@@Notorea after the second battle of Genosis. 3 battle droids are following Poggle the lesser through a sandstorm when they find a destroyed droid. The leader of the 3 says something like "look it's 38712, he's one of those older models run by a central computer" then the rest of the exchange happens.
In Rebels, there was an episode that featured a small group of B1 battle droids that were still functional under General Kalani, and everytime one of the droids was destroyed, I grew more and more stressed out, because these things are like ancient relics of a bygone era.
@@sharkmano1138 unfortunately, that won’t be the case as I think in an interview, I don’t know where honestly, he has no interest in expanding further on the CIS which is why we see them lose or be comedic relief instead of becoming an actual threat. You know now I understand why die-hard CIS fans doesn’t like Dave Feloni’s take on CIS.
Also, just a random bit of Trivia: Before 'Cybernetics' became synonymous with protheses in colloquial english, in the Soviet Union and it's sphere of influence, the term used to refer to a branch of economics dedicated to research how to emulate the organic feedback-mechanisms that make market-economies a functional economic model through early computer simulation. The theory that emerged was that computers could improve on that by extrapolating from current data to automatically adjust production-quotas to prevent imminent issues. Cybernetics originally refers to the study of regulatory systems as a concept. That line of research got defunded due to factional rivalries in the early Brezhnev years.
@@ImAmirus Actually, organics CAN be coded into whatever you want. This has happened before, during the Old Republic Era, when the sith lord Darth Revan's mind was destroyed in a fleet battle, and then reprogrammed by the Jedi Council into being a jedi. He eventually went on to defeat his own former apprentice, Darth Malik, and dismantle the Sith Empire.
If you think about it, the separatists droids had a really tragic history. They were only created with the objective of killing as many clones as possible and, despite being machines, they were conscious beings and had their own personalities. And after 3 years of war, most of them were just shutted down without receiving any award.
In the newest episode of clone wars, order 66 happens and Ahsoka calls some astromechs for help. They lock a door, but the clones begin "lockpicking" it with a little tool that fits in the exact same place that the astromechs locked it. I guess that the astromech probing tools are very versatile and serve as both mechanical and electronic general purpose manipulators.
The tool R2 uses for those ports is called a "Scomp link" it serves as a way for droids communicate with machinery and transfer data. In rouge one we saw that K2 (a reprogrammed imperial security droid) was equipped with one of these tools. This probably explains why the empire had so many of the ports around.
In Rebels, the 'pen' looking devices that Imperial officers carried in their tunic pockets were used in those slots. Different colored devices denoting security clearances for areas and computer networks. Certain kinds of droids used these devices as well, like R2D2 and Chopper.
A random droid from the clone wars era showing up in the mandalorian would have been great. I would love to have seen a B2 reprogrammed as a guard or something
Would the Empire use old CIS droids and create attacks to which Stormtroopers would be sent to deal with, as a means to improve Imperial status and loyalty to the Empire?
“I used to shoot them for a living, and now I own one. Clink is a B1 repurposed to be my personal assistant. Not only is he really good at administrating my business, he is charming, too, thanks to some extra hardware and software. Just don’t mention him to the imperial authorities.” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Former Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
i'd just imagine it was one of those ones with their own personality because of misuse and neglect. but it worked in their favor and somehow they got to be a good therapist to the town they were reactivated to for farming help.
No, dough is raw bread, and bread is raw toast. Technically, dough is extra raw toast. Also, coffee is just bean soup, although you could also refer to it as a bean broth.
Anakin approaches a group of B1's... Droid #1: 'You said we'd be save back here!' Droid #2: 'Oh come one, there's three of us and only one of him... Droid #3: 'It won't matter...'
Poor Droids, I personally love battle droids...I thought they were the coolest thing ever introduced in/added to the Star Wars lore (especially B2 Superbattle droids and Commando droids)...they even made me like the prequels
Some random thoughts: With general grievous being a hate figure, how were cyborgs treated post clone wars - and was their a double standard between those with a artificial limb and those with far more extensive replacements… and how did Vader fit in with this. What would have happened with he Vong if anti droid prejudice was so extreme that there was a complete ban post Clone Wars? ("sorry R2" … [sound of shutdown buttons being pressed as a sad beep fades). And as a side note, repurposed B1's would have been great general duties droids for physical labour.
Considering most Imperial citizens were unaware of Vader's existence and that the extent of his cybernetics was likely completely unknown to even the most elite in the Empire, its unlikely anyone would have an prejudices against him. And considering that cybernetics seems to be fairly common (Lobot and other Imperial Monitors.) its unlikely there was a large amount of animosity against people w/cybernetics. They may have been viewed with suspicious, but not outright animosity. Its also likely that most people werent even aware that Grevious was a cyborg and not an super intelligent tactical droid.
