Ik man. I'm wincing in pain. He should have countered them once they get their money back, their equity should have gone down to 10% collectively. So 30 % total upfront, then 10% total after returning the full 100k
@@danielcurtin619 idk about that one, but in the British version, apparently most (idk a percentage) of the deals don't even go through after the show. Just straight reality show trash. Not that I'm not addicted too
Don't worry, I didn't take the offer in the end. I wanted to know what the Peter and Duncan were going to do for their share, their reply was basically "we are the dragons" that wasn't enough for me so I politely declined their offer..
+organicsuperman It means the Dragons (the investors in the programme/show) wanted him to agree to investment simply because they were 'the Dragons'. Peter said that he needed sales, and in order to get sales he needed Peter - which wasn't an answer as to how exactly he was going to get him any sales. 8 times the original equity offer (bumped down to 6) was just madness.
Hope you are doing really well Chris ,you obviously have a very inventive mind guys like you keep the cogs turning in industry.Good luck for the future.
@junkeewu Hi, thanks for your comments, the POWER8 workshop is available for under £300 and contains 4 high quality cordless power tools with 2x 18V 1.7Ah battery packs. I think it represents the very best value and functionality for this kind of money. The sheet metal parts are 1.5mm Stainless, and I challenge anyone to break them or even dent them in normal use. we have never had a drill press break even after 50,000 unit sales. This product is squarely aimed at the DIY market.
Well said "Better to have a small piece of something large than a large piece of something small'.That box is GENIUS but the Dragons were right- dude is a designer, not a businessman.
This just shows the dragons invest in people and product That was a completely impenetrable ownership structure which they would have never touched from someone else. They have kicked people out for far less than that mess!
I like the way the inventor held his ground but I'm still trying to work out what's so unique about these products compared to what you can find at most DIY retail outlets.
There are many functions of that single box, so instead of having say 8 separate tools that take a lot of space, you only have one that can transform into other tools. I think it is actually quite a great product.
@@asdasd-ni8eg or for some people who only do light diy work you only need a weak circular saw etc... its like light versus heavy duty trucks, not everyone is going to need all that power just the basic function.
That was a very good pitch. I was mesmerised by your POWER8 kit. Smart, versatile and cordless. I hadn't realised you renegaded on the deal but you made it on your own. I don't know you personally but I am proud of you. Very well done - I like to Google products that appear on old Dragons Den videoes and saw one of your kits on eBay. I hope to afford this particular kit some day!!
Yeah considering these guys spend all day and night doing the nitty gritty on detail I'm surprised they were so flummoxed on the idea that there was seperate regions in this business.... and that he was actually giving them shares in the biggest elements of it.
This is where it went sideways for this. I bumped into this video while researching a purchase on one of these workshop kits. Whoever eventually got this going, they went for sales numbers with low credibility retail for cheaply made stuff - mostly infomercial and TV auction sites in the USA instead of traditionally respected tool retailers like Home Depot, Lowes, Sears or working with an established outfit for battery compatibility such as Ryobi or Ridgid which utilizes tools from other companies but the designs are shifted in order to take a standardized battery and then go through major retail chains like Home Depot and Amazon.
Peter Jones was patronising... "go back to your garage quietly " ... he meant well and his idea was sound. I feel he understood Chris's limits and his strengths. ..... Reading comments below I see the deal didn't go through. Was it not true that they could have moved you onto much bigger markets; therefore justifying their large slice and in effect negating the bigger/smaller argument?
The guy in this clip looks likes he's wearing a pair of those glasses from the joke shop, you know the kind with the big fake nose and tash? ...or he's a spy!
i love the power8 workshop( the upgraded blue version) been using it almost everyday for almost everything since i bought it a year ago. i thought it would take a while to ship to me in the us, but it arived in a week. my friends and family was so impressed with it last week. they been saving up to get it for themselves and for gifts. if more people would know about this product down here youll be a more richer man. california is the place you want to show this kind of product. for the price its well worth every peny. if i wouldve bought separately i wouldve spent double the amount of what i payed for this or more. oh and i also love the cart/work bench/dolley. yup i have to buy that too. hahahahah. thats what made the power a a whole complete system. seriously i can fo on and on with good reviews on this. this is one of the best investment i ever bought. my wife would say the same. she say finally i bought something that is handy and useful around the god damn house. hahhahah. yup. 2 thumbs up, a pat on the shoulder.you the man.ok.... now this is making me go look for more accessories for my power8 workshop.
