Thanks for the update. This is the best looking headlight cover on the market. I'm happy waiting for a product that you're proud of. Nice jacket as well.
Steve Thanks for getting me in today I really appreciate it, I know you were extremely busy. I Love the Weisers, the S4’s and the Sound Bomb! The strobe effect is brilliant. Thanks to Tom for the fitting and Tara for supplying me with the coffees. I look forward to seeing the video. I’ll be back for other items in the future. Cheers Dave
UPDATE to my earlier comments--I have now installed the Weiser EVO Extreme lights; front and back (or rather I should say, I've HAD them installed by my favorite SoCal BMW dealer, Brown Motor Works of Pomona, CA) and the EVOs are damned impressive. Converting the front indicators to BRIGHT white DRLs changes the entire presentation of the bike to oncoming traffic--they see nothing but pure, clean, white light, and when I indicate, the bright amber indicator is impossible to miss or to misinterpret. That brings me to my Denali lights (a pair of D7s just below the stock headlight, and a pair of D2s on the forks, mounted low, near the calipers). Initially, I had the Cansmart programed to kill each D7 as I indicated left or right--as most of your installations have done. However, after having just paid big bucks for the EVO kit, which provides much brighter front and rear indicators, I no longer feel the need to kill the corresponding D7 when I indicate (and have reprogrammed the Cansmart accordingly). But there was a second reason for ditching the D7 off-when-indicating settin: when using the indicator to change from one lane to the other on a freeway, having the D7 reactivate behind the vehicle I'm now following, it appeared to me (and I assume to him) that I'd suddenly hit him with my brights for no reason. I know my D7s are bright (oncoming traffic often tells me) so I can imagine how it feels to see them come on in their review--and I can only imagine what goes through their mind (@^%#!!). So, ixnay on the dim/dip when indicating--my EVO's are bright enough to shine through my D7s! Anyone disagree?
I reported these exact safety concerns with my dealer and asked them to report with BMW motorad. Reply came back that I could purchase older style indicators at retail cost. I had someone walk across road in front of me because they thought I was turning due to amber lights and a mate was following me on a ride on a sunny day and said he couldn't see difference braking/indicating which during my report I asked why they didn't at least put the indicator section as the outer part of the rear indicator's. How on earth did BMW get these to pass type approval is beyond my understanding. Great video, just a shame it takes owners and companies to rectify huge safety risks from manufacturing.
I really like the look of the white light across the front of the bike.. looks great. It’s quite puzzling what BMW have done to the indicators for 2021, onwards, bikes! I thought it’d cause issues even before I heard of any problems arising. Luckily I have a 2020 1250 GSA which has the separate rear light, but I’m now hanging on until the 1300GSA is available. It’ll be interesting to see if they have the same configuration, or might they have listened to feedback and designed in a resolution. If not, I’ll be paying you a visit to have the Weisers installed. Great video 👍
Hey Bike Thing! I follow your channel along with others and enjoy your channel here in US. I have the 23GS in the trophy version Which I took possession of toward the end of November. Like all my motorcycles I've had I never left lighting at factory standards, and this GS was no different. Unfortunately the headlights that came on the 23 were halogen because of Shortage in electronics industry, but I did change the halogen lamp sound to LED's which truly improve my writing until the new retrofit comes to to BMW the end of this month which is February. I immediately didn't like the BMW you turn signals Both front and rear because I didn't think they were at their maximum capacity of what they could be doing. I found on another channel Called just the way it is Who focuses on the GS, wiser technologies LED Lighting for front and rear. I immediately purchased and it was delivered and I broke the bike down and installed it. This lighting is at least 5 times brighter in the rear and 20 times brighter on the front running lights. The rear act as integrated with my brake lights which Are red running lights and super bright red brake lights integrated with the stock Light, And directionals turn bright Amber. Front running lights are 6000 K bright white, and during directional used they are super bright ambers. I am more comfortable writing any motorcycle knowing that I have more lights to be seen in the rear and also be in seen from the front for those idiots that want to turn in front of you. I enjoy your channel from Afar and appreciate your work and your due diligence !
Thanks for another great video, Steve, and a much needed product. I'd like to install the combo, but don't see anything in the instructions or videos of how to connect to the CanSmart vs using the relay? Do you mind covering that at some point, please? Thank you!!!
Hi Steve. Great video as always. I agree with Jay who asked how to connect these to the CanSmart. Any chance that you will cover this in another video? Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and safe riding.
