Great video as always. Hey I was wondering if you're going to have any Hoodies available at your store soon? Also I know you read all these so I wanted to throw something out there, its a long shot but maybe you'll like the idea. I was thinking your logo with the large M, even larger X (like how you already have it) but then the REVIVAL inside one leg of the X. So basically just taking the revival part and fitting it inside the X in a different color. Then the MX could be bigger and centered on the front of the hat. For all I know you already played around with the logo like that and it didn't look good, but it sure looks good in my head. I would totally rock a hoodie or hat or bike graphics like that. Please don't think I'm saying I don't like it the way it is, I guess I just like symbols more than words on apparel. I'm probably just weird but I bet there's more weirdos like me out there. Maybe you could do a limited run variant of that logo and see if it sells, I'll be your first buyer, but you gotta sign it cuz I know your channel is gonna blow up! Thanks for reading. Love the channel!
You and other riding enthusiasts are the whole reason that SSR has survived over the years. I was the operations manager there at SSR from '06-'07, back before they had standard sized bikes in their lineup. William and his crew (like JR now) have always had an open ear to suggestions for improvements from all levels - your average customer to industry specialists. However it's guys like you that are the big bonus: you give your honest opinion to both the company and the would be buyers, and you provide solid solutions for shortcomings you have found. I wish you were around when I was there! Keep it up, and you've gained another sub here for sure. Peace...
Mtn Duck Thank you, they were awesome & extremely accommodating! That’s killer, where are you working now?? We are having fun & I think modern day media outlets & styles will benefit by this type of thing now more than ever. Super cool getting to work with some of the people currently involved. I expect it to blossom too. I appreciate the killer comment! -Charles // mXrevival
@@mxrevival When I parted ways with SSR on a good note, it was a big shift - I joined the US Border Patrol. Since then, I've been lucky to be on some amazing teams: the Horse Patrol Unit, the ATV Unit, and we're trying to get the MX Unit up and going in my area (SoCal). It's been quite a ride! I still keep in touch with SSR though. Good times are never forgotten, but always looking forward to the next.
I'm so happy to see ssr making big moves. I hate when ppl talk down on Chinese bikes when their as capable. Hopefully In the next year's ssr will make a name for itself!
The main complaint with bikes like the SSR300 is they're a blatant rip off of Hondas with 0 repercussions, I understand thats how they keep the cost down because they don't have to put in a bunch of time designing the bike but it still rubs people the wrong way
The problem I’ve had with Chinese bikes is the quality of the parts used! They look great from new and the engines tend to be solid, but the nuts and bolts are cheap and they fall apart after any amount of wet.
@@dealspeed6756 that's the same anywhere though! car company copying off other manufacturer, shoe brand, etc... it's no difference! people just hate on chinese brand because they market it for a cheap price.
Dude, you deserve a sponsorship from SSR. You have single handedly put them on the map. They are on my shopping list because of your reporting. It’s new SSR vs. used “many.” 😝
I really appreciate that Mark! If we can get them to let me in as a dealer of parts, without being a full model line dealer (which I wouldn't mind someday) then I'll be able to get you guys sorted better than the local dealers it seems.
If any of you SSR owners want some performance mods my man Joe Henner of Henner Motorsports in Syracuse ,NY does porting for these and he also has a advanced timing key that helps this bike rev out better... Charles you should get one of the timing keys...it kind of works like an ECU mod....Thanks for all your videos and work with this brand ..There are like no videos out in world about them..a true diamond in the rough...and value .
NIce! Is it a stepped woodruff key type of thing? Advances the timing a bit? You are very welcome. Thanks equally for your interest. I'm glad you are enjoying it, sincerely. 🙏🙏🙏
@@mxrevival , Charles ..yes it is an offset woodruff key ( for our Orion RXB 250 ) it is a 4 degree timing advance that works with a 2 degree advance from a Big Gun Rev Box ....The Zongshen motors are bullet proof, but come in a serious state of De-tune...on purpose I would guess. Anyway check into it Joe Henner @ Henner Motorsports on Facebook..... P.S. not trying to over run your comments section/ or promote myself...He is just the BEST guy I have found for knowledge on these Chinese Bikes and Engines/Suspension.
I love the refreshing no bullshit attitude of ssr guy, like fn nails on a chalk board. Cool as shit they let you demonstrate. Hate 4 strokes, but can't hate on underdogs knowing the people that made them have been supplying aftermarket companies for decades. Kickstands, no suspension mods, spark arrestors, and they did ok in trail form on motocross track. Suzuki is wrapping it up and ssr is stepping in, well, give it 5 more years to iron out some details. GasGas is 10000 dollar ktm/husky leftover parts. Bad timing for any internal combustion engine manufacturing companies if the US is trying to ban any new gas engine production in 2035.
@@cawbaird5711 going off on tangent here, sorry, but it might be about control, it iritates the shit out of our greedy asshole government (04ish push for expensive4stroke tax revenue 4 example) they don't have absolute control on the shut off valve from foreign fuel. All they can do is tax the living shit out of it. Our government does not truly give 2 shits about any of the environmental stuff, it just justifies their existence as another government entity. They will however have complete control on every nuke plant, and epa won't have to worry about job security, because electric generation and storage pollution blows soy bean/ fossil fuels right out of cooling rod water. Natural wind, solar, water, power generation will not supply demand, and lithium is a limited train wreck to mine/ recycle. Lead acid has already created large numbers of superfund sites. Can you imagine any resource they won't take from you and tax/control. They probably got some one thinking of how they can limit sunshine, so they can sell and tax it to you at same time. All the motor manufacturers and oil companies of the world need to start pushing back, because nuclear power generation waste, cooling water for example, takes thousands of years to be able to live near.
Daniel Arney You rock dude. Thank you. Enjoying it for what it is and a lot of guys seem to glide right over that, letting egos guide their responses as if it’s “buy this & not that” style of content. You get it, I appreciate it. And it’s fun as f**k! Can’t lose! Thank you for watching & the cool-as-hell response with great points. -Charles // mXevival
You can tell you know zero about KTM Husqvarna and gas gas company you're just spouting off bullshit that you don't know anything about. But I can almost guarantee you one thing one 20 minute Moto on these bikes banging it off the rev limiter will most certainly end up with engine parts outside of the case.
@@mikelyons469 ktms used to implode, break frames, shocks, triple clamps. I ain't shit, I'll be that. See allot of newer 9g bikes blowing up also. It's a trail bike with potential, and they are going to have lower rpm limits for the average Joe consumer that ain't out to conquer the world, but wants nothing but a good time. Mxa goes to China issue had some nice looking bikes with same manufacturer engine. Don't forget, Japanese bikes, and ktms both played their parts as the underdogs, that's why they hate Chinese bikes, they know it's coming, all their hard work supplying most of the aftermarket with affordable parts because of slave labor of love is going to pay off soon.
Glad I could be that guy for you! Thanks for watching 💪 I've been adding more and more mods to the website all the time for this cool little value bike: www.mxrevival.com/copy-of-shop-tools
I live in China. I just bought a BSE 250F. Its the same bike as as in this video. As mentioned in the video, most, if not all local (Chinese) bike motors are similar. Here they have Nibi as a carb mod. Works wonders. Locally different ECUs are available with 4 maps... The thing revs to the moon in the most aggressive map. Chinese manufacturers have come a long way. Well done guys on the video. Love the content
Thank you! I especially love that you have some genuine insight, and value to provide people in the comments. See enough of the opposite! The nibi is a thing here too. Guys seem to really like it in the Facebook forums. Your BSE 250f has the same body style as this 300? That's pretty cool. We don't have that one here so far as I know. At least not with the 250cc cylinder on it.
Got my 300 last August or September when its first became available here. Sat on it and could tell right away it was the bike for me. Was a bit of strugle at first. Bike wanst even rideable due to carb issues. But the company worked on it to made sure i was a happy customer. Still isnt perfect. But still a good ride. Actually talked my best freind into getting one. Super looking forward to the updated carb and parts being released. And after seeing the updated 21 model, my brother may be buying him one to. We all live in West Virginia and trail ride in the mountains. Appreciate all the info you have made avalable for it.
Whats up my Mountaineer brother. I live in Beckley and just bought one in September also. This is the first bike i have ever owned so its hard for me to compare, but i love it. Its a lot of bike to learn on but it is awesome 🤘🏼
Watch his other video of his initial ride of the bike. He said the carbs are jetted super lean from the factory. He has another video where he replaced the carb with a Lectron and it helped alot. All of his videos are awesome, his channel is gonna blow up.
You are very welcome Paul. Pleasure to have you here & I'm stoked that you "felt it" when you bought yours. I think they are really cozy bikes. I'm looking forward to the new carb too but have also developed a new carburetor with Lectron, just for this bike. www.mxrevival.com/product-page/lectron-carburetors-2020-ssr-motorcycles-sr300 It's another great option for all of us and of course, totally jet-less. I think it will have a leg up on the FCR ultimately BUT I can't wait to test the FCR in a stock platform (these bikes were modded more than my SSR back at the shop) I am thinking that after dialing it in, it will be sweet & jetting can be fun. Please keep us all updated with your bike, and friend's bikes too! -Charles // mXrevival
That bike seems to have a beautiful frame and some nice CNC parts... the Chinese are coming, the Chinese are coming. People don't realize they already buy most of their products, clothing, etc. are made in China. Shop at Walmart lately? China is a HUGE country, and they will continue to figure out quality and overrun Japan and the Euro bikes... speaking of which, some Honda's are made in other countries, besides Japan... even Honda makes some of their products in China. Also, have any of you ever visited China? I spent a month there and the people are SUPER nice. Yes, just like most western people, I have issue with their government, but the people are very much like you and me. Thanks for the video and I believe these new bikes coming out will be just fine for the none pro, weekend warrior.
Finally... someone with a broader, real-world view, and open mind. That's refreshing. No programming and spitting some truth. I agree, and some is even undeniable fact. Thanks for watching, Jed 👍 -Charles // mXrevival
This is so cool! You're a good rider! I only know about Glenn Helen from reading Dirt Bike mag back when Tom 'Wolfman' Webb was the editor. Seeing the track on an actual ride is fantastic! I can tell you're only riding at about 75%, your faster than your buddy aren't you 😁👍! The SSR300 throws a decent roost!
Hey thanks! I'm somewhere in the middle of "fast" & "slow" 😂 This is only my second time going to Glen helen, and the trip before this one, I had only seen it in magazines and on TH-cam myself. It was quite the treat. Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it. The SSR's are a blast 👊 -Charles // mXrevival
You'd think that the older gentleman and this business man that is trying to promote the brand and bring it to many people on TH-cam to get recognized would be a little more forth coming with the bikes and throw pettiness to the side for the sake of the business, you would think.
@@bodeine454 but you have to realise the bikes they had there were still in development so his hesitation was justified. Last think you'd want is a brand that's still in its infancy is to have one of their products fail or have issues on a platform as huge as TH-cam. In reality the SSR guys were very generous.
@@flangmasterj He was talking about how it was a pet peeve of his, how he was proud that he finished a race or races without getting dinged by rocks. It sounded to me like he was just being anal.
I have a FCR41 on my bike,huge power wide open and no issue while starting hot or cold,I did some mods on the cylinder intake manifold !These bikes are awesome!
