool class. Just love it. 😀 As lvl 4 feat. I have chosen so far "Drow High Magic". I mean, "Detect Magic" at will and "Darkness" and "Levitate" once a day have saved my butt more than once. LVL8, I took +2 Wisdom (total 18, for the moment). Never thought of "Telekinetic" before for my progression; it is noted now. 😀
Awesome build!! Didn't expect a light cleric to be able to do this much aoe burst damage (hooray for action surge!) Cleric is so useful I am surprised you didn't mention killer spells like Silence that can completely and utterly shut down otherwise very dangerous spellcasters And the utility of having the ability to resurrect, to literally make food, and so much more Having access to your entire spell list is such a huge thing for clerics too
Not really... my gut tells me that most people who have seen those might feel like it's a bit of a cop-out for new content, but if demand gets high enough...
Love it! I've probably been one of those ranting on about Light Clerics. Been playing one for over a year now (Hill Dwarf), level 1 through to (currently) 12. So. Much. Fun. They are Frontline, Tank, Healer, Controller, Buffer, Debuffer, AoE, Single Target Obliteration, Multi Target spam, Melee, Spells, High AC, they can do it all. I HIGHLY recommend anyone having a play at one if given the chance, you wont regret it.
Hey Colby, do you mind sharing what kind of equipment you use for these videos? I love the set up and the tone you set, certainly makes you feel at home and I am glad to be here
@@DnDDeepDive I'd recommend you put a light source on yourself, because each time the video edit jumps, we can see the ambient light in the room change (I assume from a window), which drives your production quality down. Number one rule of film -- LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT!
Someone gotta clean up the chaff. A fireball aint too bad at removing a couple minions. I would keep multitarget and single target separate for QoL perhaps. Or like an asterisk to the ones dealing damage to multiple targets.
Hey Colby, I've been tossing around this idea after playing Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous. There is a Mythic path called Swarm-That-Walks, and the concept seems really cool. My idea to try to rebuild this was a swarmkeeper ranger with warlock levels. I've debated going Dao for a cheesegrater build, pushing enemies farther than ever before with the crusher feat. Flavor the swarm as sand and have your genie vessel be an hourglass. Ive debated the archfey warlock for just a stupid amount of fairies. I was hoping we could see your expertise in number crunching to see where this could go. Thanks bud!
Swarmkeeper works so well with all the Genie warlocks. Madrid ice Genie the Swarm is swirling snow or ice shards, or even mist if you are going more water style. The Efrit fire Genie the swarm can be swirling flames, ashes, fire flies, embers or smoke. For the lighting Genie, the swarm can be sparks or crackling electricity arching around you, or metal bits and shards if you go for the flavour of some sort of magnetic power. Personally, I'd love to get Spirit Guardians somehow as well, meaning your Warlock could just be a wee dip of Prof damage per 1 hit, if you added in Cleric
I was in an AL epic where one of the players used divine intervention to help solve a mystery, he succeeded and the DM used it to turn our partial success into failure because of the wording of the request. So I understand your concern about the lack of specificity and variable results of Divine Intervention.
It's funn how in 5e the best blaster is the cleric, the best archer is a human with a toy crossbow, and the wizard usually has the best AC in the party
I'm curious what the actual numbers are for doing Single Target vs AoE DPR. In Final Fantasy 14, the group doing AoE is more efficient until you're down to just one guy, despite AoE skills being lower damage.
Nice! Im currently playing a divine soul sorcerer, with an abyssal demon and a celestial up in his head, kind of a nice congruence with your last 2 builds (Shadow master and this one)
This is basically my build for playing Swain from league of legends. Necrotic shroud for the ult. Light cleric reflavored as ravens and lightning. 2 fighter/5 light cleric (for spirit guardians) 13 divine soul. 10/10/16/10/16/20 pick up telekinetic feat at some point. If you want the 14th level feature of divine soul, then drop second fighter level. I like action surge but it’s not necessary, just good for using the second action to take dodge action after your full setup is going (necrotic shroud, spirit guardians). Next turn faerie fire, or twin Guiding bolt, walk into enemies, spirit guardians and necrotic shroud. Bonus action try and pull with telekinetic, or push and walk in further. Action surge and dodge. Enjoy the mayhem.
The light clerics divine feature is really nice at those low levels when monsters rarely have a super con save and when other AoE is lacking. 2d10 is decent DMG when you first get it and I agree that while single target damage can be better, generally speaking it can also be an advantage to do 20 DMG to 3 enemies rather than doing 40 DMG to one. Especially when you got other single damage specialists. Had a glorious moment of swooshing away around 10 goblins with a fireball, something that otherwise would have posed a bit of a problem on a group with single target attackers ^^
yeah i hope you split the multi-target and single-target striker builds. it doesn't make hitting century marks as exciting when i know its to 3 targets. personally, i think this whole build is better done as a divine sorc with a fighter 2 dip. warding flare and it's upgrade is not a strong enough benefit to counter the sorc benefits such as empowered spell, transmute spell, careful spell, access to sorc spells and for that little dmg jump at level 6-8. Sorcs can have 4th level slots for upcasting at level 6 and can have 5th level slots at level 7-8 due to font of sorcery. i do agree though for an SG main, dipping stars 2 and dao 1 was a better choice if you wanted to do a wis based caster (light cleric). i'm sure though you can eventually fit in fighter 2 at latter levels though.
Thanks for the build! Your daughter's support for the channel is awesome 😊 But what happened to Torey? Haven't been able to follow the live play lately. Why won't she participate in season two?
My party has a light cleric as a primary blaster. He went Kobold so he could take Firebolt as a cantrip and benefit from elemental adept a little more. It seems to work really well.
