- DUENDER: Part 1 - I converted 2 Creality Ender-3 into one fast CoreXY printer
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- Hi everyone. And welcome to my new channel about 3D printing and all about it. In this video I would like to tell you about my small project. Duender - Conversion of two old Creality Ender-3 into one fast printer with CoreXY kinematics.
This is the first part in which I will tell you why I decided to take on this project and what difficulties I faced in the initial stages.
Write in the comments, are you interested in this project, should I continue making videos about it?
My Patreon, for those who can and want to support the channel financially:
/ irbis3d
As well as a link for regular donations. Thank you in advance.
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Your english is much better than my Russian (aka none), and i don't think you need to worry about it all. Great video and super interesting
Thanks!
A good Russian accent sounds cool anyways
Lolol just casually drops that he made his OWN AMU
I think there will be an interesting video from this topic with a lot of useful information about creating macros. In the near future.
@@Irbis3D Yes - I vote for this video next ! Would be great to see other designs\ideas ...
Thanks
I have 4 ender 3 sitting around with upgraded boards and hotends, I would love to convert them and get 2 core XY printers out of them.
Keep it up!
Your search for reducing VFA is outstanding. And as many others have mentioned you have no reason to apologize about your English, it’s great as well. While I have no desire to modify an Ender3, as a retired engineer, I find this whole project immensely interesting. 🤔
@@philipershler420 I think the VFA war has just begun. There are a few more options that I plan to try. But, to be honest, victory is still far beyond the horizon.
@@Irbis3DJust a thought , that may well be useless, is there any possibility that the belts themselves may be resonating? Perhaps trying wider belts or adjusting belt tensions might rule this sort of scenario in or out.
In some situations, these may be belts. Sometimes switching to 10mm helps. Sometimes it helps to change the number of teeth on the motor pulley. I have tried two belts so far, both Gates GT2, but different models and stiffness. Even with different tension, it does not have any effect at all. I suspect that at this stage I need to change the config to idlers with new larger bearings. I used idlers with M3 bore, and there are very small bearings. And during the experiments, I managed to damage them and now they are wobble, perhaps unevenly rotating balls cause vibrations. Therefore, the changes do not bring obvious improvements. In general, the path to a stable and convenient printer has many obstacles, but nothing is impossible))
Excited to see you finally bringing your expertise to the English speakers. 🎉 congrats bro.
Thanks Bro! It would hardly be possible without the motivation received from you.
Geez! It's always cool when one of my favourite youtuber comments another one =)
Yes please, more than happy to watch a series of how-to videos on converting ender 3 to core xy. There are lots of enders here going really cheap as people get rid of them. You can cure your problem with drilling aluminum parts more accurately by making 3d drill formers/drill guides for the plates (especially if you need to make more than one). I use brass tubes pressed into the 3d parts as guides for the drill bits. Turns out really accurate with simple hand tools.
I used plastic guides for cutting and drilling. Without it, I would never have cut them well enough. But due to the quality of the saw and drill bits, not everything turned out perfect.
I already found a subscriber with CNC))))
Please do continue this project.
It’s genuinely refreshing to see something new.
I’ve wanted to do something like this for a long time. I’d love more info in future videos. At least to the point where we, the viewers, can take a stab at the project on our own.
I have two ender 3 pros printers and been thinking to get Bambu Lab, Then I had the thought to combine them into one and figured to search and see if anyone else did it. your video is the first one I came across. I salute you for the effort you put into this build.
your English is better then some of my native friends English, don't worry about it at all.
Oh yeah, I also integrated a bambu hotend, and a filament cutter. Dit I already tell you about my homemade AMS? Crazy, well done!
Idk why you russians say hey sorry for my bad english then speak way better english then most non english speakers. Such a cool project! Great job man god bless.
Your english is great and russian accents are cool
Im getting a prusa and have 2 ender clones so im super excited for this as a project
Доброго времени Ирбис. Непривычно слышать вас на английском, но рад что вы снова в эфире! ! !
Привет. Собственно, цель грамотно обозначена в конце видео. Текущие реалии таковы, что купить готовый крутой принтер и модернизировать старый, стоит одинаково по деньгам. Но если делать RepRap, то можно потратить еще массу времени и нервов на сборку и настройку.
