WHAT IS PERSONA? | First time reaction to ALL of the Persona Openings (1996-2024)

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  • @meddios
    @meddios 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2009

    *Persona summoning*
    P5: Taking off the mask, revealing the true colors
    P4: Breaking tarot cards, rejecting fate
    P3: "When the beat drops, I'm gonna fucking kill myself" (quote from Cruelty squad)

    • @manupm9161
      @manupm9161 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      How is it done in Persona 1 and 2?

    • @38achref26
      @38achref26 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you summon them like a stand in real world@@manupm9161

    • @Animechargeblog
      @Animechargeblog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +144

      In P3 is about accepting death without fear of it.

    • @meddios
      @meddios 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      @@manupm9161 never played, so can't tell. I read somewhere that they were sort of spinoffs or something to Shin Megami Tensei. Also since P1&2 are old I assume they just summoned them without any gimmicks, could be wrong though

    • @beo3828
      @beo3828 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

      @@Animechargeblog the base explanation is that you literally give yourself "trauma" by simulating suicide, this releassing your persona. But yeah, ultimately I believe the characters learn to summon their Persona without the gun. It's been a while.

  • @bipolarbear3914
    @bipolarbear3914 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +216

    "I've never played a persona game, but I grew up playing digital devil saga and really want a remake" is such an unbelievably based sentence

  • @britton5888
    @britton5888 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1084

    "I don't recognize the characters in this one" -georgie, seeing the P3 cast for the seventh time

    • @casualpotato44
      @casualpotato44 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

      Can't fault her. It's info overload after info overload.
      P3 is my personal favorite and yeah, their design don't really stand out much on their own. Definitely hard to recognize them at that point without them pointing guns to their heads. Lol.

    • @tylorhobbs8920
      @tylorhobbs8920 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@casualpotato44 Especially since while P4 and P5 just get spammed after they get introduced, P3 projects get two on release, and then they get sprinkled in here and there. So repetition doesn't have the chance to really kick in for a while.

    • @donglegs
      @donglegs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      ​@@casualpotato44 The P3 intros also don't give the individual characters the same space as P2 and P4. Weird use of colour in both the original and some of Dancing in Starlight, lack of faces etc, then there's just loads going on in the FES intro with the action and gameplay. P4 slows down and purposely introduces everyone one by one, especially Golden.

    • @RandomGuy0803
      @RandomGuy0803 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's probably since they weren't sho*ting themselves in the head

  • @leurunner4764
    @leurunner4764 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1133

    Every Persona game usually has it's own theme. Persona 3 has timelife and death, persona 4 has truth, lies misconception and illusion, and so on.

    • @MasiPT
      @MasiPT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +260

      Persona 5 about freedom, rebellion and overcoming the prison of modern society

    • @axhgro28
      @axhgro28 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      We don't talk about persona 1 and 2

    • @thomas9208
      @thomas9208 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +235

      @@axhgro28 Persona 1 has the broadest theme in the series but as a whole it is about finding the strength to face the world and as well as some ruminations on nihilism.
      Persona 2 is about making mistakes and then becoming a stronger person by facing those mistakes and dealing with the fallout and regret they caused, hence the subtitles Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment. There is also a theme about the power of words and how rumors can create false perceptions of reality.

    • @jethiliusavalar6449
      @jethiliusavalar6449 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I don't understand why in every main title the persona rules change (not including the first and persona 2 duology). Specifically the awakenings and summonings.

    • @SyLuX636
      @SyLuX636 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Each new one gets softer and happier, which cause a civil war / division between the fanbase. Nothing really bad happens in 4 and 5 that affect the characters, which is why I say Persona nowadays is all flashy and no substance.

  • @Polymathically
    @Polymathically 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +341

    20 years ago, I was a game reviewer. One day, I was assigned Persona 3. None of us on the staff seemed to care about it; it was just another in a long line of PS2 RPGs. Persona was still relatively obscure back then. Atlus mailed me a pre-release build in a simple envelope, nothing fancy. I went in expecting something tedious and derivative, and I was instantly blown away. The PS2 was basically a JRPG console; there were so many different franchises vying for players' attention and money, so it was difficult to stand out. Atlus focused on what it does best: characters' interpersonal relationships, a contemporary setting, excellent voice acting, stylish art design, and an absolutely killer soundtrack. I knew they were on to something huge. So when Atlus notified me that an early review copy of Persona 4 was ready, I immediately jumped for it. I was lucky enough to be one of the first Western reviewers to cover it. Since then, it's been incredible to see the Persona series take off and become what it is today. I walked away from the game industry a decade ago, but I know I'll play P5R someday. I'd love to write more about the games here, but I don't want to spoil anything.

    • @superwolf1515
      @superwolf1515 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      You’ll like P5R and that’s a sick job you had

    • @kt249
      @kt249 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      are you the one who reviewed p3 in a gaming media when it came out? I remember reading a review of P3 that started exactly like your comment.

    • @JeriSijabat
      @JeriSijabat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The persona 3 is cool of dark theme but try persona 4 definitely worth it

  • @-cavolo-
    @-cavolo- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +604

    I think Persona 4's openings and aesthetics are a little easier to appreciate once you realize that it's main themes are about misinformation and perception, and the openings reflect that by seeming very cheerful and bright despite the game really being quite dark and twisted at times.
    Not to say it isn't also happy and fun during other times.

    • @anusaukko6792
      @anusaukko6792 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

      Persona 4 is the most ''grounded angst'' in the series imo, the stakes are high enough that people are pretty clearly in danger, but also not too high to be silly (its only a serial killer afterall!) this is discounting True Ending though where it goes full Persona again.

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Oh yeah it def has that darkness, seeing as it shows corpses multiple times in the opening lol
      Same for P5, which is even darker than P4.

    • @VikTimmy
      @VikTimmy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@anusaukko6792 P4 is just Scooby Doo the Video Game and it would be difficult to convince me otherwise.

    • @FlipzMCL
      @FlipzMCL 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@VikTimmy Personally, I'd agree but amend it to "If Scooby-Doo had actual, tangible consequences". P4 is unusually upbeat and cheery for a Persona game, but when it actually decides to get real, it gets _real,_ you know?

    • @Waylorn
      @Waylorn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Haha, I was laughing when she said "I'm not getting a lot of angst from this one" in Persona 4 Golden when she just saw 3 dead bodies. But yeah, plays into the perception theme. Upbeat, happy, dead bodies, all good.

  • @DD-ut9cc
    @DD-ut9cc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +355

    The butterfly thing isn't to do with time travel but a different idea. That quote at the beginning is meant to be taken semi-literally, in the dream he thought he was a butterfly but when he woke up he knew it was a dream but how does he know he is not still dreaming? That's the idea, "How do you know what you are perceiving is reality?", how do you know you're not currently dreaming, believing what you're seeing is real?
    Butterflies also have symbolic meaning in japanese culture I won't talk about because I don't quite understand it.

    • @taznkid1730
      @taznkid1730 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      The butterflies are like spirits of the deceased or something along those lines. That is why you also see, for example, Hell Butterflies in Bleach i assume.

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      The symbolism comes from Chinese culture actually. Japan just took it cuz they took a LOT from China lol

    • @genten34
      @genten34 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      The meaning is correct.
      This is a theory from the ancient Chinese philosophical book Zhuangzi.

    • @devildante9
      @devildante9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@ma.2089 That's like saying we took all our symbolism from Greece and Rome, even the memento mori motif from P3. Philosophy is shared and enhanced by being developed by other cultures, is not "taken" as you ever so delightfully put it, philistine.

    • @TheOneGreat
      @TheOneGreat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      The butterfly is Philemon (a deity) from Persona 1. Through him you get access to the Velvet Room and Igor (his servant) in every game.

  • @kazutogamer1870
    @kazutogamer1870 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +461

    To clear this up, Persona 1 to 2 is more like SMT in gameplay and style while P3 - 5 all are different in style and tone, where P3 to 5 is based on a gameplay style of going to school living life normaly, scheduling yourself, going to school, extra curicullar activity, studying, normal life, while being interweived with a rather devastating phenomemon and a common theme of identity, rebellion to society, and for persona 3 understanding death as a word and philosophically. P3 to 5 also use a modified version of the original SMT press turn battle system, while having persona where the main character can fuse and use different personas. Most important is the P3 to 5 are all edgy, in different ways, not to spoil the themes for the games just a hint, P3 = death, P4 = acceptance, P5 = Taking stand against society.
    Note: all persona games are not connected to each other, they have spin offs but they have no connection to each others stories or endings, although they have references feo, past games only reference with no plot or story importance.
    Note: Persona games is a pure JRPG game made for JRPG games which means grind, character lv individually, texts box heavy, story heavy, but if you liek stories these length will not matter.