Have you ever made a SorLock built around Hex + Hexblade's Curse + Bestow Curse (necrotic damage) + Scorching Ray? A magical machine gun single-target burst build? Lots of set-up, but still really interesting. I designed a Warforged that did this named Ronald Raygun. My DM wouldn't let me use him...
“For my blasty support light cleric, I’m going to start fighter, but I’m not going to use heavy armor or martial weapons. I’m also going to pick the aasimar thing that only works within 5 feet because goodness knows I’m not going to be trying to avoid dropping concentration on Bless, Spirit Guardians, or heck, even Faery Fire” Also by multiclassing you are hamstringing your light cleric more than most of your terrible multiclass builds because Radiance of Dawn is incredible at level 2-5 but falls off but you get Fireball at its most powerful. Multiclassing dilutes that power for…. Nothing? Why not Divine soul sorc for shield and con saves. It even fits thematically. Edit: the longer I listen the worse it gets.
My favorite burst damage cleric is the Tempest Domain Cleric. Level 4 take the Metamagic Adept feat so at level 6 you can quicken Call Lightning, then use your action to continue the spell. At level 9 you would be a 7th level Cleric and 2nd level fighter. Quicken Call Lightning, then use Action Surge to continue the spell effect 2 more times. Using a 4th level spell slot and the channel divinity to do max damage on one roll, you would deal 8d10 + 40 damage in a 15 by 15 foot square. You can probably hit 2, maybe even 3 enemies with all that damage.
How about taking a third level in Fighter for Eldritch Knight. Gives the same spellslots a cleric level would have given. But also 2 more Cantrips, and Shield, Sleep and Magic Missile, wich all don't care about our low INT score.
I am currently playing Temptest Cleric(1)/Evoker(3) In a way to give Evoker tankness and healing. While I only have first level healing spells but with full spell progression it doesn't seem to hurt that much. I am curious how you would build it.
People really do underestimate the power of Clerics. Some of the best sustained damage for a caster, but still good burst potential with the right builds. They aren't just healers. They are Harmacists.
Any chance you could make a few builds with sub classes that are more RP heavy and help optimize them for combat? I've wanted to play an inquisitive rogue forever, but I don't want to fall behind my crazy good min/maxing friends too much.
Great video. Looking at some Light Cleric ideas for a Strahd campaign. I had a question on your cleric/druid mix at the end. Did you just stick with non-metal armor? Getting up close enough for Spirit Guardians to work without a solid ac seems risky.
At the final war scene in Rise of Tiamat, I FINALLY got divine intervention to proc. I wished to resurrect the monk that had been disintegrated months before, but leveled up to the party’s current level. My DM didn’t go for it, to my dismay. It would have been perfect! That monk should have been there at the end with the rest of the party. Instead my god killed a bunch of enemy dragons, which was admittedly helpful.
I thought of something similar. I usually start with character story then I build. This character idea was a half dwarf and I wanted her to be a war cleric but the subclass is no good. I liked the light better but in her background though she was Noble birth she took part in violent games. Father was a dwarven War hero and human mother is just rich and into politics. To be simple I just chose the knight background (high born but experience with fighting). I was going to start 2 levels in fighter but I am reviewing your build. I like it. My dm/gm is cool with the half-dwarf he actually showed me acceptable stats etc. Now if he'll allow me to have Mordin as her God with the light subclass. Funny my only assmair is a battle mage. With Tashas you can adjust perks. I love that. I really like the traditional standards for races except for player characters. I mean you're a hero or anti-hero so you should be a cut above, different from the norm. Keep up the good work.
I have a challenge for you. Highest Sustained DPR out of just the first three manuals of D&D 5e. Can be boring, but certainly a challenge and probably going to be used by new players.
@@DnDDeepDive Well maybe they will in the future! It’s cool that they at least sort of know what your channel is about. I really like your channel! I’ve been watching for awhile now (>year?). Keep up the good work! I hope it stays fun for you for a long time.
I played an Aasimar Life Cleric based on the Archangel Michael. In the final battle of Descent into Avernus, I used the Divine Intervention feature and asked Tyr to guide my hand and help me smite the fiend. I rolled low enough for my request to be granted. My DM gave me advantage on my next attack and a maxed out Paladin Smite. I do not remember how much damage I dealt but it was a LOT.
Could you make a forge cleric/artificer build please? Mechanically I think it's odd but the idea of it sounds so cool. Like a dwarven iron man that worships Ultron
I know you did a sort of special agent 007 type build with rogue and armor artifister but would you consider an “ultimate thief” build with the same combo? Since you can get advantage on stealth checks. Would you make a build that’s more focused on utility with some decent damage in combat?
I will say that Flaming sphere isn't awful when you're not high enough level for Spirit Guardians, even with a Spiritual weapon out. The main use would be for battlefield control or once the melee characters all mash together you place your flaming sphere right behind your enemies. My party was once attacking a bandit hideout and behind the main room of the place was a door leading to a hallway, so I plopped the flaming sphere right at that door. I did get lucky with my rolls, My DM rolled to see if the bandits liked their friends well enough to run through a 5 foot sphere of fire and those that did failed their dex save and took almost full damage. But still, it can still be useful even if you don't move it.
I bet clerics can do better in any "magic" role than any other class, dps is broken just cause of spirit guardians, control is amazing depending on subclass, healing is of course the best in game. And maybe clerics can do better than most melee or tanks also. A party of 4 clerics is by far the most OP party you can make, with infinite healing, all tanky, huge damage output etc. Big fan of the class since my storm cleric destroyed tiamats campain.
