The Ultimatum is Netflix's MESSIEST New Reality TV Show
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- From the creators of Love is Blind comes The Ultimatum: Marry or Move On which is absolutely one of the MESSIEST new reality TV shows out there. So be sure to check out all my thoughts on this new series where 6 couples exemplify just how toxic (and messy) ultimatums can get.
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For my thoughts on the finale and a review of the season check out my latest video: th-cam.com/video/NiT6LUHXT50/w-d-xo.html
Is it a mess ? Yes . Is it messier then love is blind ? Yes . Did I also watch every episode and enjoyed the train wreck ?? Also yes 😏
So when they all swapped with each other, did that include having "sex" with the swaps? 🤔
Hahaha looks like I need to watch this messy show
Period 😂
@@FLo-jc7ig I think Jake and Rae did , and Randall and Madelyn did!
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Madelyn and her creepy friends were definitely fetishizing Randall and it was all very weird
I feel like they were fetishizing each other imo.
That one friend that has also slept with Colby was major cringe. You could tell she was undressing Randall with her eyes. Made me think of a fake friend that wants what you have just cause you have it.
@@eh1126 I got that vibe from her as well.
@@eh1126 I cracked up when she said the sex with Colby was not “rememberable” 🤣
@@LaNoturna hahaha me too. I can’t believe Madelyn stayed friends with her though. If a “friend” made that kind of comment about a significant other I would be sooo mad at them not only for revealing something private but also for putting down the person I love on international tv, I guess the fact that madelyn is so quick to shit on Colby and then be friends with people that shit on Colby says a lot about her 😂 😂
It’s so messy but it just feels more real than any of the other shows because I can see the emotion on these peoples faces, they care a lot because they actually know these people
The psychology is so much more interesting because every show with singles (bachelor franchise, love is blind, love island, etc) has just become a way for people to get social media fame and (at least parts) are scripted. This is real couples who have spent 2 years together! That’s crazy to me. Are these just couples who BOTH want internet fame? Maybe some of them but it feel way more honest.
Emotional abuse.Peoducers should be a shamed of themselves it’s making money off of people’s vulnerability.
@@josephpress1235 now that I’ve looked into these peoples social media accounts I recognize that it is just another bachelor/love island type scenario and all these young people were willing to trade their mediocre relationship for mediocre social media fame. Don’t feel sorry for these sad people searching for external validation (which ironically they wouldn’t need if they had fulfilling relationships).
@@josephpress1235 it’s not abuse; it’s taking advantage of their stupidity. That is reality
could you summarize this for me?
So all the couples come here who are not sure of their partner so they get into Tryout relationship with another guy/girl from another couple????
I love that April was the most transparent and open throughout the entire experience. She truly embraced the process even when it was hurting her the most but she stuck it out.
April is like the Asian Miley Cyrus
@@dee27206 wtf lol
@@dee27206 wtf does that mean ?
@@dee27206 omg. I thought that the whole entire time
@@dee27206 my thoughts exactly hahah
In the end, I'd call the experiment 50% successful. Starting with six couples that needed to break up, and they only managed to break up three of them.
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Only 2 relationships were broken up.
@@thelovelywhispersasmr462 Nope. Shanique and Randall also broke up for six months following their engagement. As of the reunion, they were trying to make things work again.
They will all break up eventually anyway!
@@NathanMellor they’re still together now though lol check TikTok
I've been shocked with this show the whole time, but loving every second. The dinner when they're supposed to make their choice was an absolute train wreck. I can't believe these individuals actually thought this would help their relationships or be "therapeutic" AAHHHHH HUMANITYYY
I agree. But I'm thinking they didn't expect it to be like it actually was (because even me, as a viewer didn't expect that so much of the show would be out in front of everyone with exes present and open talk about what was going on with partner swapping). Watching, I was actually thinking - thank God I'm single! LOL
@@CC12203 I agree! I didn’t think they’d be dating people right infront of their current bbhf gf
I’m assuming (perhaps simply for the sake of my own sanity) that most of them just wanted to be on TV and didn’t think much about anything else. Otherwise… yikes
Can you imagine wanting a proposal but than let’s live with someone else as the love of your life watches and spends time with them than if that’s not brutal enough watching them choose other men/girls to pair up with I really value the couples that at that decision making got up and said no way is my girl going to live with some guy.Ill propose here and now ,leave the show and work it out.A great way to escape the game plan.
“An absolute train wreck” 😂
Alexis acted so shocked that every guy there wasn't attracted to her.
Yeah i think she has insecurities about her looks so she overcompensates with a big ego money compliments etc
She annoyed me .. a spoilt brat. Her arrogance makes her look homely. But she hit the jack pot . Her man is nice
She just wasn’t attractive and there ain’t no way in hell she’s 25
@@LEA-yr7bb yeah she Look like she is in her late 30th
She hast this arogant vibe for me
The fact that Nate showed his ass at the dinner table. And then did a bullshit proposal because two women he was interested in didn't pick him. Lauren who was sitting at the table had she been focusing on him should have realized what was going on right in front of her. I guarantee those two are no longer together
That was the most cringey moment of reality TV recent history. Second hand embarrassment.
Yes! I’m glad April called it like it was
It actually looks like they are together. At least they still have a live wedding website
they are, unfortunately. In the reunion, Lauren gave in and agreed to 1 kid. mess. girl needs to love herself
@@jaqui1401 What!!! thats crazy especially knowing she's not in the right headspace to want to have kids. She might end up regretting that for a while
Alexis was embarrassing, I mean she went after a few guys and when she realised no one wanted her she put on a victim show to make her boyfriend bad-thats when he proposed. I also do not think Colby is bad for telling she is not attractive, her whole talking point was telling guys how much she wants money. I mean everyone thought she was a gold-digger and that is not attractive. %100
And he didn't even say "You're not attractive" he literally only said "I'm not attracted to you” he just kindly turned her down and was being honest. Her reaction was so embarrassing 😅
@@JanaBanana96 this! I wish he would have stood up for himself and said that to the group.
