For those who want to start a workspace yourself to make beams. 2 options: #1 You can download everything you need OPEN SOURCE for free to diy: preciousplastic.com/starterkits/showcase/extrusion.html #2 You can BUY a starterkit with machines to get started: preciousplastic.com/starterkits/buy/beams.html We are happy either way. More plastic recycling! :)
A few suggestions as someone who has worked in injection molding and extrusion of plastic in my youth. Eye and face protection is greatly advised. I had foremen who got a face full of hot plastic working at the high pressure end, removing a plug, all from residual pressure. Insulating the heater barrel will reduce the energy costs, ours (back in the 1970's) had 3-6 inches of insulating material. You need a cover on the feed hopper for safety sake.
I had no idea this was possible outside of commercial recycling industry. That's awesome! I can think of a ton of uses and I love that you can recycle material you machine away with saws, routers, drills, etc. I would love to be able to do this but damn I've already got myself into a ton of other things LOL!
The only thing I would be wary of is the expansion and contraction of the metal as it heats and cools. Would have to experiment - but wouldn't want the plastic to become stuck!
Excellent job! Here in the states this technique would be so beneficial. Instead of using wood to build fence around our yards, use plastic colored like wood.
I don't know for sure, but I think you would have to be selective as to the plastic you use. Some plastics degrade in sun light. ( UV light ). Just what I have heard. I am not an expert.
I really want to do something like that in Russia, but I just don't know how to start! People just don't understand how plastic and other trash effects on our life, physical and mental health...and I'm just a student, who doesn't have a support around. People sometimes think I'm crazy taking reusable coffee cup everywhere or sorting trash at home😅 i will be really appreciate if you give me some advice
Liza Haidarova , I am from India and I face the same problem like you... The solution is biodegradable paper cups... But we need to cut trees for making paper cups... So paper is not an option... I heard PLA plastic is bio degradable and environment friendly... So think about PLA
TUSHAR MAHANNA thanks) that's the point, that I'm already using a reusable glass cup, but people that around me still think that is will not change the plastic problem situation. But I am always disagree with them and trying to show the example by myself💪🏻
Liza Haidarova that's good, try clay cups... We Indians are using it from ancient times to till now... Google it "clay pots India" .. I think that's a solution you are looking for... It's cheap and completely biodegradable ... People around you will like your idea,( it takes time)...
Liza Haidarova Hi Liza Haidarova , I discover dave hakkens projet about recycling plastic I'm from Algeria and I'm in the same situation like you , I'm very interesting in precious plastic , I want to join the community ,but don't know how to star , someone from amsterdam told me to start to contact people from your country who will be intrested to help with there ideas , so start to chose your team . let me know if you start something in russia Bye.
Dear One Army, you could have better results if you let the oxigen flow away from the mold. Once it is completely full close the valve and let it cool. Greetings !! 🏆
Yes it shrinks enough t pop out. used to work for a recycled plastic company as a jobber doing extrusion, shredding and what I am licensed for the transport of to or pickup of plastic from suppliers. They of course would cool the molds in a tank of water but sometimes you get some extrusion that require a bit of "finesse" to free out.
C'mon mate, haven't you ever noticed, on Saturday night, when it is hot it is "Big". After a while when it is cold, that it has shrunk some? Well mine does, anyhow!
the screw looks a lot like the kind that is used in clamps & vices. Perhaps they could work? one of the most compelling things about extruded plastic parts is that they can be easily welded together with inexpensive, low energy and safe tools. (compared to metal welding). this means you would never need any fixings & fasteners! also if you didn't want to use heat (or solvent) welding for some reason , you can join parts using carpentry techniques like dowels, tenons, dovetails, scarf & lap joints etc..
I used to work at a plastic extrusion plant. We made drainage tile, the large and small diameter pipe that is used in road and house construction. It went as large as 900mm down to 100mm pipe. We plastic welded bell caps (flange) on the pipe after it came out of the extruders. We also used big dies to form the pipe, plus pump water and air through plumbing pipes to get a correct wall thickness. We used poly pellets + we chopped up any waste with a reciprocating saw or band saw then it went down the shoot into the chipper. The waste would be pulverized and reused. Quite the process.
If you coated the inside of the tubes with 100% petroleum, slightly heat the tube, and put more pressure on the material flowing into the tube with a piece of steel instead of wood, you could get a much better finish on the product.
I have joined your community and have grand ideas going forward, but have two burning questions that I can answer. 1. What type of plastic was used for the beams - PET, HDPE or PP. 2. How do you know when the metal tubing is full. Thanks in advance
Thank you for sharing your knowledge . I think if we were to all collaborate on this level a lot of problem and issues could be solved in a short amount. You guys are great !!!!!!!
so glad that there’s actually videos about this, ive been thinking that it would be a really good idea to build structures out of recycled plastic. think of the amount that would finally be reused if we replaced wooden beams with plastic.
Main issue with replacing wood with plastic is load capacity at a given length. There are many other wonderful uses for this type of recycling. Plastic shingles or furniture. There is a reason wood is the 'standard' in building material. Ease of availability and high functionality. imgur.com/a/nvb0J3H There are materials you can blend with the plastic in order to increase any characteristic you want. Carbon fibre is one. Here is a study worth reading: qurl.org/jnV One common use is wood-blended plastic deck boards.
I used to work for a plastics company that did extrusion. You don't need all that bar! It's not that hard to make a die for a hollow tube too. What you do need is a series of water cooled rollers that guide it out as it cools. By the end it's fully hardened. The "die" is the really expensive part. Great idea with their system as is though. I would simply use a shorter tube. You can make the extrusions as long as you have enough plastic for.