@@jasonpotts6490 nope. But it would be nice for them to see this comment though so they can send me some free stuff lol. I still use it till this day. Only thing i really hope they do is add more battery so i can use it outdoor more longer
you maybe interested in our POWERhandle AC, it a product of ours that allows us to power all out product directly from the Mains. I think it makes our products the only cordless product than can be used directly from the mains or battery.
Chris I see the second gen batteries for the blue power head are higher amp are they useable in a first gen and if so how much for power handles both 1st and second gen as this would re boot earlier models as good second hand ones are pass hands for250. Plus with power handles that don't hold there charge
i only see it being good for minor home DIY works however if they manage to make a more robust and versatile unit for the construction it would be an excellent bit of kit wish him all the best
The dragons were pathetic. He was very clear about the company structure which wasn't complicated, he was very clear that he was offering them 5% of topco (Peter asking him whether he knows what a holding company is - he should have asked Theo and Deborah that question given how confused they declared themselves) and they were already planning to hive the IP rights into the topco. I particularly enjoyed when Peter said that they got him for 40% and assumed that everybody would automatically think that that was a great deal, this guy asked him to clarify what exactly he was offering, and Peter looked quite taken aback. Also, when Theo and Deborah declared themselves out because they thought this perfectly clear group structure was all too much for them, why are they so emotional, what is all the moral outrage about? I don't know what happened in this case, but I kept hoping that the MD would end up walking out of the negotiations and finding better investors.
@@billsmith8825 Not really. The syntax is a bit off. You're phrasing would be something around " I worked hard for my kid's inheritance money." Unless the kids have to earn the inheritance, then it would make more sense in that context.
No, it makes complete sense as is. As opposed to what you wrote, which took twice as many words and didn't match the flow of Theo's speech in the slightest.
Multi functional tool sets like this rarely gets used in the trade as they are not fit for purpose, nor robust enough. Good though for hobbyists because they don't know what their looking at, nor do they require durability as they're used in soft working environments .
Tony S that’s exactly what I was thinking but then I thought oh I’m not a tradesman or a construction worker so what the heck do I know lmao. Good to know someone else shares my opinion
@@DellaWatson-cz3mq Yeah but they were also suprised by a multi tool so I'm not holding much wait in their opinion on this. Just more crap for landfill. These companies survive because you still find the odd brand new b&d drill press stand in sheds. Buy it seems like a good idea at the time, never use it. Gets thrown out 30yrs later
I wish I was as smart as Christopher. Impressed! I am a non-religious spiritual artist but it attracts me to see such clever people who are not just good in their invention but also good in the business side of it all. I have my talents of art and design but have no idea about business. Christopher respects the value of his invention and the Dragons just see it as a money making venture. It would help if they realized that talent is priceless. I like the dragons, there is much to learn from them all but nothing is black and white they have their shades of grey. Christopher comes across also as very clear hearted/minded, that adds more value to his inventions. I feel, his inventions will always do well because they have good quality too. Of the little I have seen him here, it makes me believe that he is a perfectionist and would be able to deal with all his partners/shares etc., which the dragons believed was a chaotic idea. They forgot to read the man well- the reason he is doing all that is because he is capable of handling it all. Well done Christopher!
@@CELCNC thanks Christopher, you are welcome. Hope I could see what all have you invented, I am curious. Are you on Fb or have a website of your inventions? Thanks.
Very nice Christopher. Lovely colors and design, and it seems the functionality is wonderful too. It seems perfect for people who understand the need of the products. I can see more productive-creativity coming from you. You have my good wishes :) Seasons greetings, have a lovely festival season. Namaste
Hi Junkeewu, I was wondering if you have atually seen our product in the flesh, as a lot of your comments are incorrect. If your were wanting to spend more on the set and not one "build down to a price", then may I suggest you keep your eyes open for our Pro range which should be realeased in the next few months.
