Top 5 MORE Underrated But Awesome Subclasses In D&D

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    • @TheLegendaryLegacy
      @TheLegendaryLegacy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So I gotta tell you that you’re wrong about the jump ability for beast barbarian. Remember you ADD your athletics total check. Rage, then grapple. Then jump in the air as high as possible. Then body slam it.

  • @gabevilleneuve2468
    @gabevilleneuve2468 ปีที่แล้ว +982

    I play a Path of the Beast Barbarian currently in a campaign and its a great time! Small correction, you can make the extra attacks with your claws as long as *either* of your hands are empty, you don't need both empty. This is especially good when you go with a dual wielding build, as you can have a real weapon in one hand and still get your extra claw attack!

    • @somerandomginger9938
      @somerandomginger9938 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Beast Barbarian Thri-Kreen is amazing

    • @frognyanya
      @frognyanya ปีที่แล้ว +41

      I play a beast barb monk for 5 attacks per turn with flurry of blows. Claws are a monk weapon!

    • @christocanoid
      @christocanoid ปีที่แล้ว +18

      The best part is that the extra claw attack isn't an Extra Attack, OR a bonus action. My character build allows a claw claw bite attack now. It's pretty fun

    • @kylethomas9130
      @kylethomas9130 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The great part is the action economy of it, when you get Extra Attack there's 3 attacks you can make. Take certain Feats or Monk levels, and then you'll get more with your Bonus Action. 3 attacks at 5th level, with Flurry of Blows you get 4 attacks.
      You can still use ki with Barbarian armor proficiencies, and can use Dex or Str for your Unarmed Strikes, so it's a viable combo for a good variety of stats.
      Just keep in mind you only get the 1st Unarmored Defense feature, the 2nd one will not only not stack, but can't replace the 1st RAW.

    • @drewberrycrunch1417
      @drewberrycrunch1417 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was thinking more in line with using a shield and still dishing out great sword damage.

  • @elmsigreen
    @elmsigreen ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I feel quite vindicated because these are all subclasses that I've either recently played or convinced a friend to try out and we had so much fun

  • @zachschreck
    @zachschreck ปีที่แล้ว

    Dhampir Beast Barbarian is the most fun Ive had in any D&D game. Not only do you get to make all the Morbius jokes but dropping from the ceiling with 4 reckless attack lets you out-monster the monsters. So good.

  • @brandtgill2601
    @brandtgill2601 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been playing a knowlege domain owlfolk for the last year in an icewind dale campaign. Its awesome can't recommend the subclass enough

  • @UninterestingPedant
    @UninterestingPedant ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m playing a level 6 Custom Lineage Beast Barbarian, having taken Tavern Brawler and Skill Expert (for Athletics expertise) and have themed around being a professional wrestler.
    The level 6 jumping option has been fantastic and so much fun to live into the bit - after attacking my target 3x with claws and then grappling them as a BA, I can *from a standing position* jump up to 20 feet into the air and come back down with them (which I flavor as a spinning pile driver) for an extra 1- to 2d6 bludgeoning damage from the fall that knocks us both prone. And then, once on the ground prone, I release the grapple to get my other half of my speed back, which I use to stand back up.
    It’s the best

  • @palmtree2711
    @palmtree2711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok this is immediately at the start of the video, but thank you so much for shouting out knowledge domain, it's such a cool and fun subclass that just gets a really bad rep because it's not combat oriented. Glad to see it highlighted.

  • @Daktangle
    @Daktangle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the OneD&D rules update for Jumping may make the Beast Barb's jump enhancement better. Still not amazing, but you get to jump much further with those rules, so by extension you can leap about a rough battlefield like a mountain goat.

    • @Daktangle
      @Daktangle 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So that's two Barbarian subclasses that are improved by OneD&D. Berserker is so strong with the changes to Exhaustion and dual wielding.

  • @metalheadflwerchild
    @metalheadflwerchild ปีที่แล้ว

    5 Beast Barbarian 2 Fighter with the two weapon fighting style you can make 7 attacks in one turn. I really love the Beast Barbarian.

  • @ChromaticCluck
    @ChromaticCluck ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like making the prince forget the fact that he gave you the steed will make him think you stole it, no?

  • @EdrickBluebeard
    @EdrickBluebeard ปีที่แล้ว

    Path of the Beast plasmoid= Venom.
    Beast Plasmoid with eldritch adept for unlimited disguise self= Venom, but a mimic.

  • @LokangoFreewar15
    @LokangoFreewar15 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:00 It's like a nerfed additional magical secrets of the college of Lore bard, the only good thing is that you can change it every long rest, but as it is limited to divination and necromancy you can't pull tricks like go cast something like find steed or goodberry that lasts at least 24 hours and can't enjoy aura of vitality and haste... animate dead is the only spell I found to do that, but you have to maintain it everyday...

    • @LordZeebee
      @LordZeebee ปีที่แล้ว

      i play in a westmarch and it's honestly been really nice being able to pick up Revivify on the fly whenever there isn't a reliable healer in the party. Really neat feature

  • @AbyssalDragon42
    @AbyssalDragon42 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made a custom trapper subclass for artificer. There hasn't been a player character that's used it yet.