Dave .... Brilliant work ... just came across your project and viewed your website .. ...open source plans to download ... and so professional .. already I am figuring how to put a shredder and extruder into preparation .... this brings the process of recycling and re-purposing into a real world home process ..... forget about the hand cutting of HDPE milk bottles and melting in the domestic oven ... I hope millions of viewers can recognise what you are achieving .... damn fine work. Oh and yeah the differing shrinkage rates will require a modified two part mould ... bolted together ... to release easily .... but that is what you are trying ... get others into the process of thinking how .... congrats Greg Brugman Bundaberg Australia
Dave, have you tried heating the tube during extrusion to slow cooling slow you can get a smooth glasslike surface? Amazing idea, this will be the new normal some day... It has to be!
Plus plastic lumber is just better than wood for some applications. I make a lot of stuff that has to hold up in a hostile marine environment, and plastic beats everything but stainless steel for many of those applications. Problem is, finding the actual plastic stock and fittings you need. Enter the Precious Plastic plan!
A wood 2x4x8' is only $4 a home depot. You can't make any material of the same dimension and volume for that price assuming you calculate your time into the cost.
@@internettoughguy Home Depot doesn't serve the world. Let's see how far your 4$ Yank gets you in a European lumberyard. Plus, as I said above, wood isn't the best material for every job. You're not saving any money building your house out of cardboard even if it is cheaper than wood. We need plastic lumber.
@@RobMacKendrick It would only make sense if there was an economical way to produce the new material from existing waste material. We don't need more plastic in the world.
Dave deserves a medal or a knighthood for his work. I'd buy recycled plastic picket fencing and outdoor decking boards if someone was able to make them?
Plastic fencing would be the better use of recycled plastic. Plastic decking would need to be much stiffer, stronger, and thicker like 2' x 6' / 2' x 8' / 2' x 10' / 2' x 12' / 2' x 14'
I started wood turning recently and have been making recycled hdpe bowls and spoons. They're pretty rad! I can't do anything very big yet but I hope to try some of the things you guys are doing here too make other things I'd normally make from wood.
Excellent ideas and execution. Looks like the sort of thing that Transition Towns groups might be interested in to help cut down on single use plastic waste.
The problem with most of the machines depicted on this channel is they require welding. For those of us who can not weld, either due to lack of skill or lack of equipment, these machines are pretty much impossible to make. I wish Dave would design some versions of his machines that do not require welding, either replacing metal parts with wooden ones, or using bolts and screws. Being able to use less expensive materials that are easier to obtain would be handy as well. The only store here in town that sold stock metal recently closed, making building most of Dave's plans unbuildable. Having all these wonderful plans is great, but if I can't build any of the machines they are useless to me.
@@BoingotheClown you can also use a car battery to stick weld, just make sure to wear rubber gloves, 3 pairs of sunglasses and to yeet your car battery in the ocean once youre done
YOU'RE AN ANGEL!!!!!!!! It's very disturbing how much plastic we put in our earth on a daily basis. This is something that truly bothers me!!!! It's nice to FINALLY know that other ppl think about it too. I was beginning to think that i was just way differently weird...lol THANK YOU #thewaytoshowtruelove
Please have a material engineer do some testing on the material to show results to prove that the material can be used for a variety of applications. This could be a major step forward in applied material usage.
The thin green piece you showed looks like it could be used as shaker style shingles or used as some sort of siding. Just needs to be alot wider. Could even be shaped into patio decking. So many possibilities.
I should review your design for the tower, all the diagonals are in the same direction and will eventually just twist and collapse. Have a look at any professionally erected scaffold and you’ll see what I mean. Interesting use of the plastic though. How do costs compare other materials? Regards.
Wow, thanks. Well done, you have a great accent yet I can understand you clearly. Your workshop has me a little green. I look forward to watching more from you.
I hate plastic waste, as many people do, so I love the idea that we can make the stuff useful. Given it will be around a very long time, I can see all sorts of things that should be made. I'd love to see the plastic extruded into a mold to make a shape that fits together. Basically really large lego. A home shop could make lots of these large lego and sell them to people to make sheds and various other things at home. I'm sure the plastic could be glued together too, or molded in a way that it has a hole where a locking pin could go.
YOu could go to a scrapyard and salvage a motor they cost next to nothing. Most of the parts could be salvaged there. The machine shouldn't cost more then $50 done that way. this one explains it th-cam.com/video/CRM7Jip2swU/w-d-xo.html or the more complex and pro one... th-cam.com/video/3-JFVo6BDA4/w-d-xo.html
The biggest problem I see so far is rigidity along the wide top/bottom when compared to the sides. I suppose notching the center and adding keystock would stiffen it up a bit, or make L shapes...great idea tho!
awesome work. Perhaps you could stamp a mark on each piece with the kind of plastic it is made of, for easier re-recycling in the future. Thanks for sharing!
I remember saving plastic back in the 90s thinking I was going to try something like this. Never figured out where to start. But I think you just solved the worlds landfill problem.
I bought a guillotine paper cutter. I tilted the cutter upright. I stomped on plastic bottles, etc., with my feet. I made a hopper to dump in plastic. I placed a weight on top to push the plastic down. I used my arms to chop up the plastic using the cutter. I made a 2x4 mold out of wood. I heated the plastic using a solar outdoor oven. I poured the plastic into the mold. I made 2x4 plastic beams. I use the beams for shelving around my house.
Yes and no. This plastic is not UV stabilized. It would bleach out and begin degrading in very short order. Some plastics end up brittle and will go to powder in just a year or two in direct sunlight. It would require additional additives to stabilize and make it useful for that.
I used to work in industrial coatings where we used twin screw extruders to make powder coatings we used pvc pellets to clean the barrels. Nasty thing extruding pvc but it cleaned well. We sent back to our supplier and they recycled it. Win Win. Nice way to take a bunch of material out of the waste stream 👍 Good video.