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

      Ok this is a GREAT summary to help me understand thank you! I did feel that 1 and 2 were more of the SMT vibe, but I am interested in 3, 4 and 5 to see how atlus handles that day to day aspect of the characters lives and how that could tie into a story! thanks for the summary thats great!

    • @pmintertek
      @pmintertek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      > Persona 1 to 2 is more like SMT in gameplay and style while P3 - 5 all are different in style and tone
      That is such a strange opinion. Persona 1 and 2 is far more different from SMT games of the era in either gameplay or style than P3-P5 compared to something like SMT3-SMT5. Sure, dating sim being half of modern Persona is set it apart from older games but I would say it sets it apart from any other JRPG

    • @phntmthf5505
      @phntmthf5505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      P3P actually *does* have a bit where two of the P4 girls appear, but I don’t believe that any other direct character appearances have happened for 3-5.

    • @kazutogamer1870
      @kazutogamer1870 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@phntmthf5505 that fact I can agree with, and I will say it is rather great as a scene, although they are still only for fans as they do not have a true connection to the plot

    • @trots4940
      @trots4940 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Spoiler for Persona 4
      .
      P3, P4 and P5 actually take place in the same universe (and probably country) cannonically, the only differences are the timelines (P3 == 2007/2008 or something. P4 == 2011/2012. P5 == probably 2015/2016) and their stories.
      In P4 they go to the city where P3 takes place and even meet Makoto's school, its principal and Chihiro.
      In P5 Adachi and the murder cases occurred in Inaba are mentioned on the TV in a certain day, and Rise appears on some screens in Shibuya's Subway.
      So they're connected, their stories just are not affected by the other games stuff.
      And IIRC, Persona 4 fighting games are cannon

  • @dekucake
    @dekucake 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

    I love how, during the Persona Q intro, she kept assuming it was another P4 game, completely ignoring all the Persona 3 characters and not realizing it was a crossover lmao.

    • @bazz2k_755
      @bazz2k_755 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      bro i was tweaking the whole video she ignored all the important moment

    • @rhettmitchell
      @rhettmitchell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      How is she gonna know if she doesn’t know the characters lol

    • @VelvetAura
      @VelvetAura 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@rhettmitchell I think it's more the fact that she has the (good) habit of looking at the camera a lot when she talks, but it sometimes seems to cause her to miss details that I see other reactors catch onto. I still enjoyed the reaction personally but I did notice that lol

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@rhettmitchell she noticed some of them. She also missed the butterflies in the later entries too, and thought it as a P1-2 thing. So it’s not really about not recognizing the cast since they showed up in FES, for example.

    • @anon3600
      @anon3600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Seen different reactions and they also missed that detail lol

  • @CassiusStelar
    @CassiusStelar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +428

    Persona is a spin off of the Megami Tensei series. Contrary to popular belief, it does not fall under the *shin* megami tensei brand, which only exists in the west as the title of the mainline megaten entries, but it does indeed contain iconic demons from the overall megaten franchise both as enemies and equippable personas.

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

      oh I see! ok that makes sense, I know sometimes things can be named differently in the west as well! thanks for the clarification! cool to know the demons cross over tho that's so cool!

    • @leurunner4764
      @leurunner4764 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Well, the first one is an exception, which is why it's literally called:"Shin Megami Tensei: Persona".

    • @CassiusStelar
      @CassiusStelar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​​@@leurunner4764 the first one is called "revelations persona"
      You're thinking of P2 Innocent Sin maybe? It was in the video
      Edit: just looked at wikipedia, the first one had that name in the PSP rerelease

    • @mystrenula3911
      @mystrenula3911 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      ​@@leurunner4764technically the first persona was called megami ibunroku which if I'm not mistaken translates to "a different goddess" as opposed to shin megami tensei which translates to "true reincarnation of the goddess" this pretty clearly connected to mainline smt but notably distinct

    • @Raddkann
      @Raddkann 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Persona kept the Shin Megami Tensei title until Persona 4 I believe

  • @scottwagner2566
    @scottwagner2566 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    An SMT player whose never played Persona, and not the other way around? You are a rarity! Nocturne is top 5 game of all time for me.

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      YESSSSSS NOCTURNE IS AMAZING!! AHH such a gem that TOO many people have not played!!

    • @raidoukuzunoha2346
      @raidoukuzunoha2346 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also discover persona through nocturne... Excluding persona 1 n some of the smt one, i played most of those smt games (including the smt series, persona series, devil survivor series n devil summoner series as well)...
      Nocturne is my 2nd fav, with devil summoner as my fav n p3 at third...

  • @LastMinuteEssays
    @LastMinuteEssays 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +236

    "I miss the PS2 days"
    You and me both, sis

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      I have been looking at buying a PS2 so I can play the PS2 games I have lol i genuinely might 🤣

    • @LastMinuteEssays
      @LastMinuteEssays 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@georgieegames The emulation of it is in a good place right now, but it really depends on how good your PC is obviously. Though I did play Persona 3 and 4 that way on a bad laptop like 11 years ago (with some slowdowns) so I think nowadays the technical limitations are much more lax.

    • @FireFist5000
      @FireFist5000 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@georgieegames I advise you to not do that because PS2 games get easily scratched up and won't be playable anymore, if you have a great PC then just download the PS2 emulator and then you can play all the PS2 games you missed out on.

    • @AmeButCool
      @AmeButCool 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@georgieegames Emulations great for it, though it's more of a vibe playing on actual hardware. They shouldn't be too hard to find thankfully. Got one from a local store pretty cheap myself

    • @Unk0wn_stalk3r
      @Unk0wn_stalk3r 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope you play persona 3 FES, its a banger​@@georgieegames

  • @joessuj8972
    @joessuj8972 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +193

    1 or 2 years ago atlus did a poll to see which Persona/MegaTen game the community wants to be remade and Persona 3 and the Persona 2 Duology were tied at first place with 78.9% of all votes.
    Maybe after P3Reload they gon announce the P2 remakes/ports

    • @pmintertek
      @pmintertek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Persona 3 is a lot easier to remade compared to older games, considering Persona 5 is pretty much the same game just with a lot improvements and different plot. Considering that their new game Metaphor Re:Fantazio is still heavily inspired by modern Persona, I don't see them remaking P1 or P2 anytime soon considering considering how different they from current Persona and just slapping Social Link mechanic won't work in them (especially P2)

    • @laiofurious6433
      @laiofurious6433 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I really can't see Persona 2 remade into Persona-modern style.

    • @SyLuX636
      @SyLuX636 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They just lazy and prefer to do a dancing game or a chibi crossover than make a full game.

    • @vetreas366
      @vetreas366 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      ​@@SyLuX636 Dumb take. Those games are still new games they made. They were also not made to replace or serve as part of the main series, they're intended as basically gaiden games. The time it takes to make a full new Persona game is around the time period of "a shitload" so having smaller games coming out to keep fans satiated and keep interest alive instead of going radio silent for 5-6-7-10 years is better.
      But yeah, "lazy" is the word I'd use when describing people who turned out multiple games in a span of a few years. It's not like developing a game, even if it is a spinoff, takes any time or effort at all.

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      P1 was voted th r most after P3-2. I think they’ll go for a P1 remake cuz P2 is more of a direct sequel to P1, as there’s more characters from P1 in it.

  • @LastMinuteEssays
    @LastMinuteEssays 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +331

    "Are any of the main characters female"
    To answer that - Persona 3 Portable had a FeMC as a choice and Persona 2: Eternal Punishment (2nd game in a duology) has Maya as the main character, she was a party member in the previous one
    That's unfortunately it

    • @aphiosey4555
      @aphiosey4555 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I think persona 5 was going to have a fem mc option but it was too much work.

