Why Plates Are INSANELY Strong Now In Tarkov

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  • @WyFoster
    @WyFoster วันที่ผ่านมา +173

    No wonder scavs are randomly bullet sponges.

    • @steadyrow
      @steadyrow วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      Ive watched scavs tank full mags to the head.with no result. There's more than one issue at play I think

    • @ogsimpson3253
      @ogsimpson3253 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      This 'bug' is olddd bro.
      I think more likely it's that neck shots are now going into the thorax pool.

    • @Chevalier_knight
      @Chevalier_knight 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This was added last week throat is thorax hp pool

    • @CovetMeh
      @CovetMeh 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@steadyrow I have had this happen before too, Full mag and a half to kill a scav, he was wearing a cap and a no plate ANA M2

    • @CovetMeh
      @CovetMeh 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I thought maybe I was missing the head somehow and only hitting the rig, but I was using M855A1

  • @HyperRatTV
    @HyperRatTV วันที่ผ่านมา +136

    W vid, hope to see BSG fix this soon!

    • @obamacare2916
      @obamacare2916 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      After new unfelt edition.

    • @Ripa-Moramee
      @Ripa-Moramee วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hello

    • @Gigabeef
      @Gigabeef  วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Thanks for bringing to my attention!

    • @HyperRatTV
      @HyperRatTV วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Ripa-Moramee aloo

    • @DJTanner5
      @DJTanner5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      GigaHyper duo when

  • @GADver
    @GADver วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    What happens then arm is blacked out? Does it still protect you?

    • @Thevegetableslayer
      @Thevegetableslayer 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      I was thinking this exact question, more testing needed!

    • @dreedsilver5732
      @dreedsilver5732 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I want to say probably, but you’d start taking damage to every body part since it’s blacked.

  • @jayzack5
    @jayzack5 วันที่ผ่านมา +81

    3 years of Hyper being schizophrenic finally paid off FeelsStrongMan Clap

    • @NoSleepWiblo
      @NoSleepWiblo 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      hyper did not figure this out lol

  • @floomuscw6628
    @floomuscw6628 วันที่ผ่านมา +75

    And yet the AI can still 2 tap me through class VI with PS ammo.

    • @husler1999
      @husler1999 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’d like to see that video

    • @AHappyCub
      @AHappyCub วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oof, that happened to my friend too

    • @kevinmiller5051
      @kevinmiller5051 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's the new neck hitbox changes. They'll hit you in the neck and then the thorax so it looks like a thorax kill

    • @floomuscw6628
      @floomuscw6628 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@kevinmiller5051 Nope, this has been happening since before that.

    • @MidiumMusic
      @MidiumMusic วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@husler1999 I've been one shot through class 4 armor with 7.62 PS and 1 shot through class 3(Maybe even with class 2 underneath I forget) with 5.45 PS. This stuff happens

  • @1DanteadamS1
    @1DanteadamS1 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    Really weird that there was no aiming with canted sight 3rd person animation (the character didn't angle the gun from other player's perspective), because it used to be there as you said, i just doubt they actually took it out intentionally, are we sure this is not a bug and the same thing happens on all other weapons?

    • @alexmaurice4274
      @alexmaurice4274 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I really wish they would let u put the canted thing on the reviver of the gun so it’s not crazy far forward

  • @michanizio9695
    @michanizio9695 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Could it be because the bullet loses a little bit of its penetration value after going through the arm and simultaneously you're shooting from a steeper angle so the plate is thicker and harder to penetrate?
    Just making an insight to this however I don't know if plates in Tarkov can ricochet bullets or do they even have a thickness value.

    • @The0spetsnaz0
      @The0spetsnaz0 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      There's no "thickness" or angulation simulation. The plate is just a hitbox with numerical values attached. Forcing the game to try and calculate that for every shot would just not be feasible from an optimization standpoint. Bullets will ricochet off the environment depending on angle, but there's no true simulation of material thickness there either.

    • @michanizio9695
      @michanizio9695 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@The0spetsnaz0 That's kind of understandable. With how complicated the system is already adding additional values to check for during each shot wouldn't really give any better results.

