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- I have no clue what Persona is about, I have heard of it over the years due to people saying they have the best video game OST but over the past few weeks social media has been relentless about making sure I see it so my curiosity lead me to this video lol.
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(I don’t hate dancing its just funny and random to see after all the serious subject matter going on I thought I was clear that I was joking but enough people can’t tell so here you go 😭)
Well how’s that for a surprise? Hopefully you enjoyed taking a look at me seeing something completely brand new lol, i adore the music and aesthetic to the point where I’m almost curious to try it
I’ll let actions peak though like, comment and subscribe to fill me in on details and tell me if I should try a persons game!
(Btw RIP to Akira Toriyama again, if you want to leave comments about that go to my tribute video it’s not monetised I just wanna leave it there out of our combined passion)
Hey man love your channel
I would highly recommend watching all the fate openings the animation and the music are bangers and will blow you away. The fan base is also very welcoming and would love to see your reactions. If you need a playlist for all the openings I can make one for you. Keep up the grind 👍👍👍
Well the persona dude here, p 3 4 5 are the og Vers (turn based jrpg with more flare/social sim tied to it) p 3fes (extra dlc stoty) p3portable(another protaganist) p4 golden p5 royal are remakes. Persona 4 arena is a fighting game that also contains aged up versions of the persona 3 cast and arena ultimax is the remake. Persona Q is a spinoff series of persona that does a lot of crossovers. Persona dancing is shit. Persona 5 tactica is an xcom like. Persona 3 reload is the remake of persona 3 with modern graphics and the extra story from fes will be added as dlc
P3 is the best
Sorry if this is too long bro this is a lot of bs to explain lmao
Well the persona dude here, p 3 4 5 are the og Vers (turn based jrpg with more flare/social sim tied to it) p 3fes (extra dlc stoty) p3portable(another protaganist) p4 golden p5 royal are remakes. Persona 4 arena is a fighting game that also contains aged up versions of the persona 3 cast and arena ultimax is the remake. Persona Q is a spinoff series of persona that does a lot of crossovers. Persona dancing is shit. Persona 5 tactica is an xcom like. Persona 3 reload is the remake of persona 3 with modern graphics and the extra story from fes will be added as dlc
P3 is the best. In persona the characters fight shadows using the power of persona a manifestation of their true selves (think Jojo stands) the main 3 games themes are accepting death (p3, symbolised by shooting yourself) Changing your fate (p4, symbolised by shattering tarot card) and breaking societal norms and being your true self (p5, symbolised by removing the mask you wear to fit into society).
Sorry this was bs long it's a lot to explain
Well to put it simple persona series is a spin off from another another game series called shin megami tensei
Both series has some supernatural backgrounds and apocalyptic proportion threats
The called personas are supernatural beings that represent part of one true self in the game lore.
Persona 1 and 2 are kinda different from the rest of the series they are more mature happening in the college and stuff. (Don't know much about these, haven't played)
Persona 3 onwards they reinvented the series they gave it a new style focusing in creating social interactions with other characters along the turn battles and rpg elements, the apocalyptic themes still are presents but happen alongside your student life, you have to make friends to get stronger in order to save these friends from impending doom.
Persona 3 main theme is death, and the game is full of symbology and other religious themes, the characters uses evokers to summon their "personas" that they use to fight, but these evokers reassemble guns and have some psychological meaning behind it, you have to kill the illusion the fake self to release the true self.
Persona 3 fes and persona 3 portable are special versions that added new elements to the base game.
Persona 4 is about a policial investigation with mysterious elements, just like the third one have social and high school life elements mixed with the supernatural stuff. But now they don't use those gun shaped evokers, they have to face their inner selfs, The persona 4 Golden is a special version that had one extra episode in the main story, the persona 4 arena is a 2D fighting game, dance all night is a dancing game.
Persona 5 is about fake heros, fake villains and criminals , once again it presents the students life with rpg and supernatural elements together, but now they take masks off as evokers, persona 5 royal is a special version with extra stuff just like persona 4 Golden.
Persona 5 strikers is an action game and works like a direct sequel and spin off from the original persona 5
All the games happen in the same time line and are sequencial, but independent from one another. Persona 5 happens after persona 4 and both happens after persona 3 and so goes on, but they are not direct sequels you can start from anywhere you decide and won't have problems with the story, they only have some references and easter eggs pointing to previous facts from the universe.
Sorry about any misleading information, I am new to the series as a whole, and English is not my mother language, sorry about any mistakes I made. I hope I helped explaining things somehow
in persona 3 they point gun shaped devices called evokers to summon their persona because its a mental trigger while overcoming the fear of death
This is the first time i hear someone call Igor the "local dealer", and to be honest it's a really accurate statement
Really?! 😭😭😭
@@zero38xt you gotta see it to believe it
IKR???? 😭😭😭
Tbh he acts weirdly most of the time, but weird in a sense that he barely tells you about him and it's all a mystery
you might call him... a persona dealer lol
@@dragond4rk153 true.
Wait until he realizes that this series is one giant *spinoff*
Maybe the persona are the spinoffs we meet along the way
This information has blown my mind.
@@zero38xtfun fact the series it’s spun off on Shin Megami Tensei is a spinoff from the other game series Megami Tensei, which is a spinoff from the book digital devil story
All the spinning makes my head hurt lol
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Ooooooo! Tell him about SMT Stephen Hawking!
A funny detail in the beginning of the Persona 3 Reload opening, it is confirmed that the music in the game itself is just the main character listening to the soundtrack
The main character got taste then from what I’ve heard
Sht was confirmed in the first game and the movie, Pe3 Op scene had Makoto listening to burn my dread, so did the movies.
Also I think that canonically p4 singer is Rise of the ost in canon cuz of her singing on the festival having the same voice and stuff.
“This ones mad Positive” 💀💀
Emotional trauma jumpscare
Rule #1 of the Persona franchise: never expect it to be positive, even when the visuals says otherwise lmao.
LMAAOO
Words said moments before disaster.
"Why are they dancing?"
*looks at title of game*
Persona 4 Dancing all night
hmmmmmmmmm
The Persona series is based off Carl-Jngian psychology. The various groups travel to a world based on the collective unconscience of people's minds to fight monsters with their Persona (soul self). The plots differ, but the basis of attending school, forging relationships, and fighting monsters is reatined as the series holds a good balance of story and rog gameplay.
Ok you guys are REALLY making me curious about this series lol it all sounds so cool 😭
@@zero38xtIf you do decide to play them, you should know that persona 1 & the persona 2 duology were made by a different team than personas 3,4 & 5. They have very different gameplay because of this, and a lot of people wonder why going in, but the whole series is fun regardless.
Different equipment? No, it's still Atlus. What happens is that the theme was modernized, but they are still part of the saga.@@insertcreativename802
@@zero38xtThey also tackle different concept of society problems as well base on those games release.
Like 3 handle the concept of Death and how people deal with the fear and trouble of it.
4 deal with how society built on prejuice and bias view can lead prople astray from the Truth of humanity growth and charactics.
So not only are they full characters written to furfil a certain roles and ideas, but they actaully tackle social problems without being over bearing and insulting to those problems.
Jngian? You really butchered the name there.
“I’m hoping it turns up out of nowhere” THAT TIMING 😭
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Also to give a spoiler free explanation of why they're shooting themselves in the head 💀. Essentially each game has a different story theme going on, and the way the Persona's are summoned reflect that *MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD*
The theme of P3 is moreso Death/Loss and overcoming it. Which is why they use the "guns" (evokers) as a way to overcome the _fear_ of death and become stronger.
In P4, for me at least its a bit difficult to explain but they crush Tarot cards, sorta as a way to show you can shape your own destiny.
And in P5, they rip a mask off their face , which signifies removing the mask you wear in society to fit in, and embracing your inner rebellious spirit.
And yeah thats the most major spoiler free way i can explain it lol
Wait that all sounds kinda cool lol wait a minute
Yeah, 4 is about create your own future, "Reach Out to the Truth" and accept who you are. The whole game revolves around the Tarot Cards because the truth is hard to grasp, as the world often tries to hide from it in their own blissful ignorance, so the team crush the Cards to summon their Personas as a symbolism for it, they accept the truth and make it their strength.
It also comes with amazing OST, characters and areas@@zero38xt
@@zero38xt Each game has a unique way to summon their personas.