  • @Avenz0r
    @Avenz0r ปีที่แล้ว

    I played a one-shot as a beast barb leonin so I can have a reasonable way to be a manticore like.

  • @user-cc7uu5dd6d
    @user-cc7uu5dd6d ปีที่แล้ว

    i play an ass monk, im a gold dragon born with the gift of the metallic dragon i have like 5 uses of the breath weapon granted 2 are fire only and the rest i can choose but this subclass is so fun.

  • @CPCrnchBerry
    @CPCrnchBerry ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @jackwilson5050
    @jackwilson5050 ปีที่แล้ว +613

    I made a major villain in a campaign an Enchantment Wizard and he instilled a healthy amount of paranoia for the party with his antics.

    • @Noobie2k7
      @Noobie2k7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I mean any subclass that figures a lot on Enchantment stuff makes for great Villains as Enchantment is by far the most evil and unethical school of magic. Second in my opinion would be Divination.

    • @hauz287
      @hauz287 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@@Noobie2k7 necromancy is a school don't forget 😈

    • @MayHugger
      @MayHugger ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@hauz287 Necromancy itself isn’t really evil per se, people just view it in a negative light, and the people that use it tend to gravitate towards an evil alignment.

    • @DeltronZero656
      @DeltronZero656 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Did he do it with hypnotic gays?

    • @deepfriedxans7270
      @deepfriedxans7270 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MayHuggeridk man, necromancers perverse the laws of nature, seems evil to me

  • @ikeillue8385
    @ikeillue8385 ปีที่แล้ว +1172

    "Suggest a Prince gives you his prized steed, and forget he ever did so."
    *gets steed, causes Prince to forget*
    Prince: "What are you doing with my steed!? GUARDS ARREST THEM!"

    • @uriahronin4788
      @uriahronin4788 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Clearly you would leave the area before the spell/effect wears off.

    • @deffdefying4803
      @deffdefying4803 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      @@uriahronin4788 so once you leave the area the dude just leaves his horse? this isnt skyrim, he'll have the guard searching for it if it's a prized steed.

    • @jkelleyk
      @jkelleyk ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@deffdefying4803 thats when you just saw the certificate of ownership signed over to you by the prince lol

    • @pauciloquentflibbertigibbe5217
      @pauciloquentflibbertigibbe5217 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      The wording is that you can alter a targets memories so that they don't remember being charmed, not that they forget the entire interaction. Most spells that have some kind of mind control effect usually have the downside that the target immeditely realizes that you used magic on them, so in this case, the Prince would remember giving you his steed, but would not remember that you used magic to make him do it.

    • @Butterb0ne
      @Butterb0ne ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I thought the same. Better to make him forget he was charmed, not the whole transaction

  • @lndianajoe
    @lndianajoe ปีที่แล้ว +304

    Knowledge Cleric: 0:06
    Beast Barbarian: 2:15
    Ascendant Dragon Monk: 7:06
    Enchantment Wizard: 10:55
    College of Spirits Bard: 14:16

    • @KaioKenneth4
      @KaioKenneth4 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Doing the Lord’s work 🙏

    • @IUltimateMage
      @IUltimateMage 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you 🙏

    • @brimstoneclub
      @brimstoneclub 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I wish there was a video on Arcane Pastry chef and time traveler. They exist in the wiki, just saying.

    • @lndianajoe
      @lndianajoe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brimstoneclub what

    • @piranhaplantX
      @piranhaplantX 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@brimstoneclubThose are not official subclasses, so that's probably why.

  • @captvalstrax
    @captvalstrax ปีที่แล้ว +604

    Way of the Ascendent Dragon sounds like what people wanted out of Way of the Four Elements.

    • @SymbioteMullet
      @SymbioteMullet ปีที่แล้ว +26

      It really reminded me of the 4 elements remaster that went round a few years back.

    • @CloudyDaze
      @CloudyDaze ปีที่แล้ว +23

      HONESTLY This were the exact words I thought when i read through Ascendent Dragon Monk. Astral Self will always be my favorite but this was my close second.

    • @zachscarbrough2727
      @zachscarbrough2727 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I’m currently playing an ascendant dragon monk, and it’s actually a really fun subclass. Now if only I could play as the monk properly. 😅

    • @Volatile9747
      @Volatile9747 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Dragon monk is something I'm planning on playing as a backup for one of my games if my current PC dies

    • @XNecroEyesX
      @XNecroEyesX ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I played a four element monk in my last campaign and when my dm noticed that it sucks he let me change to ascended dragon, tied it to the character by having my warforged monk (called Trainingsdummy) go a little crazy and think they are an actual dragon, Lots of fun had rping that
      Also used the flying speed to become a living cannonball and accidentally destroying one of the Boss encounters, dm regrettet letting me reroll that day

  • @senorsnek1502
    @senorsnek1502 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Modify memory also seems like a fantastic spell for the enchantment wizard and their split enchantment. Changing what one witness saw can get you out of a jam, changing what two saw can rewrite history

    • @solosynapse
      @solosynapse ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ah yes, the False Hydra Method

    • @JacobL228
      @JacobL228 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      There's nothing that says the modified memories have to be the same. You could potentially have three people who all remember things completely differently. A three-way argument can make for a great distraction that might even grow in size as more people get involved.