Fixing a problem that shouldn’t even be a problem. BMW need to take note. I really don’t like the MFTS on the later bikes. I stuck with my 2019 GSA in the end when looking to update it. A small part because of this but also when I was looking, BMW couldn’t guarantee anything more than a Halogen Headlight (which I would have to pay to get swapped out when the new one was available). No thanks. Great vid.
Just to be pedantic... Mark at Weiser Technik would prefer if these lights were not referred to as DRL's (i.e. Daytime Running Lights) because dedicated DRL's are not designed to be used at night in some countries such as the UK. Weiser Technik refer to these as "driving lights" and as such intend them to be used at any time. Also my TH-cam pal Carl at his channel "Just The Way It Is" has several in depth videos regarding these lights (inc. two excellent installation videos) and I also have a video of me fitting them to my R1250R... a 2021 (Euro5) bike without multifunction turn signals :)
Thanks Ricky. Im sure you can appreciate Mark and I have spent quite a bit of time getting these products stocked on our shelves here at A Bike Thing. I'm fully aware of Carls excellent videos. Later in the year I'll be bringing another video showing ezcan compatibility with these lights too. We have videos on our channel showing full GS and GSA strip downs too. I don't feel we need to make a Weiser specific installation video in huge detail as the enclosed instructions are very easy to follow.
@@ABIKETHING It's great that you are stocking them and getting the word out about these lights - I certainly appreciate the extra illumination and functionality they bring to the bike. As a CanSmart owner I'll be keeping an eye out for your compatibility content too 😊 Keep up the good work!
@@ABIKETHING Nope. You're 'screw-by-screw' instructions are easy to follow when installing your Denali packages, but these are not at all. Not even close.
Everything you are saying about those indicators is correct .. front and back.. Someone sat in an office thinking they have a good idea . Not at all . (Desk wanker). Must be a none bike rider . People interfering with what everyone understands and See's . Well done weiser,👏👏👏👏👏👏but the opposite indicator needs to go out . Stop showing red brake light so it is fully clear the the people behind what you are intending to do. Scrap that no brake light indicator at all just indicators only
@@aymarx1 I second that - his installation video is excellent! Not sure I'd have managed a DIY install just from the supplied instructions but Carl's video kept me right.
The front lights. Do they display white at night or are they just daytime running lights? Also, the website offers extended length indicators… the ones installed in the video are these the medium length pls? Cheers
They stay on at night but we can change this if we put them through the ezcan and set the white light to do what we want when we want. I have medium on front and short on back in this video
Hi, got the combination set a few weeks back and still have not got around to fitting them 🙄 Just watched the install video again and noticed you mention that they can be wired using an EXCAN circuit rather than the relay. I have spare circuits on my EXCAN (only running a set of Denalis). Is it simply a matter of connecting the relay wires onto the EXCAN circuit rather than fitting the relay to the battery and splicing into the bike wiring? I would rather splice in into the EXCAN circuit rather than the OEM. The bike is a 2019 1250GS. PS - if there was an easy to purchase connector that would save all the splicing that would be even easier 😁
Hi Steve, Great video and lots of details as always. I like them. They appear to be currently only available to BMW bikes. I recently bought a Triumph Tirger 1200 GT Pro and would really like to pick up a set for it. Do you know if there are plans to release sets for this bike?
Hi Steve - or anyone else, so I have the ezCan that you fitted for me (thanks!) - I'm sure I have a spare socket free, if so does that mean it's even simpler to install. I.e they plug into the same OEM sockets and the one wire goes into the ezCan? Thanks
Steve, I didn’t see it in the video but how much of the tank etc has to come off to wire the front up? I’ve done it before for some D4s but not sure if same effort involved to retrofit these? Thanks. Great vid
I took the whole thing off and did it at the same time as the D4's. It would be quite vulnerable if you didn't, especially considering how thin the wires are.
I’m a little confused, I see all the options on what size stem for the turn signals, are you using the oem stems and just replacing the CB? If not, what size stems did you use? I’ve got a 2019 GSA.
SPOT THE MISTAKE...? I think that you might have fitted to indicators on the wrong sides initially. You had the drain holes at the top 😂 I claim my prize of a free set 🤞
@@ABIKETHING I'm currently saving to get a lights and horn pack fitted, I'll now be adding the indicators. I'll be in touch once the piggy bank is full 👍
Hey Steve, nice video. That project bike looks awesome. I currently ride a KTM890 adventure and was wondering if weiser make any of these for other makes and not just BMW’s because these are great looking lights?
