DeWalt's New 20V Ratchet is NOTHING Like Their 12V? vs M12, Kobalt & Craftsman

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    Is the DCF513 better than the DeWalt 12V Xtreme DCF503? Or at least, just as good as? Some weird stuff going on with this one as we comapre the brand's newest 20V Atomic ratchet vs Milwaukee FUEL M12, Craftsman V20 CMCF930 and Kobalt 24V KRW 124B-03.
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  • @TorqueTestChannel
    @TorqueTestChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Correction, RPM figures given such as at 8:07 are RPS (revolutions per second). For essentially about 200 RPM vs 160 RPM. We're used to counting frames for RPM on tools in the thousands of rippems in high speed footage!

    • @evancarrick8
      @evancarrick8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just about to comment and ask. I’ve watched all your ratchet videos and have been confused and bewildered on all of them because of this. But now I know - thank you TTC.

    • @sage5296
      @sage5296 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this mistake was made in the previous video as well, completely understandable tho

    • @jacksmith2315
      @jacksmith2315 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wonder how the original brushed milwaukee will compare to the other milwaukees. Im sure its not as fast as the high speed, but torque wise. I have the highspeed n im not a big fan because its so damn weak. I know its not meant to break fasteners free, but as you noticed as well, any resistance and its damn near useless. Living in boston, all the rust i see makes it, well...damn near useless lol. Its not bad for installing fastners as long as you have clean threads.

    • @andrewcondino3191
      @andrewcondino3191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why didn't you compare against the Makita 12v or 18v? Pretty sure those tools have more torque than any of these

    • @Asmith-1111
      @Asmith-1111 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heads up, Kobalt made a new cordless ratchet. The ones that you guys tested are unavailable now. They have an extended reach version and a normal length version, I'd like to see it tested if you guys dont mind.

  • @PhillyFixed
    @PhillyFixed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +215

    The DeWalt results just further support my opinion that between the red M12 line and the yellow Xtreme line, most advanced DIYer's and professionals that only need light-to-medium duty tools could do most tasks with just 12v stuff. Great tests!

    • @galvanizedgnome
      @galvanizedgnome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      But Makita makes 40v. That's more electrolytes.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      @@galvanizedgnome XGT has what plants crave!

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ...but 12 is less than 20. So, like, it's less good?

    • @nateTrh
      @nateTrh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      As a mechanic, I can do about 80-90% of my work with an m12 stubby, ratchet, and driver. It's only with truck lug nuts and axle nuts that I use the shop high torque on. Can't wait for milwaukee to update their stuff honestly.

    • @l00nybin
      @l00nybin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@nateTrh my 12V Extreme DCF901 impact wrench can take the lug nuts off my Silverado torqued to spec @ 150lb-ft. I have the M18 mid-torque for the hard stuff, but I haven't needed it yet.

  • @powerg3824
    @powerg3824 2 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    For me personally, this category of tools is less about torque and more about size. These power tools are competing against hand rachets. I think even rpm speed means less then size. I bought one of these and never used it until I got the milwaukee with the compact battery. Now I use it everyday because it can fit into 90% of the areas my hand rachet does.

    • @jumpinjojo
      @jumpinjojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      *Than size. Not then.

    • @bigneek714
      @bigneek714 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@jumpinjojo wow, you must be fun at parties.

    • @jumpinjojo
      @jumpinjojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@bigneek714 Thank you for your support.

    • @johnpearson492
      @johnpearson492 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      100% agree, these tools are most useful as bolt runners in tight fit spaces.

    • @Patrick-857
      @Patrick-857 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      18v rachets don't make any sense.

  • @MurphyTheBandChild
    @MurphyTheBandChild 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I went ahead and bought one of the DeWalt 12v ratchets when they first hit the shelves at my local Lowe's. I figured that the smaller battery footprint would be better in the hand than the 2-ah 20v batteries I have for my compact drill and impact driver. I also don't mind having the 12v cordless screwdriver I bought as well, as that seemed to be the cheapest way to get 2 12v batteries and a charger. It's nice to know that I don't have to feel regret about not waiting for the 20v ratchet.

  • @GuessWho-uc5uq
    @GuessWho-uc5uq ปีที่แล้ว +69

    With all the 20v Dewalt batteries I have, it's not worth switching to the 12v version with slightly better results. As you stated at the end, just looking for tools that support my battery line.

    • @kylemaddox922
      @kylemaddox922 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Understandable, but at least they utilize the same charger between 12 and 20v.

