Why Don't We Have Pet Foxes?
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- Both foxes and dogs belong to the same family Canidae. Then why haven’t foxes become our companions too?
To answer this, in 1950, a group of Russian scientists began an experiment to try and create the first ever pet fox species. The study led by Russian geneticist Dmitry K. Belyaev started out to understand how animals are domesticated.
There is some evidence that early humans did try to tame the fox. But foxes are very shy and chaotic animals. In comparison, the wolf might have been easier to domesticate. This might be one reason that they weren’t domesticated.
The Russian fox farm experiment showed that it is possible to tame the fox. They are now investigating which genes might make some animals like the dogs friendly towards humans but others like foxes aggressive.
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Not much foxes could do for humans back then. We want them because they're cute
They’re like small dogs if they were not defective looking.
We can pet a fox!
There is a domestic foxes. If you dont belevie me , see videos about pet fox
@@nightever426 Fennec Foxes are very small foxes (they can literally fit in your hand!) that are sometimes sold as pets, and since they are omnivorous, they can eat just about anything, though, IIRC they have a preference for fruit, and they can survive longer than most animals can without water as their natural habitat tends to be in deserts. They can be very loud in certain circumstances, so much so that they could likely even be heard from outside of your house even with all of your windows & doors closed. But Fennec Foxes are undeniably cute little things, and if you are willing and able to make the commitment, a Fennec Fox could make a good pet if you learn how to properly raise and care for one.
And in rare cases, wild foxes that can no longer return to the wild can sometimes be kept as "pets", but that is only because those foxes can't survive in the wild anymore. If you happen to come across a very young Kit (a baby fox) that has lost his/her mother somehow, it might be possible to get that baby to "imprint" on you and come to view you as it's new parent, but even then, they would still be wild animals at their core, and that is something you would always have to keep in mind.
They eat mice too tho. And they are good at sniffing things out too. To me it's still kind of a mystery why we didn't try to tame them. Maybe they just wouldn't stop stealing the chicken...
Foxes hunt mice Wolves hunt Bison.. guess which one I'm domesticating.
@Guinevere No, domesticating a bison!
@Guinevere the bison duhhh
Human
Cat: "I'm a joke to you?"
@@karlkarlos3545 fun fact, human have never tried to domestic cats... They came to human on their own wills
Most animals can be tamed. I live in a big city and my seagull comes to visit me every day. He responds to my call and taps the window to let me know he's there🤗. I feed him from the hand, through time he has learned to snatch it in a more gentle way.
Cool God loves you. He have you animal friend.
@@livefree316
Thx :-)
@@livefree316
You dont understand. There is a difference between taming and domesticating.
Keeping a fox, lion or wolf as a pet is torturing the animal as you force it going against their nature
@@lightup6751 Jesus is the LIGHT OF THE WORLD. ..who can light you up! 😃🙏❤💯✝🇺🇸
@@lightup6751 p.s i.do.understand. GOD IS IN CHARGE and make any animal tame and give human help and friend. I'm not saying to trt to be Tarzan. I'm saying if God makes it happen. Its a blessing and a miracle
0:31-0:34 isn't a fox at all, It's a Yellow Mongoose.
No shit
:00000 REALLY?!?!?!!?
Thank God someone noticed.
I literally bursted out laughing when I saw that- 😂
This made me laugh really loud
A friend of mine tried to keep as a pet a fox cub they found in the woods.
While the little fox was adorable, quite affectionate and even learnt how to use a litter-box, he was also hyper-active, really loud at night, smelly and constantly biting furniture all around the house. It goes without saying that he wasn't a welcome presence for the chickens in their farm either - and could not be trained not to hunt for them.
Unfortunately he ran away after a couple of months after smelling his mother and brothers. We don't know for sure if he joined back the group and if he's able to hunt to survive after his time with humans.
Long story short: until a tame/more domesticated kind of fox is bred, they do not make for good pets. They are beautiful and smart animals, but are better left in the wild.