    • @markdasaro9045
      @markdasaro9045 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let's not forget about the spell feeblemind also an enchantment spell

    • @casbot71
      @casbot71 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Friends cantrip is also a enchantment spell, and its big downside is that after it ends the target knows that you used magic on it to influence it, and so it's rightly pissed off.
      But what if it never remembers what happened?
      Spammable mental influence.....

  • @Neutral_Tired
    @Neutral_Tired ปีที่แล้ว +156

    Enchantment is one of my favourite wizard subclasses. Also, undeniably the most evil. A necromancer will use your body to kill your friends, an enchanter will make you kill your friends and you'll thank them for it

  • @DnDShorts
    @DnDShorts  ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I run D&D games for people all over the world and have played for years, and I have never seen any of these subclasses played more than once, except number 2 which I think is played a little more than the others but not nearly enough! What subclasses do you think are underrated?

    • @valor2746
      @valor2746 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      War Cleric. Can really fit the theme of that warrior chosen by the gods or a warrior that asked the gods for help. Ie. -Kratos shouting to Ares.

    • @matthewletexier
      @matthewletexier ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do you still run games for patrons? I might be interested

    • @grahamcaldwell5492
      @grahamcaldwell5492 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@valor2746 I think the flavor of war cleric is rad, but the actual abilities, let’s be honest, kinda suck. The best ability is the level 1 ability, and even then it’s limited in use and only useful in multiclass builds

    • @DnDShorts
      @DnDShorts  ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@matthewletexier I do but I think it's fully booked atm! Slots open up occassionally though! I limit the amount of people at the higher tiers because my priority is putting on the best games I can, and that means keeping the group size small enough that everyone gets their moments to shine and running no more than 3 games a month so I have time to prep everything and invest fully into it! Keep an eye on the patreon though as every now and then spaces open at the Gold Dragon and Platinum Dragon tiers.

    • @Commander_Appo
      @Commander_Appo ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Any Druid subclass because I feel like I’m the only person that’s ever played a Druid

  • @laszloszikorszky9866
    @laszloszikorszky9866 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    I am so glad we are back to the goofy content I love! I Hope they won’t mess up so bad in the future…

    • @theeviljames
      @theeviljames ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree :)

    • @MerlinTheCommenter
      @MerlinTheCommenter ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I knew someone was going to say this. He has a plethora of the goofy stuff to look at. I honestly don’t understand this gripe. He was definitely going to go back to it anyway. It was inevitable. Drama content swap from fun content isn’t sustainable anyway. 🤷‍♂️

    • @WD_Gaster66
      @WD_Gaster66 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MerlinTheCommenter Your comment seems to imply that OC has a gripe with him going back to fun stuff? Which is just?? Like what even

    • @Lordmewtwo151
      @Lordmewtwo151 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MerlinTheCommenter Maybe not, but it does have its uses. But yeah, the fun content is definitely more exciting, even if the more serious content (like concerns on what the company is doing) needs to be said every now and then.

  • @iduno3592
    @iduno3592 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    4:29 or you target the bodyguard NEXT TO the spellcaster, making them attack the spellcaster dealing damage if it hits, likely taking a spell slot as the caster puts up a shield cus they know how powerful their bodyguard is, and taking both of their reactions

    • @FlapNasty3
      @FlapNasty3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or it does enough damage that the spellcaster loses concentration on a spell.

  • @Hopperton
    @Hopperton ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Knowledge Domain Clerics 0:08
    Beast Barbarian 02:17
    Way of the Ascendant Dragon Monk 07:08
    Enchanment Wizards 10:53
    College of Spirits of Bard 14:16

    • @gamer125311
      @gamer125311 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not all heroes wear capes

  • @TBoring
    @TBoring ปีที่แล้ว +66

    For Beast Barbarian I like to take the Unarmed Fighting style to never need to carry a weapon. Also maybe take a level in monk for a BA attack. If you take Way of the Ascendant Dragon with it you don’t have to go with 6 levels in Monk for your unarmed strikes to be magical and gives you 5 additional damage types (you can also make your bite claw and tail attacks dragon themed)

    • @darkdragonsoul99
      @darkdragonsoul99 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The problem of course RAW beast barbarians aren't unarmed those natural weapons are classed as simple weapons not unarmed attacks.

    • @fendelphi
      @fendelphi ปีที่แล้ว

      You have to go MAD if you want Monk though. You need a minimum 13 in Strength, Dexterity and Wisdom.

    • @briaormead4239
      @briaormead4239 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@darkdragonsoul99
      Havent read the beast subclass but if they are simple weapons they are monk weapons. Monk weapons are simple weapons+shortswords.

    • @Shalakor
      @Shalakor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fendelphi I mean, a decent Barb will want a bit of Dex and Wis anyway for AC, Save, and Skill usage. Might be a problem if rolling for stats, but with pointbuy and the option to give races +1 to three stats, you can still have 16 Str to start with three other ability scores at 14. Some race and pointbuy array combos even allow for two 16s and two 14s at level 1.

