I got the Forest Spirit!!!!.......................................................................................the only t8 premium tank i have is the su-130pm
The SPAC and the Orders was pretty good, though spent a little too much for the SPAC. The other days sucked, and definitely wasn't going to spend $400 for the Waffle even IF I could have gotten it.
@@leeuniverse The SPAC and orders were ok but another tier 8 premium and some orders are not something to get excited about for such an event. Day 1 was a shitshow and 3+5 just disappointing.
4 gold, 1 credits. credits was trash tank with insanely limited numbers. gold offers besides sfac were ridicolous and stupid. wt released as exlusive tank???? campaign orders? really? reskinned premiums, alr if you dont own many/any premiums but no free xp auction? everything about this was insanely mid, i have 200m credits and 600k free xp, was hoping to get something cool but i got literally nothing
Yes i already have 5 out of the 6 as the standart tank. Which means 5/6 would be a copy of a tank for me with a skin. I dont like to have a small chance of getting the Astron.
I know the depiction is a Chinese dragon and they meant it for the Chinese zodiac, but considering there is a record level racist DC super villain under the same name, a german tank made me raise an eyebrow 😂
I miss the old blackmarket. You get offers from rare, old and already existing tanks. You could buy something that you missed. Now we get “new” tanks that are the same that nearly everyone has in the normal variant, just to milk the player base even more with gambling like this. So nobody gets gold compensation.
I would've bought me the skin of my choice for 5000 gold no issue. I've got the gold and its not doing much of anything. I am however NOT interested in having a clone tank, 5 out of which I don't give a damn about.
@@Meisto95 Yeah, but think about this use case: you own 4 or 5 out of these 6 tanks in their standard version (without the skin). You want to get the Astron Rex, but you have just as low a chance of getting it like the person who does not own any of the base tanks. It's ridiculous to get reskinned versions of the tanks you already own. Wargaming is the only winner in this. And the people getting their desired tank, ofc. :D
I WOULD HAVE PULLED THE TRIGGER IF I GOT TO CHOOSE.. I'd love to have the Alembic... But I'm not fucking gambling... 2nd worst part about WG is all the gambling they make you do...
well if you have neither of the tanks that are reskinned here it's actually a great deal 7,5k gold for a T8 tank that can cost from 8.2k gold all the way up to 11k gold.
@@ganndeber1621he is not wrong. If you dont have any of the standard version of the tanks its a good offer. My problem is that i have 5 out of 6 of the standard version and i dont want to gable to still get a copy of a tank which i already have.
Nahh orders for 5000 gold are worth it, and i got kpz so yeah its worth it if you want to buy shiddy is6 rn you need like 10k gold but kpz or any of these for 7,5 is a steal
the offer is honestly a steal if you dnt own these tanks. All solid choices but i guess most of the people commenting here have all the premiums so they dnt really care about a skin.
I think its not worth it for me personally, I don't own a single one of these skinned versions. So the chance of me getting a skinned version of a tank I already own is 50%
It isnt. If you dont own any of the Tanks (skinned or non-skinned), it is a great offer since 7500 is cheap for a at least decent Premium. But if you own the non-skinned version, you just pay a lot of money for a Skin, because there is 0 reason to play the skinned version if you have the regular version (except of course you want to have it, but then it is still a gamble, and you can play your Progetto and while this is still in the match play the Mars...But eh).
@@Mut4ntG4m3r I guess majority of players here just dont expect that there are new players coming in or that there are players that decided to spend their money for the first time on the game. Id call them selfish as they only think of themselves.
@ You have no idea what you are about to get in to in this game. This is not a nice deal for ppl who dont own a premium tank YET. WG should offer free premium tanks to new comers so it would be bearable to try having fun in a rigged game that is full of p2w tanks. Oh wait, i have a better idea. Wargaming should go across the street and buy some condoms, because at least we should be safe if wg keeps fucking us. They may as well buy some cigarettes too, because i like to have a cigarette after i get fucked.
This was WG compensating for the crock that was the Black Market. For the average player getting anything the past 4 days was impossible. Excellent video again Quickybaby
the Bisonte style hides the weakspots way too hard. You cant see them on the hull at all...that some kind of pay to win/confuse not a fan of those styles....
@@Deadtrigger24 No, the Hurricane (CS-63 from Onslaught) is also a blank, camo-less CS without any gimmics. Same goes for Forest Spirits in Frontline etc. He is right, we don't see this crap.
99% of the players will just "scan" you till find a green spot, and then shoot it and pen. Theres literally no need to learn "weakspots". Most of the tanks have lover plate, and cupola as weak spots, not many of them have rare, uncommon weakspots.
I still find it funny that people buy "new" premium tanks that are just re-skins of older premium tanks. If you already have a Progetto 46, why would you ever buy the Mars?
Mars and Alembic are arguably one of the nicest reskins in the game currently. At least for tier 8. With Alembic being the best, imo. The tank, the skin, the sounds it makes etc.
Because it’s an excellent tank and there’s nothing better than playing the tanks you love with a different skin and a fresh new points counter for the battlepasses. “I’ll just play a random tank I don’t enjoy/might not be competitive because my favorite ones are already capped” said no one ever and all these tanks here are excellent, even for those which don’t own the standard ones.
