Saw Hooglandia do a variation of this deck over a week ago. Difference is that he went with one less Sabrina and Geodude for two pokeballs. These changes reduce the amount of games with you stuck on Geodude as your starter (2 retreat cost is tough), while keeping you up on consistency. Yes, the second Graveler and Golem will never get played, but it's still worth running the full playsets to get them out faster.
Doesn’t this deck need to start ramping geodude as soon as possible? Similar to dragonite - idk if cutting a geodude makes sense - but I agree you need to fit pokeballs in.
@@micahleutwyler5806 Not exactly. The deck is built to put out decent pressure while stalling, so some games don't even need the Golem. Golem is just a potential finisher, and doesn't need to be out immediately. In several cases it's even detrimental to have it out early. You only want Geodude on the bench, and you want another benched Pokemon alongside it to keep it safe from Sabrina. Plus you can ramp it twice with both Brocks if needed (something you are discouraged from doing with two Geodudes) meaning it can be ready in just two turns.
@@micahleutwyler5806 Ah, but then you don't benefit from the ramp of Brock, and the efficiency of only using a single energy type. Decks like Weezing/Dragonite have major consistency issues, and Weezing is mostly ineffective at pressuring the opponent since it can only poison Pokemon due to skipping on dark energy. This game has some deep considerations to be made, and decks like this really highlight them.
Yeh i reckon that probably correct, i was going to say you want farfetch so you have better chance of having a useable attacker on turn 1. Guesss it depends how likely it is you end up with double geodude starts without drawing pokeball. (as farfetch can turn up as garunteed basic while pokeball cant)
Don't replace Farfetch'd, you need the early pressure. Suggested replacement for Pokeballs is one Sabrina and one Geodude. As someone who plays the Exeggutor EX/Greninja deck, you actually want regular Exeggutor most of the time, since it's often your frontline, and you don't want to give up two points early on. A split of 2 Exeggutor and 1 Exeggutor EX is ideal. You don't just automatically evolve them when you get the option. The regular ones are for early on, while the EX is for when your opponent has 2 points already, and you have to use some judgment on where you are in the game and what you can afford. Farfetch'd is also important for this deck as early pressure and a safer starter in a lot of cases.
That is first tie i ever saw and the point diff not even count. Im using poliwrath and always wonder what happen if i get ko'ed but the opp die to my ability maybe they should find way to tiebreaker when this more competitive
I love weird decks with not-really-good cards. Been running a Cinccino Weezing Dodrio deck rn, its hard to pilot but when it works it feels so rewarding
6:35 the reasoning for not ko weezing, is they are gambling you dont have your second koga in hand. In which case your unable to switch golem in to kill greninja and they can shirken to finsih of weezing next turn and get a free attack on your switch in.
Even considering that, it’s the wrong play to not KO. On a KO they are up 2 points and he would have to put in Golem for revenge KO. Golem will die to starmie and staryu attack for the final point.
@@nathe1171 Well yeh considering their hand their had a free win with your line, but i didnt know they had starmie ex in hand and had forgoten about 50 self damage on golem. I was just giving my possible reasoning for their play.
Seeing so many people wanting to cut farfetched from their decks us wild to me, the early pressure it exerts is so good against decks like mewtwo and charizard. I've had so many games against mewtwo EX that farfetched outright won.
Onix doesn’t get enough credit. A basic mon with 110 hp, and it’s actully 2 enegry deal 70 if you have Brock. That’s basically an articuno ex with misty. And your opponent has to sink an equal amount of resources to deal with it. Idk I get it’s a little slow but I think he can consistently make value
@@J3rr1ch0 Onix has some fierce competition in the no-evolution basic slot. Farfetch'd has the best pressure and Kangaskahn is a strong tank. Brock does mitigate Onix's slowness somewhat, but relying on a supporter to function early on in a game is a difficult place to be. I'd say Onix is actually in a decent spot though, since it's a reasonable consideration to play it, and it doesn't even have access to its evolution yet.
I think some players may feel the game is lacking because the F2P system limits how many decks you have for a hot minute, thus limiting the players ability to use a broad scope of the games content. Tldr F2P double edged sword
The f2p issues should be alleviated somewhat if equal value trading is not restricted, as you can then swap duplicate kirilas for dragonair or haunter (between my few accounts, all of them have the wrong parts of different evolution lines and way to many of another)
I've had no issues building decks as F2P. As long as you don't spread your pack openings among the the offerings too much, you can certainly build several strong decks. Personal ranking of pack value for deck-building is: Charizard > Mewtwo > Pikachu Charizard has several really strong Pokemon lines across multiple energy types, and all the supporters are great. Alakazam, Greninja, Exeggutor (regular and EX), Starmie (regular and EX), Charizard EX, Machamp EX, Kangaskhan. You can easily play multiple energy types for several of these as well, because they only require a single energy of a specific type. Mewtwo has significantly less variety in deck-building, and the supporters are solid. The entirety of the Mewtwo EX deck is in this pack, Weezing with Koga is a good stall package for several decks, and there are some Pokemon for strategies with a more complete collection. Pikachu is the worst for deck-building, and the supporters are very niche (though they do enable that niche) or entirely random (Misty). It basically just has one functional deck with the Pikachu EX lightning deck. Most of the other powerful cards can be described one way, slow to start. Combine that with a lack of support in the pack, and you will have a bad time.