Так что все верно, кому печатать, те мимо, кому хочется поиграть в конструктор, те добро пожаловать.
По той же причине мало кто соберет Voron, из его очевидных преимуществ это большой стол, но сборка, настройка это тот еще квест. Готовый бамбук с мультипечастью стоит как набор для сборки Voron с одним экструдером. Скорость печати у бамбука - мое почтение, что получится с Voron зависит от того сколько времени ты потратишь на настроку.
Так что нет, сейчас RepRap это дело энтузиастов)
(аналогичная ситуация с самосборными беспилотниками случилась)
Ну и ответ на твой вопрос) да, пили еще видео, если не жалко, поделись модельками, у меня есть древний micromake c1, который был такой убогий что никогда в жизни ничего не печатал, выкинуть жалко, но это большая для меня радость, если получится что-то собрать из него толковое.
P.s. есть подобные проекты, вот один из них: belt3dprinterkit.com/ можно купить готовые детали (сложно, в нынешней обстановке), а можно самому все напечатать
Сергей, Вы молодец во всех смыслах. Жму руку!
I love stuff like this. Also casually designing and creating your own printers and accessories from scratch is just wow.
BRO! your project is I N S A N E. please do show us everything. youre a goddam artist
I really like this build! Especially before linear rail conversion since it stays closer to spirit of reuse.
The modern Voron-style belt run has an advantage, that although it needs at least two more idlers, the belt is turned inside out so all idlers but two contact the belt on the smooth side. Smooth idlers or flanged bearing pairs are more reliable and cheaper than quality toothed idlers, but running belt teeth over smooth idlers under higher tensions causes oscillation, this is why this path is preferred. Of course preferred doesn't mean that it outright solves any or all problems, just that there's fewer problem opportunities.
I have found a HUGE difference between just random toothed idlers you might buy somewhere, and actually good deep groove machined toothed idlers. Printed toothed idlers didn't perform much better or worse than cheap toothed idlers, neither engaged the belt at the spine, neither were better than smooth idlers, and i also broke the printed idlers by belt tension rather soon. Actual good toothed idlers are glorious though.
One can use bumpstop alignment for Z axis. Basically during homing or pre-print operation, you drive the Z motors near to the limit, then drop the motor current or motor speed and gently ram a mechanical limit. You don't need sensorless homing for that, but it's fundamentally similar, and you can use a single channel to drive both.
I also have a feeling that extending the Z down with underslung motors and maybe little extension feet if need be would be nicer than cutting the acme screws. The metal of these rods is not pleasant to hand saw.
I've already made almost all of these changes. And in a couple of days I will post the first release version of Duender and a video about the build.
The belt is already turned forward with teeth.
Idlers have been replaced with F623RS flange bearings.
I also moved the Z-axis motors inwards and downwards, although it turned out that the lead screws were still too long.
That diy AMU is hella cool, i'd like to see a video on it!
I'm going to make the next video about it.
At some point we all have too many printer we no longer use. This idea is not just genius but also inspiring,
Great stuff. I have 25 Ender-3's in a print farm, and they are highly tuned, good quality machines with a few tiny but critical modification I make as a standard package. I keep looking at maybe replacing them with modern machines, but they work well enough, just more slowly. If I can turn 2 machines into 1 twice as fast, that could be worth doing, as it will sometimes increase and sometimes decrease capacity, but it will free up space for more modern machines!
do not say sorry for your english, it seems perfectly fine to me. You earned a subscriber just from the video alone as I do not have my ender 3 anymore. Great video
Thanks and welcome))
Subbed and shared. Very interesting video. Welcome to English TH-cam, friend!
This is soooooo cool. Really looking forward to more on this.
I guess you already read the comments about your english.. so let me say that this video was very cool to watch. I just love how people are actually skilled enough to go through a "new" build and take 2 printers and combine them to 1.
Thank you for such a great video, your projects are extremely inspiring! I spent December overhauling my original Ender 3, there is a lot to be said about the ease of modification of the base design and components. With only a random assortment of spares, an old pi3b+ and some printed parts to convert to direct drive/cable manage I have the machine running Klipper with direct drive far faster than ever before. I wish you much success with the english channel as i have very much enjoyed both videos, you speak clearly and the information is well presnted. Good luck!
It's a duende! A real life duende! I've heard stories about these but I've never thought I'd _see_ one!