@@JanaBanana96 And She said it was the first thing he told her. Like she wanted to manipulate the truth to make Colby look worse 🤦🏾♀️ Like girl he tried to let you down respectfully but you wouldn’t take the hint 😐
Really soooo embarrassing....and she was asking from day one everyone how they are doing with money 😂😂
Colby had some issues himself though but I agree on Alexis.
When April did the reenactment of Rae dancing 😂😂😂
She was disgusted 🤣🤣🤣
I love aprils energy! That had me dying 🤣🤣
Madilyn's friends are the worst type of friends. They tell her what she wants to hear and cosign to everything she says failing to call her out and be like "hey maybe you're wrong". Madilyn was literally trying to have sex with someone she have developing a emotional relationship with.
Her friends remind me of the friends on the first season of Netflix YOU.
@@msnandimarie7023 DEFINITELY!!!
I think they genuinely felt that way, I don’t think they said what she wanted to hear. They obviously didn’t want her with colby and were like yeah girl we need to get you out of that mess and if you find someone who makes you happier then awesome.
Her friends were the worst but she allows them to be in her business and then they talked ish to his face.
@@nikkis7375 Yeah, I actually loved their energy cause they were having NONE OF coby's bulshite XD I used to think Coby wasn't the problem but then at the end of the show, I realized dude had some SERIOUS issues and I understood why Madi wasn't ready to marry him. They're ride or die friends and I'm here for the sisterhood.
They are all too young...and the women just want to get married for marriage sake but thats not a good enough reason. These people are not even mature smh
Yup. They're very, very obviously not people who should be making long term plans of any kind. They're obviously not sure about anything, they're not working as couples and most of them seem like they're together because of ether passion or inertia and both are horrible foundations.
Passion is fleeting, hence all the flip flopping. Inertia is pretty horrible since it's somebody staying in a relationship because it's less work than finding a new one.
And you know what. This is perfectly fine for your 20's but good God, do not bring the fucking government into your drama. If you both know you want to settle down and have a family, I would still wait a year before a proposal and at least an additional year before marriage, assuming everything is still going fine.
If anyone in the relationship has any missgivings, it's a hard no on the making it official.
Yes and that's exactly why they are here coz if they were mature, they wouldn't give ultimatums 😂
The maturity may be a thing for these couples specifically. I was married at 23 and it’ll be 29 years this Dec, so it can work for people at their ages.
@@alb5801 Not to throw shade or anything but 23 back in 1993 is different than 23 in 2022. The expectations and responsibilities of a 23 yr old now are different, at least in Western culture.
@@meikoblock exactlyyyy
I feel like Rae took this opportunity to give her a reason to break up with Zay. She couldn’t name one thing she liked about him prior lol.
Agreed 💯
I don't trust Rae at all. She's a total bitch. Like, seriously, she is the one who gave her boyfriend Zay the ultimatum and in the end when she knows her boyfriend is ready to get engaged, she then pissed off. She's a total bitch. I know her type, there's alot. She met Jake for one week and she changed her mind quickly and give up quickly on Zay after her 2 years relationship with Zay. I didn't trust her at all. She's just playing a game on Zay.
But then again the ITM were recorded after they wrapped shooting
She wanted to breakup with Zay long time ago and when he left and came in at 8am was the perfect opportunity...
Exactly like girl bye...shoot I'll take him lol
Madlyn was messy she acted like she was drunk the entire time like she had 1 too many vodka shots
She's 24 and on a silly show. Probably coping! 🤣
Yeah....and I can't stand her fake raspy voice. She's a drunk and a drama queen.
She’s a legit mess 😂😭😭
I love how nick and Vanessa are just projecting their relationship issues onto the contestants.
I noticed that! Same thing on Love is Blind. Whenever there was drama between the couples, Vanessa would always say “I remember when Nick and I…” “Nick and I went through the same things…” “I had to give Nick an ultimatum too…”
It’s advice at least that’s how I take it when they bring in their relationship issues from the past
Vanessa is a head case! That woman made a career out of projecting her crap onto people. Check out the show she did about inner beauty..
@@yourlittlesecret7575 right! I felt like they bragged/spoke about their relationship at every given chance. Cringe.
Can we all agree, none of them should be getting married? 😬🤦♀️
Certainly not reproducing that's for sure
None of them should not even be thinking of marriage, it is a lifelong commitment and it’s Not about trying to change someone or what they need to work on we are who we are and if two people love each other despite their differences those are things you both have to work on together as a couple and build a healthy and strong foundation for that next step & with love & respect toward each other and working as a team and growing together as a couple & not be in a rush and let things happen naturally.
TBH I liked this show a lot mainly because they were honest like soooo brutally honest and I loved that about the couples. I doubt that any relationship would really work out from this show.
Lol i just love trainwrecks this seems right up my alle6
Alley*
Totally agree
Alexis looks like Jeffrey star…
Colby is the “nice guy” you gotta watch out for as it’s all an act and he’s good at playing the part.
Haha Colby is just an unlettered Joe Goldberg from “You”
That's rude
Facts!
😂😂😂😂
More people need to talk about Nate and Lauren. How about the fact that Nate had several choices that he wanted to pursue but when all of the were chosen or not interested, he waited until Lauren was about to say yes to Colby to pull a total desperation move and propose to Lauren. To me, this seemed like a massive control move from Nate saying “if I can’t go through this experiment with who I want then why should you be able to?” And I don’t know which is more fucking stupid, Nate for pulling that dumb shit or Lauren for actually saying yes despite repeating over and over that the kids thing was a deal breaker.