    • @BastianJahn
      @BastianJahn 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@The0spetsnaz0 You can just check if two hitboxes have been hit successively and decrease the damage or penetration value. There is no need for "thickness" simulation.

    • @Nick-tm2sw
      @Nick-tm2sw 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@The0spetsnaz0 How do you know it wouldn't be feasible?

  • @reaper314
    @reaper314 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    something similiar (and possibly related in the code) happens when you take the BTR to train depot and the sniper scav starts shooting at you inside the vehicle, i could WATCH the soft armour of my kirasa get depleted with each hit but the plates were 100% untouched and when i put the vest into my bag, i kept getting flinched but not damaged by the sniper

  • @MrStolenpictures
    @MrStolenpictures วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great work Giga. I've been wondering lately about which is the best class 4 plate and you've just served it up on a platter for me. Didn't know of that armor chart's existence.

  • @5olas
    @5olas วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Thank you for these tests, your work is appreciated.

  • @ryanm7475
    @ryanm7475 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Wouldn't the bullet slow down after hitting your arm? In turn reducing penetration?

    • @g00bergob94
      @g00bergob94 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      Yes, but the point is it shouldn't reduce a 60 pen bullet down to somewhere below 20 or something, to the point where it does no damage to the thorax once it hits the plate.

    • @pekka405
      @pekka405 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      in the game probably, but irl AP like SSA AP has so much energy (and it doesnt expand) it basically zips through soft materials like a hand

  • @razamondo
    @razamondo 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This explains that one raid I had with 28 hits on 2 people off spawn on shoreline, must have only hit their arms.

  • @leftylugnutz9117
    @leftylugnutz9117 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Any game would be lucky to have you making content for the community. I have no doubt your thorough testing and investigation has helped contribute to the development of the game.

  • @jacuul6735
    @jacuul6735 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Finally, now I have something to point to. I left many comments on videos and reddit talking about how something was off with the pen for bullets. One thing you didn't check (or at least show) is for the bullet that is stopped completely by the plate, does it show the whole damage? One thing I've noticed this wipe and last is that the "damage stopped by armour" stat at the end is waaay higher along with the general tankiness of players (and especially scavs)

  • @TheBarry1394
    @TheBarry1394 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    vertical grips vs angled grips affect the holding angle ?

  • @Kanzuke
    @Kanzuke วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was huge back when the plate rework first dropped, Airwing Marine did a lot of testing. Wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve managed to undo their fixes

  • @johona_jarl_7
    @johona_jarl_7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was so curious of damage change this wipe cause i ran through the new sniper zone on woods took no damage but all my gear was broken i even tried offing myself with nades but just ate 3 only damaging my armor which i thought was so weird tried replicating it just died

  • @GumMonster1
    @GumMonster1 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Quick note: I've noticed scavs have gotten insanely tanky now because of this, especially on streets of tarkov when the game is laggy.

  • @Gilthwixt1
    @Gilthwixt1 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Explains the scavs with Kirasa somehow tanking a burst of M995 to the chest...

  • @barto2362
    @barto2362 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if there is a limit for a single bullet to hit max 2 hitboxes, there could be some testing done to check out that theory, like to only equip chest armor plate and none in the back, shoot the thorax from behind and check if front plate got damaged and the other way around. When you wear both plates, front and back and get shot tin the chest does the bullet damage the back side plate too? Or when someone is standing behind a door shoot him in the chest and check if the bullet went through the plate or again stopped on the 2nd hit.

    • @barto2362
      @barto2362 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Okay I tested it with a friend and the results were so random that I have no clue wtf is going on

  • @vishensivparsad
    @vishensivparsad 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    does this apply to birdshot type shotgun shells too? if 1 projectile pens through the arm and hit the chest does the bug apply to the rest of the projectiles?

  • @LegndaryStorm
    @LegndaryStorm วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    wasnt this a bug previously as well?

  • @igorkim3558
    @igorkim3558 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    so, hitting the arm reduces pen to zero?

  • @potato1499
    @potato1499 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you so much for the testing, really hope it gets looked at by BSG.
    This issue has been driving me crazy and the only way to properly consistently kill people is to catch them out when they're mid-sprint or something.