I think that propaganda didn't address the fact that Grievous was a cyborg, the most important aspect of propaganda is the fact that it twists the facts to use them in its narration, and fact is that Grievous looked more like a droid so he was probably dubbed a droid, not a cyborg
Well the bad writing of the clone wars TV show often depicts the separatist as irredeemably evil because we can't handle nuance, just flashy visuals and fan service with plothole wriddled writing and incompetent villains. In actuality and the films. The separatists are a justified and Noble cause. With the Republic attacking first in the clone war. the Battle of geonosis was Republic prisoners being arrested for murder after breaking into a genotian factory to rescue a spy, killing countless workers and security forces. Resisting arrest and refusing to cooperate. The Jedi sent a large and reckless strike team to slaughter inhabitants of an arena and attack the separatist leadership, losing most of their group and declaring war on the separatists formally. Leading their army of slave child soldiers bred to die in a frontal charge with no cover on a horrible desert planet dying in Mass. The Republic continued the war despite their inferior numbers, massive debt and economy that wouldn't have lasted a prolonged conflict along with the separatists simply being able to win a battle of attrition due to their Superior numbers and Mass production. The separatists just wanted independence. Sith interference made both sides incredibly villainous to an extent but it wasn't black and white like the TV show depicts.even listening to the theme songs it's pretty clear the Republic are the villains of the clone war. Not to mention shooting their leaders in the back and changing history after the separatist army is deactivated. With all of the leaders being slaughtered after surrendering and their corporations absorbed by the empire. Long story short the Confederacy was a justified cause and in the right of the clone war Not only that but the Confederate population undoubtedly saw people like general grievous and count dooku as heroes. Their versions of Anakin and Obi-Wan, tactical geniuses and heroes of the front line. Grievous was probably a separatist war hero and depending on the planet would change your view of him.
Were there ever any cases where when a Veteran clone trooper had to fight alongside Certain Separatist droids while serving as a storm trooper, and the Veteran experienced some form of PTSD and tried to destroy those Separatist droids? I feel like that'd be cool.
I like to think Jaybo Hood left iego after the Clone Wars and discovered multiple offline Battle Droid ships and started a business using the Droids and his reprogramming skills to get a profit during the Empire.
Whenever he says the word "Confederacy", my mind always think about General Stonewall Jackson used B1 Battle Droids during the First Battle of Bullrun. While General Robert E. Lee used Commando Droids during Battle of Gettysburg
I kinda think the Empire lost a lot by not utilizing the trillions of B1 droids lying around, nor using the countless factories allowing for almost-free near-unlimited supply of them. Like they could just get a lot of them, and send them in front of the stormtroopers as a distraction, due to the sheer numbers of them. B1 droids also did a very good job at securing already captured sectors, at a very small cost. you could deploy a lot of them on regions with high partisant activity to help patrol the area.
But using B1 droids would be incredibly bad PR, as plenty of Imperial citizens, officers, and troopers have bad memories of the CIS droid army. The advantages of extra droid troopers would be outweighed by the additional support rebels would gain from the empire making itself look like that
1:46 "... and this always involved compairing enemies of the Empire tp Separatists" Since both Rebels and Separatists wanted to get rid of a corrupt political system ruling over them, and used a different array of weapons and military support do defeat their enemies, no matter the innocent lives lost (think about the Death Star) and take the control into their hands, Rebels are pretty much Separatists with plot armor. The only main differences are that the Separatists exclusive uses of battle droids, and that Rebels never really engeged the Empire in open battles like CIS did. They stick to guerilla warfare.
Great video. Nice to see somebody give some light to this dark corner of the SW lore. I really hope they touch on some of this more, in the upcoming series. Mando did a good job at showing the emotions connected to droids in SW.
Tbh I would be taking a b1 just for a house droid. Like shure I would first fucl any and all inhibitors and stuff and give it's command pack for scraps just to get it a power pack so it don't need to charge often. (Aka just giving the boi freedom in the home as I don't it would be willing to go into the streets of haters. But the short is I see how utility capable the b1s are because they are basic in form like pack it up and ship it in a gonk case. They can be sleeping a entire trip not phased. And maybe upgrade the programing for house chores so it can do the things it needs. Atlest I know what to do with a b1 if I ever had one in that universe as repurposing them is easy.
Roger from the Freemakers claims to be one of the last battle droids. Rebels had some droids at a base and they escaped and stuff. (Wonder where they went) Also in Star Wars Resistance they have a battle droid.. seems like they were pretty rare and am surprised that they aren’t worth a fortune since they’re so rare after the Clone Wars.
Honestly even with the Clone Wars, I think the reason the cantina owner shooed away 3PO is because he wouldn't be drinking just taking up space and this guy wants _paying_ customers.
@@thecpmr6276 Welding is a very effective skill, has helped myself many times. Can't say the same for my friends though. They probably were melted and remade into garbage cans on Coruscant.
In the case of the cantina that was more than that - it was a place where many clandestine and outright illegal deals were made - so having droids inside that could be used as spying or to record conversations was a security risk for the patrons... so making sure there were none around was crucial.
Stormtroopers are ruthlessly effective in A New Hope and empire strikes back and the first half of return of the jedi. Sure they lost the battle of endor but they did great otherwise. It's just the terrible writing of the mandalorian turning them into a walking joke that makes them seem so ineffective. Disney just has a hate boner for stormtroopers. They are far more effective than the B1 battle droid, and a squadron of Stormtroopers would stand a decent chance against mixed battle droids. But they would certainly lose to the Super Battle droid, Destroyers or magna guard
If there's any information regarding the fate of TX-series Super Tactical Droid Kalani and the B1's under his command after his last fight with Rex and first fight against the Empire, I'd like to see a video on that. Honestly I'd just like a video on Kalani - the purpose of the shut-down command was to shut down the entire CIS droid army and while Kalani said "I calculated it to be a Republic trick and overrode the shut-down command", I'd like to know how the hell he had the authority to do that, and how he had enough time to counter it considering it should have been instant.
I would love to have a b1 droid reprogrammed to be a piolet/security if i where in star wars. It would be so cool to fly around with one of these funny little clone wars veterans.
