It's unbelievable how this one individual RUINED the very program that opened so may doors and gave her opportunities every young woman dreams of. Her narcissism unfortunately overshadowed what this once great organization represented. Last years catastrophe was the absolute worst- basically a boring 2 hour interview then a crown is put on the winner's head. So lets send the message to young girls that you shouldn't feel confident in a swimsuit regardless of your size but you'll get a crown after you're hired for a job. Really? Two hours and we couldn't even watch the top 10 perform their talent. I could go on and on but basically the Miss America program has continually changed throughout the years and that's the way it should be, but this is NOT Miss America. More power to anyone or organization who wants to provide scholarships for young women but start your own program. Don't STEAL the Miss America Program. This is a PAGEANT- if a girl doesn't want to wear a swimsuit or gown then she shouldn't enter a PAGEANT. Just apply for the THOUSANDS of scholarships offered in the world. Its as simple as that.
I met Gretchen briefly when she came into the convenience store where I worked in Anoka Minnesota. She had 2 good looking blond brothers. Their parents owned a car dealership in Anoka, and the brothers would always pull up in a TransAm, Camaro or Corvette. This was back in the 1980's when I was in high school. The 2 brothers always had a different girl every week when they came into SuperAmerica. The kids (including Gretchen) would charge their gas and snacks to their parents account. It was always interesting to see what kind of vehicles the brothers would be driving
Hers is most certainly one of my top 5 favorite talents of all talents since I have been watching. She's right up there with Miss Alabama 1980 (competing for Miss America 1981) Paige Phillips, Miss Louisiana 1987 Patricia Brandt, Miss America (MO) 1990 Debbye Turner, and Miss Indiana 1996 Shani Neilson..
Greg Branham, agreed that Gretchen’s talent was great...but shouldn’t this be more than just a talent competition. I can’t imagine what other area Gretchen did well in. The Goldman book that is mentioned says the judges thought her interview was okay but not outstanding...but Colorado’s interview was terrific. I think it boiled down to the fact that they made a mistake in judging on finals night and didn’t count in the preliminary interview scores (as also mentioned in the Goldman book).
I have memories, growing up in Memphis, TN starting in the early 70’s as a family, watching Miss America on TV (only 4 channels then). Each would write down our picks for the finalists. We’d of course want Miss Tennessee to win but Miss AR and Ms Mississippi would also work. In America we have the 2 pageants, Miss USA and Miss Amer. I eventually would compare the two pageants in my head but Miss America seemed to be the “better” pageant. They both were and still are good but that yes Miss America winners were good looking but Miss USA winners, compared to Miss America winners did have an edge as far as “knock out beauty” goes. Then I learned that the Miss America pageant was a scholarship pageant. I’d notice a Miss America finalist was enrolled in medical school. The Miss America pageant was more rounded. It promoted women excelling in all aspects of life. It rewarded women for not just their looks but also reward their ambitions and potential to make contributions ti the world. And hey, can’t not give a shout out to Miss Tennessee Miss, America Kellye Cash! And I can’t not mention the great State of Mississippi and their winners who went on to be crowned our ideal! Ahh wow, such fantastic memories! RIP Mom and Dad.
It's clear from the posts here that the hatred people feel for those who have political views that differ from their own makes them say stupid things. I'm sure Gretchen looks better than any of her critics, but beyond that she is a class lady who never responds to hate with hate. You could learn an awfuul lot from her, but people who think they know everything stopped learning years ago.
Please.... Do your research before making statements like these. She exudes hatred, bullying and narcissism. Once again, SHE ruined the Miss America pageant.
@@bestmoving3533 It took seven years to get this response. Why not just be honest and say, "I hate Gretchen."? I love when people say, "Do your research." It always means, "I know better than you, moron!" So, thanks for the great advice.
The woman WHO tore down Miss America and her crowning moment. We have her and Regina to thank for the demise of Miss America and the rise of Miss USA as the premiere pageant to be part of. Miss America is NOT going to survive much longer IF they are NOT stopped and as a Miss America Local contestant in 1988, I feel sad to see what is happening and pray that Forever Miss America's stop this and restore the gleam to Miss America and get rid of them two once and for all.