    • @KhangNguyen-qn4bh
      @KhangNguyen-qn4bh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@aphiosey4555Kasumi early design is similar to Joker

    • @alexanderlloydmendoza979
      @alexanderlloydmendoza979 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Isn't there also a dlc thing with aigis from p3 as the protagonist

    • @adrielalonso1026
      @adrielalonso1026 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Don't forget The Answer

    • @flaminginferno6641
      @flaminginferno6641 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@@KhangNguyen-qn4bh Not just her, the recent Persona 5 Beta Build leaked contained some Meshes for what looks like an early concept for a Femc

  • @Yesnaught
    @Yesnaught 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +170

    "Persona 4 Golden", "Persona 3 FES", "Persona 5 The Royal" are basically director's cut versions with all the bells and whistles. P4 was roughly where the Persona brand separated from the SMT brand, and it shows in the themes.

    • @dumbghost3109
      @dumbghost3109 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      id say persona 3 is where the brands separated (though separated is a loose term. its more that persona 3 was where persona found its own separate identity). All of the persona games are canon to the smt series. the events of smy are just in the distant future (a specifically post apocalyptic one) wheras persona 1 and 2 are where the personas and demons get established, and persona 3 marks the point where they become an actual problem instead of just a weird localized supernatural event.

    • @CockLord2059
      @CockLord2059 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      nah
      Persona won't ever be able of separate from SMT cuz they uses the Devils from SMT

    • @Yesnaught
      @Yesnaught 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@CockLord2059 I meant they separated in terms of overall theme. P4 onwards is very positive and upbeat, "With the power of friendship and working together, you can do it!" and a victory without sacrifice is possible.
      SMT and P3 are more like trolley problems, they force you to pull levers and sacrifice something for the ending you want.

  • @JalarenZarrus
    @JalarenZarrus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    A non-serious but accurate answer to why there is so many dancing game spinoffs: The cast of Persona 4 loved dancing so much it infected the previous and subsequent titles.

  • @AsteriskOfficial
    @AsteriskOfficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +322

    Without spoiling too much, you're correct that you'll probably enjoy 2 and 3 the most. They have plenty of really good angst and high stakes.

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      I will have to see if I can get hold of a copy of 2! Luckily I dont have to wait too long for persona 3 it would seem haha

    • @AsteriskOfficial
      @AsteriskOfficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      @@georgieegames persona 2 is unfortunately one of the harder ones to track down, but if you can find a copy I'd definitely say it's worth it. I really do wish they'd port it to modern systems

    • @kats1646
      @kats1646 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      @@georgieegames One thing to keep in mind is that Persona 2 is a duology: Innocent Sina and Eternal Punishment. And unfortunately, the English releases got fragmented - both games got PS1 and PSP releases, but the west only got Innocent Sin on the PSP and Eternal Punishment on the PS1, meaning you can't get the full set in one console. There is, however, a fan translation of Eternal Punishment PSP, if you're okay with emulators and wan t to play the definitive version.

    • @ThaNinjazTube
      @ThaNinjazTube 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      2 is an insane suggestion lmao

    • @AsteriskOfficial
      @AsteriskOfficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@ThaNinjazTube why? It's a good game. I've played it and liked it. Georgie says she has experience with other SMT games like Nocturne, which P2 has a lot in common with.

  • @Xemnion
    @Xemnion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Persona 4 is a lighthearted adventure as a team of high schoolers who are investigating a series of violent murders! Heavy subject matters with silly and fun characters.

    • @Xemnion
      @Xemnion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Oh and the Persona 4 Arena games are indeed fighting games with a substantial amount of story and are canon to the story and continuity of Persona 4!

  • @kurokamideri
    @kurokamideri 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    For context as to the game releases:
    2:47 - Revelations Persona = PS1
    5:32 - Persona 2: Innocent Sin = PS1
    9:30 - Persona 2: Eternal Punishment = PS1
    11:20 - Persona 3 = PS2
    14:27 - Persona 3 FES = PS2
    16:02 - Persona 4 = PS2
    20:07 - Persona = PSP Remaster
    22:18 - Persona 3 Portable = PSP
    23:58 - Persona 2: Innocent Sin = PSP Remaster
    27:01 - Persona 4 Arena = XBox, PS3
    28:56 - Persona 2: Eternal Punishment = PSP Remaster
    30:27 - Persona 4 Golden = PSVita
    31:59 - Persona 4 Arena Ultimax = Switch, PS4, Steam, PS3, Xbox 360
    33:56 - Persona Q Shadow of the Labyrinth = Nintendo 3DS
    35:28 - Persona 4 Dancing All Night = PS4, PSVita
    37:02 - Persona 5 = PS3, PS4
    38:40 - Persona 3 Dancing Moon Night = PS4, PSVita
    40:20 - Persona 5 Dancing Star Night = PS4, PSVita
    42:59 - Persona Q2 New Cinema Labyrinth = Nintendo 3DS
    43:46 - Persona 5 the Royal = Nintendo Switch, PS4, PS5, Steam, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S
    45:28 - Persona 5 Scramble = Nintendo Switch, PS4, Steam
    47:22 - Persona 3 Reload = PS5, PS4, Xbox Cloud Gaming, Steam, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S

  • @Xemnion
    @Xemnion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    It's also important to note that all of the Persona games do deal with more mature and serious topics and subject matters. Some of them are more angsty and edgy but that doesn't change that even the most lighthearted of the Persona series, that being Persona 4, still has a lot of dark and serious subject matters. If any of them interest you, you should definitely give them a shot. And even the other ones that you didn't necessarily say you wanted to play are also fantastic games that are worth your time.

    • @ma.2089
      @ma.2089 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Even if all games are more mature, certain games handle its content differently by choosing what to focus on, and that can affect the entire vibe. It’s not surprising to be into P3 over P4, for example, due to how P4 tackles the mature themes, and whether the vibe is consistent throughout. P3’s a bit more consistent compared to P4, for example.
      I think she’d benefit from learning the basic premise of each game since she didn’t seem to recognize P3 characters were crossing over with P4, for example.

  • @knightofblackfyre7950
    @knightofblackfyre7950 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Dont know if anyone else commented already, but Persona 3 and persona 4: golden had a butterfly in the opener. You just missed them. The butterfly has much more meaning if you had played both Persona 1 and both 2s, but it still makes a appearance in newer Personas.

  • @BeyondBlue22
    @BeyondBlue22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    To answer your question about the Butterfly Effect, it doesn't actually have anything to do with dreaming you're a butterfly. The idea is based on a question once posed, "can the flapping of a butterfly's wings cause a hurricane in South America?" The idea is that in an incredibly complex mathematical system like the weather, even a minor atmospheric change could snowball into huge differences later. From there, the idea was incorporated into time travel, where the smallest changes to history can have immense unforeseen effects. The thing about dreaming you're a butterfly is based on a guy who dreamt it so vividly it sent him into an existential crisis about which life, the butterfly or the human, was the dream, and which one was truly reality.

  • @VeniVidiVici_VI
    @VeniVidiVici_VI 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    To answer your question, yes, 2 of the Persona games have had a female protagonist.
    Maya in Persona 2: Eternal Punishment - Persona 2 is a duology. The protag of the 2nd P2 game is a female party member from the 1st P2 game.
    FeMC in Persona 3 Portable - P3P added a female protagonist option. She, like the Male MC, is a self-insert character you name. Unlike female protag options in other games, the protagonists gender changes a good amount such as the romance options, the music in the game, character dynamics, a good chunk of the dialogue, the UI, and exclusive Social Links.
    Fingers crossed for a FeMC option in Persona 6. And personally hoping P3Reload gets a future expansion with the FeMC included.

    • @beo3828
      @beo3828 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Considering we have FES and Aigis, I would be surprised if they give yet another female The Fool in P3.
      But it would be nice if we got a post FES story, maybe giving us the happy ending they owe us.

    • @SyLuX636
      @SyLuX636 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There probably gonna be another milked P5 fighting game before they make anything for 6. 6 probably will be about the power of friendship and sex since the tones have been so light I don't consider it a Persona game anymore.

    • @VeniVidiVici_VI
      @VeniVidiVici_VI 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @beo3828 I dont think it'd be strange at all to have 2 Fools in a row be girls. Fortune, Strength, Hanged Man, Magician, Justice, Temperance, Tower, and Death have all had 2 men or 2 women in a row before. Hell, I'd find it more unrealistic for every Arcana to strictly alternate gender evenly. Remember, the Arcana are simply assigned based on someone's personality traits and role in the Journey, that's all.
      Plus, just personally, I've never been a fan of the Smurfette Principal, even in concepts.
      Also, I kinda like the somber ending of P3. It hits home the themes of death and moving on well. I'd be a little salty if the MC came back to life lol.