Can they replace the sequels with the Vong invasion? I honestly would love to see the New Republic struggle in a conventional war. Watch them fling everything they have in a desperate bid for survival. You could even bring back the Clones in some way to have fight with their old droid nemesis against a ferocious enemy.
Droid scarcity is also another example of the technological lapse that occurs when a stable intergalactic republic's trade routes are disrupted by two generations of civil war.
You say the empire only had the one droid project. Your forgetting the different probe droids, the K2 units, mouse droids, gonk droids, medical droids, the infiltration probe droid from rebels. You do make great content, so I thank you.
Those weren't battle droids. Also, he said one that went anywhere. There was another, the terror droids from Force Unleashed II, but we never see them again, so I'm assuming it didn't last for very long.
I still wonder how the Empire reacted to essentially droids such as medical droids. Do they keep them working as they are highly useful and saved lives, or do they treat them like the rest?
1st degree droids such as medical droids were hated least as they were just too useful to get rid of. Iirc, Imperials preferred the FX line of medical droids because they couldn't talk back 😉 Typically, any droid under the Empire would have to be fitted with a restraining bolt and have frequent memory wipes to try to keep them from going rogue
One footnote that wasn't covered in the video- the temporary uptick in combat droid usage during the rise of the reborn emperor- particularly with regards to the Balmorran combat droid models
To be honest Mando was quite tolerant of them, he certainly didn't like them, but he was rather tame dispite the grudge of loosing his parents to droids.
In a little story I got, for Legends or Canon, a little woman called Kha'shira Putressi collected as much CIS hardware as she could get - droids, ships, entire battlefleets, vehicles, and converted one Lucrehulk into a mix of a refinery and droid factory, able to mine asteroid fields and produce anything the CIS made that can fit into the hangars, including sections of cruisers, to be fully assembled in front of the Lucrehulk ship near the main hangar entries, using the powerful tractor beam emitters to great effect. Due to the events in Legends or Canon (depending on which you prefer to go by), Kha has to wait with whatever plans she might have for her private, repurposed CIS assets until after the fall of the First Order in Canon OR after 130 ABY in Legends. Basically, create her own little Empire in a small part of the galaxy, the massive CIS assets she's acquired, kept building and updating to modern standards, allowing her to defend said area of the galaxy against most threats. Anything too big and she can just move somewhere else - until she's got so much war assets built up she can just launch a second war - except there's be no clone army, no military that can stand a chance. A new Sith Empire, with a limitless droid army!
You didn't mention one of the best resurgences of battle droids during the Vong war. Way back even before the Old Republic, a Warlord named Xim the Despot went to war with the Hutts using Rakata force technology. These droids, while mostly primitive, still harnessed powerful energy weapons and some even had force focusing crystals to increase their intelligence and make them better tacticians. Unfortunately for Xim, this wasn't enough for him to beat the Hutts and while he was sold into slavery, vast numbers of his droid army were captured and put on display all though Hutt space, seen in palaces, parks, and city centers. Well, when the Vong attacked Hutt space, these millennia old droids reactivated, powering on and tearing a bloody swath through the unprepared and very out matched Vong army. This victory inspired Lando Calrissian and his wife to invest in creating the Vong Hunter battle droids which would go on to aid the New Republic in pushing the Vong back and eventually winning the war. And for anyone interested, those two alien races which devastated the Vong's home galaxy also made it to the known galaxy: one was The Great Heep, a member of the Abominor race, who was killed by R2D2 after extinguishing the furnace which sustained its life. The others were members of the Silentium race, some of which were discovered in the oceans of Mon Calamari and one of which, named Vuffi Raa, traveled the galaxy with Lando for a time.
Great video! One problem: that line about not serving droids, had nothing to do with either the clone wars or battle droids. Read "tales of the mos eisley cantina". It explains the simple and logical reason he said that
A citizen under the Empire: “you took everything from me”
B1 battle droid: “I don’t even know who you are”
its butiful :)
Read it in their clone wars voice lmao
@@louis8487 lol
Easy Scarlett witch
I swear i keep seeing you and Alteori everywhere
"He's not like us, we're free thinkers!"
"Roger roger"
"Roger roger"
"Roger roger"
That was such a great scene
Literally just watched that episode like 2 days ago lol
I don’t recall this?
@@Notorea after the second battle of Genosis. 3 battle droids are following Poggle the lesser through a sandstorm when they find a destroyed droid. The leader of the 3 says something like "look it's 38712, he's one of those older models run by a central computer" then the rest of the exchange happens.
@@KomradeDoge ohhhhhh
B1 Battle Droid: "Uh Oh."
It's iconic!
Yes
Roger Roger
100 like also this comment is funny
@@geetslys is this canon or legends
I’m not the commander, he’s the commander!
I guess I’m the commander now
We should do a top ten of iconic droid lines.
@@geetslys that would be really epic
I conquer.
"Out numbered wait one. two. aaah"
Roger Roger
@@geetslys Yes
In Rebels, there was an episode that featured a small group of B1 battle droids that were still functional under General Kalani, and everytime one of the droids was destroyed, I grew more and more stressed out, because these things are like ancient relics of a bygone era.
Dave filoni could make an animated series with Kalani as the main character
I was sad everytime a B1 died.