@@Cloudedwolf07 Meowth is far too low of an impact, and you don't need the extra card draw anyway. Just having Weezing as a difficult to get through Pokemon and potentially using Koga to reset it gives you plenty of time to draw what you need.
10:44 I guess greninja can only target the bench (otherwise you do 20 to farfetch and force one of the golems in to take the 8 dmg hit from starmine) 26:35 ah never mind opponent in first time stamp is stupid,
@@ghosttoast9983 I assume that is referring to having Weezing or Muk as your active Pokemon with no benched Pokemon, and using Koga to return the active Pokemon to your hand causing you to lose for having no Pokemon out.
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That first game player used every single wrong water shuriken possible.
I think he purposely misslethal the last shuriken because he want to experience the tie
That Starmy deck player played so bad, he turned a sure win into a Tie.😂
Honestly use of Brock in this is very clever. I would have never thought of it
Wow that tie. Thank you for your service!
Haha Any time!
Saw Hooglandia do a variation of this deck over a week ago. Difference is that he went with one less Sabrina and Geodude for two pokeballs. These changes reduce the amount of games with you stuck on Geodude as your starter (2 retreat cost is tough), while keeping you up on consistency. Yes, the second Graveler and Golem will never get played, but it's still worth running the full playsets to get them out faster.
Doesn’t this deck need to start ramping geodude as soon as possible? Similar to dragonite - idk if cutting a geodude makes sense - but I agree you need to fit pokeballs in.
@@micahleutwyler5806 Not exactly. The deck is built to put out decent pressure while stalling, so some games don't even need the Golem. Golem is just a potential finisher, and doesn't need to be out immediately. In several cases it's even detrimental to have it out early. You only want Geodude on the bench, and you want another benched Pokemon alongside it to keep it safe from Sabrina. Plus you can ramp it twice with both Brocks if needed (something you are discouraged from doing with two Geodudes) meaning it can be ready in just two turns.
@@connorhamilton5707 gotcha, though it just sounds like you can replace the golem line w/any number of better 1/2 stage Pokemon for a better result.
@@micahleutwyler5806 Ah, but then you don't benefit from the ramp of Brock, and the efficiency of only using a single energy type.
Decks like Weezing/Dragonite have major consistency issues, and Weezing is mostly ineffective at pressuring the opponent since it can only poison Pokemon due to skipping on dark energy.
This game has some deep considerations to be made, and decks like this really highlight them.
Nice deck, i would just replace farfetch'd with poke ball. Have you try exeggutor ex with greninja? its pretty cool deck too.
Yeh i reckon that probably correct, i was going to say you want farfetch so you have better chance of having a useable attacker on turn 1.
Guesss it depends how likely it is you end up with double geodude starts without drawing pokeball. (as farfetch can turn up as garunteed basic while pokeball cant)
Don't replace Farfetch'd, you need the early pressure. Suggested replacement for Pokeballs is one Sabrina and one Geodude.
As someone who plays the Exeggutor EX/Greninja deck, you actually want regular Exeggutor most of the time, since it's often your frontline, and you don't want to give up two points early on. A split of 2 Exeggutor and 1 Exeggutor EX is ideal. You don't just automatically evolve them when you get the option. The regular ones are for early on, while the EX is for when your opponent has 2 points already, and you have to use some judgment on where you are in the game and what you can afford.
Farfetch'd is also important for this deck as early pressure and a safer starter in a lot of cases.
@spragels Why does your display deck not match what you used in game? You used 2-pokeballs in game - but you didn’t share what you swapped for them.
That is first tie i ever saw and the point diff not even count. Im using poliwrath and always wonder what happen if i get ko'ed but the opp die to my ability
maybe they should find way to tiebreaker when this more competitive
I love weird decks with not-really-good cards. Been running a Cinccino Weezing Dodrio deck rn, its hard to pilot but when it works it feels so rewarding
Congratulation on the rebrand! Can't wait for global release!
I NEED, These cards in real life.
The art is so beautiful
No Pokeball is such a bold swing 👀
6:35 the reasoning for not ko weezing, is they are gambling you dont have your second koga in hand. In which case your unable to switch golem in to kill greninja and they can shirken to finsih of weezing next turn and get a free attack on your switch in.
Even considering that, it’s the wrong play to not KO. On a KO they are up 2 points and he would have to put in Golem for revenge KO. Golem will die to starmie and staryu attack for the final point.
@@nathe1171 Well yeh considering their hand their had a free win with your line, but i didnt know they had starmie ex in hand and had forgoten about 50 self damage on golem.