🤣
I'm very interested in giving my Ender 3 V2 a second life! This project looks very promising and I would love to see more videos about it
honestly, your english is far superior to most of the native russian speakers i've known over the years - i just wish i hadn't lost so much of the russian i learned. ender 3s are useful for a lot of projects, whether they remain printers or not. i've seen some become cnc machines, others become dedicated laser engravers, etc. i personally have an ender 3 neo that's in process of becoming an e3ng & an ender 3 v2 that's about to become a corexz running a manta e3ez with cb2 (mostly because i like the idea of keeping 1 bed slinger, whereas all my other printers are corexy). diy 3d printers are a tinkerer's dream, honestly, & i'm glad you're getting as much enjoyment & ideas out of them as i do. i'm looking forward to seeing where your dual ender project goes. 😊
I agree 100%. Old printers are a great material for new projects. By the way, on the old channel I made a video about how to use an old board from 3d printers to create projects completely different from printers. For example, I made there a 3-axis slider for the camera from an 8-bit board from Ender-3. Maybe it makes sense to update that video at some point and release it in English.
@@Irbis3Di think that's a great idea! i'll probably pick up another ender or something similar just for parts at some point, possibly more than one. i'd like to have a dedicated laser engraver & wantto build a cnc machine at some point - the parts will come in handy.
Сначала расстроился, что канал стал на английском. Однако потом я понял, что в принципе мне понятно, о чём идёт речь в видео. Теперь буду не только смотреть контент на тему 3Д печати на вашем канале, но и подтягивать английский. Спасибо, что не останавливаетесь, удачи в дальнейшем в развитии!!!
I have an old Ender Pro and I think an S1, so not the same printers, but I've often thought about trying to combine them into something like this, very cool video and I look forward to any additional videos on the subject!
Nice project! Let's combat the Bambulab community with our prime enthusiasm to build and modify our own 3D-printers! Btw would be interesting to get an overview comparing the 3D-market in different countries, there're lots of smaller start-ups, what's their path, in which directions they develop.
Awesome video Irbis. Hey - your English is far better than many people who are born and "educated" in the USA. Please keep the videos coming, and, let's learn something together. I am definitely interested and am considering building one myself. I have already built a couple of CNCs.
Talent and smarts have no verbal boundaries... Subbed and stunning first video! Thanks 🙏🥇📸📷👍💯
Congratulations!! Very nice project!!
Great start for a new TH-cam channel! I started the first modifications on my Ender 3 using your old video)
I'm looking forward to your build files!
This is exactly what I'm looking for =), i have a heavy modifyed ender 3v2 and 7, and recently got a P1S, before i always pland to corexy my ender 3 since it allready prints super silent and quite fast, the ender 7 motion system is just to loud and it needed some modivication to have decent quality. With the p1s i had suddenly a day/night expericence, i always thought my ender 3 with all his modification is a good printer, but the ease of use if the p1s totaly opened my eyes.. BUT it is super loud. And i need at least one printer which i could run at any time of the day. An corexy ender with rigdig frame and using rollers is a perfect compromise. (and i have a secound ender 3 v2 sealed in an box) :)
thank you for opening up your content to the international comunity, it looks like you have asweseome projects coming up. I would like to follow up on your videos =)
I have 1x original Ender 3, 1x Ender 3 pro and 1x Ender 3 v2. All of them having some problems so I can't use them anymore. It will be great to up-cylce them into a simple working core xy printer. Not expecting a quality a brand new coreXY thro. thank you for the info. I am sure there are lots of Ender 3 out there collecting dusk but owners not willing to sent them recycle yard yet.
Converted my old Tevo over to CoreXY about 5-6 years ago. (My Tevo pre-dates Enders) So many old Enders out there. Better to recycle them then to toss them in a landfill. You really got a nice project and a new subscriber. :)
Thank you for doing it, i've always wanted to do it but never got past the cad model. My version was called endender 3, but not a corexy
This is very literate. I find it very interesting. I'll probably sign up.
Recommendation before getting into the multi colour/material management stuff. Get the core XY perfect.
You have inspired me to do a cr-10 conversion to corexy!!! Im buying my second one off ebay for parts not working to save on costs since i just need the extra frame parts! I'll probably used jlpcb or something like that for custom metal parts if they get complicated.