Yes, absolutely. They fit the majority of bikes. I’m just focussing on the beemers to begin with and then will expand but if you select the weiser lights for the 2013 to 2020 model, these will work on the KTM
Steve, I’m currently using all 4 circuits on my EzCan. Would wiring the trigger wires to an EzCan splitter cable (I have two on the shelf) work better in lieu of a relay in this circumstance? If so, would I need one or two splitters (one for front and one for rear)? Or just use the relay? I have a 2020 GSA.
Hi, positaps come in the kit so you can join front to rear anyway (saves on buying a splitter) but then the one wire can go to one circuit as a light pair and this would mean you wouldn't need a relay.
I don’t ride a GS, and wasn’t aware of this issue at all, but begs a question - How on Earth did this pass the board meeting? Do they not care about safety? How did they get TÜV (or whatever the German technical inspection association name is) approval? It’s ridiculous. I also hate my Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports amber running lights on turn signals. Makes no sense. If they don’t glow white what’s the point. All it does is create more confusion among already heavily distracted drivers.
It does make sense - amber/yellow lights are perceived more easily than white bulbs in daylight, and there is research (albeit limited) to suggest that amber drls on motorcycles increase safety over white drls. Again, given that they have been on Hondas for years I think we'd have some evidence by now that they are a singular cause of accidents rather than rider or driver error.
Yes you can but you need to attend to the dash error you’ll get when you unplug them from the bike and reconnect to ezcan. If however you buy these Weiser lights, you can just plug them in and they’ll be a DRL that flashes when you indicate
Thes lights are brilliant and they solve in my opinion a dangerous problem…. However weisser need to make them plug and play… the need for an additional wiring loom and having to Mickey Mouse a feed from the rear lights is not for me… when weisser fix this I will purchase immediately.
@@ABIKETHING hope it’s just as simple as nothing happens on the lights until I indicate then nothing happens again when I cancel them. I have asked BMW what was wrong with standard clear as day lights as they are horrendous . They have no answer but you can purchase without the “lighting pack” which will be standard indicators apparently.
Agree that the BMW combo indicators are a potential problem. BUT. The Weiser indicators are bloody AWFUL, FAT great things with lens screws which are always a problem given time! When you see them taken apart they look cheap and nasty plastics!
Odd that Honda riders don't seem to have the issue that some GS riders do? Accidents happen, and there is no good way of knowing whether this was down to the front lights. As bike riders, we all experience cars pulling out from junctions by mistake, and I can't say that the number of such incidences has increased for me over the old indicators vs the new. Too easy to blame the equipment. As for the rear, many modern cars have the same multi-cluster format in which the brake light washes out the indicator. But if the rider is only indicating near or at the time he or she brakes, then perhaps that rider needs to reassess their roadcraft. It should be a non-issue.
@@ABIKETHING you are correct. That’s why our CEO invented a tail indicator solution. You know that was of course as you wanted to be his sole distributor.
Nice things but WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. Im in South Africa so the exchange rates are insane. Can unfortunately not follow you any longer. Ironically I just bought a brand new 1250 gS. Beautiful gear non the less. Go well 😢
They should have a fix from firmware. You go to the bmw dealership and they only click some buttons while the bike is connected to their laptop and be done with it. 1. turn on/off position light on central light 2. turn on/off position light from turn signals 2a. turn on/off position light while signaling from turn signals 3. turn on/off brake light from turn signals 3a. turn on/off brake light while signaling from turn signals It's should have been that easy, a few on/off switches on the firmware software updater canbus thing-a-magig, but alas, it's not. These weiser lights are terrible imho. They are bulky, ugly and the screw is at the front of the lense? not even at the back? pfff. Where as the bmw turn signals are sleek, sexy and not a horrible dot matrix. That and the fact you have to tap into factory wiring, and connecting a relay to the battery, that's not what plug and play means, Steve. I think that all of the modifications you've done over the years have gone to your head if you think using posi taps is plug and play 😬 In conclusion, it's a no from me. I have the 2022 GSA with multifunction 1 and multifunction 2 options fitted from the factory and I'm perfectly happy with them. Please note that I rode over 16.000 kilometers within 6 different european countries with my bike. While I agree that the bmw solution is dodgy at best, I never had an issue with the amber DRL's at the front. And on the rear, I simply turn on my indicators before I have to brake. It's what every driver should do, even the ones in cars/trucks/buses. There is also a traffic rule for that. You are required by law to use your blinker 50 meters before the intersection in a town and 100 meters outside of it. It's that simple. What's the point of turning on the signal as you're making the turn? It makes no sense but I've seen plenty of drivers doing it. Even drivers turning left from the first lane instead of switching to the second lane and then performing the turn (while driving on the right side of the road) I would also argue that there are bad drivers everywhere and I highly doubt installing these ugly yet less shady lights would make the bad drivers pay more attention to you or be less bad. But even though I don't personally like the weiser product, it's always good having multiple options to chose from. However, I will stick with my factory OEM multifunction indicators for now.