    • @RocKaFella57
      @RocKaFella57 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Shalakor Point buy can be rough when you want Str, Dex, and Con

  • @curoskai
    @curoskai ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I'm playing a Spirits Bard in Curse of Strahd. Playing as a Vistani and definitely has great flavor for it.

    • @johnpixie
      @johnpixie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ay, I also played a vistani spirit bard with 2 levels of trickster cleric. Tones of fun. This was however after my shadow sorcerer dhampir joined up with Strad 😅

  • @aliceofspades
    @aliceofspades ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I shouldn’t think “hypnotic gays” is as funny as I do. 😂

  • @SgtSnug
    @SgtSnug ปีที่แล้ว +67

    My current character is a Way of the Ascendant Dragon Monk, a Kobold who wants to become a Dragon, its been a constant source of amusement imagining a tiny 3 foot kobold flying past on spectral wings barfing fire exclaiming 'I'm a Dragon!'

    • @lucasramey6427
      @lucasramey6427 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I mean good for them they're embracing their genetic heritage as the race closest to being true dragons

    • @spearghost225
      @spearghost225 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm in my corner with a Warforged one

    • @marioramunno4180
      @marioramunno4180 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I have an Kobold character with the same motivation. Difference is he’s an Armorer and his suit of armor is made to look like a dragon

    • @bevans4712
      @bevans4712 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's sick I may have to use it​@@marioramunno4180

  • @Axel-zc6xj
    @Axel-zc6xj ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "Are candles scary?" May I introduce you to the Greek Lampades, whom follow Hecate, the goddess of witchcraft, and carried torches, lanterns, or CANDLES that is said to drive mortals insane upon being looked at. The Lampades took great pleasure in doing this, often going out of their way in groups to play "pranks", often causing mass hysteria and even free-for-all bloodbaths.

    • @AnthonyBalster
      @AnthonyBalster ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What if your spellcasting focus was a candle of evocation. That could be scary

  • @bradcraig6676
    @bradcraig6676 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    The knowledge cleric and the enchantment wizard are definitely underrated, they can be two of the most powerful classes in 5e if they are played properly.

    • @adrienwatson2179
      @adrienwatson2179 ปีที่แล้ว

      I REALLY want to create a knowledge Cleric
      Time to do some research and build one

    • @richardmenz3257
      @richardmenz3257 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      100% underrated, but I can see why they are since dm may not be skilled enough to work with players how these 2 classes are meant be or players not creative enough to use class properly.

    • @eliezeririzarry247
      @eliezeririzarry247 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My first real multi-session D&D character was a knowledge domain cleric. "Eggsy" the egg-headed elf has some kind of magnetism I can't explain, and I think the subclass plays a big part of it.
      I play him pretty much every time I start a campaign with a new group, and something about being a good healer/skill monkey while being able to keep up in damage and social interaction with spiritual weapon and the buffed suggestion, it's just always well appreciated when played smart.
      Once I got comfortable with the rules, I pump Int, multi classed with scribe wizard and then you truly feel like the ultimate tome master as long as you're fine with ignoring arcane damage over divine. The roleplay is wide open and you can carry a group of martials without really lagging behind while leveling up for counterspell and revivify

    • @casbot71
      @casbot71 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@eliezeririzarry247 What if you used a Pallid Elf as the elven race?.
      That's going to be some solid skill monkeying.

  • @abadidea5984
    @abadidea5984 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I had the opportunity to play with a high level Enchanter Wizard and let me say I was _not_ ready for how strong they were. The entire table was stunned the moment he ended a huge encounter by dropping a Mass Suggestion and forcing an entire warband of enemies to take a hike for eight hours.

  • @Dudeman9339
    @Dudeman9339 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Beast barbarian is great for Tabaxi. Pair it with an Eldritch Claw Tattoo.

    • @brucebrown2241
      @brucebrown2241 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it is redundant for Tabaxi. You get claws as a Beast that do more damage than Tabaxi claws. My Beast Barb is a shifter and I use Wild hunt which means that even when I reckless attack, no one gets advantage against me. AC 19. Hard to hit and a damage sponge. The shift even give me temp HP.

  • @kobralex
    @kobralex ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Regarding the Beast Barbs Claws: it says that both hands transform and that you can use them as natural weapons, if free. It doesn't say that both need to be free for that extra attack, meaning you can make all attacks with one claw and carry a shield in the other hand

    • @lucasramey6427
      @lucasramey6427 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They count as simple weapons but yeah (them being simple weapons is super important because it unlocks a lot of jank like an eldritch knight being able to attune to your beast weapons and use them without needing to rage allowing multiple people to benefit from them, also artificers can put Infusions on them)

    • @davidstratton696
      @davidstratton696 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also with the claws since they are a natural weapon attack they count as both a weapon attack and an unarmed attack. So u could do stuff like multiclass into Paladin and divine smite with them or since the claws are only a d6 u could get the unarmed fighting style to make it go up to a d8 (since again it’s considered an unarmed attack as well). It’s not much of a difference but it’s there. Heck u could multiclass into Monk and make 1 or 2 attacks with your claws as a bonus action for a total of 4-5 attacks in a turn. U could even enchant your claws since they are a weapon if u have like an artificer or multiclass into one or some other way to do it. Theirs just so many options that open up due to it counting as both. And theirs definitely more but this is all I can think of atm.
      Edit: clarification

  • @VestAround
    @VestAround ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for the love for College of Spirits Bard. I’m in my first campaign and using this subclass and I think it’s amazing.