@@laiofurious6433maybe it’s safe to say that P4 is kinda like Clue the board game 😂 You know cuz of the whole “reach out to the truth” and “tell me why you did it” themes?
So just a quick summary of the timeline staying as spoiler free as possible
Persona 1- A group of teenagers play the Persona Game and are given the power of Persona by a God. They then use this power to stop an event called the Eternal Night that would end the world and travel between dimensions to stop Takahisa Kandori from becoming God and eradicating humanity. In game you can only do one of these two routes but canonically they both happen
Persona 2 Innocent Sin- Set a few years after Persona 1, the game follow Tatsuya Suou and his friends after they are attacked by a being known as Joker who grants the wishes or whoever summons him. When they attempt it though, he tries to kill them declaring it punishment for the sin they committed ten years ago. It's up to them remember what they did and stop Joker along with his cult, The Masked Circle
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment- This one's hard to dodge spoilers but basically just know this game and all Persona games after it is set in an alternate timeline where Innocent Sin didn't happen. The game follows Maya Amano, a party member in Innocent Sin, as she tries to uncover the truth about the Joker killings, leading her to team up with some new faces and even some of the Persona 1 characters to stop a grand conspiracy to end the world outside of Sumaru City
Persona 3- From this point on, the games only have a loose connection outside of spinoffs. On Tatsumi Port Island, a hidden hour exists where monsters known as Shadows thrive, devouring the brains of any human being unfortunate enough to be caught in it. However, a group of Persona users funded by the Kirijo Group are immune to the effects of the Dark Hour and use their power to find a means of destroying it
Persona 4- In the small town of Inaba, a series of untraceable serial killings have begun as the killer is pushing their victims into a world inside the TVs. The TV world, like the Dark Hour of P3, is filled with Shadows and covered by a fog that is dangerous to humans, leading to the death of the victim. A group of high schoolers, with the help of a weird thing named Teddie, unlock the power of Persona and resolve to end the killings, rescuing anyone thrown into the TV along the way
Persona 4 Arena/Ultimax- One of the few direct sequels, the Arena games take place during Golden Week. The protagonist goes to visit his friends only to find half of them have been kidnapped. He and his remaining friends return to the TV World to save them, running into the grown up members of the Persona 3 cast and a strang girl named Labrys who claims to be the student council president of their high school despite none of them ever meeting her before
Persona 5- A group of teenagers discover the Metaverse, a word made up of the cognition of those in the real world. With the power of their Personas, and the advice of a cat-like being named Morgana, they form the Phantom Thieves of Hearts and use the Metaverse to force the corrupt members of society to confess to their crimes
Persona 5 Strikers- During summer vacation, The Phantom Thieves decide to go on a road trip but upon returning to the Metaverse, they learn of these new places called Jails, city-wide domains in which anyone who enters has their desires stolen, making them subservient to the Monarch. With intel from Inspector Zenkichi Hasegawa, the Thieves go from city to city, changing the hearts of the monarchs and giving the stolen desires back to the people
And that's everything without getting even more into alternate timeline junk which is pretty much begging for spoilers and I won't do that. One last thing, Persona 3 FES, Portable, Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal are re-releases of the original game with more content
I feel personas 3-5 are definitely solidly connected. In persona 4 they explicitly go to tatsumi port and meet a social link to 3, and in P3P the female mc meets a main cast member of 4, and ofc there are multiple direct references to persona 4 in persona 5 most common being the constant connections made between Goro Akechi and Naoto Shirogane. Also without getting too spoilery the events of p3 kind of create a domino effect that causes the events of 4 and 5
@@KNXCKLE Yes but they aren't nearly as connected as 1-Eternal Punishment where characters, arcs and even the central antagonist carry over across the three games. While everything you said is true, you can still play Persona 3, 4 and 5 in any order without missing much besides those references to past games
Correction for Persona 3, Dark hour is a Phenomena that exists wherever you might be, the focal point is just on the Tatsumi Port Island
@@Cheese-kz5io Ah my bad! I thought it was just limited to Tatsumi Port Island. Though now I'm imagining the P1 cast just doing their thing and suddenly everyone transmogrifies but them
@@connorharnage6697 If Persona 2 is set in 1999 and Persona 3 is set in 2009 and the Dark Hour only occurred 10 years before P3 then I think Dark hour only existed after the events of P2
They only really made the Dancing games because the soundtrack of all the games go hard as fuck (as you have noticed), and since Japan is big on Rythm games, they decided to make Rythm games based on each big Persona (meaning Persona 3, 4 and 5)
Oh that makes perfect sense now lol, thanks a lot because the pivot from RPGs to fighting games to dancing seemed SO strange 😭
@@zero38xt Yeah I feel you, I felt the exact same when I got more into the series, even the fighting games were weird to me at the beginning, but they all pop off like crazy. Have a good one man!
Also all the side games are direct sequels and canon to the timeline.
@@declanmckenna6854 none of them are cannon lol. The p3 and 5 dancing take place in a dream they dont remember same for the Q games. 4AU might be but i doubt it, and god knows tactica isnt cannon. portable isnt cannon based off of the sole existence of F3MC and how they wont ever let her exist. then all the other games and their main re-release are in 2 diff cannons (p3 and fes/reload, 4/4golden 5/5R ect...) although strikers could be cannon based on the normal P5 cannon
@@ShinyRISM’sorry, they were right mostly right. Re-releases that majorly change or add to main story are obviously alternate timelines, yes, but every spin-off game is made to comply with canon. P3R takes the place of regular P3 and P3FES in timeline, even if it has minor changes. Strikers is canon, as is Tactica, even if it is difficult to place correctly, as they both comply with both P5 and P5R, at least time wise.
Edit: In conclusion, what you were discussing is not canonicity for most of the games you mention. P3D and P5D happened, they don’t remember it. Same for Q games. P4A and P4AU are at least canon to each other, and most likely in general, as P5 does mention Yukari Takeba as a famous actress from a superhero show, and if I can take a guess it’s likely that in Jp line it says tokusatsu, implying featherman, so that happened. FeMC is in her own world and is only canon thanks to Q2, if not, then she wouldn’t be.
In Persona 3 they use evokers (gun) to shoot themselves in order to use their personas. In the game they are constantly shooting themselves to use skills. In all the other persona games they can just summon them without having to shoot themselves
*with the uses of mediums !
persona users since 3 had to use mediums (evokers , cards , masks) in order to summon their persona but persona strikers showed that you can use your persona without a medium with just willpower just like in persona 1 and 2
It’s needed as something to get them going. It’s stated persona 3 users don’t even need to use a evoker to summon either.
They don't need the evokers, apparently it just makes it easier. I also think they need em if they wanna summon their persona during daytime or outside the TV world (as stated in arena)
@@tinksouffle In p3 it's stated that just bringing them out without the evokers is extremely draining especially with the protag where they can wield two at once and the evokers are necessary if they want to bring out the persona outside of their respective metaverses.
"I was left with more questions than answers"
My best recommendation to solve those questions is: Play the games. They're very long (P5R is around 120 hours or so), but it's totally worth it.
That’s an INSANE amount of time 😭 longest I’ve taken to beat a game was Elden ring at like 80+ but I do kinda want a game to grind
@@zero38xt Trust me when I say this to you, try at least one of them. The beginning can be slow, yes, but as time and the story goes on, it gets better and better every time. The calendar mechanic, the social links/confidants, fusing personas, or just doing random bs as working or wasting your time eating has a good charm.
And yes, you can do all that in the modern games (3 to 5, that includes Reload too).
To add a note: My Persona 4 Golden playthrough (the best version to play the game) took me 95 hours to complete the game. And the new game plus mechanic only adds more to the experience, since you can replay the game again.
@@zero38xt i suggest playing persona 3 reload, 4 golden, or 5 royal (5 is my favorite easily a 10/10)
Mainline persona games are tun-based JRPG.
Persona 2 is a duology of games.
Persona 1 and 2 are *REALLY* different from persona 3-5
Persona 3 have several different versions and all of them are different:
P3 FES is a better version of original with an epilogue story campaign(for ps2)
P3 Portable is a port for psp with really downgraded graphics, P4 combat changes(but it was not rebalanced with them in mind, but its not like P4 was hard or something) and female main character (often referred as FemC). FemC route has A LOT of differences from original story, but still have the same ending.
