@@tucsinglek2042 I’m talking about the part where he says “he didn’t do anything illegal so theres no problem”. I know Ellefson is an amazing player and i think that particular event shouldn’t destroy his career but it was still a terrible thing to do regardless.
1:51 Many people get this wrong, but Ellefson was able to play Megadeth's stuff with his fingers, since he was playing with his fingers until sometime around the first album, where he made the change to preserve his right hand's stamina, and because he preferred the tone that pick players had. You can go back and look at early live shows, he was using his fingers while playing songs from the first two albums without much of a hitch, even being able to follow some of Dave's soloing during the instrumental "Quicksand".
I think this was close but there was a bit too much low-mid in there and the end result shifted the balance so it sounded less "jangly" or "bright" vs. the classic Megadeth bass sound. I think if you used some EQ to to trim the low mids it would feel closer.
I definitely hear a P pickup sound in things like Peace Sells. Love the presentation in this video, bro! May have needed juuuust a little more presence/2-3k but it's pretty close!
I try to keep these videos as short as I can, and sometimes that means cutting out things. The Which Bass channel does an exhaustive list of Dave’s gear, among others.
Thanks for the video guys, but I don’t think it sounds like Ellefson. Hartke and a neck EMG 35CS for the new stuff. EMG PJs and an Ashley preamp for Peace Sells tone. Pick near the bridge, and pick hard.
@@Farewelltokingz true on compression, but his old PJs didn’t have onboard preamps. The 30th anniversary one does. Tbh you’re right about not needing all those specific amps, but I can’t lie, the emg pickups are important.
@@Farewelltokingz Spector definitely did, come to think of it, the original concert bass def did have one, I was wrong, either the EMGs were soldered to the Jackson/Charvel Pre or it was all replaced by an EMG harness. I know the 30th anniversary uses all EMG
@@ionehkontehdiabo7627 his basses always had preamps, at least the Jacksons. Before adding the EMGs during the CTE album, the jackson basses had a 2 band pre amp, the JE2000 (Bass and treble boost and cut) 😊
Great video mate, its always lovely to hear insight like this! A tone I'm very curious about is Paul Gray from Slipknot I've been messing around with multiple pedals, but just can't seem to get it right, so a video like that would be awesome possum
The big trick to getting those kind of driven tones is bi-amping, which is easy enough when recording but if you're playing in the room and you only have the one amp, then signal blending. Your lows should be clean and compressed. Your mids and highs should be distorted. The stuff that often kills in a mix can also often sound pretty ugly on its own! But yeah if you want to do it with one amp and you don't have a Microtubes X7, then a drive with a blend knob with a compressor working hard in front of it will get you partway there, but better yet a splitter would be good, so there is a separate path for lows and mids/highs. That way you can have your clean lows, and also high pass your drives
@@madconaIt’s because he doesn’t have access to any Basses with active pickups really. I’m also pretty sure rust in peace is straight into board with no amp and some EQ.
1:51 technically, Wikipedia is paraphrasing Ellefson, he said he made the switch to a using a plectrum around “Peace Sells” in order to accommodate for the faster tempos, The first album and live gigs dated before peace he was playing a mix of finger-style and pick.
I was never much of a fan, but after doing this video I found myself listening to Megadeth just because. Start with Rust in Peace and see where that takes you.
YES YES YES. Although if you want to know, look at his equipboard. Spector or any PJ bass with EMGs through solid state amps with new strings will get you there
Hi AMP, First I wanna say nice video, really like it. All the tone samples are really close but the originals have more hi end information I think (to my ears) and sound more "airy" as well. I have a hard n heavy cover band where we play lots of Megadeth stuff. In adition I'm a big Ellefson fan. So that I'm trying to give an Ellefson vibe in the band. I know Ellefson's sound is so clean and really away from a drive pedal but in orther to have that hi and airy clarity I'm using my EHX Soulfood bass pedal. When I hit that one everything changes. It brings the feeling of the compression in the low end, brings a vide range of frequency responce and the hi end information that I'm talking about. Sure I need to tell that the bass I'm using has EMG pickups on it. Maybe the starting point is that ;)
I personally think Megadeth did him dirty and should've given him a second chance after the sex scandal. I'd say this tone is pretty close so good job! Very well done! I know bassists don't normally palm mute nor is it good to do frequently unlike guitar but I'd say he does so tastefully in moderation, particularly if there's not much else happening.
well it was proven that david was innocent when it came to the whole child grooming stuff so yeah they did him dirty and where just trying to have a good image
Funny, I Came to the Video to See if I could improve my Sound. Turns out im already playing a mxr di plus into a hartke with a pic. I liked my Sound before and now I know im just an eq fiddeling away from beeing a clone.😅 Since im Not playing thrash I guess its ok
I mean honestly he has P basses and seems to like them yet obviously doesn't use them for any of the music he plays. Seems to me like that would indicate you really can't play p basses for metal at least as far as I can tell from his actions. Interesting conclusion you came to though
@@Facu_Roldan People care. Otherwise it wouldn't really have generated buzz. If everything that didn't affect someone directly wasn't of a concern of theirs we'd still be barbarians. I don't think it would've this big a trouble if she wasn't so young.