Great JOb MXR for showcasing a new player. We appreciate ya keeping this interesting. My local dealerships have stayed alive selling these during the shortage of all Manuf this year. It looks like they got smart about stocking parts in US . Thx for being the guy
brother, I'm almost buying a CRF250F, there are a lot of parts and accessories out there, but this SSR looks cool and for the same price, but I wonder if the parts and accessories will be found? this is liquid cooled and the aluminum chassis looks pretty cool but i'm in doubt now.
Have no fear. If you like it, buy it. There are parts available for it everywhere. Not to mention new mods we're doing so you can spend some time modifying your new bike too 🤘 If you like the Honda, that's great too!
Killed it again Charles!! I’d sub again if I could, and I might just have to swoop another 300s to keep set up for the track. The look on JR’s face when you guys had him cornered in the trailer was epic🤣 Keep kill’n it dude, can’t wait for what’s next🤘
Dope that you got on the prototype for all the bikes that came after. I just got an 2001 cr250r. First 2 stroke I have ever had. I love 4 strokes and this is the first time I have seen the ssr 300! Looks like all the kinks are being worked out. When you started from talking and gave it some juice girl grabbed and you two where off. I know you where riding at about 60 percent not be your bike and all. Keep it up bub the info in this video is very useful and helps other unlock the potential of the ssr. Good work.
Pretty cool opportunity huh! Thanks a ton. Yes, bikes are under sprung & first time at Glen Helen. Better to behave so the long drive home wasn't a broken one- you are right! They ran great, it was awesome to try the pumper carbs & I'll keep this up. Thanks for watching! -Charles // mXrevival
I'm impressed with the filming and editing. Usually this type of content is shakey POV and too drawn out and boring. Somehow Charles got me to watch like 2 hour of content on this bike. Bravo 👏
@@Nickporter17 Thanks a TON Nick! I get bored VERY easily & am insanely busy at all times. I try to treat everyone's time as if it were as limited as mine. I will literally even chop out countless single seconds of my breathing within sentences to keep s*it sped up! I even dislike that the first vid on this bike was over an hour, but it had to be. Also learn more about cameras every day, I have become as interested in them, and the art of using them almost as much as I enjoy bikes. I appreciate your kind words & I'll keep 'em speedy🙌 -Charles // mXrevival
@@mxrevival that's cool to hear! You've done well with the audio too. With time I'm sure you'll have a pretty tight a/v process that can rival larger productions. Then boom, you're your own media company! I've gotten way into photography for my solopreneur product shots. Leading to buying a nice fluid head and 500mm lens to film surfers from the beach. Would be rad to get some footage of guys like you on the track for one of your edits.
@@Nickporter17 thank you, definitely difficult with the shotgun mic on the handheld and the internal microphone on the GoPro... Definitely some inconsistencies there. A lot of raising and lowering the volume throughout the editor, as well as stupid things like waiting 10 seconds to talk after firing up the gopro. It does this strange muffling effect when it's initializing or something. That's awesome man, good for you chasing your passion. Cameras are so sick! No one stopping us from linking up and doing some cool s***, that's for sure. Where are you located?
Astonished seeing BSE stamped in the engine, the original brand is Bosuer. I found that in Perú is widely used, I live in Bolivia and I am almost sure that here are branded as Montero HOPEFULLY i'll get mine in december..
So after having put a Lectron on your bike and then having riding the upgraded 2021 model which one runs better? I have a Lectron on my KDX and am days away from picking up my 2021 SR300. Thanks for the input.
I'd like to say I have a definitive answer but I don't just yet! Those bikes had far more than just pumper carbs on them so not really a true comparison. But I'll be able to tests both the Lectron & 2021 stock pumper side by side very soon. -Charles // mXrevival
I appreciate the feedback on the SSR300. I do have a question for you. If you were upgrading from an uncorked TTR230 would you consider this 300 or something bigger for single track and open trails?
My pleasure! I vote SR300- for many reasons: It's full size, has a much better aftermarket parts availability for customization, cheaper OEM parts if needed & I'm constantly creating my own mods for all of us to enjoy! This bike is pure fun & affordable to "trick out". www.mxrevival.com/ssr-motorsports-sr300-modifications The 230 is an incredibly reliable, easy to ride, great resale machine. Uncorked though, not a ton to be found in it. It's also cramped. My wife is 5'9" and was very cramped in the cockpit and therefore had to sit further back past the bike's balance point> The real question is: What do YOU like 😎 -Charles // mXrevival
We're you pinned on that hill after the switch? I wonder how fast they go I want a fun bike maybe I'll get a mini sr189 offside of racing and riding. Or is the crf150r the best mini bike?
Finally the video I've been waiting for ........ I'm really considering getting a SSR, you answered a lot of questions I had. Bikes looked like they handled the track really well. Are the brakes an issue with 2021 SR300 bikes ???
Always here to help you get the answers you need. I think you'd really love this bike. Fun, affordable, plush, plenty of room for really fun mods. I can tell you that the brakes on my personal 2020 are extremely strong, like really really good. I'm wondering if there was something funky going on with one of the test bikes we rode. One of them had a gigantic 270 mm oversized rotor, the one with the headlight. It stopped on a dime! The one Justin was riding first, the more peppy one, he didn't seem to like the brakes but when I got on the bike I also didn't notice. I forgot to pay attention. I am a heavy front-breaker but I also drag my rear brakes over chop so maybe I was mitigating the situation. At any rate, zero complaints from me on the brakes. Hope that helps!
I've never seen anyone but myself and you 2 guys in the video jumping big on the sr300s . I've got the 2020 model to this day bought new, I'm still running the stock carb
They are so cool! I do not believe the MSRP will change for 2021. The only thing that might affect price is the fact that inventory is so low for absolutely everyone, that dealers are getting away with charging more for just about everything.
I just took delivery of mine in Florida, it took about a month from when I ordered it. Was 4399 plus the dealer/tax/etc. Had one shakeout ride so far and it is awesome.
Hello great video. I been looking at the GPX Moto also. These bikes have came a long way. Are all the new SSR going to have these modes. Like the ported heads? An will they come out this year?
Thanks! The GPX oaks pretty cool too. Utah company I believe. Similar deal to SSR! No porting standard, but that’ll be fun for the owners to do! The 2021 will have the new pumper-carb, new cable, new air boot, and should be a huge improvement over the 2020 in terms of mor immediate usability.
Do you know if SSR has the copyright approval for copying CRF parts?? I know there's been litigation issues from Chinese copying other bike parts in the past.
I don't believe so. Sometimes, patents run out and a whole gang of companies will copy something. Kind of like the front brake line routing on all of the modern motocross bikes these days. At one point that was exclusive to Honda now everyone is allowed to run it. Another good example is the pit bike explosion maybe 10 or 15 years ago. Not sure if you're a member all of those Honda clones, but it was a similar situation I believe with Honda's original frame for the 50, and patents. I could be wrong but that's what I remember. I don't know exactly how patents work either, but I would imagine that if something is just different enough, it wouldn't be a problem. For example, the engine in the SSR is so much unlike the CRF in the way that it mounts into the frame, the entire lower cradle is different. Hopefully that's helpful! Thanks for watching, John -Charles // mXrevival
@@mxrevival Cool. The Honda clones were copyrighted through a company called Jailing from memory. I've had industry connections who brought a bunch of Asia Wing bikes to Canada, similar to the SSR. Unfortunately that company does not have permission to produce the CRF almost clones, and opens dealers up to a host of litigation issues. Cool bikes for sure man.
Hey man loving the channel! Ive been off a bike for some time and want back into it. These ssr bikes look great. Im having trouble on deciding on my size though between the 300, and 450. Im 6'5, and around 238. Im not near any so its not like i can sit on one to see. What would you recommend? Also should i wait for the 2021? If not, and i went with the 450, what performance mods could i do to get more out of it? Thanks man, and keep up the solid work. Also what is the awesome metal intro?
Hi Corey, Thanks for the compliments & I'm glad you dig the metal music too. 🤘 It's royalty free stuff I buy & use on TH-cam (since we can't use "regular" music we like) His channel is Jacob Lizotte *_th-cam.com/users/Thrasher726_* Honestly, I think you'll like either bike. I enjoy that the 2020 & newer 300 is a NEW model & come well equipped. VS the 450... Older body & such/ ergonomics. I'm about 200 pounds & the 300 moves me around well, and simple sprocket swaps can give even more low end if needed. Pick the one you like better in the looks department & enjoy. Also, *_I'm doing a lot of work just for the 300_* in terms of mods, and making them available on the site. I don't think that's happening anywhere else. I've already started & have some great ideas upcoming/ more TH-cams in the future as time allows too. Going to keep it up. www.mxrevival.com/copy-of-shop-tools I think the bike is so cool for it's target audience & I intend to make a string of aftermarket mods for everyone- "The 300 Crew" I call us... Thanks for watching! -Charles // mXrevival
@@coreysmith66 if you haven't been riding for a while a modern 450 is plenty of power you don't need any mods for more power. Have you not seen fuel injected 450s racing in person? 450s have plenty of power regardless of how big you are. The only way a 450 would be under powered was by someone so obese that they probably wouldn't even think about getting on a bike anyways. They might be a little slower depending on the weight but they have plenty of power regardless.
To SSR if you read these comments: @ 6:13 you show the option of an 18'' rear wheel, and it is natural, not blacked out, can I order my 300, with 18 rear, 21 front in natural finish like what is shown in this video as opposed to blacked out?
Brock Higgs Good question & no issues so far! Easy enough to remedy with a plastic kit from your favorite manufacturer. I do feel like they are ever-so-slightly-thinner... But no cracking or issues yet.
So now im trying to figure out if the ssr300 or 450, or the Gpx fse300 or the fse450. wont be buying till spring because of winter is here now in VT. But now im wondering how exactly they compare to each other. Cause now there two brand in the US. and each bikes is different from each other, other then the motors, and the fact GPX uses efi. and this is a good video for me, cause now i cant actually see how much power they even have. Cause ripping around on trails don't always due justice of power in a videos.
I am looking into a few play bikes for my boys and me, plus a couple for the grandsons. My question is, how does one of these rip in stock configuration, and will the 2021 models come with the carb upgrade? I am a bigger guy I am 5'9" and 245lbs. We ride smaller local tracks, and bust trails a lot so I am looking for the wide-ratio transmission but do not want to buy somebody else's beat-down 450x Honda. Will the suspension need to be upgraded for my weight or will it handle my big but on it? That was some sick footage by the way; it was definitely a good showcase for SSR's bikes. Thanks for sharing with us; keep it tight and upright.
Thanks Killa! Honestly, all the big bikes are held back by the carbs. I have tests going in the 250s, 300s, and 450s with various riders so we're workong on that with great success. The suspension will be soft for you stock & were working on that too in the future. If you're fast it will of course be worse! But for general riding you can at least go have some fun! When you pick up a bike, let me know & perhaps we can use your bike for the spring compatibility test we have planned! Thanks for watching! -Charles // mXrevival
With bikes upwards of 10k if the ssr brand continues their homework they are gonna be the go to for the weekender or person not spending a Fortune every brand had to make a start
That's the truth. And there are rumors of a full size two-stroke.... These are the bikes most people need anyways versus full scale motocross bikes. For most situations you know?