@@TormentorD “I’ll just play a random tank I don’t enjoy/might not be competitive because my favorite ones are already capped, said no one ever” - pretty sure that's the reality for a lot of players though. 🤣 Especially those with very few premium tanks that wanted to farm credits during the holidays lol.
I love having a Borra and a Miel when frontline rolls around. But I'm still not buying this since I don't want doubles of any of these. I mean, I think the KPZ and Bisonte 3d skins I already have are better than these.
@ To be honest, you can't have a better Bisonte 3D skin than the Stone Sentinel, in my honest opinion, of course. One of the nicest 3D skins for sure, especially in tier 8. I hate Bisonte and I would still want that skin lol.
dunno, from lootbox normally you can get shit that is worth below lootbox price, here you always gonna get tank which price is higher than those 7500 gold
We havent learned from Star Wars battlefront, Call of Duty, FIFA.... weegee players really love to get milked so bad, it's like... they were made for this.
Big disappointment from wargaming! Definitely an absolute garbage start in 2025 from wargaming! I really really hoped they will add something new into the, and they just add previous tanks with a reskin and a different name. 👎👎👎👎👎👎
@ well I returned to wot after a couple of years break during xmas and those crates were also not available so anything chance related seems of the table
Got the Stone Sentinel (Bisonte). After 8 games I can say that the -10° gun depression and the 1080 dmg in 6 seconds are fun. HEAT ammo with 270pen is nice too. It was my only black market purchase and that's a good thing.
I don't own any of these tanks reskinned or not. For players like me this does represent very good value, but I can see the frustration for the majority of players
This deal is great for those who dont own one of these tanks or the non skinned version. All other have to gamble for getting a specific tank. I already own the SU, IS3A and Progetto so theres a 43% chance for me paying 7500 gold and getting a tank I alrdy have in the garage. Thats too risky for me. So nice offer from WG but for most of the players useless
I got the IS3A Peregrine back for 130k free XP and it's probably the best thing I ever bought in the game. Incredibly profitable vehicle and great for grinding credits, especially if you're not the best player.
I cant even bid yesterday WG banned my account saying that charge backs have been done for a few dlcs i got on steam for wows and planes to try out, no refund showing in my bank or steam wallet but WG placing the blame on steam, steam has verified that no refunds have ever been done for wargaming and WG still wont/hasn't unbanned my account, worst part is the the items value was a whopping £13.83 in steam sale but WG wants the full nearly £60 in gold to be purchased to unban me such a scamming bunch of assholes, trading standards will be informed and hopefully they will get investigated
I would have loved the WT E100, but the price was absolutely crazy and as I am a UK adult working full time WG simply excluded me from the offer. A little unfair how we get some desirable rare vehicles only available for those with whale accounts sitting in front of a computer logged in. I am not completely tempted by the reskin tanks, I was a collector, I bought some duplicates, and simply have had to just give up on it, it's simply retarded to continually throw hundreds of pounds occasionally at a game that now requires a subscription, never ending premium account, and a yearly splurge on Christmas boxes that result in loads of gold but pretty much nothing to do but gable on a clone tank. Crazy, yet here I am considering it despite owning all regulars and never playing. What a game this has became. Edit, I also took the clickbate, I also ended up with the Whitedragon. This and the Campaign orders are the only items I got from the event.
Please stop saying "New" vehicles. All these tanks exist in game already. Just 2 of them have "New" skins. The entire Black Market was "Lazy", Really wish WG would actually bring out "New".
This is getting more and more "World of spending Money". Feels like 90% of the content is just about which new premium to get, if XY is worth spending money on, is Prem X too op, when is Prem Y for sale, is package Z worth gambling for, etc. No surprise nobody cares about tech tree tanks. Every event is about spending money. Remember how they had a special every weekend? Which highlighted some tech tree or gave bonuses to grinding or made things cheaper? Now they celebrate by trying to sell you something :D And inflation kicks hard nowadays. 100k free xp min for 5€? Damn son This ship is sinking at an alarming rate
@@scottwoods9071 Yes, but its sad to see where the game is heading and all the fun is being sucked out of it if you don't pull out your wallet regularly
I went down this rabbit hole and gambled. I have the bisonte and got the stone sentinel. I thought we couldn't get doubles from what we had. But on my only chance I did get a double.
It's not considered a double because it's technically a "different" tank in the garage. This is what makes clone tanks a scam. WG thanks you for your "donation".
FAIL, FAIL, FAIL...WG is failing more than succeeding these days. Total BS that WG is trying to pass off putting a fancy skin on an old tank and calling it a "New" tank. I already have all the "regular" version of all these tanks, so my gold will be staying with me. Rock on Tankers 🤘😎
Did not had any of those & got the Mars. The only non-clone I have is Kampfpanzer. But If I were to chose based on the style - then yeah, White Dragon is the best looking. I do hope that soon-ish we will be able to get that tank in Chinese lunar new year event.
Funny how people who have already spent tons of money on WoT are calling players who have not and will get a tank they don't have suckers. No, we are not suckers, because we get a tank we'd never have otherwise for a measly 7500.
I would erase all copy-paste tanks (everybody should get the amount of gold back), and put these skins into the game optionally... So if somebody hate these skins, can disable non historic skins, and everybody would be glad.