    • @beo3828
      @beo3828 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @FullMoon_BloodHarvest what I meant to say is that Aigis is the clear MC for FES and therefore it would be weird if she didn't retain that role in any extension.
      Also while I love the seriousness and weight of P3's ending, I wouldn't mind if we could unplug our emo dude from the seal.

    • @VeniVidiVici_VI
      @VeniVidiVici_VI 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @beo3828 Oh ok I get what you mean. That wouldn't be an issue though. FeMC's fate is the same as MaleC, so even if she was included, Aigis would inherit the Fool anyway in FES.
      Nah, I get it. Many times, I also prefer a good happy ending too. I just wouldn't want it for P3 specifically, as a personal preference.

  • @beo3828
    @beo3828 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Unsure of someone answered this, but the characters don't transform into their personas, they are literally summoning them to fight alongside them. The method of bringing them out varies, but yeah, they don't become their personas, as a Persona is meant to be a "representation" of themselves taking a physical form.

    • @beo3828
      @beo3828 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Also, in case this also wasn't answered, P3 FES is both the original P3 and FES the epilogue of sorts, P4/P4G and P5/P5R can be understood as "the same game but with a bit of an extra" much like Street Fighter makes the same game 3-4 times but it adds a little more each.
      P5 Strikers is a sequel. Also, while your actions can dictate some endings, you have a lot less choice that you seem to be thinking about the events of the game, namely that you can't really decide who lives or dies, so to speak.

    • @bakuraXmarik
      @bakuraXmarik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mhh from what i remember of Persona 2 there are some choices you can make that destroyes buildings when going to the wrong place. And i think also characters get hurt if you do something wrong. Don't wanna spoiler too much

    • @beo3828
      @beo3828 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bakuraXmarik I meant from P3 onwards, P1 and P2 are more like MTG so I would think they probably have that sort of thing.

    • @julien827
      @julien827 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its useless to describe personas as anything else than: yes they are jojo stands

  • @KommandeurMumm
    @KommandeurMumm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    A somewhat short explanation:
    Persona 1 - Released for the PS1, got a remaster/remake on the PSP
    Persona 2 Innocent Sin - PS1, got a remaster on the PSP
    Persona 2 Eternal Punishment - PS1, got a remaster on the PSP (the only game in the series where you play as adults and it is a direct sequel to Innocent Sin)
    Persona 3 - A complete overhaul of the series introducing playable social/school life, released on the PS2
    Persona 3 FES - In japan an Add-On to 3, in the west included in P3, released on the PS2, expands the story of P3
    Persona 3 Portable - An extended Version of P3 for the PSP, the only newer game with a chosable female MC (now also on Steam, Playstation Store, XBox Game Store)
    Persona 3 Reload - The new remake of P3 (adapts just the core game, not the extra story from FES - and no female MC from Portable. Other than that, tons of new content and improvements.)
    Persona 3 Dancing Moon Night - A rythm game, released on PS4/PS Vita
    Persona 4 - Released on the PS2
    Persona 4 Golden - An extended version of P4 for the PS Vita (now also on Steam, Playstation Store, XBox Game Store)
    Persona 4 Arena - Released on X360/PS3 - Fighting game, sequel to P3 and P4
    Persona 4 Ultimax - Sequel/restart of Arena - X360/PS3 - Fighting Game
    Persona 4 Dancing All Night - A rythm game, PS4/Vita
    Persona Q - Spin Off with characters from P3 and P4, released on Nintendo 3DS
    Persona Q2 - now also with characters of P5 - Nintendo 3DS
    Persona 5 - Released for PS3/PS4
    Persona 5 Royal - Extended version of P5, Released on PS4/XBone (now available on basically every platform)
    Persona 5 Strikers/Scramble - Mousou style game, sequel/spin-off to P5, released on PS4/Nintendo Switch/Steam
    Persona 5 Dancing Star Light - A rythm game, PS4/Vita
    Persona 5 Tactical - Spin-Off of Persona 5 - Tactical RPG, released on PS4, PS5, XBone, Series S/X, Windows
    That should be all ganes I hope...
    A few other short things:
    Characters in the Persona games don't transform, they summon their Personas.
    Igor (the man with the nose) is in every Persona game and functions as guide and to manage Personas. He resides in the "Velvet Room" a space between dream and reality.
    He is also jokingly considered to be the sexiest man in a video game. :D
    Don't let the Opening movies fool you, all the games deal with heavy and adult themes as well as death (even the spin-offs to some extent).
    The Butterfly Effect as such does not really play a role in the games, the butterfly has more a symbolic meaning and nature.
    From Persona 3 onwards the series borrows a lot of imagery from the teachings of Carl Gustav Jung (one of the fathers of psychology), such as the Personas themselves as manifestations of a persons character and Shadows as the dark side of the human psyche.
    Hope that helps to make things a bit clearer for you. :)

    • @germin9784
      @germin9784 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      P3 Reload is just the original P3, nothing new added? Well that kinda killed my interest

    • @Tasty_Tango45
      @Tasty_Tango45 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@germin9784they added mini events for the male party members since they don’t have social links, but for the most part it seems like Atlus likes to stay faithful with remakes, so yea

    • @KommandeurMumm
      @KommandeurMumm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@germin9784 they added tons of new content to reload, but nothing from FES or Portable.
      I edited my original post for clarifiaction. :)

    • @flavoredcement3584
      @flavoredcement3584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is also now Persona 5 Tactica which takes place at the same time as P5 :D

    • @KommandeurMumm
      @KommandeurMumm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@flavoredcement3584 Thank you, for reminding me. I put it in the original post.

  • @VBandit47
    @VBandit47 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    As much as I love seeing people try to get into this series for the first time, I'm always a little wary when they react to EVERY opening.
    If you throw in the spin-offs and animes it can get a little confusing. But I think you'd love this series!

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      That's fair! For me I think it was a fun glimpse into how the games styles and atlus as a developer have grown in their art style! I enjoyed filming it regardless! Some great openings in here!

  • @bagon_the_bacon
    @bagon_the_bacon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    I am so happy someone wants to play p2 the most:)

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      it looks SO GOOD! app it's very similar to SMT with how it plays so I think I'll love it a lot, just gotta find a copy now ahha

    • @bagon_the_bacon
      @bagon_the_bacon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@georgieegames well unfortunately P2 innocent sin is only avaible on psp or emulator and for P2 eternal punishment its only for the ps1 or an emulator sence the pc version was never published in the west(there is an emulated version for the psp tho woth translated text)

    • @hinatashoyo3774
      @hinatashoyo3774 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@bagon_the_baconI'm glad there are still people who want to think the old Persona exist

    • @Madondodon
      @Madondodon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      P2 is my personal favorite as well! 2nded by P3 for plot :))

  • @Regolant1
    @Regolant1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    You're a gem Georgie.
    I've never found anyone who played the SMT series and NOT the persona series.

  • @ZarathosDaimaoh
    @ZarathosDaimaoh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    The butterfly is more dominantly present in P1 and P2 , because it foremost symbolises a character that i'll avoid spoiling , but in essence the guide for persona users. Butterflies are also associated with transformation, metamorphosis , dominant themes through the games

    • @yves1594
      @yves1594 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In P5 the butterfly is also pretty important with lavenza right?

  • @MartinHernandez-xv1mc
    @MartinHernandez-xv1mc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    One thing about the persona series it that it does anwser the question of "what happens next" for most of the characters. A few characters from P1 do get featured in P2. Same thing for P3 characters being featured in P4, including the fighting game spinoffs. In P5 there are reference to previous games with the exception of P1 through passerby dicussions, TV, and specific objects in reality.
    Most of the spinoffs are canonical.

  • @ZeroChronicles01
    @ZeroChronicles01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Seeing how many other people are explaining the openings and games, a quick note about the Persona Q games:
    Persona Q 1 and 2 are cross over games that are (semi cannon) games. The idea is to see the interactions between the cast of persona 3, and persona 4 in the first persona q game. and the second game is to see interactions between persona 5, 4, and 3.