    • @YourAverageGump
      @YourAverageGump วันที่ผ่านมา

      That’s why I just go for headshots.

  • @GameKaps
    @GameKaps วันที่ผ่านมา

    On the spreadsheet at the end, what is used to calculate effective durability of a plate?

  • @FrankJ222
    @FrankJ222 37 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Makes sense, this sounds more like a feature than a bug, limb makes the bullet tumble and so the penetrator has no chance to face the plate head on and does not pen the armor. They should keep this and add the rework back on to balance it.

  • @warbear0424
    @warbear0424 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey giga, one thing I think would be interesting to test but may ultimately be subjective is player visibility at distance when wearing full colored gear versus the all white stuff. I’ve been pretty dang curious about it but haven’t been really able to test it for myself.
    Cheers mate

  • @dom_40
    @dom_40 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I was using all the PS12B i've hoarded up the other day and was wondering why it felt so weak

  • @OldManBadly
    @OldManBadly 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Does this mean that leg meta is back? It seems under this example that shooting higher up is either "head" or "arm shield".

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    @SusanRodriguez-e8l 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

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  • @TwinklesTheChinchilla
    @TwinklesTheChinchilla 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hmm, seems like accessory stats like pen and blunt are being cancelled after one flesh pen. As of last night, they were still transferring through environmental intermediate barriers- friggin NPCs were lazing me through box trucks and penetrating armor.
    One could argue that the bullets are yawing and hitting the armor broadside, because "realism", but it seems like a bug. Or a very meager attempt to nerf AP and slow down fights. Both bugs and poorly executed changes are well within the historical precedent of BSG's work, but regardless- thanks for the demo.

  • @emanuelgendusa3181
    @emanuelgendusa3181 วันที่ผ่านมา

    when should you replace plates? I heard a general rule of thumb somewhere to replace them at 70% durability 🤔

  • @ryanr1422
    @ryanr1422 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is this a bug? Wouldn’t it make sense to work that way? Wouldn’t it lose kinetic energy passing through a limb on its way to thorax?

  • @Tobi-qu7go
    @Tobi-qu7go 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I personally wouldn't say this is a bug because you're already shooting through the arm, which taking bone, muscle, etc into account kinda makes sense that it'll slow the bullet down enough that having body armor would show a better effect compared to a straight shot to the plate

    • @tacticaltoaster5777
      @tacticaltoaster5777 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This existed as a feature before but with high pen rounds you'd still have enough pen for stuff like class 3 and 4. Rn, .338 AP doesn't pen any armor if it hits the arm first. This is a bug specifically.

  • @b0unce4ever
    @b0unce4ever 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Hey Gigabeef, I believe with the canted meta ppl were not only refering to the front grip but also canted sight, which moves your PMCs arms around to cover your thorax. That's something I'm missing here.
    Edit: Don't mind me, im stupid and missed it.

    • @Kramillion
      @Kramillion 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      this is in the video

    • @b0unce4ever
      @b0unce4ever 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Kramillion Oh you're right, how did i miss that?!

  • @Windowlick_
    @Windowlick_ 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is this really a bug or just how ballistics work?

  • @isaiahl7727
    @isaiahl7727 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    okay but what ammo should we use now to fight this?

    • @c_man-ss5wo
      @c_man-ss5wo วันที่ผ่านมา

      probably more mid range ones like 56A1 and m80 because it has high-ish flesh, pens helmets well and still pens lvl 4 armor

    • @АндрейМочалов-щ9р
      @АндрейМочалов-щ9р 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      As long as it can pen helmets it doesnt matter anymore. There is very little point in having high AP ammo right now, because it is limited and as we can see - not very effective.

  • @Bronzetrim16
    @Bronzetrim16 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It makes sense that the pen would be reduced after traveling through an arm.

    • @jacobperepolkin9993
      @jacobperepolkin9993 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      it doesn't make sense that you can be shot in the arm and still use a gun

    • @MilkTestingMan
      @MilkTestingMan 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@jacobperepolkin9993it’s still a video game. It doesn’t need to be 1:1 realistic.