Right. The fact that he was so defensive & thought he got "pure intentions" & April words are bullshit. That guy full of crap
Personally I thought it was funnier when Hunter did his proposal because Alexis went into this acting her #%$^ didn't stink and the dynamic screamed that he's her doormat that likely thought she could do better. Then she starts lashing out when she realizes the other guys want nothing to do her presumably because they've heard her talk for longer than 5 minutes so theoretically it should've been able to give Hunter some power in the relationship which he immediately chucks into the fire by proposing to her anyway. Alexis' reaction is honestly pretty accurate because it makes absolutely no sense.
I feel like Lauren is the bigger idiot because she still went through with the engagement even after seeing Nate get rejected left, right and center by the other women and them telling Lauren what a douchenozzle he is.
@Derek Johns completely agree with you... lol I laughed at the Lauren part
Maybe she will see the show after the fact and realize he only proposed to her because he didn’t want Colby to get with her and I’m sure she would of slept with him! I bet he didn’t even marry her😅
I started out liking Colby because right from the first sec Madlyn just shows how much she hates him. But also because I thought he was being honest and upfront withAlexis by telling her he wasn’t attracted to her and didn’t see a future….so she could turn around and say he was horrible. he was horrible but not because of that imo. Would she rather he pretend? I also just don’t understand-u go on this show knowing your partner is gonna be “pretend married” to someone else but then get upset that they are. Like madlyn trying to sleep with Randall but then getting mad that Colby kissed someone. What?? Hypocrite 🤦♀️
I agree, but like, Colby dragged Madlyn into this and he's the one that wants to get married, than he's the one going out of his way to kiss another girl in the club, like what?
@@BifolikaDesigns oh yes! Good point! Honestly he seemed like a troublemaker throughout, girls n guys alike😂
I really thought what April said in exasperation after the 2 proposals on Decision Night was spot on. Why come on the show, if you weren't going to absorb yourself truly in the experience? I didn't mind how Hunter ended up proposing (although Alexis, I'm sure, must have been expecting a grander gesture of a proposal from the way she reacted), but when Nate proposed, that seemed like completely out of his own insecurities because no one else was choosing him. I agree with you that Colby was good to be honest to Alexis too. Just because she was offended that someone didn't find her attractive doesn't give her the right to tell everyone he's a bad person...
@@BifolikaDesigns I think Colby didn’t do wrong because they were supposed to be with other partners and he and April were just leftovers so a kiss at a club is nothing really. Everyone else is having feelings and the least Colby and April could do was just get something out at the club. Which they both didn’t even like anyway.
@@BifolikaDesigns do you not realize what show this is. Once you’re single you can do what you please. Not justifying it. She came into this before they became single ready to pounce.
I hope for the second season, they chose folks who are older and more mature. There's still plenty of opportunity for mess without the cringe "I want you to stand in the corner and miss me" types of conversations.
Agreed. And there was a ton of drunken behavior that probably would have been more muted with mature folks.
Agreed. I felt like these people didn't have a lot of depth. Maybe that's unfair of me but I think it would be interesting to tackle partners who are maybe on second marriages or who have kids or other stakes.
It’s fake
yeah I was surprised how most of the cast are in their early 20s and they wanna get married and have kids already. still a lot of maturing to do
Because older people are too mature to want to be on this show and ruin their already established relationships 😅
I wish Shanique would of said something to Madelyn .She was doing way tooo much !!
Right. I don’t know if she wanted to avoid the angry black woman trope! I felt disrespected for her when Randall said “ Should I just leave Madelyn by herself” when he met up with Shanique when she was upset after Madelyn was doing the most! He did nothing to console her, after being in a relationship with her for 2.5 years! Jake even as annoyed as he was with April, and as into Rae as he was, did comfort April when she was upset.
Waaaaaayyyyy toooooo much
@@alb5801 exactly..they'll am her angry and bitter
She had no problem mouthing off to the men but Madelyn got a free pass to say all kinds of crap to her and was mean about it. That puzzled me.
@@alb5801 oh she did represent the angry black woman very well, I mean she got mad at Zay and Randall for no reason like what the hell. I thought she was a very bad Representative of black culture because she was toxic
I just love how shanique family praises her like she is this perfect woman who does no wrong and is wife material and thinks randall isn't capable of being a man or being enough for shanique when he is the most mature one in the relationship. I hope they see how much of a brat she was. Lol
Such a diva!! Not in a good way.
And she was quick to jump into sex with Zae as soon as she thought she had an excuse - since Randall kissed Marilyn.
Randall ain't shit. He was literally badmouthing her to anyone who would listen, I think she has a lot to work on, but let's not put all the blame on the one. My cape been burned.
@@kimberleywilliams7802 she's definitely not the only one to blame but she reacts like a kid
Well I mean maybe the families gaydar went off? 👀🤷🏾♀️… but I agree she acted so spoiled the entire show. Walking off during simple conversations.
They should have included couples therapy for all couples. These couples have issues that trial marriages were not going to solve!!
What I liked is when that guy said " I am not attracted to you" to that blond girl and she didnt get that he didnt say she was not attractive but he was not attracted to her. I laughed alot when she started telling everyone he was aweful and told him he was rude. Jokes!! Ya gotta love the people who come up with these shows, and those who participate and all of us for loving to watch!! Lol
I know. Also his saying I don't find u attractive I feel was more towards her personality and not her looks (she is high maintenance and not his type). I think she's not used to guys not liking her or her looks ...imo
@@ED80s did he say " I don't find you attractive" I believe he said " I am not attracted to you" Did he actually say " you are not attractive " I don't think so. Gonna watch again
@@pmd1933 I had to look back too. He says "I'm not attracted to you". My bad. But I feel she took it to mean he didn't find her pretty.