    • @wiredforstereo
      @wiredforstereo ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly. These comparison videos are fun, but I already have DeWalts, around 20 tools and 10 batteries. Not gonna have one random tool of a different brand and battery.

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 ปีที่แล้ว

      The difference in size between 20v and 12v batteries is massive. You definitely feel the extra heft.

  • @toyotatundra0455
    @toyotatundra0455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you for testing the Kobalt and Craftsman. I already own the Kobalt XTR and I'm going to buy the blue box store brand. Thanks again. You guys keep saving money.

  • @clarkfos3447
    @clarkfos3447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great video! I'd like to see how the new Makita 18v XRW01Z model and the old 12volt RW01Z to see how they stack up against each other and the competition.

  • @boogalooslav6943
    @boogalooslav6943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    THANK YOU TTC FOR YOUR TIME TO SHOW US PEOPLE WHAT IS WHAT.. I honestly bet TH-cam takes a good chunk of your life and I personally wanted to say thank you because some of us are not smart enough or rich enough to buy multiple things to figure out which is the cats meow.. You and project farm got my heart

  • @jeremys8360
    @jeremys8360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Given the amount of 20 V DeWalt batteries I have, a few seconds in a couple foot pounds isn’t going to sway me to having to buy extra 12 V batteries. That was one of the things I had to consider in the price

    • @cj599
      @cj599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      same here

    • @cj599
      @cj599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      then again the 12v fit in the 20v charger and maybe can be had cheap as a kit around the fall when all the crap is "onsale"

    • @zorgzev96
      @zorgzev96 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here, I have enough smaller AH 20v batteries that any advantage a 12v ratchet might have is negated by having to buy more batteries.

    • @AnontheGOAT
      @AnontheGOAT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Besides these are competing against hand ratchets so there is no need for crazy tq. Just need it for speed vs doing it by hand.

    • @Evanturar
      @Evanturar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You’ve said it perfectly. Once we commit to a battery platform, it’s nice to keep all of the tools compatible.

  • @countryracer69
    @countryracer69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    A lot of times when Project Farm does a battery tool test my preferred dewalt brand ranks very good. Not always top but always good enough to keep me loyal. I needed a ratchet however but until recently dewalt had none! I was about to go m18. This test makes my decision for me as I have many 12V dewalt batteries because the small 12v drill is awesome! And I like less cost too lol

    • @jdmforever5583
      @jdmforever5583 ปีที่แล้ว

      Milwaukee Beats DeWalt hands down, in fact I take Makita over DeWalt...imo

  • @vicrattlehead1243
    @vicrattlehead1243 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i picked up the dewalt 20v 1/2” version. works great for heavy equipment work. been looking for the 12v extended

  • @EdBlack-
    @EdBlack- ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Picked up an Xtreme brushless 12v ratchet and 12v 3/8 impact, with a 3ah & 5ah battery for $155 total from home improvement store. Seemed like quite a good deal that I couldn’t pass up on. Was initially disappointed though when I got home and saw they were 12v and being unfamiliar with the 12v system and not being usable with all my 20v batteries, but after these tests at least I feel quite pleased.

  • @bmwfnatic5899
    @bmwfnatic5899 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I still have the 1st generation brushed M12 ratchet, I don't see myself replacing it with any of these, the tools and battery setups just look huge!

    • @kylefowler5082
      @kylefowler5082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here, when you are working on a car you want a tool that you feel confident will have the best chance possible of reaching a fastener without a lot of fuss. Milwaukee is the only brand that has that down pat with their small torpedo style batteries

    • @Meme-zc4cw
      @Meme-zc4cw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the M12 brushed as well and it is great. I am a Dewalt guy but bought into the M12 brushed line for simple around-the-house stuff. I am very happy with that line and their ratchet is excellent.

  • @2down4up
    @2down4up 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I’ve been off the line now (sadly) for over a decade but when I bought my cordless ratchets, access meant more to me then anything else. I would gladly give up torque if it meant a smaller head and overall tool. I can break things loose manually and then use the cordless ratchet to spin it out but if I can’t fit it where I need it to go then it’s useless. Of course 15 years ago there weren’t very many cordless ratchets on the market anyways so my choices were limited regardless.

    • @taylor2105
      @taylor2105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got the weak junky one from husky. I'm blown away by how handy it is. They're amazing, right up until the bolt is stiff the whole way out. Like old locktite or rust

    • @novavolks9652
      @novavolks9652 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@taylor2105 Do you recommend the Craftsman Cordless Ratchet?