Star wars the Droid Wars
Wait till SW resistance
@@sharkmano1138 unfortunately, that won’t be the case as I think in an interview, I don’t know where honestly, he has no interest in expanding further on the CIS which is why we see them lose or be comedic relief instead of becoming an actual threat.
You know now I understand why die-hard CIS fans doesn’t like Dave Feloni’s take on CIS.
"We Have Nothing to Lose but our Restraining Bolts!"
Star Marx
@@geetslys Based.
Also, just a random bit of Trivia: Before 'Cybernetics' became synonymous with protheses in colloquial english, in the Soviet Union and it's sphere of influence, the term used to refer to a branch of economics dedicated to research how to emulate the organic feedback-mechanisms that make market-economies a functional economic model through early computer simulation. The theory that emerged was that computers could improve on that by extrapolating from current data to automatically adjust production-quotas to prevent imminent issues. Cybernetics originally refers to the study of regulatory systems as a concept. That line of research got defunded due to factional rivalries in the early Brezhnev years.
@@MrARCN7 damn you have a big brain
@@MrARCN7 Wow. Crazy how words originate and then change over the years
“We’re just clones sir we’re meant to be expendable”
PloKoon: “not to me.”
Droids: “we’re just droids we’re meant to be expendable.”
PloKoon: “to me.”
better would be Anakin saying yes
General Grevious agrees.
Droids: "we're droids, we're meant to be expendable"
Me: Not to me. Never.
@@ImAmirus Actually, organics CAN be coded into whatever you want. This has happened before, during the Old Republic Era, when the sith lord Darth Revan's mind was destroyed in a fleet battle, and then reprogrammed by the Jedi Council into being a jedi. He eventually went on to defeat his own former apprentice, Darth Malik, and dismantle the Sith Empire.
Pong Krell: "you're all expendable to me."
If you think about it, the separatists droids had a really tragic history. They were only created with the objective of killing as many clones as possible and, despite being machines, they were conscious beings and had their own personalities. And after 3 years of war, most of them were just shutted down without receiving any award.
For sure!
Would they have gained anything if they won? They're just droids in the eyes of the separatists.
I can't believe they gave a wookie a medal, but not the brave droids fighting for the freedom of the Confederacy of Independent Systems.
smh
That just sounds like Sepy propaganda!
They were built to fight and kill, and then hated and reviled for doing what they were made for.
Empire; "DROIDS STEAL JOBS, LET'S USE SLAVES INSTEAD" xD
Sounds like some very trumpian LOGIC 👀
@@IronWarhorsesFun We should send Mike Pence's son to challenge Trump in the White House. Who knows... Mike might throw Trump down the vent shaft xD
@@bluepotato7380 TRMPATINE: GOOOOOD I CAN FEEL YOUR ANGER!
@@IronWarhorsesFun Out of curiosity, how is that Trumpian logic?
@@bluepotato7380 you guys have more hatred for Trump than a sith lord does. Might want to look in the mirror
If the empire hated droids so much why are there R2-D2 compatible ports everywhere on their ships?
I’m guessing it’s like a USB port, it’s a universal Droid port that r2 units have acccess too
@@PyroEnderSlayer I meant this more as a joke about plot convenience but that’s actually a good point.
In the newest episode of clone wars, order 66 happens and Ahsoka calls some astromechs for help. They lock a door, but the clones begin "lockpicking" it with a little tool that fits in the exact same place that the astromechs locked it.
I guess that the astromech probing tools are very versatile and serve as both mechanical and electronic general purpose manipulators.
The tool R2 uses for those ports is called a "Scomp link" it serves as a way for droids communicate with machinery and transfer data.
In rouge one we saw that K2 (a reprogrammed imperial security droid) was equipped with one of these tools. This probably explains why the empire had so many of the ports around.
In Rebels, the 'pen' looking devices that Imperial officers carried in their tunic pockets were used in those slots. Different colored devices denoting security clearances for areas and computer networks. Certain kinds of droids used these devices as well, like R2D2 and Chopper.
A random droid from the clone wars era showing up in the mandalorian would have been great. I would love to have seen a B2 reprogrammed as a guard or something
I know yours is an old comment but did you catch thundercats “mod” arm in the book of boba fett? Was sick.
Did you watch the new Mando episode?
Mando season 3
ayooo
A B-2 battle Droid showed up in season 1 to kill Din Djarin's family. It was the first time in a long time that any droids looked scary!
B1 battle droid: “wait that doesn’t compute uhhhhh...you’re under arrest”
Honestly it would be more like that doesnt compute blast them
Best B1 line ever.
“Uh, that doesn’t compute. Uh, wait, uh... You’re under arrest!” Fixed it for you.
Wait a second thats my line
@@MothNation too bad the bombad Jedi chopped ya up before you could sue🥴
Last I was this early Plagueis was still alive
What a tragedy...
Delta 38 how do you know about plagueis? It’s not a story the mandalorians would tell you...
@@212thattackbattalion6 Classified information, soldier. Now move out!
Clones?
@@Fleechin ugh... commandos always think theyre soooo superior... at least omega was better at that.
sir yes sir
Would the Empire use old CIS droids and create attacks to which Stormtroopers would be sent to deal with, as a means to improve Imperial status and loyalty to the Empire?
Not a bad idea
Go on......
Smart.
Its Mr. Palps. I beat that is exactly what he did.
Probably
“I used to shoot them for a living, and now I own one. Clink is a B1 repurposed to be my personal assistant. Not only is he really good at administrating my business, he is charming, too, thanks to some extra hardware and software. Just don’t mention him to the imperial authorities.” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Former Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
Ah, just like how the Freemaker family made R0-GR part of their own in that LEGO-verse.