Beauty pageants aren’t a thing anymore because they represent the antiquated pressures on women. They objectify women. It’s 2020 and we’ve evolved. Pageants are over, nobody cares but old ladies trying to relive their glory days
@@donfontana8282 I am going to try: Cara Mund-they both disrespected her by NOT allowing her to be the representative of Miss America we know she was, bullying by not allowing her to represent. Now that both are gone, Miss America is returning, but the changes and lack of transparency so the states could prepare their queens to go to the stage. Now there is a new Board and things are changing for the better. Gretchen changed the rules and did NOT tell others until almost too late. Many in the pageant world are NOT willing to take disrespect and bullying. The ladies who walk the stage are lawyers, Police Officers, Medical Examiners, Paralegals, First Responders, and in the Military and use the Scholarships to advance in their careers, and when we see these acts happen, we speak out.
It was 1988 not 1989. Because I was the first one to train Gretchen on the computer in Chicago in the Sears Tower under the direction of her "mentor" BF. She was very gracious and smart and not one for any man to contend with. Very proud of Gretchen.❤
Actually, the auditors forgot to add in the interview score, which was carried over from prelims and that year counted 15%. There was a story about it in TV Guide the next year of Miss America week. But you are right, should have crowned Colorado. They had 2 judging panels that year and the prelim judges were shocked Minnesota won.
George Robbins I remember that TV Guide article too George........wonder if they really 'forgot'........? Maya went on to compete in Miss USA pageant, unfortunately didnt make the semis.
Thanks Rachel. Glad I am not the only one who remembers that. Have always wondered how it affected Maya when she found out about those scores being left out. Such a shame.
I remember that article, and I don't think it said they "forgot." Had that happened, they would have added the scores when they realized the mistake and given the title to the real winner. I believe the article said it was a deliberate decision that Miss America was to be chosen by the final night scores only.
Is it true that she took a year off from college, hired a coach, and practiced over and over again for that year to win the pageant? It seems she was 24 when she graduated from college from her bio. Or maybe that's just an internet fiction?
I can't believe how hateful the comments have become on TH-cam these days. PLEASE people - if you can't manage to say something nice, kindly bless us with your silence.
Who would have thought that this woman became a Fox conservative, Trump supporter ,the person who actually ruined the Miss America pageant. I wished that Maya Walker had won
She was too pretty to win the title, they should've tested her on the intellectual knowledge of geothermal engineering application design synthesis and Egyptian anthropology.
Gretchen did deserve to win. I'm a fellow violinist and though I can't stand her now, she won that crown fair and square. Can any of you play the violin better?!!!
Gretchen looks just like MISS PIGGYand her win was controversial she had been seen having lunch with one of the pageant execs during the pageant and one of the judges later referred to her as MISS PIGGY few yrs later and stated in a magazine article that the only reason she won was because the rules had been changed that year
I do agree that she had talent but when it came down to the interview question which determines the winner she choked she even said to Gary Collins when he was killing time while the judges were trying to break the tie and he was talking to the girls I wish I had answered my question better the pageant was fixed Miss Colorado was robbed
I'm so glad that Gretchen finally resigned as the head of Miss America Organization this month. She was a horrible, spiteful individual. Now I feel more comfortable in restarting my local pageant Miss Binghamton.
Gretchen Carlson was, and still is, a very beautiful woman who fully supports the principles upon which our nation was founded. She has a good head on her shoulders.
Because our nation was totally founded on pretending to be victimized to justify forcing your religion on others and calling gays a "distraction from the real issues"
The African Slave Trade was in progress for nearly 2 centuries by the time of the Declaration of Independence in July 1776. In an age of dictators and monarchs, our Founding Fathers created the concept of human rights which we get not from government, but are birth rights from God, and captioned those rights via the Bill of Rights. America is not perfect, and it was not all-inclusive in the beginning, but this country does have a conscience. It spilled the blood of over 620,000 to rid itself of the original sin called slavery, and whether you agree or not, that certainly counts for something. If America is so evil, why is it that it has accepted more immigrants to it's shores than any other nation in human history?
She is one of the least attractive winners, ever, and I've said that since 1989. I live in Minnesota and couldn't understand the short fireplug with the look on her face that looked like she was going to be sick, winning.