I have a friend that has a pet fox…he’s adorable
I spoke to someone who had one as a pet. He said it was the worst pet, it used to shit in the house and chew everything.
I often wonder how we domesticated cats made it into the home but no foxes.
They’re like a hybrid between a cat & a dog
Umm, because we already have cats why would we ever need foxes?
@@zhiqianwen Became they're cool! JESUS made them
JESUS make you new.
John 3:3
Foxes are like cheetahs of the dog
@@zhiqianwen because foxes are fluffy, pretty, cute, and more stuff
We never domesticated cats. They basically domesticated themselves.
They love to poop on EVERYTHING. My brother befriended a local red Fox family and they pooped all over the patio as a result.
The good reason is that foxes use that smell as a powerful defense to keep pest and other bad animals away.
Wolves are pretty close to humans in size-100+ pounds-so it makes sense that they would’ve been helpful in hunting similar ice-age prey, eventually turning into dogs (and shrinking into chihuahuas 1000s of years later as needs changed). Foxes are naturally tiny in comparison, and wouldn’t have been much assistance until we invented agriculture and needed rodent control. But cats-still barely distinguishable from wild cousins today-were more murderous predators and filled that niche first.
Dogs are not descendants of modern wolves though, they're descendants of a different, now extinct, type of wolf that was much smaller than modern wolves.
@@sachemofboston3649 “modern wolves are bigger than their ancestors.” Are you sure bro? Can you share any information that confirming it?
@@princeofpersia6879o He didn't say that modern wolf ancestors were smaller. He said the breed of wolf we domesticated was smaller and of a different kind. And yes this is proven to be the case, very early records of fossilised burials show that the domesticated wolf-dogs we buried were actually smaller than some modern big dogs and wolfs today.
@@sachemofboston3649 not true.
Dog is technically still a wolf.
There are many subspecies of Canis lupus, from small to huge ones.
It is only human mannerism naming domestic form of species as different species. By the way, that is now ended and it will be corrected in foreseeable future.
@@tulenik71 so dogs and wolves are still the same species?
A couple of archaeological findings (Jordan, 16,500 y.a., Barcelona 3000 y.a.) suggests that people tried to domesticate foxes. These attempts were however local and short-lived.
In Russia, fox tames you.
In Russia, we have bears as pets :P
We already have pet foxes...
True, but this is talking about why we don’t have way more ofter
Not true, we have domesticated foxes. Not let foxes. The foxes right now, aren’t interested in us. They will come by, but won’t come and hug sniff and snuggle.
JackQTV Games and Memes, ok? Sai Sai didn’t say pet foxes weren’t domesticated.
@@jackqtvsstuff715 Not sure you know what domestication is.
@@thatguyshawzy Not true.Take a heck of a lot of selective breeding down the line for at least fifty years,a hell of a lot euthanized, a lot of throw backs, playing with genetics and nature morally wrong,all for trend selfishness and money,let them be,nature can bite back in a very grotesque way and with vengeance.
We can tame many animals when we study to understand them. we have to learn 'their language'. Learn how they tick: how they bond, how they show trust. The thing they only live in pairs, not as a pack, night make them very loyal pets, but not friendly towards a large family. Of course the long tamed stock would tell more of the pet foxes . Need to watch those clips.
maybe if we have pet foxes. we will answer the question "what does the fox say?"
Yeah it sound hehehehe
HEHEHEHEHEHEH HEHEHEHEHEHEH
EHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
Didn't go to well with poultry.
I still don't know why the chicken crossed the road !!!
they just laugh at you if you ask
Science ABC: We can't have pet foxes
Finnegan fox (Saveafox rescue): Hehehehehehe
i honestly dont know why foxes were never domesticated. they would've been the go to companion for small rodent control in human environments. their eyes are phenominal, and they are small and agile enough to go where bigger dogs cant.
Your talking about a cat we have that.
@@mymymy9452 yes exactly
Actually, domesticated foxes do exist.