I really hope these guys make it big and we see another brand on the starting line in races in the future, it is 100% possible if they do it right! I mean look at honda/yamaha in the late 60s to early 70s, they copied british bikes and completely took over the market! SSR could also make it big! They just better not sell out to Ktm, cus then that would be another rebranded orange bike! Look forward to seeing them progress! Keep up the awesome vids dude, really loving watching them as a new subscriber! Got this huge back log of vids to watch and keep me sane in these crazy times!
I just got my 2021 300 and in general I'm pleased. However, occasionally I get the bog off idle basically, it's almost like I get a turbo-spool type delay when I come off throttle; it's not there all the time but sure is annoying when it hits, like the throttle doesn't like you sneaking up on it. Any ideas what kind of adjustment I can try to get rid of the bog? It's the same pumper carb the guy was holding so I know it can/should run right. Appreciate any suggestions from TH-cam mechanics.
Hi Mike, I'm in the process of building and testing a special Lectron to replace the FCR type in your 2021 right now 🤘 Also, I was sent the 2021 FCR carburetor and related accessories from SSR as well- so as soon as I get some free time I'm going to install it in my 300, test it and get some good settings for you guys. Going through a hectic move at the moment but it's coming. For now, if you're interested in learning more about your FCR type carburetor it's all about learning how the circuits jive with one another. There are several fuel circuits within an FCR that all need to work harmoniously with one another through the RPM range, to deliver a great running machine Your symptom is typical of the leak jet and accelerator pump portion of the carburetor. If you do a little bit of googling you will see what these look like and how they work. Basically the accelerator pump is actuated by a metal dowel rod when you roll your throttle back. the rod pushes the accelerator pump diaphragm, which squirts fuel through a circuit in the carburetor leading directly to a very small port or jet. If you were to remove your carburetor and look into its bore, you would see this little tiny nub sticking up, and it has a small hole pointed at the engines intake... Fuel coming through that circuit sprays out of that little guy, directly into the engine. This all happens right off the crack of the throttle. The leak jet stands between the accelerator pump and this little sprayer (for lack of a better word). Depending on how large or small the leak jet is, you will get more or less fuel sprayed into the engine right off the crack of the throttle. this entire circuit exists basically because four-stroke engines do not produce enough vacuum at idle to suck the fuel they need up and into the engine to keep it running. A two-stroke is able to do this for example. Your symptom is an extremely common, and now extinct issue due to fuel injection on most bikes. You can probably see why we are building a Lectron? 😉 Jetting is actually really fun if you are patient enough. If that's you, start digging into those things specifically and playing with the leak jet. You'll come to understand how the accelerator pump and leak jet all work together. There are multiple jetting circuits in that carburetor, after the one we are discussing here. Lastly, you can have a look inside the throttle Cam and linkage "door" on the right side of your carburetor. There's an old school mod called "the o-ring mod" that basically takes the slack out between your throttle hand rolling the throttle cam behind that door, and where it starts to push that dowel rod I mentioned earlier. If you see a little bit of slack between the point where this Cam actuates that rod, you can wire tie them together. That's the actual mod. It takes away some of that disconnect between your throttle hand, and the bike actually revving up like you would expect it to. Have fun, and you can reach me here in the future just in case I miss your comment on TH-cam: www.mxrevival.com/contact -Charles // mXrevival
@@mxrevival I seriously appreciate the thought and detail that went into this comment. I'm hoping I can get the current carb dialed in, but if I can't - or for any other upgrades that you guys offer I'm definitely a future customer.
@@mrmicromanager you're very welcome, and I believe you will. Just takes patience as mentioned! The reward is in the process, so be sure to make only one change at a time. When you do this, you'll know exactly what the change affected and whether or not it was desirable. This is the only way to jet. So have fun, be patient, learn your machine and get a really great feel for the things you're doing. No better way to bond with your bike. FCR's can be made excellent. And the 33 mm they are using in 2021, is it copy of the 33 mm you see me riding in this video. It has a few additional mods, but it is night and day better than the stock 2020. Don't forget, you can hit me anytime with that contact link I left in the last comment 👌
@@mxrevival Just a follow up for anyone down the road who is interested. I took the carb off my 2021 SR300S and they had done the 'gasket' trick but with safety wire. I removed the safety wire and put a gasket on. Need to do some more riding/testing, but based upon startup and run in the garage I would say I got it a bit better. The problem with the safety wire fix from the factory is that it doesn't really account for the actual idle that you have. I got it to idle good, adjusted the screw, did the gasket fix and then it seemed to be better. I'm still interested in seeing what the lectron situation looks like for the bike though.
@@mrmicromanager that's awesome! Good on you for trying to help others too. Love that. Man we are right around the corner from having the proper Lectron for the 21+ SR300. I've got all the dimensions in and working hard to make it real. Just sent out another SR250 unit (filming soon) and the first two SR450 carbs as well... Feedback coming
You're totally right. They are a little under sprung for my 200lbs and valved for off road 😂 Total trail bike setups! Super fun day & thanks for taking time out of your day to watch. -Charles // mXrevival
3:475:09 'this is in addition to the Lectron carb, so what SSR is showing you is still not as good as the Lectron? By how much? Or are you saying the you'd need the Lectron if you have the '20 but the lectron is not better than what comes on the '21. In other words, the '21 will have just as much power 'stock' as the '20 with the Lectron carb?
Honestly I like them both. Did a recent video with the 21 FCR (what was installed in SSR bikes in this video) carb in my 20. I really like that a lot. The 20 stock carburetor is fine for the ultra beginner in my opinion. Lectron is excellent for anyone who does not want to jet, especially an FCR carburetor. They both get the job done, but Lectron will probably be the ultimate way to go for most people on this particular bike.
@@mxrevival Ok, thanks, I'm looking for enough low end torque to bring that front wheel up at will, the '20 stock obviously won't do that, but I'm gathering that the '21 will, so that's what I'll set my sights on; '21 or '22, and keep the Lectron mod in mind for a later upgrade, though hopefully the stock '21 and '22 will be close. I love the overall features of this bike, as I already mentioned, looks to be a hella value for sure. The soft suspension is a plus at my level and genre; Cross Enduro Light lol, I don't need full on MX suspension, and the linear power band is a huge plus. I should also mention that I think the way you did that video on the first run, where you did you're quick mods was excellent, it was like everything you could need to know tied altogether in one setting so we could connect the dots, see exactly what you did and how it worked out. I'm at a loss when it comes to jetting, the way you explained it was great, and showing that 1 size up, pilot and main, is a good base to work from.
Wow they are stepping up there game but I know they usta be one of those bikes that wouldn’t have major issues but so many small ones and they where heavy and hard to work on but Mayby they changed that
How long do you think until all the aftermarket companies start making parts for these bikes? Mitch/Pro Circuit made a couple one-off slip-on mufflers for it. With the Chinese trying to make better low-cost bikes and copy-cat parts... I would bet you, we will see Pro Circuit, FMF, Hinson, Rekluse, Suspension companies, and others making parts for them to be competitive with the Big 7 makes. Could we see 250s & 450s in the future from SSR that will be competitive for motocross?
Great question! I have made a lot of great relations & unique connections at quite a few of the places you’ve mentioned. The industry is small & I love getting into just about anything I can. Especially now that I see how much everyone is enjoying this topic. Trust me when I say that is encouraging for anyone who may get involved, and they will. I’m all over that. These won’t be competitive for upper level moto but could be for the average consumer with attention to tasteful mods and changes (which are all affordable almost immediately when the bike’s initial cost is factored in!) They aren’t aiming for high performance like Japanese or Austrian. They are different in that regard. That’s where we all come in & have fun tweaking, learning, teaching our kids how to wrench, etc. Pro Circuit already has (on these bikes we rode) T6 slip on mufflers that are specific to the machine. The 250, 300, 450 and some smaller models all have a Pro Circuit exhaust option. I’m working on that too, for all of us. Thanks for watching! -Charles // mXrevival
@@mxrevival , Yep a lot of the stuff from a Honda will work parts wise...They will never be new technology because they "copy" from older models and pattents.
Been looking into a SSR for a little bit. I know they are mainly woods bikes. This video answered a lot of questions for me though! So I appreciate that. Would you happen to know the best route to go if I want stiffer springs and shock for one of these bikes though?
shonkekauoha I can make it happen :) www.mxrevival.com/product-page/lectron-carburetors-2020-ssr-motorcycles-sr300 Use the contact link on the site if you have ANY questions at all. They go straight to my email. Thanks, dude! -Charles // mXrevival
I'm very impressed by those bikes, and also of how the people are so hostile when they know that a bike is made in china....while they watched this video on a cellphone probably made there lol Great video Charlie, you're putting so much effort in these that they look like a magazine review, and I love it, much love and support from Mexico!!
Thanks young shredder! Yeah I get it period back in the day this stuff was actual junk. They've come a long way, they manufacture for most of the world. You are 100% right about the cell phones, and the computers. Flip the iPhone over and if I remember correctly, it says right there "made in China, designed in California" something like that. Thanks for the kind words buddy, every video gets a little bit better based off some mistake I made while filming on the last one 😂
heres a odd thing i have a 2019 ssr250 changed levers and well bike wont start or turn over with the new clutch lever on but will with old one? havent messed much with it but thats very odd.. cant find parts for these easy dealerships best bet
As you'd expect. Plenty good enough to have fun on, but not quite as powerful as mainstream staple bikes. I have nothing to complain about at 200 lb on the 300 with very tall six-speed gearing. They're the kind of bikes you enjoy for what they are and get a lot for your money
It is probably a CRF clone EXCEPT for where it meets the carb - which makes it it's own thing. Since the CRF of this generation from Honda would have mated to an EFI throttle body instead of a carb (different dimensions)
I love the sound of an fcr carb. I remember when I put an fcr 39 carb on my drz400sm along with a full fmf, cams and stroker crank man would that thing rip. Would get pulled over all the time because of how loud and couldn't see my plate.lol shouldn't have ever traded it it for a gixxer.
@@mxrevival Not for race bikes. obviously not for the street. Not even the KTMs and Hondas are anything close to street legal. But you can buy them to go racing.
Hi Mark, Yes it's sort of a Honda CRF450 (2016) clone in some ways & origonal in others. Stay tuned for some more mods- including body mods & we've jsut created the first actual SR300 Decal Kit! Excited about it! www.mxrevival.com/contact // www.mxrevival.com/copy-of-shop-tools
It is! 48mm fork, a little different inside. Twin chamber, pretty heavy. Shock, not sure inside yet. But I does lack an HSC. Has low speed Comp & Reb though. We'll be digging into this stuff for different setups in the pretty near future. Good question Jim!
@@mxrevival yeah but man i cant handle that chinese feeling when riding a bike , and that underpowered motor with the weight it has to carry around will get you into serious trouble and its not easy to keep under control , but however they seem to have found a way to make the chinese bikes a bit more manageable than before , i think ill wait 5 more years for the bike to be done untill then id just buy a pre owned yz125
I heard there were endurance MX races in Glen Helen, fancy have a run in your SR300? 6, 10, 24 Hour races! Perfect testing ground for the durability of the SSR!