Instead of elemental adept I would have taken metamagic adept there! You’d have just enough sorcery points to protect a friend or two on that nova round, basically a budget evocation wizard here
Hey Colby sorry not done with the video if you mention it later. Would the flame walker (sorry forgot the name the one that causes flame damage if you pass them.) Was that a multi target build?
help!! me dm is doing a campaign but he’s allowing thrown daggers to be considered ranged im thinking of doing custom lineage eleven accuracy into sharpshooter gonna be a rouge fighter combo but dont know how far i should take fighter or what subclasses to pick
I didnt use it in combat, i used divine intervention for RP, where my tempest cleric found out that her domain didnt come from bahamut, but rather the Chromatic dragon mark on her eye from Tiamat cultists made her god be Tiamat dragon of chaos XD
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Have you done an Inquisitive Rogue yet? Like an Investigator type character?
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Correct me if I am wrong, but as I understood it, you can learn any Spell you have a Spellslot for aka "any Spell you can cast".
As the Multiclass-Tablot for that is pretty clear, you do not really miss out anything in terms of "High Level Spells", because as Divination Wizzard(2)/Tepest Cleric(3) you can cast/get Level 3-Spells. The only thing that "slows down Progression" is in the Abilitys - which are often not so important than the ones you gain.
And, I know, too much Multiclassing, Abserd Chars, etc. This is just for the Numbers Crunch.
So.... *inhales deeply and theatralicly overdramatic*
...seriously, 2 D20 prerolled for free distribution (even for Rolls done by the Enemy in LoS) are saying "Take me now and here!" more directly than any Fanfiction-Lolita could - and also access to Wizzard Spells which you can learn as you like and choose Intmod+2 from - so at least 3.
This literally allows you eventually an "Auto Sucess" on Spells that have to roll to hit or that allow saving throws - and that forces the Legendarys out of them as fuck.
Also, and this is a huge backbone to my Multiclass-Caster-Builds, as you take the Class you want the higher Spell from at the Time you could get it,
In our former Case I would start off as Cleric for Guiding Bolt along some Heal, then Wizzard as there is nothing so great for second Level Cleric to take as well what we do not already have - because our Spellslots grow for both.
Now - even when you skill only Sorcerer/Druid in eaqual Turns you get acess to the higher Cleric Spells as well automatically and can learn any spell you could cast for Wizzard - even the 9th Level Spells (although, a 9th-Level-Spellscroll is quite.....expensive.....).
On the other Hand, if you choose to take Wizzard on the 17th Level onwards, you can pick the "new Spells" all from the 9th-Level if you like.
At least, if I am right about this and "There is nothing in the Rules against it".
So, have fun backstabbing with a Siege Weapon.
@@Rabijeel you want to reread the spell casting multi-class rules and not just look at the chart. In you example Divination Wizzard(2)/Tepest Cleric(3) you can prepare you wizard spells as a 2nd level wizard and your cleric spells as a 3rd level cleric. So you do still have 3rd level spell slots but can only use those for up-casting the spells you know. Here is the relevant part of the multi=class spell casting rules.
Spells Known and Prepared. You determine what spells you know and can prepare for each class individually, as if you were a single-classed member of that class. If you are a ranger 4/wizard 3, for example, you know three 1st-level ranger spells based on your levels in the ranger class. As 3rd-level wizard, you know three wizard cantrips, and your spellbook contains ten wizard spells, two of which (the two you gained when you reached 3rd level as a wizard) can be 2nd-level spells. If your Intelligence is 16, you can prepare six wizard spells from your spellbook.
Each spell you know and prepare is associated with one of your classes, and you use the spellcasting ability of that class when you cast the spell. Similarly, a spellcasting focus, such as a holy symbol, can be used only for the spells from the class associated with that focus.th-cam.com/video/fZPWCEeWq_U/w-d-xo.html
The daughter and her picture were so wholesome!
:)
I know I should probably like all of these videos to help out, but the daughter and picture actually made me do it.
@@ProtoFire8 ha ha - thanks!
Missed opportunity to call this the “Holy Hand Grenade” but love the build!! Great job as always.
NI!
Nice
I _will_ be calling this build the holy hand grenade
1... 2... 5!
5 is right out!
When you need to fill frontline, support, and aoe damage, there's nothing better than Light Cleric.
Level 1:(see above) [fighter 1, race & fighting-style]
Level 2:(see above) [cleric 1 & sub-class]
Level 3:(@17:26) [cleric 2]
Level 4:(@18:36) [cleric 3]
Level 5:(@19:34) [cleric 4 & ASI]
Level 6:(@20:43) [cleric 5]
Level 7:(see above) [fighter 2]
Level 8:(@28:15) [cleric 6]
Level 9:(@29:05) [cleric 7]
Level 10:(see above) [cleric 8 & ASI]
Level 11:(@34:12) [cleric 9]
Level 12:(@35:22) [cleric 10]
Level 13:(@36:19) [cleric 11]
Level 14:(see above) [cleric 12 & ASI]
Level 15:(@39:04) [cleric 13]
Level 16:(@39:57) [cleric 14]
Level 17:(@40:17) [cleric 15]
Not all heroes wear capes.
You doin’ the divine soul’s work.
Fun fact my first 5e character was a light cleric ^^ Grabbing the popcorn for this video now
Same. And it's a Tortle with 19 AC at level 1, no Dex or Str required. :)
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The light domain cleric description is a long-winded way of saying "I cast fireball"
lol
My cleric dreams are coming true before my eyes! Thank you for creating a build around the core attributes of the cleric.
Heyyy
I love your videos (my favorite is the Fey wanderer hands down, the flavor is *muah*)
Could you make a College of Creation bard as your next Optimized DPR character? I think there are a lot of fun ways to use the features of dancing object :D
On the to do list!
Also, if you don't know, treantmonk has a video on creation bard that is really good. It's princess themed lol
I typically shy away from clerics (I don't much care for divine flavor or being in service to a god instead of in service to myself) but light clerics were always tempting. I love the spin you put on them!