Because cats decided to do that on their own without even needing much domestication.
Thanks very informative video
Love this channel :D
No
Shit he said no
I searched for this topic because we have two juvenile foxes living in our condo community. They hang out right outside my building, running and playing with each other in the evenings. Neighbors have reported seeing what they presume is the mother with the youngsters, but I’ve only seen the young ones. We’re in a fairly urban area, too, with freeways all around us. I’ve seen plenty of coyotes, possums, raccoons, and the occasional bobcat, all within our fenced and gated community. The foxes are new, only having been seen in the past year or two.
Seeing them run around outside, along with the fact that they don’t seem to try to run off or hide when they see a human, made me wonder why they haven’t been domesticated. This video explains it well. Maybe if we work on them for a few thousand years, we’ll get there.
like 2C more on the genitics study btwn the russian and 'wild' fox. Run some cross tabs w/the domestic dog. Where can I find THAT info? I think the marker genes may even have implications for genitics in humans...
Thank you and God bless....
Everyone gangsta until a raccoon steals food of your pet
We can now have the ability to keep animals for fun.
For thousands of years the only animals you could have are ones that benefit humans.
We have a fox here and it only comes around once in a while we feed it here and there but it’s been a week since we seen it
I recently had a fox like in my front yard and it was so cute
Imagine having a great white shark as a pet.
Winter time they do
We tried to but they became cats
Now we have pilot who are the 1st human petting fox..
Fox 1 -semi radar
Fox 2 -infrared heat seeker
Fox 3 -infrared radar
"infrared radar"
Bruh I'm pretty sure u can have them as a pet pretty much everywhere
seeing this with alepouphobia its hard to know that people adopt foxes
Lmao stop making up words
@@blakegebauer76 alepu its fox in greec, and phobia i think everybody knows
@@BeS2S2 your scared of foxes that doesnt make it a phobia
@@blakegebauer76 bro, i panic, like really panic
@@blakegebauer76 well it kinda does. A phobia is an irrational fear. I would say being afraid of foxes is a bit irrational.
It's probably slot to do with socialising. Dogs and wolves are highly social paired to foxes which which use more mob strength
1:42 so its also cats.
2:27 people, do NOT listen there. That's not true can i barn!
Four of the reasons is that foxes have a more advanced developmental ability than other animal species are.
foxes intelligence are lower the other in canidae but still is foxes smarter than them. Too high intelligence. So foxes should not be as bored in captivity.
Foxes sleep 9,8 hours of day. Wolves sleep 7 hours. Human sleep 8,2 hours of day.
In London and other cities, foxes are shown to be able to develop domestication on their own paw (hand).
I love animals more then human s
Same
Weirdos
Same
Same if a fox came to me I’d keep it and if a person comes to hang with me I’ll say just cause I have a lot of money doesn’t mean u can be friends with me.
Nice theory.
Its a cat + a dog
This is big brain time
one of my first observations, when I moved into London, was that city foxes share lots of personality traits with both dogs and cats, particularly in the way they move and sit
🦊.my favorite animals are foxes.🦊
My too fox🦊🦊🦊🥰😍
Just like some dogs are better pets than others, so goes the fox. There are numerous dog breeds that while cute, don't make great pets due to thier nature. I think this explains a lot of why foxes may not be good pets.
I love foxes I always wanted a fox as a pet and I was looking if I could get one and I say this video and I love it so maybe people can try again
I’m certain a chihuahua is more terrifying than a wolf
Foxes are too mysterious for Humans they should stay with the Monks guarding the Shrines.
Can you please make a video about fox evolution?
Hi Andres, Thanks for the suggestion. We will surely put this on our list for future videos.
urban foxes are self domesticating. heads are getting shorter and wider and brains smaller. males and females also becoming similar in size. very interesting animals. who knows what will become of them and us.
I know a few people that have pet foxes, foxes are able to be tamed and be a pet, just in a few states though
I love the idea of primitive humans just deciding to do a little side quest of making animal friends even while still fighting to survive
It was most probably an initiative of both sides.