I DO like the Look of the White Dragon over all of the ones I don't Have... I have Forest and Alembic... Mars I could Care Less about, and the Bisonte is Kinda Weird too, I'd end up with Either of these probably First... The Other I'd Likely Get would be the Peregrine, because I have an IS3A already, and it's NOT exactly a Favorite of Mine... Funny they'd put that Effort into the German Tank and Not a Chinese One to Suit the Dragon Motif...
The skinned versions are just looking like absolute trash. More like World of Clownvehicles :D Plus you can sell people multiple Versions of the same tank
Didn't have any of these vehicles so I went ahead and bought it. Got the forest spirit. Definitely no complaints as I'd say that would have been in my top 3 for what to get. Good Luck to all.
I already have the normal SU-130PM and IS-3A, and I have the mars, so it's a 40% chance I get a tank I already have. I have enough Christmas gold that I'll probably yolo it anyway but I wish it wasn't like this.
I might have been interested in this, I'd love to get the kpz07. But the risk of actually receiving the Mars fills me with dread. I know different people like different things, but that might be the only 3d design that actually almost makes me angry with how ridiculous it looks ... Abs, crest and cape? It's hilarious. But, for me, not in a good way.
Ive been playing (and paying into) this game for 13 years. I do not want to know how much disposable income ive given to WG. When they sold this recent black market german TD for upwards of 400 USD it changed the way I think of this game, and not in a good way.
This Blackmarket was a big middle finger from Wargaming to their long term tank collectors. First the whole WTE100 Phonix BS with all tanks gone in 3 seconds so vast majority unable to get. Followed by this nonsense to guarantee at least 1 more tank cannot have in collection. All in all just pissed me off. Nothing makes your customers more happy then taking away the WTE100 they had in their account and played for 800 games, and then handing out replacements based entirely on internet speed and random luck to a tiny number of the people who have been waiting years for it back, and then having those people troll the rest of us for not having it in our collection. Yes, customers really like that, thanks Wargaming.
Stone sentinel, and kpz 68 these are two tanks that have a visual model that absolutely does not fit, compared to the physical armor that is calculated during the battle on the server. This is disgusting playing against this vechicles. I know what i can disable not historical styles, but im done with other 99% of all styles, but this 2 is just on another level of my misunderstanding.
The really annoying thing is that on the China server, this offer included 3M credits, which is the equivalent of converting the 7.5K gold into credits. you could therefore argue the T8 prem on top was a "free bonus". I loaded into the garage, clicked the thing, got the White Dragon and only later realised that on EU, this offer does NOT include 3M credits. I know that the CN server is under the management of a different company (not WG), but man, I can't help but feel like we missed out here.
For people without any of the unskinned variants of tanks, this is a pretty decent deal. The deal gets worse the more of the unskinned versions of the tanks you have cause the higher of a chance you receive a duplicate
The best deal in the black market was the orders. All this exaggerated fuss with tanks and styles doesn't persuade me to bid on it. WG starts so slowly to make a mess of the whole game
I havent played actively since 2017. Come back for christmas every now and again but please tell me if I'm wrong, does it feel less and less like a historical tank game?
Easy answer. Do you not have any of these tanks, not even the non-skinned version? Buy it, it's good value. Do you only have one maybe two of them (including the non-skins)? It's a gamble but you get a new tank with a good chance. Do you have three or more? Skip, unless you are a tank collector. You'll likely get a dupe tank.
got the White Dragon, not the worst, not the best. Wanted Progetto/Astron, but already had SU without skin so I was at risk. The tank seems fun enough so Im happy for the price.
One of the nicest reskins to be honest, for a nice and fun tank. I'd say totally worth it. In my opinion, Alembic would be first place, followed immediately after by Mars/White Dragon on the same place. I got the Mars (wanted the Alembic, ofc).
The only two I did not have the "normal" version of is the White Dragon and IS-3A. Luckily I got the White Dragon that I hoped for, but the Mars and Stone Sentinal also look very good.
WG messed up not excluding the twins in your garage from consideration when you roll the dice. BM got me orders to finally get the T-55a in my garage so not all was a loss.
I would say, out of all of the tanks i can get, my favorite is the one i don't have to gamble for, realistically the only reason this is gonna sell is because of the new styles
I can definitely understand collectors not being happy about this. I only have two of the tanks here, both the skinless variants, so my chances to get a duplicate are pretty high.
Maybe the problem is that not everyone owns these tanks, so they don't release it as a 3D style, but a "new" tank instead. They do it to further boost up the sales, killing two flies with one hit - collectors will pay just to have the tanks and "new" or "not so active" players that may be interested in the skin, but don't own the original tank will buy it as well, just because they like it.
white dragon is cheaper but the detailed its one of the best looking ones with the mars + ALEMBIC those 3 have one of the best camo yet for a reskins tank
Pretty cool, and the price is great when you consider how much the rest have been. I don't have any of them and was hoping for the Alembic, but got the Mars. Which was my least favorite style of the bunch, but is at least a playable tank. Looks like you will be able to look forward to the Stone Sentinel as a filler tank in a future loot drop . The White Dragon looks very cool imo.
Got the White Dragon, but wanted the Stone Sentinel. The only other one I didn't have was the Peregrine. It's really shit you couldn't buy as many as you needed.