As a non religious Cleric, I like the idea of those who draw their power from the world around them. Similar to druid of course, but you could be a Cleric who gets power from a concept rather than a being. Death Clerics drawing their power from Death and Life, Light Drawing from the Sun itself, Nature drawing from Nature around them.
I also don't like the idea of serving a God who is controlled by the DM, so I'd personally make my diety either a concept or some sort of power, or just make then mysterious and unknown enough that while you gain power from them, they don't talk or really interact with you dont order you around or anything.
My best example of this is the books by Brandon Sanderson. They all link up together, being an overarching story of a group that killed a God, and split its power into 12 shards. They then went off to other worlds where many were worshiped as the gods of those worlds, yet there are still those that instead worship a God of the Beyond, unknown and not built upon but believed the be the shadow of the original being that was killed and split.
Let's you do your own think and not be ordered around while still enjoying a cleric
Apologies if this has already been brought up, but it should be noted that light cleric only has access to medium armor on its own. This doesn't matter for your build, which does have heavy armor proficiency because you start fighter, but your various comments about light clerics and heavy armor aren't generally true. That said, love the build as always, and keep up the good work!
Truth!
came here to mention this, glad I did a search first. It hurts not having heavy armor by default, but it also helps in that you don't fall into the pit trap of dumping dex, so your initiative tends to be better.
I think on burst damage builds, particularly aoe focussed ones like this one, you should have a bit of a focus somewhere in the build on initiative.
When playing an aoe focussed build, going first can mean more damage because you can hit more enemies before they move around, stopping them spreading out or getting in close with allies you don't want to hit.
Because of that considering harengon as a race or taking the alert feat somewhere should be a consideration going forward I think.
If the DM allows, Gift of Alacrity via Fey Touched works very nicely to replace Alert.
Average 4.5 bonus to Initiative AND Misty Step AND +1 Wisdom? Yes please.
@@TheMinions25 In that case for a build like this I'd also take another half feat, like resilient wisdom in this case to have two major saving throws accounted for with the same feat cost (fey touched and resilient) as alert (with a +2 wisdom)
IF you are taking the wizard levels early-ish there is no need. Personally the two levels of fighter are meh, and I would take those wizard levels instead.
Also Guidance technically works on initiative rolls, so blaster Clerics, Divine Soul Sorcerers and Tomelocks might get their worth out of it!
@@silasrobertshaw8122
War Magic Wizard 2 is a great dip, might be my ever favourite.
Hey Colby, weird challenge/puzzle you may enjoy: design a 4 player party to do the highest DPR/highest burst. Would be cool to see how you tackle the teamwork aspects given total control
Light/Tempest Cleric, Fiend Warlock, Evocation Wizard, and probably Wildfire Druid. There you go.
I also want to see this.
@@MadnessOpus I thought the scout/scribes/tempest strides of ashardalan was one of the top damage dealers
You honestly probably just make 4 cheesegrater characters right, 4 cleric druids with thorn whip and telekinesis, if everyone has spirits up and you can push an enemy out and pull them back in they are taking the spirit damage 8 times per round and 4 times during the start of their round.
33:00 I really love this idea of mixing Wizard in. This character would be unique in their personal ability to use their own knowledge of magic to change a spell that's coming from a god! The narrative implications are so cool!
Ya. The 2 level dip just to say to your allies 'fine, I guess I'll keep you out of the line of fire' after the 5th fireball singes the Barbarian seems ... necessary to the build.
@@vinspad3 even better. Use it prosthelytize. "Behold! The God of light wishes to smite you down! But I have spared you, and marked you for greatness!! Follow me now, and I shall lead you to the path of enlightenment!!"
@@givemeanaxe That is perfect. Build complete.
Love this build. Also gotta love the wholesomeness of the occasional family. Though the angry child mob that is summoned by the mention of silvery barbs is my favorite.
Easily my favourite character subclass. Great to have a level 1 survival ability. Best level 2 aoe in the game by a long way and it saves you spell slots when you have so few of them especially if your party uses short rests. Fireball and spirit guardians at level 5. 2nd use of Radiance of the Dawn per short rest at level 6. Since most games I have played don’t last into high levels, Light Cleric is fantastic during my most played levels. Also it only needs good wisdom and constitution and 14 dexterity, and those are the best abilities for most saving throws needed. It also isn’t feat hungry resilient constitution, Warcaster and either straight wisdom or wisdom half feats of telekinetic and fey touched.
You gotta do an ultimate d4 build! D4 damage spells and weapons everywhere!!!
Learned because of my work’s craptastic internet, if you pause at 29:43 Colby looks drunk/high/out of it.
ha ha!
I don't think Light Clerics get Heavy Armor...
They don't. I was thinking the same thing and then he started as Fighter. Problem solved.
Edit: Might of got confused with Life Domain which does get Heavy Armor prof.
@@MrBoredinthedorm Truth!
@@DnDDeepDive Makes me want to see a Cleric tank build!
How about a 1 level dip into daolock, grab crusher as well, and use spiritual weapon to push people into the spirit guradians radius? That should work
Clerics just are great damage dealers in general. Spirit guardians + spiritual weapon + toll the dead/sacred flame(with the potent spellcasting feature) is just a ton of consistent dpr with barely any resources expended.
Colby, loving the vid so far, light domain is my favourite subclass for cleric :D
Can I suggest a build revolving around the Double Bladed Scimitar?
It's a strong item with it's own built in Polearm Master which is pretty cool
Check out his Blender and Battery team build.
@@Ker-f4o Noice, thank you :)
I once did a Aasimar Sun Monk/light cleric. talk about light
Family cameo! Thanks for letting us be a part of your life!
Aw, I thought this one for sure would have the metal intro. a holy ultimate blaster? sounds metal to me.
Anyways, great video and build as always! Thanks for welcoming us character lovers home!