  • @leurunner4764
    @leurunner4764 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    Persona 2 innocent sin and Persona 2 eternal punishment. Yes, they are both known as persona 2 and are in fact connected.

    • @genten34
      @genten34 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The story takes place three years after Persona, so the sub characters from Persona 1 become the main characters in Persona 2.

    • @donglegs
      @donglegs 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@genten34 Are you confusing Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment with P1 and P2? None of the permanent P2 party were in P1 at all, but some of the P1 party return in 2. It's EP where side characters from IS become the main party.

  • @Pix6lbits
    @Pix6lbits 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Once you’ve fell down into the persona hole you can only go deeper with no return

    • @Pix6lbits
      @Pix6lbits 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      31:53 hahahahaha oh man how wrong you are

  • @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz
    @AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    to adress any confusion, the video is in release order:
    persona 1
    persona 2 part 1
    persona 2 part 2
    persona 3
    persona 3 FES
    persona 4
    persona 1 remake
    persona 3 portable
    persona 2 part 1 remake
    persona 4 arena
    persona 2 part 2 remake
    and the rest.
    the series generally revolves around human nature, relationships and some light psychological elements. it's a lot more personal and character based than the rest of SMT.
    the series turned into half school life simulator in persona 3 when the team changed, and they're in charge to this day.
    oh, and persona started as an SMT spinoff. it officially dropped the SMT name in persona 5.
    AND yes, persona 2's story is great.

  • @AnimeJessica
    @AnimeJessica 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Persona 4 Golden "This must be one of the happier games" If you know, you know.

    • @dannyontario4878
      @dannyontario4878 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well according to some people, Persona 4 is the happiest game about murder

  • @ZarathosDaimaoh
    @ZarathosDaimaoh 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Yeah as you've probably noticed in Megaten you're usually the one that transforms into otherworldly creatures , or even become a devil as seen in Nocturne and tame and invoke other creatures and myth . In Persona the characters don't invoke those creatures , besides their own avatar , their persona , tied to their psyche , life experience and mental state . It's basically the stands from JoJo's Bizarre Adventures mixed with myths and legends . It's also tied to the concept of Tarot cards , each individual's persona being tied to an arcana . There is also an exception , the main character , whose unique rebellious nature , usually tied to the tarot card "The Fool" or the concept of a "Wild Card", gives him an edge , the ability to summon his unique Persona , but also instead every other creatures he captured .
    SMT also seems to have very specific settings in comparison . They usually involve the end of the world (it happens during the story) and are set around wandering a demonic wasteland. The demons are actors in the story and not just in your mind. You talk to them and they have their own intentions and plans. There are usually not a lot of humans left. The plot is also often tied to different lawful , chaotic or neutral philosophies which determine the shape of the post apocalypse world .

    • @raidoukuzunoha2346
      @raidoukuzunoha2346 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed, n to add/support above (also this is my opinion so do correct me if I'm wrong 😅)
      smt series has much darker tone (post apocalyptic event, morality/alignment) n it usually revolve around scenario/theme that centering on the world, n the monster summoned as your ally r those from myth/literature/historical figure/etc
      Persona on the other hand has more lighter tone n the theme of the game often focus/revolve around the society/individual itself with the mc act as the central perspective, n the persona is the manifestation of the people's consciousness which took on the form of those shadow/persona

  • @thatpunkcatte
    @thatpunkcatte 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "They enjoy dancing in this one, don't they?"
    Investigation Team danced so hard they killed a god. And that's not even a joke.

  • @hamzahax
    @hamzahax 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    persona can be as derpressing as much as it can be goofy
    that's the charm of this series
    it is an extreme contrast to the rest of the megaten franchises

    • @SyLuX636
      @SyLuX636 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      4 and 5 I'd dont consider depressing at all in comparison to the OG 3.

    • @Kubson3105
      @Kubson3105 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SyLuX636 4 wasn't depressing? You mean you didn't cry when Nanako died?

    • @MizzBellaKitty
      @MizzBellaKitty 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Kubson3105 Hell, just thinking about Nanako's situation, her dealing with loneliness after losing her mom and her dad not being around much, makes me want to cry. I can really relate to her.

    • @ChiangKai-Shrek
      @ChiangKai-Shrek 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kubson3105 Yeah when Nanako died and was instantly revived if you didn't shove the delivery guy into the TV lol.
      Persona 4 and 5 do get dark at times, but Nanako isn't a great example of that lol

  • @Ruukasu97
    @Ruukasu97 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Persona is like final fantasy, each number is different but there can be multiple games for each number. i dont know if they all are in the same universe but i know 4 and 5 are but 6 years later
    ( 1 of the characters from 4 is an idol and you can see ads for her in 5)

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Ohhh GOT IT! Awesome thank you!

    • @ScarletSilverIron
      @ScarletSilverIron 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Final Fantasy rarely stay in the same universe

    • @Ruukasu97
      @Ruukasu97 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ScarletSilverIron thats true but there are 3 ff13 and 2 ff10 games

    • @losharikoved
      @losharikoved 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      3 and 4 are definitely in the same universe because p4 arena is canon. And in p3 one of characters once mentioned one of the most important families from p1. In P2 as things are getting worse many characters from p1 are getting involved.
      So it's safe to assume that all of them are in same universe

    • @hamzahax
      @hamzahax 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They do occur in the same timeline tho
      It's just that it doesnt need to be played in order

  • @marksmania42
    @marksmania42 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The cool thing about Persona 3 Portable’s opening is that you can watch it upside down

  • @jordanamador1845
    @jordanamador1845 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    You're absolutely correct about Persona 2 duology, best story and characters of the series. Also both psp openings are freaking amazing! The world needs that Persona 2 remake!

    • @faebees5793
      @faebees5793 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Heres hoping once they've finished up ith reload

    • @jordanamador1845
      @jordanamador1845 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think (cope xd) that the plan is that the Persona team is split between a small team that is working on the DLC for P3R and P1/P2 remake while the big team is developing P6.

  • @specimen11themeatdemon84
    @specimen11themeatdemon84 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    You should also watch all of the persona 3 reloaded character trailers, those are also good

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      I shall! I want to play this P3R I think as a place to start with the persona games so that would be awesome to see!

    • @pezdispencer113
      @pezdispencer113 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@georgieegamesif you intend to play P3R, then I would recommend not watching the character trailers. I'd recommend going into the game as blind as possible.

  • @sammysamlovescats
    @sammysamlovescats 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So a general note about "modern Persona." Each game is made with 3 themes in mind, a color, a music genre, and one word
    Persona 3 - Blue, Hip Hop, Death
    Persona 4 - Yellow, Pop, Truth
    Persona 5 - Red, Jazz, Freedom

  • @AerialAirwaves
    @AerialAirwaves 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    > P4U Ultra Suplex Hold... that's a bit too long
    Digital Devil Saga Avatar Tuner: well, excuuuse me

  • @SHGogo-df5jr
    @SHGogo-df5jr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think a good way to describe P5 vs P5 Royal is its like Kingdom Hearts vs Final Mix. Its like the definitive ver now, its a re-release w/ extra content & little tweaks throughout the game.

  • @GunmetalGator
    @GunmetalGator 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Honestly with how much you love the Persona 2 intros, just know that in an ATLUS poll for Persona games to make, while Persona 3 got its remake from winning the poll.... it was tied with Persona 2 remake as well. Maybe if you're patient, we might see something in the next 5 years.

  • @maddaton2163
    @maddaton2163 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That moment when a 9-10 year old is in your party in persona 3 shooting himself. Yeah. Sums up SMT

  • @LatchinOn
    @LatchinOn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    DIGITAL DEVIL SAGA IS SO GOOD YESS!! It's such a great introduction to SMT! Not only is the story amazing, but the gameplay gimmick is cool too, being able to transform into demons instead of gathering them

  • @Eclipsed_Moon2
    @Eclipsed_Moon2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    what a coincidence!
    i am just getting into the persona series again recently

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      which one would you recommend??

    • @Eclipsed_Moon2
      @Eclipsed_Moon2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​​@@georgieegames that is quite a hard question because a lot of favoritism is applied
      Persona 5 royal is good for a started and if you enjoy it you can play the rest, it doesn't really matter what order you play them in because Persona 1 and 2 (IS and EP) are the only ones directly connected to each other

    • @DD-ut9cc
      @DD-ut9cc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgieegames The stories are linked but at the same time disconnected enough you could enjoy them individually. Lots of spin-offs are canon and there's loads of P3/P4 cross over.
      Just choose the one you like best I'd say, or just go with the newest one which will be, err, P3 reload and not persona 5 royal? It's weird.