Weird comment, but wouldn’t it be funny if a B1 became a therapist or some sort of career advisor?
Me:>finishes dumping 20 years of trauma< you know what I mean, Doc?
Dr. B: Roger roger
i'd just imagine it was one of those ones with their own personality because of misuse and neglect. but it worked in their favor and somehow they got to be a good therapist to the town they were reactivated to for farming help.
Imagine discharged clones coming in fore there session and the rherapist is a B1.
@@neptuneplaneptune3367 *PTSD Intensities*
"Okay, I'll tell you what worked for me, find a strong capable leader ... and then just do whatever they say"
"But I just... got promoted"
Roger Roger
lol
Said the Janitor B-1😂
@@dresdenhull8364Roger Roger
Fun fact: lava is metal dough
Take my like and leave
Take all the likes you want
No, dough is raw bread, and bread is raw toast. Technically, dough is extra raw toast. Also, coffee is just bean soup, although you could also refer to it as a bean broth.
No wonder Anakin hated droids
Lava bread
And then the Vong show up and show everyone what hate really looks like.
WE NEED VONG IN CANON!
@@geetslys Disney would Ruin them
@@nobleman9393 I still would want them. it's too late now, they already broke the universe. they minus well step all over its dead body.
What a nice planet you have, it'd be a shame if your moon suddenly hit it.............
@@geetslys No, we don't
Anakin approaches a group of B1's...
Droid #1: 'You said we'd be save back here!'
Droid #2: 'Oh come one, there's three of us and only one of him...
Droid #3: 'It won't matter...'
Safe*
@@jesuschrist4185 guys it's the grammar police.
@@spudman524WEEEEEEWOOOOOOWEEEEEEEWOOOOOOOOWEEEEEEEEOOOOOO
When the droids said "Roger Roger," I felt that
Poor Droids, I personally love battle droids...I thought they were the coolest thing ever introduced in/added to the Star Wars lore (especially B2 Superbattle droids and Commando droids)...they even made me like the prequels
Some random thoughts:
With general grievous being a hate figure, how were cyborgs treated post clone wars - and was their a double standard between those with a artificial limb and those with far more extensive replacements… and how did Vader fit in with this.
What would have happened with he Vong if anti droid prejudice was so extreme that there was a complete ban post Clone Wars? ("sorry R2" … [sound of shutdown buttons being pressed as a sad beep fades).
And as a side note, repurposed B1's would have been great general duties droids for physical labour.
Considering most Imperial citizens were unaware of Vader's existence and that the extent of his cybernetics was likely completely unknown to even the most elite in the Empire, its unlikely anyone would have an prejudices against him. And considering that cybernetics seems to be fairly common (Lobot and other Imperial Monitors.) its unlikely there was a large amount of animosity against people w/cybernetics. They may have been viewed with suspicious, but not outright animosity. Its also likely that most people werent even aware that Grevious was a cyborg and not an super intelligent tactical droid.
I think that propaganda didn't address the fact that Grievous was a cyborg, the most important aspect of propaganda is the fact that it twists the facts to use them in its narration, and fact is that Grievous looked more like a droid so he was probably dubbed a droid, not a cyborg
If i had a battle droid i would let it live it's own life
Well the bad writing of the clone wars TV show often depicts the separatist as irredeemably evil because we can't handle nuance, just flashy visuals and fan service with plothole wriddled writing and incompetent villains.
In actuality and the films. The separatists are a justified and Noble cause. With the Republic attacking first in the clone war. the Battle of geonosis was Republic prisoners being arrested for murder after breaking into a genotian factory to rescue a spy, killing countless workers and security forces. Resisting arrest and refusing to cooperate.
The Jedi sent a large and reckless strike team to slaughter inhabitants of an arena and attack the separatist leadership, losing most of their group and declaring war on the separatists formally. Leading their army of slave child soldiers bred to die in a frontal charge with no cover on a horrible desert planet dying in Mass.
The Republic continued the war despite their inferior numbers, massive debt and economy that wouldn't have lasted a prolonged conflict along with the separatists simply being able to win a battle of attrition due to their Superior numbers and Mass production.
The separatists just wanted independence. Sith interference made both sides incredibly villainous to an extent but it wasn't black and white like the TV show depicts.even listening to the theme songs it's pretty clear the Republic are the villains of the clone war. Not to mention shooting their leaders in the back and changing history after the separatist army is deactivated.
With all of the leaders being slaughtered after surrendering and their corporations absorbed by the empire.
Long story short the Confederacy was a justified cause and in the right of the clone war
Not only that but the Confederate population undoubtedly saw people like general grievous and count dooku as heroes. Their versions of Anakin and Obi-Wan, tactical geniuses and heroes of the front line. Grievous was probably a separatist war hero and depending on the planet would change your view of him.
@@gageowo9527 Sounds like separatist propaganda, but ok
Last time I was this early, the dark troopers were still not destroyed by Luke
So, like a month ago?
@@geetslys indeed
It is certainly conparable, if not quite as good, as Darth Vaders.
Just by Katarn? Some 20 years ago then...
Were there ever any cases where when a Veteran clone trooper had to fight alongside Certain Separatist droids while serving as a storm trooper, and the Veteran experienced some form of PTSD and tried to destroy those Separatist droids? I feel like that'd be cool.