...and I know that it's on your list, but : beast barbarian/soulknife rogue (8) for the algorithm!
Aasimar build - I am there.
“The baddie.
The baddie
The Baddie s on fire 🔥
We don’t need no water ….
Let the BBEG BURN.
Burn BBEG ….burn”
All these Steinhardt's ads are great, but all they do is remind me how long I have to wait to get my hands on it :<
I pledged to the kickstarter so I could give all the cool physical stuff to my girlfriend for her birthday - which was today :> - before realising it was gonna release months later. I guess it's gonna be her Christmas present, lmao.
Best present ever!
Dawwwww when the exit commentary is sweeter than the intro commentary 🥹.
Love the build! I’d think fire spirit druid would be a really neat option with light cleric. Can’t wait to see you play it!
Had to double check, wow Arcana Cleric can't learn Fireball! O.o
Without going too heavily in the math here (and please, correct me if I am wrong! I don't intend this as a flex, just maybe a different understanding :D), I believe the !AVERAGE! damage gain of Elemental Adept (Fire) letting you change 1's into 2's effectively changes the possible damage range of a 3rd level Fireball from 8-48 to 16-48, thus increasing the average damage from 28 to 32. While it is niche and admittedly minimal, doubling the damage floor will definitely average out to be more than just a 1 damage on average increase as per the video.
It needs a buff for sure, but I think the 1's to 2's aspect of Elemental Adept is unfairly hated on by the community, as it is essentially a super version of the age old "2d6 is always better than 1d12, so always pick greatsword/maul over greataxe" optimization aspect.
Great video, as always, and I look forward to whatever your future ideas are. Hopefully my understanding of the information makes this build even MORE appealing to anyone interested in trying it at their tables!
Also crazy that this beat out the Evoker when you consider the Evoker was almost killing themselves with Overchannel. That hybrid version at the end sounds dope though! Is Wildfire Druid and/or a fire based controller on your list? Thanks regardless, love the vids
On the list! Thanks :)
+1 to a wildfire druid build!
I want a Sun Soul Monk! One day it'll happen, whenever you decide you want to fill up the bottom tier of the dps chart.
This is probably my my favourite build yet. I've avoided Light cleric mainly because I thought it got a bad rap compared to tempest cleric. No heave armor no martial weapon and a change divinity that scales poorly and uses an action. But this is amazing it makes up for all of that it's an amazing versatile Blaster and unlike a blaster wizard you don't die if someone sneezes in your Direction. One of the best part is that the race is asthma. It's so difficult not to pick variant human or custom lineage because that free feat is just so versatile but Aasimar is just such a great choice for this because it's brilliantly thematic and has fantastic synergy. Definitely roling this in my next game.
The race is WHAT? Hahahaha
I love your content! I’ve been thinking of a build that has a Echo knight fighter and warlock for multidirectional forced movement from all of the places the echo can be. I would love to see something like that on a build!
ghostlancing is what thats called, and its so cool. i would love to see colby's take on that.
On the to do list!
Echo Knight is banned in my group....
Hey Colby, great build! I’m super curious to see you do a build that’s based on Tenser’s Transformation. I’ve been theorycrafting an arcane trickster/bladesinger, but I’d love to see you take a crack at it. Have a great day!
Treantm0nks bIadesinger vide0 says that tensers transf0rmati0n is a dmg I0ss any way u sIice it. u sh0uId give it a gander (yes my Iapt0s keyb0ard is n0t great)
It's a great spell for a bladesinger.
Yes, nothing can compare to animate objects and so forth if you just look at damage numbers, but if your fantasy is your character wielding weapons with magic, it's great. The temporary hp is also massive, considering your AC while bladesinging
Another nice video and build. I've been very impressed with the innovation on the last dozen or so builds.
Thanks!
Hiya Coby, I just put this post onto the Reddit but thought I'd upload it here as well since I think you'd love the build (and name!):
HIMARS ----------------------------> High(Elf) Mobility Artillery Rocket System: Ranger Hunter 11 / Fighter Samurai 3
I saw the Pack Tactics video on the Ranger Hunter and decided to have a proper look at the subclass.
I feel like Volley is actually broken if used right - it costs no resources, and being able to exchange the 2/3 attacks Hunters has for no cost is very cheap, allowing one to hit anywhere from 4-16 (very huddled) enemies.
As you can see, I've been making notes for some hours, and can't find anything better than this. Please let me know if there's anything I'm missing/overlooked.
The best I can think of is:
- Elf (not sure which type) for +2 DEX, +1 WIS
- 3 levels Fighter, Archery Fighting Style and Samurai subclass for Fighting Spirit
- X levels Ranger, Close Quarters Shooter Fighting Style
- Sharpshooter at lvl 7
- Elven Accuracy at lvl 11
- Pick up 3rd lvl spell Flame Arrows at lvl 12
- FINALLY get Volley at lvl 14
At level 14 (3 Fighter, 11 Ranger) you would be able to shoot 2 volleys with advantage on every shot in one turn.
Each shot would have "double" advantage, +4 to hit, and deal 1d8+1d6+14 (average 22 dmg) to every enemy, with an insanely high chance to hit.
Let's assume your DM is nice enough to let you earn a +2 longbow by lvl 14. That's +6 to hit, double adv, and 24 dmg.
Using Action Surge, you could do this twice in the first round, hitting up to 16 enemies for 48 dmg on your first turn of combat, only using 1 of 3 Fighting Spirits (and a whole bunch of arrows).
This could be - hypothetically, in a world where you have every bad guy put in a giant bucket - 768 dmg on one turn, all for very little cost.
You can then do the same Volley with "double" advantage for two more turns, adding on another possible Volley for 384 dmg on each round.