I guess that's just a little bit out of the league of casual TH-cam production. What could be possible is blow-moulding plastic foil. Plastic sheets like those for windows, etc. are often produced on wide extruders like here (th-cam.com/video/Q63Hu-8gV5k/w-d-xo.html). Maybe we'll see a small plastic sheet, maybe a few centimeters wide, that would already be pretty cool (not even speaking of clear sheets)
@@dominikschaefer7626 nah you could extrude it through a thick rectangular heated pipe, then send it through some rollers. Probably watercool the rollers to help stiffen the plastic as it rolls out. The hardest part is timing the rollers to match the extrusion speed, set it too slowly and you may get a buildup of plastic around the roller. Too technical to explain in a comment. It is possible though and can be done simply. If you started doing extrusions in the first place, this wouldnt be much harder
@@dominikschaefer7626 infact if you made the plastic exit the rollers vertically into a cold waterbath you could instantly harden it and create a uniform sheet. If too much plastic is extruded then it will simply make a wider sheet of the same thickness which could be trimmed
@@dominikschaefer7626 actually the easiest way to do at home is just to take two baking pans and sandwich some molten plastic between it then let it cool
I watched all your other videos including the one where you made a hexagonal tile mould for injection moulding, but the cycle time on that process is pretty long - how about extruding into a hexagonal bar and slicing into tiles (recycle the shavings back into the mix)?
It shouldn't be that hard man. Just watch this video and you'll see. It really basic actually and quite easy if you really would like to make one. Just some scrapyard parts and you are golden...th-cam.com/video/CRM7Jip2swU/w-d-xo.html or this one for the pro one...th-cam.com/video/3-JFVo6BDA4/w-d-xo.html
Excelent Idea, in my country, Guatemala, (I 'm sorry my english is very pour) aquí tenemos también unas personas que se dedican a esto y hacen techos (tejas) parales, reglas, tablas, cercos, comederos para animales, basureros y YO VI que lo mezclaron con pocas cantidades y medio finas (no gruesa) de astillas de madera para darle fuerza al plástico, y les ha funcionado bien. A mí me gustaría HACER eso que USTED hizo ya a nivel comercial y RECICLAR mucha basura plástica, contribuir al medio ambiente y a la ecología, cómo le contacto?
@@TheTesseractsShadowChannel I help you translate. The guy wants to make this project to commercial level. His community usually recycles plastic to do all kind of things. It sounds wired, but he said it mix plastic with wood...
I'm sitting here looking at that flex and I've got half a dozen different ideas for re-enforcement. It would definitely be down-cycling, mixing in new materials to change the properties would make it so it can't become a pure plastic again, but something as simple as fiberglass fiber could make for significantly more rigidity.
Because it's too difficult to do. You have to have enough raw material, and it has to be clean enough. You need people to do it, and those people need to be paid. The parts have to meet certain engineering specifications, and it is unlikely that these do. What happens when someone sits on the plastic picnic table and it breaks and injures them? They may want to sue the municipality. The only sensible solution is to have a more centralized facility rather than one in every municipality, but then the final question is what does one of these beams cost compared to other materials of equal performance? The answer is it will cost more. This guy is a hobbyist. He does this because it's fun, but it's not a very practical solution in real life.
This is amazing. Well done. To turn plastic into a product that can have a second life is just what is required. In New Zealand making fence posts has been demonstrated but I am not sure if any one is making product yet.
I wonder if it's possible to remove the color from plastic, so you could have (in the case of fence posts, for instance) a plain white fence. Most recycled plastic products I've seen are a uniform grey, so I'm guessing they have been re-colored. It seems that color would be an issue in recycling this way.
mooi en informatief! Ik zit al heel lang te broeden op iets kleins voor modelbouw en dan voor bijvoorbeeld U en I profiel. Bedankt voor je moeite en bereidheid om het te delen.
Obrigado David saudações do Brasil! Tenho grande interesse em reciclar plástico e ajudar a dar solução a um problema ambiental em minha região. Gostaria de moldar plástico para fabricar flautas em série. Tenho dificuldades em planejar uma maquina e moldes adequados. Outro projeto mais comercial seria produzir barras e telhas para construção de moradias baratas para populações de baixa renda. Seu vídeo me deu preciosa instrução, muito obrigado. Se puder sugerir outras fontes onde eu possa buscar instrução lhe fico muito grato. Abraço e parabéns pelo trabalho.
De onde vc é? Conseguiu dar andamento ao projeto? Eu tenho exatamente a mesma vontade, chega me assustei ao ver a ideia da flauta. Eu trabalho na área da reciclagem, fabricando facas para moinho e aglutinador e talvez poderíamos desenvolver o projeto juntos
Fence posts and batons for farm fences. Instead of injecting into a mold try extruding onto water cooled parallel rollers and cutting to length while hot, self forming round posts in Continuous production. You could also add non compatible plastics as filler/aggregate that forms a sort of plastic concrete.
From my experience working for a recycled plastic company we used open end molds and though our method was different, we cooled the molds in a tank of water below the injection machine and one way was to watch the water evaporate or dry out on the metal but best was to use "touch as the end or start would be warm enough you can touch to see where it is for length. I worked on the extrusion as well as shredding processors and drove the company truck to make local deliveries as needed for the owner.
We've been looking at different materials to use making geodesic domes. Short length spare in a controlled diameter round tube might be very promising.
I need your help, I work in surfing and diving club. And every year we throw hundreds of wetsuits into the trash. I always stand and look at the pile of bags full of wet suits, thinking about taking home and recycle alone. but I fear that I will be stuck with many suits and unable to return them to their original raw material. Is it possible to recycle Niaofriim? And I do not really want to make hundreds of cases for laptops like TH-cam suggests
If you work in a surfing & diving club, then you should know how to spell neoprene correctly. You could try tho heat the suits gently, then force the material into a form, or into a pellet-maker, then you can sell it.