  • @TheGodPoing
    @TheGodPoing ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Rabbitfolk beast barbarian's boosted jump is so much fun

    • @danwebber9494
      @danwebber9494 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Played one at 6th level in a one shot. Very fun build!

    • @okashiromi5541
      @okashiromi5541 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That just sounds like flying for a turn, which obviously is awesome XD. Gonna need a really good landing plan tho

    • @JacobL228
      @JacobL228 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those have got to be the most toned legs in the world.

    • @lucasramey6427
      @lucasramey6427 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love rabbitfolk it's hilarious to hear about the stories about lv 1 rabbit wizards who immediately died upon using their jump

  • @JKSSubstandard
    @JKSSubstandard ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I played a beast barbarian for icewinddale. It was so much fun. It could use a little more flexibility, but the flavor is damn near msg levels.

    • @JacobL228
      @JacobL228 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet you showed those winter wolves who the real alpha was.

  • @Varis...
    @Varis... ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I really enjoy the divine soul sorcerer. Any class that can play way more support than you expect is always fun.

    • @JacobL228
      @JacobL228 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Divine Soul/Celestial sorlock = best support healer ever.

  • @NoSystemFound
    @NoSystemFound ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Do you have hypnotic gay guys back there?"
    My entire group, hiding underneath the table: "He's found us."

  • @majorasmask5523
    @majorasmask5523 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Actually, that Monk subclass sounds fun. I’ve been working on a Monk/Barbarian mix, so I’ll remember that Dragon goodness for later. Thanks, man!

  • @JokersVsZombies
    @JokersVsZombies ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Path of the beast is so sick.
    Its my favorite sub class.

  • @kylesousa2051
    @kylesousa2051 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This actually made me realize that knowledge cleric would be a great 1 level dip for a druid to get expert Nature and Religion/Arcana

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  • @Revanaught
    @Revanaught ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I got to play a way of the ascendant dragon monk for 2 sessions before the OGL thing and our group switched to Pathfinder. It was a lot of fun. The breath weapon is pretty underpowered but the flavor is so cool, and there's a lot of potential for creativity with them since most of the abilities don't eat your ki.
    My only complaint was the nerfs from the unearthed arcana. I don't know why they did it, the UA version was not at all unbalanced.

    • @leahwilton785
      @leahwilton785 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly, sometimes we just ignore UA. Sometimes it just feels like they take the wind out of our sails, and that's no fun. Because monks are known for being super overpowered, right? /s

    • @schooldramazaichangchun3520
      @schooldramazaichangchun3520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you are looking for a fairly similar build in your PF2E game, consider asking your GM to allow you access to the Dragon Disciple archetype. Note that the access part of the archetype only means the way to turn the subclass into a "Common" available choice. It's just uncommon for everyone else. It will give you a good similar feel.

  • @IcePho
    @IcePho ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I actually made a character that was gonna be an Ascendant Dragon monk, but ended up never being used due to our DM cancelling the campaign for a Harry Potter Dungeon game.

  • @Lrbearclaw
    @Lrbearclaw ปีที่แล้ว +6

    7:08 - Currently playing a Dragon Monk and it was EXACTLY what I have waited for. The character was originally a Brawler in Pathfinder 1 and had the Elemental Fist feat line (for fire) qnd this subclass brings that vibe.
    Add the Gunner Feat (or a bow if you are basic) and you can fly, unload your shots as you sail past the enemies without them being able to hit you.
    It is amazing.

  • @DSTkunn
    @DSTkunn ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wonder if there's any synergy with Path of the Beast Barbarians and Dhampirs with their bite attacks. 🤔

    • @MegaPokefan97
      @MegaPokefan97 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have to choose

    • @DSTkunn
      @DSTkunn ปีที่แล้ว

      @MegaPokefan97 So do you choose the effect of the bite? What about the damage die or the modifiers?

    • @ceanuceanuceanuceanuceanuc4320
      @ceanuceanuceanuceanuceanuc4320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DSTkunn totally depends on your DM but since they're both different attack actions despite the same name, I personally would make you choose which bite you would use. But having a Dhampir Beast Barb could be fun since you can bite then claw so if you wanna go for it then go for it.

    • @DSTkunn
      @DSTkunn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ceanuceanuceanuceanuceanuc4320 Awesome, I'll have to give it a whirl sometime. 😁😁

    • @cratorcic9362
      @cratorcic9362 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually, the way the Dhampir is written, you gain the amount of piercing damage done with your bite, regardless of the source of the bite.​@@ceanuceanuceanuceanuceanuc4320

  • @odinulveson9101
    @odinulveson9101 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Agreed on the list there! And as a fresh D.M I update the Way of As.Dragon monk and Drake Warden from FizbanToD, alongside the Draconic Bloodline Sorcerer from PlayerH.B, so ALL three of these include Gem dragon dmg/ resistance types/drake apperance aswell ( Force, Necrotic, Psychic, Radiant, Thunder ) which is obvious to me that should have been OFFICIALY updated in especially Fizban T.oD.