Yeah so basically I own 2.5% of this bit, this this guy over there owns 6.076% plus the square root of pi X 1 divided by 5 and oh yeah those guys over in that country just own 10 of this thing, but ooo i forgot all of us own 99.0567% of this big company thing over in uhhh that country, so anyway £150,000 quid for 5% what ya say?! :-s
Theres nothing new about the tools, the multifunction tool has been around for years, and unless they are good trade quality tools,(which I doubt by the look of them) it would be hard to compete with the several huge multinational companies who make power tools, including chinese brands. The only thing unique is the case/workbench thing but even that looks cheap and made of plastic, it wouldn't be used by tradesmen. Might be ok for the home hobbyist but any half serious hobbyest would have a drill press. Looks like a cheap gimmick to me. I doubt many people would buy the tools just to get that plastic box thing.
its exactly as you said for hobbyists etc. you can buy this for all the functions to make little things or cosplay stuff, etc since you dont need a full duty diy setup
"feels like a toy" Have you had a go with one? Please use one before you judge. Saying that, I can understand your point of view, as I've mentioned before, for the price you really are getting the very best value for money. If you are a Pro user, your proberly used to speding a lot more on tools. We are currently developing a Pro version which will compete against the Brands you mention.
I understand you didn't want to give away to much of your company but I think with peter jones you missed a trick he is renowned to help get people going his track record is better then any of them in staying the course
I really hope it is a true professional system because after 33 years using power tools I do mean well and it would be great to have a British product that can truly hold its own in the real world on the job site. P.S how about making a circular saw that can be quickly swapped from left to right handed so we can all see the cut line easily? ( Nobody else seems to have tackled that one) :)
Power is fine but it's just one factor... A tradesman is looking for something that will survive a drop from 6ft, a battery that still holds it's charge after 12mths and one that doesn't die if you leave it overnight on site or in a freezing cold van. A tradesman needs tools with good torque, precise speed control, robust clips on batteries, rugged connectors to guides and accessories and for the controls to not be flimsy or fiddly. They also need to know that spares can be bought for that tool (brushes/batteries/keys/blades etc) for at least the average lifetime of their ownership (say 3yrs) They also need to know that spares will be available from multiple vendors and not just direct from a manufacturer. If I need a part or accessory I want to pick one up from the trade centre or at least a designated service centre who is holding stock that is available next day by courier or same day at the counter If it doesn't do those things then it's a hobby tool and if it's a hobby tool its a fickle market. Home users will buy cheap on the expectation that they will only need it once or will expect to buy another cheap replacement in 18mths. If your tool is just a hobbyist diy level level tool then you will be subject to the vagueries of supply and demand, marketing and price and all of your unique, novelty or patent-able clever features will be wasted I admire british entrepreneurship and invention. We are great at inventing stuff. In my view we will never compete on price with kit coming in from the PRC and should instead be targeting the rolls-royce end of the market like the German's do... We should avoid trying to give people a 12-in-one tool for £200 and instead, produce the BEST 12 tools You undoubtedly have the technical ability to design the best tools so don't waste that talent trying to be the Deal of the day on QVC
@@TheComputec I agree with you. Your speech was very motivational and somewhat patriotic. I think Great Britain has forgotten it's prestigious roots when it comes to inventiveness and has become much too focused on the competitive nature that has been popularised by the likes of America and China. Designing products to be cheaply made and mass-produced, just so they will be replaced on the occasional-basis, has turned them into a life-long subscription model for so many of our items.
You want to be the most powerful not one of. I have dewalt tools and I have not found any 18v cordless drill or impact driver more powerful and with so much torque
The structure is fairly straight forward and well explained. No idea what all the fuss is about. He is offering a stake in the holding company so what’s the issue
$300 on ebay, for a VINTAGE one working with all tools included. VINTAGE....my gosh, and this is the first time I ever saw it. Lemme tell you guys, I'm headed towards buying one, because the drill press and table saw are absolutely perfect for me. The few occasions that I really need those every year, would be completely satisfied here. How much more would these cost to be made anywhere but China?
Honestly what a great product but Chris shouldn't of pulled out of the deal this company wouldn't of done a lot better with the two dragons but however best of luck, I like the products.