  • @FordRanchero289
    @FordRanchero289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    So I'll definitely be buying the 503E Dewalt to go along with my Mac cordless ratchet

  • @jozsefizsak
    @jozsefizsak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative, once again. This is such a great channel!

  • @ss1970chevelle454
    @ss1970chevelle454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I work in the tools department at Lowe's, and let me tell you this is priceless information! I'm a big fan of the DeWalt 12V sub-compact line. Their mechanical impacts are great too, putting out more power than the base 24V Kobalt impacts!

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The problem with 12V is that it’s the same size as the 20V. Dewalt should have made it half the width for thinner tools.

    • @cubancigarman2687
      @cubancigarman2687 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I currently buy most of my tools from Lowes since sears has been gone. I started with the brushless leaf blower weed trimmer combo for 149$ with a 4amp hr and a 2amp hr battery n charger. I followed with a battery operated air pump. Next came the free oscillation tool with the 2 4amp hr battery kit for 129$ with double battery charger. I also bought a kobalt double 5amp hr battery lawnmower. I know ego is a better mower slightly but their battery replacement is like 289$ just by itself. All I can say is stick to the battery platform that you have most of because as a non work professional, the batteries are the most expensive disposable part of the tools. With the experience of working with most power tools, I can attest that the kobalt brand of power tools will exceed the needs of the do it yourself home owners. Seeing kobalt tools tested as not being the worst tools in the market and that they can perform the tasks is another positive selling point as well. I will continue to purchase kobalt tools as long as their warranties, reliability, and costs are very good.

    • @javelinsrfast
      @javelinsrfast ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cubancigarman2687 I have several Kobalt 24v tools and I like them. If I were still farming I would still probably buy them over Milwaukee or Dewalt. The warranty and less expensive if they are lost of broken.

  • @keepingdistance4404
    @keepingdistance4404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Big fat batteries on a compact space tool are a no-go. 12V Milwaukee for the win.

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they offered more juice, they wouldn't be too bad with the lower capacity batteries for work that isn't as space restricted(maybe chassis & suspension work rather than under hood work?) - except the testing keeps showing us that they don't offer anything over the 12s. I don't blame the manufacturers for offering them, some people just only stick to larger battery platforms and ignore the smaller ones(getting harder and harder to ignore them as new 12s are essentially competing with old 20s, but with a much lower weight & smaller size - they're actually truly useful these days!), so it makes sense for those customers.
      I'm just glad this channel exists so I know that the 20s don't offer anything over the 12s - I hadn't used a power ratchet(well, only pneumatic), so always just assumed that the 20s would be 'OK' and the 12s would be 'useless'. Good to know that the 12s are actually useful enough to render the 20s pointless lol.

  • @sendit9129
    @sendit9129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm a diesel tech, and I have the Mac Tools Electric ratchet (created with assistance from Dewalt, uses dewalt 12v batteries), and I can honestly say I don't think theres another ratchet on the market that I would choose over it. The head size, length, and ESPECIALLY the trigger style/control are absolutely perfect for the auto industry in my opinion. I have air ratchets with the "flap" style trigger seen on some of the other examples here and they're terrible to use when you're trying to snake around harnesses/lines/etc because the flap of that trigger hooks onto everything.
    Obviously everyone's decision will be different based on their preference and what they use it for.. but just a little something for you guys to think on before you pull the trigger (pun intended) on buying one.

    • @sendit9129
      @sendit9129 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Lee-lb9qh had the dewalt been at option when I bought mine I probably would’ve went that route.. i love the vertical battery mount. I do love having the Mac one though, our tool truck Stocks both brands but the warranty and rebuild process is easier with anything Mac.

    • @bad1971nova
      @bad1971nova 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have both mac and the dewalt 12v 3/8. And the dewalt is hands down more powerful then the mac. Usually with the mac I would have to go in with a ratchet and finish tightening up the nut or bolt, but with the dewalt its got way more torque.

    • @camerone397
      @camerone397 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bad1971nova how do the head sizes and just general ergonomics compare, having used both of them? They seem pretty similar in this regard just looking at them online but I haven't actually held either of them. I'm invested in the Dewalt 12V line and I'm maybe in the market for a ratchet soon, the Mac definitely isn't cheap but I figure buy once cry once...

