I was in the audience for this episode. My first 8 years of being a fan there weren't any new episodes of Red Dwarf so actually attending a filming was something I never thought would happen.
I think this is my favourite of the new Red Dwarf episodes. It's a really clever premise, plus it shows that Lister isn't dumb, just really lazy, ignorant and unmotivated. He's pretty smart when forced into a situation that needs him to think his way out.
Very topical as well. And true, because stuff like ChatGPT is just a souped-up version of predictive text. It guesses what the next word would be, based on what it has already seen in the training data.
Just going to add to this, previous series audience places were booked through "lost in tv" so I'd assume it'll be the same this time if you want to monitor something. The episode I was there for is coming up, I think episode 5
Yep, the 'Dave' era was good time. Series X in particular always feels to me like a 'greatest hits' of all the previous seasons, you had the small-scale episodes where everything happens on the ship like the early series, as well as the high concept sci-fi stuff and the 'baddie of the week' type episodes. Really good stuff. I was also lucky enough to be in the audience for a later episode (from Series XI), so I'll shout up when that comes around and share some anecdotes from the recording. PS I saw Kat put the gnome in their hair and the little glance to camera when Paula didn't say anything... very much enjoyed them keeping it there for the whole episode, the little scamp
I re-watched this several times before I worked out how the conversation between Dad Lister and Junior worked with Dad Lister seemingly knowing what Junior was going to say. When Lister firsts meets Pree he says 'I have a job for you'. Offscreen presumably Dad Lister got Pree to predict Juniors' response to seeing the video and hence was able to fully predict everything including the don't swear. The scene is hilarious so I never really thought how is this actually working the first few times; but its great that Naylor was able to write the scene in a way that made sense without needing to explain it, even though it was so funny that it didn't actually need a RL explanation
Oh man ! Didn’t I tell ya ? ! “Fathers and Suns” was classic Red Dwarf ! Craig Charles drunk acting is worth of an award ! LOL And the jokes… every one landed so perfectly, particularly the running ones of Lister forwarding ahead in his Dad’s video and Rimmer’s sexist selections for Pree… I mean you know how a Red Dwarf running gag gets predictable, trite and tedious JUST before it culminates ? Not so with these ones ! Oh and the dynamic between Lister and his Dad is so organic and relatable… and the ingenious resolution to the Pree b-story… just nothing misses in this episode IMHO… it’s why I insist that some Series X episodes are on par as any in Series I to V… easily. The magic is BACK BABY !
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Fun fact: Craig Charles had the flu while filming Lister's video rant to himself, so the ill look was real.
A subtle joke a lot of people missed (me included!) first time around, Rimmer skipped over the frame size of the new computer so wasn’t aware he was picking one that would crop out the breasts he was so hyper-focused on.
This is by far one of the best episodes for plot and characterisation. The 'tough love' video conversation is sheer brilliance. FYI, when they were shooting the Drunk Daddy Lister bits, Craig Charles was seriously ill (flu, I think). I don't imagine much acting was needed for the bits where he fell of his chair...
I agree about Kerry - I know the idea was to show how shallow the guys are, and to prove that you don't always need what you want, but it fell flat for me.
The term "Chinese Whispers" was a the standard name people in the UK of my age (who were teenagers when RD first came out) used for the game you know as "Telephone". I don't think for most of us it was explicitly racist but it does fit in that category of "things we thought were ok in the 80s but were not".
If you were wondering about why the Medibot avatar gave you both the creeps, the actor playing the character is the same one who played the creepy orphanage director in the Doctor Who episode "Day of the Moon" that you rewatched (I assume) recently. Also, this episode isn't one of my all-time favourites or anything, but I will give it credit for having one of the greatest Rimmer lines of all time (as per usual, it's Chris Barrie's delivery that really nails the moment): "Are you telling me that you knew I would cock it up, so you cocked it up for me?!"
Remember watching this first time round. Few days after watching this I needed a repeat prescription. Rang doctors to hear, the receptionist says, Pree here, how can I help. I paused, asked her name again, and then told her about Pree in Red Dwarf. She said she was going to check it out. Hope she became a fan. Great video ladies.
This episode was one of the two I was lucky enough to go see recorded. (I saw the first half of the 2020 movie get recorded, too) The scene where Lister has the conversation with himself cracks me up so much, no matter how many times I watch it. It's such a great episode.
I went to a recording of an episode from series 11 and part of the Promised Land. Because I use crutches I was driven across Pinewood studios in one of those golf carts and got front row centre right next to where the cast sat on the steps waiting. Probably the coolest thing to ever happen to me.
This series so far is like S3-S5. It's almost as if Rob Grant sneakily helped with the writing. That fun, antagonistic banter is back, along with their youthful spontaneity, the silliness, the fresh jokes and perfect comedic timing, not to mention their original personalities and the laughter track. It's a very different vibe to Series 6, 7, 8 and 9, which felt post-golden age.