  • @aaronjjacques
    @aaronjjacques ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Our campaign had a knowledge cleric named doc ter. Kept using doctor who references had a sonic screwdriver which was just a multi form tool kit. That changed shape to act as any toolkit needed.

  • @OnyxheartWolf
    @OnyxheartWolf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I play a Tabaxi way of the ascendant dragon monk, the movement speed is crazy, 45 feet ATM, double that with cats grace, then I can move 180 feet using step of the wind and still attack at the end, 270 feet if I just want to run away lol; also, I found out you can use breath of the dragon as a 20 foot circle aoe if you use your spectral wings to fly 20 feet up and fire a cone directly down, really gives some avatar vibes when you pull stuff like that off

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  • @plucas1
    @plucas1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If someone does not now create a Hypnotic Gays spell, I will be deeply disappointed.

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune ปีที่แล้ว +2

    RAW the Knowledge domain are the biggest nerds among the clerics, agreed. Meanwhile Scribes Wizards with Cloistered Soul background are the nerdiest of the nerds.

  • @katpocalypsemeow4554
    @katpocalypsemeow4554 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have a pure Enchantment Wizard! Focused on psychic powers! She's inspired by Emma Frost and has been really fun to play. Love her =^.^=

  • @svearaldblood-anvil8403
    @svearaldblood-anvil8403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used the knowledge domain with the OneDnD cleric. With the knowledge domain's expertise and the holy order (scholar), at lvl 15, i had a +12 in 4 skills, investigation, nature, arcana and history, it was insane

  • @ArcaneEntertainmentProductions
    @ArcaneEntertainmentProductions ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dunno if you touched on this in an earlier part of this "series", but... Way of the Shadow is like REALLY cool to play if you're multiclassing Rogue with Monk.

  • @derekstein6193
    @derekstein6193 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a feeling that the College of Spirits bard and Grim Hallow's College of Requiems bard would be a great duo.

    • @WD_Gaster66
      @WD_Gaster66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      College of Tragedy from Wildemount and you got a theater play.

  • @ChristnThms
    @ChristnThms ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love that you started out with the Knowledge domain. With the baseline Cleric abilities, it's impossible to build a useless Cleric, but they tend to be strongest in combat. Knowledge domain goes a long ways toward filling in the non-combat portion of their toolbox.

  • @redemption101caleb
    @redemption101caleb ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The beast barb would be fun as a simic hybrid

  • @watcherknight8760
    @watcherknight8760 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What's nice about Hypnotic Gaze is that it isn't really limited at all, if the creature succeeds their saving throw or the effect ends it can't be used on them again for a certain amount of time, but you can just try it again on a different creature, and you can do that over and over again at no cost, it's basically an infinite mini hypnotic pattern that requires your action to keep up but DOESN'T require your concentration!

    • @kailae3269
      @kailae3269 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They only need to hear you too, which means you can be invisible when you attempt it

    • @JuckiCZ
      @JuckiCZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kailae3269 Indeed! And because this ability is neither spell nor attack, your Invisibility doesn't end when you use Hypnotic Gaze!

    • @kailae3269
      @kailae3269 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JuckiCZ that’s kinda iffy depends on dm. I’d rule it’s an attack

    • @JuckiCZ
      @JuckiCZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kailae3269 It is not.
      Each attack has attack roll. There are also special attacks like Grapple, Shove, but they are all described as attacks.
      Hypnotic gaze is neither attack nor spell. Discussion in this matter is really difficult, because it is really clear.
      It can be indeed home brewed by DM, but if we use RAW, it won’t end Invisibility spell.

  • @ryadinstormblessed8308
    @ryadinstormblessed8308 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the Dragon Monk! Played one recently and had a great time, though it was only the Phandelver module, so only reached level 5 right at the end. Looking forward to a chance to continue with that character.

  • @jasminebryant4238
    @jasminebryant4238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fwiw, dragon strike is a bad ability or the equivalence of nothing. Magical Bludgeoning is far more reliable, so unless you know the creature has vulnerability to one of those types, you should never use it after level 6.
    That ability should have just added elemental damage...maybe PB once per turn like the Genie Warlock

  • @richardbudge9416
    @richardbudge9416 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally, someone else appreciates ascendent dragon monks. I don't know why people don't use them more, as the damage selection for you unarmed attacks is great in a lot of scenarios, such as bypassing physical damage resistances or simply doubling damage against enemies that have elemental weaknesses
    (also the breath attack damage increases to 3 rolls of the martial arts die at lv11)

  • @themightymoose5047
    @themightymoose5047 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm excited for the regular content again! Here's to many more happy hours of goofy and blatantly broken d&d combos! Love your stuff Will!

  • @nachoquesoso947
    @nachoquesoso947 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Dragon Monk is so friggin cool!!
    to bad it just make it suck with the RAW rules.. a little of HB that give him a martial art dice damag equal to the pugilist its way more useful for any monk and specialy for the Breath Dragon attack...
    The Dragon wings also cost your reaction to reduce damage from the fall becasue they banish at the end of your turn..
    the HB version of this its 1 ki point -> concentration -> 1 min ... times PB. WAY BETTER!!