A small company near me does this and makes ever-lasting decking boards. They use the waste product from a local bagging company. Unfortunately though, it's not cost effective as the effort to make these board is far more expensive than timber boards.
I guess you'd need a hot mold, I know that when they pour UPVC mouldings ( window frames etc..) The mold is pressurised . this could be achieved with weight but the mold would need to have some weight.
First, figure out shrink, then build the appropriately sized frame (2.45x1.25m, or something similar as a top of the head guess) which is warmed, flow plastic into it, and then put in a top plate and compress.
@@drackar Yep, only problem with that is, that sheet machine with heated bed like that costs thousands. Enought strong metal bed not to warp and heating elements(if you dont want to get fumehood or other safety issues) are alone allready pretty hi cost.
I would check out the type of plastic first. As plastic doesn't bio degrade, it photo degrades in sunlight, roofing shingles may not be a good idea. Depends on the type of plastic though
Great ideas ... more folk ( and industries ! ) should do this to help the HUGE dumping of used plastics ... any item that lives outdoors will never ROT ( use A2 / A4 stainless steel fastenings , of course ! ) ... maybe you might do a video on how to add dyes / pigments to change beam colour ( like from bright yellow scrap plastic to a brown " garden " shade ? ? ) ......
Here's a thought: Place a piston inside the tube, seal the other end with a fitting, then have a large container of water with a hose that goes down to the fitting. The pressure of the weight of the water will provide a constant force against the piston, holding the plastic back. The pressure can be easily set by changing how much water is in the tank. Does that make sense?
![Filament Extruder from widely available parts [ENG SUBS]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NrexroHEQAc/mqdefault.jpg)
For those who want to start a workspace yourself to make beams. 2 options:
#1 You can download everything you need OPEN SOURCE for free to diy: preciousplastic.com/starterkits/showcase/extrusion.html
#2 You can BUY a starterkit with machines to get started: preciousplastic.com/starterkits/buy/beams.html
We are happy either way. More plastic recycling! :)
Is that metal bar closed from other side?
how much plastic do you need for one beam?
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Am very interested I want to produce school furniture
@@resegotumelo7448 resego how. Buy one
I would think you need some hole to release trapped air or it will be forced into the molten plastic and make voids in it.
A few suggestions as someone who has worked in injection molding and extrusion of plastic in my youth. Eye and face protection is greatly advised. I had foremen who got a face full of hot plastic working at the high pressure end, removing a plug, all from residual pressure. Insulating the heater barrel will reduce the energy costs, ours (back in the 1970's) had 3-6 inches of insulating material. You need a cover on the feed hopper for safety sake.
I had no idea this was possible outside of commercial recycling industry. That's awesome! I can think of a ton of uses and I love that you can recycle material you machine away with saws, routers, drills, etc. I would love to be able to do this but damn I've already got myself into a ton of other things LOL!
Really cool stuff man. I'm impressed.
Hey Zack! Didnt expect you here
.....pressed 😜
How strong are these?
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This machine would be great for making 'planks' for making self assembly sheds using the plastic poles to fix them to.
Heat your molds before you cast, that how you get smooth shiny candles.
The only thing I would be wary of is the expansion and contraction of the metal as it heats and cools. Would have to experiment - but wouldn't want the plastic to become stuck!
Hola soy de Argentina!! Como puedo adquirir el proceso para realizar madera plástica ? Gracias saludos !!!
@@MrGrowboy the plastic will contract more
@@zoraidaherrera7340 a que te refieres? Si ocupas alguna traducción puedo ayudar
In effect adding the flow rate control is letting the extruded plastic heat the mold and stay liquid.
Excellent job! Here in the states this technique would be so beneficial. Instead of using wood to build fence around our yards, use plastic colored like wood.
I don't know for sure, but I think you would have to be selective as to the plastic you use. Some plastics degrade in sun light. ( UV light ). Just what I have heard. I am not an expert.
Consider UV degradation, wind action on structure, not sustainable like wood and has the strength of a wet lettuce leaf.
I really want to do something like that in Russia, but I just don't know how to start! People just don't understand how plastic and other trash effects on our life, physical and mental health...and I'm just a student, who doesn't have a support around. People sometimes think I'm crazy taking reusable coffee cup everywhere or sorting trash at home😅 i will be really appreciate if you give me some advice
Liza Haidarova , I am from India and I face the same problem like you... The solution is biodegradable paper cups... But we need to cut trees for making paper cups... So paper is not an option... I heard PLA plastic is bio degradable and environment friendly... So think about PLA
TUSHAR MAHANNA thanks) that's the point, that I'm already using a reusable glass cup, but people that around me still think that is will not change the plastic problem situation. But I am always disagree with them and trying to show the example by myself💪🏻
Liza Haidarova that's good, try clay cups... We Indians are using it from ancient times to till now... Google it "clay pots India" .. I think that's a solution you are looking for... It's cheap and completely biodegradable ... People around you will like your idea,( it takes time)...
Also try banana leaf as plate while eating, I eat on it everyday... And use jute bags instead of polythene bags..
Liza Haidarova
Hi Liza Haidarova , I discover dave hakkens projet about recycling plastic
I'm from Algeria and I'm in the same situation like you , I'm very interesting in precious plastic , I want to join the community ,but don't know how to star , someone from amsterdam told me to start to contact people from your country who will be intrested to help with there ideas , so start to chose your team . let me know if you start something in russia
Bye.
Dear One Army, you could have better results if you let the oxigen flow away from the mold. Once it is completely full close the valve and let it cool. Greetings !! 🏆
Wow, I didn't think it would slide out so easy!