    • @xzeuii
      @xzeuii 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@jacobperepolkin9993 except you can’t (accurately) unless you’re on pks

    • @jacobperepolkin9993
      @jacobperepolkin9993 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ exactly its still a game and this is a bug that worsens the gameplay, makes high tier ammo worse. It makes sense that pen would be reduced but this is a bug the gets rid of ALL pen from the best ammo and makes low tier armor better than it really is.

  • @CharleyLemayor
    @CharleyLemayor วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyyyy 338 lapua is again reduced to the efficiency as 9mm, yeppyyyyyyyyy

  • @LostMachinima
    @LostMachinima 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I swear I've seen this Gigabeef video already.
    Buff armor! No, nerf it! No, buff ammo! No, nerf it! And so the cycle continues.

  • @dansal3286
    @dansal3286 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Is it really a bug? Bullets tend to lose velocity after hitting stuff. It probably lost a good chunk of pen after hitting the arm

  • @abagofkittens-z8w
    @abagofkittens-z8w วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've noticed that shotguns have been very innefective this wipe and I think this explains why I've been struggling with them. I usually aim center mass w/ buck shot and have pretty good luck shredding arms and getting frequent head shots on a second or third shot... but this patch scavs and players have been very tanky... switched to legs and gave up on flachette for now.

  • @Pat-The-Fat
    @Pat-The-Fat 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I don't understand the bug here. The bullet is going through the arm at first and then hits the armor plate as a second medium so it has lost a little bit of impact after the arm hit.

    • @vonskyme9133
      @vonskyme9133 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      The issue is not that it loses SOME pen, which definitely makes sense, it loses ALL pen.
      The original shot, without armour, loses 2 damage (about 5% loss of effect - flesh damage and pen loss may not match perfectly, but it gives an idea for scale). Add just a class 3 plate and absolutely zero damage goes through... but even if the arm took off 40% of the pen there should be >90% penetration with that round. It didn't even do blunt damage.

  • @scofieldrk1
    @scofieldrk1 วันที่ผ่านมา

    where can i find that chart? need that

  • @pielabanana
    @pielabanana วันที่ผ่านมา

    I knew that bullets felt like BB's. Now I have the video to point to the evidence thanks so much

  • @Ca9nCrunch0wns
    @Ca9nCrunch0wns วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like this has been a feature for years!! Just some wipes it feels like it was less than other wipes! Im talking back when the grenade button insta thru a grenade! Ive never tested it to your level, but i have a feeling its been here for a while!

  • @KaptanıKidd
    @KaptanıKidd วันที่ผ่านมา

    It does not seems very strange to me as the bullet loses much of its energy and penetration ability after exiting the arm. So the plate might stop the high pen bullet. It sound kinda realistic tbh.

  • @Lu_Kitsuray
    @Lu_Kitsuray วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Ugh... Really wish BSG would prioritize optimisation and maintenance than anything else.
    With how long this game is out I find it quite unbelievable what huge or even gamebreaking things are still running around in Tarkov.

    • @POP7QWIZ
      @POP7QWIZ วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I don't think they're capable of fixing things. Or they think they can just fix it all later. Which is very naive

    • @ForOne814
      @ForOne814 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Cool, that doesn't work well for player retention. Most players are willing to tolerate bad performance, but they want new content regularly.
      Also they are grossly incompetent and the game will never run well, because at its core it's just very badly coded.

    • @Whackfear
      @Whackfear วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      *ahem* acktchually the game isn't out, we are beta testing. Do you expect a finished product when you hear "beta test"? You bought an early access game and now you complain about issues??
      Nikita stan LARP aside, you are absolutely correct. The biggest issue for me is performance. Yeah, bugs and broken AI and stuff like plate issues is gonna happen with a game this complex and a vision that's even more ridiculously complex, but it's hilariously pathetic that the game barely manages 60 FPS on cutting edge hardware. If memory serves, we had the game at 60+ on Streets one wipe after it released and all the OG maps ran smoothly as well, but we keep going backwards. Ridiculous.