@@ED80s yes cause she thinks she is the best most attractive girl. She isnt used to be told that a guy isnt attracted to her. Its crazy because she then decided to put hi down and cause trouble for him. Its fascinating psychology. I call it white blond woman syndrome, often they think very highly of themselves and become revengeful if they feel slighted. Don't say it isnt race etc. Its especially blond white women who behave like this. They think they are not wrong and every one wants them. Being told " I am not attracted to you" for her is a major insult. And she must take him down. It's a social phenomenon and happens often. Think about. Watching her I remember many women I have met like her before. Dangerous as all they have to do is cry. It's the blond white woman power, privilege of everyone believing them. Scary
@@ED80s thats exactly how she took it. She's a particular persuasion and used people giving her attention. And this was probably the first time she been in a company of men and none of them had a interest in her. Her ego was bruised and had a hissy fit over it
It’s ridiculous! They haven’t lived life yet for ultimatums. What does a 24 year old know what they really want . Half of these marriages won’t survive is my take!
They need to enjoy their 20's!!! Marriage is forever.
I was thinking the same thing (about a 23 year old being so sure about marriage). Marriage is LONG... wait at least until 35 OMG ;)
This show would be fun watching older people who have been through their first marriages lol 😂.. the young people who come on these shows , is only for exposure and lime 💡 light
Agreee.
Hunter's proposal was soo cringe my eyes nearly burst into flames!!!
So glad you did a recap of this. 🤩
Hunter’s was genuine, Nate’s was cringe. Nate did not want Colby with his girl for 3 weeks.
Hunters proposal was actually sweet
I actually liked Hunters proposal! It felt genuine and real, Nate’s tho....
I think you mean Nate's.
@@alb5801 lmao he was desparate this show is just crazy bruh who would sign up for this shit
Lol I'm sad two of the couples went home, because I think there would have been more actually viable trial couples (ie April and Hunter + Colby and Lauren) and then the dud couple would be Alexis + Nate, which I think would have been hilariously horrible to watch
Lmao 😂
If Hunter had gone with April, I think Alexis would have been a monster the entire season! LOL
Dud couple 😆😆..LMAO .Yeah that would have been more fun
Colby was psycho
I feel like in the Alexis Nate relationship, one of them might've killed the other. They remind me of an old Seinfeld joke when he realized he couldn't stand his gf even though she was basically he female doppleganger "I can't be with someone like me, I hate myself!"
The show was very badly planned. Many times they said they went on dates/ talked off camera and what we get is the same shot of each participants talking about their feelings instead of real action. Also all of the interactions with the hosts are very cringe.
I literally hated that the important parts were off camera. I really wanted to see what happened in the club with Colby and Zay. Hopefully if they have a season 2, they’ll do better.
They could’ve have edited the show better as well. It’s like an Amateur edited this entire show
Wasn't it weird when they began their 3 weeks with the new person that we hadn't even seen any of them kiss yet?
I'm so glad most of the comments agree Madlyn was a big problem herself in the relationship. She really tired to make it seem like Colby is the sole issue with his actions but the only thing I can see being a major red flag on his end is his unconditional obsession over her. Like dude, the way she speaks to you is so bad.
It’s like Shanique and Randall. In the way that Randall spoke so nasty about her and yet she was so infatuated with him to the point of possessiveness 🤦🏾♀️
@@povofpoa2220 bruh the way he spoke about her was justified, it was not nasty 🤦🏽♀️
Seriously, Madilyn literally was like bragging about how much she liked Randall from the moment she saw him. Like if you feel that way you should just be single and date around. You could tell she was so annoyed with Colby over every small thing but wanted him to change and didn't see value in him until other women saw value in him. She was constantly drunk and yelling at him and you could tell how much he was invested in her. And he did kiss someone else but she was trying to sleep with Randall and to me a makeout session with a person you're not gonna see again is not as bad as connecting with someone on an emotional personal level and trying to sleep with them. People are calling Colby a narcissist in the comments because he kissed another girl for Madilyn.... He didn't really explain it well but I think he kissed the other girl because he was jealous of Madilyn and Randall and he wanted to prove to her and him that he could find someone else if he wanted to. That Madilyn could lose him too. But I think once he did it he felt bad even though technically they weren't in a relationship at that point. And explaining it as an open relationship was probably the most accurate way of explaining it to stranger without breaking an NDA.
And are we not gonna talk about how Colby and April kissed?? Like that came out of nowhere and I feel like if Colby and April actually dated they would be compatible just because their personalities are so similar but also because they're happy-go-lucky people wanting the best from every situation.
I agree with everything you said. Madlyn was very rude to Colby. I don't get it. I think there's some serious family stuff with her. Also the drinking seems to be an issue.
@@msnandimarie7023 yeah seems like she's an emotional drunk. Like you could tell when she was wasted because she would talk slower. When Colby lashed out at dinner with her friends, I don't blame him. He was putting himself through hell for this woman and she was just drunk trying to get her friends to give her an excuse to leave.
And he reminds me of my husband. Straightforward and understanding and not an overly emotional person and Madilyn is the opposite. Super emotional and wanting to talk about everything. When they moved past their issue she HAD to bring it up because if he didn't say exactly what she wanted to her he was an awful boyfriend. Marriage requires forgiveness and understanding. If he apologized and explained his feelings then accept it and forgive him or don't and leave him. But once she forgave him she didn't need to bring it up again and that's where I see his frustration. Madilyn isn't ready for marriage especially not to him.