@@mxrevival So that's a pumper carb they are putting in there huh, definitely not a Keihin PWK-type, what are those? And interesting that these are Chinese clone FCRs and not actual Keihin FCRs, and the bike as you say became really potent!
@@paolomendioro1187 that's right! I can't believe that they are copies, they are almost identical to the original Keihin carbs save for a few little details. Basically these pumper carburetors are found on four strokes because, regular carburetors like a PWK lacks an accelerator pump. Four strokes benefit greatly from the use of an accelerator pump, which supplies a fine mist of fuel at the very, very, very beginning of rolling a throttle back. The throttle linkage pushes a rod down into a diaphragm, which then forces fuel through a tiny jet called a leak jet. That jet circuit thrn plumbs into the center bore of the carburetors Venturi. The reason they benefit from these is because four strokes do not produce enough engine vacuum to draw the fuel in on their own as well as two strokes. They will obviously run without a pumper carb but gain immense throttle response from the use of them specifically off the very bottom of the power curve. So this may bring up the question, how do we use our Lectron on the SSR if it is not a pumper type carburetor... Basically the tolerances in our Lectron are much greater and tighter, allowing the bike to run more efficiently with a standard style carburetor ("two stroke style carb") and has a price point to match. And of course, no jetting ever. There is actually a four-stroke variant Lectron as well, but the price almost twice as much, so we opted for a unit that matches the price point of the bike itself. Either carburetor will work wonders in the bike. As do pumper swaps. The four stroke Lectron also does not have an accelerator pump, but rather a fuel bypass which allows more fuel off the bottom end in a similar way to a pumper, just without the jets, linkages, and diaphragms. Lots of good options for carburetor guys all the way from perfect jetting to jetless carburetors these days.
I've just bought a Chinese Kurz FS250 with a Zhongshen engine. It's got a Molkt carb in it, but no idea if it's good or bad as i've only recently started riding dirt bikes. Interesting to see what you do to improve your bike and if can do something similar.
@@mxrevival i've watched all of them, the new carb really made a difference. Would i be right in saying a 2 stroke style carb has an air screw and 4 stroke style has fuel screw?
I would nonstop worry about the headtube breaking off if i jumped something to flat like i do from time to time. I broke the frame on a 2000 kx250 back in the day i wonder if the frame is decent. And my guy, youve been riding since you were a little kid??? Are you afraid to go fast or are you not confident in the equipment?
Hey it could happen! We see it happen too Japanese bikes with some type of regularity... Can't imagine how gnarly that would be to have actually happen. Although it's not meant to be a high performance machine to begin with. I'm not here to change anyone's mind either. Had fun though! 😂 Dude- did you forget you're watching a video of a Chinese dirt bike, ridden by some random dude on TH-cam, on a track he's never actually been to? Or did you confuse this for one of Cole Seely's videos?
@@mxrevival shit man i kinda wish i would have reworded that comment i really wasn't trying to be an asshole at all. I honestly just meant to ask if the bike felt weird or handled bad or are you simply not a fan of pounding laps as hard as possible. I honestly meant no disrespect bro im not that guy that calls beginners posers. I was a beginner once, so was Cole Seely. Its genuine curiosity man. Ya the frame on my kx broke right at the junction from the headtube to the rails where the forward engine mount is. The engine was about to fall out of the frame and everything. The last and only bike i ever owned that wasn't blue.
Oh hell yes! Did you catch the part in the video where we are talking about how one of the bikes seems to Rev really, really well and run better? Turns out that bike was at 250, that got turned into a 300 the same way you will do yours. It still had the 250 ignition, which Jr said was the reason it ran so peppy. Stoked for you! I've already purchased a 250 ignition to try on my 300, why not haha 🤣
It's a big bike (256lb), but like most motorcycles, the "weighted feel" always dims when you are actually in motion. Not too much worse than the higher performance offerings in off-road trim. Great, mellow power with good looks, well equipped accessories & great price are the bikes biggest positive attributes. You're welcome💪
Thanks for posting this video! I just bought a 2020 SSR 300 and experience the same carb issues. Any idea when the kit will be available, where to buy it, and how much it costs? I’d love to see you ride that thing out at Brushy Mountain, NC. Super technical trails.
You're very welcome, I appreciate you taking the time to watch. I don't have any extra insight on the how much or when just yet on the "kit"- Only what I was able to catch in the video for us. You *_could_* snag a used FCR on eBay too, if waiting gets too long. I am not sure where the jet specs would end up but I'd love to try one (they may be sending me a setup & I'd for sure test if for us) *Another option you might enjoy:* I recently developed an all-new Lectron carb for this bike with my guys in house there. *Here's the all new SSR Motorsports mod page on our website* , and the new Lectron/ pricing/ etc. Takes us about 10 days to build one from scratch just for you: www.mxrevival.com/product-page/lectron-carburetors-2020-ssr-motorcycles-sr300 *And here's the install video:* th-cam.com/video/PFKjn6fyG9E/w-d-xo.html Our shop SR300 shreds now and I am getting some incredible emails form our SSR customers about it. Makes my day, straight up! One of our customers is actually IN Colorado too 🤘 Any questions just holler! -Charles // mXrevival
Hey Charles, Ill be in the market soon and am entertaining the SSR SR300S. Id like to get the motor modle number, I believe its a zongshen just not sure what the modle number is, any way you could send me that info?
Congrats! Look at the new KOVE 250 as well. If I were back in the market for a Chinese bike, that is where I would go. It is pretty sick! I guess they have a 450 dropping in the future as well. As far as the Zongshen engine goes, 250 is called the NC250 and the 300 is…. You guessed it…. the NC300. They differ in literally no way other than the cylinder bore size. There is an NC450 as well, but it is a completely different layout from the other two. Hope that helps!
Pretty sure I can go faster on a stock 110 and not lock up the back tire on every down hill, jump something...
This dude is so fast!
Derek is a monster! Best mx rider ever!
Girls come to the track hoping Derek Eustit will glance their way, but he only has eyes for his 110 moped.
@@JustinPR612 Out here on Front Street!! 😂😂😂
Great video as always. Hey I was wondering if you're going to have any Hoodies available at your store soon? Also I know you read all these so I wanted to throw something out there, its a long shot but maybe you'll like the idea. I was thinking your logo with the large M, even larger X (like how you already have it) but then the REVIVAL inside one leg of the X. So basically just taking the revival part and fitting it inside the X in a different color. Then the MX could be bigger and centered on the front of the hat. For all I know you already played around with the logo like that and it didn't look good, but it sure looks good in my head. I would totally rock a hoodie or hat or bike graphics like that. Please don't think I'm saying I don't like it the way it is, I guess I just like symbols more than words on apparel. I'm probably just weird but I bet there's more weirdos like me out there. Maybe you could do a limited run variant of that logo and see if it sells, I'll be your first buyer, but you gotta sign it cuz I know your channel is gonna blow up! Thanks for reading. Love the channel!
You and other riding enthusiasts are the whole reason that SSR has survived over the years. I was the operations manager there at SSR from '06-'07, back before they had standard sized bikes in their lineup. William and his crew (like JR now) have always had an open ear to suggestions for improvements from all levels - your average customer to industry specialists. However it's guys like you that are the big bonus: you give your honest opinion to both the company and the would be buyers, and you provide solid solutions for shortcomings you have found. I wish you were around when I was there! Keep it up, and you've gained another sub here for sure. Peace...
Mtn Duck Thank you, they were awesome & extremely accommodating!
That’s killer, where are you working now??
We are having fun & I think modern day media outlets & styles will benefit by this type of thing now more than ever. Super cool getting to work with some of the people currently involved. I expect it to blossom too.
I appreciate the killer comment!
-Charles // mXrevival
@@mxrevival When I parted ways with SSR on a good note, it was a big shift - I joined the US Border Patrol. Since then, I've been lucky to be on some amazing teams: the Horse Patrol Unit, the ATV Unit, and we're trying to get the MX Unit up and going in my area (SoCal). It's been quite a ride! I still keep in touch with SSR though. Good times are never forgotten, but always looking forward to the next.
@@mtnduck3674 that's awesome! I'm glad you've gotten to keep doing new things that you love. We're learning or dying right?
Thanks for sharing brotha!
Fn. Joke !
@@mtnduck3674 i always wondered why theres no perimeter roads on the border, lol.
Glad your showing ssr bikes there is hardly any TH-cam coverage of them
justin fisher For The SSR / 300 Crew!
Thanks Justin!
-Charles // mXrevival
A lot of pit bike stuff though not much on the big bikes
because they won’t last 15 hours
I mainly would worry about parts availability.
@@jeremykamel9655 Plenty of parts. Go a few more laps around the track you will find them.
The moment we've all been waiting for
Woot! Woot!!! 🤜🤛
Hope you enjoyed!
-Charles // mXrevival
The moment of the truth
I'm so happy to see ssr making big moves. I hate when ppl talk down on Chinese bikes when their as capable. Hopefully In the next year's ssr will make a name for itself!
The main complaint with bikes like the SSR300 is they're a blatant rip off of Hondas with 0 repercussions, I understand thats how they keep the cost down because they don't have to put in a bunch of time designing the bike but it still rubs people the wrong way
The problem I’ve had with Chinese bikes is the quality of the parts used! They look great from new and the engines tend to be solid, but the nuts and bolts are cheap and they fall apart after any amount of wet.
@@Mike-or7xv plus, you can’t always easily find parts
@@dealspeed6756 that's the same anywhere though! car company copying off other manufacturer, shoe brand, etc... it's no difference! people just hate on chinese brand because they market it for a cheap price.
@@dealspeed6756 people are just scared of getting a better deal on a bike i guess
Dude, you deserve a sponsorship from SSR. You have single handedly put them on the map. They are on my shopping list because of your reporting. It’s new SSR vs. used “many.” 😝
I really appreciate that Mark! If we can get them to let me in as a dealer of parts, without being a full model line dealer (which I wouldn't mind someday) then I'll be able to get you guys sorted better than the local dealers it seems.
If any of you SSR owners want some performance mods my man Joe Henner of Henner Motorsports in Syracuse ,NY does porting for these and he also has a advanced timing key that helps this bike rev out better... Charles you should get one of the timing keys...it kind of works like an ECU mod....Thanks for all your videos and work with this brand ..There are like no videos out in world about them..a true diamond in the rough...and value .
NIce!
Is it a stepped woodruff key type of thing? Advances the timing a bit?
You are very welcome. Thanks equally for your interest. I'm glad you are enjoying it, sincerely.
🙏🙏🙏
Someone mentioned him on the FB group 'China Bikes North America'; I believe a few people mentioned him on Chinariders.net, too.
@@mxrevival , Charles ..yes it is an offset woodruff key ( for our Orion RXB 250 ) it is a 4 degree timing advance that works with a 2 degree advance from a Big Gun Rev Box ....The Zongshen motors are bullet proof, but come in a serious state of De-tune...on purpose I would guess.
Anyway check into it Joe Henner @ Henner Motorsports on Facebook.....
P.S. not trying to over run your comments section/ or promote myself...He is just the BEST guy I have found for knowledge on these Chinese Bikes and Engines/Suspension.