WHY!!! I WANT A FOX!!!
You can buy them in Russia.
Samw 🥺🦊😭🦊🥺😭
Well, there are. Like fennec fox.
I'm subscribed to several pet fox channels on TH-cam. I think they're great pets, but of course, they're not for everyone. They require some special conditions, such as a large plot of land (because they need to run and dig). So, to have a fox, you need to live in a countryside, not in a city.
To anybody that has owned a dog or a cat. Probably because of what we did domesticate effective what we could not domesticate. All our dogs probably chased off anything else. Humans apparently go with what is the easiest especially at our origins.
If fox not friend then why friend shaped??
I want a pet fox
That early human stuff
fox is basically canine running cat software 😂
Not true.
this refers to early humans a lot but only refers to one set of people that have tried to tame them now . i see no reason why they cant be tamed
Some people have pet foxes. It’s on TH-cam. Look into it. You just can’t let them piss inside.
Wyatt Russell you are taking about saveafox and no they aren’t domesticated; they are under their protection since they were rescued but still need special care to suit their wildness and you can’t trust their nature either
Don't forget to reinforce your floors and walls with steel,hope you have a lot of money and land when you tire of the damage,unpredictable behaviour,often dumped euthanized, or big outdoor cage reinforced,where they go crazy and depressed,high maintenance both financially and welfare,the novelty soon wears of,and dont forget the ear plugs when mating season comes along drive you crazy and depressed,not a good idea.
@@trisha1427 I’m currently overlooking hundreds of pet foxes. Do you recommend any DIY steel repair videos, Hemingway?
@@trisha1427 I have a fox and she's wonderful. Usues her tray, we go for walks, I have land so she also has an enclosure but she lives in the house. You don't know what you're talking about unless you have one
I used to have a pet fox
Yes we do.
The main reason that cats were domesticated instead of foxes is luck more than anything in my opinion
Except we do have pet foxes
hi. im a fox expert specialised on red foxes. i study them since 15 years. and yes they hunt solitary but they are devinitly NOT solitary. they are extreemly social animals with mostly monogamous partners they stay together for lifetime and they have extrem strong family bounds. od they are poligamous but NEVER solitary. and when you know how it is possible every fox to tame, even wild foxes, but to be fair, by wild foxes its extremly difficult and needs a lot of time. and its not good. wild foxes must stay wild. but foxes can bound extremly strong, even to humans, and they are absolutley faithful.
basically science said hey foxes um ... why tho?
I mean we can, but they just have to be domesticated
There is pet fox
domesticated silver fox for life
To answer that question, just watch The fox and the child movie.
We cannot domesticate foxes, just because nobody knows what does the fox say.
We do.
They are all in Rusia. They don't domesticate as well as wolves/dogs because they are NOT pack animals like wolves and dogs.
Not true.
Foxes also form family groups. And pack is extended family/family group (or even unrelated individuals, anyone can join a pack).
On the other side, pack theory is disproven for decades. In part, by the same researches who originally founded it. Unfortunately, based on wrong observations/wrong interpretation of those observations.
How about Finnegan Fox
no you are wrong sir, we didn't tame cats, they tamed us!!
Truth
If you really, REALLY, would like to know what it would be like to raise and keep an undomesticated, wild fox in your house as a pet, there is a book you have got to read. To Catch a Fox, aptly relays the story in the most humorous and informative terms you can possibly imagine. The book is available on Amazon.
I know foxes cannot be domesticated or tamed it but befriend with it
Foxes can be domesticated. Just gonna be a long time
I need a fox
Same they look cute asf
@@arkyg4022 Get one then,you'll be soreee, It's the poor fox I'm worried about just don't dump or euthanized,when your tearing your hair out depressed and can't sleep and so poor,forget it.
@@trisha1427 yea
Have fun when it bites your fingers off because you try to discipline it like a dog
What?