I'm so disappointed with this video. I kept telling Weiser they should get Steve to make one of his step-by-step videos because the product is so good, but not easy and not plug-n-play. Steve is just selling the product and not showing the trickiest bits of the installation. Sorry Steve, but this is not of your typical quality videos. Some issues are: 1. The instructions included are for Europe and the diagram doesn't apply to the US. No specific diagram for the US. The written instructions are totally confusing and I needed direct support from Weiser to translate to US bikes. Their instructions are just lazy. Almost AliExpress level quality. 2. No information about which wire to tap for switched brake light power. Evem with direct support I tapped more than one before I got the right one and then had to repair wire. 3. The L-shaped lock for the outer lens cover doesn't fit properly. I broke as many as I didn't and needed to trim some plastic off on the ones that didn't break. It's just a poor fit and needs to be hacked a bit. 4. Not a lot of extra cable between the ground and power, so if you want to run power through one cable raceway and ground through another, such as using a PDM, you don't have a lot of flexibility. 5. The longer stems are too long for the GS/GSA if you're going off-road and will have the bike falling over, especially on an incline. They sent me the longer ones and I raised this concern, and it took only a few days off-road to break one of them. Then I broke some of the replacements because of issue #3. The support from Wieser was amazing though. When I told them what happened and reminded them of my initial concerns, they sent the replacements for free, and when I called because the new ones didn't fit properly and were breaking, they were very responsive. I still had to trim them myself and keep a broken one because they just don't fit properly. This is one of the most valued safety upgrades I've done on my bike. I don't regret it. However, it would only take a couple of hours to create a detailed video to address almost all of these issues, especially for US bikes, and make it so much easier to install. Someone needs to create a video to address the issues above, and also maybe create some best practice in how to wire it because there is a lot of excess wire and it's very thin. I know what I did, but I'm sure there are better options. Not as bad as what Weiser offers, but not 'a Bike Thing' standard either.
Thanks for the update. This is the best looking headlight cover on the market. I'm happy waiting for a product that you're proud of. Nice jacket as well.
Steve Thanks for getting me in today I really appreciate it, I know you were extremely busy. I Love the Weisers, the S4’s and the Sound Bomb! The strobe effect is brilliant. Thanks to Tom for the fitting and Tara for supplying me with the coffees. I look forward to seeing the video. I’ll be back for other items in the future. Cheers Dave
UPDATE to my earlier comments--I have now installed the Weiser EVO Extreme lights; front and back (or rather I should say, I've HAD them installed by my favorite SoCal BMW dealer, Brown Motor Works of Pomona, CA) and the EVOs are damned impressive. Converting the front indicators to BRIGHT white DRLs changes the entire presentation of the bike to oncoming traffic--they see nothing but pure, clean, white light, and when I indicate, the bright amber indicator is impossible to miss or to misinterpret.
That brings me to my Denali lights (a pair of D7s just below the stock headlight, and a pair of D2s on the forks, mounted low, near the calipers). Initially, I had the Cansmart programed to kill each D7 as I indicated left or right--as most of your installations have done. However, after having just paid big bucks for the EVO kit, which provides much brighter front and rear indicators, I no longer feel the need to kill the corresponding D7 when I indicate (and have reprogrammed the Cansmart accordingly).
But there was a second reason for ditching the D7 off-when-indicating settin: when using the indicator to change from one lane to the other on a freeway, having the D7 reactivate behind the vehicle I'm now following, it appeared to me (and I assume to him) that I'd suddenly hit him with my brights for no reason. I know my D7s are bright (oncoming traffic often tells me) so I can imagine how it feels to see them come on in their review--and I can only imagine what goes through their mind (@^%#!!). So, ixnay on the dim/dip when indicating--my EVO's are bright enough to shine through my D7s! Anyone disagree?