P3 Reload is a remake of original P3 with some little additions from FES, Battle system from P3 Portable, some mechanics from P4 and P5 and few brand new mechanics. New dlc for it is a remarke of epilogue from P3 FES.
P4 has a rerelease called P4 Golden, it is just P4 but better.
P4 Arena games *are* fighting games, they also continuing story from P3 FES but leaves it on a cliffhanger for no reason.
Dancing games are rhythm games, P4 Dancing only really deserves attention because it has actual story and Specialist dance.
PQ games are supposed to be crossover with Etrian Odyssey but only have gameplay from it.
P5 Royal is expanded version of P5.
P5 Strikers is an action-based spin-off of p5, also it is technically a sequel for it, i quess...
P5 Tactica is turn-based strategy spin-off, really similar to XCOM
There is also P5 Chinese gacha game in beta testing stage of development
I think that's all if you don't count that Persona is just a part of Megami Tensei franchise, but explaining it will take too much time
Thanks for this rundown of all the games! I had no idea persona had this much going on especially in terms of the spinoffs and re releases. I’m curious about trying one lol
@@zero38xtI recommend you play Persona 5 Royal or Persona 3 Reload first since they are the best ones for new players.
The original Persona 1's intro, as a fan of the game, is so interesting to me. It really doesnt want to drum up hype because really, persona 1 isnt a hyped game. The stakes are real, but ultimately it wants to come off as reflective, as something asking you to look inward first and foremost.
Interesting interpretation! I’ll agree it doesn’t conform to what I’d expect but you could argue that’s a good thing and allows it to stand on its own
Yeah, P1 and P2 are more darker in tone. Funny enough that Twitch labels them into JRPG and Horror categories 😅😊
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That One Piece diss was outta nowhere bruh 💀
If you want a short summary on each game
P3 is about embracing death and dealing with the pain of loss and suffering and find their own reason for living no matter how painful it may be
P4 is about seeking the truth no matter how painful or scary it may be you must embrace it if you want to move on with the struggles In life
P5 is about rebelling against the chains society unfairly casted upon you and not let yourself get shackled by the suffering they put upon you
This all sounds so sick 😭
I like the terror in his voice when he saw teddie
In what world is that a Teddie 😭
@@zero38xt in japanese it's name is kuma (means bear in case you're wondering)
@@zero38xt the world where it makes many bear related puns.
It's bear-y irritating
Persona 4 arena and ultimax are both 2d fighters developed by arcsys. Same people who worked on DBFZ
Oh it’s arc sys? That’s good lol I’ve enjoyed everything from them that I’ve tried so far
@@zero38xt ultimax recently had a big multiplatform port/rerelease. It's pretty wild.
Every new persona reactors at the beginning: why this is so unlit, bro??
Old persona fans: Patience, bro. Patience.
Glad I was lol the improvement was insane 😭
"why are they dancing?" Yeah believe me after you gone through roller coaster of emotion from the main game you will just jump into that game even tho you're not into dancing/ rythm game.
Oh. They’re that depressing? It’s actually believable after watching these
@@zero38xtdepressing as in a empty void left in your heart depressing and you want to something to fill that void.
P1 & P2 are more similar to it's sister franchise Shin Megami Tensei. SMT has generally darker tones & tends to always deal with an apocalypse & makes the player chose the route of order or chaos. Persona 1 is actually inspired by a 1 off game called SMT "IF" which is kinda like... what "if" SMT involved teenagers in a school setting. So, (especially in 1) the undertones are supposed to be mysterious & spooky. P2 follows suit BUT it's second part is meant to hype you up for the conclusion of the first part so it's opening is more peppy.
All the games have their fans & it's a fact that with tech changing & evolving & them testing the waters (and getting a new director) lots of things were swapped & dropped. People more into SMT tend to like the early game's concepts & tones more. However, in the west, most people were introduced to Persona 3 & 4 first, since P1 & P2 has a lot of issues when being brought to overseas. So the moral inducing drama was re-directed back to the SMT franchise & left the youthful vibe of school years to color the Persona franchise from 3 onward. P3 still being a bit darker a subject matter than the rest, is still tonally different in its music & aesthetic than P1 & P2.
Also, I hate to say it like this but... kids had more patience back in the day to sit through something quiet & non flashy. 😅 Sorry for being a boomer but I re-watched older movies & play older games recently & it really becomes noticeable how everything now needs to be more fast pace & over stimulating. Back then, just the pauses & moments of quiet conveyed so much mood to media. Kinda sad we're loosing that.
I'm sure other has said it below somewhere but:
Persona is like Final Fantasy where each game is its own story.
So P1 is its own story.
P2 has 2 games.
P3-P4 (their own games)
P5 has it's main game & P5 Strikers is it's direct sequel with a different, more action based, play style.
They have all had re-mastered/re-releases versions with add on stories & quality of life improvements over the years.
They've also had an unimaginable amount of spin offs from fighting games to rhythm games & A SLEW of Crossovers. Also, you might know Joker because he's in Smash Bros!
Persona 3 had a head-to-toe remake this February as well since it's a fandom favorite. So yes... the Persona series is VAST.
I get what you mean but it makes sense that entertainment got to this point, attention spans are lower nowadays and the market is extremely saturated now so you have to be bold and distinct to stand out and hook people quickly
I recommend Persona 3 Reload as a great first game in the franchise. It's easily the most accessible in terms of content and gameplay.
Starting with 3, they changed directors, and they decided to make the games way more stylized and character-driven to make the franchise more distinguished from Shin Megami Tensei, the series Persona is a spin-off of. The games are essentially a life simulator with turn based combat (sorta like an adult/ more complicated version of Pokemon if you haven't played other JRPGs). Each of the games tends to have a major underlying theme that persists through the stories of all the characters you meet and through the main story. Even the way characters use their Personas is symbolic to each respective games' theme. If you're a person who likes a lot of dialogue and character development, these are the games for you.
I did NOT know persona itself was a spin-off 😭 that’s pretty cool that it became popular enough to stand on its own though
I'm sure a decent amount of Persona fans don't know. Shin Megami Tensei just isn't popular in the US. They're not very narratively strong games. It's mostly about the gameplay for them. They're also pretty hard, so they tend to turn a lot of people off. @@zero38xt
NOOO WAYYY, I usually don't comment but i had to, i was not expecting you to cover this, honsetly i hope you enjoy the series i really enjoy it myself.
I am WAY more curious about it than before, but I’m very surprised by how many of you are fans and are vouching for it so maybe!
Persona 3 reload just came out and it was a much awaited remake of the original persona 3 from 2006, and honestly it’s probably the best place to start in terms of quality of life features. Persona games follow a story of a main character throughout a year where you balance their real life relationships with going into dungeons and fighting enemies called shadows. The persona is basically a character from culture or mythology that acts as your mask, and the characters summon them to fight shadows. Strengthening bonds with characters in the real world strengthens your personas in the alternate world basically. The mainline persona games of 3, 4, and 5 focus on characters progressing through a story and finding their true self through different means. In persona 3 they face death (the pistols that they call evokers simulate this), in persona 4 they turn to fate (hence crushing the tarot cards), and persona 5 they rip off their mask and rebel against unjust authority. These themes are the focuses of the main story also.
Thanks for the explanation! Yeah this all sounds super cool I won’t lie I’m interested 😭
Personas are a reflection of your true self, your personality. Which shapes what kind of persona you obtain and what arcana you are bestowed upon.
Thus the stronger you become as a person, the stronger your personae ends up becoming, sometimes sparking an evolution.
Explaining it as just a random god you get randomly is hella incorrect. Not that it rlly matters ig
@@critical_6164 no it’s not some random god you get, but the personas are derived from cultural and mythological characters. The persona a character receives is a reflection of their true selves represented by this character is how I thought of it. I never said it’s some random God.
This was probably answered already, but the reason they shoot themselves is to prove that they aren't afraid of death, and that courage allows them to summon their inner strength, being their persona
That’s very cool lol I actually saw a few people say the theme of this one is death so I guess all the games summon based on their theme?
The butterfly is a god called philemon and he's the reason that igor "the local dealer" exists
Oh no ones mentioned that yet I dont think
I haven’t seen a comment explaining it yet, so here it is Golden & Royal are the definitive versions of Persona 4 & 5 respectively. Reload is the closest thing we have to a definitive version we will ever have about 3, especially with the expansion pass adding Episode-Aigis/The-Answer the additional portion of the story added in F.E.S. The female protagonist and her story is still locked to Persona 3 Portable hell unfortunately.