It's insane to even talk about these numbers because it will literally never happen, but how much damage would we do to, say, 5 people in a 20ft diameter circle? That sounds much more reasonable.
24 x 5 = 120 dmg per Volley.
120 x 2 = 240 dmg for first turn.
Followed by 120 dmg for the next two turns if they don't or cannot move. (Rangers can cast Spike Growth / Plant Growth, so use them! Or, have a chat about tactics with your local Mage!)
That's a total of 480 dmg (96 dmg each) to 5 unlucky suckers in 3 turns... Pentakill?
All of this is without upcasting Flame Arrows (god forbid).
And, all of this can be done from 600ft thanks to Sharpshooter.
Furthermore, if you got either the Dragon Wing Bow or Dragon Wrath Weapon, then it just gets really stupid really quick. I would love to see the maths for this but I am way too tired and need to go read a book because my eyes are starting to hurt.
Thank you for listening,
Your Local Min/Maxer
P.S, I know Spike Growth is concentration. Drop the Flame Arrows depending on the situation as it is very beneficial to keep them together and SG might well do a lot more damage.
P.P.S, If you did this up to lvl 17 I would reccommend Assassin Rogue for the last few levels just to get that disgusting critical hit, which works for every attack roll in the first Volley.
(Yes, Sneak Attack would only work with the first target of Volley, but getting crits on each of these attacks would be nuts anyway.)
Oh man clicked this as soon as I saw this. This is gonna be a good one. I love the picture your daughter is quite the artist
Omg I think I left a comment on your last video about me playing a homebrewed Sun Soul Monk. Named Lucy (short for Lucifer), an Aasimar born to a Dwarf and Half Elf.
The Cleric and Warlock classes were taken, so Sun Soul Monk was left for me to take, so I stole the Cleric feature, and became a 1/3rd caster (with the DM's approval).
Excited to roleplay her. Would post my fan art of her here if I could. I'm leaning into the shonen tropes
Love your videos! Please consider a revisit to the Barbearian build - suggestion, 3 Barbearian / X Cavalier fighter, shifter, hammer/shield and dueling style.
I'm told that on the rare occasions when a 40x20 column of damage actually lets you draw a straight line through enemies at multiple elevations without cooking your party's bladesinger in the process, Flame Strike will definitely make you feel pretty okay about yourself.
As a fifth-level spell of My God Says Screw You In Particular, though -- which is what you probably want more often -- it's definitely lackluster.
Your daughter is going to grow up to be just like dad, I can already tell
Thank you for this 😀
I'm playing a female drow 9 lvl pure Light Domain Cleric (yeah, weird I know, but hey Eilistree have Light as a Divine Domain. 😄 ) and it is a very cool class. Just love it. 😀
As lvl 4 feat. I have chosen so far "Drow High Magic". I mean, "Detect Magic" at will and "Darkness" and "Levitate" once a day have saved my butt more than once. LVL8, I took +2 Wisdom (total 18, for the moment).
Never thought of "Telekinetic" before for my progression; it is noted now. 😀
Awesome build!!
Didn't expect a light cleric to be able to do this much aoe burst damage (hooray for action surge!)
Cleric is so useful
I am surprised you didn't mention killer spells like Silence that can completely and utterly shut down otherwise very dangerous spellcasters
And the utility of having the ability to resurrect, to literally make food, and so much more
Having access to your entire spell list is such a huge thing for clerics too
Do you ever consider going over older builds as new character options come out?
Not really... my gut tells me that most people who have seen those might feel like it's a bit of a cop-out for new content, but if demand gets high enough...
@@DnDDeepDive Instead of new videos, you could update the written guides if you have the time.
Love it! I've probably been one of those ranting on about Light Clerics. Been playing one for over a year now (Hill Dwarf), level 1 through to (currently) 12. So. Much. Fun. They are Frontline, Tank, Healer, Controller, Buffer, Debuffer, AoE, Single Target Obliteration, Multi Target spam, Melee, Spells, High AC, they can do it all. I HIGHLY recommend anyone having a play at one if given the chance, you wont regret it.
We had a bit of a color temperature rave in this video :-) Red Colby, Blue Colby, Yellow Colby, GREEEEEN Colby! Ooontz ooontz ooontz.
Colby Rave!
Kinda fitting that the white balance goes wild for the Light Cleric. :D
Hey Colby, do you mind sharing what kind of equipment you use for these videos? I love the set up and the tone you set, certainly makes you feel at home and I am glad to be here
Thanks! A blue yeti mic and my iphone for the camera with EpocCam Pro software and OBS for recording :).
@@DnDDeepDive I'd recommend you put a light source on yourself, because each time the video edit jumps, we can see the ambient light in the room change (I assume from a window), which drives your production quality down. Number one rule of film -- LIGHT LIGHT LIGHT!
My Boi is crushing this
Another interesting class build, as usual.
Incredibly curious what you could build by making a Str Melee Horizon Walker.
Someone gotta clean up the chaff. A fireball aint too bad at removing a couple minions. I would keep multitarget and single target separate for QoL perhaps. Or like an asterisk to the ones dealing damage to multiple targets.
Hey Colby, I've been tossing around this idea after playing Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous. There is a Mythic path called Swarm-That-Walks, and the concept seems really cool. My idea to try to rebuild this was a swarmkeeper ranger with warlock levels. I've debated going Dao for a cheesegrater build, pushing enemies farther than ever before with the crusher feat. Flavor the swarm as sand and have your genie vessel be an hourglass. Ive debated the archfey warlock for just a stupid amount of fairies. I was hoping we could see your expertise in number crunching to see where this could go. Thanks bud!
That sounds like gaara
Swarmkeeper works so well with all the Genie warlocks.
Madrid ice Genie the Swarm is swirling snow or ice shards, or even mist if you are going more water style.