I reported these exact safety concerns with my dealer and asked them to report with BMW motorad. Reply came back that I could purchase older style indicators at retail cost. I had someone walk across road in front of me because they thought I was turning due to amber lights and a mate was following me on a ride on a sunny day and said he couldn't see difference braking/indicating which during my report I asked why they didn't at least put the indicator section as the outer part of the rear indicator's. How on earth did BMW get these to pass type approval is beyond my understanding.
Great video, just a shame it takes owners and companies to rectify huge safety risks from manufacturing.
The older indicators will not fit the newer bikes. Different pin counts on the rear set.
You have fitted all of them upside down. The drain hole should be on the bottom as per the instructions
Hi Steve. Check 11.59. Indicator is mounted on wrong side. Draining hole should face down. ;-). BTW. I like Your videos!
Seen these before
And Wondered where I could get them fitted. Glad you’ve got them in
We are too. Look forward to seeing you and your bike in the near future 😊
I really like the look of the white light across the front of the bike.. looks great. It’s quite puzzling what BMW have done to the indicators for 2021, onwards, bikes! I thought it’d cause issues even before I heard of any problems arising. Luckily I have a 2020 1250 GSA which has the separate rear light, but I’m now hanging on until the 1300GSA is available. It’ll be interesting to see if they have the same configuration, or might they have listened to feedback and designed in a resolution. If not, I’ll be paying you a visit to have the Weisers installed. Great video 👍
Hey Bike Thing! I follow your channel along with others and enjoy your channel here in US.
I have the 23GS in the trophy version Which I took possession of toward the end of November. Like all my motorcycles I've had I never left lighting at factory standards, and this GS was no different. Unfortunately the headlights that came on the 23 were halogen because of Shortage in electronics industry, but I did change the halogen lamp sound to LED's which truly improve my writing until the new retrofit comes to to BMW the end of this month which is February.
I immediately didn't like the BMW you turn signals Both front and rear because I didn't think they were at their maximum capacity of what they could be doing. I found on another channel Called just the way it is Who focuses on the GS, wiser technologies LED Lighting for front and rear. I immediately purchased and it was delivered and I broke the bike down and installed it.
This lighting is at least 5 times brighter in the rear and 20 times brighter on the front running lights. The rear act as integrated with my brake lights which Are red running lights and super bright red brake lights integrated with the stock Light, And directionals turn bright Amber.
Front running lights are 6000 K bright white, and during directional used they are super bright ambers.
I am more comfortable writing any motorcycle knowing that I have more lights to be seen in the rear and also be in seen from the front for those idiots that want to turn in front of you.
I enjoy your channel from Afar and appreciate your work and your due diligence !
Thanks for another great video, Steve, and a much needed product. I'd like to install the combo, but don't see anything in the instructions or videos of how to connect to the CanSmart vs using the relay? Do you mind covering that at some point, please? Thank you!!!
Hi Steve. Great video as always. I agree with Jay who asked how to connect these to the CanSmart. Any chance that you will cover this in another video? Would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and safe riding.
Great suggestion!
Amazing 😮
Another thing on the list
Love from Slovenia 🇸🇮!¡!¡
Back at ya! I was riding in Slovenia in 2019 en route to Romania.
Fixing a problem that shouldn’t even be a problem. BMW need to take note.
I really don’t like the MFTS on the later bikes. I stuck with my 2019 GSA in the end when looking to update it. A small part because of this but also when I was looking, BMW couldn’t guarantee anything more than a Halogen Headlight (which I would have to pay to get swapped out when the new one was available). No thanks.
Great vid.
NOTE for US users. The US Models function like the older 2016-2019 Models. Rear Turns are that only. Center is RUN/Brake as previous.
Just to be pedantic... Mark at Weiser Technik would prefer if these lights were not referred to as DRL's (i.e. Daytime Running Lights) because dedicated DRL's are not designed to be used at night in some countries such as the UK. Weiser Technik refer to these as "driving lights" and as such intend them to be used at any time.