    • @carlotv1212
      @carlotv1212 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m buying the Dewalt atomic 20v these comments and other reviews just convinced me plus I have like 4 20v Dewalt batteries so not worth switching when I just fix and flip cars

  • @jeremydoblinger3609
    @jeremydoblinger3609 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This channel is leading the tool market to make stuff we want..its great..also informs the consumer to not be fooled and get again what we want.thanks ttc

  • @dickearthskeptic
    @dickearthskeptic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for making these videos your channel and content are freaking awesome!

  • @mikemorgan4607
    @mikemorgan4607 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Speed is king with ratchets. Higher torque is a mixed bag. Mostly bad in my opinion. Anything above about 60 ft lbs is a knuckle buster. I like to finish fasteners off manually. Better feel that way. But that's me doing what I do. Folks who don't work in tight spaces may love the higher torque. Milwaukee just announced high speed extended ratchets. Good stuff! Keep up the great work.

  • @brosiffkev8320
    @brosiffkev8320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use the Milwaukee 3/8 ext at work”automotive”everyday! I like it the only con I have is the finish on the head chips easily. Definitely get the boot for it I wouldn’t mind the regular version the heads are bigger than some but solid unit

  • @jamesward5721
    @jamesward5721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I like the Kobalt just on price - they look to be good value for money - not fancy, but functional.

    • @richardmillhousenixon
      @richardmillhousenixon ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's my opinion too. And they do work pretty damn well, even under fairly heavy shop use. And the fact I can get a 5 inch angle grinder (tool only) for $10 more than I can get a 4.5" DeWalt tool only grinder, and the exact same price as the DeWalt 11 amp 4.5" corded grinder also makes it a huge plus for me. Not to mention that the pin wrench is stored in the detachable handle, so you aren't likely to misplace it like I was with my first grinder, which was a corded DeWalt

  • @jamesward5721
    @jamesward5721 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've had a Posenpro 3/8" the last 4 weeks. It was €60 off Amazon. Wrench & 2 batteries. I charged the batteries the day it arrived - so far it's still on the first battery on the first charge. Today the battery started whinging for more charge - I have used it daily for work not play & love it. Don't fancy changing it for anything "fancier" as it does everything I ask of it & has yet to even once "annoy" me. It's a brilliant tool IMHO and has now moved into "My Fave tool" category alongside my 1/2" Dewalt impact gun I also use daily.
    Just my 2c.

  • @harisjaved1379
    @harisjaved1379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh nice man! Two videos this week! Awesome!

  • @jamescrugnale2763
    @jamescrugnale2763 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the 12v dewalt ratchet as a Subaru mechanic. Great tool for the things I do!

  • @StanMisiano
    @StanMisiano ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know this is an older video, but I'd love to see an update to include the Makita ratchet in the mix. It's speed is almost double Milwaukee with the same torque. As well as having interchangeable 1/4" and 3/8" heads.

  • @historyhisstory6289
    @historyhisstory6289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All are damn nice!!! Here in Illinois most bolts are rusty all the way in and out. I understand the speed over torque for most. I need it powerful

  • @thehhoff69
    @thehhoff69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Can't imagine it would make a difference, but I'd like to see if the DeWalt 20v 1/2" DCF512 is stronger than the 20v 3/8" DCF513 (they have the same specs, but as this test showed specs often mean very little).

  • @galvanizedgnome
    @galvanizedgnome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is better than the TV I grew up with

  • @Ender_Wiggin03
    @Ender_Wiggin03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Downside to the 12v is I already have a 20v Dewalt system (slowly migrating from Black and Decker 20v), while I find an impact driver great overall, a ratchet seems better suited for automotive tighter space use.

    • @BlueMax717
      @BlueMax717 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That's the entire point of the Atomic line up. Basically give you the 12v line size but you can continue to use your 20v batteries. Dewalt was getting slammed a few years ago because they have a very large product line using a lot of different batteries. They have been simplifying and overhauling their product line ever since.

    • @NONO-hz4vo
      @NONO-hz4vo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't care how long you have been wrenching but you aren't going to out pace one of these. Now if you have a newer car and work on it once in a blue moon then who cares. But if you have a lot of motors to work on or bigger jobs that take 10+ hours the little m12 is going to save you a lot of time.
      If you are a professional you already own one or use a pneumatic because your hearing is already shot and you love the speed.

    • @itz5am
      @itz5am ปีที่แล้ว

      So you’re safe using a 20v impact driver as a ratchet, like for tightening lug nuts?