    • @damiengrief
      @damiengrief 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgieegames My first one was Persona 4 Golden and I love it. Most people probably got into the series with P5. But I think P4G is a better starting point. And I think if you're used to SMT and its spin offs, you'd probably be okay with the older gameplay design (since P4 was a PS2 game).

    • @orangejuice3235
      @orangejuice3235 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can play them in any order, save for the 2 duology since Eternal Punishment is a direct sequel to Innocent Sin. They're all independent stories, the newer ones just tend to have more polished gameplay and quality of life.

  • @zipical
    @zipical 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Persona 3 Portable included a Female MC to play as, as well as the original MC which is why the P3P opening is mirrored all the time (you can even watch the op upside down)

  • @sepherioth5568
    @sepherioth5568 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Persona 3 is DARK, 4 very happy, 5 the middle ground

  • @ottareyeen851
    @ottareyeen851 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact for those who love the multiverse: In nocturne its stated that theres a multiverse (Amala) with worlds that are destroyed and remade. The persona series first into one of those universes. Its a timeline in which the events of smt 1 and 2 didnt happen. Persona is also in the same time line as the devil summoner games which is a series about detectives who use demons (like those from nocturne) to help solve paranormal problems
    im a nerd lol. i hope u enjoyed this info

  • @Tasty_Tango45
    @Tasty_Tango45 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Its funny you were drawn to Persona 2 considering the guy who wrote Digital Devil Saga (Satomi Tadashi) also wrote persona 1, persona 2 and its sequel, so they may be why you felt drawn to it xD I’m one of those people who Prefer the older games to the newer games but all of them have a place in my heart : )

  • @altarudragonspirit4016
    @altarudragonspirit4016 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So from what I know, P3, P4 and P5 share a universe (there are some direct references to characters and places from the previous game(s) that make it pretty explicit, and P4A+Ultimax has returning characters from P3 and is also directly tied into the story of P3); I'm not as sure of P1 and P2 since I've only really seen highlights of playthroughs of P2 and P3, though I know there is a reference to a couple of P2 characters in P3 (though whether it's a shared universe is dubious), and a few P1 characters show up in P2 at some point (so those games atleast share a universe)

  • @pedroscoponi4905
    @pedroscoponi4905 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Haven't seen much mention here in the comments, so I'll add a clarification: All Persona games I'm broadly aware of (in other words, excluding 1 and 2) have linear stories, and the RPG choice element comes more in which characters you choose to spend more time with and get to know.
    The mainline games are the numbered entries, and their respective "director's cut" versions like P4Golden or P5Royal, all the other ones are non-canon spinoffs within other game genres, so their stories are more self contained.
    As an example, P5 Scramble is a Musou-style game that follows directly from the ending of P5, but it released before Royal and thus doesn't take into account characters and events present in it (much to my dismay as a fan of one of those absent characters...)

  • @wowwar2
    @wowwar2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just played both Digital Devil Saga games, I loved them and I really wish they were talked about a lot more

  • @Ruukasu97
    @Ruukasu97 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    ive only played p4 and p5 and im waiting for the p3 remake, but persona 5 royal is in my top 5 best games of all time. i think its pretty much perfekt (also kasumi best girl)

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      oh wow that's good to know! I think I want to play persona 3 first then do 4 and 5 but shall see :) Ty for watching :)

    • @meddios
      @meddios 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@georgieegames It's okay to play them in any order. Even though everything is happening in the same universe, the stories do not intersect. (Although there may be obscure cameos that you will only get if you played previous games, but they are insignificant)

    • @mystrenula3911
      @mystrenula3911 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@georgieegamesyou can pretty much play the games in any order save for 1 and the 2 duology they're pretty closely tied to the point that it loses a lot of story if you play them out of order

  • @phntmthf5505
    @phntmthf5505 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As an explanation to some of this:
    In each game, characters summon their Personas in different ways. In P1-P2, characters just summon their Personas willy nilly because they have help from literally God (his name is Philemon, he’s chill). In Persona 3, gun-like tools called Evokers are used to trigger a near-death experience and make summoning a Persona far less taxing on the user. In Persona 4, a tarot major arcana is shattered by a character to release their true, inner self. In Persona 5, characters tear off a mask to unleash the rebellious spirit hidden from society.
    Persona 1, 2: Innocent Sin, 2: Eternal Punishment, and 3 all got PSP rereleases, the lattermost being the second rerelease of Persona 3 (that being Persona 3 FES, which came with QoL and gameplay enhancements alongside an afterstory).
    Name disparities: Persona 4 Golden, Persona 4 Arena, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Persona 5 Royal, and Persona 5 Strikers have slightly different, and all longer, names in Japan. In the same vein of naming discontinuity: in America, Kuma is named Teddy and Navi is named Oracle.
    Persona 4 Arena and Arena Ultimax are fighting games featuring the P4 characters (and some older P3 characters in the latter case). Persona Q and Q2 follow full teams from P3, P4, and P5 in practically non-canon adventures (characters forget the events after). Persona 4 Dancing All Night is the only canon dancing game, with Dancing Moon Night and Dancing Star Night taking place in dreams, but all three are rhythm games where the characters dance. Persona 5 Strikers is a spin-off that exchanges turn-based combat for gameplay like the Dynasty Warriors series, and Persona 5 Tactica (which you didn’t see the trailer for) is a much more tactical (hence the name) spin-off that plays similar to games like XCOM and Mario + Rabbids.
    Persona 3 Reload is a ground-up remake of Persona 3 in the engine for Persona 5.

  • @pinkkiwicosplay
    @pinkkiwicosplay 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the reflection in the p3p opening is meant so you can flip your psp around and watch it upside down and get a unique intro for the other protag introduced in this game that you can play as for a different experience

  • @Xeroxthebeautiful
    @Xeroxthebeautiful 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Digital devil saga is so insanely good more people desperately need to play them

  • @turboshell
    @turboshell 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The main connection between Persona and Shin Megami Tensei is it's set in an alternate world from the mainline series, where the big dystopian event never happens. This world was first seen in the spinoff Shin Megami Tensei if... which was a SNES game released in 1994, at least one character from it appears in persona 1 and 2 which confirms its the same world. It's also the same universe as Devil Summoner, as a couple minor characters from it appear in Persona 2
    By the time Persona 3 came around they've basically dropped all connection to previous SMT games aside from the monster designs, However Persona 1 and 2 still get referenced very very occasionally which means they're still canon by association
    P3 onwards goes for a self contained approach to the games while persona 1 and 2 are much more connected to each other by comparison

  • @team4star1
    @team4star1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m a really new fan who got in from playing persona 5: Royal which is the remake of persona 5. I will personally say that I’ve dove into a ton of persona content because of it, persona 1 and 2 aren’t played by a lot of people because of clunky controls and hard to acquire copies as far as I know, but people still really love the characters and stories. The dancing games exist because there was too much good music in these games. Some other little tidbits are important like the persona 3 portable had a female protagonist with some major story changes that a lot of people loved who will not be a part of the initial release of the remake for p3. She was in the persona Q2 game which is the second chibi game that you saw in one of the opening trailers and it was extremely cool to see her there.
    In my experience persona 5 is genuinely the peak of the series, so it’d be best to play P3 reload, P4 golden, and then P5 royal, but that is just my take on it because I’m biased. There are things I love far more about the characters in P4 and things I love far more about the themes in P3, so if you have any amount of interest in these games play them for yourself and enjoy.