Also my TH-cam pal Carl at his channel "Just The Way It Is" has several in depth videos regarding these lights (inc. two excellent installation videos) and I also have a video of me fitting them to my R1250R... a 2021 (Euro5) bike without multifunction turn signals :)
Thanks Ricky. Im sure you can appreciate Mark and I have spent quite a bit of time getting these products stocked on our shelves here at A Bike Thing. I'm fully aware of Carls excellent videos. Later in the year I'll be bringing another video showing ezcan compatibility with these lights too. We have videos on our channel showing full GS and GSA strip downs too. I don't feel we need to make a Weiser specific installation video in huge detail as the enclosed instructions are very easy to follow.
@@ABIKETHING It's great that you are stocking them and getting the word out about these lights - I certainly appreciate the extra illumination and functionality they bring to the bike. As a CanSmart owner I'll be keeping an eye out for your compatibility content too 😊 Keep up the good work!
@@ABIKETHING Nope. You're 'screw-by-screw' instructions are easy to follow when installing your Denali packages, but these are not at all. Not even close.
If only you were closer, I'd be getting these, that's for sure!
Where are you? You dont fancy fitting them yourself?
@@ABIKETHING I'm a bit far from you, I'm in New Zealand 🇳🇿
@@LordGrievous1970 Me too. When you find something local please let us know.
@Brian and Vanessa Stone are you in NZ too?
Everything you are saying about those indicators is correct .. front and back..
Someone sat in an office thinking they have a good idea . Not at all . (Desk wanker). Must be a none bike rider . People interfering with what everyone understands and See's . Well done weiser,👏👏👏👏👏👏but the opposite indicator needs to go out . Stop showing red brake light so it is fully clear the the people behind what you are intending to do. Scrap that no brake light indicator at all just indicators only
Greetings from spain!! Nice video!
I would love to see an install video showing how to install Weiser with the Denali CanSmart, if it is possible.
Carl from the way it is does a great instal video
@@aymarx1 I second that - his installation video is excellent! Not sure I'd have managed a DIY install just from the supplied instructions but Carl's video kept me right.
The front lights. Do they display white at night or are they just daytime running lights?
Also, the website offers extended length indicators… the ones installed in the video are these the medium length pls? Cheers
They stay on at night but we can change this if we put them through the ezcan and set the white light to do what we want when we want. I have medium on front and short on back in this video
Nice bit of kit ..but I would certainly question plug and play ?
It's not.
The multifunctional turn signals aren't available in bikes in North America fyi.
They are.
Hi, got the combination set a few weeks back and still have not got around to fitting them 🙄 Just watched the install video again and noticed you mention that they can be wired using an EXCAN circuit rather than the relay. I have spare circuits on my EXCAN (only running a set of Denalis). Is it simply a matter of connecting the relay wires onto the EXCAN circuit rather than fitting the relay to the battery and splicing into the bike wiring? I would rather splice in into the EXCAN circuit rather than the OEM. The bike is a 2019 1250GS.
PS - if there was an easy to purchase connector that would save all the splicing that would be even easier 😁
EXCAN is predictive text of ezCAN 🙄
Do the tinted weiser lenses cut down on light output to any noticable extent?
Hi Steve, Great video and lots of details as always. I like them. They appear to be currently only available to BMW bikes. I recently bought a Triumph Tirger 1200 GT Pro and would really like to pick up a set for it. Do you know if there are plans to release sets for this bike?
Hey, when are the mirrored headlight protectors available? Thanks, they look awesome.
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Hi Steve - or anyone else, so I have the ezCan that you fitted for me (thanks!) - I'm sure I have a spare socket free, if so does that mean it's even simpler to install. I.e they plug into the same OEM sockets and the one wire goes into the ezCan? Thanks
So what wire needs to be routed to a EZcan if not using the relay?
Hi did you ever installed a stereo or speakers on the gs …. I would like some music on mine
Steve, I didn’t see it in the video but how much of the tank etc has to come off to wire the front up? I’ve done it before for some D4s but not sure if same effort involved to retrofit these? Thanks. Great vid
I took the whole thing off and did it at the same time as the D4's. It would be quite vulnerable if you didn't, especially considering how thin the wires are.
I wonder if they would work on a 21 s1xr
I’m a little confused, I see all the options on what size stem for the turn signals, are you using the oem stems and just replacing the CB? If not, what size stems did you use? I’ve got a 2019 GSA.
To me, looks like medium stem front and short stem at the rear.
are the stalks in the rear the short lenth one?, or are they medium stalk?, thanks........
Short
Can the cam smart do this for tiger 900
Steve??😊
It’s not a cansmart video. You’re commenting on a Weiser video and currently Weiser don’t have these lights for the Triumph Tigers
SPOT THE MISTAKE...?