That kiss between April and Colby looked completely staged. It looked like they had no chemistry and the producers told them to kiss. maybe as part of the show it was agreed by all parties that during the trial marriage partners had to kiss as part of the show.
Madlyn wants to be single and wants men to lust after her. There is no way she should be married at this point of her life. It is a mystery what Colby sees in her and why he wants to marry her right now.
Maybe in a few years Madlyn will want to settle down but it isn’t right now and it isn’t with Colby.
It was interesting that on the last night together with their other choices, it seemed like some of them might have been like "what the heck- it's my last chance to be with someone else before going back, so why not?" (Especially with Shonique - maybe because she didn't want to go back to her guy if he had also "experimented.") So many gray lines in this show!
The show popped up on my Netflix recommendations and I thought “hmmm maybe. But I mean what if bachelor fantake does a video to save me from actually watching it..” and you did!!! Thank you!!!
Yeeess! So happy he did this recap saved me from watching!!!
This show just seems like a way to play on peoples insecurities
It's low key great entertainment, even though it's messed up.
BINGO! Find the secure attachment in the haystack.
Madelyn is messssy and very rude. Maybe she’s just very blunt in situations I don’t know but she’s my least favorite. She’s the type of person I wouldn’t want to be around when drinking.
Zay has a lot of issues to sort out. He is a nice guy but he’s clearly dealing with his childhood trauma and is really defensive about it. He doesn’t wanna listen to what other people has to say if he doesn’t like it and decides to walk away. I mean its really hard to communicate with someone who just walks away.
I agree with the first half but tbh no .. he walks away because he can't express how he feels about certain situations. For example, when Zay and Shanique butted-heads, he asked her why she was making those rude face expressions ... she got defensive, rude, and disrespectful. Her attitude was disgusting but I liked how he tried to get an understanding and communicated with her. Another example, when Zay tried to talk to Rae .. she was super irritated & nasty, she never really liked or loved him .. she didn't even try to connect with him, so I 100% disagree. I love Zay, he was true to himself and knew what he wanted .. Shanique & Rae are toxic asf, they need to work on themselves, Zay also.
@@lyasiahymen7881 Zay deserves someone who loves him tbh
@@lyasiahymen7881 exactly he isn’t perfect himself but it really frustrates me because I could totally see how he was trying to go out of what looked like his norm to try and communicate and figure out what’s wrong . He was open and honest that he was jealous seeing her with another man but left it as it was because what was he going to do really . I feel like Rae honestly should’ve told him straight tf up .. I felt happier and connected with someone I just met in 3 weeks than I have recently with you and we’ve been together for two years . She could never give him a straight up answer about if she could see them moving past issues . And gets upset when he doesn’t want to speak to her hell that man even cried in front of her with her mom . She victimizes herself without even seeing it . And Shanique was never going to be able to connect with anyone else other than Randall it was very obvious a hot mess .
@@lyasiahymen7881 exaaaaaaactly. He is literally put in situations with other ppl who can’t communicate, I don’t think all of that is on him. This man was BEGGING to just have one conversation where both of them can talk freely without attitude
@@lyasiahymen7881 yeah I agree that Shanique and Rae were toxic but I'm talking about the part where he goes to Shanique to talk about Rae and she was trying to point out his weakness and talk about his trauma and he just walked out. I hope he could get past this or else his next relationship maybe the same. I wish him the best.
Madelyn hated Colby from the start 😂😂
This show is Temptation island meets Love island. But I’m living for the drama, can’t wait for last two episodes.
The prize for everybody at the ends needs to be therapy!
YOU ARE SO RIGHT!!!
For real!!!
All these shows should incorporate therapy!
This is literally the most ridiculous reality dating show I have ever watched in my whole life but i love it😭😭😭😭
If you need to give your partner an ultimatum, I feel your relationship will be doomed for disappointment and resentment. Forcing someone to take a huge step they aren't ready for is a recipe for disaster.
Production was surely not expecting those proposals lol I think if this gets a 2nd season rules are going to have to be harsher/clearer so no proposald would be allowed. They where thiiiis close to not get a show at all lmao
Agreed .Nate saw the chance out and ran with it. They could did this without the show cause they left before fixing their relationship.
@@iamsoiexist7192 yeah, and the show lost 2 couples and their drama with Alexis and Nate. And maybe that’s why the show felt so long: 10 episodes was the original format but were expecting 4 more ppl lol
Did you notice the shocked look on Alexis' face? She wanted to remain on the show. That was hilarious. Why did she have a bachelorette party and not Lauren?
Probably the first season of any show is sort of a test-drive. The one proposal was nice, but the second was just ridiculous. I agreed with what April said about it 100% (and think you're right about better rules going forward).
@@msnandimarie7023 she was not expecting that either hahaha you can even see a production staff on the screen during that whole fiasco of proposals. Alexis having a BP and not Lauren could be that maybe the engagement is off? or they reached out and she said no or didn’t answer?
Episode 3 of The Ultimatum was legendary levels of messy. I absolutely loved it 🤭
Zay ended up being the person I wanted to be the most happy. He deserves better than Rae. Rae really gave him an ultimatum while not being able to name 1 thing she loves about him 🥴
watched it when it came out 2 days ago WAITING for the YT videos to start coming in! so messy, so good, so much better than love is blind
Is it better than LIB? I am soooo curious!