Miss Colorado was robbed, what the hell are you talking about. The crowd knew it! I looked at this just because she isn't a beautiful woman, and I wanted to see if she was when she was younger, ad fuck if she doesn't look the same!
I'm all for Gretchen carlson. She is smart and accomplished. I am sorry that there ay not be swimsuits in the next one. Doing so will limit the veiwers. i guess tht'a not important.
The rumor has always been that alcoholic Gary Collins read the winners’ names backwards. In other words, Gretchen should have been 4th runner up. Don’t know why they didn’t stir him, maybe they were too embarrassed.
If they ever do a biopic about Miss Piggy they should cast Gretchen to play her she looks just like her no I take that back Miss Piggy is prettier than Gretchen
I read a book written by one of the Preliminary judges. He referred to Gretchen Carlson as “Miss Piggy”. She obviously had a nose job with her winnings.
people ALWAYS forget that back then, not only do we have NO idea how well they impressed in the prelim interviews (basically, its a job interview- and those scores nor the tapes of each contestants interview are released) but also that back then talent counted 50%. And its also luck of the draw. Minnesota WON her talent prelim (Colorado however did NOT win any prelim) and I have only seen ONE finalist perform a violin talent near to how well Gretchen did that piece by Sarazat, and it was Miss Pa Susan Spafford in the 99 pageant which Heather French won as Miss America 2000. AND by winning a prelim, thats very likely a greater composite score carried over from prelims that is then added to what is done the night of finals. I am ALWAYS ALWAYS hearing and reading about who was robbed and this and that, but everyone keeps forgetting just how important the prelim interview is in determining who is more than likely going to win the whole thing. Also- back then, evening gown was a prelim and not until the early 2000's was there even any type or evening gown prelim award. So we have no idea how the judges viewed Maya in HER prelim interview, or evening gown. Its unfair, but them's the rules. Its a job interview folks.
and check out Getchen's talent. unfathomable. flawless. its available on here somewhere on youtube. Maya had a GREAT talent, even doing some great scat in her "night and day" performance, and a great evening gown answer final night (IMO). it came down to a prelim win in talent and us never knowing how well Maya or gretchen did in interview.
Louisiana won both swinsuit and talent prelims and if anyone got robbed it was her... but it happened before with Patricia Brant. It is a job interview ad certainly Gretchen went on to do amazing things for women.
@@BamaFan-vc4gn so, NO!! FALSE! Patricia Brandt, the year before this, was NOT a double prelim winner. She DID win talent on Wednesday, the first day of prelims her year in the group she was assigned. She did NOT win swimsuit prelim. That same prelim group she belonged to, I believe had the swimsuit prelim go to Ms South Carolina Nancy Humphries, now known as Nancy O'dell. The 3 prelim.swim suit winners at Patricia's pageant year were Ms Georgia, Kelly Jerles, Nancy Humphries and then the eventual Miss America that year, Michigan's Kaye Lani Raye Rafko.
Can’t stand her. Never thought she was pretty How did she ever win And so many miss Americas say she is a bully Kudos for Cara Mund for calling her out
Her talent was not exceptional. I think she had a fake flower in her hair that kept slipping .. we were all about the flower, not what she was strumming. I wouldn’t be so rude, but this woman deserves it.
And the smartest. Any time you jump from the Bachelor's Program at Stanford right to Ph.D. Doctorate Program at Oxford, you have something going on between the ears.
If I remember her talent was exceptional!!!
My wife gretchen won the beauty pageant I'm so happy for her.
Yuck
You
Mean
Miss ugly 😮
Why do I have the feeling you're trolling us?
I haven't seen these Miss America contests since I taped them off tv myself which no longer exist unfortunately.
It's unbelievable how this one individual RUINED the very program that opened so may doors and gave her opportunities every young woman dreams of.
Her narcissism unfortunately overshadowed what this once great organization represented. Last years catastrophe was the absolute worst- basically a boring 2 hour interview then a crown is put on the winner's head.