I think that you might have fitted to indicators on the wrong sides initially. You had the drain holes at the top 😂
I claim my prize of a free set 🤞
Well spotted 😂😂😂. We spotted but thought I’m not filming all of that again……no one will notice 😂
@@ABIKETHING I'm currently saving to get a lights and horn pack fitted, I'll now be adding the indicators. I'll be in touch once the piggy bank is full 👍
Hey Steve, nice video. That project bike looks awesome. I currently ride a KTM890 adventure and was wondering if weiser make any of these for other makes and not just BMW’s because these are great looking lights?
Yes, absolutely. They fit the majority of bikes. I’m just focussing on the beemers to begin with and then will expand but if you select the weiser lights for the 2013 to 2020 model, these will work on the KTM
Awesome, cheers for the advise.
Steve, I’m currently using all 4 circuits on my EzCan. Would wiring the trigger wires to an EzCan splitter cable (I have two on the shelf) work better in lieu of a relay in this circumstance? If so, would I need one or two splitters (one for front and one for rear)? Or just use the relay? I have a 2020 GSA.
Hi, positaps come in the kit so you can join front to rear anyway (saves on buying a splitter) but then the one wire can go to one circuit as a light pair and this would mean you wouldn't need a relay.
Hi, bro, I have purchased one headlight cover still haven't received.
Email us with your order number. They can’t do customer service on TH-cam comments
@@ABIKETHING #37472
@@ABIKETHINGbro,what's your email address for me to send the information?
I don’t ride a GS, and wasn’t aware of this issue at all, but begs a question - How on Earth did this pass the board meeting? Do they not care about safety? How did they get TÜV (or whatever the German technical inspection association name is) approval? It’s ridiculous. I also hate my Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports amber running lights on turn signals. Makes no sense. If they don’t glow white what’s the point. All it does is create more confusion among already heavily distracted drivers.
You make a valid point
It does make sense - amber/yellow lights are perceived more easily than white bulbs in daylight, and there is research (albeit limited) to suggest that amber drls on motorcycles increase safety over white drls. Again, given that they have been on Hondas for years I think we'd have some evidence by now that they are a singular cause of accidents rather than rider or driver error.
In the US, Weezer is a band that sings a song about a sweater. Wieser would be similar. ‘Weiser’ is pronounced as ‘kerplunk’ here in the US.
Hi Steve if using with EzCan on older bike can you make front turn signals into DRL’s?
Yes you can but you need to attend to the dash error you’ll get when you unplug them from the bike and reconnect to ezcan. If however you buy these Weiser lights, you can just plug them in and they’ll be a DRL that flashes when you indicate
If my GS already has LED turn signals is the relay circuit still required?
Yes they are if you want the DRL feature
Strange i got a 2022 and it does not have multi fuction lights
Ur in USA?
@@ABIKETHING yes, so if i dont have the multi fuction. then this wont work for my bike?
Thes lights are brilliant and they solve in my opinion a dangerous problem…. However weisser need to make them plug and play… the need for an additional wiring loom and having to Mickey Mouse a feed from the rear lights is not for me… when weisser fix this I will purchase immediately.
Things are not quite the same for bikes in North America, but I'd love to install a set front and back for the same reasons you have.
anyone know if there is a way bmw can turn off front and rear drl? I absolutely hate them on my 23gs. Dangerous and hardly visible .
We have something coming soon
That will be very interesting
@@ABIKETHING hope it’s just as simple as nothing happens on the lights until I indicate then nothing happens again when I cancel them. I have asked BMW what was wrong with standard clear as day lights as they are horrendous . They have no answer but you can purchase without the “lighting pack” which will be standard indicators apparently.
Agree that the BMW combo indicators are a potential problem.
BUT. The Weiser indicators are bloody AWFUL, FAT great things with lens screws which are always a problem given time!
When you see them taken apart they look cheap and nasty plastics!
Odd that Honda riders don't seem to have the issue that some GS riders do? Accidents happen, and there is no good way of knowing whether this was down to the front lights. As bike riders, we all experience cars pulling out from junctions by mistake, and I can't say that the number of such incidences has increased for me over the old indicators vs the new. Too easy to blame the equipment.
As for the rear, many modern cars have the same multi-cluster format in which the brake light washes out the indicator. But if the rider is only indicating near or at the time he or she brakes, then perhaps that rider needs to reassess their roadcraft. It should be a non-issue.