@@CARATMom I think so. it’s much more JUICY, it does more interviews and has better editing. Overall it’s the better show and much better content, but not gonna have the success love story of LIB couples. Lol
I didn't like the fact that all couples are comparing each other with the temp partners..they're not learning about their flaws and to work on them..they're just missing that feeling of being with someone who isn't their partners..which is messed up because the ones who aren't comparing are the ones who are getting hurt the most (shanique, april, and zay)
That last conversation at dinner between Shonique and Randall was such a game of chess...and I don't think that was because of the camera. There are serious power dynamics between those two. If someone walks away at the end alone, that's probably the right decision for more than one couple (new and old!)
@@CC12203 you're right because to me they were all too young to acknowledge the wrongs to get it right the right way and too old to keep playing games with other people's time
I can't look away and I'm not ashamed to say it.
Madlyn and Colby are meant for each other and I say that for the purpose of saving the rest of the dating planet from them. It's hard to really dislike people who are thrust into this dynamic but they somehow make it so easy to do so.
I am genuinely confused why they are together. She seems like she'd be happier playing the field and and if she did it seems like she would use Colby as a shining example as to why she doesn't do relationships. Colby on the other hand just kind of sits there and lets her treat him like garbage even though it seems like he could get fairly easily date someone with better aligned relationship goals
Madlyn getting mad at Kolby for doing what she did just because he went a different route is stupid. Wow she's incredibly one sided & a narcissist. She's incapable of seeing any other perspective but hers. She constantly tries to play the victim, but she's the one doing all the wrong. She's toxic, drop her! Also Zay saying he doesn't talk to his parents made me burst into tears. He is absolutely the sweetest. My favorite one on the show. And Shanique is so beautiful I was in awe of her. (Dont know how to spell anyone's name! Lol)
Very.. it was hypocritical of her to act like that.. like it's the same thing but it isn't in the choice of the ppl that we're put in the show
I felt bad about Zay’s backstory but he does have the ability to be aggressive and that could easily go to physical abuse.. scary 🙁
Seriously, Madilyn literally was like bragging about how much she liked Randall from the moment she saw him. Like if you feel that way you should just be single and date around. You could tell she was so annoyed with Colby over every small thing but wanted him to change and didn't see value in him until other women saw value in him. She was constantly drunk and yelling at him and you could tell how much he was invested in her. And he did kiss someone else but she was trying to sleep with Randall and to me a makeout session with a person you're not gonna see again is not as bad as connecting with someone on an emotional personal level and trying to sleep with them.
And are we not gonna talk about how Colby and April kissed?? Like that came out of nowhere and I feel like if Colby and April actually dated they would be compatible just because their personalities are so similar but also because they're happy-go-lucky people wanting the best from every situation.
Zay is very damaged he’s sweet sometimes but the way he handles difficult conversations is HORRIBLE. Always interrupting and cussing the whole at first I thought Rae was just closed off because she was just like that but now I understand why she doesn’t speak up because he goes on attack mode every time. Especially when he wouldn’t leave Rae alone after she told him to get away.
Well Madylens friends hype her up and never mention anything wrong with her behavior, she's surrounded by people telling her she's in the right
This is sooooo good! They are all the worst except for Randall. He’s the chillest one. Madlyn and Colby are the absolute worst but they bring the most drama. Alexis embarrassed herself big time those first two episodes. Lol
You liked him after the way he was trying to convince Madlyn that Colby had done something while with Zay?. He was forcing stuff down her ears.
@@abhishekn9991 I really disliked Randall.
Idk he gaslit the hell out of Shanique and told her multiple times that she was the reason he didn’t want to get married
I agree with portions of that statement. Colby and Madelyn are the worst! I thought Randall was a sweetheart but he went way downhill for me with the switch. I think he and Madelyn smashed, I don’t care about the “ broke up” rule. You don’t have to F**k someone just because you’re on a 3 week break, take time to reflect. He and Madelyn were practically salivating!!
@@Hannahbanana353 Agreed, and I really liked him episode 1. The clincher was when he met up with Shanique after the girls night up. He was like we’re supposed to be fully immersed in this experience. I bet he was!! He had the audacity to say “ so I should just leave Madelyn by herself and come see about you” when she was so hurt by Madelyn’s comments about Randall thrown in her face. That really, really rubbed me the wrong way…expressing more concern about the chick he’s known for 2.5 weeks as opposed to the girlfriend he had for 2.5 years. I felt devastated for her, by his stance. Madelyn would be super okay by herself for the 20-30 minutes while you comfort/reassure Shanique.
The two proposals made me so mad. They didn't go through the experience and reacted on fear and ego. Alexis compared herself to madylin (that's a hard 25yr old🥴).. Madeline fakes like she wanted to be "heard" when she saw Randall she wanted to smash and would've have if he didn't reject her. Her thirst was so cringe as she tries to play a role as if Cobey is the villain.
I think what April said about the proposals was spot on!
Honestly if they come with a Season 2 they should make a rules that you have to go threw the whole process n not just purpose in the first damn episode lol
I agree
I was waiting for you to do this🤣♥️💃🏾. Madeline is fake. Colby is a narcisst. Someone get April a baby. Shanique is confident and straightforward except when it comes to Randall! She becomes like a mouse. Rae is a pick me. This show is a mess and I love it🤣
@@LK-rt9cb this is true, though maybe she really wants one because of her fertility issues
Yesss the way that Shanique has such good conversations with everyone else but then she is a stone cold b%^*# to Randall every single interaction!! It’s so strange!
Good summary! According to Randall, Shanique bosses him around! But she should have cursed him out a few times, like a lady of course!Madelyn is a bitch and seems to think too highly of herself!
I’m on episode two and I like Colby, is he going to get worse?
@@Alyssa684 so strange ‼️
Is it just me or are they all really really young!??🤔
...and a little shallow 🤦🏼♀️
YES, they’re all in my age group or younger & I’m like huh? They acting like they’re so much older needing marriage.