  • @larkermouse
    @larkermouse ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just realized that Breath of the Dragon is extra awesome if you do a stunning strike first, because stunned targets automatically fail dexterity saving throws.

  • @AkumaDiablo
    @AkumaDiablo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Broken Combo: Alchemist Artificer/Way of the Ascendant Dragon Monk Dragonborn

  • @jettblade
    @jettblade ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Creation Bard is one that is neat and underrated but is really underpowered. Having extra effects to you're Bardic Inspiration is nice but it doesn't scale severely limiting its power. Creating a item is nice but the limit imposed on it sucks. Making an item become a Dancing Item is really neat but it doesn't scale making it extremely weak. It has so many neat features but it is just really weak and can't do much with them.
    Another underrated subclass is Horizonwalker Ranger. It has two really neat features. 1 at lvl 3 you can use a bonus action to make all your attacks against a target within 30ft of you this turn turn into Force damage and it takes an additional 1d8(2d8 at lvl 11). This is a busted feature. It lets you deal extra damage and makes it Force one of the best damage types AND there is no limit to how many times you can do it. 2 at lvl 11 whenever you take the attack action on your turn before each attack you can teleport up to 10ft to an unoccupied space you can see and if you make an attack against at least 2 separate targets you can make an additional attack at a third. As far as I'm aware this teleportation doesn't count for your move and doesn't trigger opportunity attacks. It also gets interesting spells as you level in it and other niche + weird abilities. I know Fey Wanderer and Gloomstalker are way more popular but Horizonwalker can be really strong.

  • @spookyjosh158
    @spookyjosh158 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Played a knowledge domain cleric multiclassed into a battlesmith artificer in a campaign once. Will never forget that one, it was one of the most fun characters I ever played

  • @ZodiacLeopard.
    @ZodiacLeopard. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Way of the Ass Monk together with an Oath of Throwin' It Back Paladin...
    I wonder if there are more subclasses to make a full ass party...

  • @garrettk67
    @garrettk67 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm playing an ascendant dragon monk and I'm fairly certain the wings unfurled can be spent just on the "step of the wind" trigger. So you can also disengage as a bonus action if need be and just fly away.

  • @amendersc1650
    @amendersc1650 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *enchantment wizard reaching level ten and unlocking split enchantment*
    me, the sorcerer, who has been using twined spell suggestion since level 3:
    (for the record i get why split enchantment is better but still)

  • @Tinil0
    @Tinil0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...How on earth does "Ascendant Dragon" shorten to "ass"? That's...not how you would shorten it under any rules of English I know.

  • @raymfl
    @raymfl ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pact of the chain Warlock + Scourge aasimar... take the Gift of The Ever Living one's feat, and you gain damage buffs from scourge (while hurting yourself) but always get max heals from any spells or potions from the feat... basically buffs your glass cannon warlock, and means you can ignore any damage that doesn't insta kill you by just healing and not having to worry about rolling a 1 on your heal

  • @TheTrueFeleas
    @TheTrueFeleas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Agreed about enchantment wizard. Straight up my go to subclass when making a wizard.

  • @georgeclinton4524
    @georgeclinton4524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun Fact: You can use and maintain the Enchantment Wizard's Hypnotic Gaze ability while Raging. Another Fun Fact is that you can use the bonus action attack from the Fathomless Warlock's Tentacle of the Deep or from the Spiritual Weapon spell to maintain Rage if you do not take damage in a round. At level 4 (1 Barb/2 Enchantment/1 Fathomless) you can make your DM apoplectic by round 1 running up to the biggest baddie, hypnotizing them, raging to take half damage and then keeping them locked down until all the minions are dead while slapping things with your tentacle. Add in Armor of Agathys and Gift of the Gem Dragon and you can just stand there doing nothing, raging, while magic abilities dish out damage for you.

  • @XenomorphXIII
    @XenomorphXIII ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hell yeah, Knowledge Cleric is my absolute favorite subclass to play! Good to see it getting a little acknowledgement!

  • @crushcommando8637
    @crushcommando8637 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will say as someone who's played a beast barbarian up to higher levels, while it is nice to have permanent spiderclimb, I really wish the natural weapons scaled up in dice at later levels. For a base class that focuses heavily on big crits, it doesn't feel that satisfying to only be using d6's or d8's instead of d12's as monster health pools scale up. It makes it kinda awkward trying to use some of your class abilities while trying to deal actual damage.

  • @Commander_Appo
    @Commander_Appo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    (Me opening up the video to see if I’ve played any of these because I prioritise making fun characters over making good characters)

  • @AustinLindstrom
    @AustinLindstrom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wyrmwood making a big influencer push?
    I'm a total skeptic as to everything about the company, other than they make things out of wood.