So lets send the message to young girls that you shouldn't feel confident in a swimsuit regardless of your size but you'll get a crown after you're hired for a job. Really? Two hours and we couldn't even watch the top 10 perform their talent. I could go on and on but basically the Miss America program has continually changed throughout the years and that's the way it should be, but this is NOT Miss America. More power to anyone or organization who wants to provide scholarships for young women but start your own program. Don't STEAL the Miss America Program. This is a PAGEANT- if a girl doesn't want to wear a swimsuit or gown then she shouldn't enter a PAGEANT. Just apply for the THOUSANDS of scholarships offered in the world. Its as simple as that.
I agree. Gretchen dismanteled the very program that allowed her to rise to her position.
I met Gretchen briefly when she came into the convenience store where I worked in Anoka Minnesota. She had 2 good looking blond brothers. Their parents owned a car dealership in Anoka, and the brothers would always pull up in a TransAm, Camaro or Corvette. This was back in the 1980's when I was in high school. The 2 brothers always had a different girl every week when they came into SuperAmerica. The kids (including Gretchen) would charge their gas and snacks to their parents account. It was always interesting to see what kind of vehicles the brothers would be driving
Were you lucky enough to bed one of the brothers?
@@Lommy9999 God no. They were way out of my league, plus they thought they were better than everyone else
@@tracyseymour6059 So I guess you really dodged a bullet there
You say
Gretchen
Had 2 handsome brother's
What happened to
Miss ugly
@@MikeScott-ez7iw I think she was on Fox News
Her performance with the violin was incredible. True talent and obviously worked incredibly hard.
wow. They had all great hair and dresses. What a year 1989. Classic.
I was there when she won and no one was surprised in the audience. Her talent was at a level rarely seen in pageants.
Hers is most certainly one of my top 5 favorite talents of all talents since I have been watching. She's right up there with Miss Alabama 1980 (competing for Miss America 1981) Paige Phillips, Miss Louisiana 1987 Patricia Brandt, Miss America (MO) 1990 Debbye Turner, and Miss Indiana 1996 Shani Neilson..
And look how she ended up - a bullshit artist on Faux News.
Greg Branham, agreed that Gretchen’s talent was great...but shouldn’t this be more than just a talent competition. I can’t imagine what other area Gretchen did well in. The Goldman book that is mentioned says the judges thought her interview was okay but not outstanding...but Colorado’s interview was terrific. I think it boiled down to the fact that they made a mistake in judging on finals night and didn’t count in the preliminary interview scores (as also mentioned in the Goldman book).
Agreed! Gretchen Carlson botched her interview.
It's not a talent contest. She looked rediculous.
Mary Ann Mobley Miss America of 1959 was the first beauty pageant I ever watched.
Anita Bryant, Miss Oklahoma was third runner-up.
First runner up Colorado is beautiful. Unsure about the winner, I've probably missed something!
Me too
I have memories, growing up in Memphis, TN starting in the early 70’s as a family, watching Miss America on TV (only 4 channels then). Each would write down our picks for the finalists. We’d of course want Miss Tennessee to win but Miss AR and Ms Mississippi would also work.
In America we have the 2 pageants, Miss USA and Miss Amer. I eventually would compare the two pageants in my head but Miss America seemed to be the “better” pageant.
They both were and still are good but that yes Miss America winners were good looking but Miss USA winners, compared to Miss America winners did have an edge as far as “knock out beauty” goes. Then I learned that the Miss America pageant was a scholarship pageant. I’d notice a Miss America finalist was enrolled in medical school. The Miss America pageant was more rounded. It promoted women excelling in all aspects of life. It rewarded women for not just their looks but also reward their ambitions and potential to make contributions ti the world.
And hey, can’t not give a shout out to Miss Tennessee Miss, America Kellye Cash! And I can’t not mention the great State of Mississippi and their winners who went on to be crowned our ideal! Ahh wow, such fantastic memories! RIP Mom and Dad.
RIP Mary Ann Mobley.
I remember I wanted Miss California to win.
Miss America - Maya Walker!!!
I liked Maya but I picked Marliese Ricardos, Miss California.
Maya walker
Agreed
I agree she was robbed Gretchen looks just like Miss Piggy
California or Colorado should have gotten it.
I agree with you!