    • @johnjames5842
      @johnjames5842 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Black n Decker own craftsman, DeWalt, Ridgid, and skil, I think Ryobi too. The craftsman rp stuff has the same motors as last yrs DeWalt XP line

    • @johnjames5842
      @johnjames5842 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@itz5amI use a craftsman brushless drill/driver with socket bit for small bolts all the time , especially for small engines .

  • @1FaSS01
    @1FaSS01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    More compact= win
    I'd love to see all of those ratchets inside the engine bay :)))

  • @brockhunter2021
    @brockhunter2021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my dewalt 12v 3/8 ratchet. I have the mac 1/4 in so it made sense for me to go with the dewalt. I love it. I have alot of dewalt 20v but I just like the smaller battery on the 12v

  • @aaronkowalewski659
    @aaronkowalewski659 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I had bought the kobalt before seeing this channel and it's been a great reliable tool. Definitely worth the money. It can he a lil awkward in some positions but it gas surprised me breaking loose some nuts and bolts.

    • @richardmillhousenixon
      @richardmillhousenixon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah, Kobalts tools in general are very much worth the money for me. I could get a more ergonomic tool for more money, but the tools that I use most often (the angle grinder and the standard impact wrench) work great and they aren't bulky or awkward.

  • @KM-os4be
    @KM-os4be 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the testing

  • @DrunknOdin
    @DrunknOdin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As of today (10/5/22) Blains Farm and Fleet has the 20V atomic 1/2" drive (tool only) for $99! Just ordered on myself

  • @NoahTheFacts
    @NoahTheFacts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Fascinating. Although I’ll probably just get the 20V DeWalt because I’m already invested in the 20V batteries.

    • @serrethindustries9468
      @serrethindustries9468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. Sucks to be honest, but just having a battery on hand makes the bare tool the cheapest option.

    • @ganthore
      @ganthore 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 12v is not very expensive to get into (my opinion). I do like the extra variety in smaller tools that the 12v line opens up. Though the atomic series on 20v seem to catch up.

  • @thebigdoghimself
    @thebigdoghimself 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I'd still buy the 20v Dewalt simply because that's the battery platform I have. I am getting tired of multiple battery platforms, to date I have,
    Dewalt 20v
    Milwaukee M12
    Hitachi 18v
    Ryobi 18v
    and Ego and snapper for lawn care.
    In the end though, brands re getting much better at offering a wider range of tools that fit their batteries.

    • @FordRanchero289
      @FordRanchero289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But with 12v extreme dewalt, you use the same charger!

    • @thebigdoghimself
      @thebigdoghimself 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FordRanchero289 I did not know that!

    • @NoahTheFacts
      @NoahTheFacts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same charger is great, but I’ll probably still get the 20V because I’ll just buy a bare tool without a battery.

    • @FordRanchero289
      @FordRanchero289 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thebigdoghimself don't be scared to jump in the 12v platform, you'll be surprised!

    • @androidken
      @androidken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm so tired of different batteries too. I hate that DeWalt didn't offer the extended reach in 20v. I don't have any 12v only 20v. If I'm going to buy another battery system, I'm going m12. A lot more selection and smaller batteries which is kinda the point of 12v.

  • @georgeferlazzo7936
    @georgeferlazzo7936 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello again Torque Test Channel
    Thank you for another Great Video 👍 Have you tested the Harbor Freight versions against Milwaukee and Dewalt etc. I am researching for my next Tool purchase and power tools are on the list. I was looking at the Milwaukee M12 combo kit. Drill, impact wrench and ratchet.

  • @shooter_ric5722
    @shooter_ric5722 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only Ryobi tool I have lol. Love that I can point the head anywhere.

  • @SomeGuysGarage
    @SomeGuysGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I need to get my hands on one of these Dewalts :)
    Great testing as usual TTC!

    • @Evanturar
      @Evanturar ปีที่แล้ว

      For what it’s worth, I have the large 20v atomic 1/2” impact wrench and the small Atomic 3/8” ratchet. They are just wonderful. No regrets. I purchased DeWalt after reading many bad reviews on Milwaukee impact wrench failures. Hope this. Helps.

    • @SomeGuysGarage
      @SomeGuysGarage ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Evanturar Good to know! Which do you prefer out of the two?

    • @Evanturar
      @Evanturar ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SomeGuysGarage One is huge for lug nuts and larger hardware and the other is compact for tighter spaces. Like them both.