@@culcune , Yep you can find him on Facebook....Henner Motorsports
I love the refreshing no bullshit attitude of ssr guy, like fn nails on a chalk board. Cool as shit they let you demonstrate. Hate 4 strokes, but can't hate on underdogs knowing the people that made them have been supplying aftermarket companies for decades. Kickstands, no suspension mods, spark arrestors, and they did ok in trail form on motocross track. Suzuki is wrapping it up and ssr is stepping in, well, give it 5 more years to iron out some details.
GasGas is 10000 dollar ktm/husky leftover parts. Bad timing for any internal combustion engine manufacturing companies if the US is trying to ban any new gas engine production in 2035.
I don't know why the government just trying to make people stop using gas when the Chinese in India are responsible for 80% of carbon emissions
@@cawbaird5711 going off on tangent here, sorry, but it might be about control, it iritates the shit out of our greedy asshole government (04ish push for expensive4stroke tax revenue 4 example) they don't have absolute control on the shut off valve from foreign fuel. All they can do is tax the living shit out of it. Our government does not truly give 2 shits about any of the environmental stuff, it just justifies their existence as another government entity. They will however have complete control on every nuke plant, and epa won't have to worry about job security, because electric generation and storage pollution blows soy bean/ fossil fuels right out of cooling rod water.
Natural wind, solar, water, power generation will not supply demand, and lithium is a limited train wreck to mine/ recycle. Lead acid has already created large numbers of superfund sites. Can you imagine any resource they won't take from you and tax/control. They probably got some one thinking of how they can limit sunshine, so they can sell and tax it to you at same time.
All the motor manufacturers and oil companies of the world need to start pushing back, because nuclear power generation waste, cooling water for example, takes thousands of years to be able to live near.
Daniel Arney You rock dude. Thank you. Enjoying it for what it is and a lot of guys seem to glide right over that, letting egos guide their responses as if it’s “buy this & not that” style of content. You get it, I appreciate it. And it’s fun as f**k! Can’t lose!
Thank you for watching & the cool-as-hell response with great points.
-Charles // mXevival
You can tell you know zero about KTM Husqvarna and gas gas company you're just spouting off bullshit that you don't know anything about. But I can almost guarantee you one thing one 20 minute Moto on these bikes banging it off the rev limiter will most certainly end up with engine parts outside of the case.
@@mikelyons469 ktms used to implode, break frames, shocks, triple clamps. I ain't shit, I'll be that. See allot of newer 9g bikes blowing up also. It's a trail bike with potential, and they are going to have lower rpm limits for the average Joe consumer that ain't out to conquer the world, but wants nothing but a good time. Mxa goes to China issue had some nice looking bikes with same manufacturer engine. Don't forget, Japanese bikes, and ktms both played their parts as the underdogs, that's why they hate Chinese bikes, they know it's coming, all their hard work supplying most of the aftermarket with affordable parts because of slave labor of love is going to pay off soon.
This was the exact video I've been looking for! Great topic. Great content. Thank you ssr for letting him do this!
Glad I could be that guy for you! Thanks for watching 💪 I've been adding more and more mods to the website all the time for this cool little value bike: www.mxrevival.com/copy-of-shop-tools
Yes, I could not click on this fast enough...so cool !! and again Charles your video Quality is so Awesome !!
Greatly appreciate that!
I really like the way you split up your videos makes them easy to navigate
Hey, I appreciate you guys watching & value your time - so I gotta do it!
Thank you 🙏
-Charles // mXrevival
19:13 hear the Ping smell the smoke. You've just been passed by a two stroke.
Yessirr yz125 or 250 i think
@@Bumpyfn250 80
@@TM-lw8wn nah
Ain’t nothing like a 2 stroke though. Honda needs to stop playing and release 2022 cr250
I live in China. I just bought a BSE 250F. Its the same bike as as in this video. As mentioned in the video, most, if not all local (Chinese) bike motors are similar. Here they have Nibi as a carb mod. Works wonders. Locally different ECUs are available with 4 maps... The thing revs to the moon in the most aggressive map. Chinese manufacturers have come a long way. Well done guys on the video. Love the content
Thank you! I especially love that you have some genuine insight, and value to provide people in the comments. See enough of the opposite! The nibi is a thing here too. Guys seem to really like it in the Facebook forums. Your BSE 250f has the same body style as this 300? That's pretty cool. We don't have that one here so far as I know. At least not with the 250cc cylinder on it.
Got my 300 last August or September when its first became available here. Sat on it and could tell right away it was the bike for me. Was a bit of strugle at first. Bike wanst even rideable due to carb issues. But the company worked on it to made sure i was a happy customer. Still isnt perfect. But still a good ride. Actually talked my best freind into getting one. Super looking forward to the updated carb and parts being released. And after seeing the updated 21 model, my brother may be buying him one to. We all live in West Virginia and trail ride in the mountains. Appreciate all the info you have made avalable for it.
Whats up my Mountaineer brother. I live in Beckley and just bought one in September also. This is the first bike i have ever owned so its hard for me to compare, but i love it. Its a lot of bike to learn on but it is awesome 🤘🏼
Watch his other video of his initial ride of the bike. He said the carbs are jetted super lean from the factory. He has another video where he replaced the carb with a Lectron and it helped alot. All of his videos are awesome, his channel is gonna blow up.
You are very welcome Paul.
Pleasure to have you here & I'm stoked that you "felt it" when you bought yours. I think they are really cozy bikes. I'm looking forward to the new carb too but have also developed a new carburetor with Lectron, just for this bike. www.mxrevival.com/product-page/lectron-carburetors-2020-ssr-motorcycles-sr300
It's another great option for all of us and of course, totally jet-less. I think it will have a leg up on the FCR ultimately BUT I can't wait to test the FCR in a stock platform (these bikes were modded more than my SSR back at the shop) I am thinking that after dialing it in, it will be sweet & jetting can be fun.
Please keep us all updated with your bike, and friend's bikes too!
-Charles // mXrevival
Very kind of you! Thanks Adam!
Congratulations on your new whip!
That bike seems to have a beautiful frame and some nice CNC parts... the Chinese are coming, the Chinese are coming. People don't realize they already buy most of their products, clothing, etc. are made in China. Shop at Walmart lately? China is a HUGE country, and they will continue to figure out quality and overrun Japan and the Euro bikes... speaking of which, some Honda's are made in other countries, besides Japan... even Honda makes some of their products in China. Also, have any of you ever visited China? I spent a month there and the people are SUPER nice. Yes, just like most western people, I have issue with their government, but the people are very much like you and me. Thanks for the video and I believe these new bikes coming out will be just fine for the none pro, weekend warrior.
Finally... someone with a broader, real-world view, and open mind. That's refreshing. No programming and spitting some truth.
I agree, and some is even undeniable fact.
Thanks for watching, Jed 👍
-Charles // mXrevival
This is so cool! You're a good rider!
I only know about Glenn Helen from reading Dirt Bike mag back when Tom 'Wolfman' Webb was the editor. Seeing the track on an actual ride is fantastic! I can tell you're only riding at about 75%, your faster than your buddy aren't you 😁👍!
The SSR300 throws a decent roost!
Hey thanks!
I'm somewhere in the middle of "fast" & "slow" 😂
This is only my second time going to Glen helen, and the trip before this one, I had only seen it in magazines and on TH-cam myself. It was quite the treat.
Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it.
The SSR's are a blast 👊
-Charles // mXrevival
Comes back to the trailer. Man this thing rips. Old man is like yeah, get off.
You'd think that the older gentleman and this business man that is trying to promote the brand and bring it to many people on TH-cam to get recognized would be a little more forth coming with the bikes and throw pettiness to the side for the sake of the business, you would think.
@@bodeine454 but you have to realise the bikes they had there were still in development so his hesitation was justified. Last think you'd want is a brand that's still in its infancy is to have one of their products fail or have issues on a platform as huge as TH-cam. In reality the SSR guys were very generous.
@@flangmasterj He was talking about how it was a pet peeve of his, how he was proud that he finished a race or races without getting dinged by rocks. It sounded to me like he was just being anal.
I have a FCR41 on my bike,huge power wide open and no issue while starting hot or cold,I did some mods on the cylinder intake manifold !These bikes are awesome!
Keep her pinned, buddy!
what an awesome vid , great job dodging that rock, gud stuff dude, keep up the great content.
Haha! that was literally J.R.’sonly request... no rocks! I got lucky.
Thank you very much.
-Charles // mXreival
Found your channel today and I already LOVE IT!! DONT STOP!!!
Hell yeah! I won't!
Thank you 🙏
-Charles // mXrevival
Great JOb MXR for showcasing a new player. We appreciate ya keeping this interesting. My local dealerships have stayed alive selling these during the shortage of all Manuf this year. It looks like they got smart about stocking parts in US . Thx for being the guy
Thank you Joseph,
I appreciate that! I'll keep it going.
-Charles // mXrevival
brother, I'm almost buying a CRF250F, there are a lot of parts and accessories out there, but this SSR looks cool and for the same price, but I wonder if the parts and accessories will be found? this is liquid cooled and the aluminum chassis looks pretty cool but i'm in doubt now.
Have no fear. If you like it, buy it. There are parts available for it everywhere. Not to mention new mods we're doing so you can spend some time modifying your new bike too 🤘 If you like the Honda, that's great too!
Just got a 2021 ssr 125r big wheel for my son and it rips. I'm ready for the big boy!! Hope to see more ssr videos out there
Huge congrats to both of you! Oh yes, more to come in the future. Thanks for watching!
I’m an SSR fan, but for an employee of the company straight up saying the carb is a copy of a CRF is just terrible. They have shame.
Transparency 👌
If it’s a copy it’s ok atleast we know it’s a good carb
@@alltorque415 nope....COPY of a good carb, not necessarily a good copy either.
The employee did not seem knowledgeable at all
@@myass5964 he's actually an extremely sharp dude & loaded with knowledge. Some people are just a little shy on camera 😉
Excellent Charles! Bad ass intro too! 💪
LSForce10 Thank you brother!
I was thinking the same thing, what is the bands name ?
Killed it again Charles!! I’d sub again if I could, and I might just have to swoop another 300s to keep set up for the track. The look on JR’s face when you guys had him cornered in the trailer was epic🤣
Keep kill’n it dude, can’t wait for what’s next🤘
Damn, thank you J! 🙏
I felt SO bad when I saw that! It all worked out.
Thanks for the support & kind words my man.
Just thoughts, if the company wanted to make in-roads with the Motocross buyers, they would make a 125/250 two stroke. Just a thought.
I have heard rumors!
Dope that you got on the prototype for all the bikes that came after. I just got an 2001 cr250r. First 2 stroke I have ever had. I love 4 strokes and this is the first time I have seen the ssr 300! Looks like all the kinks are being worked out. When you started from talking and gave it some juice girl grabbed and you two where off. I know you where riding at about 60 percent not be your bike and all. Keep it up bub the info in this video is very useful and helps other unlock the potential of the ssr. Good work.
Pretty cool opportunity huh!
Thanks a ton. Yes, bikes are under sprung & first time at Glen Helen. Better to behave so the long drive home wasn't a broken one- you are right!
They ran great, it was awesome to try the pumper carbs & I'll keep this up.
Thanks for watching!