It's clear from the posts here that the hatred people feel for those who have political views that differ from their own makes them say stupid things. I'm sure Gretchen looks better than any of her critics, but beyond that she is a class lady who never responds to hate with hate. You could learn an awfuul lot from her, but people who think they know everything stopped learning years ago.
What the hell are you talking about?
David, you obviously don't know her well.
Please.... Do your research before making statements like these. She exudes hatred, bullying and narcissism.
Once again, SHE ruined the Miss America pageant.
@@bestmoving3533 It took seven years to get this response. Why not just be honest and say, "I hate Gretchen."? I love when people say, "Do your research." It always means, "I know better than you, moron!" So, thanks for the great advice.
Worst thing to ever happen to Miss America is Gretchen Carlson! This one moment will ruin the future of Miss America!!
What a mistake. Miss America is regretting this still.
The woman WHO tore down Miss America and her crowning moment. We have her and Regina to thank for the demise of Miss America and the rise of Miss USA as the premiere pageant to be part of. Miss America is NOT going to survive much longer IF they are NOT stopped and as a Miss America Local contestant in 1988, I feel sad to see what is happening and pray that Forever Miss America's stop this and restore the gleam to Miss America and get rid of them two once and for all.
Beauty pageants aren’t a thing anymore because they represent the antiquated pressures on women. They objectify women. It’s 2020 and we’ve evolved. Pageants are over, nobody cares but old ladies trying to relive their glory days
Explain your theory? I don't get it? What did she do?
@@donfontana8282 I am going to try: Cara Mund-they both disrespected her by NOT allowing her to be the representative of Miss America we know she was, bullying by not allowing her to represent. Now that both are gone, Miss America is returning, but the changes and lack of transparency so the states could prepare their queens to go to the stage. Now there is a new Board and things are changing for the better. Gretchen changed the rules and did NOT tell others until almost too late. Many in the pageant world are NOT willing to take disrespect and bullying. The ladies who walk the stage are lawyers, Police Officers, Medical Examiners, Paralegals, First Responders, and in the Military and use the Scholarships to advance in their careers, and when we see these acts happen, we speak out.
Get rid of them two??? And you were a contestant???
It was 1988 not 1989. Because I was the first one to train Gretchen on the computer in Chicago in the Sears Tower under the direction of her "mentor" BF. She was very gracious and smart and not one for any man to contend with. Very proud of Gretchen.❤
Gretchen Carlson, the worst Miss America in the history of the Miss America Pageant.
Maya Walker was the winner, until they threw out the interview scores last minute, where Carlson was 10th and Maya 1st -
Actually, the auditors forgot to add in the interview score, which was carried over from prelims and that year counted 15%. There was a story about it in TV Guide the next year of Miss America week. But you are right, should have crowned Colorado. They had 2 judging panels that year and the prelim judges were shocked Minnesota won.
George Robbins I remember that TV Guide article too George........wonder if they really 'forgot'........? Maya went on to compete in Miss USA pageant, unfortunately didnt make the semis.
Thanks Rachel. Glad I am not the only one who remembers that. Have always wondered how it affected Maya when she found out about those scores being left out. Such a shame.
I remember that article, and I don't think it said they "forgot." Had that happened, they would have added the scores when they realized the mistake and given the title to the real winner. I believe the article said it was a deliberate decision that Miss America was to be chosen by the final night scores only.
She won. Documented. She's the classiest, brightest, most grounded, most beautiful lady ever.
Very elegant gown & up do hairstyle love her side view at 4:47!
Hairstyle? You mean the same one the other 9 have?
Marianne Ferris In the 80s, their hair is always a MESS!
And these are my wives lori and Jenny 💖💖💖💖.
Gretchen the bully. Bullying the current Miss America 2018. Colorado should have won.
I was really disappointed 😞😞😞😞 about my wife marlene from california coming in 3rd runner up.
I love Gretchen! She has beauty and talent, she's smart, and has a really big heart.
+Donna Jones : killer body
+Donna Jones : killer body
Legendary moment. She is very georgeosly beautiful.
Are you kidding she looks just like Miss Piggy no actually Miss Piggy is prettier
Colorado should have won!
I always thought so!