@@thunder7135 i looked at all the tanks, any of it would have been amazing and on top of that i had barely enough gold for it so it makes for the unlucky pick from loot boxes (Squall)
I already have the SU-130PM, Astron Rex and Progetto so wouldn't mind the White Dragon, Stone Sentry or Peregrin. Would probably see about getting Support to swap to the Base variant that they are clones of if I can Like they Did with the Scorpion G.
I want the Stone Sentinel so badly...the Bistone is easily my favourite premium, and that 3D style looks amazing...if only it was a 3D style instead of a completely "new" tank...
I got the Mars for about 27€ and I'm happy because the original progetto is really fun and OP and Mars is beautiful, its former price was very high, I don't remember, even with a shit MM you can always do something in a play with progetto/Mars 😅😊
"Lets reskin, multiple old tanks and make it a gamble, then call it a day"
These aren't even new skins
Nobody forces you to throw your money for it...
@@reinaldo8787 oh boy here comes the WG white knights
I'd rather have stuff like this in the shop than WT to be honest
@@BetterCallKahl It's true. Nobody is forcing you lol.
I got the Forest Spirit!!!!.......................................................................................the only t8 premium tank i have is the su-130pm
but now you have one with a fancy skin xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
F
LOL there is one born every day. Shut up and take my money.
Same here. The only premium i had from the list is the Kpz 07 and i got the White Tiger....
Bro it happened to me . Wtf are they doing this on purpose
This Blackmarket was a major disappointment.
The SPAC and the Orders was pretty good, though spent a little too much for the SPAC. The other days sucked, and definitely wasn't going to spend $400 for the Waffle even IF I could have gotten it.
@@leeuniverse The SPAC and orders were ok but another tier 8 premium and some orders are not something to get excited about for such an event. Day 1 was a shitshow and 3+5 just disappointing.
They should rename it "gold market"...
Thanks for spending 15k or how much for SFAC. I missed it by 2k gold@@leeuniverse
4 gold, 1 credits. credits was trash tank with insanely limited numbers. gold offers besides sfac were ridicolous and stupid. wt released as exlusive tank???? campaign orders? really? reskinned premiums, alr if you dont own many/any premiums but no free xp auction? everything about this was insanely mid, i have 200m credits and 600k free xp, was hoping to get something cool but i got literally nothing
The fact these are clone tanks, rather than 3D skins just ticks me off everytime.
Wg can shove it!
Testify Brother Testify.
Yes i already have 5 out of the 6 as the standart tank. Which means 5/6 would be a copy of a tank for me with a skin. I dont like to have a small chance of getting the Astron.
German tank with dragon...lol😂😂
And not even a european dragon for a change.
Tribute to Dragon Lord
Its chinese new year i guess
@@ZurilasZone NO ITS DRACHENLORDS TRIBUTE TANK LOOK IT UP MEDDL LOIDE! Panzer aus Denken
I know the depiction is a Chinese dragon and they meant it for the Chinese zodiac, but considering there is a record level racist DC super villain under the same name, a german tank made me raise an eyebrow 😂
I miss the old blackmarket. You get offers from rare, old and already existing tanks. You could buy something that you missed.
Now we get “new” tanks that are the same that nearly everyone has in the normal variant, just to milk the player base even more with gambling like this. So nobody gets gold compensation.
Still waiting for a chance to get my hands on the t44-100
@@dmccosta6069same. But for 40€.
@@dmccosta6069 lol what? it got sold not too long ago but it's not even worth it
true in the old market I got the black dog for 5 millions and the FV 183 for 20 or 25 millions, can't remember
QB: "why not sell this as a 3D style for like 5000 gold"
WG: "Hello, we like money"
instead you get tank+skin for 7500 XD
I would've bought me the skin of my choice for 5000 gold no issue. I've got the gold and its not doing much of anything. I am however NOT interested in having a clone tank, 5 out of which I don't give a damn about.
@@Meisto95 Yeah, but think about this use case: you own 4 or 5 out of these 6 tanks in their standard version (without the skin). You want to get the Astron Rex, but you have just as low a chance of getting it like the person who does not own any of the base tanks. It's ridiculous to get reskinned versions of the tanks you already own. Wargaming is the only winner in this. And the people getting their desired tank, ofc. :D
China dragon on a German tank = dum
Its Fuchur the dragon from "Never Ending Story" a german movie . ;)
@ephoratagora4179 It might be but it is a Chinese design on that dragon
I mean, WG had a japanese inspired event last year, where they sold a chinese inspired skin for a czech heavy tank.
@@Th3Grimmi sounds like vomiting to me
If it was buy the box and you get to pick the one you want it would be awesome. As a big loot box, no
I WOULD HAVE PULLED THE TRIGGER IF I GOT TO CHOOSE.. I'd love to have the Alembic... But I'm not fucking gambling... 2nd worst part about WG is all the gambling they make you do...
@@bikebudha01they don’t make anyone do anything 😂😂
@ if you want some tanks, they make you gamble to get them...
Or if you didn't get a clone of a tank already in your garage?
well if you have neither of the tanks that are reskinned here it's actually a great deal 7,5k gold for a T8 tank that can cost from 8.2k gold all the way up to 11k gold.
Thinking really isn't something you do well is it?
@@ganndeber1621he is not wrong. If you dont have any of the standard version of the tanks its a good offer. My problem is that i have 5 out of 6 of the standard version and i dont want to gable to still get a copy of a tank which i already have.
@ Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
@@ganndeber1621 you're asking that to yourself, huh?
@@ganndeber1621the irony
Well it's safe to say the real winners of the black market event are the ones that didn't spend any gold credits or XP on this awful event for 2025.
Nahh orders for 5000 gold are worth it, and i got kpz so yeah its worth it if you want to buy shiddy is6 rn you need like 10k gold but kpz or any of these for 7,5 is a steal
The winners are those who never spend any money in this tank shaped casino game.
@@ganndeber1621
Its okay poverty is one of the leading problems of society today ill be sure to donate some money today for those in need
@ Good sheep
@@zuraktobambuzi3055 Don't forget to donate some money. Giving them to Wargaming doesn't count. xD
I remember when the BM was actually fun and a way for regular players to have a chance of getting a rare tank.
Yeeep. Sold half my garage for the t22 last year. Never thought I'd ever get that tank.
The Pz V/IV would be nice…
@ I got mine in the 1st BM. It is fun.
I hate the renames of these tanks in battle because I never know what I’m up against
"Wtf is a forest spirit??" *THUNK*
-600
I got the Alembic. For 7500 gold, considering I had over 40K from Christmas is an absolute steal for me. I am satisfied.
I got it too but never played or heard of it but if its anything like a char fitur i will be happy 😊
@@sandi_ogame They can get really nasty if you play it smart :)
Lucky guy
the offer is honestly a steal if you dnt own these tanks. All solid choices but i guess most of the people commenting here have all the premiums so they dnt really care about a skin.
@@Astelch Yeah, you are right. I had none of these, beside the Bisonte. So it was a no brainer for me
I think its not worth it for me personally, I don't own a single one of these skinned versions. So the chance of me getting a skinned version of a tank I already own is 50%
That's the problem with these skinned tanks. They should be a premium skin instead of a whole new vehicle
It isnt. If you dont own any of the Tanks (skinned or non-skinned), it is a great offer since 7500 is cheap for a at least decent Premium. But if you own the non-skinned version, you just pay a lot of money for a Skin, because there is 0 reason to play the skinned version if you have the regular version (except of course you want to have it, but then it is still a gamble, and you can play your Progetto and while this is still in the match play the Mars...But eh).
After the WF E100 i told my self "wargaming cant screw things more than this", and yet they surprise me again...
How? With a nice Deal for ppl Not having Premium Tanks yet?
@@Mut4ntG4m3r I guess majority of players here just dont expect that there are new players coming in or that there are players that decided to spend their money for the first time on the game. Id call them selfish as they only think of themselves.
@ You have no idea what you are about to get in to in this game. This is not a nice deal for ppl who dont own a premium tank YET. WG should offer free premium tanks to new comers so it would be bearable to try having fun in a rigged game that is full of p2w tanks. Oh wait, i have a better idea. Wargaming should go across the street and buy some condoms, because at least we should be safe if wg keeps fucking us. They may as well buy some cigarettes too, because i like to have a cigarette after i get fucked.
Black market ❌️
Gold market ✅️
I wanted the Stone Sentinel, I gambled for the Stone Sentinel, I got the Stone Sentinel. Now let's suck in another tank!
I got the Mars, will suck in it
@MikeStar2000 Let's hope we meet on the battlefield. Then at least one of us can do good 😅
I got the it too
@@dynastyonthunder3584 hopefully you will suck in it also 😁
I got the stone sentinel too!
This was WG compensating for the crock that was the Black Market. For the average player getting anything the past 4 days was impossible. Excellent video again Quickybaby
the Bisonte style hides the weakspots way too hard. You cant see them on the hull at all...that some kind of pay to win/confuse
not a fan of those styles....
Yeah I agree with you. The weakspots in the upper plate are not visible at all.
@@nowhere683 I have non-historical skins switched off. I don't see this crap in game.
@@Davey-Boyd hmm i think for this tanks you should see them still because they are no actual skin they are that tanks its not a skin you can take off
@@Deadtrigger24 No, the Hurricane (CS-63 from Onslaught) is also a blank, camo-less CS without any gimmics. Same goes for Forest Spirits in Frontline etc.
He is right, we don't see this crap.
99% of the players will just "scan" you till find a green spot, and then shoot it and pen. Theres literally no need to learn "weakspots". Most of the tanks have lover plate, and cupola as weak spots, not many of them have rare, uncommon weakspots.
I still find it funny that people buy "new" premium tanks that are just re-skins of older premium tanks. If you already have a Progetto 46, why would you ever buy the Mars?
Mars and Alembic are arguably one of the nicest reskins in the game currently. At least for tier 8. With Alembic being the best, imo. The tank, the skin, the sounds it makes etc.
Because it’s an excellent tank and there’s nothing better than playing the tanks you love with a different skin and a fresh new points counter for the battlepasses.
“I’ll just play a random tank I don’t enjoy/might not be competitive because my favorite ones are already capped” said no one ever and all these tanks here are excellent, even for those which don’t own the standard ones.
@@TormentorD “I’ll just play a random tank I don’t enjoy/might not be competitive because my favorite ones are already capped, said no one ever” - pretty sure that's the reality for a lot of players though. 🤣 Especially those with very few premium tanks that wanted to farm credits during the holidays lol.
I love having a Borra and a Miel when frontline rolls around. But I'm still not buying this since I don't want doubles of any of these. I mean, I think the KPZ and Bisonte 3d skins I already have are better than these.