I think its great for handymen to! It is fabulous! How old is this episode. I've never seen this product. Just found it on Amazon for $1670.00. 1 star. Ratings say trash. 😞
LOL, I think your missing my point too Example;the new PRO version of the circular saw has a 1000w 4pole motor, 3.2Ah Li-ion batteries(all our Li-ion packs have Overload/heat protection) and a fully ball raced gearbox. This saw alone, when on sale, will be over £300, but you can currently pick up a complete POWER8 for the same money. Im just trying to make the point that for the Money you get the best possible quality and value, and for most consumers it more than enough power and functionality.
I have watched videos about your power8 product all morning and will be buying one hopefully by February next year :) amazing product and I hope to be a happy costumer :)
It's a nice too from a first glimpse, but I assume that it can't compete with other quality brands out there. Just looked up some rewiews, which seen to confirm. Actually a shame, because the idea is good - not the quality needs to match. Maybe there is a Rev.2 by now?
I'm no DIY man, but that box looks cool!
@Gabriel Ravi ownership was pretty straightforward for a worldwide businesses
I agree!!
Absolutely agree!
The show where 5% equity becomes 40% in 2 minutes.
Andre reiu
Ik man. I'm wincing in pain.
He should have countered them once they get their money back, their equity should have gone down to 10% collectively. So 30 % total upfront, then 10% total after returning the full 100k
You should watch the Canadian one! They counter an offer of 10%, for 75% 🙃 They literally bleed the people dry.
@@danielcurtin619 idk about that one, but in the British version, apparently most (idk a percentage) of the deals don't even go through after the show. Just straight reality show trash. Not that I'm not addicted too
Don't worry, I didn't take the offer in the end. I wanted to know what the Peter and Duncan were going to do for their share, their reply was basically "we are the dragons" that wasn't enough for me so I politely declined their offer..
+C Enterprise hope your ambitions worked out in the end
+Wom Bat
most of people only goes there for the media exposure. it is free ad. so don't be surprised that they decline deals in the end
so you didn't take the offer even though you agreed?
Good bit of exposure anyway
+organicsuperman It means the Dragons (the investors in the programme/show) wanted him to agree to investment simply because they were 'the Dragons'. Peter said that he needed sales, and in order to get sales he needed Peter - which wasn't an answer as to how exactly he was going to get him any sales.
8 times the original equity offer (bumped down to 6) was just madness.
Hope you are doing really well Chris ,you obviously have a very inventive mind guys like you keep the cogs turning in industry.Good luck for the future.
free 15 min tv ad.....well done....i live in spain and want to buy one
Wow! At the end there, he had both Peter and Duncan in total suspense, sitting on the edge of their seats. Nicely played sir!
@junkeewu
Hi, thanks for your comments, the POWER8 workshop is available for under £300 and contains 4 high quality cordless power tools with 2x 18V 1.7Ah battery packs. I think it represents the very best value and functionality for this kind of money.
The sheet metal parts are 1.5mm Stainless, and I challenge anyone to break them or even dent them in normal use. we have never had a drill press break even after 50,000 unit sales. This product is squarely aimed at the DIY market.
Your Box is absolutely fantastic!
You actually didn’t want an investment you were just advertising your product for you and your team
Y’all have really come a long way! Wow! So glad to see your company flourish.
Brilliant bit of kit, I was blown away by how it all went together. This guy is a genius.
You said you are not a businessman or something on those lines but you are an excellent negotiator.
Well said "Better to have a small piece of something large than a large piece of something small'.That box is GENIUS but the Dragons were right- dude is a designer, not a businessman.
This just shows the dragons invest in people and product
That was a completely impenetrable ownership structure which they would have never touched from someone else.
They have kicked people out for far less than that mess!
I like the way the inventor held his ground but I'm still trying to work out what's so unique about these products compared to what you can find at most DIY retail outlets.
There are many functions of that single box, so instead of having say 8 separate tools that take a lot of space, you only have one that can transform into other tools. I think it is actually quite a great product.
Well maybe you should pay attention then.
Keep in mind this was in 2010, I'm not sure it's so unique now though
Generally you can do many things poorly or 1 thing good this is an overpriced stocking stuffer for people who will use it once.