Yes it shrinks enough t pop out. used to work for a recycled plastic company as a jobber doing extrusion, shredding and what I am licensed for the transport of to or pickup of plastic from suppliers. They of course would cool the molds in a tank of water but sometimes you get some extrusion that require a bit of "finesse" to free out.
me too
C'mon mate, haven't you ever noticed, on Saturday night, when it is hot it is "Big". After a while when it is cold, that it has shrunk some? Well mine does, anyhow!
@@Joshua79C sir this my humble requst i need work in plastic recling
Thats what SHE said!! Lol
Yes, you can play with colors! The texture is great! Thanks ♻️🧱
the screw looks a lot like the kind that is used in clamps & vices. Perhaps they could work?
one of the most compelling things about extruded plastic parts is that they can be easily welded together with inexpensive, low energy and safe tools. (compared to metal welding).
this means you would never need any fixings & fasteners!
also if you didn't want to use heat (or solvent) welding for some reason , you can join parts using carpentry techniques like dowels, tenons, dovetails, scarf & lap joints etc..
I used to work at a plastic extrusion plant. We made drainage tile, the large and small diameter pipe that is used in road and house construction. It went as large as 900mm down to 100mm pipe. We plastic welded bell caps (flange) on the pipe after it came out of the extruders. We also used big dies to form the pipe, plus pump water and air through plumbing pipes to get a correct wall thickness. We used poly pellets + we chopped up any waste with a reciprocating saw or band saw then it went down the shoot into the chipper. The waste would be pulverized and reused. Quite the process.
If you coated the inside of the tubes with 100% petroleum, slightly heat the tube, and put more pressure on the material flowing into the tube with a piece of steel instead of wood, you could get a much better finish on the product.
@anarchore I think he means "petrolatum" also known as "petroleum jelly." I think the key here would be to get it to coat evenly (via the heating).
I have joined your community and have grand ideas going forward, but have two burning questions that I can answer.
1. What type of plastic was used for the beams - PET, HDPE or PP.
2. How do you know when the metal tubing is full.
Thanks in advance
Thank you for sharing your knowledge . I think if we were to all collaborate on this level a lot of problem and issues could be solved in a short amount. You guys are great !!!!!!!
so glad that there’s actually videos about this, ive been thinking that it would be a really good idea to build structures out of recycled plastic. think of the amount that would finally be reused if we replaced wooden beams with plastic.
Main issue with replacing wood with plastic is load capacity at a given length.
There are many other wonderful uses for this type of recycling. Plastic shingles or furniture.
There is a reason wood is the 'standard' in building material. Ease of availability and high functionality.
imgur.com/a/nvb0J3H
There are materials you can blend with the plastic in order to increase any characteristic you want. Carbon fibre is one.
Here is a study worth reading: qurl.org/jnV
One common use is wood-blended plastic deck boards.
Lots of wooden fence posts would stand up longer if they were plastic, perhaps with an embedded tube of chicken wire.
I used to work for a plastics company that did extrusion. You don't need all that bar! It's not that hard to make a die for a hollow tube too.
What you do need is a series of water cooled rollers that guide it out as it cools. By the end it's fully hardened.
The "die" is the really expensive part. Great idea with their system as is though. I would simply use a shorter tube. You can make the extrusions as long as you have enough plastic for.
Hello, you got me, please elaborate on alternative moulding, and cost effective ways you can employ, would you mind sharing this with us teacher
.AS AN ENGINEER (RETIRED) THIS PLASTIC RECYCLING FASCINATES ME... THANK YOU VERY MUCH
Dave .... Brilliant work ... just came across your project and viewed your website .. ...open source plans to download ... and so professional .. already I am figuring how to put a shredder and extruder into preparation .... this brings the process of recycling and re-purposing into a real world home process ..... forget about the hand cutting of HDPE milk bottles and melting in the domestic oven ... I hope millions of viewers can recognise what you are achieving .... damn fine work. Oh and yeah the differing shrinkage rates will require a modified two part mould ... bolted together ... to release easily .... but that is what you are trying ... get others into the process of thinking how .... congrats Greg Brugman Bundaberg Australia
I read this in the voice of William Shatner.
Dave, have you tried heating the tube during extrusion to slow cooling slow you can get a smooth glasslike surface?
Amazing idea, this will be the new normal some day... It has to be!
you give us your knowledge and teach us how to do all this great things, thank you so much and greetings from México !
I've been researching this because wood prices are getting out of control
Plus plastic lumber is just better than wood for some applications. I make a lot of stuff that has to hold up in a hostile marine environment, and plastic beats everything but stainless steel for many of those applications. Problem is, finding the actual plastic stock and fittings you need. Enter the Precious Plastic plan!
A wood 2x4x8' is only $4 a home depot. You can't make any material of the same dimension and volume for that price assuming you calculate your time into the cost.
@@internettoughguy Home Depot doesn't serve the world. Let's see how far your 4$ Yank gets you in a European lumberyard. Plus, as I said above, wood isn't the best material for every job. You're not saving any money building your house out of cardboard even if it is cheaper than wood. We need plastic lumber.
@@RobMacKendrick It would only make sense if there was an economical way to produce the new material from existing waste material. We don't need more plastic in the world.
@@RobMacKendrick imagine a house fire with a plastic framed house. Would the government fine the owner or the builder for pollution? haha
WE NEED THIS IN AUSTRALIA ....everywhere!
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YOU ARE A VERY SMART MAN, YOU IMPRESSED ME WITH YOUR MACHINE.
I'm very glad I found your channel, thanks for creating these videos!!
Dave deserves a medal or a knighthood for his work. I'd buy recycled plastic picket fencing and outdoor decking boards if someone was able to make them?
Plastic fencing would be the better use of recycled plastic. Plastic decking would need to be much stiffer, stronger, and thicker like 2' x 6' / 2' x 8' / 2' x 10' / 2' x 12' / 2' x 14'
I started wood turning recently and have been making recycled hdpe bowls and spoons. They're pretty rad! I can't do anything very big yet but I hope to try some of the things you guys are doing here too make other things I'd normally make from wood.