@ To be honest, you can't have a better Bisonte 3D skin than the Stone Sentinel, in my honest opinion, of course. One of the nicest 3D skins for sure, especially in tier 8. I hate Bisonte and I would still want that skin lol.
So it is basically a lootbox.
Shhhhh we are not supposed to say that and QB wont
dunno, from lootbox normally you can get shit that is worth below lootbox price, here you always gonna get tank which price is higher than those 7500 gold
We havent learned from Star Wars battlefront, Call of Duty, FIFA.... weegee players really love to get milked so bad, it's like... they were made for this.
Except you’re guaranteed a tank
Big disappointment from wargaming! Definitely an absolute garbage start in 2025 from wargaming! I really really hoped they will add something new into the, and they just add previous tanks with a reskin and a different name. 👎👎👎👎👎👎
Dude you must be a fish...
They are doing this for more then "just now".
in Belgium you get nothing since lootboxes are banned
good thing for Belgium tbh
how do you get new premium tanks if you can't buy lootboxes? wait for them in the Premium Shop?
same for the netherlands but i could buy the box without issues same for xmas
@ well I returned to wot after a couple of years break during xmas and those crates were also not available so anything chance related seems of the table
@@carpfisher3157 strange as the rule is that its only allowed if they show odds and the Netherlands and Belgium is the same in that tule
Got the Stone Sentinel (Bisonte). After 8 games I can say that the -10° gun depression and the 1080 dmg in 6 seconds are fun. HEAT ammo with 270pen is nice too. It was my only black market purchase and that's a good thing.
Bisonte's a fun tank. But the original is much better-looking than the reskin.
I don't own any of these tanks reskinned or not. For players like me this does represent very good value, but I can see the frustration for the majority of players
This deal is great for those who dont own one of these tanks or the non skinned version. All other have to gamble for getting a specific tank. I already own the SU, IS3A and Progetto so theres a 43% chance for me paying 7500 gold and getting a tank I alrdy have in the garage. Thats too risky for me. So nice offer from WG but for most of the players useless
I got the IS3A Peregrine back for 130k free XP and it's probably the best thing I ever bought in the game. Incredibly profitable vehicle and great for grinding credits, especially if you're not the best player.
This year the black market event definitely wasn't good
only thing I got were the mission orders lol. sfac was cool, but I dont care for playing td's enough and f the price on that wtf100
I cant even bid yesterday WG banned my account saying that charge backs have been done for a few dlcs i got on steam for wows and planes to try out, no refund showing in my bank or steam wallet but WG placing the blame on steam, steam has verified that no refunds have ever been done for wargaming and WG still wont/hasn't unbanned my account, worst part is the the items value was a whopping £13.83 in steam sale but WG wants the full nearly £60 in gold to be purchased to unban me such a scamming bunch of assholes, trading standards will be informed and hopefully they will get investigated
1: Gambling, really fucking hate how normalised it's been both in society and video games.
2: These should be 3d styles.
Got Mars, so yeah totally wurf
0/6 and got mars
Owned none of them, got Mars too! Yeah!! finally a good premium to grind with.
@@CronusDesignSystem Same.
I would have loved the WT E100, but the price was absolutely crazy and as I am a UK adult working full time WG simply excluded me from the offer. A little unfair how we get some desirable rare vehicles only available for those with whale accounts sitting in front of a computer logged in.
I am not completely tempted by the reskin tanks, I was a collector, I bought some duplicates, and simply have had to just give up on it, it's simply retarded to continually throw hundreds of pounds occasionally at a game that now requires a subscription, never ending premium account, and a yearly splurge on Christmas boxes that result in loads of gold but pretty much nothing to do but gable on a clone tank.
Crazy, yet here I am considering it despite owning all regulars and never playing. What a game this has became.
Edit, I also took the clickbate, I also ended up with the Whitedragon. This and the Campaign orders are the only items I got from the event.
Please stop saying "New" vehicles. All these tanks exist in game already. Just 2 of them have "New" skins. The entire Black Market was "Lazy", Really wish WG would actually bring out "New".
I still cannot unhear that line where QB says he has choose between exposing himself to the Leopard or the Forest Spirit. Still makes me chortle.
stone sentinel looks the best to me; but i wouldn't pay 7500 for a reskin. and i especially wouldn't pay when i'm not guaranteed to get what i want.
You should not call it "lazy" - it is just plain and simple greed
The lootboxes was a major disapointment last year I got the Forest spirit there...
I will never again buy loot boxes if ther5e are clone tanks in them
This is getting more and more "World of spending Money". Feels like 90% of the content is just about which new premium to get, if XY is worth spending money on, is Prem X too op, when is Prem Y for sale, is package Z worth gambling for, etc. No surprise nobody cares about tech tree tanks. Every event is about spending money. Remember how they had a special every weekend? Which highlighted some tech tree or gave bonuses to grinding or made things cheaper? Now they celebrate by trying to sell you something :D And inflation kicks hard nowadays. 100k free xp min for 5€? Damn son
This ship is sinking at an alarming rate
The great thing is you can choose not to buy.
@@scottwoods9071 Yes, but its sad to see where the game is heading and all the fun is being sucked out of it if you don't pull out your wallet regularly
I went down this rabbit hole and gambled. I have the bisonte and got the stone sentinel. I thought we couldn't get doubles from what we had. But on my only chance I did get a double.