    • @JKSSubstandard
      @JKSSubstandard ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the dice tray I got from them. If you follow them on TH-cam, they ramped up their gaming tables at the start of the pandemic, finally delivered all of them and are now making a big push to sell more pre-orders so they don't have a gap in manufacturing

  • @masterodungeons4666
    @masterodungeons4666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes knowledge domain gives you any proficiency in pretty much any tools but it does t give you the tools. You still have to go buy them and lock picking tools are t going to be in your general store. Also with smithing taking forever things like smiths tools, masons tools and leather working are pretty useless

  • @Commander_Appo
    @Commander_Appo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:16 why would people think they’re bad with a name like that. It’s like the Oath of Throwing it Back

  • @Neutral_Tired
    @Neutral_Tired ปีที่แล้ว +1

    01:52 excuse you, that is a picture of Damian Wayne, while we all know that nerd Batman is Tim Drake

  • @32Loveless50
    @32Loveless50 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the beast Barb :D
    got a Fairy Best barb named Vips (hveps means wasp in Danish so a take towards that) :D

  • @Rakkun_Streak
    @Rakkun_Streak ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly, this just cemented my love for Path of the Beast Barbarian. I never really thought of the class being that interesting (except for the Wild Magic Barbarian, which is a treat), but one of my favorite characters i ever built was a Simic Hybrid POB Barbarian/Inquisitive Rogue
    The backstory was that he was a genetically engineered infantry soldier for a colony (they were all based on ants). With that build you could climb or swim whenever you wanted, attack three times per turn with the claws, plus close range sneak attack damage with Insightful Fighting (From Inquisitive).
    So, at level 20, every turn this build could deal +50 pts of damage every round.
    Yes, Totem Barbarians have resistance to all damage, but with a Shield and Tail up, you could reliably shrug off most hits with 0 damage and a reach attack.

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  • @CrazyAnimeGirl8D
    @CrazyAnimeGirl8D ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Iv been playing a storm barbarian ascended dragon monk multi-class awakened penguin. She has been quite fun to play and her story has really gone places, places I never had planned.

  • @caldael1
    @caldael1 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a great Video! Thanks for these nice round ups.

  • @tylerdavis6389
    @tylerdavis6389 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just finished a two year campaign where I played a College of Spirits Bard.
    I was a nomadic exorcist priest. That subclass is wonderful for a utility caster.

  • @Mallory-Malkovich
    @Mallory-Malkovich ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Making a prince sell you his prized steed then forget that he did it sounds like a good way to get hunted down as a horse thief.

  • @josiedavis3792
    @josiedavis3792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The extra cool thing about the Spirits Bard to me is that you can retain the Tale you tell until you use it or finish a rest, it doesn't require concentration or anything to keep it in mind you just keep until it's spent, I think it mitigates the randomness of the Wild Surge type classes by letting you decide how to use it. You can also roll it well before combat even begins and decide when in the day to use it. I'm kinda cheating in my game, I play a Spirit Bard that is also a ghost who doesn't need to take short or long rests so long as I don't use up all my resources, so I can just kind keep the tales for however long I want.

  • @Eliza.the.Smithy
    @Eliza.the.Smithy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I made a plasmoid beast barb who just pulled a flubber to get the beast traits a while ago but never used it

  • @stormy7745
    @stormy7745 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I absolutely love Knowledge Cleric - I was very sad when my dragonborn knowledge cleric died in Argenvostholt, but I might revive her if my vengeance paladin dies

  • @swifterthekid4727
    @swifterthekid4727 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love your videos and especially the ones where you describe fun and interestinf racial and calass combos that are fun to use me and my friends are just starting into dnd after wanteing to do so and our other frined is setting up as the dm and we start in about 2 weeks and we cant wait its gonna be a blast and i cant lie ive made several characters based off of your wacky combo videos casue i think they are neat love the vids thank you for getting to the point as well alot of other videos are padded with nothing burgers but yours are fun explained well and awesome

  • @crapstirrer
    @crapstirrer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait no. 5e Beast Barb hands don't need to both be empty in order to get that second claw attack.

  • @seanmurphy3430
    @seanmurphy3430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My party has both a knowledge domain cleric and a divination wizard. I have prepared so many encounters that they just completely avoided or invalidated, it's great.

  • @ziconoandrico
    @ziconoandrico ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the lack of gentle background music unnerve anyone else?

  • @Battleguild
    @Battleguild ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Magic Domain cleric is another awesome subclass.
    The spellbreaker feature at 6th level is very useful against enemy casters who have debuffed your allies.

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  • @ApocryphalPress
    @ApocryphalPress ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my last campaign I played a knowledge domain cleric which I played as an investigator. I was like Sherlock through the thing.

  • @ricku9487
    @ricku9487 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my college of spirits bard. Whenever I use my Tales from beyond, I flavor it as an actual ghost appears and hovers around me. When used, the ghost will enter the person that receives the benefit. Makes my spooky fortune teller, medium even spookier

  • @brandonkopp7569
    @brandonkopp7569 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first character I ever played was a knowledge cleric. The DM mistook him for a wizard a few time because of the high rolls in history and arcana I was getting. And that became the running joke in the party for quite some time.

  • @ianlamont9434
    @ianlamont9434 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I'm currently playing a half-orc Ascendant Dragon monk. What attracted me to the sub class was the martial arts cries the use when fighting. They shout out things like Biff, Kapow or Sock (I save the last one for kicks), so they are doing the verbal equivalent of the 60's Batman TV series fight scenes.
    That's right, I'm playing Bat-monk!
    His name is Adaam Ouest and his melee weapon is a didgeridoo which doubles as a quarterstaff. Oh, and he throws polished dragon scales like batarangs.