  • @Stormblessed4214
    @Stormblessed4214 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The guns in Persona 3 are called Evokers, basically designed to deliver an intense emotional shock in order to draw out your persona (and also, you know, the game's entire theme of the inevitability of death)

  • @Ada242
    @Ada242 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    DIGITAL DEVIL SAGA MENTIONED RAAAAAAA IM LIVING
    oh btw!! the director of the persona 2 games also directed DDS2

    • @georgieegames
      @georgieegames  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Omg YESSSS ANOTHER FAN HIIIII WAHOOOO

    • @Ada242
      @Ada242 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@georgieegames hi!!!! theyre literally my favourite megaten games and some of my fav games ever i did a double take when u mentioned them sfdlkgkbsmdf

  • @fortello7219
    @fortello7219 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Timestamps:
    #01 2:32 - Revelations: Persona
    #02 9:55 - Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
    #03 11:34 - SMT Persona 3
    #04 14:27 - SMT Persona 3 FES
    #05 16:04 - SMT Persona 4
    #06 20:10 - SMT Persona
    #07 22:20 - SMT Persona 3 Portable
    #08 23:58 - SMT Persona 2: Innocent Sin
    #09 27:09 - Persona 4 Arena
    #10 28:56 - SMT Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
    #11 30:27 - Persona 4 Golden
    #12 31:59 - Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
    #13 33:55 - Persona Q: Shadow of the Labyrinth
    #14 35:27 - Persona 4 Dancing All Night
    #15 37:02 - Persona 5
    #16 38:38 - Persona 3 Dancing Moon Night
    #17 40:17 - Persona 5 Dancing Star Night
    #18 41:59 - Persona Q2: New Cinema Labyrinth
    #19 43:45 - Persona 5 Royal
    #20 45:25 - Persona 5 Strikers
    #21 47:25 - Persona 3 Reload

  • @raidev_
    @raidev_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    43:32 Most of them are male with the exception of Maya in Persona 2 eternal punishment and Kotone in Persona 3 Portable

  • @eliotarcher
    @eliotarcher 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Persona 2 is the best persona game in terms of story plotwise for me. It's the most tragic of all persona games, due to spoiler reasons wich I'll not go on about, but for sure check it out. The gameplay is a little outdated but the story is worth it.

  • @christinedeshano2872
    @christinedeshano2872 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you don't rescue people lost in Tartarus they can die. Yes, they have to be willing to face death to call their persona. Don't worry, the evokers are loaded with special ammo. Persona 3 Reload is amazing. The depth of the story is incredible.
    Persona 5 Royal is an extention, the fighting games with 3 and 4 include significant story and are pretty much sequels. Yes, Persona 5 came out before the dancing game for Persona 3.

  • @Sonder-i9n
    @Sonder-i9n 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Persona 4 takes place in Inaba where Yu, the main protagonist one night discovers a channel called the midnight channel that only appears on tv during midnight that always reveals a person on tv revealing their true selves and how they really feel about themselves. Which is why the opening shows the all the tv’s

  • @redcomputfox
    @redcomputfox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For the Persona 3 games, the head shot methods are not inciting death but more of the method of casting then a final action in ones life. And it's only within the other world that it happens.

  • @pichugaming5373
    @pichugaming5373 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    33:56 and 42:00
    This is Perasona Q and Persona Q2 (only on the 3DS). It's about different teams from different timelines joining together to help or to save someone in need. Also, on Q2 you can can the female proagonists by herself.

  • @gravajaumbros
    @gravajaumbros 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ah, missing the opening for Persona 5 Tactica. You should definitely check that one out too. And as for angst, pretty much all the games will have their angsty moments, but some are definitely more angsty than others. Persona 3's theme does revolve a lot around death and mourning, so it's more angsty than 4 or 5. I've seen 4 described as "the most cheerful murder mystery you'll ever play", which is pretty accurate.

  • @jyaafi8158
    @jyaafi8158 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Yes! I've been waiting for this video from you, God how i LOVE Persona 3 ❤, now i need to save money for the new one🤣

  • @shelbybayer200
    @shelbybayer200 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    P3 reload's opening song
    Full Moon, Full Life is a tribute to the Fans of the original with the first few lyrics.
    "Full Moon again, Crazy how time flies"

  • @No-899
    @No-899 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I remember correctly, the butterfly thing at the beginning of the first game’s opening is an excerpt from a Chinese philosopher about the self

  • @angel__king
    @angel__king 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s real people with real problems living their lives while fighting metaphorical monsters that represent larger ideas things like: mortality, superficiality on tv and rebellion

  • @Szriko
    @Szriko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not knowing the opening butterfly quote straight into assuming it's referencing a movie from 8 years in the future is... rough

  • @cameroncottingham9923
    @cameroncottingham9923 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact the games Persona 3 and Persona 4 (the originals) were first released on the PS2 and I played the Persona 3 FES on the PS2 which is the first game I played

  • @TalesTheDude
    @TalesTheDude 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    About when you were inquiring about how it was related to SMT, Persona was a spinoff from the game Shin Megami Tensei IF, which introduced the ideas Persona uses going forward.
    Also, I know people try to recommend Persona 5 all the time, because it is the easiest one in terms of difficulty curve. As you go backwards, the older games do get harder, and don't have a lot of the mechanics that are common now.
    As for you being interested in Persona 2 IS and EP, those are the best overall story in the franchise, honestly. Persona 3 is my favorite, because I love the characters the most, and it has some really hard hitting emotional moments, especially for my favorite character. I won't spoil anything, because I hope you play them and what I mean.
    Finally, Persona 2 Joker is way more interesting Joker than Persona 5 Joker. Villains are always cooler.

  • @BeyondBlue22
    @BeyondBlue22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Venn diagram of people who enjoy Kingdom Hearts and people who enjoy Persona is damn near a circle so I think you'll like the series lol

  • @jaderotaski1
    @jaderotaski1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To answer your questions Geogie, the blue butterfly is a symbol of Philimon a mysterious deity that watches over humanity and is the one basically ensuring that people get the power of personas to avert threats that could wipe them out; Igor the long-nosed master of the velvet room in the Persona games works for him, basically if you see a blue butterfly, its a sign of Philimons influence (hence why persona protaginists tend to see them as they have been 'chosen' by pilimon' for a certain purpose).

  • @noahpauley
    @noahpauley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So there’s enhanced/rerelease versions of all the mainline Persona games. There’s 1/1 portable, 2 innocent sin/eternal punishment (both with psp versions), 3/FES (enhanced version)/portable, 4/Golden (enhanced version), and 5/royal (enhanced version). Now 3 Reloaded being a remake of P3 coming out. It’s definitely daunting for a newcomer especially with all the spin off games that sometimes are canon sequels or completely non canon crossovers.

  • @cameroncottingham9923
    @cameroncottingham9923 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another thing is in each game the all of the main characters personas are based on each mythology like for example in 3 they are based on the Greek mythology and in 4 they are based on Japanese mythology or more specifically Shinto like Amaterasu but in 5 they expand it by using fictional characters based on thieves

  • @raidenmei9064
    @raidenmei9064 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I saw a couple of your responses on how to get ahold of persona 2. The original physical copies are pretty expensive and rare nowadays, and there were some localization issues so certain versions of the games were never localized. For the absolute best experience, I would reccomend Innocent Sin on PSP and the fan translation of Eternal Punishment on PSP. If you want to go completely legit, no fan versions or emulators, your best bet is the ps vita. It has the PSP version of Innocent Sin and the PS1 version of Eternal Punishment. Both persona 2 games are connected much more closely than the rest of the series, they are direct sequels. I think for you, as someone with a background in the SMT series, your best starting point would be either P2 or P3. And yeah, Digital Devil Saga is fantastic.

  • @nickelakon5369
    @nickelakon5369 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The buttetfly is a reoccurring character in the series called Philemon, he often appears as a butterfly because his character's appearance was based on a chinese philosopher named Zhuang Zhou, who wrote "the butterfly dream" which is the quote read at the beginning. Its a philosophical concept thats basically about how nothing can be truly known for certain.
    Philemon himself is a conceptual being proposed by Karl Jung, as a sort of Spirit Guide for humanity as a whole. Jung claimed that Philmeon would speak to him in his dreams.

  • @xjames45
    @xjames45 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not sure about P1, but I’m pretty sure the rest are in the same universe. In P4 there’s a segment where you visit the school from P3 and see some recurring side characters from that game. Also in P5 if you watch the news on certain days, it mentions characters from P2-P4 as well as having posters of a character from P4 all over the subway

    • @MDubZ12
      @MDubZ12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      P1 - P2 are the most directly linked because there are literally recurring characters. If she goes back that far, she should NOT play 2 before 1. But yeah, P1 - 5 are ALL connected.