Big difference between your tone and the Ellefson Tone !! this is not really the David Ellefson sound !! you need more clarity and medium in your tone !! and more comp ...
Great video, but why would you want that sound. 😂😂 Remember, he is basically a guitar player playing bass and you know what kind of bass tone guitar players like. 🤘
Ellefson didnt do anything illegal so theres no problem, but his right hand technique is among the best for a reason xd
That doesnt change the fact that he cheated on his wife though.
So it’s okay to morally reprehensible as long as it’s not illegal? What a goofy take😂
@@yakeeb3742 its not a good thing but hes a rockstar spanking his monkey consentually to some groupie, no one really cares
@@hotdogdownahallway741 which has nothing to do with his bass playing. just a problem between his wife and him an not the whole fucking world.
@@tucsinglek2042 I’m talking about the part where he says “he didn’t do anything illegal so theres no problem”. I know Ellefson is an amazing player and i think that particular event shouldn’t destroy his career but it was still a terrible thing to do regardless.
I played with David this past weekend. Talented bass player! Also he played through my darkglass he likes it alot.
did he play with u after?
@@gnocky2292 what the fuck was that
@@gnocky2292 💀💀
using a pick is actually a big part of his tone
1:51
Many people get this wrong, but Ellefson was able to play Megadeth's stuff with his fingers, since he was playing with his fingers until sometime around the first album, where he made the change to preserve his right hand's stamina, and because he preferred the tone that pick players had.
You can go back and look at early live shows, he was using his fingers while playing songs from the first two albums without much of a hitch, even being able to follow some of Dave's soloing during the instrumental "Quicksand".
He actually said it was starting to get too difficult to play Mustaine's music with fingers.
I know. You know. You know I know. I know you know. Ya know?
@LowEndLobster salutations from this crustacean!
You got 80% there, but its missing some Brightness. Ellefson has a very bright and scooped tone, with the low end compressed a ton.
I think this was close but there was a bit too much low-mid in there and the end result shifted the balance so it sounded less "jangly" or "bright" vs. the classic Megadeth bass sound. I think if you used some EQ to to trim the low mids it would feel closer.
I definitely hear a P pickup sound in things like Peace Sells. Love the presentation in this video, bro! May have needed juuuust a little more presence/2-3k but it's pretty close!
Sounds a little less crispy than his tone, but I bet some active EMGs would change that real quick.
You forgot his 800rb. That was the most important part of his sound in the 80s and 90s
I try to keep these videos as short as I can, and sometimes that means cutting out things. The Which Bass channel does an exhaustive list of Dave’s gear, among others.
How about how to sound like Rex Brown especially on the reinventing the steel album.
Thanks for the video guys, but I don’t think it sounds like Ellefson. Hartke and a neck EMG 35CS for the new stuff. EMG PJs and an Ashley preamp for Peace Sells tone. Pick near the bridge, and pick hard.
Actually not that hard. He just compresses pretty hard and uses full boost on his Bass’s 3 band preamp
@@Farewelltokingz true on compression, but his old PJs didn’t have onboard preamps. The 30th anniversary one does. Tbh you’re right about not needing all those specific amps, but I can’t lie, the emg pickups are important.
@@ionehkontehdiabo7627 Of course EMGs are important. I think his Jackson’s and Spector had a preamp but the BC Rich’s didn’t
@@Farewelltokingz Spector definitely did, come to think of it, the original concert bass def did have one, I was wrong, either the EMGs were soldered to the Jackson/Charvel Pre or it was all replaced by an EMG harness. I know the 30th anniversary uses all EMG
@@ionehkontehdiabo7627 his basses always had preamps, at least the Jacksons. Before adding the EMGs during the CTE album, the jackson basses had a 2 band pre amp, the JE2000 (Bass and treble boost and cut) 😊
Great video mate, its always lovely to hear insight like this!
A tone I'm very curious about is Paul Gray from Slipknot
I've been messing around with multiple pedals, but just can't seem to get it right, so a video like that would be awesome possum
The big trick to getting those kind of driven tones is bi-amping, which is easy enough when recording but if you're playing in the room and you only have the one amp, then signal blending.
Your lows should be clean and compressed. Your mids and highs should be distorted. The stuff that often kills in a mix can also often sound pretty ugly on its own!