    • @Zlatko815
      @Zlatko815 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@WhackfearThat customs update... Ugh. Was one of my more favorite maps before, new routes are cool and all but why have all the new interiors if you can't optimize it.

    • @Whackfear
      @Whackfear 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @Zlatko815 oh yeah, Customs and especially the new middle bit don't feel good at all.

  • @balookre
    @balookre ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    hp ammo comin in handy this wipe. i'm just shooting legs now it's been so much better

  • @CharleyLemayor
    @CharleyLemayor วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    My guess would be that arm shots reduce the penetration of the rounds by 50% or so which means that with 56 pens divided by 2 would be 28 which would not pen the armor plate which also negates the blunt damage, but when the plate is zero, it is now ignored and the 28 penetration can now penetrate the level 2 soft armor. It would have been interesting to test this with the level 3 soft armor to see!

    • @relangel
      @relangel วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      56 divided by 2 equals 23 ???
      dude WHAT

    • @CharleyLemayor
      @CharleyLemayor วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @relangel sorry my mistake, still applies

  • @toooldfortwowheels2048
    @toooldfortwowheels2048 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Been wondering why Scavs are just tank 4-5 shots from anything I use from M80 upwards.

  • @StrangeDefusing
    @StrangeDefusing วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does the plate still tank a shot if the arm is 0/60?

    • @Gigabeef
      @Gigabeef  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm pretty sure it does but can't quite remember

    • @StrangeDefusing
      @StrangeDefusing 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Gigabeef Hmm, that's wild! Hopefully this is a bug, but either way, this would explain numerous times where I "feel like" I should've killed someone and yet they still wipe the floor with me haha.

  • @outofposition2215
    @outofposition2215 วันที่ผ่านมา

    good job. thank you!

  • @rotards3036
    @rotards3036 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    we need QUEST GUIDE FOR PVP , quests that unlock ammo and armor and maybe meta atachments

  • @keeb__
    @keeb__ 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Its wild to me that when they make hitbox changes, they don't test for reoccurring bugs... Like, they should go through a checklist of expected behavior each time they make a change, like any competent dev team.
    Minecraft has a whole system for automating expected behavior that they test each update and add to. They have been in the business only a couple more years than Nikita, they should know better.

  • @delta2magnus
    @delta2magnus 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Does this apply to face masks as well like death shadow?

  • @eizaxio4185
    @eizaxio4185 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    a few raids ago, a mounted machine gun shotted at me and hitted my level 5 40 durability back plate, i took 0 dmg but the armor hp got to 0

  • @GS-el8ll
    @GS-el8ll 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    next question, factor in osprey qcq with the arm armour

  • @Dylan9664
    @Dylan9664 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Must be one of the reasons I get blacked arms and no damage anywhere else recently

  • @kalashnikovdog6131
    @kalashnikovdog6131 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    BSG saw the Garand Thumb video where Granite 4 stopped M855A1, M61, .30-06 black tip, and .300 win mag and decided to buff plates lol

  • @YeeMacghyee
    @YeeMacghyee วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was wondering how some of the PMCs in PvE have been tanking 338 FMJ multiple times

  • @stomodino5443
    @stomodino5443 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Players are just too tanky right now

  • @cryptosuchusp1517
    @cryptosuchusp1517 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I just brain dead scrolled TH-cam recommended for 20 minutes due to my lack of sleep caused by tarkov so wow my day is weird

  • @АндрейМочалов-щ9р
    @АндрейМочалов-щ9р 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    this works with every armor, not only with plates. i've tanked 7.62x54 BS with condors. the bullet went through my hand and did like 10 damage to the glasses and about 15-20 damage to the head. lmao

  • @Borkery
    @Borkery วันที่ผ่านมา

    this might explain why i couldnt explain how FMJ 366 ammo just felt like it dropped people faster than EKO, even though EKO has better pen.