Thanks for the explanation! So I guess the definitive versions make the previous ones obsolete? And yeah idk how I feel about a remake having dlc that already existed before but companies exist to make money I guess 😭
@@zero38xt Yea, you can still play the original versions, but those aren’t canon anymore and would generally Recommend Golden over the basis P4, and I couldn’t imagine P5 without the things Royal added, plus Reload is a lot better in a lot of ways from the original P3 or F.E.S. it’s even better than Portable in terms of quality of life features witch Portable added a bunch of.
Basically they love making “directors cut” versions of the main titles a few years later that have usually ~1.5x the content with some things streamlined/new features etc. That’s what P3 FES, P4 Golden, P5 Royal were.
The rest are mostly spin-off games which aren’t canon, or remasters/new versions for PSP, the exceptions to that are P4 Dancing (they decided the story was canon I guess), P5 Strikers, and P3 Reload.
The Q games are spin-off crossover games for the 3DS between the most popular entries that have the same turn based battles but are otherwise play like the Etrian Oddysey series.
The dancing games are just rhythm games. The Persona 4 Arena games are 2D fighting games made by Arc System Works (who made blaz-blue and Guilty Gear).
Persona 5 Strikers is a realtime action rpg codeveloped with Koei Tecmo (who make the Dynasty Warriors games) but it is a full fledged sequel to Persona 5 and much more than other warriors spin-off games you’ll see.
P3 Reload is a remake from the ground up of the original P3 (2006) which was released on the PS2. The gameplay is modernized to be up to date with Persona 5 and they are adding additional content from the FES version as DLC.
Seems like the company (Altus?) is very money hungry lol because I despise the idea of buying a game only for a better version to drop a lil later for full price. Btw saw your comment earlier about the dancing and dw I’m not serious it’s just funny seeing the contrast between the serious subject matter then suddenly dancing.
My fault for not getting the words out to explain mid video but when I watched it back I thought me smiling and laughing after each time was enough but persona fans can’t pickup on that I guess 😭
@@zero38xt even they admit that they went too hard on P4 with the spinoffs and crossover promotions. P4 Golden was PSVITA only and was their first big success in North America for Persona. Persona 3 did well but didn’t print money like Persona 4 did.
Persona 3 reload soundtrack reaction? 👀 ngl i like the suprise
Not sure yet let’s see how this video does lol
@@zero38xtfull song for full moon full life ❤
It did, indeed, do good @@zero38xt
Persona music be so good then they start shooting themselves
I’m saying
Tactica is a turn-based tactical RPG, in the vein of something like Final Fantasy Tactics or Disgaea... or to regrettably use something more current, Mario vs Rabbids.
Is it also kinda like fire emblem? I actually tried awakening a bit ago so these tactical RPGs seem alright to me so far lol
@@zero38xt I wouldn't really compare to FE. P5T is more about using cover for protection and Persona to knock enemies out of cover.
Yess my favourite franchise ever I’m glad you’re reacting to this
I’m glad you enjoyed it! This definitely was interesting
The first two person openings are a little less boring when the quotes are translated - The quote in the Persona 1 opening is a Buddhist koan (that is, philosphy poem kinda thing) about the nature of reality vs dreams ("I dreamt I was a Butterfly"), while Persona 2's quote I think was from some sort of tragic romance media which I'm not familiar with but generally there's a lot of emphasis on mirrors and the speaker being horrified at seeing someone else with their face reflecting their own heartbreak towards some woman who is implied to be dead.
The series in general uses a LOT of Juangian psychology terms and symbolism, some of it outright (Persona, Shadow, the sea of collective human consciousness/Sea of Souls are all concepts used or referenced multiple times) while some other stuff IS in there but a bit more subtle (I'm near 90% certain the Velvet Room Attendants are meant to be the protagonist's anima/animus but like, that's very much 'not needed to be known or ever stated in game' stuff XD)
And yeah, much as I love the Persona openings they're not exactly a great introduction to the series for newbies outside of hooking them on the vibes.
More 'fun symbolism you can come back to and overanalyse' after you've played the game and are able to go 'Oh. Ooohhhh so that's what that meant..!' next to bopping music and showing off the main cast and general aesthetic~ XD
(Side note: a LOT of things in the game are symbolism, like the P3 shooting yourself? Yeah the characters have to do that for explained in game reasons but like, the implications of what it means that in order to fight they have to willingly hold a gun to their own head... I'll just say the P3 cast be having a hard time of things and just leave it at that XDDD)
As for which is best out of 3, 4 and 5... That's honestly going to depend on what kind of tone and story you like most as they've all got fantastic plots, music and characters.
Personally P5 -Royal- is my fav because of its aesthetic (love all that red and jazzy music) and it's kind of a mix between phantom thievery plots and noir, but like P3's hip hop/rap minimalism and death/life themes, and P4's J Pop, realism/70s colour bombing and mix of murder mystery and self discovery are all pretty great
I’m glad you had fun watching the video! And thanks for letting me know a lot of details that I’d NEVER be able to pick up on lol. I couldn’t have imagined there was so much going on with this franchise and I love being educated on cool stuff like this along with analysing the deeper meaning behind themes too, I’m tempted to maybe give one of these a try 😭
@@zero38xt Hehe~ You're welcome!
And if you're a fan of JRPGs I'd highly recommend them, though once played it can be kinda hard going back to other series since the quality jump can be a lot~ XD
As for which to start with... I'd recommend either Persona 5 Royal, Persona 3 FES or Reload (the choice between FES and Reload is almost entirely between 'do you want better animated cutscenes and some plot stuff as automatically with the game and not DLC (FES) or do you want the newest version with a LOT of upgraded stuff but perhaps weaker aesthetics?' (Reload)), or Persona 4 Golden (P4G is more than little dated UI and graphics wise compared to P5R and P3R but comparable to most regular JRPGs so like, it's definitely playable but might be hard to go back to after playing the other two).
As for which of those three, I'd say go for whatever most fits your preference in aesthetics and story blurb - they're all good, all set in the same world, and aside from some really minor stuff in P5 (mostly hidden easter eggs and one 'should be major but kinda isn't' plotpoint) you don't lose anything by playing them out of number order, though slight warning, P3 and *especially* P4 take a while to get you to the active gameplay as they've got loads and loads of plot setup happening. It's good stuff but felt I should give a heads up just in case you're the energetic 'need to do things now' sort of player~ XD
If I were to play one it’d probably be reload but I generally don’t mind games being slow to start if they’re cool enough, whether it’s aesthetics or just building up interesting characters or the world it’s fine as long as I’m not being bored. I appreciate you and everyone else helping me out!
Was NOT expecting this but its more than welcome 😮
Seems like a lot of you like this franchise lol I’m surprised
NAH! The one stream i couldn't catch because of work is when you do Persona! 😭
Good thing you get to watch this video at the very least 😂
"Oh they're shooting themselves again".
Yep, and we LOVE IT.
Now that I’ve tried persona 3. It’s cool 😭
Had to hold my tongue every time you disrespected the first 2 games Ngl but I get it, they don’t really have any meaning if you haven’t played the games (and also this video didn’t have the poetry untranslated so you were just staring at Japanese text for half of them 💀)
also i really appreciate you trying to limit how much you said "whats going on" because ive watched a ton of persona opening reactions at this point and my favorites are always the ones that try to pay attention and comment on the visuals and characters and stuff instead of just acting confused the entire time
I’m very thankful at how patient you and other people have been with me during this video lol.
I watch reaction videos for things too! So I understand what can be irritating but when your watching something you have no knowledge of it can be difficult to focus or resist the urge to get lost in confusion 😭
@@zero38xtYe i agree, some people are used to over saturated fake reactions. I appreciate more reactions like yours where you actually seem like you’re honest with what you think.
lmao me too I was on the verge of just clicking away. When he said he's in it for the music i kinda had an expectation oh this is gonna be nice a dude that likes music as in not just what he prefers good thing i push through still fun to watch after that with a little sting to comments like "now they're trying" lmao but all in all good vid.
Persona 3 has always become my all time favourite Opening😁(Great video as always)
There were like 3 or 4 persons 3 openings but reload is my favourite among them I’m pretty sure. Glad you enjoyed this! I didn’t expect to even make this video
PERSONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!