Too young and definitely not ready for marriage. They just want a ring before the relationship ends.
I was thinking exactly the same thing.
Nate was literally like "Not Big Cheese Colby😂 "
Colby cheese🧀
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also I notice that barely any of these couples let each other finish what they have to say, someone walks away, they cut each other off and they go around in circles. Even Madelyn towards Colby, he’s already all over the place and then she’s like wha?? And yells at him. The communication was so choppy and maybe it was the editing too but that was a big issue I noticed.
All these new Netflix dating shows just keep confirming to me that Are You The One is the greatest reality dating show of all time and needs to make a triumphant return
Yes! I miss it so much!
Netflix definitely should pick that show up. MTV doesn’t know what they had with that one!!! Smh
If are you the one wasn’t fixed it be a really good show
beauty and the geek is probably my favorite but it got a little stale over time. The people on it were nice to each other and it was awkward at times.
What’s that show about?
the show keeps talking about how reflective and therapeutic this experience is, etc. but the one person missing is an actual marriage and relationship counselor, but instead we got the Lacheys who have an invested interest in backing the show lol. Instead these folks are forced to figure things out with each other while they lack the maturity to do so on their own.
They're setting them up for failure.
They definitely should have invested in a marriage counselor
I came for the cringe and it has not disappointed! I hope you continue to feel better. I love and look forward to all of your videos!
Hope you’re feeling better every day Chris! 😊 I’m JUST about to watch the last episode of this so I’ll be back for your (probably spot-on and hilarious) recap!
He sounds so much better from his initial podcast, after his medical crisis. There is only ONE Bachelor Fantake. We are all here because he is the best!
Last episode or the finale?
@@oreggieo5036 the last two episodes are not out yet
@@dee27206 - Oh I didn’t realize it went beyond #8!
@@andyroo9381 what happend?
Madlyn really wanted people to make gifs of her exaggerated reactions. She was trying really hard to become a meme.
nah .. she was just drunk asf.
I never thought I'd see this many narcissists at one time...lol there's so much manipulative gaslighting trauma bonding fake empathy going on in this show...but the psychology and humor of it all is so entertaining. I can't wait for season two.
Being with the wrong person, energy and vibe can bring out the worst in you clearly like Zay and Rae vs Rae and Jake. I was the same at 25, a little brat, narcissistic and a manipulator towards my ex because we weren’t right for each other and I was immature with trauma I needed to work through and so did he. I’m with the right man now and I have the utmost respect for him, none of my shenanigans and I focus on having good communication with him and we’ve been great for over 7 years now.
@@gissellel663 Colby is a narcissist. And will be in his 30s 40s 50s you don't grow out of it.
Shanique with her judgy self and weird facial expressions was unbearable. Randall deserves way better
Shanique deserve bettter 🇯🇲
so excited for your thoughts! ❤ hope you’re feeling a bit better friend!
Watching your recap makes me physically ill , I genuinely have no idea how you sat through full HOURS of this. Godspeed Fantake!
I'm here for it! Glad you are covering this. Hope you are feeling better and healing well.
Coldby is manipulative and Madelyn is narcissistic...both is feeding their own medicine....She wanted to smashed Randall so bad she couldnt careless about coldby...she said he better sit in his chair lol....but Coldby know how to trigger her emotions and push her button...He turned that table around and now she all messed up...lol
exactly.. Colby went down the toxic route but she deserved it
I am psyched, you're doing this! When my husband got home I was telling him about this show. Told him I had just finished the second episode. Logged onto Netflix and realized I was on episode 5.
None of these people are ready for marriage, either together or apart. ESPECIALLY the couples that got engaged in episode 1.
I'm blown away by how many toxic relationships and toxic individuals are on this show 🤯
These couples either need serious therapy or shouldn't be together at all.
Jake and Rae are the only two that actually seem compatible and have a chance at making it work in the real-world.
I really do hope they choose each other at the end.
I'm calling it now; their couple name is *Rake* 😏
Totally agree
I feel so sad for April though. Jake and Rae do seem great for each other but April actually did so much self reflection and work and she has a heart of gold and no one to share it with.
I feel bad for April tbh she was my favorite she really seemed like she put in the work with the experiment but ultimately Jake might just be more compatible with Rae unfortunately
Trust me, you don't want to be with someone 100% like you. That is why opposite attracts. Jake doesn't know it yet but April is meant for him. They're just young and hot headed atm.
I honestly rather see him with April because when you really look at it.. Rae is not emotional with zay she doesn't even acknowledge his feelings.. she brushes him off plus when they asked her why do she love him.. she couldn't answer that question..I don't think Rae really knows what she wants and Jake's mom was right.. if you're with someone that's comfortable n not challenging.. you're not growing.. you're settling.. he likes the feeling he has with Rae because she doesn't press him about life expectations.. when in reality he does need to get a job.. he does need to figure out what path he's gonna take.. plus she doesn't know Jake like April does..
I was surprised to find I got into this show. I liked watching everyone's experience and interactions, with the exception of Madlyn. She is one of those scary women that always make herself out to be the victim. She says things like "I can't keep pretending I'm the problem", when she never once said she was the problem lol. She bad mouthed him as soon as she got there. Everything she gets mad at other people for doing she literally just did. She was mad at Colby for not telling her his experience with other women and talking about her to a woman during their break, when she definitely acted like they were broken up as well and didn't tell Colby the multiple kisses she shared with Randall, all while talking the most mess about their partner than anyone else on the cast. She was malicious in her intention while talking with shanique about her experience at girls night, as she was laughing at shanique being hurt about it. She was mad at Colby for "shutting down"...while she was behind a shut bathroom door lol, and she also walked out in the middle of Randall trying to talk to her too. All of her scenes are hard to watch since she is so irksome. I don't think that Colby is always right but I really don't see why he's so attracted to her. I'm glad Alexis left early, so weird she was still mad weeks later that Colby wasn't attracted to her, as if everyone in the world is going to be attracted to her.