Just get your dealer to turn off your front DRLs.
They won't all do it. Plus these Weiser lights make us even more visible
@@ABIKETHING you are correct. That’s why our CEO invented a tail indicator solution. You know that was of course as you wanted to be his sole distributor.
Nice things but WAY TOO EXPENSIVE. Im in South Africa so the exchange rates are insane. Can unfortunately not follow you any longer. Ironically I just bought a brand new 1250 gS. Beautiful gear non the less. Go well 😢
They should have a fix from firmware. You go to the bmw dealership and they only click some buttons while the bike is connected to their laptop and be done with it.
1. turn on/off position light on central light
2. turn on/off position light from turn signals
2a. turn on/off position light while signaling from turn signals
3. turn on/off brake light from turn signals
3a. turn on/off brake light while signaling from turn signals
It's should have been that easy, a few on/off switches on the firmware software updater canbus thing-a-magig, but alas, it's not.
These weiser lights are terrible imho. They are bulky, ugly and the screw is at the front of the lense? not even at the back? pfff. Where as the bmw turn signals are sleek, sexy and not a horrible dot matrix.
That and the fact you have to tap into factory wiring, and connecting a relay to the battery, that's not what plug and play means, Steve. I think that all of the modifications you've done over the years have gone to your head if you think using posi taps is plug and play 😬
In conclusion, it's a no from me. I have the 2022 GSA with multifunction 1 and multifunction 2 options fitted from the factory and I'm perfectly happy with them. Please note that I rode over 16.000 kilometers within 6 different european countries with my bike.
While I agree that the bmw solution is dodgy at best, I never had an issue with the amber DRL's at the front. And on the rear, I simply turn on my indicators before I have to brake. It's what every driver should do, even the ones in cars/trucks/buses.
There is also a traffic rule for that. You are required by law to use your blinker 50 meters before the intersection in a town and 100 meters outside of it. It's that simple.
What's the point of turning on the signal as you're making the turn? It makes no sense but I've seen plenty of drivers doing it. Even drivers turning left from the first lane instead of switching to the second lane and then performing the turn (while driving on the right side of the road)
I would also argue that there are bad drivers everywhere and I highly doubt installing these ugly yet less shady lights would make the bad drivers pay more attention to you or be less bad.
But even though I don't personally like the weiser product, it's always good having multiple options to chose from. However, I will stick with my factory OEM multifunction indicators for now.
I'm so disappointed with this video. I kept telling Weiser they should get Steve to make one of his step-by-step videos because the product is so good, but not easy and not plug-n-play. Steve is just selling the product and not showing the trickiest bits of the installation. Sorry Steve, but this is not of your typical quality videos. Some issues are:
1. The instructions included are for Europe and the diagram doesn't apply to the US. No specific diagram for the US. The written instructions are totally confusing and I needed direct support from Weiser to translate to US bikes. Their instructions are just lazy. Almost AliExpress level quality.
2. No information about which wire to tap for switched brake light power. Evem with direct support I tapped more than one before I got the right one and then had to repair wire.
3. The L-shaped lock for the outer lens cover doesn't fit properly. I broke as many as I didn't and needed to trim some plastic off on the ones that didn't break. It's just a poor fit and needs to be hacked a bit.
4. Not a lot of extra cable between the ground and power, so if you want to run power through one cable raceway and ground through another, such as using a PDM, you don't have a lot of flexibility.
5. The longer stems are too long for the GS/GSA if you're going off-road and will have the bike falling over, especially on an incline. They sent me the longer ones and I raised this concern, and it took only a few days off-road to break one of them. Then I broke some of the replacements because of issue #3. The support from Wieser was amazing though. When I told them what happened and reminded them of my initial concerns, they sent the replacements for free, and when I called because the new ones didn't fit properly and were breaking, they were very responsive. I still had to trim them myself and keep a broken one because they just don't fit properly.
This is one of the most valued safety upgrades I've done on my bike. I don't regret it. However, it would only take a couple of hours to create a detailed video to address almost all of these issues, especially for US bikes, and make it so much easier to install. Someone needs to create a video to address the issues above, and also maybe create some best practice in how to wire it because there is a lot of excess wire and it's very thin. I know what I did, but I'm sure there are better options.
Not as bad as what Weiser offers, but not 'a Bike Thing' standard either.