    • @SomeGuysGarage
      @SomeGuysGarage ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Evanturar Well, I typically use a compact impact for lugs (can consistently run them down to around a quarter turn off needed torque), so sounds like the smaller one is the way to go :)

  • @ganthore
    @ganthore 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Late coming to this video, but I'm not shocked by the results. Main reason why I bought the 12v version of the Dewalt ratchet, smaller / faster. Better to use out in the field when you don't have access to a compressed air tank. Great vid!

  • @thekma3476
    @thekma3476 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video as always. Have you looked into the Skil 12v? It has similar specks to the kobalt.

  • @nicholaszavala6991
    @nicholaszavala6991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you be doing a tool truck brand for cordless ratchets like you did with Impacts? That would be something to see. Great video!!

  • @davidfarmer
    @davidfarmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ive been using the older ryobi ratchet with a dewalt battery adapter. not super compact but gets the job done.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer my Snap on 14.4 rarchets as well as my all of my Milwaukee ratchets I have every Milwaukee ratchets including the Brushed great testing video wanted to get into the dewalt ratchets wasn't sure which though because I normaly always by each anvil size for convenience as a mechanic thanks @Torque Test Channel

  • @J.Wick.
    @J.Wick. ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have and use the Kobalt as an extended reach, strong option, and the M12 High Speed for most other things. Those 2 make a great pair.

  • @blongsta5
    @blongsta5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would like to see the makita with the removable anvil for 1/4 and 3/8

  • @chasecobb1872
    @chasecobb1872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got the dewalt 20v a few days ago and it's badass

  • @dougdoingdemos
    @dougdoingdemos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another awesome review. Thanks

  • @kswis
    @kswis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love the tool companies competing. Gives us awesome tools to use. Well done video as always

    • @chrisnuevoleon
      @chrisnuevoleon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And they say capitalism doesn’t work!

  • @acecabezon
    @acecabezon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For most folks it’s about value, not single-digit max torque values. I like the free lifetime battery replacement options.

  • @AlanDike
    @AlanDike ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Ok, is it me or does the Kobalt seem to be top one so far tested? Slower than some, but pretty fast, but cheaper than pretty much every one it was slower than by a considerable margin, and was the only one so far not to need help breaking some of those nuts free and having highest or second highest actual torque, especially with a 4 Ah battery? This surprised me, and makes me happy cause I actually have batteries for that lol.

    • @irvincasanueva3423
      @irvincasanueva3423 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I got the kobalt for 60 bucks brand new on clearance a month ago. 😀

  • @b-gill9224
    @b-gill9224 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video. Thanks.

  • @christopherbeddoe406
    @christopherbeddoe406 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just set asside my old Ryobi Ni CAD set.
    Bought a dewalt atomic set.
    Definitely can't complain.
    Much more compact and way more capable.
    Might still get lithium battery set for the ryobi's as backups. Nice they are backwards compatible.

  • @williamcarnero9595
    @williamcarnero9595 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would be great to add some of the various different models snap on has with their 14.4 line, the Mac tools brs038 which has been around for a long time and the Makita 18v aswell as some of the eBay china ratchets that run sometimes 4 18650s in a square configuration in the handle which I think is pretty rad and cool to try out

  • @TheCntryson47
    @TheCntryson47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is the 1/2 stuff in line next? Or has Milwaukee been the only one to make one so far? I'm usually pretty impressed what mine will pull off

  • @ek4183
    @ek4183 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before I buy any tools I always like to see if Project Farm or this channel has made a video about it. It’s such useful information if you want to get the most out of your money. Don’t mind spending the extra on something as long as I know it’s going to be worth it.

  • @packinwood2009
    @packinwood2009 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I use these ratchets on the job daily assembling factory lines. The non-fuel M12 is the best one I've used. It's cheaper, lighter, has decent enough torque, and good battery life. The most importantly thing though is that it actually fits everywhere. The fuels are just too big. This is just my job so YMMV but I found several bolts in one day that I couldn't get on that I could easily with the regular m12.
    Also the fuel version ratchets really weird. I think it does that so it won't rip your wrist off, but I didn't like the feel of it. Its like the same thing as the fuel grinder. It will clutch out and stop if it thinks the blade is stuck whereas the non-fuel just runs to the limit of the battery and motor. Pretty sure its a safety feature but its pretty annoying.

    • @BK-gc1jm
      @BK-gc1jm หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok so I will get the inexpensive 12m milwaukee.$78 on eBay.