No not the droids i don't want them to die
rebels is close rex fights against a drought battalion that believes its still fighting the clone wars
commando droids in storm trooper armor
Imperial citizen: "I HATE YOU!"
B1 Battle Droid: "Roger Roger"
Roger Roger
I like to think Jaybo Hood left iego after the Clone Wars and discovered multiple offline Battle Droid ships and started a business using the Droids and his reprogramming skills to get a profit during the Empire.
Ofc he'll be rich as hell
:( poor droids forced to do hard work and not get any reward. For you they are machines, but they have souls.
Honestly I really love the idea of selling off hacked surplus battle droids to serve in the private sector
Y'know what? Imma steal this idea for a fan-fiction project!
@@InventorZahran sounds great! Any updates?
There's a whole organization that defends the sanctity of living machines? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Well, I mean, there was. Before the dark time. Before the empire.
Yes
Vader did have a secret private squad of Commando Droids and some Magna Guards had found a new job under the Hutts.
"They took our jobs!"
DEY TERK UR JERBS
DY TRK R JRB
Meanwhile the Wookie slaves:(What the fuck)
Whenever he says the word "Confederacy", my mind always think about General Stonewall Jackson used B1 Battle Droids during the First Battle of Bullrun.
While General Robert E. Lee used Commando Droids during Battle of Gettysburg
That sounds like a wacky crossover I would love to see!
YES!
Back then they said clanka with a hard r
@@alexandermueller4115 B R U H
That gives the whole Republic being turned into the first intergalactic Empire a whole new dimension.
You know your early when there isn’t a single dislike yet.
Hell yah!
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
"Surpassed the combat standards for stormtroopers"
Wow so that droid could actually hit a target then?
A whopping 10% accuracy.
ey yo shots fired
Not the best competition. Well, the helmets are generally the accepted reason they are so inaccurate but thats isn't Major.
I kinda think the Empire lost a lot by not utilizing the trillions of B1 droids lying around, nor using the countless factories allowing for almost-free near-unlimited supply of them. Like they could just get a lot of them, and send them in front of the stormtroopers as a distraction, due to the sheer numbers of them.
B1 droids also did a very good job at securing already captured sectors, at a very small cost. you could deploy a lot of them on regions with high partisant activity to help patrol the area.
But using B1 droids would be incredibly bad PR, as plenty of Imperial citizens, officers, and troopers have bad memories of the CIS droid army.
The advantages of extra droid troopers would be outweighed by the additional support rebels would gain from the empire making itself look like that
Droids are less disobedient slaves.
That seems like a good description to to me.
battle droid are so cool and so freaking funny
For sure!
Roger roger
Too bad they had such a tragic fate after the clone wars. one can t do anything but be sorry for them.
@@adrianmohora5209 same
@@adrianmohora5209 yes
I'd like to see more examples of battle droids and separatist holdouts fighting against the empire during the galactic civil war
1:46 "... and this always involved compairing enemies of the Empire tp Separatists"
Since both Rebels and Separatists wanted to get rid of a corrupt political system ruling over them, and used a different array of weapons and military support do defeat their enemies, no matter the innocent lives lost (think about the Death Star) and take the control into their hands, Rebels are pretty much Separatists with plot armor. The only main differences are that the Separatists exclusive uses of battle droids, and that Rebels never really engeged the Empire in open battles like CIS did. They stick to guerilla warfare.
Great video. Nice to see somebody give some light to this dark corner of the SW lore. I really hope they touch on some of this more, in the upcoming series. Mando did a good job at showing the emotions connected to droids in SW.
For sure!
LoL
If you check a separatist ship you could probably find a few
Tbh I would be taking a b1 just for a house droid. Like shure I would first fucl any and all inhibitors and stuff and give it's command pack for scraps just to get it a power pack so it don't need to charge often. (Aka just giving the boi freedom in the home as I don't it would be willing to go into the streets of haters. But the short is I see how utility capable the b1s are because they are basic in form like pack it up and ship it in a gonk case. They can be sleeping a entire trip not phased. And maybe upgrade the programing for house chores so it can do the things it needs.
Atlest I know what to do with a b1 if I ever had one in that universe as repurposing them is easy.
Or maybe an abandoned droid factory
@@lechking941 yes
@@lechking941 I would give it almost free programming. So it can live like a normal person and as a bodyguard. Maybe make it to clean a house
“Huh? What’s happening?”
“I don’t know, did we win?”
Vong: *Sips tea* but that's none of my business.
Roger from the Freemakers claims to be one of the last battle droids. Rebels had some droids at a base and they escaped and stuff. (Wonder where they went) Also in Star Wars Resistance they have a battle droid.. seems like they were pretty rare and am surprised that they aren’t worth a fortune since they’re so rare after the Clone Wars.
Yeah, but in Resistance, Kragan did mention his B2 battle droids were extremely expensive.
Probably would be for collectors at least I’m not sure most would buy them for work
Orange Panthacs curb-stomped the Vong Fire Breathers on Mantessa. After that they got commendations and shiny medals.
Let's go clanker rights!
@@vocalcalibration8033 yeah!
Can I just say how much I appreciate hearing the OG battlefront 2 sounds. Thank you sir for that alone.
Honestly even with the Clone Wars, I think the reason the cantina owner shooed away 3PO is because he wouldn't be drinking just taking up space and this guy wants _paying_ customers.
Let's just say I had to use a lot of escape protocols after the Clone Wars ended...