A video from Zero i never knew i needed until i got it LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO
Wait I’ve JUST realised your profile is persona now
@@zero38xt Yuhhhhhhh
Hey man love your channel
I would highly recommend watching all the fate openings the animation and the music are bangers and will blow you away. The fan base is also very welcoming and would love to see your reactions. If you need a playlist for all the openings I can make one for you. Keep up the grind 👍👍👍
P4 dance is amazing in terms of just the cannonicity of it. So much so that someone else in the series gets jealous that the P4 crew got to beat a world ending threat through dance that she made her own version of the adventure with the P3 and P5 cast XD
Another fun fact:
The main theme colours from P3 going on was planned from the start. I believe P6 may use a green or darker colour for their theme.
What exactly is there to get jealous over 😭😭😭 anything to make a series I guess lol
@@zero38xt mmm how can i put this in the most spoiler free way possible: Our blue waifu does what she wants~
Ok i know i commented about but to summarise it: persona is a series of jrpgs that mix life sim aspects, each game explores a different plot and group of characters but have mostly similar gameplay, in persona you play as a protagonist and go through your daily life and get to live through each day in a calendar system, you can also date and get to know different characters, alongside that you can go to plot related dungeons alongside your teammates and fight shadows with your persona. Persona is based on a theory from karl jung a psychologist who hypothesised that humans have multiple versions of themselves that they want others to see, a persona, the opposite of that is a shadow the worst part of you that you can’t accept, persona plays on this by having characters literally summon their “other self” as a persona, usually these personas manifest as different mythological characters such as greek mythology etc, shadows in the persona games are evil versions of oneself that display the worst parts of someone, in reality shadows are good and must be accepted in order to be tamed, when a shadow is tamed it becomes a persona. Persona games mix the life sim and rpg mechanics like for example befriending certain characters might yield strong benefits in battle and vice versa. Persona 4 golden, persona 5 royal, persona 3 fes and portable are not sequels but enhanced versions of the same game with extra content and a postgame.
I only played 3, 4, and 5, so I can't really talk about 1 and 2, but bassically, to make some sense
Persona 3 is darker, as shown by the characters shooting themselves in the head. Pressuring themselves to "near death" makes your persona trigger. In other words, by using the gun and putting it to their heads, the characters are putting themselves under pressure, and their soul reacts by releasing the persona.
Persona 4: Persona 4 has a happier vibe, for sure. The main point in that game is that the TV's are a dimension to another world where somehow people are getting pushed into the TVs by some unknown character. Persona 4 is like a murder mystery, and honestly, it's the best game in many peoples eyes.
Persona 5: Persona 5 takes a very different approach by using the metaverse, which is an app that lets you enter anybody's heart. That's why "Steal Your Heart" was in both intros. They (the team in Person 5) go into corrupt people's "hearts" and steal their desires, which change the person in the real world.
Sorry for the delay, I just wanted to somewhat explain.
If I were to give one a shot it’ll probably be 3 because the remake is new but 4 being a happier vibe does gravitate me towards it. Guess time will tell what I’ll do lol thanks for the explanation
I do wish you found the version of all the openings that had the English translations for those first few but I'm glad you got to experience these openings!
Yeah sorry about that but it I can definitely say it was a fun time! Definitely interested in this Persona stuff
no don't be sorry! It's just slightly less boring when you can read what the intro is since the intro is just words XD It's an interesting and long ride. I know other people have mentioned but the core games would be Persona 3 Reload (the one that just came out) Persona 4 Golden, and Persona 5 Royal for the definitive versions. They do all have very different vibes to them and the 'best' is pretty subjective to which ones click the most with the person playing but they all are an interesting ride. And yes so many dancing games because the music is so good across the board. Even all of the background themes get stuck in your head years after. @@zero38xt
Not sure if it was explained in stream but Persona 4 golden was a remake that added some new stuff, and Persona 5 Royal is the same thing, adds some extra stuff, specifically both add a new dungeon, and some new story beats. But imo, the best thing is none of these are connected. Sure, some of the spinoffs are connecting to other games, but thats balanced by the trope of "don't worry, you won't remember this once you fix what's wrong so we don't have continuity errors", which is the case in Q and Q2, while Persona 4 Arena and Ultimax are soft sequels to 4 in a standard fighting game setting, since these games don't typically get sequels (Same with the Dancing games). You do get references to previous games bc the numbered entries take place a couple years after each other (with the exception of 5, which has no set date, though people have made connections to get a proper year). Like you can start with Persona 5 and be perfectly fine, have a good time, then work backwards because while Persona 3 Reload isn't really that hard, Persona 4 can be rough for someone who isn't wellversed in all the mechanics of Persona beforehand (also really fucking grindy if you aren't careful). Now that I think about it, I think Strikers is the closest thing to an actual, full blown story sequel.
Thanks for the rundown, I assume it’s just a business tactic to release definitive versions because if they drop a year later why not just wait an extra year to drop the game? And yeah maintaining continuity for a series such as many games as this seems like a headache 😭
The Persona Q games are actually my favorite Persona games. They're basically collaborations between my 5th favorite video game series (Persona) and my 2nd favorite video game series (Etrian Odyssey)
The aesthetic to them stands out in a series that already has a brilliant and vibrant one! Pretty cool I won’t lie
The only thing i regret about playing persona is that i didnt start to play in 2006 when i was around 11 or 12 😂
Persona 2 has Innocent Sin and Eternal Punishment as direct sequel. Each numbered persona entry is it's own cast of characters and stories. So they wanted to make a sequel to persona 2 to continue the story which is eternal punishment.
Also, other than persona 1&2, each entry gets a definitive edition. With 3's being FES (Before most recently Reload) and also Portable (But having some drawbacks of FES whilst Portable adds FeMC, basically a female protagonist with a different route through the story). Persona 4 getting it's definitive being Golden. And 5 getting Royal. Every other is a spinoff of that numbered entry
"this one's really positive" yeah I thought that too.... At first
It’s so obvious that they’d do that in hindsight 😭
The reason personas 3-5 have such a distinct difference from 1 and 2 is that there is a different director behind the series. Shoji Meguro is the director for the original series and those games are considered more "serious" and "challenging" both gameplay wise and story wise as it follows more with the smt franchise. While Katsura Hashino is the current director that has made the franchise more stylized and mainstream. So 3-5 gets all the spinoffs while 1 and 2 are forgotten but are loved by super fans of the franchise.
Ok this is very interesting I noticed shoji meguros name a lot throughout these too. Do persons fans appreciate the change in direction or do you guys like both takes?
@@zero38xt For people that's into Persona 1 & 2, theres SMT 5 if im not wrong, which has the some of the same principle in it's challenges and gameplay
Shoji Meguro only directed the PSP remakes of P1 and P2, not the original games
Play at least 3 and up. Best decision I made. This music makes up soooo much of my gym playlist haha
Your tempting me lol
I don’t know if anyone has said, but I’ll give a rundown on 3-5 and their spin-offs
3, 3FES (Featival), and 3Portable follow SEES (Specialized Extracurricular Execution Squad), and their journey in the Dark Hour, using Evokers (the gun objects) to summon their Personas. FES added the Answer, an epilogue to expand the story
4 and 4 Golden follow the Investigation Team as they crush cards to summon Personas to save people from being murdered in a TV
4 Arena and Ultimax are fighting games, expanding on both 3 and 4’s stories
5 follows the Phantom Theives to reform society by ripping off masks to summon Personas. Strikers takes place after that story and is a shorter hack-n-slash title. Tactica is in another world, freeing people from slavery.
All Dancing games except 4’s are non-canon, and neither is Tactica. Strikers is canon, and so is the extra content in FES, but not the extra content in Golden or Royal. I recommend playing these games, but be prepared to sink upwards of 100 hours each
I did not expect this
Neither did i
Glad to see the boy reacting to PEAK
I definitely recommend playing! The games have some of the best BGMs I've ever heard (def top 5), and stunning visuals. Persona 3 was recently remade (P3 Reload), and Persona 5 (+ P5 Royal) aren't that old too. If you mention visuals in a video game, I immediately think of Persona 5 (P3R copied the heavy visual style that P5 had). Persona 4 looks a bit janky, but I assume it'll be remade soon enough too. Also Persona 5 Royal, Persona 4 Golden, and Persona 3 FES are all ''upgraded'' versions of the vanilla game, with extra characters, more content, and in P5R's case, a whole new antagonist. Also, P1 and P2 were a lot different than P3, P4 & P5. They were almost entirely different games.