The Efrit fire Genie the swarm can be swirling flames, ashes, fire flies, embers or smoke.
For the lighting Genie, the swarm can be sparks or crackling electricity arching around you, or metal bits and shards if you go for the flavour of some sort of magnetic power.
Personally, I'd love to get Spirit Guardians somehow as well, meaning your Warlock could just be a wee dip of Prof damage per 1 hit, if you added in Cleric
@@spencervance8484 it really does. Or prince of Egypt
I was in an AL epic where one of the players used divine intervention to help solve a mystery, he succeeded and the DM used it to turn our partial success into failure because of the wording of the request. So I understand your concern about the lack of specificity and variable results of Divine Intervention.
It's funn how in 5e the best blaster is the cleric, the best archer is a human with a toy crossbow, and the wizard usually has the best AC in the party
I'm curious what the actual numbers are for doing Single Target vs AoE DPR. In Final Fantasy 14, the group doing AoE is more efficient until you're down to just one guy, despite AoE skills being lower damage.
I love the Pew Pew Cleric build, I'm so glad you have this out now. I hope I didn't annoy you too much on Twitter :P.
Nice! Im currently playing a divine soul sorcerer, with an abyssal demon and a celestial up in his head, kind of a nice congruence with your last 2 builds (Shadow master and this one)
This is basically my build for playing Swain from league of legends. Necrotic shroud for the ult. Light cleric reflavored as ravens and lightning. 2 fighter/5 light cleric (for spirit guardians) 13 divine soul. 10/10/16/10/16/20 pick up telekinetic feat at some point.
If you want the 14th level feature of divine soul, then drop second fighter level. I like action surge but it’s not necessary, just good for using the second action to take dodge action after your full setup is going (necrotic shroud, spirit guardians). Next turn faerie fire, or twin Guiding bolt, walk into enemies, spirit guardians and necrotic shroud. Bonus action try and pull with telekinetic, or push and walk in further. Action surge and dodge. Enjoy the mayhem.
This always drops In time for me to listen during my travel home from work after my least favorite work day. What a way to relax. Much appreciated 👍🏻
The light clerics divine feature is really nice at those low levels when monsters rarely have a super con save and when other AoE is lacking. 2d10 is decent DMG when you first get it and I agree that while single target damage can be better, generally speaking it can also be an advantage to do 20 DMG to 3 enemies rather than doing 40 DMG to one. Especially when you got other single damage specialists.
Had a glorious moment of swooshing away around 10 goblins with a fireball, something that otherwise would have posed a bit of a problem on a group with single target attackers ^^
yeah i hope you split the multi-target and single-target striker builds. it doesn't make hitting century marks as exciting when i know its to 3 targets.
personally, i think this whole build is better done as a divine sorc with a fighter 2 dip. warding flare and it's upgrade is not a strong enough benefit to counter the sorc benefits such as empowered spell, transmute spell, careful spell, access to sorc spells and for that little dmg jump at level 6-8. Sorcs can have 4th level slots for upcasting at level 6 and can have 5th level slots at level 7-8 due to font of sorcery.
i do agree though for an SG main, dipping stars 2 and dao 1 was a better choice if you wanted to do a wis based caster (light cleric). i'm sure though you can eventually fit in fighter 2 at latter levels though.
Thanks for the build! Your daughter's support for the channel is awesome 😊
But what happened to Torey? Haven't been able to follow the live play lately. Why won't she participate in season two?
Thanks :). Torrey is taking a break for personal reasons.
My party has a light cleric as a primary blaster. He went Kobold so he could take Firebolt as a cantrip and benefit from elemental adept a little more. It seems to work really well.
Have you ever made a SorLock built around Hex + Hexblade's Curse + Bestow Curse (necrotic damage) + Scorching Ray? A magical machine gun single-target burst build? Lots of set-up, but still really interesting. I designed a Warforged that did this named Ronald Raygun. My DM wouldn't let me use him...
“For my blasty support light cleric, I’m going to start fighter, but I’m not going to use heavy armor or martial weapons. I’m also going to pick the aasimar thing that only works within 5 feet because goodness knows I’m not going to be trying to avoid dropping concentration on Bless, Spirit Guardians, or heck, even Faery Fire”
Also by multiclassing you are hamstringing your light cleric more than most of your terrible multiclass builds because Radiance of Dawn is incredible at level 2-5 but falls off but you get Fireball at its most powerful. Multiclassing dilutes that power for…. Nothing?
Why not Divine soul sorc for shield and con saves. It even fits thematically.
Edit: the longer I listen the worse it gets.
My favorite burst damage cleric is the Tempest Domain Cleric. Level 4 take the Metamagic Adept feat so at level 6 you can quicken Call Lightning, then use your action to continue the spell. At level 9 you would be a 7th level Cleric and 2nd level fighter. Quicken Call Lightning, then use Action Surge to continue the spell effect 2 more times. Using a 4th level spell slot and the channel divinity to do max damage on one roll, you would deal 8d10 + 40 damage in a 15 by 15 foot square. You can probably hit 2, maybe even 3 enemies with all that damage.
How about taking a third level in Fighter for Eldritch Knight. Gives the same spellslots a cleric level would have given. But also 2 more Cantrips, and Shield, Sleep and Magic Missile, wich all don't care about our low INT score.
I am currently playing Temptest Cleric(1)/Evoker(3) In a way to give Evoker tankness and healing. While I only have first level healing spells but with full spell progression it doesn't seem to hurt that much. I am curious how you would build it.
People really do underestimate the power of Clerics. Some of the best sustained damage for a caster, but still good burst potential with the right builds. They aren't just healers. They are Harmacists.
Any chance you could make a few builds with sub classes that are more RP heavy and help optimize them for combat? I've wanted to play an inquisitive rogue forever, but I don't want to fall behind my crazy good min/maxing friends too much.