Wow nice machine. It opens a lot of possibilities of things you can do with plastic beam instead of using wood
when working with polystyrene try adding an air fitting and blow it out of the mold....
can high denesity polystyrene be extruded like this
Excellent ideas and execution. Looks like the sort of thing that Transition Towns groups might be interested in to help cut down on single use plastic waste.
Defenetly I ll love to be able to do that here in México .it would help a Lot . Thanks God bless you
I hope people find it interesting to use, because it is needed. It helps nature. Thank you your idea.
The problem with most of the machines depicted on this channel is they require welding. For those of us who can not weld, either due to lack of skill or lack of equipment, these machines are pretty much impossible to make. I wish Dave would design some versions of his machines that do not require welding, either replacing metal parts with wooden ones, or using bolts and screws. Being able to use less expensive materials that are easier to obtain would be handy as well. The only store here in town that sold stock metal recently closed, making building most of Dave's plans unbuildable.
Having all these wonderful plans is great, but if I can't build any of the machines they are useless to me.
learn to weld 8^) 110v stick welding machines go for 200$
a lifetime of skills and uses
@@MrFranklitalien So when should I expect that $200.00 you are sending me?
@@BoingotheClown i can has dem gibmedats
have you tried not being poor
@@MrFranklitalien I tried. It didn't take.
@@BoingotheClown you can also use a car battery to stick weld, just make sure to wear rubber gloves, 3 pairs of sunglasses and to yeet your car battery in the ocean once youre done
YOU'RE AN ANGEL!!!!!!!!
It's very disturbing how much plastic we put in our earth on a daily basis. This is something that truly bothers me!!!! It's nice to FINALLY know that other ppl think about it too. I was beginning to think that i was just way differently weird...lol
THANK YOU
#thewaytoshowtruelove
You can always be part of the solution. I can normally fill a trash bag on any quarter mile stretch of dirt road. Plus it's exercise!
Please have a material engineer do some testing on the material to show results to prove that the material can be used for a variety of applications.
This could be a major step forward in applied material usage.
Great channel thanks for switching me on to recycling plastic
That came out of the tube way easier then I though it would have.
That’s what she-
wait I that read wrong.
The thin green piece you showed looks like it could be used as shaker style shingles or used as some sort of siding.
Just needs to be alot wider.
Could even be shaped into patio decking.
So many possibilities.
I totally love this dude !!! He really teaches you sum good shit !!
This is fantastic! Bet you could get a smooth surface on that stock by heating the mould.
I should review your design for the tower, all the diagonals are in the same direction and will eventually just twist and collapse. Have a look at any professionally erected scaffold and you’ll see what I mean. Interesting use of the plastic though. How do costs compare other materials? Regards.
Wow, thanks. Well done, you have a great accent yet I can understand you clearly. Your workshop has me a little green. I look forward to watching more from you.
Amazing machine guys, love the creativity you have towards recycling plastics :D Keep up the good work!
I hate plastic waste, as many people do, so I love the idea that we can make the stuff useful. Given it will be around a very long time, I can see all sorts of things that should be made.
I'd love to see the plastic extruded into a mold to make a shape that fits together. Basically really large lego. A home shop could make lots of these large lego and sell them to people to make sheds and various other things at home. I'm sure the plastic could be glued together too, or molded in a way that it has a hole where a locking pin could go.
Couldnt you make a vent right after the hopper, thats what we have on our large extrusion machines
Great thing for a park bench beams. Does not deteriorate, can be bent, can have uv protection added.
Love the idea. I can't wait till I get the money to make my own.
YOu could go to a scrapyard and salvage a motor they cost next to nothing. Most of the parts could be salvaged there. The machine shouldn't cost more then $50 done that way. this one explains it th-cam.com/video/CRM7Jip2swU/w-d-xo.html or the more complex and pro one... th-cam.com/video/3-JFVo6BDA4/w-d-xo.html
The biggest problem I see so far is rigidity along the wide top/bottom when compared to the sides. I suppose notching the center and adding keystock would stiffen it up a bit, or make L shapes...great idea tho!
awesome work. Perhaps you could stamp a mark on each piece with the kind of plastic it is made of, for easier re-recycling in the future.
Thanks for sharing!
This is very useful and can help with recycled plastic by preventing it from ending in the landfill.
Why not set up at the landfill? Plastic coming in gets separated and post and beam fence/walls can be made from this machine for use at the landfill.
Kids Playground would be a good project!
Get on this! You might even be able to get some funding,
Already done from HDPE. Also slides are done from recycled HDPE.
Mark Bowden A house would be a better idea.
@rats arsed This. If I made something for a kid, the way to go would be wood, bolts and metal.
@@jjeshop good luck with off gassing, poor structural integrity, firehazard, thermal insulation and the fact it breaks down in the sun...
Gracias por lo que haces por el planeta, gracias por preocuparse por los latinos que seguimos tus videos, gracias por compartir tu sabiduría...
Ok so we can get plastic mix it and melt it to make decorative boards, maybe for making furniture or something.
But how
This is awesome, you can also reduce the use of wood, maybe use the beams for partitioning walls, and other construction uses.
I remember saving plastic back in the 90s thinking I was going to try something like this. Never figured out where to start. But I think you just solved the worlds landfill problem.
I bought a guillotine paper cutter.
I tilted the cutter upright.
I stomped on plastic bottles, etc., with my feet.
I made a hopper to dump in plastic.
I placed a weight on top to push the plastic down.
I used my arms to chop up the plastic using the cutter.
I made a 2x4 mold out of wood.
I heated the plastic using a solar outdoor oven.
I poured the plastic into the mold.
I made 2x4 plastic beams.
I use the beams for shelving around my house.
This technique would be perfect for making composite decking.