@@asdasd-ni8eg or for some people who only do light diy work you only need a weak circular saw etc... its like light versus heavy duty trucks, not everyone is going to need all that power just the basic function.
Thanks!
We've come a long way since this was filmed, we now have a world leading 3D printer (www.CEL-Robox.com)
That was a very good pitch. I was mesmerised by your POWER8 kit. Smart, versatile and cordless. I hadn't realised you renegaded on the deal but you made it on your own. I don't know you personally but I am proud of you. Very well done - I like to Google products that appear on old Dragons Den videoes and saw one of your kits on eBay. I hope to afford this particular kit some day!!
I can't wait for you to bring your sagely 3D Printing know-how out of your parents' basement to give CEL a run for its money!
Product designer you are a FOOl not taking the offer!!
@Eddie Turbine There are so many a-holes that think they know better.
@Eddie Turbine he did go with the dragons right?
The company structure was actually pretty straightforward, I honestly don't what they're complaining about.
Yeah considering these guys spend all day and night doing the nitty gritty on detail I'm surprised they were so flummoxed on the idea that there was seperate regions in this business.... and that he was actually giving them shares in the biggest elements of it.
This is where it went sideways for this. I bumped into this video while researching a purchase on one of these workshop kits. Whoever eventually got this going, they went for sales numbers with low credibility retail for cheaply made stuff - mostly infomercial and TV auction sites in the USA instead of traditionally respected tool retailers like Home Depot, Lowes, Sears or working with an established outfit for battery compatibility such as Ryobi or Ridgid which utilizes tools from other companies but the designs are shifted in order to take a standardized battery and then go through major retail chains like Home Depot and Amazon.
What a great creative product, taking DIY to the next level
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Really clever bloke.
Peter Jones was patronising... "go back to your garage quietly " ... he meant well and his idea was sound. I feel he understood Chris's limits and his strengths. ..... Reading comments below I see the deal didn't go through. Was it not true that they could have moved you onto much bigger markets; therefore justifying their large slice and in effect negating the bigger/smaller argument?
That there is some nice ingenuity, and it's nice to see and read you stuck to your guns.
i own a Power8 Workshop and i have to say its brilliant
What a fantastic product,made to use so simply.
One of the most useful products I have seen in the den.
The guy in this clip looks likes he's wearing a pair of those glasses from the joke shop, you know the kind with the big fake nose and tash? ...or he's a spy!
LOL
James Badger shut it you
I keep thinking that every time I see the thumbnail for this video.
a genius
he is wearing it duh
clever man and good inventor. and most amazingly a kind and calm person. i wish he will go to the top.
Yes, he is great and fair.
You have to admit, that even if they don’t get investments, dragons den is still a free tv advert
i love the power8 workshop( the upgraded blue version) been using it almost everyday for almost everything since i bought it a year ago. i thought it would take a while to ship to me in the us, but it arived in a week. my friends and family was so impressed with it last week. they been saving up to get it for themselves and for gifts. if more people would know about this product down here youll be a more richer man. california is the place you want to show this kind of product. for the price its well worth every peny. if i wouldve bought separately i wouldve spent double the amount of what i payed for this or more. oh and i also love the cart/work bench/dolley. yup i have to buy that too. hahahahah. thats what made the power a a whole complete system. seriously i can fo on and on with good reviews on this. this is one of the best investment i ever bought. my wife would say the same. she say finally i bought something that is handy and useful around the god damn house. hahhahah. yup. 2 thumbs up, a pat on the shoulder.you the man.ok.... now this is making me go look for more accessories for my power8 workshop.
Do you work for them?
@@jasonpotts6490 nope. But it would be nice for them to see this comment though so they can send me some free stuff lol. I still use it till this day. Only thing i really hope they do is add more battery so i can use it outdoor more longer
Very talented guy. products were amazing
pmarmify agreed
Still haven't seen these tools for sale, as good as they looked.
you maybe interested in our POWERhandle AC, it a product of ours that allows us to power all out product directly from the Mains. I think it makes our products the only cordless product than can be used directly from the mains or battery.