I agree and Colby told Randall at dinner how Madlyn can get aggressive and mean with her words which she did with Randall the day before, yet Randall didn’t mention that and was like ‘’she’s sweet’’ When literally she cussed Randall out. idk what Randall sees in her. He’s also more attractive then her so idk how both Colby and Randall are into her.
@@mayra8358 yea they're both cute and seem like they're looking for a genuine and long term relationship, she should be so lucky lol. Nope not very nice from what I've seen of her so far
That Madlyn woman is not attractive to me, very stange to see Randall and Colby giving her a chance.
First of all Madlyn is NOT cute at all, she drinks too much, she only wants to get fkd, her friends hype that BS up, and yes, she plays the victim like a pro. Colby was dead wrong for not just telling her "yes, I had my own version of the experience for me because I didn't have a connection w/April", while Madlyn was up under Randall the entire time anyway, literally up under Randall begging to get nailed. Colby never switched up on her, he wanted to leave with her from the beginning and never changed his mind. Colby also has MAJOR issues with accountability.
@@janco333 AMEN! She’s not pretty at all
Most awesome show ever. Whoever came up with the premise is an evil genius.
Did I just finish watching the Ultimatum and went to TH-cam to watch something else? Yes. Did I immediately click on this video? Also yes.
Every single moment of this show gives me second hand embarrassment!! From minute one I was cringing!!!
OMG I swear I knew in my heart when I watched to couch sleeping scene that you would use this clip from dinner party. That man did NOT fit on that couch, my legs hurt just watching that lol.
I couldn’t wait for this!! Thank you!!
OMG thanks for the review, sounds nuts. Hope you are feeling better
I haaaaaaaaaated Madlyn
this show is so messy that last sequence didn’t even get 50% of the dumb dramatic moments
personal favorite “yes. i want you sit in a corner and miss me.”
I think Hunter’s proposal is so sweet, it made me teary… Nate on the other hand.. that was cringy af!!!
I am left thinking poor Hunter is going to be married to Alexis. He had father like vibes when he comforted April so maybe he likes being a father like figure to a bratty Alexis.
I know right and the fact he got mad at people like April who pointed it out
You know Hunter was worried about getting married to Alexis because he though "maybe she is only into me for my money"... Only to watch this show back and realise, SHE PLAYED YOU! She DID only marry you for the money. 🤣🤣🤣.
@@adamj8099 She does legit give off vibes of wanting to be some rich douche's trophy wife
Cause he knows nobody wants his girlfriend!
Sooooo glad you covered this cause I'm SURE not going to watch the trainwreck, but I want a recap. ha
This show made me stressed and I felt extremely awkward watching it
That dinner Choice was like Lord of the Flies.
Is everyone just forgetting when Zay straight up tried to sexually assault / maybe did sexually assault Rae??? We hear Rae yell "Get off!" after she goes into the bedroom with Zay, and she also says something like "you're not going to like it when I hit you". It's not okay to hit someone, but I think people are glossing over the fact that the video shows Zay physically preventing Rae from leaving, and Rae's vocalizations make it seem like Zay was on top of her.
Naw you over reading into it. If a guy really loves you he will definitely try to stop you from leaving.
Commenting for the algorithm because I just started watching and don't wanna risk spoilers yet. Can't wait to see your take when I'm finished!
I’m so happy these videos exist because I am NOT watching actual show but I still want the drama!
I was just so shocked that they kept putting in the commentary as the scenes were unfolding. Like Madalyn for example was still extremely drunk as she was commenting on the situation. Maybe they did that to make it look more real? It just looked so messy and uncomfortable…
Lol meanwhile they haven’t shown Nate And Lauren since the engagement, I just know things have went south since then.
Im gonna have to check this out now. Hope you are doing better.
They were too young to be married but perfect age for mess
I am glad you are covering this. I just started watching it and I love it!
The Laches follow up "the kids" 🤣🤣🤣 Very well spot on 👍👍👍 are you psychic 😶🤣
I knew I'd be seeing that first The Office clip in one of your videos soon as soon as I heard about this show.
This is pure mess! Messy Boots! Will be binging this weekend 😝
I am just happy you recapped this and that I don't have to watch the entire thing. I absolutely want to know what this is about...but don't want to watch it! So thanks my friend!
Damn as a 35 yr old I’m watching these supposed 25 year olds hold ultimatums already. They do seem like babies now from my perspective lol. So I had my baby at 30 and have been engaged & planning a wedding at this age has been pure bliss! My man is mature, has his life together and we’re enjoying the finer things life together. I partied all through 20s and so did he and now we are ready for our family, our baby is 5 and life is good.. so waiting another 5-10 years later made a big difference. But they did a great job trying to learn more about themselves, I even learned some new insights looking at their issues lol.
I think Lauren just saw an opportunity to get out of this shit show and was like “Yes! Please!”
The title of your video convinced me to add this show to my list. I love messy shows.
I haven’t watched it but even from just these clips, I kept wanting to say to them: you know we can all see and hear you, right? Seriously, how can these people just go back to the real world after this behavior is made public?
I just finished watching the first 8 episodes. So messy and I love it!!
Been waiting for this 😭😭 I live for your content.
Just got caught up... I really enjoyed it!!! now gonna listen to what Fantake has to say:)