Great video. Looking at some Light Cleric ideas for a Strahd campaign. I had a question on your cleric/druid mix at the end. Did you just stick with non-metal armor? Getting up close enough for Spirit Guardians to work without a solid ac seems risky.
At the final war scene in Rise of Tiamat, I FINALLY got divine intervention to proc. I wished to resurrect the monk that had been disintegrated months before, but leveled up to the party’s current level. My DM didn’t go for it, to my dismay. It would have been perfect! That monk should have been there at the end with the rest of the party. Instead my god killed a bunch of enemy dragons, which was admittedly helpful.
Your videos are great! But light clerics don't get heavy armor proficiency. (Edit: Though, heh, that totally doesn't matter for this build.)
Thanks d4, could you do an optimized build involving the Echo Knight or Beastheart sub/class please?
I thought of something similar. I usually start with character story then I build. This character idea was a half dwarf and I wanted her to be a war cleric but the subclass is no good. I liked the light better but in her background though she was Noble birth she took part in violent games. Father was a dwarven War hero and human mother is just rich and into politics. To be simple I just chose the knight background (high born but experience with fighting). I was going to start 2 levels in fighter but I am reviewing your build. I like it. My dm/gm is cool with the half-dwarf he actually showed me acceptable stats etc. Now if he'll allow me to have Mordin as her God with the light subclass. Funny my only assmair is a battle mage. With Tashas you can adjust perks. I love that. I really like the traditional standards for races except for player characters. I mean you're a hero or anti-hero so you should be a cut above, different from the norm. Keep up the good work.
Highlight of my Tuesdays as always!
I LITERALLY JUST GOOGLED LIGHT CLERIC... and then i see this video
I have a challenge for you. Highest Sustained DPR out of just the first three manuals of D&D 5e. Can be boring, but certainly a challenge and probably going to be used by new players.
Question regarding to "Radiant consumption": You are in 10 feet of you yourself... So you also take the damage, right?
Do any members of your family play D&D? And have they used any of your builds?
If not, do they understand what your channel is about?
Alas they do not, but yes they’ve got a basic understanding :)
@@DnDDeepDive Well maybe they will in the future! It’s cool that they at least sort of know what your channel is about.
I really like your channel! I’ve been watching for awhile now (>year?). Keep up the good work! I hope it stays fun for you for a long time.
@@gabep3586 Thanks!
I played an Aasimar Life Cleric based on the Archangel Michael.
In the final battle of Descent into Avernus, I used the Divine Intervention feature and asked Tyr to guide my hand and help me smite the fiend. I rolled low enough for my request to be granted. My DM gave me advantage on my next attack and a maxed out Paladin Smite. I do not remember how much damage I dealt but it was a LOT.
FYI: Light Domain Clerics do not get heavy armor.
Fighter does?
@@charlesblechen3932 both true!
Could you make a forge cleric/artificer build please? Mechanically I think it's odd but the idea of it sounds so cool. Like a dwarven iron man that worships Ultron
I used this character as the basis of my BBEG in my last campaign. It's so freaking busted.
I know you did a sort of special agent 007 type build with rogue and armor artifister but would you consider an “ultimate thief” build with the same combo? Since you can get advantage on stealth checks. Would you make a build that’s more focused on utility with some decent damage in combat?
Lol I don't know if it's just my TH-cam being funky by every cut made changed the tone color of the background.
I will say that Flaming sphere isn't awful when you're not high enough level for Spirit Guardians, even with a Spiritual weapon out. The main use would be for battlefield control or once the melee characters all mash together you place your flaming sphere right behind your enemies. My party was once attacking a bandit hideout and behind the main room of the place was a door leading to a hallway, so I plopped the flaming sphere right at that door. I did get lucky with my rolls, My DM rolled to see if the bandits liked their friends well enough to run through a 5 foot sphere of fire and those that did failed their dex save and took almost full damage.
But still, it can still be useful even if you don't move it.
I bet clerics can do better in any "magic" role than any other class, dps is broken just cause of spirit guardians, control is amazing depending on subclass, healing is of course the best in game. And maybe clerics can do better than most melee or tanks also.
A party of 4 clerics is by far the most OP party you can make, with infinite healing, all tanky, huge damage output etc.
Big fan of the class since my storm cleric destroyed tiamats campain.
I'm sure you thought of this and I just missed something - but why take the druid levels for archer form over using spiritual weapon?
Instead of elemental adept I would have taken metamagic adept there! You’d have just enough sorcery points to protect a friend or two on that nova round, basically a budget evocation wizard here
Hey! I'm 15 and I absoultly love your videos man they are awesome! Kepp up the great work
Hey Colby sorry not done with the video if you mention it later. Would the flame walker (sorry forgot the name the one that causes flame damage if you pass them.) Was that a multi target build?
help!! me dm is doing a campaign but he’s allowing thrown daggers to be considered ranged im thinking of doing custom lineage eleven accuracy into sharpshooter gonna be a rouge fighter combo but dont know how far i should take fighter or what subclasses to pick
my villain in the campaign is a warforged light cleric/Horizen Walker ranger themed after a lighthouse
Please go back and rename the video to "The Holy Hand Grenade".
I will be entirely unable to find it again otherwise.
You think a sun soul monk/light cleric could work?
possibly... might have to put this on my to do list.
@@DnDDeepDive sweet, thanks for the reply.
Keep making kick ass vids!
Looking forward to hearing your thoughts about the new One D&D UA, Cory!
Listen, Randy is great but I'd like to commission some work from the 8yo.
I didnt use it in combat, i used divine intervention for RP, where my tempest cleric found out that her domain didnt come from bahamut, but rather the Chromatic dragon mark on her eye from Tiamat cultists made her god be Tiamat dragon of chaos XD