-Charles // mXrevival
Love your channel man! Awesome editing and absolutely awesome content! Keep er pinned brother 🤘
Big thanks! Trying to get a little better at it with every video. Thanks for watching, Mike 🙏
I'm impressed with the filming and editing. Usually this type of content is shakey POV and too drawn out and boring. Somehow Charles got me to watch like 2 hour of content on this bike. Bravo 👏
@@Nickporter17 Thanks a TON Nick!
I get bored VERY easily & am insanely busy at all times. I try to treat everyone's time as if it were as limited as mine.
I will literally even chop out countless single seconds of my breathing within sentences to keep s*it sped up!
I even dislike that the first vid on this bike was over an hour, but it had to be.
Also learn more about cameras every day, I have become as interested in them, and the art of using them almost as much as I enjoy bikes.
I appreciate your kind words & I'll keep 'em speedy🙌
-Charles // mXrevival
@@mxrevival that's cool to hear! You've done well with the audio too. With time I'm sure you'll have a pretty tight a/v process that can rival larger productions. Then boom, you're your own media company! I've gotten way into photography for my solopreneur product shots. Leading to buying a nice fluid head and 500mm lens to film surfers from the beach. Would be rad to get some footage of guys like you on the track for one of your edits.
@@Nickporter17 thank you, definitely difficult with the shotgun mic on the handheld and the internal microphone on the GoPro... Definitely some inconsistencies there. A lot of raising and lowering the volume throughout the editor, as well as stupid things like waiting 10 seconds to talk after firing up the gopro. It does this strange muffling effect when it's initializing or something.
That's awesome man, good for you chasing your passion. Cameras are so sick!
No one stopping us from linking up and doing some cool s***, that's for sure. Where are you located?
Astonished seeing BSE stamped in the engine, the original brand is Bosuer. I found that in Perú is widely used, I live in Bolivia and I am almost sure that here are branded as Montero HOPEFULLY i'll get mine in december..
YES!
Keep us posted!
Hwy man great video waiting on the fmf and some bars for the 300 keep up the great work
Anthony b carroll Appreciate that! More mods to come!
So after having put a Lectron on your bike and then having riding the upgraded 2021 model which one runs better? I have a Lectron on my KDX and am days away from picking up my 2021 SR300. Thanks for the input.
I'd like to say I have a definitive answer but I don't just yet!
Those bikes had far more than just pumper carbs on them so not really a true comparison.
But I'll be able to tests both the Lectron & 2021 stock pumper side by side very soon.
-Charles // mXrevival
I appreciate the feedback on the SSR300. I do have a question for you. If you were upgrading from an uncorked TTR230 would you consider this 300 or something bigger for single track and open trails?
My pleasure!
I vote SR300- for many reasons: It's full size, has a much better aftermarket parts availability for customization, cheaper OEM parts if needed & I'm constantly creating my own mods for all of us to enjoy! This bike is pure fun & affordable to "trick out". www.mxrevival.com/ssr-motorsports-sr300-modifications
The 230 is an incredibly reliable, easy to ride, great resale machine. Uncorked though, not a ton to be found in it. It's also cramped. My wife is 5'9" and was very cramped in the cockpit and therefore had to sit further back past the bike's balance point>
The real question is: What do YOU like 😎
-Charles // mXrevival
We're you pinned on that hill after the switch? I wonder how fast they go I want a fun bike maybe I'll get a mini sr189 offside of racing and riding. Or is the crf150r the best mini bike?
Great video little disappointed it wasn't your personal bike, but excited for the 2021s, I need one in my stable
I'll get the personal whip out there someday soon! Still in the trail-test phase 💪
Thanks dude!
Finally the video I've been waiting for ........ I'm really considering getting a SSR, you answered a lot of questions I had. Bikes looked like they handled the track really well. Are the brakes an issue with 2021 SR300 bikes ???
Always here to help you get the answers you need.
I think you'd really love this bike. Fun, affordable, plush, plenty of room for really fun mods.
I can tell you that the brakes on my personal 2020 are extremely strong, like really really good.
I'm wondering if there was something funky going on with one of the test bikes we rode. One of them had a gigantic 270 mm oversized rotor, the one with the headlight. It stopped on a dime! The one Justin was riding first, the more peppy one, he didn't seem to like the brakes but when I got on the bike I also didn't notice. I forgot to pay attention.
I am a heavy front-breaker but I also drag my rear brakes over chop so maybe I was mitigating the situation.
At any rate, zero complaints from me on the brakes.
Hope that helps!
@@mxrevival yes Thank you! I am subscribing to keep updated.
Ive bin waiting for another video !!!!!!
I'll keep them coming, buddy 🙏
@@mxrevival thanks bro ill make sure to give them all a like
@@jesuscortez4879 I'm grateful!
I've never seen anyone but myself and you 2 guys in the video jumping big on the sr300s . I've got the 2020 model to this day bought new, I'm still running the stock carb
Dude I think I found my future trail bike. I am super stoked about what you get for the price. Will the new 2021 models cost more?
They are so cool! I do not believe the MSRP will change for 2021. The only thing that might affect price is the fact that inventory is so low for absolutely everyone, that dealers are getting away with charging more for just about everything.
I just took delivery of mine in Florida, it took about a month from when I ordered it. Was 4399 plus the dealer/tax/etc. Had one shakeout ride so far and it is awesome.
one more ssr video and im sold.. so close to subscribing
😎😎😎😎
Hello great video. I been looking at the GPX Moto also. These bikes have came a long way. Are all the new SSR going to have these modes. Like the ported heads? An will they come out this year?
Thanks!
The GPX oaks pretty cool too. Utah company I believe. Similar deal to SSR!
No porting standard, but that’ll be fun for the owners to do!
The 2021 will have the new pumper-carb, new cable, new air boot, and should be a huge improvement over the 2020 in terms of mor immediate usability.
Awesome Vid! Thanks Charles!
RADSpeed inc Thank you too!
I think you should do a walk around sum up video of the SSR bike. All the things you have done to it, and what it has all cost you.
Not a bad idea. It'd be like taking all the videos and combining them into one
Really awesome to see an SSR being pushed hard
I'm sure it'll take much more punishment than my old ass can dish out!
Do you know if SSR has the copyright approval for copying CRF parts?? I know there's been litigation issues from Chinese copying other bike parts in the past.
I don't believe so.
Sometimes, patents run out and a whole gang of companies will copy something. Kind of like the front brake line routing on all of the modern motocross bikes these days.
At one point that was exclusive to Honda now everyone is allowed to run it.
Another good example is the pit bike explosion maybe 10 or 15 years ago.
Not sure if you're a member all of those Honda clones, but it was a similar situation I believe with Honda's original frame for the 50, and patents. I could be wrong but that's what I remember.
I don't know exactly how patents work either, but I would imagine that if something is just different enough, it wouldn't be a problem. For example, the engine in the SSR is so much unlike the CRF in the way that it mounts into the frame, the entire lower cradle is different.
Hopefully that's helpful!
Thanks for watching, John
-Charles // mXrevival
@@mxrevival Cool. The Honda clones were copyrighted through a company called Jailing from memory. I've had industry connections who brought a bunch of Asia Wing bikes to Canada, similar to the SSR. Unfortunately that company does not have permission to produce the CRF almost clones, and opens dealers up to a host of litigation issues. Cool bikes for sure man.
Awesome! Now I know why they went up $100 in price. You can tell they are watching what we do to our 300s lol...
🤣 any more rides logged with your new Lectron??
@@mxrevival Just one so far. Hoping again this week. It's soooo nice now! Thank you again!
@@jimstout music to my ears, really. The hanks is all owed to you. Thank you for supporting mXrevival! Means the world.
-Charles // mXrevival
They are using regular folks to do R and D on thier bikes while Kawasaki and Yamaha have those shmucks McGrath and Villopoto testing their bikes.
Nice. Been waiting on this.
Hell yeah 🤘 Hope you enjoy!!
Glen Helen? 😂.. respect bro! You gon all in ✊
Jimmy Gritz Ballz Deep!
Hey man loving the channel! Ive been off a bike for some time and want back into it. These ssr bikes look great. Im having trouble on deciding on my size though between the 300, and 450. Im 6'5, and around 238. Im not near any so its not like i can sit on one to see. What would you recommend? Also should i wait for the 2021? If not, and i went with the 450, what performance mods could i do to get more out of it? Thanks man, and keep up the solid work. Also what is the awesome metal intro?
Hi Corey,
Thanks for the compliments & I'm glad you dig the metal music too. 🤘 It's royalty free stuff I buy & use on TH-cam (since we can't use "regular" music we like)
His channel is Jacob Lizotte *_th-cam.com/users/Thrasher726_*
Honestly, I think you'll like either bike. I enjoy that the 2020 & newer 300 is a NEW model & come well equipped. VS the 450... Older body & such/ ergonomics.
I'm about 200 pounds & the 300 moves me around well, and simple sprocket swaps can give even more low end if needed.
Pick the one you like better in the looks department & enjoy.
Also, *_I'm doing a lot of work just for the 300_* in terms of mods, and making them available on the site. I don't think that's happening anywhere else. I've already started & have some great ideas upcoming/ more TH-cams in the future as time allows too. Going to keep it up.
www.mxrevival.com/copy-of-shop-tools
I think the bike is so cool for it's target audience & I intend to make a string of aftermarket mods for everyone- "The 300 Crew" I call us...
Thanks for watching!
-Charles // mXrevival
Thanks man ill check it out!
@@coreysmith66 if you haven't been riding for a while a modern 450 is plenty of power you don't need any mods for more power. Have you not seen fuel injected 450s racing in person? 450s have plenty of power regardless of how big you are. The only way a 450 would be under powered was by someone so obese that they probably wouldn't even think about getting on a bike anyways. They might be a little slower depending on the weight but they have plenty of power regardless.
To SSR if you read these comments:
@ 6:13 you show the option of an 18'' rear wheel,
and it is natural, not blacked out, can I order my 300,
with 18 rear, 21 front in natural finish like what is shown
in this video as opposed to blacked out?
where can I find these for sale in the US
www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/dealer_locator.php
Reynolds Motorsports
It's cool they are addressing all the problems you mentioned. How do the plastics hold up? Many if the chinese bikes have very brittle plastic.
Brock Higgs Good question & no issues so far! Easy enough to remedy with a plastic kit from your favorite manufacturer.
I do feel like they are ever-so-slightly-thinner... But no cracking or issues yet.
Love the channel bro. Keep em comin.
Thanks dude!
So now im trying to figure out if the ssr300 or 450, or the Gpx fse300 or the fse450. wont be buying till spring because of winter is here now in VT. But now im wondering how exactly they compare to each other. Cause now there two brand in the US. and each bikes is different from each other, other then the motors, and the fact GPX uses efi. and this is a good video for me, cause now i cant actually see how much power they even have. Cause ripping around on trails don't always due justice of power in a videos.
I think you'll be happy with any of your choices 💪
Thanks for watching!
Ssr has upgraded there game
She's still going strong!
I am looking into a few play bikes for my boys and me, plus a couple for the grandsons. My question is, how does one of these rip in stock configuration, and will the 2021 models come with the carb upgrade? I am a bigger guy I am 5'9" and 245lbs. We ride smaller local tracks, and bust trails a lot so I am looking for the wide-ratio transmission but do not want to buy somebody else's beat-down 450x Honda. Will the suspension need to be upgraded for my weight or will it handle my big but on it? That was some sick footage by the way; it was definitely a good showcase for SSR's bikes. Thanks for sharing with us; keep it tight and upright.