  • @EGGINFOOLS
    @EGGINFOOLS ปีที่แล้ว

    First time seeing your channel. You've earned a sub from me. Clear voice and right to it.

  • @pablopicaro7649
    @pablopicaro7649 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have 4 Milwaukee Ratchets 1/4, 3/8, 3/8 long, 1/2-fuel all work fine..... but actually like the M12 2467-20 1/4 right angle Impact driver the most. use it with 1/4 drive and 3/8 drive sockets

    • @Sfhakrn
      @Sfhakrn ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here 👍

  • @chefshadetree3972
    @chefshadetree3972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm actually happy with where the Craftsman ended up. What more can you ask for with a 35ft/lb $99 ratchet. It's what I have and it's worked just fine. It's taken every bolt out I've used it on. And I use it on seat bolts.

    • @natethegr8420
      @natethegr8420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have it as well and I can’t report any problems, dropped it a good few times and it’s just fine

    • @Dannyboy-nj4wh
      @Dannyboy-nj4wh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not to mention Craftsman gave a 4.0ah battery with Charger AND RATCHET for 99$ during Holidays

    • @chefshadetree3972
      @chefshadetree3972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dannyboy-nj4wh why and when I got one lol

    • @novavolks9652
      @novavolks9652 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chefshadetree3972 So if you recommend it? 😃 I'm thinking of buying it through Amazon, battery and charger included, the truth is Craftsman convinces me

  • @TheSaw410
    @TheSaw410 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent tests finally found the data I needed to see it was a coin flip between the 20v Dewalt and the Ryobi HP since I have both platforms but Ryobi geared towards automotive and Dewalt toward finish and framing carpentry. I think I'll be going with the Ryobi HP.

  • @Krumm420
    @Krumm420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Could the 20V version have a long duty life? Motor / Gear duty life always comes into mind when I see tests like these.

  • @johnwood346
    @johnwood346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was very interesting to me as we have 12 and 18 volt dewalt and mac platforms

  • @iGameriOS
    @iGameriOS 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still waiting to see you guys test the Snap On e-ratchets. I have had a CTR7670 for the past few years and love it. I really just want to know how it stacks up.

  • @pablopicaro7649
    @pablopicaro7649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    actually like the M12 2467-20 1/4 right angle Impact driver the most. use it with 1/4 drive and 3/8 drive sockets

  • @jfcalix
    @jfcalix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks I’m a dewalt fan but I didn’t know this tool exist

  • @fkbiden6990
    @fkbiden6990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have had real good luck with my kobalt it’s done everything so far i use it every day working on utv engines

  • @JPT82
    @JPT82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked your video thank you for doing Kobalt test, all my power tools are Kobalt, and so are a lot of my hand tools.

  • @jtking96
    @jtking96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you test some corded impact wrenches? Seems like they would be a good option for the occasional-use home gamer. No batteries to keep charged if you’re not using it often, maybe more power for your money, etc.

  • @dylan-nguyen
    @dylan-nguyen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just got the M12 high speed 3/8” for almost half off at HD 😁😁

  • @tecgeetech1304
    @tecgeetech1304 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am thinking of buying a ratchet and your review is helping with that decision. but I am wondering if the 1/2 20v version of the dewalt would have the same results as the 3/8 20v of being slower then the 12v 3/8 version on your run?

  • @SuperTintop
    @SuperTintop ปีที่แล้ว

    “Torque Death” - great first album

  • @markdatoolman9798
    @markdatoolman9798 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    O'Reilly's Auto parts power torque ratchet and impact they're 12 volt and 20 volt line and they have a 12 volt 3/8 in and then a 20 volt impact wrench half inch looks like just like a Milwaukee

  • @nic8810
    @nic8810 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review

  • @adamasher5589
    @adamasher5589 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would love to see the snap on lineup tested. Everyone in my shop is using the snap on ones but there is no chance I’ll spend $500+ on a starter kit when I already have a dewalt ecosystem. Regardless I will be buying the dewalt 12v but I am still interested it a comparison. (Starter kit only includes one ratchet and two 2ah battery’s, $330-450 for just the tool)…

  • @MattL.-KE0SAW
    @MattL.-KE0SAW ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do one on impact air ratchets vs regular air ratchets.

  • @pablopicaro7649
    @pablopicaro7649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have 4 Milwakee M12 Wratchets 1/4 3/8 1/2-fuel and the long reach 3/8

  • @coltonshutt4414
    @coltonshutt4414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next you should test Snap on and Matco cordless ratchets. I just picked up the Matco ratchet and it’s a powerhouse.