Chris I see the second gen batteries for the blue power head are higher amp are they useable in a first gen and if so how much for power handles both 1st and second gen as this would re boot earlier models as good second hand ones are pass hands for250. Plus with power handles that don't hold there charge
21st Century B&D Workmate springs immediately to mind. I want one.
Not yet, still working extremely hard. My latest invention is a easy to use, 3D printer. Called robox
How did you end up mate?
Wt a fukn geeza... Well pitched, well handled, true product, well deserved... True legend..
i only see it being good for minor home DIY works however if they manage to make a more robust and versatile unit for the construction it would be an excellent bit of kit wish him all the best
@Jez2008UK thanks for your kind words. very much appreciated.
I agree, well done with your contacts all around the world too.
This is awesome. I'd definitely buy one
Great invention. Awful tash.
The dragons were pathetic. He was very clear about the company structure which wasn't complicated, he was very clear that he was offering them 5% of topco (Peter asking him whether he knows what a holding company is - he should have asked Theo and Deborah that question given how confused they declared themselves) and they were already planning to hive the IP rights into the topco. I particularly enjoyed when Peter said that they got him for 40% and assumed that everybody would automatically think that that was a great deal, this guy asked him to clarify what exactly he was offering, and Peter looked quite taken aback. Also, when Theo and Deborah declared themselves out because they thought this perfectly clear group structure was all too much for them, why are they so emotional, what is all the moral outrage about? I don't know what happened in this case, but I kept hoping that the MD would end up walking out of the negotiations and finding better investors.
Finally somebody who understands the situation correctly.
"Kid's hard-earned inheritance."
haha what a fail mashup of phrases.
Not really. He worked hard to earn his kid's inheritance.
@@billsmith8825 Not really. The syntax is a bit off. You're phrasing would be something around " I worked hard for my kid's inheritance money."
Unless the kids have to earn the inheritance, then it would make more sense in that context.
No, it makes complete sense as is. As opposed to what you wrote, which took twice as many words and didn't match the flow of Theo's speech in the slightest.
@@GoodArtorias Nonsensical rambling
@@billsmith8825 He should probably stop giving it away though lmao
This guy, Chris, seems to be almost as tall as Peter Jones..... ALMOST.
They say Chris Elsworthy is 6'8", Peter Jones is 'only' 6'7"!
The man is the business, big Pet, recognised this
Has any1 noticed that the Dragons stay silent when the guy talks about the Dragons and the inventor
James Caan is charisma personified.
When are you bringing it to the philippines
thats an incredible piece of kit. britain is amazing for simplifying and making it into a great product.
Multi functional tool sets like this rarely gets used in the trade as they are not fit for purpose, nor robust enough.
Good though for hobbyists because they don't know what their looking at, nor do they require durability as they're used in soft working environments .
Can't imagine using that table saw or drill press at all. Looks like plastic rubbish
Tony S that’s exactly what I was thinking but then I thought oh I’m not a tradesman or a construction worker so what the heck do I know lmao. Good to know someone else shares my opinion
The dragons are saying its great. I don't know
@@DellaWatson-cz3mq
Yeah but they were also suprised by a multi tool so I'm not holding much wait in their opinion on this.
Just more crap for landfill.
These companies survive because you still find the odd brand new b&d drill press stand in sheds.
Buy it seems like a good idea at the time, never use it.
Gets thrown out 30yrs later
CEL - Check Engine Light?
He did pretty well for a guy who claimed he's not an entrepreneur.
Why has he underlined his nose.
One of the worst mas-touches i ve ever seen.
I wish I was as smart as Christopher. Impressed! I am a non-religious spiritual artist but it attracts me to see such clever people who are not just good in their invention but also good in the business side of it all. I have my talents of art and design but have no idea about business. Christopher respects the value of his invention and the Dragons just see it as a money making venture. It would help if they realized that talent is priceless. I like the dragons, there is much to learn from them all but nothing is black and white they have their shades of grey. Christopher comes across also as very clear hearted/minded, that adds more value to his inventions. I feel, his inventions will always do well because they have good quality too. Of the little I have seen him here, it makes me believe that he is a perfectionist and would be able to deal with all his partners/shares etc., which the dragons believed was a chaotic idea. They forgot to read the man well- the reason he is doing all that is because he is capable of handling it all. Well done Christopher!