Eric Cha I was thinking the exact same thing
Right. Go to Lowes and look at how much they charge for the Trex board. You could make a fortune.
Yes and no. This plastic is not UV stabilized. It would bleach out and begin degrading in very short order. Some plastics end up brittle and will go to powder in just a year or two in direct sunlight. It would require additional additives to stabilize and make it useful for that.
I don’t think the raw plastic Will hold up well under UV exposure
I wonder what those additives are, and if it can be DIY on the cheap.
I used to work in industrial coatings where we used twin screw extruders to make powder coatings we used pvc pellets to clean the barrels. Nasty thing extruding pvc but it cleaned well. We sent back to our supplier and they recycled it. Win Win. Nice way to take a bunch of material out of the waste stream
👍 Good video.
How to make plastic sheets tutorial, please!
I guess that's just a little bit out of the league of casual TH-cam production. What could be possible is blow-moulding plastic foil. Plastic sheets like those for windows, etc. are often produced on wide extruders like here (th-cam.com/video/Q63Hu-8gV5k/w-d-xo.html). Maybe we'll see a small plastic sheet, maybe a few centimeters wide, that would already be pretty cool (not even speaking of clear sheets)
buenas,donde se puede conseguir esa máquina,y cuanto,cuesta?
@@dominikschaefer7626 nah you could extrude it through a thick rectangular heated pipe, then send it through some rollers. Probably watercool the rollers to help stiffen the plastic as it rolls out. The hardest part is timing the rollers to match the extrusion speed, set it too slowly and you may get a buildup of plastic around the roller. Too technical to explain in a comment.
It is possible though and can be done simply. If you started doing extrusions in the first place, this wouldnt be much harder
@@dominikschaefer7626 infact if you made the plastic exit the rollers vertically into a cold waterbath you could instantly harden it and create a uniform sheet. If too much plastic is extruded then it will simply make a wider sheet of the same thickness which could be trimmed
@@dominikschaefer7626 actually the easiest way to do at home is just to take two baking pans and sandwich some molten plastic between it then let it cool
These are planks, beams are structural and load bearing. These have no uniformity of strength, but it is a really great re-use of plastic. 👍
I watched all your other videos including the one where you made a hexagonal tile mould for injection moulding, but the cycle time on that process is pretty long - how about extruding into a hexagonal bar and slicing into tiles (recycle the shavings back into the mix)?
Atomic Shrimp ...thinking like a PRODUCTION guy! ;)
Cutting plastic without deforming it is a daunting task.
@@alexandrevaliquette1941 cutting with water can avoid the plastic heat up while cutting .
thanks you all!! great info!! and thanks for including samples like chair.. ladder etc. this is great stuff!!
Amazing! my mind is overflowing with ideas for this! the machine is outside my skill set at the moment but definetly on the list
It shouldn't be that hard man. Just watch this video and you'll see. It really basic actually and quite easy if you really would like to make one. Just some scrapyard parts and you are golden...th-cam.com/video/CRM7Jip2swU/w-d-xo.html or this one for the pro one...th-cam.com/video/3-JFVo6BDA4/w-d-xo.html
I think this is very cleaver idea
Well done
Excelent Idea, in my country, Guatemala, (I 'm sorry my english is very pour) aquí tenemos también unas personas que se dedican a esto y hacen techos (tejas) parales, reglas, tablas, cercos, comederos para animales, basureros y YO VI que lo mezclaron con pocas cantidades y medio finas (no gruesa) de astillas de madera para darle fuerza al plástico, y les ha funcionado bien.
A mí me gustaría HACER eso que USTED hizo ya a nivel comercial y RECICLAR mucha basura plástica, contribuir al medio ambiente y a la ecología, cómo le contacto?
Well was a good start you lost me through
Lo siento que mi respuesto esta muy tarde. Si quieres contactar, visitas el cito preciousplastic.com
Why even mention English if your just going to say it all in Spanish.
th-cam.com/video/kx6Y1pNhUkg/w-d-xo.html
@@TheTesseractsShadowChannel I help you translate. The guy wants to make this project to commercial level. His community usually recycles plastic to do all kind of things. It sounds wired, but he said it mix plastic with wood...
Every school should have one of these machines.
Any testing on the strength of this versus a real wood 2x4?
I'm sitting here looking at that flex and I've got half a dozen different ideas for re-enforcement. It would definitely be down-cycling, mixing in new materials to change the properties would make it so it can't become a pure plastic again, but something as simple as fiberglass fiber could make for significantly more rigidity.
why doesn't every municipality have one to recycle garbage into highway signs, roadside picnic tables, fence posts, the list is endless.
Because it's too difficult to do. You have to have enough raw material, and it has to be clean enough. You need people to do it, and those people need to be paid. The parts have to meet certain engineering specifications, and it is unlikely that these do. What happens when someone sits on the plastic picnic table and it breaks and injures them? They may want to sue the municipality. The only sensible solution is to have a more centralized facility rather than one in every municipality, but then the final question is what does one of these beams cost compared to other materials of equal performance? The answer is it will cost more. This guy is a hobbyist. He does this because it's fun, but it's not a very practical solution in real life.
This is amazing. Well done. To turn plastic into a product that can have a second life is just what is required. In New Zealand making fence posts has been demonstrated but I am not sure if any one is making product yet.
I wonder if it's possible to remove the color from plastic, so you could have (in the case of fence posts, for instance) a plain white fence. Most recycled plastic products I've seen are a uniform grey, so I'm guessing they have been re-colored. It seems that color would be an issue in recycling this way.
How often can you recycle the chips that com off of those bars? I heard that most plastics degrade with every melting.
mooi en informatief! Ik zit al heel lang te broeden op iets kleins voor modelbouw en dan voor bijvoorbeeld U en I profiel.