But yeah if you want to do it with one amp and you don't have a Microtubes X7, then a drive with a blend knob with a compressor working hard in front of it will get you partway there, but better yet a splitter would be good, so there is a separate path for lows and mids/highs. That way you can have your clean lows, and also high pass your drives
Great approach dude! Thanks and regards from Brazil.
Thank you for the video! That was awesome!
I don't think David Ellefson needs a disclaimer at the beginning of the video man. It's not like he is convicted for some heinous crime.
There was a sale on a Jackson 5-string recently so I picked one up. It costed $270 to sound EXACTLY like Dave
Sry, but to my ears, it didn't sound like him at all..
Agreed
Not even close
Sadly I also have to agree.
It seems to be a bit of a theme with this guy
@@madconaIt’s because he doesn’t have access to any Basses with active pickups really. I’m also pretty sure rust in peace is straight into board with no amp and some EQ.
1:51 technically, Wikipedia is paraphrasing Ellefson, he said he made the switch to a using a plectrum around “Peace Sells” in order to accommodate for the faster tempos, The first album and live gigs dated before peace he was playing a mix of finger-style and pick.
I recall he also said the producer asked him to do it since it cuts thru easier
best end to an intro ever XD i know you know i know it was good.
Great Video!!
HOW TO SOUND FRANK BELLO PLEASE!!!!!
You guys need to do Red Fang!
Thanx for putting me on
And I’ll have to get the settings for the b1four
His tone on Countdown to extinction is the metal template, in my humble opinion
Great job! Killer job dialing in the tone dude
That headstock joke! 😃
i just got a charvel 4b with the same pj active pickups as his jackson. it’s incredible the tone is exactly the same. i put blue steels on it tho
A hell of a pick player. One of the busiest right hands in the business.
I guess I never really listened to Megadeth ,maybe I should.
You definitely should
I was never much of a fan, but after doing this video I found myself listening to Megadeth just because. Start with Rust in Peace and see where that takes you.
Peace Sells is one of my favorites
Peace sells and Rust In Peace are your two best friends of Megadeths catalog!
He uses the same picks I use.
Can we get video on how to sound like Geezer?
What a nice shirt
The dawn Patrol and peace sells tones sound way off! Turn up the treble
8:07 most interesting part of video
This guy had to do that intro cuz he fears being caught in 4k as well, he like "I would never" hahhahahha
Please do Eddie Jackson from Queensryche.
YES YES YES. Although if you want to know, look at his equipboard. Spector or any PJ bass with EMGs through solid state amps with new strings will get you there
I don’t know if the strings on your bass were new or not but I’m not sure you can mimic Dave Ellefson’s tone without new strings.
I really appreciated Ellefsons bass playing on Bust in peace
Dave is so underrated, mostly because of pick versus pluck elitists ❤❤❤❤
Hi AMP,
First I wanna say nice video, really like it. All the tone samples are really close but the originals have more hi end information I think (to my ears) and sound more "airy" as well. I have a hard n heavy cover band where we play lots of Megadeth stuff. In adition I'm a big Ellefson fan. So that I'm trying to give an Ellefson vibe in the band. I know Ellefson's sound is so clean and really away from a drive pedal but in orther to have that hi and airy clarity I'm using my EHX Soulfood bass pedal. When I hit that one everything changes. It brings the feeling of the compression in the low end, brings a vide range of frequency responce and the hi end information that I'm talking about. Sure I need to tell that the bass I'm using has EMG pickups on it. Maybe the starting point is that ;)
On next week's episode: How to sing like.... Ian Watkins
Nothing sounded like his tone. When you were trying to play peace sells I had no idea what you were playing… maybe woodshed a little bit more.
Sound like Greg Christian from Testament! Or Lemmy Kilmister
Good mention with Christian he is excellent
Rex brown would be great too
Only way to sound like Megadeth is to be Megadeth! 💯
i’m really bothered by how this man plays peace sells riff
Great vid, but the way you played Peace Sells hurt me a bit, it clearly sounds so wrong to the record
Am I the only one bothered how he played peace sells? Lol
How to sound like Jason Newsted in "Justice for All". That would be great.
They did that already
Don't turn on your amp and you're good to go.
His tone on those albums was actually insane. Check out the isolated bass tracks
Already got you covered! th-cam.com/video/Cpd7BI8m9-A/w-d-xo.html
You are so funny and original
Pick thickness matter a great deal, i am surprised he uses .88
dUg Pinnick. You gotta do a How to Sound Like... dUg Pinnick. THEE Godfather of modern rock and metal bass tone!
Yeah, that won't happen with a Zoom pedal alone.