Great video, and thank you for taking the time to create it! I'm very interested in your Klipper configuration-please share that video if possible; it would be awesome. Also, if you can, I’d love to see a video on how you created your AMU. I’m fascinated by the idea of using multi-material with my 3D printer!
I’m actually making a very similar project but it’s a flying gantry setup and will have a chamber heater using the extra bed and it’s fully enclosed with the option of using the v-wheels or rails and in total I think it should cost about $150 usd. It’s cool seeing the same concept but executed completely differently. Also those vfa’s are probably the steppers as keep in mind that they are quite old and so getting new ones may help there
Great video.
And your english is just fine!
Keep the good work going! :)
Hello, Irbis 3D!
I have been looking around for a project like this for a long time. As you mentioned at the end of your video, it would be only worth doing this conversion if you already had two Ender 3s laying around. Actually, I do.
Please, continue with this series!
If I could help you in any way, please, get in touch!
You got a new subscriber 😊👍
Looking forward to the series.
You are a very talented person and your English is just fine! Thank you for your videos!
good work, keep going!! i’ve also decided to start converting my old ender3 into coreXY and have hit the same issues with vfa, i even went through similar design changes. My current thinking is the hotend/extruder is too heavy on mine, but im planning on testing 0.9 degree motors first on mine
Seryoga bliat kakogo huia ? ) just comment for support the channel 😅
;-)
o, vi iz Anglii ?
Zemlyaki, zdarova!)
verry much interested in the remainder of the project. seening that you have already moved on to MGN rails in the shorts that you have already posted.
this is great! work! keep it up!
Hello, nice to have found you on TH-cam. Your English is fantastic, no apology (ever) required. Looking forward to seeing more of your content.
New subscriber. We need MORE of this.. repurposing old printers into new current generation type printers. Good job!
Круто!
Я свой Ender 3 V2 пока что только пересадил на Klipper (на стоковой мамке) и сделал Belted-Z от KevinAkaSam.
Твой проект очень вдохновляет. Спасибо!
Brilliant! Please share everything, I have 2 ender3 printers one pro one standard but both are modified with new boards and a few other things. They are collecting dust and I have always wanted to built a core xy but the money has always been the issue. Again, please share everything, I will absolutely build this, thanks for your time and brilliance
It is already on Printables. Check the last video on this channel)
This has been on my mind for the multiple cr10 machines i have. My ender 5 already got the corexy pill.
This project looks great! I specially like it since it would allow a lot of people that don't have access to more modern printers to make something better with already available hardware! Not to mention im all for recycling and improving old tech! (It always felt like there was an optimization puzzle waiting to be solved there but never had enough time to invest on it!)
Hope you keep going with this project! And even if you dont, maybe consider make it open source, people could do wonders with this!
Good to see you and your new video on your new channel)❤
Hopefully someday I'll go back to my home country and upgrade my old ender 3 to coreXY. 👍
This was great, would love to hear more about it. I dig on Repurposing old tech, it's better then the alternative
Thank you for the great work. I wish you good luck and achive new skills.
I have been looking for someone to pave the way with this! There are so many used ender 3s out there.
Glad to see your videos again, keep up the good work! Great idea, now I'm thinking about upgrading my older 3D printer too
This is exactly the case when two printers together will print one part twice as fast!
I’m doing the same at the moment but slightly different! You beat me to it 😂
Id love to see everything you talked about in this video from configuring software to printing it my self maybe even including models to used the original roller wheels or linear rails depending what ya got to build it and salvaging as many parts as possible and options weather you got the first ender 3 or the new ones do weather you got 20x20 profiles or 40x40 ones and if you got a ender 3v 2 and have the better screen and depending what extruders I personally got the sprite pro for mine and id love to use that for this if I ever get to build it I cant wait to see what you design for this project I cant wait to eventually build it turning older printers in to very useful ones again
I will definitely do this, as the project is interesting to people. It will take time to create different modifications. As well as financial investments to test different configurations. I hope all this will happen and this project will be able to grow))
@@Irbis3DI can’t wait to see it man I got notifications on so I’ll be waiting best of luck on ideas
I would love to see a full lipped install/setup guide
I love it! Give me more!
second life of the v-slot profile)good luck in your new place
Поздравляю с новым шагами... не останавливайся у тебя получается
Yes. A conversation video would be good to see
With pleasure will periodically watch old your channel and new as well. Lot of educational stuff. Good luck🙋🏻♂️
Very interesting! Thank you for sharing and your efforts to build the AMU!