Thanks Killa!
Honestly, all the big bikes are held back by the carbs. I have tests going in the 250s, 300s, and 450s with various riders so we're workong on that with great success.
The suspension will be soft for you stock & were working on that too in the future. If you're fast it will of course be worse! But for general riding you can at least go have some fun!
When you pick up a bike, let me know & perhaps we can use your bike for the spring compatibility test we have planned!
Thanks for watching!
-Charles // mXrevival
With bikes upwards of 10k if the ssr brand continues their homework they are gonna be the go to for the weekender or person not spending a Fortune every brand had to make a start
That's the truth. And there are rumors of a full size two-stroke.... These are the bikes most people need anyways versus full scale motocross bikes. For most situations you know?
I really hope these guys make it big and we see another brand on the starting line in races in the future, it is 100% possible if they do it right! I mean look at honda/yamaha in the late 60s to early 70s, they copied british bikes and completely took over the market! SSR could also make it big! They just better not sell out to Ktm, cus then that would be another rebranded orange bike! Look forward to seeing them progress! Keep up the awesome vids dude, really loving watching them as a new subscriber! Got this huge back log of vids to watch and keep me sane in these crazy times!
Thanks Toad!
I will, and thank you for watching 🙏
-Charles // mXrevival
I just got my 2021 300 and in general I'm pleased. However, occasionally I get the bog off idle basically, it's almost like I get a turbo-spool type delay when I come off throttle; it's not there all the time but sure is annoying when it hits, like the throttle doesn't like you sneaking up on it. Any ideas what kind of adjustment I can try to get rid of the bog? It's the same pumper carb the guy was holding so I know it can/should run right. Appreciate any suggestions from TH-cam mechanics.
Hi Mike, I'm in the process of building and testing a special Lectron to replace the FCR type in your 2021 right now 🤘
Also, I was sent the 2021 FCR carburetor and related accessories from SSR as well- so as soon as I get some free time I'm going to install it in my 300, test it and get some good settings for you guys.
Going through a hectic move at the moment but it's coming.
For now, if you're interested in learning more about your FCR type carburetor it's all about learning how the circuits jive with one another. There are several fuel circuits within an FCR that all need to work harmoniously with one another through the RPM range, to deliver a great running machine
Your symptom is typical of the leak jet and accelerator pump portion of the carburetor.
If you do a little bit of googling you will see what these look like and how they work.
Basically the accelerator pump is actuated by a metal dowel rod when you roll your throttle back. the rod pushes the accelerator pump diaphragm, which squirts fuel through a circuit in the carburetor leading directly to a very small port or jet.
If you were to remove your carburetor and look into its bore, you would see this little tiny nub sticking up, and it has a small hole pointed at the engines intake... Fuel coming through that circuit sprays out of that little guy, directly into the engine. This all happens right off the crack of the throttle.
The leak jet stands between the accelerator pump and this little sprayer (for lack of a better word). Depending on how large or small the leak jet is, you will get more or less fuel sprayed into the engine right off the crack of the throttle.
this entire circuit exists basically because four-stroke engines do not produce enough vacuum at idle to suck the fuel they need up and into the engine to keep it running. A two-stroke is able to do this for example.
Your symptom is an extremely common, and now extinct issue due to fuel injection on most bikes.
You can probably see why we are building a Lectron? 😉
Jetting is actually really fun if you are patient enough.
If that's you, start digging into those things specifically and playing with the leak jet.
You'll come to understand how the accelerator pump and leak jet all work together.
There are multiple jetting circuits in that carburetor, after the one we are discussing here.
Lastly, you can have a look inside the throttle Cam and linkage "door" on the right side of your carburetor.
There's an old school mod called "the o-ring mod" that basically takes the slack out between your throttle hand rolling the throttle cam behind that door, and where it starts to push that dowel rod I mentioned earlier.
If you see a little bit of slack between the point where this Cam actuates that rod, you can wire tie them together. That's the actual mod.
It takes away some of that disconnect between your throttle hand, and the bike actually revving up like you would expect it to.
Have fun, and you can reach me here in the future just in case I miss your comment on TH-cam: www.mxrevival.com/contact
-Charles // mXrevival
@@mxrevival I seriously appreciate the thought and detail that went into this comment. I'm hoping I can get the current carb dialed in, but if I can't - or for any other upgrades that you guys offer I'm definitely a future customer.
@@mrmicromanager you're very welcome, and I believe you will. Just takes patience as mentioned! The reward is in the process, so be sure to make only one change at a time. When you do this, you'll know exactly what the change affected and whether or not it was desirable. This is the only way to jet. So have fun, be patient, learn your machine and get a really great feel for the things you're doing. No better way to bond with your bike.
FCR's can be made excellent. And the 33 mm they are using in 2021, is it copy of the 33 mm you see me riding in this video.
It has a few additional mods, but it is night and day better than the stock 2020.
Don't forget, you can hit me anytime with that contact link I left in the last comment 👌
@@mxrevival Just a follow up for anyone down the road who is interested. I took the carb off my 2021 SR300S and they had done the 'gasket' trick but with safety wire. I removed the safety wire and put a gasket on. Need to do some more riding/testing, but based upon startup and run in the garage I would say I got it a bit better. The problem with the safety wire fix from the factory is that it doesn't really account for the actual idle that you have. I got it to idle good, adjusted the screw, did the gasket fix and then it seemed to be better. I'm still interested in seeing what the lectron situation looks like for the bike though.
@@mrmicromanager that's awesome! Good on you for trying to help others too. Love that. Man we are right around the corner from having the proper Lectron for the 21+ SR300.
I've got all the dimensions in and working hard to make it real.
Just sent out another SR250 unit (filming soon) and the first two SR450 carbs as well... Feedback coming
Id love to see a vid on the 450s
Never know 😈
Suspension looks really soft, but its pretty wild to see full size ssr bikes lol.
You're totally right. They are a little under sprung for my 200lbs and valved for off road 😂 Total trail bike setups! Super fun day & thanks for taking time out of your day to watch.
-Charles // mXrevival
3:47 5:09
'this is in addition to the Lectron carb, so what
SSR is showing you is still not as good as the Lectron?
By how much? Or are you saying the you'd need the Lectron
if you have the '20 but the lectron is not better than what comes
on the '21. In other words, the '21 will have just as much power
'stock' as the '20 with the Lectron carb?
Honestly I like them both. Did a recent video with the 21 FCR (what was installed in SSR bikes in this video) carb in my 20. I really like that a lot. The 20 stock carburetor is fine for the ultra beginner in my opinion. Lectron is excellent for anyone who does not want to jet, especially an FCR carburetor. They both get the job done, but Lectron will probably be the ultimate way to go for most people on this particular bike.
@@mxrevival Ok, thanks, I'm looking for enough low
end torque to bring that front wheel up at will, the
'20 stock obviously won't do that, but I'm gathering that
the '21 will, so that's what I'll set my sights on; '21 or
'22, and keep the Lectron mod in mind for a later upgrade,
though hopefully the stock '21 and '22 will be close.
I love the overall features of this bike, as I already mentioned,
looks to be a hella value for sure. The soft suspension is
a plus at my level and genre; Cross Enduro Light lol,
I don't need full on MX suspension, and the linear power
band is a huge plus.
I should also mention that I think the way you did that video
on the first run, where you did you're quick mods was
excellent, it was like everything you could need to know
tied altogether in one setting so we could connect the dots,
see exactly what you did and how it worked out.
I'm at a loss when it comes to jetting, the way you explained
it was great, and showing that 1 size up, pilot and main, is
a good base to work from.
Wow they are stepping up there game but I know they usta be one of those bikes that wouldn’t have major issues but so many small ones and they where heavy and hard to work on but Mayby they changed that
I'm dying to ride on a MX track. This was an awesome video.
Get out there! Thank you 🙏🙏
How long do you think until all the aftermarket companies start making parts for these bikes? Mitch/Pro Circuit made a couple one-off slip-on mufflers for it. With the Chinese trying to make better low-cost bikes and copy-cat parts... I would bet you, we will see Pro Circuit, FMF, Hinson, Rekluse, Suspension companies, and others making parts for them to be competitive with the Big 7 makes. Could we see 250s & 450s in the future from SSR that will be competitive for motocross?
Great question!
I have made a lot of great relations & unique connections at quite a few of the places you’ve mentioned. The industry is small & I love getting into just about anything I can. Especially now that I see how much everyone is enjoying this topic. Trust me when I say that is encouraging for anyone who may get involved, and they will. I’m all over that.
These won’t be competitive for upper level moto but could be for the average consumer with attention to tasteful mods and changes (which are all affordable almost immediately when the bike’s initial cost is factored in!) They aren’t aiming for high performance like Japanese or Austrian. They are different in that regard. That’s where we all come in & have fun tweaking, learning, teaching our kids how to wrench, etc.
Pro Circuit already has (on these bikes we rode) T6 slip on mufflers that are specific to the machine. The 250, 300, 450 and some smaller models all have a Pro Circuit exhaust option. I’m working on that too, for all of us.
Thanks for watching!
-Charles // mXrevival
@@mxrevival , Yep a lot of the stuff from a Honda will work parts wise...They will never be new technology because they "copy" from older models and pattents.
Been looking into a SSR for a little bit. I know they are mainly woods bikes. This video answered a lot of questions for me though! So I appreciate that. Would you happen to know the best route to go if I want stiffer springs and shock for one of these bikes though?
i dont care for mine in the woods its a heavy bike and believe me u can tell compared to others
SSR bikes are amazing. Just purchase 2021 150 and 300. Thanks for footage brah 👍🤙
👊👊👊 atta boy!
Bruhhhh knew the video was coming after the screenshot post.
Had to drop a little hype! Thanks for watching dude 👊
Everybody is a buyer till the 2 stroke blasts by😆😆😆
Haha!! Long live the two stroke!
Webcams for CRF 250?? Will they fit with a spring kit?
No, this engine has no similarities despite the frame/ body being Honda clone.. The engine is a Zongshen NC300 SOHC type
Do you know if the Lectron will fit the SR450? Only complaint about my SR450 is the stock carb and the weight... suuuper heavy.
shonkekauoha I can make it happen :) www.mxrevival.com/product-page/lectron-carburetors-2020-ssr-motorcycles-sr300
Use the contact link on the site if you have ANY questions at all. They go straight to my email.
Thanks, dude!
-Charles // mXrevival
Looks like a such a fun track to ride, California has all the greatest dirt bike riding areas.
SoCal is the place to be 🤘 We love going down there. Thanks for watching!
I'm very impressed by those bikes, and also of how the people are so hostile when they know that a bike is made in china....while they watched this video on a cellphone probably made there lol
Great video Charlie, you're putting so much effort in these that they look like a magazine review, and I love it, much love and support from Mexico!!
Thanks young shredder!
Yeah I get it period back in the day this stuff was actual junk. They've come a long way, they manufacture for most of the world.
You are 100% right about the cell phones, and the computers. Flip the iPhone over and if I remember correctly, it says right there "made in China, designed in California" something like that.