@@Jett-Litt but with the sandamp dug pinnick sig pedal, it will and it will only do this sound.
david likes the tone to be borderline 18 lmao, bi amped of course
Lmao
missing a bit of cranking in the sound
GOTTA DO REX BROWN!!!!!!!!!!
hi messi plays bass :)
would love to see a take on Troy Sanders' or Paul Gray's bass tone
What about a comparison between Jason Newsted and Robert Trujillo playing the same Metallica songs?
DO REX BROWN!!!!!!
Practice
Dan Maines of clutch
Frank Bello
Didn't sound close imo
Please do video about Robert Trujillo tone pls
You guys should do Robert Trujillo
You guys need to start to add eq to your tutorials bc you’re using the right things but it doesn’t sound like it at all bc the eq is wrong
Would loooove a How to sound like... video for Ghost. The latest album, Impera, has some of the best bass tone I've ever heard. 👌👌🤘🤘
How'd you do this with a HX Stomp? 🤔
where do we find the patch? I looked on patreon and couldn't find it anywhere
intro song?
Easy... You do that thing where you grab your cheek and move it in and out
Side note... Great video! Really informative, well researched and excellently presented! This format works really well!
Lmaoooo good one
Tim Commerford tone! PLEASE!!!! 🙏🙏🙏
Gene Simmons next please
I personally think Megadeth did him dirty and should've given him a second chance after the sex scandal. I'd say this tone is pretty close so good job! Very well done! I know bassists don't normally palm mute nor is it good to do frequently unlike guitar but I'd say he does so tastefully in moderation, particularly if there's not much else happening.
well it was proven that david was innocent when it came to the whole child grooming stuff so yeah they did him dirty and where just trying to have a good image
Man why the fuck did you play peace sells like that LOL
How to sound like Dave: " Hey girl, are you underage?"
Why?
Funny, I Came to the Video to See if I could improve my Sound.
Turns out im already playing a mxr di plus into a hartke with a pic.
I liked my Sound before and now I know im just an eq fiddeling away from beeing a clone.😅
Since im Not playing thrash I guess its ok
P.s. and besides the gear there also is a significant skill difference 😅
I mean honestly he has P basses and seems to like them yet obviously doesn't use them for any of the music he plays. Seems to me like that would indicate you really can't play p basses for metal at least as far as I can tell from his actions. Interesting conclusion you came to though
You need new strings and u were picking to far away from the bridge I'm sorry but this was a massive fail
Dave Ellefson did nothing wrong. But it seems that the court of public opinion is more important than the truth, or an actual court for that matter.
He cheated on his wife and while she wasn't underage, it's still creepy.
Grooming.
Grooming.
@@AcidifiedMammoth and who cares? It's none of our business. It's not like he killed or raped someone.
@@Facu_Roldan People care. Otherwise it wouldn't really have generated buzz. If everything that didn't affect someone directly wasn't of a concern of theirs we'd still be barbarians. I don't think it would've this big a trouble if she wasn't so young.
Red bass sounded best
Nope . Not as crisp as the real . Yours sounds like a blanket over the amp.
So...u gonna do a video on how u can WHACK it just like Ellefson to a 16yr old broad?
yeah just hit up lil girls and you'll soon to sounding like him for sure
😂😂
I think that tone isn't the ellefson s tone
Wikipedia is not an authority on all fact unless your a fool....but wer you using dead strings?
The bass you have is nice and you sound great but i don't think it sounds like him.
I think you need to get reverse p pickup to get even closer
Pls...how to sound like John Myung is good to be the next video.. cheers
Just turn down your volume lol
Nice explanations, but the sound isn't even in the ballpark of Dave's sound.
Agreed
Stop trying to sound like someone, just sound like yourself your identity your own style
Big difference between your tone and the Ellefson Tone !! this is not really the David Ellefson sound !! you need more clarity and medium in your tone !! and more comp ...
imagine being davids ex wife, and this video shows up
Sounds nothing like Dave Ellefson
Do in waves trivium on bass pls or I unsubscribe
Being somebody that doesn't listen to Megadeth, I'm not too sure about this one.
I hated how David ended up being screwed by some bs rumors that ended up being totally untrue.
It doesn’t change the fact that he mastrbated to a 19 year old girl, which is disturbing
@@creamysauce7966 you’d be surprised with most girls with sugar daddies then lmao
@@WildWildWeasel I'm not surprised, but it still disgusts me.
Y'know, there are a thousand bassists who didn't groom a teenager before cheating on their wife. Maybe you could have picked one of them!
Separate the art from the artist, my friend.
Great video, but why would you want that sound. 😂😂 Remember, he is basically a guitar player playing bass and you know what kind of bass tone guitar players like. 🤘
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