  • @SpeedyAdmin
    @SpeedyAdmin 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Tbh i like that the arm blocks a lot , we already die 2 quickly if they fixed this we die even quicker lol

  • @kristianOLS
    @kristianOLS วันที่ผ่านมา

    Shot a guy 12 times yesterday and he didn’t die. Top loaded 3 mai ap, then 3 bp, then the rest ps. 300 damage and 280 absorbed by armor. This explains it

  • @ImHarpoon
    @ImHarpoon วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Well you have to consider the bullet losing speed and being deformed when hitting the arm. It wont have that 57 pen when it hits that armor. That’s fairly realistic.

    • @Gigabeef
      @Gigabeef  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      From point blank...?

    • @TheLiberek
      @TheLiberek วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Gigabeef I am pretty sure that I've seen a video from a channel like "SlowMo Guys" (or other channel like them) in which they shown how much can bullet tumble after going through ballistic dummy. While they shown a normal round, which deforms easier than one with sollid penetrator. But then again, rounds with solid penetrator usually have a jacket of softer metal that will deform, and make the round tumble and once penetrator does not hit the armour with the tip, that should take out the "piercing" from AP, so you are left with A round.
      So in my uneducated opinion, that COULD be possible, but would require some very speciffic testing to prove/debunk

    • @jsingle5
      @jsingle5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yet the arm remaining functional after being overpenetrated by high velocity ammunition is massively unrealistic. It's also worth mentioning that the arm is nowhere near as tissue dense, and really shouldn't have such a profound impact on rounds to the scale of .338 Lapua. Certainly not with such consistency.

    • @Wongdalrus
      @Wongdalrus วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​Yes ​@@Gigabeef
      If you imagine a bullet going through the same distance in a glass a water, it's intuitive to think it'll slow down, alter course, or deform. We're mostly water and Add in clothing, bones, etc it's what happens

    • @YeeMacghyee
      @YeeMacghyee วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      338 AP, or any AP for that matter, will cut straight through your arm, to include the bone, and barely deflect the vast majority of the time.

  • @briancooks80
    @briancooks80 วันที่ผ่านมา

    that explains how bird guy shot me 3 times in the thorax with .338 fmj and it didn't kill me...

  • @siege2928
    @siege2928 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    doesn't seem like a bug at all... Arm is taking the brunt of the round just like in real life. There are countless test showcasing that limbs getting hit drastically slows down the round, especially when the round hits bone.

  • @mensalveare9130
    @mensalveare9130 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Cool info, I will show this to the scav that 1 shot me through my lvl5 with a ps gs.

  • @Scarecr0wn
    @Scarecr0wn วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh. That explains.. things.

  • @kaksksdjrheh9940
    @kaksksdjrheh9940 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    yeah as a first wiper i quit playing cause of punisher part 6, literally a week into wipe using the best possible ammo for the svds and watching people tanking 8 shots to the chest

  • @nothingtoaddhere11
    @nothingtoaddhere11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    good video. hope they fix soon

  • @BruhManDudeo7
    @BruhManDudeo7 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Unfortunately for me, everyone I fight just one taps me on engagement.

  • @jamesmt95
    @jamesmt95 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video sir

  • @lives4games620
    @lives4games620 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Dude ngl I just reported someone after I put 23 rounds of PP (23 hits after I died and I only shot at him) and they were all stopped with only 3 damage being done to the player who was wearing T3 armour

  • @grev.
    @grev. วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this doesnt seem like a bug at all. the arm is acting as the first plate, reducing the damage taken by the armor plate.

    • @Oroborus710
      @Oroborus710 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      No, it's 100% bugged. A .338 Lapua AP round would easily blow through an arm and through a class 3 plate behind it, and then probably through the body and the other plate in the back, then your neighbor and his dog.

  • @wp6834
    @wp6834 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Makes perfect sense

  • @Penice-rj8wd
    @Penice-rj8wd วันที่ผ่านมา

    This plate bug is annoying me since armour hitbox change

  • @hizzousekakashi8836
    @hizzousekakashi8836 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So it wasn't just me losing my mind this wipe.