Thanks for the kind words buddy, every video gets a little bit better based off some mistake I made while filming on the last one 😂
@@mxrevival that's the best thing man, you're improving every time!!
heres a odd thing i have a 2019 ssr250 changed levers and well bike wont start or turn over with the new clutch lever on but will with old one? havent messed much with it but thats very odd.. cant find parts for these easy dealerships best bet
If it has a “clutch cancel” wire (on the old setup) just bridge or connect those wires when you run your new clutch setup. 👌
What’s the power difference between an ssr 300 and a 250 4 stroke from the big 5?
As you'd expect. Plenty good enough to have fun on, but not quite as powerful as mainstream staple bikes. I have nothing to complain about at 200 lb on the 300 with very tall six-speed gearing. They're the kind of bikes you enjoy for what they are and get a lot for your money
Is the air boot/box from a generic bike? Like a 250x, 250r or 230???
It is probably a CRF clone EXCEPT for where it meets the carb - which makes it it's own thing. Since the CRF of this generation from Honda would have mated to an EFI throttle body instead of a carb (different dimensions)
Your channel are AMAZING.....dude
Oh hell yeah, thank you so much buddy 🙏
I love the sound of an fcr carb. I remember when I put an fcr 39 carb on my drz400sm along with a full fmf, cams and stroker crank man would that thing rip. Would get pulled over all the time because of how loud and couldn't see my plate.lol shouldn't have ever traded it it for a gixxer.
Haha! So lopey! That sound I bet... Badass
I wonder wether these are available in Europe. I love the idea of a 2005 bike produced in 2020.
Not sure? Pretty gnarly emissions standards over there? Euro 4? Or Euro 5? Is that right.
Can't see a carb'd bike getting by....
@@mxrevival Not for race bikes. obviously not for the street. Not even the KTMs and Hondas are anything close to street legal. But you can buy them to go racing.
@@mxrevival no emissions for off road bikes only for road bikes so its possible it all depends on if there is enough demand.
Jeff Willow still testing?
Negative, at least that's what I was told last Wednesday at the ride day.
Thank you! Is this bike a copy of a more common bike I could buy accessories for, or an original design?
Hi Mark, Yes it's sort of a Honda CRF450 (2016) clone in some ways & origonal in others. Stay tuned for some more mods- including body mods & we've jsut created the first actual SR300 Decal Kit! Excited about it! www.mxrevival.com/contact // www.mxrevival.com/copy-of-shop-tools
I may have to try and get one of these they look so nice and look like they ride nice. Upgrade from a rm85 i need more ccs.
Definitely have yourself a look at one in person if you can!
Is the suspension older showa copies. Bike looks fun!!
It is!
48mm fork, a little different inside. Twin chamber, pretty heavy.
Shock, not sure inside yet. But I does lack an HSC. Has low speed Comp & Reb though.
We'll be digging into this stuff for different setups in the pretty near future.
Good question Jim!
i kinda dont want to mod the crp out of a bike when i buy it new but still cheaper than a yamaha honda kawi or ktm
You certainly don't HAVE to mod anything. It could be enjoyed as is....but you know hw we dirt-bikers can be 😁
@@mxrevival yeah but man i cant handle that chinese feeling when riding a bike , and that underpowered motor with the weight it has to carry around will get you into serious trouble and its not easy to keep under control , but however they seem to have found a way to make the chinese bikes a bit more manageable than before , i think ill wait 5 more years for the bike to be done untill then id just buy a pre owned yz125
I feels like playing video game when I watch your videos..
Nice!!! Super fun! Thanks for watching Roger 🤘
Great video
Thanks Dude!
Killer video. But aren't you scared the forks will fly off on a jump or the frame snap in half?
Haha, obviously not?
Lectron carb , link ok, product 'not found'
I heard there were endurance MX races in Glen Helen, fancy have a run in your SR300? 6, 10, 24 Hour races! Perfect testing ground for the durability of the SSR!
Straight up! There re some talks about this with a few close buddies!
@@mxrevival you betcha I am gonna watch that. I see that SSR also sold by the Benelli dealer, Benelli has nice bang for buck bikes as well.
@@paolomendioro1187 Yeah man! They own Benelli too, that's right. I saw a few at the dealership & they looked fun
@@mxrevival So that's a pumper carb they are putting in there huh, definitely not a Keihin PWK-type, what are those?
And interesting that these are Chinese clone FCRs and not actual Keihin FCRs, and the bike as you say became really potent!
@@paolomendioro1187 that's right! I can't believe that they are copies, they are almost identical to the original Keihin carbs save for a few little details.
Basically these pumper carburetors are found on four strokes because, regular carburetors like a PWK lacks an accelerator pump.
Four strokes benefit greatly from the use of an accelerator pump, which supplies a fine mist of fuel at the very, very, very beginning of rolling a throttle back. The throttle linkage pushes a rod down into a diaphragm, which then forces fuel through a tiny jet called a leak jet. That jet circuit thrn plumbs into the center bore of the carburetors Venturi.
The reason they benefit from these is because four strokes do not produce enough engine vacuum to draw the fuel in on their own as well as two strokes.
They will obviously run without a pumper carb but gain immense throttle response from the use of them specifically off the very bottom of the power curve.
So this may bring up the question, how do we use our Lectron on the SSR if it is not a pumper type carburetor...
Basically the tolerances in our Lectron are much greater and tighter, allowing the bike to run more efficiently with a standard style carburetor ("two stroke style carb") and has a price point to match. And of course, no jetting ever.
There is actually a four-stroke variant Lectron as well, but the price almost twice as much, so we opted for a unit that matches the price point of the bike itself. Either carburetor will work wonders in the bike. As do pumper swaps.
The four stroke Lectron also does not have an accelerator pump, but rather a fuel bypass which allows more fuel off the bottom end in a similar way to a pumper, just without the jets, linkages, and diaphragms.
Lots of good options for carburetor guys all the way from perfect jetting to jetless carburetors these days.
Question is can it hang with the bigger name brand bikes?
That comes down to the rider 🤘
True! I’m trying to get a 250s so maybe we can ride together one day! I live in Alabama so you would love some of the tracks down this way
I've just bought a Chinese Kurz FS250 with a Zhongshen engine. It's got a Molkt carb in it, but no idea if it's good or bad as i've only recently started riding dirt bikes. Interesting to see what you do to improve your bike and if can do something similar.
You'll like the series I have on this bike. I think it will answer some of those questions! th-cam.com/play/PL_oYXNbYADbKcVE5-1ziR2exgppjvvGJQ.html
@@mxrevival i've watched all of them, the new carb really made a difference. Would i be right in saying a 2 stroke style carb has an air screw and 4 stroke style has fuel screw?
I would nonstop worry about the headtube breaking off if i jumped something to flat like i do from time to time. I broke the frame on a 2000 kx250 back in the day i wonder if the frame is decent. And my guy, youve been riding since you were a little kid??? Are you afraid to go fast or are you not confident in the equipment?
Hey it could happen! We see it happen too Japanese bikes with some type of regularity... Can't imagine how gnarly that would be to have actually happen.
Although it's not meant to be a high performance machine to begin with.
I'm not here to change anyone's mind either. Had fun though!
😂 Dude- did you forget you're watching a video of a Chinese dirt bike, ridden by some random dude on TH-cam, on a track he's never actually been to?
Or did you confuse this for one of Cole Seely's videos?
@@mxrevival shit man i kinda wish i would have reworded that comment i really wasn't trying to be an asshole at all. I honestly just meant to ask if the bike felt weird or handled bad or are you simply not a fan of pounding laps as hard as possible. I honestly meant no disrespect bro im not that guy that calls beginners posers. I was a beginner once, so was Cole Seely. Its genuine curiosity man. Ya the frame on my kx broke right at the junction from the headtube to the rails where the forward engine mount is. The engine was about to fall out of the frame and everything. The last and only bike i ever owned that wasn't blue.
When you said dual-sport. Is their an option for turn signals and headlights?
I don't believe so in STOCK trim but JR was alluding to a kit... So hopefully that shows up in the future!
@@mxrevival Thanks. Just found out about the GPX Dual Sports. (I just started down the Chinese rabbit hole....)
Sounds like an older CRF250. Sounds exactly like the 06 I had back in 06
Twice piper💨💨💨💨
You guys did it!! I'm convinced enough to get the 300 kit for my 250. Thanks 👍
Oh hell yes! Did you catch the part in the video where we are talking about how one of the bikes seems to Rev really, really well and run better?
Turns out that bike was at 250, that got turned into a 300 the same way you will do yours.
It still had the 250 ignition, which Jr said was the reason it ran so peppy.
Stoked for you!
I've already purchased a 250 ignition to try on my 300, why not haha 🤣
I'm looking to get one? Can you tell me how's the weight feel on the SSR 300? Thank you if you respond 🤗
It's a big bike (256lb), but like most motorcycles, the "weighted feel" always dims when you are actually in motion.
Not too much worse than the higher performance offerings in off-road trim.
Great, mellow power with good looks, well equipped accessories & great price are the bikes biggest positive attributes.
You're welcome💪
Thanks for posting this video! I just bought a 2020 SSR 300 and experience the same carb issues. Any idea when the kit will be available, where to buy it, and how much it costs?
I’d love to see you ride that thing out at Brushy Mountain, NC. Super technical trails.
Put a Honda 300ex ATV carb on it.
You're very welcome, I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
I don't have any extra insight on the how much or when just yet on the "kit"- Only what I was able to catch in the video for us.
You *_could_* snag a used FCR on eBay too, if waiting gets too long. I am not sure where the jet specs would end up but I'd love to try one (they may be sending me a setup & I'd for sure test if for us)
*Another option you might enjoy:* I recently developed an all-new Lectron carb for this bike with my guys in house there.
*Here's the all new SSR Motorsports mod page on our website* , and the new Lectron/ pricing/ etc. Takes us about 10 days to build one from scratch just for you: www.mxrevival.com/product-page/lectron-carburetors-2020-ssr-motorcycles-sr300
*And here's the install video:* th-cam.com/video/PFKjn6fyG9E/w-d-xo.html
Our shop SR300 shreds now and I am getting some incredible emails form our SSR customers about it. Makes my day, straight up!
One of our customers is actually IN Colorado too 🤘
Any questions just holler!
-Charles // mXrevival
Hey Charles, Ill be in the market soon and am entertaining the SSR SR300S. Id like to get the motor modle number, I believe its a zongshen just not sure what the modle number is, any way you could send me that info?
Congrats! Look at the new KOVE 250 as well. If I were back in the market for a Chinese bike, that is where I would go. It is pretty sick! I guess they have a 450 dropping in the future as well.
As far as the Zongshen engine goes, 250 is called the NC250 and the 300 is…. You guessed it…. the NC300.
They differ in literally no way other than the cylinder bore size.
There is an NC450 as well, but it is a completely different layout from the other two. Hope that helps!
@mxrevival thanks a million for the info. And yep, I have seen th Kove as well, it is also on my radar!! Be well and Happy New Year to you all.
Is a ssr450 faster then a yz250f or and 250?
No, not at all. It's a great, well rounded bike to enjoy with good amenities. Very very few people can utilize the power 100% from any bike.
How to buy the SSR SR 300S Here in Philippines?
www.ssrmotorsports.com/store/dealer_locator.php