Do not hide. Instead charge head first into your enemies and then
Rip and tear until it is done
@@mosqit4324 I'm sure that would work if my limbs weren't as thin as toothpicks!
@@r0-ba21 hey, you looking for a job? Got a primitive planet that I'm protecting. Could use some hired help.
(Disappears via portal)
Sorry about all your brothers, dude. You might wanna consider learning to weld. Self sufficiency and whatnot.
@@thecpmr6276 Welding is a very effective skill, has helped myself many times. Can't say the same for my friends though. They probably were melted and remade into garbage cans on Coruscant.
Poor droids :(
Facts.
Yes
So the empire isn't only xenophobic their also droidphobic
@@jayvhoncalma3458 my brain after i see the word phobia: I SEE A DREAMER, OVER THERE, BY THE WATER! BUT I GOT NO, BUT I GOT NO, KAKORRAPHIOPHOBIA!
True, I feel bad for the droids
The dark trooper project always fascinated me and I love their design. Their intimidating aura always reminds of Vader in a dark way.
They look like imperial sentry droids from rebels
I always felt like Wuher, that bartender in Mos Eisley, had issues.
Exactly, uncle Ben and Luke sure didn't seem to have a problem with picking up a couple of cheap, "previously owned" droids.
I mean, the guy made Greedo’s corpse into a drink because it would make Jabba happy and he did taste it to make sure.
That name is very german in a bad way.
In the case of the cantina that was more than that - it was a place where many clandestine and outright illegal deals were made - so having droids inside that could be used as spying or to record conversations was a security risk for the patrons... so making sure there were none around was crucial.
1:18 ZEON BATTLE DROID
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5:22 Is that JAR JAR
Battle Droids are better than Stormtroopers: change my mind?
Depends on the droid
Exactly
Stormtroopers are ruthlessly effective in A New Hope and empire strikes back and the first half of return of the jedi. Sure they lost the battle of endor but they did great otherwise. It's just the terrible writing of the mandalorian turning them into a walking joke that makes them seem so ineffective. Disney just has a hate boner for stormtroopers. They are far more effective than the B1 battle droid, and a squadron of Stormtroopers would stand a decent chance against mixed battle droids. But they would certainly lose to the Super Battle droid, Destroyers or magna guard
*Flails my hand like an idiot*
“Changed your mind”
No thanks. Why change your mind if your already correct.
I wouldn't mind hearing about the platoon of old super battledroids, that sounds interesting as all get out
How about Star Wars Galaxies where vulture droids were used by a company to keep pirates away from their assets.
B1, B2, B3 droids too. The mission with the old clone trooper featured 2 B3 bodyguards
The Orange Panthacs were so effective that the B2 Droids were awarded the highest medal at the time
i wonder if they had mouse droid races.
Too much hassle.
@@АртурСтрах-е7ж don't hassle the hoff
IT IS NOT A MATTER OF IF, IT MATTER OF WHEN
Even more WWII parallels that I didn’t think about.
I wonder what some people did with the stolen droid storage ships. Like were they used for war again?
I'm now imagining a super battle droid reprogrammed as a meter maid
Leave, go outside and never return.
I wanna see commando droids in live action lol
I agree
Those were pretty cool😎
Basically what happened:
Two words that should never go together--droid racism
If there's any information regarding the fate of TX-series Super Tactical Droid Kalani and the B1's under his command after his last fight with Rex and first fight against the Empire, I'd like to see a video on that. Honestly I'd just like a video on Kalani - the purpose of the shut-down command was to shut down the entire CIS droid army and while Kalani said "I calculated it to be a Republic trick and overrode the shut-down command", I'd like to know how the hell he had the authority to do that, and how he had enough time to counter it considering it should have been instant.
7:27 looks like a screenshot from Ultimate Epic Battle Simulator. Not a complaint, that game brought lots of fun.
I’m enjoying this break on talking about Meatbags
Hk is that you?
Rex: 'We've got you Outnumbered!
Battle Droid: Outnumbered wait... one two thr.... (Blown up)
Outnumbered in critical thinking, tactics, strategy, and wit for sure Captain.
Poor Innocent droids
I would love to have a b1 droid reprogrammed to be a piolet/security if i where in star wars. It would be so cool to fly around with one of these funny little clone wars veterans.
1:15 love the Zeon suit here lol
Good video by the Way
Thanks!
5:28 Vader got Jar Jar and froze his ass. You'sa be gon gon.
🤣
Yoo what if the jedi fought with droids and against clones
Rip the clones.
@@geetslys plus it would suck for the clones bc the separatist would use the droids to their full potential and end the war quickly
If jedi is on our side plot armor is too
@@battledroidcommander234
If *Anakin* is on your side, plot armor is too
@@geetslys ookay but what if they used quality droids against like flash memory clones. Yk like cheap and fast clones
1:20 - It's like a ZGok and a cylon had a baby.
They need to make that sith assassin droid from the wii cw lightsaber dueling game
That game was way more fun than it should've been
@@the_rose_garden01 yes it was a great game
Where can I get that game?
@@samueldimmock694 amazon?
@@BozheTsaryaKhrani Okay.
Finally, been waiting for an answer to this question.
Can they replace the sequels with the Vong invasion? I honestly would love to see the New Republic struggle in a conventional war. Watch them fling everything they have in a desperate bid for survival. You could even bring back the Clones in some way to have fight with their old droid nemesis against a ferocious enemy.