  • @TheGrymmKrusader
    @TheGrymmKrusader 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Isn't it because the arms are equivalent to level one or two armor because of the bone? It's been like this for a while, I thought? The resulting pen is lower than required for penetrating the armor. I agree that it shouldn't work like this, but how'd they implement a change without making kill time extremely quick, I don't know. You would be doing full damage to both parts immediately, including critical damage across the body once the arm is black. That doesn't even include the spaghetti coding and implementing something. Maybe including velocity in the equation for pen so that certain materials reduces the velocity by a percentage then resulting in a decreased pen by another percent, instead of just object ate a flat amount of pen because of some unknown "armor" value? But once again, spaghetti code.

    • @TheGrymmKrusader
      @TheGrymmKrusader 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      As for the Lapua round specifically, yeah, that should've just full pen'd everything and killed

  • @cup0joe769
    @cup0joe769 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Explains why my kirasa feels op now

    • @eeeeeeee543
      @eeeeeeee543 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      No... not what this video is about

  • @0_qperry_0
    @0_qperry_0 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Only commenting to help the algorithm love mate ❤

  • @originalthundercat4295
    @originalthundercat4295 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    With all of these bugs I decided for the first time since 2018 that I was done. I’m just over it. No audio, constant ammo and gun bugs, healing bugs, extraction bugs. Dying to bosses before the raid timer countdown puts you in raid. Walls glitching out, scavs one tapping you through walls. I’m just over it all. The more people that put money into this game the worse it gets it seems.

  • @Drath__
    @Drath__ วันที่ผ่านมา

    I guess in theory your arm would slow a round to some degree but this is obviously not what you want.

  • @Ripa-Moramee
    @Ripa-Moramee วันที่ผ่านมา

    This explains so much lol

  • @YotzaYT
    @YotzaYT วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think the "canted meta" was involved with the canted sights combined with the canted grip.

  • @bigbagel1055
    @bigbagel1055 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I had 22 hit count on a player using ap9 ammo and he didn't die.

  • @johnharrison1573
    @johnharrison1573 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This makes sense though

  • @kilopapa
    @kilopapa 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Classic arm armor

  • @sims341
    @sims341 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is there something that isn't bugged this wipe? Jesus

  • @acolytetojippity
    @acolytetojippity วันที่ผ่านมา

    oh interesting they fixed the canted meta by just removing the special animation your PMC actually uses in-game (the animation you see in first person is just visual).

  • @hhhhhbztb
    @hhhhhbztb 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    man this should change

  • @piotrr5439
    @piotrr5439 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is a reason all AI scavs go for head-eyes.....

  • @andyderp6473
    @andyderp6473 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Canted meta is in arena if im not going crazy, has the old twist

  • @lilslicknick93
    @lilslicknick93 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your tryna get it to double pen an ARM and then the aramind and then the plate. Probably why it’s not gonna first pen the arm and then keep going. BSG prolly wants that to happen

  • @YaBoyFishyy
    @YaBoyFishyy วันที่ผ่านมา

    This makes a lot more since now… shot a guy 32 times and he lived.

    • @YaBoyFishyy
      @YaBoyFishyy วันที่ผ่านมา

      Mind you I was using m856a1

  • @w8d2-55
    @w8d2-55 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    this has been in forever no?

  • @doom3657
    @doom3657 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I thought I was going crazy and running into so many cheaters, now I know its this. lol Literally yesterday I had 855A1 and the other guy only had class 4 but the guy's plate took literally half of the damage and ended up killing me.

    • @natoninemilfirepower7996
      @natoninemilfirepower7996 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      how did you know he only had class 4 if you died

    • @SaltSpirits
      @SaltSpirits วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@natoninemilfirepower7996You can literally see what armour people are using on their character models, what…?

    • @JoseCarthaginian
      @JoseCarthaginian วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@SaltSpiritsthat is unless they change default plates, which a lot of people do

    • @cavemanbonk8320
      @cavemanbonk8320 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bugs and others issues like desync is why im *extremely* skeptical of ppl who say they run into cheaters, not bc i think theyre liars, but because many feaths literally look like the other dude was cheating, when he wasnt actually

    •  23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@JoseCarthaginian Still he speaks true, i actually did PvP with my friends on offline co-op , we tanked SNB and M61 like crazy sometimes, then checked armor , sometimes plates were barely scraped.