    • @pmintertek
      @pmintertek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MDubZ12 P2 is a self-contianed story. While I certainly recommend P1 first, it you can enjoy Persona 2 without touching Persona 1

    • @DLaevateinn
      @DLaevateinn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      P1 I believe exists in both universes mainly due to certain characters in P2 and the fact that the condition for the other universe is to have a certain event happen differently.

    • @MDubZ12
      @MDubZ12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pmintertek yes, but that's not my point. 1 and 2 are the most closely linked different numbered entries in the franchise (mainline only ofc). There's much more to appreciate going from 1 to 2 than 3 to 4 then 5. Besides, if she then later played 1, she'd know certain characters' fate, and she seems to prefer when there are high stakes involved, so 2 before 1 may ruin 1 for her.
      Edit: I'm basically saying that if she plans to experience 1 at all, then play it before 2. Not that you need to play it to experience 2 in general.

  • @TheLastCurryRice
    @TheLastCurryRice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Holy shit this might be the first time I’ve been following an English content maker that shouts out DDS. Such a sick concept for a game and a story. Love media that gets into more philosophical themes like the law/chaos route endings of SMT and the growth of “emotion” as a concept you see in Avatar Tuner. (DDS in Japan) Maybe they’re the reason I got so deep into Project Moon’s games looking back if my childhood was blessed (cursed) from getting into these sorts of games then thanks to Atlus for making me like this~

  • @sistemasocm6192
    @sistemasocm6192 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jung describes the 'Persona' as the social mask we use to face the external world.
    Thats the theme of persona 5

  • @hunterlawrence3573
    @hunterlawrence3573 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Someone has probably already explained all this in the comments, but I'll try my best to answer your questions about Persona summoning.
    The games are based in Jungian Psychology. A Persona is the a facet of one's true self that exists within the heart. The power to call that out and use it in battle is called Persona summoning.
    P3: The characters summon their Personas by shooting themselves with a gun-shaped item called an Evoker. It's made to look like a real gun to terrify them and remind them they are mortal. It symbolizes acceptance of death and mortality, which ties into the game's theme.
    P4: Crushing tarot cards (used in fortune telling) symbolizing rejecting fate and carving their own path. But first, before they can do this, everyone has a conversation with their inner self and learns to accept it, even the parts they may not like. (Jungian Psychology). This ties into the game's theme of truth and the overall series themes of self-acceptance.
    P5: They rip off their masks, symbolizing revealing their true self. Personas are essentially masks, (again, Jungian Psychology) that protects our inner self from the world. In a game about rebelling against an unjust society, this symbolizes rejecting unfair labels and embracing their buried inner spirit of rebellion. But because the masks are attached to their face initially, tearing it off the first is equivalent to literally ripping off their skin. So, very painful.

  • @wnabi8469
    @wnabi8469 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is insane i did not even imagine that someone might have played smt and even smt spin offs but not touched or even heard of the main gameplay or concept of the persona games

  • @silvey5697
    @silvey5697 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first time I didn't hear someone stumble their words during the Persona 1 opening...

  • @ravenknight4195
    @ravenknight4195 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i heard you mention it during the persona 5 opening, but in case you werent aware already from other comments, the big nose man is named Igor, and hes pretty much the only consistantly re-occuring character in the franchise, as he runs the "Velvet Room" the place where the protagonists can fuse and organize their persona's

  • @44.caliberbrainsurgery63
    @44.caliberbrainsurgery63 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lol i just remembered the controversy around Persona 3 when it came out and parents were complaining about the method they use to summon their personas.

  • @silv4276
    @silv4276 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was one of the best reactions to the openings I've seen. I love that you started off with Digital Devil saga! I hope you enjoy the vibes and I'm really excited for you to get to play these as you get to them. The music is a bop for sure for all of them hands down. The dancing games are rhythm games and they were surprisingly fun! Also yes there are some criss crossover games as well as the fighting spinoffs. Poor Female Protagonist- she is never remembered (we got ONE option to play as her in the persona 3 portable version but Atlus likes to forget she ever existed)

  • @keimata905
    @keimata905 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just seeing you vibe to the song of P1 Remake made me so happy. It's so underrated!
    Also, P3, in all it's forms, forever!

  • @scarletrose8766
    @scarletrose8766 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dunno if anyone mentions it but the snowman is jackfrost and i think its the shinmegami/persona mascot for thier games with persona being a shin megami tensei spinoff afterall....

  • @meandmyfandoms1230
    @meandmyfandoms1230 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually persona has been described as digimon for adults (or digimon as persona for all ages)! Thedigiknow released a video on it like last week and a lot of people compare the cyber sleuth games to persona 5 especially ( in terms of game play and some story elements).

  • @amuro9624
    @amuro9624 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gale going "I do not comprehend" every scene was my favorite thing in DDS 😂

  • @FaisLittleWhiteRaven
    @FaisLittleWhiteRaven 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh boy a chance for my niche knowledge in symbolism/tropes to help clarify something! =D
    The butterfly effect is indeed used in scifi/time travel stuff a lot: Specifically it's a shorthand way of saying 'A tiny thing can radically effect much larger systems' with the original phrase being referenced being: "a flap of a butterfly's wings causes a hurricane on the other side of the world" (I believe the original phrase is Chinese in origin but I'm not sure).
    The P1 opening is NOT actually referring to that however.
    Rather the 'I dreamt I was a butterfly' stuff is actually a quote from a rather famous Buddhist koan (a 'helping others on the path to enlightenment' riddle/question poetry thing) designed to help question the concept of 'the self'.
    Specifically, the koan raises the idea that since there's ultimately no functional difference between the speaker and the butterfly in regards to 'the dream' then there is no functional difference between them and the butterfly in the waking world either... Much like how according to Buddhism the separate distinctions of all things is a collective illusion/lie we're all trapped by, and being able to truly understand this helps us along the path of breaking free of the flow of cause and effect (aka karma) and thus closer to reaching enlightenment (aka the knowledge to free us fully from the karmic cycle/samsara that traps and torments us).
    So... Yeah. It's basically some pretty heavy 'What am I? What is reality?' kinda stuff which is much closer to what the Persona series as a whole is all about, though the series using butterfly symbolism for 'self transformation' and the like is also not uncommon (could also argue that specific games such as P3P make use of 'the butterfly effect' as well) so yeah. Hope that helped clarify a few things~

  • @namegoeshere8564
    @namegoeshere8564 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To clear up what each intro actually is:
    Persona 1, 2 Innocent Sin, 2 Eternal Punishment, 3, 4, and 5 are the main games
    3 FES, 4 Golden, and 5 Royal are essentially deluxe versions of 3, 4, and 5, adding in various quality of life plus some extra story content
    Persona 3 Portable is a weird case, it's another P3 remake, but is actually missing content from FES, but adds in a female MC
    The Q games are crossover games featuring the teams from 4 and 3, and then Q2 adds 5
    The dancing games are just rhythm games using Persona characters
    Arena is a fighting game using Persona 3 and 4 characters, with Ultimax as a deluxe version/sequel (has the Arena story plus a new one)
    Scramble is a sequel/spinoff to 5 using hack and slash gameplay instead of turn based
    Timestamps for convenience, since I explained them out of order
    Persona 1 - 2:21
    Persona 2 Innocent Sin - 6:16
    Persona 2 Eternal Punishment - 9:50
    Persona 3 - 11:30
    Persona 3 FES - 14:28
    Persona 4 - 16:15
    Persona 1 PSP - 20:12
    Persona 3 Portable - 22:20
    Persona 2 Innocent Sin PSP - 24:00
    Persona 4 Arena - 27:00
    Persona 2 Eternal Punishment PSP - 28:48
    Persona 4 Golden - 30:27
    Persona 4 Arena Ultimax - 32:04
    Persona Q - 33:55
    Persona 4 Dancing - 35:38
    Persona 5 - 37:13
    Persona 3 Dancing - 38:37
    Persona 5 Dancing - 40:18
    Persona Q2 - 41:59
    Persona 5 Royal - 43:44
    Persona 5 Scramble/Strikers - 45:25
    Persona 3 Reload - 47:22
    There's also Persona 5 Tactica, a sequel/spinoff to Persona 5 Royal that takes place shortly after the final boss of the game, but before the credits roll using gameplay similar to Mario & Rabbids, or other tacitcs games. It wasn't in the video, so I'll just link the intro here: th-cam.com/video/g6FKI-bXptk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=E-SHmixq9GhaMgxr