I married gretchen and marlene for love 💕❤️💓❤️.
Is it true that she took a year off from college, hired a coach, and practiced over and over again for that year to win the pageant? It seems she was 24 when she graduated from college from her bio. Or maybe that's just an internet fiction?
but is it internet friction?
Corona brought me here, ain`t got shit to do.............
I can't believe how hateful the comments have become on TH-cam these days. PLEASE people - if you can't manage to say something nice, kindly bless us with your silence.
If you can't handle it, kindly stay away. If you have to whine, kindly bless us with your silence.
PLEASE...we are stating the facts!!!!
Who would have thought that this woman became a Fox conservative, Trump supporter ,the person who actually ruined the Miss America pageant.
I wished that Maya Walker had won
0:25 It's a dozen mother-of-the-brides. Yikes! They look older than their years.
There are a bunch of look alikes in there.
Marianne Ferris It’s that messy 80s hairstyle that makes them not standout.
No
Take her crown shes ruin the pagent
Because I'm their favorite husband that they ever had in their lives 😂😂😂😂.
She was too pretty to win the title, they should've tested her on the intellectual knowledge of geothermal engineering application design synthesis and Egyptian anthropology.
Who this happened? Alabama and California deserved better placements .
And she is as cheesy today as she was in 1989.. so funny.
Check out 2011 Talent competition with Miss Teresa Scanlan
Gretchen did deserve to win. I'm a fellow violinist and though I can't stand her now, she won that crown fair and square. Can any of you play the violin better?!!!
Gretchen looks just like MISS PIGGYand her win was controversial she had been seen having lunch with one of the pageant execs during the pageant and one of the judges later referred to her as MISS PIGGY few yrs later and stated in a magazine article that the only reason she won was because the rules had been changed that year
I do agree that she had talent but when it came down to the interview question which determines the winner she choked she even said to Gary Collins when he was killing time while the judges were trying to break the tie and he was talking to the girls I wish I had answered my question better the pageant was fixed Miss Colorado was robbed
I'm so glad that Gretchen finally resigned as the head of Miss America Organization this month. She was a horrible, spiteful individual. Now I feel more comfortable in restarting my local pageant Miss Binghamton.
Binghamtonians are awesome.
Gretchen Carlson was, and still is, a very beautiful woman who fully supports the principles upon which our nation was founded. She has a good head on her shoulders.
Because our nation was totally founded on pretending to be victimized to justify forcing your religion on others and calling gays a "distraction from the real issues"
slavery, racism, sexism, bigotry, homophobia, genocide? Those founding principles? Or the principles that mostly protected protestant white men?
The African Slave Trade was in progress for nearly 2 centuries by the time of the Declaration of Independence in July 1776. In an age of dictators and monarchs, our Founding Fathers created the concept of human rights which we get not from government, but are birth rights from God, and captioned those rights via the Bill of Rights. America is not perfect, and it was not all-inclusive in the beginning, but this country does have a conscience. It spilled the blood of over 620,000 to rid itself of the original sin called slavery, and whether you agree or not, that certainly counts for something. If America is so evil, why is it that it has accepted more immigrants to it's shores than any other nation in human history?
She is one of the least attractive winners, ever, and I've said that since 1989. I live in Minnesota and couldn't understand the short fireplug with the look on her face that looked like she was going to be sick, winning.
Miss Colorado was robbed, what the hell are you talking about. The crowd knew it! I looked at this just because she isn't a beautiful woman, and I wanted to see if she was when she was younger, ad fuck if she doesn't look the same!
I'm all for Gretchen carlson. She is smart and accomplished. I am sorry that there ay not be swimsuits in the next one. Doing so will limit the veiwers. i guess tht'a not important.
Gretchen was..and still is...a babe.
you need a fucken eye check up she is a toe rag
And you are obviously gay..maybe you like Bill O'Reilly or Hannity more? you go little boy.
Frank Lee Medeere She's Miss Piggy!! LOL
Why does she look older in this video compared to 2014? Weird.
Miss Piggy,
I married Lori and Jenny for love ❤️💓❤️❤️.