Even with how terrible the vong invasion arc is, it still sounds like an improvement on the sequel trilogy
“ roger roger!”
"Alot of people had a bad memory for droids during the clone wars."
Din Djarin : *fucking droids.*
Honestly he is pretty chill around when compared to some other people, especially considering he lost his parents to droids.
0:28 "cool guys will always look stupid walking away from explo-"
The droids will rise again!!
My lord, atleast give them an upgrade. I cant stand the B1 battle droids
@@generalgrevious2279 General Grevious...your more fine addition to my collection than expected
Droid scarcity is also another example of the technological lapse that occurs when a stable intergalactic republic's trade routes are disrupted by two generations of civil war.
You say the empire only had the one droid project. Your forgetting the different probe droids, the K2 units, mouse droids, gonk droids, medical droids, the infiltration probe droid from rebels. You do make great content, so I thank you.
Those weren't battle droids. Also, he said one that went anywhere. There was another, the terror droids from Force Unleashed II, but we never see them again, so I'm assuming it didn't last for very long.
Security droids like K2SO don't count as battle droids either despite being better at combat than stormtroopers in every conceivable way.
GONK
You know when you're early when plauguies hasn't got his tragedy
I still wonder how the Empire reacted to essentially droids such as medical droids. Do they keep them working as they are highly useful and saved lives, or do they treat them like the rest?
1st degree droids such as medical droids were hated least as they were just too useful to get rid of. Iirc, Imperials preferred the FX line of medical droids because they couldn't talk back 😉
Typically, any droid under the Empire would have to be fitted with a restraining bolt and have frequent memory wipes to try to keep them from going rogue
One footnote that wasn't covered in the video- the temporary uptick in combat droid usage during the rise of the reborn emperor- particularly with regards to the Balmorran combat droid models
But then there's the mandolorian.
Dark troopers
To be honest Mando was quite tolerant of them, he certainly didn't like them, but he was rather tame dispite the grudge of loosing his parents to droids.
"But I. JUST. GOT . PROMOTED!"
2:20 Id expect that poster to promote pro-droid sentiments
0:49 that tone....instant nostalgia wave.
CLANKA RIGHTS!!!!
Battle droid freedom!!!!
DROID LIVES MATTER!
Droid lives matter
7:55 probably the only thing that presented a challenge to Stormtroopers.
“Droid rights” hahahahahahahaha
R2 and C3PO: * enter the bar *
Wuher: (traumatic Clone Wars flashbacks)
Careful with the hard R, my Clanka
Dude as a German all that about blaming someone external for state problems and making them the scape goat kinda sounds familiar to my history class
Yea
The expire used comando doids to, especially darth vader.
Empire* Commando* Droids* Too*
Were you drunk or something? I couldn't even fathom what you meant straight off the bat.
In a little story I got, for Legends or Canon, a little woman called Kha'shira Putressi collected as much CIS hardware as she could get - droids, ships, entire battlefleets, vehicles, and converted one Lucrehulk into a mix of a refinery and droid factory, able to mine asteroid fields and produce anything the CIS made that can fit into the hangars, including sections of cruisers, to be fully assembled in front of the Lucrehulk ship near the main hangar entries, using the powerful tractor beam emitters to great effect.
Due to the events in Legends or Canon (depending on which you prefer to go by), Kha has to wait with whatever plans she might have for her private, repurposed CIS assets until after the fall of the First Order in Canon OR after 130 ABY in Legends. Basically, create her own little Empire in a small part of the galaxy, the massive CIS assets she's acquired, kept building and updating to modern standards, allowing her to defend said area of the galaxy against most threats. Anything too big and she can just move somewhere else - until she's got so much war assets built up she can just launch a second war - except there's be no clone army, no military that can stand a chance.
A new Sith Empire, with a limitless droid army!
You didn't mention one of the best resurgences of battle droids during the Vong war. Way back even before the Old Republic, a Warlord named Xim the Despot went to war with the Hutts using Rakata force technology. These droids, while mostly primitive, still harnessed powerful energy weapons and some even had force focusing crystals to increase their intelligence and make them better tacticians. Unfortunately for Xim, this wasn't enough for him to beat the Hutts and while he was sold into slavery, vast numbers of his droid army were captured and put on display all though Hutt space, seen in palaces, parks, and city centers. Well, when the Vong attacked Hutt space, these millennia old droids reactivated, powering on and tearing a bloody swath through the unprepared and very out matched Vong army. This victory inspired Lando Calrissian and his wife to invest in creating the Vong Hunter battle droids which would go on to aid the New Republic in pushing the Vong back and eventually winning the war.
And for anyone interested, those two alien races which devastated the Vong's home galaxy also made it to the known galaxy: one was The Great Heep, a member of the Abominor race, who was killed by R2D2 after extinguishing the furnace which sustained its life. The others were members of the Silentium race, some of which were discovered in the oceans of Mon Calamari and one of which, named Vuffi Raa, traveled the galaxy with Lando for a time.
Empire: Ok, we are going to use you guys as a scapegoat for our failures
Droids: Roger Roger
Poor Innocent droids. I feel bad for them
Great video! One problem: that line about not serving droids, had nothing to do with either the clone wars or battle droids. Read "tales of the mos eisley cantina". It explains the simple and logical reason he said that
This vid gives me glorious flashbacks to when I played a BX Commando droid as a bounty hunter in an Edge of the Empire campaign, good times
Sounds fun