And the reason P3 got remade a lot was because:
P3F - Upgraded version (mentioned above)
P3P - Watered-down for the PSP, also gave a female protag option (hence why the opening was two-sided or whatever)
P3R - Remade with modern graphics and style, after more than a decade
Starting my persona journey by playing through 3 Reload and 5 Royal right now side by side, and i’d say as a newbie like myself, if you are curious on starting the game, you could start either and not go wrong, but so far i am actually in love with 3, it’s style and vibe is just so fantastic.
As a newbie i was left a little too confused by 5 at the start so i dropped it pretty soon after the opening of the game, but after playing for another hour or 2 i saw most of what I learned externally got explained, but in terms of explanation i’d absolutely say that 3 reload gave a newbie like me a lot of guidance without overwhelming me or holding my hand. Personally, I would recommend starting there for that reason alone, on top of the story basically immediately gripping me and the mystery of it all making me want more.
Bonus: It’s on game pass if you have it, so no reason not to give it a go!
I appreciate your comment because I can relate to not knowing anything about the series lol, I agree the vibe of 3 looks infectious and I’m gravitating towards it being the one I could try.
Excessive hand holding annoys me a lot in games so good to know I wouldn’t need to worry about that either, thanks for sharing your experience so far!
Gotta do the battle themes next
The "why are they dancing?!" For persona 4 DANCING all night cracked me up 😂
The Arena games are Fighting games by Arc system works. Specifically it's the same dev team as Blazblue.
Are they any good? I imagine an issue would be netcode if it isn’t rollback
@@zero38xtthe game got a rollback update, so you're good to go
Getting persona 3 reload on games pass was one of the best decisions I’ve made this year - was always skeptical about the series and it takes a few hours for the gameplay to “click” but once I got started I was hooked man. Definitely not a traditional rpg but there’s something special here - excited to play the rest of the series
I think I agree because now that I’ve started playing it’s kinda lit 😭
You should react to the protagonist awakening in each game, it's actually incredible how good it gets
Only reason I won’t is because I’m planning something else stay tuned
so thing about persona they will release a normal version of each game than afterwards release a definitive edition example p4 came out then p4 golden was the definitive edition. also p3 to p5 each got a dancing game which is just a rhythm game and I think they made the dancing games because the persona games have good music
I don’t understand why you’d buy a new entry if you know a definitive edition drops a year later though 😂 to be fair if I’m a fan of something and a new game drops I guess I wouldn’t be able to help myself either
@@zero38xt because the definitive edition costs a bit more like I saw a og version of p5 go for 15$ on ebay but p5 royal is around 60$
Persona is mainly a JRPG series where you're a high school student that gets involved in supernatural happenings mainly revolving around human psychology and that kind of stuff, usually having to go into another world made out of the collective unconcious, the main characters fight the enemy "Shadows" with their inner selves made manifest in that world, their "Personas", made stronger by their bonds with their friends and each other. It is kind of a monster collector where you can recruit or create other Personas for your party or protagonist to give them different moves and resistances.
While being a student that goes to school is the characters' background in 1 and 2, it was until 3 where it became a central part of gameplay where you have to balance out going to school and supernatural dungeon crawling, where you also get items and improve your main character in the real world in preparation for the cognitive world. Streghtening your relationships with friends too in turn powers up the Personas you create further, and if it's a Party Member they could also get new moves or abilities.
Each numbered game is its own story that don't really require the previous game to be played but do cannonically take place after each previous one, giving room to references and continuity connections. Tho spinnoffs tend to actually follow up on the game they're based on or directly conect the games with each other, and then there's also P2 Eternal Punishment, which is a direct sequel to P2 Innocent Sin, since it's the same story it's still P2 while 1 and 3 are not.
Actually P4 Arena and P5 Strikers are direct sequels to P4 and P5 respectively just with a different gameplay style each instead of staying a Turn Based RPG.
Atlus is also known to rerelease enchanced versions of games after some time and Persona did this a lot.
And now, in extremely oversimplified summaries, the games go a bit like this:
-In P1 you and your friends play the "persona game" which is rumored to give you a mysterious power but shortly after strange happenings start occurring in town, including you actually getting the Power of Persona and the ill friend you just visited being mysteriously fully recovered.
-In P2 Innocent Sin every rumor now starts to become reality, let's just say this eventually and infamously goes places and leave it at that. This time the "Joker game" is said to summon an entity known as The Joker, who will grant your wishes, but in reality he kind of literally takes away your will to live and also erases you from everyone else's lives, he seems to have a personal grudge with the protagonist but you don't know why, he also goes around spreading more rumors that will become reality to spread more chaos. So the party decides to investigate Joker.
-P2 EP preety much requires you to beat IS as the events of the game are kindof the consequences of the previous game's ending, which would of course mean humongous spoilers.
-In P3, every time it turns midnight, everything stops for an extra hour, the hidden "Dark Hour", Shadows appear and the school you just transfered to also turns into a huge tower known as Tartarus. Those who remain concious during the Dark Hour are either at risk of falling victim to the Shadows or have the potential to become Persona Users, but unlike other Persona Users, most of this game's main party can't normally summon their Persona without shooting the Evoker, a gun shaped device, to their head. Every full moon an exceptinally powerful Shadow appears.
This game had an enchanced version (P3 FES) and a PSP version (P3 Portable) and now also has a remake (P3 Reload)
-P3 FES had an epilogue episode(which will also be DLC for Reload) but it very heavily revolves around the game's ending so yeah, don't play that first.
-In P4 you move with your uncle for a year and hear rumors of a "Midnight Channel" which you discover shows people who eventually die. Turns out there's a world inside the TV, which form is dependant on the person who entered it and is inhabited by Shadows. Someone is throwing people in there to die when the Shadows go berserk on a foggy day. Your job is to rescue the people thrown in the TV and find the culprit.
It had an enchanced rerelease on PS Vita (Persona 4 Golden)
-PQ is a 3DS Spinoff that crosses over Persona 3 and 4, its gameplay takes after Eithrian Oddisey I think it's called? (Idk how to spell it or if it's even the right game, someone correct me plz) it's technically cannon but the reason I'm saying "technically" is sort of a spoiler
-PQ2 is similar now also adding Persona 5
-P4 Arena is a direct sequel to P4 in the form of a Fighting Game spinoff, which also follows up on P3 by having its cast meet up with the P4 one.
It eventually had an enchanced version in Arena Ultimax.
-In P5 you're framed for a crime and put on probation, you discover a strange app on your phone that lets you enter the mind of distorted people, which take the form of "Palaces" according to how they see the world, you and your friends become "Phantom Thieves" that infiltrate these Palaces to steal their "Treasure", the distorted desires that make them the way they are, enacting a Change of Heart and completely stopping their current dangerous behavior.
(Also the main character uses the codename Joker but has no relation to P2's Joker)
It recieved an encganced version in the form of P5 Royal
-P5 Strikers is a direct sequel to P5 in the style of a "Warriors" game, tho it's also kindof like an Action RPG.
-P5 Tactica is a Tactical RPG that takes place between P5 and Strikers
Then they also made "Dancing" Rythm Game spinoffs for games 3 to 5 because why not I guess?
The dancing games definitely seem like a weird left turn, but the series is known for incredible music so its not that much of a leap for them to capitalize on that.
That makes it make more sense lol. Lots of people misinterpreted me I just found it funny how they went into a dancing game after hearing it’s an rpg series then a fighting game 😭
I'm weirded out that the English translation for the openings for Revelations and Innocent Sin aren't used in this new compilation. Do they give the translation in the CC?
Nope
Not all intros need to be hyper anime intros. Those first two were good they were quiet and contemplative on purpose. They were trying with those intros. Just because there weren’t characters showing off random powers doesn’t mean they weren’t good intros.
You’re right but the anime intros are more fun and easier to appreciate due to their flashy nature especially for someone like me who gravitates to cool looking stuff. Definitely don’t mean to say those first 2 were bad just didn’t intrigue me as much
In terms of gameplay, the mainline games are mostly turn-based RPGs, and P3-5 added in a time management/life sim element. Persona 1 and both Persona 2's (Innocent Sin and its sequel, Eternal Punishment) are more dungeon-crawling focused games.