I love foxes🦊🦊🤗
Humans were able to hit a critical mass of semi-domesticated wolves that were just tame enough to keep running the experiment long enough to get dogs.
The critical mass of Domestic Silver Foxes only happened in the late Soviet era.
Nothing more magical than that. There is no modern technology required to run the experiment. You could do it using only technology that is pretty ancient. Writing helps but isn't required. You need some way of creating a "Pen" to hold the still-too-crazy non-domesticated animals for generations 1-6. Wash Rinse Repeat.
Not true
Foxes are cute and piss on EVERYTHING and the urine is foul smelling
We dont have large house with garden thats why and its not allowed by law in germany hmm
Im surprise to know that they are not dangerous to human at all
Why are you surprised? They are small, not much bigger than cats, and very timid.
Honesty was given to dogs and cleverness to foxes... And when we look for friends we look for honesty ..not..
I think the fox are a good snatchers thats why people dont have pet fox
Um foxes are pets-- o.o
"because foxes are wild animals they don't make good domestic pets". Then domesticate them. Is that not what we did for thousands of years with wolves? RSPCA is dumb.
Many animals were often kept as pets, domestication was a rare, extreme version of pet ownership.
The keeping of wild animals has slowly been made illegal and has fallen out of favor through various means
That's the point though. A domesticated animal genetically / instinctively doesn't mind being kept around humans.
While taming is "brain washing" an individual wild animal.
dogs are not wolves bred to be tame. dogs evolved from wolves around man and his rubbish / waste. The wolves willing to come close to tribes - the "tamest" evolved into dogs.
Why don’t we have pet wolves or pet coyotes either?
Because they will kill you and eat you
@@blakegebauer76 I was being sarcastic dogs can too by the way.
@@ryancentnarowicz its not that they cant, they wont
I get pet
Wher are pet foxes 🦊 exaxtly
😍
But rabies and other diseases they only get in wild sone have actuall house fox but you need large garden house etc no Hunters near and a zoo treat the foxes aswell better than the harsh wild
This is inaccurate. A lot of common dog breeds (such as the pomeranian and many Spitz breeds) are genetically related fo foxes and not wolves. We did domesticate the fox.
Proof?
Search youtube pet fox, boom theres proof idiot
@@matian178 i meant proof how foxes are genetically related to common dog breeds
Okay
@@matian178 These videos you've seen are foxes that live outside in cages,may look as though they live inside,they destroy everything in a house including digging through floors to the foundations,dig through walls,unpredictable,cant be house trained,very pungent smell,erratic and wake the dead at mating time and yearn to be free.bad idea.
Foxes might be cute but they are killers just like coyotes they are cute but deadly
Only if you are the size of a mouse. They are carnivores, their food isn't going to jump into their mouths, so they have to kill it, so what?
Just keep domesticating those russian Foxes for a few more centuries.
Pet Foxes Are Legal in some states!
yay!
AND WOULD HAVE MORE PROF THAN CONS! 🦊💟
Love Bodin it’s pro not prof
Yes they are cute, but i wouldn’t suggest adopting one now, maybe in 20 years
20 years is probably before I’m moving out.
Btw I’m 7 years old
Foxes are too intelligent to be tamed
An intelligent animal is more likley to be tamed some exaples are crows,cats,parrots,dogs,and even pigs and maybe raccons
Wanna know why? Because us humans use them for fur farms, leading to their tails to get cut off, leading to their tails being shoved onto pieces of metal, furthermore making the butt plug, *THE WORST DEVICE EVER MADE!* Like, imagine being a fox, dying, and your tail being used as a s*xual toy that gets shoved up your *ss. This is why Kitsunes haven't returned to us, because they hate what they've done to their sealed comrades.
Uhhhhhhhhhhh ok…
@@alexmaurice4274 That was a long time ago when I made that.
@@presidentraiden9203 i dont belive somebody would do that. how much of a piece of sh*t would u have to be to kill anything
@Indrabahadur Singh yes
gogod conent