It's not considered a double because it's technically a "different" tank in the garage. This is what makes clone tanks a scam. WG thanks you for your "donation".
The best thing about it is that it's discounted vs how much they normally are like the mars started at 9k gold last auction
WOw thats so good of them
FAIL, FAIL, FAIL...WG is failing more than succeeding these days. Total BS that WG is trying to pass off putting a fancy skin on an old tank and calling it a "New" tank. I already have all the "regular" version of all these tanks, so my gold will be staying with me. Rock on Tankers 🤘😎
Did not had any of those & got the Mars. The only non-clone I have is Kampfpanzer. But If I were to chose based on the style - then yeah, White Dragon is the best looking. I do hope that soon-ish we will be able to get that tank in Chinese lunar new year event.
Funny how people who have already spent tons of money on WoT are calling players who have not and will get a tank they don't have suckers. No, we are not suckers, because we get a tank we'd never have otherwise for a measly 7500.
I would erase all copy-paste tanks (everybody should get the amount of gold back), and put these skins into the game optionally... So if somebody hate these skins, can disable non historic skins, and everybody would be glad.
I DO like the Look of the White Dragon over all of the ones I don't Have... I have Forest and Alembic... Mars I could Care Less about, and the Bisonte is Kinda Weird too, I'd end up with Either of these probably First... The Other I'd Likely Get would be the Peregrine, because I have an IS3A already, and it's NOT exactly a Favorite of Mine...
Funny they'd put that Effort into the German Tank and Not a Chinese One to Suit the Dragon Motif...
Took a Shot and Who Knew, Got the White Dragon... lol
So uh, why does a German tank have a Chinese style…
The skinned versions are just looking like absolute trash. More like World of Clownvehicles :D Plus you can sell people multiple Versions of the same tank
Boomer ….
@@kol3158 so people are already boomers in their early 20s? Cool story bro.
Didn't have any of these vehicles so I went ahead and bought it. Got the forest spirit. Definitely no complaints as I'd say that would have been in my top 3 for what to get. Good Luck to all.
I already have the normal SU-130PM and IS-3A, and I have the mars, so it's a 40% chance I get a tank I already have. I have enough Christmas gold that I'll probably yolo it anyway but I wish it wasn't like this.
I got the white dragon I'm happy
in order to be fair, all the tanks with the gold on them, should be paying more for a repair, even a couple of gold itself, or 5 grand cash.
I already had the IS3-A, SU-130PM, Progettoand the Bisonte, so I was very happy when I got the Alembic.
Lucky you
I might have been interested in this, I'd love to get the kpz07. But the risk of actually receiving the Mars fills me with dread. I know different people like different things, but that might be the only 3d design that actually almost makes me angry with how ridiculous it looks ... Abs, crest and cape? It's hilarious. But, for me, not in a good way.
QB: Dragon torso
Me: Dragon Tosser!?
😂😂😂
Ive been playing (and paying into) this game for 13 years. I do not want to know how much disposable income ive given to WG. When they sold this recent black market german TD for upwards of 400 USD it changed the way I think of this game, and not in a good way.
It ultimately doesnt matter what wargaming does QB because we know you'll buy it, so we dont have to.
i got too many of the regular versions of these tanks so i'm not going to risk it no thanks.
This Blackmarket was a big middle finger from Wargaming to their long term tank collectors. First the whole WTE100 Phonix BS with all tanks gone in 3 seconds so vast majority unable to get. Followed by this nonsense to guarantee at least 1 more tank cannot have in collection. All in all just pissed me off. Nothing makes your customers more happy then taking away the WTE100 they had in their account and played for 800 games, and then handing out replacements based entirely on internet speed and random luck to a tiny number of the people who have been waiting years for it back, and then having those people troll the rest of us for not having it in our collection. Yes, customers really like that, thanks Wargaming.
Stone sentinel, and kpz 68 these are two tanks that have a visual model that absolutely does not fit, compared to the physical armor that is calculated during the battle on the server. This is disgusting playing against this vechicles. I know what i can disable not historical styles, but im done with other 99% of all styles, but this 2 is just on another level of my misunderstanding.
The really annoying thing is that on the China server, this offer included 3M credits, which is the equivalent of converting the 7.5K gold into credits. you could therefore argue the T8 prem on top was a "free bonus". I loaded into the garage, clicked the thing, got the White Dragon and only later realised that on EU, this offer does NOT include 3M credits. I know that the CN server is under the management of a different company (not WG), but man, I can't help but feel like we missed out here.
Got the Peregrine, was the only tank I was hoping not to get. Oh well, for 7500, I guess it's not that bad... Right?
For people without any of the unskinned variants of tanks, this is a pretty decent deal.
The deal gets worse the more of the unskinned versions of the tanks you have cause the higher of a chance you receive a duplicate
The best deal in the black market was the orders. All this exaggerated fuss with tanks and styles doesn't persuade me to bid on it. WG starts so slowly to make a mess of the whole game
I had none of these reskin tanks and got a Stone Sentinel. I love my Bisonte so I'm happy
Hell yeah I had none of these and really wanted the IS3-A and I actually got ittttt. Happy happy joy joy!!!