Bedankt voor je moeite en bereidheid om het te delen.
Obrigado David saudações do Brasil! Tenho grande interesse em reciclar plástico e ajudar a dar solução a um problema ambiental em minha região. Gostaria de moldar plástico para fabricar flautas em série. Tenho dificuldades em planejar uma maquina e moldes adequados. Outro projeto mais comercial seria produzir barras e telhas para construção de moradias baratas para populações de baixa renda. Seu vídeo me deu preciosa instrução, muito obrigado. Se puder sugerir outras fontes onde eu possa buscar instrução lhe fico muito grato. Abraço e parabéns pelo trabalho.
De onde vc é? Conseguiu dar andamento ao projeto? Eu tenho exatamente a mesma vontade, chega me assustei ao ver a ideia da flauta. Eu trabalho na área da reciclagem, fabricando facas para moinho e aglutinador e talvez poderíamos desenvolver o projeto juntos
@@jessevalentinramos8314 pois é já e uma ideia que tenho desde os 12 anos. Entre em contato. paulocabelo2@yahoo.com.br
@@paulhair6600 Mandei um e-mail para vc.
Very good technique and very useful. Thanks for uploading this video.
"Recycling plastics is too expensive."
Then there is this guy.
Fence posts and batons for farm fences. Instead of injecting into a mold try extruding onto water cooled parallel rollers and cutting to length while hot, self forming round posts in Continuous production. You could also add non compatible plastics as filler/aggregate that forms a sort of plastic concrete.
Welcome to a new Preshplastic video!
Jesse H. Phideo
Another thing Im going to need for my off grid homestead plan. This will make a great addition to the recycling centre. :)
Precious Plastic V4: Workshop made out of recycled plastic :D
Thanks dude, This vid help me a lot with a project I'm doing with a friend, Ur like a savior/hero for me and my friend, keep with the good work.
Il get right on this once i have a drill press and..all that other stuff🤣
Piers and docks made of plastic would be excellent.
May I ask you how do you know when the mold is already full?
I asked myself the same question.
The other end of the tube is open, so you can see when it is full.
From my experience working for a recycled plastic company we used open end molds and though our method was different, we cooled the molds in a tank of water below the injection machine and one way was to watch the water evaporate or dry out on the metal but best was to use "touch as the end or start would be warm enough you can touch to see where it is for length. I worked on the extrusion as well as shredding processors and drove the company truck to make local deliveries as needed for the owner.
the motor will load up and moan ;) you could also watch an ammeter to see when the current jumps up
We've been looking at different materials to use making geodesic domes. Short length spare in a controlled diameter round tube might be very promising.
I need your help, I work in surfing and diving club. And every year we throw hundreds of wetsuits into the trash. I always stand and look at the pile of bags full of wet suits, thinking about taking home and recycle alone. but I fear that I will be stuck with many suits and unable to return them to their original raw material. Is it possible to recycle Niaofriim? And I do not really want to make hundreds of cases for laptops like TH-cam suggests
If you work in a surfing & diving club, then you should know how to spell neoprene correctly.
You could try tho heat the suits gently, then force the material into a form, or into a pellet-maker, then you can sell it.
Stubbie/ Beer coolers mate!!!!
@@davioushardious5042 Head gaskets for hot days.
key is for them to be made in a way for the materials to be reclaimed non toxically ... start them doing that and many more things would be possible
We can use it with rainforced or sand greval or with glass fiber.
How do you get the machine?
A small company near me does this and makes ever-lasting decking boards. They use the waste product from a local bagging company. Unfortunately though, it's not cost effective as the effort to make these board is far more expensive than timber boards.
How to make a 2.4x1.2m (4x8') sheet ☺️
i want to know too
I guess you'd need a hot mold, I know that when they pour UPVC mouldings ( window frames etc..) The mold is pressurised . this could be achieved with weight but the mold would need to have some weight.
First, figure out shrink, then build the appropriately sized frame (2.45x1.25m, or something similar as a top of the head guess) which is warmed, flow plastic into it, and then put in a top plate and compress.
@@drackar Yep, only problem with that is, that sheet machine with heated bed like that costs thousands. Enought strong metal bed not to warp and heating elements(if you dont want to get fumehood or other safety issues) are alone allready pretty hi cost.
Awesome, Simple but much value for the result. 👍👍👍
If your mold was hot enough, the surface would be much smoother.
Awesome thank you for working to use wasted resources
Can you make flat pannels or maybe shingles with i??
Good idea!
I would check out the type of plastic first. As plastic doesn't bio degrade, it photo degrades in sunlight, roofing shingles may not be a good idea. Depends on the type of plastic though
Indy509 you can easy paint the things, thats my guess or perhaps add some uv aditive in the melting process to make it resistant to the uv light.
Nelson Di Salvatore.
Not a good idea for roofing massive fire risk just one wayward spark from a bonfire or a fire work and goodbye house
Problems with warping and lots of "creep" in hot weather as well
Great ideas ... more folk ( and industries ! ) should do this to help the HUGE dumping of used plastics ... any item that lives outdoors will never ROT ( use A2 / A4 stainless steel fastenings , of course ! ) ... maybe you might do a video on how to add dyes / pigments to change beam colour ( like from bright yellow scrap plastic to a brown " garden " shade ? ? ) ......
Is there any button more than like to press
Really appreciate ur effort
Here's a thought: Place a piston inside the tube, seal the other end with a fitting, then have a large container of water with a hose that goes down to the fitting. The pressure of the weight of the water will provide a constant force against the piston, holding the plastic back. The pressure can be easily set by changing how much water is in the tank. Does that make sense?
That's smart!
Geez dude you should build a factory and be a millionaire
Think how awesome you are now
You can add some other additives to make the plastic beams even stronger just like wood, something like cement or some resins of sort
I am an indian.what is the investment needed for extruding machines