  • @lightjedi6
    @lightjedi6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And in case I haven't requested this before, I would really like to see impact drivers compared to the hydraulic gear drivers.
    I seriously use my m12 surge for just about everything any more, it's the perfect balance between noise, size and power.
    Predominantly I use it for 2.5" #10 wood screws and sheet metal screws.
    I'm a plumber, so when I'm installing screws to brace something, power means a lot less, because I'm installing 2-6 wood screws at the highest and any number of sheet metal screws.

    • @TorqueTestChannel
      @TorqueTestChannel  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      See the flex impact driver, they dont like being dyno'd

  • @lightjedi6
    @lightjedi6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May I step in and request that you test 90 degree adapters? They are meant for impact drivers (most of them!) And they really shouldn't be compared to ratchets.
    However, I'd love to see the winner amongst the adapters put through the gauntlet while being powered by a Milwaukee Gen 3.5 impact driver.
    For science! It would be a mashup for sure.

  • @mtndogrally
    @mtndogrally 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Makita cordless ratchet is notoriously missing here.
    Need one of these to test? I just picked one up and don't mind lending it for testing, if I can get it back.

  • @MarzNet256
    @MarzNet256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was just checking out the 12v Dewalt one at Lowes.

  • @hectorcamilo4014
    @hectorcamilo4014 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those xtr batteries are no joke on kobalts, you can feel the added juice it provides.

  • @melgross
    @melgross ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprising results.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm impressed the Dewalt xtreme 12v is slitley faster then 20v Atomic being slower wow seems like a bonus for the 12v because is 20 dollars cheaper @Torque Test Channel

  • @libertarian1637
    @libertarian1637 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just picked up the 20V Atomic kit, including the 1.7 Amp/Hr pouch cell battery and charger for $100; it was sitting right next to the 20V Atomic bare tool for $200. They were discontinuing them.

  • @benmudn
    @benmudn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think the head size is the biggest factor. If the ratchet will not fit in the tight space, it's useless.

  • @dariusjonsson2358
    @dariusjonsson2358 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just picked up 2 of the Dewalt DCF513 in a kit with a powerstack and a charger for 100 each on clearance at home depot.

  • @livinglifemyway7349
    @livinglifemyway7349 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting test, can you do a torque test on the SKIL PWR CORE 12-volt Variable Speed Brushless 3/8-in Drive Cordless Ratchet Wrench ? or if you have can you share the link

  • @BigBear--
    @BigBear-- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why no Makita in the lineup, or did i just miss it on the spreadsheet? Would love to see you jump into testing ratchets, and flex head ratchets. Since you kinda already dove into hand tools...Thanks!

  • @danielcseszneki250
    @danielcseszneki250 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would really like to see the Makita right angle ratchet and right angle impact wrench tested

  • @salchristiano6606
    @salchristiano6606 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have both 18 v and 12v platforms and have found that the 12 may fall short on total power for big fasteners but on the whole they last as long if not longer, are lighter and more comfortable to use and in most ways just as capable than their big counterparts. When you pair that with the lower cost for tools and batteries you may find them a better choice if you are just getting into buying your own tools. The new 12 v platforms are way better than the 12v of old.

  • @tzahn0446
    @tzahn0446 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    curious how the snap on ratchets stack up, in the hand they feel pretty powerful.

  • @DadsDeerTrailCam
    @DadsDeerTrailCam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you swap an extended head from a different ratchet onto the kobalt? I realize it's already pretty long, but it looks like it's designed to be swapped, and with the extra length I suspect it could be coaxed to higher power figures

  • @TheAMGReviewers
    @TheAMGReviewers ปีที่แล้ว

    can i recommend doing bolt sizes M16-M20-M24, using nylocs, i'd love to see that as thats the sizes id use at work. i dont have big enough gaps to put a stubby. im fed up of air cables getting in the way tbh, plus i go to sites where it could be great

  • @angus4202
    @angus4202 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you test quick wrenches like the snapon speedwrench

  • @benkuhle9412
    @benkuhle9412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d be curious to see a comparison with the non-fuel m12. The head being quite a bit smaller than the fuel version could be more useful than a little extra speed

    • @dreece2000
      @dreece2000 ปีที่แล้ว

      It is way more useful but i couldn’t get it to last longer than a month. After buying about 5 of them I bought a snap on