I havent played actively since 2017. Come back for christmas every now and again but please tell me if I'm wrong, does it feel less and less like a historical tank game?
@Quickybaby. This black market has been a horrible screw for the entirety of their community on so many levels!!
It was amazing!
Easy answer.
Do you not have any of these tanks, not even the non-skinned version? Buy it, it's good value.
Do you only have one maybe two of them (including the non-skins)? It's a gamble but you get a new tank with a good chance.
Do you have three or more? Skip, unless you are a tank collector. You'll likely get a dupe tank.
got the White Dragon, not the worst, not the best. Wanted Progetto/Astron, but already had SU without skin so I was at risk. The tank seems fun enough so Im happy for the price.
One of the nicest reskins to be honest, for a nice and fun tank. I'd say totally worth it. In my opinion, Alembic would be first place, followed immediately after by Mars/White Dragon on the same place. I got the Mars (wanted the Alembic, ofc).
My method is to go exactly 180 deg to your recomendations and it works out just fine for me anyway.
At least I got one that I did not have the clone! Was the Stone Sentinel, as apposed to the Mars, still fairly happy.
The only two I did not have the "normal" version of is the White Dragon and IS-3A.
Luckily I got the White Dragon that I hoped for, but the Mars and Stone Sentinal also look very good.
WG messed up not excluding the twins in your garage from consideration when you roll the dice. BM got me orders to finally get the T-55a in my garage so not all was a loss.
I would say, out of all of the tanks i can get, my favorite is the one i don't have to gamble for, realistically the only reason this is gonna sell is because of the new styles
I can definitely understand collectors not being happy about this.
I only have two of the tanks here, both the skinless variants, so my chances to get a duplicate are pretty high.
I had all the base style tanks except the White Dragon (Kpz) I I wanted to give it a try and got the White Dragon. Super stoked
Why not just let people choose which tank they can get from the list. Why does there always have to be this gambling aspect?
isnt it obvious? if you willing gamble on this then your willing to spend more
Maybe the problem is that not everyone owns these tanks, so they don't release it as a 3D style, but a "new" tank instead. They do it to further boost up the sales, killing two flies with one hit - collectors will pay just to have the tanks and "new" or "not so active" players that may be interested in the skin, but don't own the original tank will buy it as well, just because they like it.
One day they will listen, maybe.
Just sell the skins, I'd buy that White Dragon style, but I'm not gambling for it.
If they are still making money they will not listen
I agree with you. Those should be stiles and not clone tanks. Whatever... Wg being wg... Not buying any that's for sure.
Only tank I had out of this at all originals included is the forest spirit. I got the mars and I like it for a medium.
Nope, not buying duplicate tanks. Got enough tier 8 prems. But the Orders yesterday was life changing, I now have a 279e
So if there is a Forest Spirit and Stone Sentinel, wonder if in the future there will be an Air, Water, Ice and Fire themed vehicles.
Another advantage of the Su130 over the scorpion is the shell velocity!
white dragon is cheaper but the detailed its one of the best looking ones with the mars + ALEMBIC those 3 have one of the best camo yet for a reskins tank
I had none of them in any form, except for the Progetto. I wanted one of the meds or the Forest Spirit, but of course I got the Stone Sentinel :(
Pretty cool, and the price is great when you consider how much the rest have been. I don't have any of them and was hoping for the Alembic, but got the Mars. Which was my least favorite style of the bunch, but is at least a playable tank.
Looks like you will be able to look forward to the Stone Sentinel as a filler tank in a future loot drop . The White Dragon looks very cool imo.
I wanted the MARS and of course I for the Forest Spirit. have all but those two. But I have the SU 130PM, so not sure about that then.
If you dont know what an alembic is, it for distillation for alchemy/science.
I agree that it's bothering to "learn" new clone names/tank, there is so much tank already.
Got the stone sentinel. It was the only sale I could get to due to work scheduling.
Got the White Dragon, but wanted the Stone Sentinel. The only other one I didn't have was the Peregrine. It's really shit you couldn't buy as many as you needed.
It makes you wonder why they will not just let you buy the tank you want, why could that be?
@@ganndeber1621ssssssshhhhh he hasnt woken up from the matrix yet
i got Alembic, i had some spare gold from loot boxes (~8000), for exactly an ocasion like this one, i think the value is very good
You were honestly one of the luckiest ones today. Good for you :D
@@thunder7135 i looked at all the tanks, any of it would have been amazing and on top of that i had barely enough gold for it so it makes for the unlucky pick from loot boxes (Squall)
I already have the SU-130PM, Astron Rex and Progetto so wouldn't mind the White Dragon, Stone Sentry or Peregrin. Would probably see about getting Support to swap to the Base variant that they are clones of if I can Like they Did with the Scorpion G.
Only one from the list I had was the SU-130PM.. go and figure I get the Forest Spirit
The cut scene was mad bruv :D 17:51
I want the Stone Sentinel so badly...the Bistone is easily my favourite premium, and that 3D style looks amazing...if only it was a 3D style instead of a completely "new" tank...
I got the Mars for about 27€ and I'm happy because the original progetto is really fun and OP and Mars is beautiful, its former price was very high, I don't remember, even with a shit MM you can always do something in a play with progetto/Mars 😅😊
Straight in, got the Stone Sentinel.
I got the Fred Flintstone tank, lots of fun with it.