Abhinav Vats AV your very kind...
@@CELCNC thanks Christopher, you are welcome. Hope I could see what all have you invented, I am curious. Are you on Fb or have a website of your inventions? Thanks.
Abhinav Vats AV yes;
www.cel-Robox.com
Www.cel-uk.com
q5dtech.com/
These are all my work!
Have a great Christmas!
Very nice Christopher. Lovely colors and design, and it seems the functionality is wonderful too. It seems perfect for people who understand the need of the products. I can see more productive-creativity coming from you. You have my good wishes :) Seasons greetings, have a lovely festival season.
Namaste
Hi Junkeewu,
I was wondering if you have atually seen our product in the flesh, as a lot of your comments are incorrect. If your were wanting to spend more on the set and not one "build down to a price", then may I suggest you keep your eyes open for our Pro range which should be realeased in the next few months.
impressed by that pillar drill lol
Really enjoyed this !
Yeah so basically I own 2.5% of this bit, this this guy over there owns 6.076% plus the square root of pi X 1 divided by 5 and oh yeah those guys over in that country just own 10 of this thing, but ooo i forgot all of us own 99.0567% of this big company thing over in uhhh that country, so anyway £150,000 quid for 5% what ya say?! :-s
Yaz Khan they said yes!
Yaz Khan hahaha, thanks for clearing it up for me.
haha! you made me smile today! - :)
So what happened since? Still in business with the dragons or was it only for the show? You seem genuinely nice and kind man
thaTS A GREAT PIECE OF DESIGN
Theres nothing new about the tools, the multifunction tool has been around for years, and unless they are good trade quality tools,(which I doubt by the look of them) it would be hard to compete with the several huge multinational companies who make power tools, including chinese brands. The only thing unique is the case/workbench thing but even that looks cheap and made of plastic, it wouldn't be used by tradesmen. Might be ok for the home hobbyist but any half serious hobbyest would have a drill press. Looks like a cheap gimmick to me. I doubt many people would buy the tools just to get that plastic box thing.
I'd love to send these over to AvE for a BOLTR
@@fluke196c Definitely not a skookum choocher.
its exactly as you said for hobbyists etc. you can buy this for all the functions to make little things or cosplay stuff, etc since you dont need a full duty diy setup
wow 3 hours of grilling, I guess the dragons really wanted that one.
"feels like a toy" Have you had a go with one? Please use one before you judge.
Saying that, I can understand your point of view, as I've mentioned before, for the price you really are getting the very best value for money. If you are a Pro user, your proberly used to speding a lot more on tools. We are currently developing a Pro version which will compete against the Brands you mention.
This peoples are no Dragons, this peoples are Sharks!!
I understand you didn't want to give away to much of your company but I think with peter jones you missed a trick he is renowned to help get people going his track record is better then any of them in staying the course
How many of them have off shore accounts?
Great product glad your doing well
I need this in my life!
Was he taller than Peter?!?!?
That thing looks awesome!
I really hope it is a true professional system because after 33 years using power tools I do mean well and it would be great to have a British product that can truly hold its own in the real world on the job site.
P.S how about making a circular saw that can be quickly swapped from left to right handed so we can all see the cut line easily? ( Nobody else seems to have tackled that one) :)
That "thank you Theo" sounded like a threat 😂
It is, tash man is a secret driller killer
😂🤣😂🤣😂 love the comments lol 😝
Have you tried our pro saw? One of the most powerful 18v saws in the market!
nice woks guys. How is business? what numbers are you guys doing?
^corporate spy detected
Power is fine but it's just one factor... A tradesman is looking for something that will survive a drop from 6ft, a battery that still holds it's charge after 12mths and one that doesn't die if you leave it overnight on site or in a freezing cold van. A tradesman needs tools with good torque, precise speed control, robust clips on batteries, rugged connectors to guides and accessories and for the controls to not be flimsy or fiddly.