The rumor has always been that alcoholic Gary Collins read the winners’ names backwards. In other words, Gretchen should have been 4th runner up. Don’t know why they didn’t stir him, maybe they were too embarrassed.
What about that rumor that she kept her kneepads on during the evening gown competition.
They actually wore dresses! Not naked dresses!
Beauty really is skin deep!
Not even.
If that were true Miss Minnesota who have never been crowned as there were many more contestants with your definition of beauty.
Miss Colorado the winner for sure!
Stolen Crown
I like Gretchen but Maya was the prettiest!
What a witch. She brought down the once revered pageant. They dumped her...😢
Mistake...
Colorado
If they ever do a biopic about Miss Piggy they should cast Gretchen to play her she looks just like her no I take that back Miss Piggy is prettier than Gretchen
She's fantastic.
That statement is delusional. Horrible choice, and horrible on every level.
Miss Colorado was robbed. Much prettier than Minnesota.
I read a book written by one of the Preliminary judges. He referred to Gretchen Carlson as “Miss Piggy”. She obviously had a nose job with her winnings.
I vote for Miss Fox News pageant
Colorado was robbed big time.
Seriously.
people ALWAYS forget that back then, not only do we have NO idea how well they impressed in the prelim interviews (basically, its a job interview- and those scores nor the tapes of each contestants interview are released) but also that back then talent counted 50%. And its also luck of the draw. Minnesota WON her talent prelim (Colorado however did NOT win any prelim) and I have only seen ONE finalist perform a violin talent near to how well Gretchen did that piece by Sarazat, and it was Miss Pa Susan Spafford in the 99 pageant which Heather French won as Miss America 2000. AND by winning a prelim, thats very likely a greater composite score carried over from prelims that is then added to what is done the night of finals. I am ALWAYS ALWAYS hearing and reading about who was robbed and this and that, but everyone keeps forgetting just how important the prelim interview is in determining who is more than likely going to win the whole thing. Also- back then, evening gown was a prelim and not until the early 2000's was there even any type or evening gown prelim award. So we have no idea how the judges viewed Maya in HER prelim interview, or evening gown. Its unfair, but them's the rules. Its a job interview folks.
and check out Getchen's talent. unfathomable. flawless. its available on here somewhere on youtube. Maya had a GREAT talent, even doing some great scat in her "night and day" performance, and a great evening gown answer final night (IMO). it came down to a prelim win in talent and us never knowing how well Maya or gretchen did in interview.
Louisiana won both swinsuit and talent prelims and if anyone got robbed it was her... but it happened before with Patricia Brant. It is a job interview ad certainly Gretchen went on to do amazing things for women.
@@BamaFan-vc4gn so, NO!! FALSE! Patricia Brandt, the year before this, was NOT a double prelim winner. She DID win talent on Wednesday, the first day of prelims her year in the group she was assigned. She did NOT win swimsuit prelim. That same prelim group she belonged to, I believe had the swimsuit prelim go to Ms South Carolina Nancy Humphries, now known as Nancy O'dell. The 3 prelim.swim suit winners at Patricia's pageant year were Ms Georgia, Kelly Jerles, Nancy Humphries and then the eventual Miss America that year, Michigan's Kaye Lani Raye Rafko.
,,,,✨God Bless Gretchen !!!, ✨👍🎭✨🌷#Peace
Can’t stand her. Never thought she was pretty
How did she ever win
And so many miss Americas say she is a bully
Kudos for Cara Mund for calling her out
Are we sure this wasn't Mrs. Grandmother America?
I'm sure you're prettier than all buttercup.
aginG Tool
But did she service the judges like she serviced her boss at Fox?
Yes you did.
Worse Miss America ever... Miss Alabama was the best
Her talent was not exceptional. I think she had a fake flower in her hair that kept slipping .. we were all about the flower, not what she was strumming. I wouldn’t be so rude, but this woman deserves it.
Because I am their favorite husband 😜😜😜😜.
The winner’s hair do has to go
The worst miss America ever.
Lame
She is as pretty as ever
Rachel Maddow is the best.
And the smartest. Any time you jump from the Bachelor's Program at Stanford right to Ph.D. Doctorate Program at Oxford, you have something going on between the ears.
What a mistake. Miss America is regretting this still.