Persona 3 originally came out on the PS2, and had a "complete edition" called Fes (mostly added stuff like The Answer and Aigis' social link). Then P3 Portable was a port to the Playstation Portable that added a female MC (whose life-sim elements are slightly different). The recent Reload is mostly a remake of Fes (they're still working on the Answer, apparently, and it's DLC out later this year)
Persona 4 had the two Arena games (Ultimax crosses over with P3), which as you guessed, are fighting games by Arcsys. Ultimax is actually pretty good, or so I've heard from friends of mine who enjoy fighting games. Then there was Golden, its enhanced rerelease (added some extra chunks of content, new life sim aspects, a new dungeon, some new mechanics, extra story stuff interwoven throughout the narrative). Dancing was them just... making a rhythm game. It's pretty good for a rhythm game. Eventually they did the rhythm games for 3 and 5 which are not as good.
Persona 5 (and its enhanced re-release, Royal, which adds, once again, a few new characters, extra story beats, new mechanics, rebalances some bosses, etc.) is the most recent mainline game, and it came out 8 years ago. While dancing wasn't that great, they did release Strikers, which is a Warriors-style action RPG that is fun as hell. Probably the best spinoff the series has managed. Tactica came out recently and is a tactical RPG (grid-based; very similar to Xcom in a lot of ways, if you've played that).
The two Persona Q games are dungeon-crawlers. If you've seen Etrian Odyssey (also made by Atlus) it's basically those with a Persona skin. They're... fine. If you like dungeon crawling RPGs, they're good enough.
Persona is a spinoff so popular it has a ton of spinoffs
To explain the guns:
Each Persona game has the characters use different methods to summon their Personas. A Persona is born when one accepts their "Shadow", or the part of themselves they don't want to face. In Persona 3, a Persona can only be summoned by one steeling themselves and facing the inevitability of death. To do this on command, they use Evokers. An Evoker looks like a gun, and they shoot themselves with it to simulate suicide, forcing them to confront the idea of themselves dying.
The game you said is positive is a spin off game where the cast of Persona 3 and Persona get caught in an alternate dimension where they meet a girl named Rei and a boy named Zen who live in that world. The game is about finding a way back and unraveling why the alternate dimension exists.
Persona 4. The happiest game about murder.
in persona 3 the "guns" are actually gun-shaped devices that overload the fear center of the brain(I'm fairly certain that would kill a normal person) forcing the persona(basically a stand) to come out the reason it's gun-shaped is because it fits with the games theme of accepting fate and not being afraid to face it(it's basically "oh you're not afraid of death? PROVE IT")
For your info, the arena, dancing, q, tactica, strikers are all spin offs but when you see persona 3 few, portable, persona 4 golden, persona 5 royal, those are like defenitive editions sorta.
Also what's wrong with dancing? We having fun
Bros ops are people dancing 😂😂
It's so difficult to understand the intros without knowledge of what the games are about. So its understandablethat you would have more questions than answers. I'm sure it's been explained by now. But each game has its own theme and quirks. For example the guns in 3 were called Evokers. They were thr "tools" that were used by the characters to "evoke" their persona's. Which are their fighting powers. Or "inner personalities" As someone stated. 3s theme was about mortality and the concepts and presence of life and death. Persona 4s theme was Perception. Hence the TVs and the "tool" of the glasses were used to gain clairity after each person saw their inner selves or personalities. I never got into 5 but the theme from what I understood was about Greed. Where each individual created an inner space based on special clues or hint words that was a reflection of their personalities and the objects of their desires. and the tools in relation were the costumes and code names the characters used, and so on. I may be off base with 5 but like I said I never took time to get into that one.
Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 Golden and Persona 5 Royal are rereleases of the original games with more content, Persona 3 Portable is another release of Persona 3, but without the FES content, with some mechanic differences, and with the option to choose female main character, that changes the story slightly. Persona 3 Reload is a full remake of Persona 3, and the latest DLC that was announce is for new content from FES. The rest of the games that have extra to the title (like Persona 4 Arena of Persona 5 Strikers) are spin-offs/sequels with different game mechanics.
The spin-off are:
Persona 4 Arena - fighting game with P4 gang and 3 P3 characters.
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax - sequel to P4 Arena, this time with all the P3 characters accept the main character.
Persona Q - crossover between P3 and P4
Persona Q2 - crossover between P3 P4 and P5
Dancing games - exactly what it sounds like.
Persona 5 Strikers - a hack and slash warrior like game, set around 6 months after P5.
Persona 5 Tactica - Tactics game.
All the P5 spinoffs are not including characters that were added in The Royal, accept for Tactica, that have them as DLC. All the P4 spinoffs that came after the golden do include them.
Long story short: While Persona 1 and 2 (which was split into 2 games) are tied to each other, the other 3 (which are more mainstream) are all separate entities. It is indeed a JRPG alongside a High school dating sim essentially. There are also some fighting games, dancing games and a few fanservice-type games in the Persona Q series.
In all games, the characters have a contract with a certain "demon" or often historical or mythological figure that aids them in their fighting against ... well a lot. The main thing that ties them together is these demons (or Persona's, hence the name) and the character Igor, the man with the long nose.
Persona started out as a subseries to the Megami Tensei series (more often referred to by Shin Megami Tensei, don't know if you've ever played that?) but has since gotten so big that the mainline series has taken a back seat.
It is a REALLY fun series, however 1 and 2 didn't age particularly well and haven't seen a release on any console since around 2009 or so on the PSP? You can play them on the VITA if you want. Overall 5 is the easiest to get into due to the most QoL updates over the others, although that might have changed with 3 (the one where they all shoot themselves in the head so much) recently seeing a rerelease. I haven't played that one yet so I can't offer too much insight on that.
Before I forget, the Third entry is the only one where they shoot themselves in the head, so if that's a dealbreaker for you then there's still the others to try.
As for the Dancing games (I posted this comment before watching, my bad), they're rhythm games. You have 6 buttons you have to press in time with them passing over the notes. Meanwhile the characters dance in the background. There's more VN stuff to do so it expands on the characters a bit more. As to why they did it, Persona's Soundtracks have long garnered praise so this was a way to show it off.
On the Strikers game, that one's a Musou (or beat-em-up? I'm not familiar with Musou's so I may be wrong on that) After 4's success they really started making spin-off after spin-off after spin-off. At least it keeps us busy?
If this doesn’t pique your interest to play one of the games I don’t know what will. Rewatching the opening after beating the games just hits different especially with Persona 3 Reload.
I won’t make any promises so I’ll just say stay tuned because I am very interested lol
as an avid player of the persona series i think i can answer some of the questions you may have, assuming you didn't look it all up or someone beat me to it. apologies for these not being in any particular order
games like persona 3 FES/Portable/reload, persona 4 golden, and persona 5 royal are remakes/updates on their original games
persona 4 arena(P4A), persona 4 arena ultimax and persona 4 dancing all night are not just spin offs but actual sequels to the series as they actually do add something within their stories. even persona Q has been called out as part of the official timeline
though Pq is officially cannon PQ2 is not as it features a non-cannon player character, the female protagonist from persona 3 portable
the shooting yourself thing was only in persona 3 as the way they summoned their personas. persona 4 had cards that served the same purpose, and persona 5 has masks for it
in P4AU they used teddy's japanese name instead of his english name
the dancing games(p3 dancing moonlight/p4 dancing all night/ p5 dancing starlight) are literally rhythm games
like with the dancing games, the arena games also change genre but instead go from JRPG to arcade fighter
hopefully i covered everything you may have questions about. i purposely left out any answers that may spoil the story
“This one’s positive” you were askin that one
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Fun fact: in the first persona dancing game, the game ends with all of the characters having a dance battle against god and winning.
Sounds about right
Haven’t seen any one say this yet, so basically all of the Arena, dancing, and Q games are spinoffs. And just like how persona 3 got many remakes, persona 4 golden and persona 5 Royale are remakes of said games with more content ⭐️
So persona 3, 4, and 5 are like the core titles but atlas likes to remake them or add new features into it so Fes and Reload are remakes of 3. Golden is a remake of 4 and Royal is a remake of 5.
The Q games were released on 3DS and were a dungeon crawler sort of thing.
The 3 games with Dancing in the title are Rhythm games and are honestly my favorites but I’m kinda a huge rhythm game nerd.