They also need to know that spares can be bought for that tool (brushes/batteries/keys/blades etc) for at least the average lifetime of their ownership (say 3yrs)
They also need to know that spares will be available from multiple vendors and not just direct from a manufacturer. If I need a part or accessory I want to pick one up from the trade centre or at least a designated service centre who is holding stock that is available next day by courier or same day at the counter
If it doesn't do those things then it's a hobby tool and if it's a hobby tool its a fickle market. Home users will buy cheap on the expectation that they will only need it once or will expect to buy another cheap replacement in 18mths. If your tool is just a hobbyist diy level level tool then you will be subject to the vagueries of supply and demand, marketing and price and all of your unique, novelty or patent-able clever features will be wasted
I admire british entrepreneurship and invention. We are great at inventing stuff. In my view we will never compete on price with kit coming in from the PRC and should instead be targeting the rolls-royce end of the market like the German's do... We should avoid trying to give people a 12-in-one tool for £200 and instead, produce the BEST 12 tools
You undoubtedly have the technical ability to design the best tools so don't waste that talent trying to be the Deal of the day on QVC
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I agree with you. Your speech was very motivational and somewhat patriotic.
I think Great Britain has forgotten it's prestigious roots when it comes to inventiveness and has become much too focused on the competitive nature that has been popularised by the likes of America and China.
Designing products to be cheaply made and mass-produced, just so they will be replaced on the occasional-basis, has turned them into a life-long subscription model for so many of our items.
You want to be the most powerful not one of. I have dewalt tools and I have not found any 18v cordless drill or impact driver more powerful and with so much torque
i feel like i watching mortal kombat listening to the music
Do Peter Jones and Duncan Bannatyne get on?
The structure is fairly straight forward and well explained. No idea what all the fuss is about. He is offering a stake in the holding company so what’s the issue
That was a great negotiation
Why did none of them say “I want to drill a little deeper into your numbers”?
$300 on ebay, for a VINTAGE one working with all tools included.
VINTAGE....my gosh, and this is the first time I ever saw it.
Lemme tell you guys, I'm headed towards buying one, because the drill press and table saw are absolutely perfect for me. The few occasions that I really need those every year, would be completely satisfied here. How much more would these cost to be made anywhere but China?
Honestly what a great product but Chris shouldn't of pulled out of the deal this company wouldn't of done a lot better with the two dragons but however best of luck, I like the products.
I think its great for handymen to! It is fabulous! How old is this episode. I've never seen this product. Just found it on Amazon for $1670.00. 1 star. Ratings say trash. 😞
Only real problem I see is POWER8 is an IBM trademark.
I would love to have that box!
I wish I had a product and I was shaking hands with Duncan and Peter that's my dream I wud die happy
That looks super cool
Brilliant! This is ideal for my requirements due to limited space, now let's find out how much and where can I purchase it from!
www.cel-uk.com/shop-category/power-tools/power8workshop/
a very good idea, great product
awesome product!, although is the saw safe while your cutting? the box seems a little small
this is what dragons den should get more of, great inventors rather than salesmen
Phenomenal design.
Fukin hell he's as tall as Peter Jones didn't realise till the end
LOL, I think your missing my point too
Example;the new PRO version of the circular saw has a 1000w 4pole motor, 3.2Ah Li-ion batteries(all our Li-ion packs have Overload/heat protection) and a fully ball raced gearbox. This saw alone, when on sale, will be over £300, but you can currently pick up a complete POWER8 for the same money.
Im just trying to make the point that for the Money you get the best possible quality and value, and for most consumers it more than enough power and functionality.
I have watched videos about your power8 product all morning and will be buying one hopefully by February next year :) amazing product and I hope to be a happy costumer :)
There is a Hong Kong company nearby my house! I should get this things!:)
*CLICK! CLACK!* That was like the suit up scene from Commando.
I enjoyed Dragons Den
Wait so any offer he took technically wouldn't have been of "his company" as it was for the BVI company of which he owned nothing?
HE DID VERY WELL , it reached the caribbean countries ..i saw one yesterday , but i'm too poor to by one
Thanks Ali
How have things gone for you?
It's a nice too from a first glimpse, but I assume that it can't compete with other quality brands out there. Just looked up some rewiews, which seen to confirm. Actually a shame, because the idea is good - not the quality needs to match. Maybe there is a Rev.2 by now?
thanks.
good luck , looks like great kit to me
that guy is an effin genius--the best most inventive product ever on DD ...