I was just giving my possible reasoning for their play.
You didn't gas leak with Weezing before using Koga. You got the KO regardless but it does bother me.
Why would that bother you lol he saved time by not using the useless ability (useless because like you said he had the ko anyway)
Great deck idea. I tried this with pokeballs instead of Farfetch’d and had some fun games.
Seeing so many people wanting to cut farfetched from their decks us wild to me, the early pressure it exerts is so good against decks like mewtwo and charizard.
I've had so many games against mewtwo EX that farfetched outright won.
@@jasonjarmoosh Yup. People are really undervaluing efficient attackers.
What did you put in for the two pokeballs? Did you switch out a sabrina and a wheezing or something?
You should start saying nerf misty at the end if each video! 😂
Martianbuu posted this same deck yesterday. Except without farfetch'd. Are u guys in cahoots?
I've entered the pocket dimension
Region lock is back!!
Onix doesn’t get enough credit. A basic mon with 110 hp, and it’s actully 2 enegry deal 70 if you have Brock. That’s basically an articuno ex with misty. And your opponent has to sink an equal amount of resources to deal with it. Idk I get it’s a little slow but I think he can consistently make value
@@J3rr1ch0 Onix has some fierce competition in the no-evolution basic slot. Farfetch'd has the best pressure and Kangaskahn is a strong tank. Brock does mitigate Onix's slowness somewhat, but relying on a supporter to function early on in a game is a difficult place to be.
I'd say Onix is actually in a decent spot though, since it's a reasonable consideration to play it, and it doesn't even have access to its evolution yet.
I think some players may feel the game is lacking because the F2P system limits how many decks you have for a hot minute, thus limiting the players ability to use a broad scope of the games content.
Tldr F2P double edged sword
The f2p issues should be alleviated somewhat if equal value trading is not restricted, as you can then swap duplicate kirilas for dragonair or haunter (between my few accounts, all of them have the wrong parts of different evolution lines and way to many of another)
I've had no issues building decks as F2P. As long as you don't spread your pack openings among the the offerings too much, you can certainly build several strong decks.
Personal ranking of pack value for deck-building is:
Charizard > Mewtwo > Pikachu
Charizard has several really strong Pokemon lines across multiple energy types, and all the supporters are great. Alakazam, Greninja, Exeggutor (regular and EX), Starmie (regular and EX), Charizard EX, Machamp EX, Kangaskhan. You can easily play multiple energy types for several of these as well, because they only require a single energy of a specific type.
Mewtwo has significantly less variety in deck-building, and the supporters are solid. The entirety of the Mewtwo EX deck is in this pack, Weezing with Koga is a good stall package for several decks, and there are some Pokemon for strategies with a more complete collection.
Pikachu is the worst for deck-building, and the supporters are very niche (though they do enable that niche) or entirely random (Misty). It basically just has one functional deck with the Pikachu EX lightning deck. Most of the other powerful cards can be described one way, slow to start. Combine that with a lack of support in the pack, and you will have a bad time.
Longer videos?
instead of farfetch'd use meowth, so can keep drawing for cards for 2 stage Pokémons...
@@Cloudedwolf07 Meowth is far too low of an impact, and you don't need the extra card draw anyway.
Just having Weezing as a difficult to get through Pokemon and potentially using Koga to reset it gives you plenty of time to draw what you need.
that tie lol i thinkthats what your opponent was going for because they totally threw
Why not throw the koffing back out after koga? Because then if he kills far fetched you just throw the koffing in
When i open tcg it says access restricted why?
@@abhishek7840 Region lock is back in place with the recent update.
did you get any exp when you tied?!
It's not a good habit to jam all the spaces with whatever pokemon you have, especially when you use weezing. Nonetheless, nice deck!
Did you get XP for the tie?
Tried to reroll after watching tour video and now it says "cant play in your region" 😢 Guess i gotta wait for the global launch 😢
10:44 I guess greninja can only target the bench (otherwise you do 20 to farfetch and force one of the golems in to take the 8 dmg hit from starmine) 26:35 ah never mind opponent in first time stamp is stupid,
@@XenithShadow yeah - opponent just misplayed.
Theres No reason you shouldn’t have lost that first game
Did you get EXP from a TIE?
THE GAME IS DOWN FROM APK MIRROR FOR UPDATE HERE IN THE USA. Anyone know a link for the new update that just happened?
anyone can't log in? is vpn is once again needed? 😂
Tunnel bear VPN is your pal.
@@namenlosNamenlos thankyou for the reply, urban vpn is works wonderful too.. hang in there bud, just a week from now 😁
Can someone explain what the "koga forfeit" is?
@@ghosttoast9983 I assume that is referring to having Weezing or Muk as your active Pokemon with no benched Pokemon, and using Koga to return the active Pokemon to your hand causing you to lose for having no Pokemon out.
This is a Weezing deck not a brock or golem deck.
This deck looks incredibly fun. That brock with the fighting energy you need coming in out of nowhere is clutch