Yes, it is very interesting to see more videos on duender
Yea your english is just fine! Keep the english videos coming and you will gain subscribers quick.
Very interesting project and good idea! Thank you for your efforts!
I've already bought 2x Ender 3 and am looking forward to learning more. Could you possibly release just the current state of the project as an early beta?
You know "release good - release early"... Sometimes it is better to wait for a perfect state and the project has the potential to build a really good community.
Good luck!
Your printer specs are impressive!
10K acceleration and 300mm/s speed is pretty cool actually!
Many printers originally designed as CoreXY solutions can not reach these specs!
A very interesting channel. I subscribed, searched for similar content for a long time, my friends and I are assembling a similar design in the garage!
Stay tuned)))
Hope all is well with you. Just a comment in support of your new channel, from Russia with love.
please DO make all this available id love to make a project like this a reality!
Thank you man. Really interested in your project!
Epic build 💪
Don't worry about your English, it sounds ok. Far better than an average non-native has.
I've made own CoreXY printer from the scratch. But it really cost much more then the same by Creality or even by Bambu. Well let it be, I comfort myself with the fact that it was just for fun and my own engineering experience)
Subscribed.
Great! Waiting for next part. Good luck!
I am looking forward to see your multi-material unit video ))))
I hope you will keep up with this channel
I will do my best)))
I'm glad you're back. Russian, English is not important (online translation decides). The main thing is that the topic of the video is interesting. I am very interested in your AMS version. The idea of such a construction hovered in my head. Good luck in the development of the new channel.
keep it up i love the aesthetic and the idea behind this video
Great project, and happy to see a new, good 3D Printing channel. Thanks! Subbed! (Я преподавал семестр в Санкт-Петербурге и мне отчаянно не хватает вкусного кваса!)
Very helpful information, Sergey! Looking forward to more videos!
Ну что-ж, с возвращением, Сереж :) Хорошая идея заняться просвещением западной аудитории. Мне кажется стоит в описаниях к видео давать ссылку на свой прежний канал, благо сейчас вовсю процветают нейросетки, позволяющие смотреть иноязычные видео с синхронным переводом (и даже с озвучкой).
I'm interested in this project. I got 4 ender 3 collecting dust. looking forward on this.
Great video! Super interesting idea that I haven’t seen before! Subscribed!
Yes please do a conversion video
Thankyou it is amazing, im new to setting up firmware and would to understand how you go about it , many thanks
nice video, hope to see more crazy videos about salvaging printers in to new 3d klipper printers.
looks better than the popular coreXY conversion that basically replaces basically every component. At that point just build a trident
Defiantly need to make a video on that AMU
pretty good project for hobbyist with little money, many people are selling their used ender 3's so a cheap alternative for a corexy build.!
also upcycling, re-using. avoiding e-waste and all that. :D
Cool man .!!welcome again to Lord TH-cam
Отличный проект! Есть у меня 2 неиспользуемых Эндера и как же долго я думал над подобной идеей к сожалению из-за нехватки времени так и не удавалось даже начать. Как же здорово увидеть что у кого то все таки это получилось! Проблема с VFA на стоковых моторах Эндера к сожалению очень жестокая и я очень долго боролся с ней не своем Enderwire в конце концов пришел к выводу что проще купить другие моторы и да вы верно подметили что эта проблема есть на всех моторах, но все таки у Эндера это прям болячка.
I'm going to try different motors too. But, oddly enough, on my ender, the vfa was not strong when the motors were isolated from each other. but after installing them on corexy, the problem got worse. Although, I still think that this reason is not the main one.
@@Irbis3D The difference is that CoreXY kinematics requires perfect tension between belts and equal belts length, even small length difference like one tooth will amplify the problem significantly. I know you are experienced user but just in case: I personally really love klippain-shaketune tools it shows perfectly the resonances and speeds that will affect print quality. Also TMC Autotune might help to battle artefacts as well.
Belts of the same length. The tension was adjusted by sound. Thank you so much for these tools, I will definitely use them. I tried changing the TMC parameters manually, but it did not bring obvious results.