The arena games are indeed fighting games
I really like the pre 3 openings (especially Innocent sin) but I can understand why you don’t, not being able to read them and all 😂
Yeah that’s not the openings fault so I won’t hold that against it lol
I was surprised at how confused/bothered he was by them dancing in the openings
Here's is an explanation of all the game's versions:
Persona 1 Revelations was on Turbo Graphics, (very old) then it got a PlayStation remake THEN it got a PlayStation Portable remake.
Persona 2 Innocent Sin is Persona 2 and Eternal Punishment is a sequel. (I haven't even come close finishing either of these).
Persona 3 FES is just a better version Persona 3, that also adds a new epilogue and more content. Persona 3 Portable is the version for the PlayStation Portable that also JUST HAPPENED TO BE PORTED TO STEAM!!! Persona 3 Reload is literally just a remake (better than Portable). Persona 3 Dancing is just a dancing game.
Persona 4 Golden basically adds another ending, gives extra content, AND completely remasters the entire game! (while also making the lighting worse). Persona 4 Arena is... well a pixelated fighting game. P4A Ultimax adds more content AND is also a sequel. Persona 4 Dancing All Night is another dancing game EXCEPT it has a CANNON story with animated cut scenes.
Persona 5 Royal adds a TON of new content while (IDK how) making the game LONGER. Persona 5 Strikers is a sequel (that plays differently from a regular Persona game), Persona 5 Tactica is an example of ATLUS milking Persona.
Don't worry about Persona Q, He's a spin off.
If you consider playing the best 2 to choose from is either Persona 3 Reload or Persona 5 Royal
Pwrsona 1,2IS,2EP intros: they kind amake more sense once you play the game (from whay ive been told)
Persona 3,FES,Portable,Reload: The shooting themselves is symbolic of them letting go of what holds them back mentally, its how they summon their personas. Also the reason the opening is mirrored in portable is to represent portable's main new addition: Kotone Shiomi, the new female protagonist option
Persona 4,Golden: That weird blob thing is Teddie. Hes a weirdo, dont mind him
Also stuff like P3FES, P3Portable, and P4Golden arent sequels but rather expanded versions with additional story, extra characters, new personas to use, the works. Think Sonic Adventure to Sonic Adventure DX
Original Versions: Persona, Persona 2 Innocent Sin, Persona 2 Eternal Punishment, Persona 3, Persona 4, Persona 5
Original+ Versions (Basically updated from full base game with additional content): Persona 3 FES, Persona 4 Golden, Persona 5 Royal
Portable Versions (For the PSP): Persona, Persona 2 Innocent Sin, Persona 2 Eternal Punishment, Persona 3 Portable
Fighting Game Spin off Versions: Persona 4 Arena, Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
Dancing Game Spin off (More Rhythm game than dancing game) Versions: Persona 3 Dancing Moonlight, Persona 4 Dancing All Night, Persona 5 Dancing Starlight
Etrian Odyssey Spin off (Dungeon crawling type game) Version: Persona Q(Persona 3 + Persona 4 Characters), Persona Q2 (Persona 3 + 4 + 5 characters)
Dynasty Warriors Spin off Version: Persona 5 Strikers
Tactics Spin off Version: Persona 5 Tactica
Full Remake Version: Persona 3 Reload
Playing them will get you even more flabbergasted than what you were when you first saw teddie
when will you make new dokkan ost video?
The best way I can explain a persona to a non persona player just think of a persona as a stand they are basically both manifestations of your soul or your inner self
Never watched jojos but enough people have explained what those are to me so I can understand it lol
Persona 3 is about death
Persona 4 is about facing yourself
Persona 5 is about rebellion
Oh and you should 100% play them my personal favorite being 4 I’ll say play them by whatever you think theme is more interesting first
Persona 1 is about mental health (if I recall correctly, that is)
Persona 2 is about rumors
I find it very cool that each game tackles a specific theme that’s dope
So, as to the game's genres.... All the numbered titles are JRPGs with turn-based combat (3-5 adding life sim elements), the Q games are first-person dungeon crawlers and the Arena games are, indeed, fighting games made by Arc System Works (Guilty Gear, Dragon Ball FighterZ, BlazBlue, among others). Tactica is a strategy RPG that's a bit like Fire Emblem or X-com or similar things. The Dancing _______ are rhythm games. Why? 'Cause the series has good music and a spin-off can make money.
Basically, they all have the power to summon a "persona" which is like a manifestation of their inner selves that comes out in the form of a god, demon, etc. and they use it to fight the enemies of the game, the shadows. The "local dealer" as you call him appears in a lot of the games and gives the player the ability to summon multiple personas (usually you only get the one) in 3 and 5, not sure about the other games as I haven't played. In persona 3, you fight during the dark hour, a hidden hour between 12 and 1 where everyone turns into a coffin and shadows roam. The guns are not real guns; they are called evokers and are used to shock the user enough to summon their persona easily as they need to be focused to be able to do it. As far as I know they only appear in 3. In persona 5, the protagonist and his friends travel to the shadow world through a mysterious app on their phone and they go into corrupt people's palaces (which are manifestations of their mind) and steal their treasure which represents the thing they desire most. Once it's gone, the person goes into a blank state and either declines until they commit suicide or they end up changing their ways. Also, they have masks that they RIP off of their faces instead of using the guns in persona 3. Both are amazing games in my opinion and if JRPGs are your thing you should definitely try them. The soundtracks in game are as good as the openings.
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I appreciate how passionate and informative a lot of you are lol thanks! Well I’ve installed the newest one and will be streaming it so peep the community tab for more info, I intend to give it a fair shot!
I can’t recommend persona enough, honestly. It’s such an amazing game series, and if you plan to play them all, I’d suggest starting with Persona 4 Golden. Also it’s a really good idea to stay as far away from spoilers as you can, because there are some twists that people love to talk about. Oh, also they’re discounted until the 6’th, so if you’re planning on it, you should totally play em! There’s no wrong way to go about it, but like… they’re some good ass games.
I’ve actually started persona 3 reload and it’s actually a playthrough on my channel right now! From what people tell me 4 seems like it’ll be my vibe the most so let’s see how far this goes I guess
@@zero38xt Yo?????? I should binge your playthrough right now! Also, have fun with P3! I’m playing through it myself atm, but I seem to be ahead. So I’ll be watching and keeping up with it!!! Have fun, it’s going to be a wild ride!
The only song i knew was maze of life, and that is because of a TH-cam series known as gogan verse
Just stumbled on this. As spoiler free as I can be, here's the best way I can describe the games:
Persona 3: tackling the serious topic of life and death, they do so incredibly well. Throw in some monsters, super powers, the world being in a weird state with them trying to understand what's going on. It's a great game but may be a slow burn too. I HIGHLY recommend you avoid all spoilers. (That applies to each game, but especially 3)
Persona 4: more of a fun and laid back theme, they're out to solve a mystery! Like Persona 3 though, they all have their personas (their powers, related to their inner selves) with monsters to fight.
Persona 5: They're thieves out to steal your heart! No jobs too much for the Phantom Thieves! Of course powers and fun applies.
Would recommend them all, Persona 3 Reload is a great place to start. Normals too easy though, do merciless for a more natural Persona gameplay experience. After that, take your pick of 4 or 5. They all have distinctive music too. I think 4 would be a good choice after 3, because its so chill and has uplifting music.
lmao, when he said in Persona 3 "now they're actually trying" LMAO, you have to understand that Persona is a spin-off series. The main series is called Shin Megami Tensei, where they fight using demons, rather than calling them personas.
Persona 1 and 2 are wild, you fight Hitler straight up in one of them, but starting at Persona 3 I believe someone in charge left or something along those lines? Thus the direction changed, and obviously music wise in modern day, got better, but it IS also wild to say they weren't trying in Persona 1 and 2 when they're also relatively just older (1996 and 1999 respectively, and then Persona 3 didn't come out for another 7 years in 2006). It just had a totally different vibe and goal compared to when it swapped to 3, 4 and 5.
It doesn't really matter which game you start with, personally I started with 5, then went backwards. They're all interesting in their own ways, but I do agree that Persona 5 Royal is more than likely a good place to start and really get into it. Every game has their own situation and premise, but they're all connected as well, just years apart even in-universe. Which is why for the Persona 4 fighting games you saw Persona 3 characters, except they looked clearly older than before.
It's up to you, though, you can start with Persona 3: Reload, Persona 4 Golden or Persona 5 Royal. Essentially the definitive editions of their repsective stories.