So glad to see enjoying Red Dwarf. As you obviously also like Dr Who, I wondered if I could suggest Blakes 7 as a 4 series UK sci-fi tv show from late 70's early 80's. I think you'd love it, starts a bit slow, but after a few episodes you'll want to watch them all.
I'm older than all of them - a tribute to the NHS . It's great to see them doing what they do best , A clever episode with lots of laughs .The Gnome was in focus in Kats hair and a fun reaction gals .
I think this is my favourite series ten episode, loved the whole Chinese whispers gag and Lister's conversation with his "dad" was hilarious, at one point I almost forgot that they were both the same person!😄😄😄
I've not done many things that evoke Sci-Fi fan envy, but watching Alien projected onto the main dish at Jodrel Bank observatory was a truly unique experience.
Great reactions gals glad ur loving red dwarf series 10 ur gunna love the next episode take care both of you stay safe keep getting dwarfed Anthony gibbs from South west London England ❤
Thanks to the success of things like the returning Red Dwarf, Dave gave us one of the best shows since Red Dwarf originally aired, called Taskmaster. So Dave did 2 wonderful things for me~
C.P. Grpgan, the original Chrissy Kochansoi was the lead singer for the Scottish band Altered Images. She was the inspiration for the song "True" by Spandau Ballet (She was dating Gary Kemp).
I clocked the gnome horn at about, oh... 1:03 or thereabouts, as Kat put it in their hair. I was a little distracted for the next few minutes wondering if Paula would notice, or have it pointed out to them. This is probably my favourite episode of Series X, it's just really well written and superbly executed. Oh, and Kochanski was played by Chloe Annett in Series VII and VIII (and by Clare Grogan in almost every earlier appearance, barring one scene in Stasis Leak where she was doubled by Dona DiStefano).
By the way, the TV channel Dave is run by UKTV, which is a subsidiary of BBC Studios, which is a commercial subsidiary of the BBC. Dave and the other UKTV channels have commercial breaks, unlike the 'proper' BBC channels.
Series 1 was shot in late '87 (after a false start earlier in the year was curtailed by an electricians' strike; they were lucky to get it remounted) and broadcast from February '88; Craig Charles was 23, Chris and Danny were 27, and Norman Lovett was only 41, though I always think of him as being older.
If you think about it. The way Lister could talk to himself over the video tape is because Pre was predicting his reactions to his statements. Lister could then counter react. You could also argue that Pre didn't go bonkers. This was all her plan to motivate Lister to fix his tooth and to do something with his life, even if it meant uninstalling herself. She manipulated everything and accomplished the job Lister gave her. And because of the hooch, he doesn't remember anything.
Funny thing. I saw when you put the Gnome in your hair! It looked so natural and cute (unicorn style), that I thought I missed it being in your hair at the beginning of the video. So I thought to myself, that I had missed you taking the Gnome out of your hair, to show the camera. And the fact that you put it in your hair, was just you putting it back! It matched perfectly. So it did not distract me at all!
Great Red Dwarf episode, I remember seeing this one when it came out, had almost completely forgotten it. also, I just have to say, I agree....I think Kat should be a Fey creature...or is one in disguise. :)
Craig Charles was sick with the flu during the filming of this episode, but went on to film the scene with his 'dad' anyway and did a great job, whilst drinking constant orange juice during it. When Lister takes the space suit out of the locker a carnie uniform from season 8 can briefly be seen
Fun fact (and of course, by 'fun', I do mean 'bog standard, middle of the road' fact): 'Dave' rebranded last month to become 'U&Dave' as did all it's companion channels: 'Drama' became 'U&Drama', 'Yesterday' became 'U&Yesterday' and 'Alibi' became 'U&... well, you get the general idea with that. I noticed Kat's little Gnome hat from the beginning after watching the whole video through once and then watching the beginning of the video again. Wibbly Wobbly Cheaty Wheaty ...
@@Si_of_Earth Or what? Does it bother you? When I was a kid there was still a lot of racism towards East Asian people. Heck, they were still performing that panto version of Aladdin set in 'China' with white actors making their eyes look slanted, having fake 'fu manchu' moustache and doing the "ah so" accent but you want to insist that 'Chinese Whispers' had absolutely no racist connotations whatsoever?
You could try to catch some Space Cadets, a Sci-Fi panel game helmed by Greg Proops with Craig Charles and Bill Bailey as the team Captains. It must have been filmed during a Sci-Fi convention as they even got Shatner on one!
The sets were completely built from scratch for series X. But designed to be modular, as they explain in the behind the scenes the budget was really tight for this series so the later episodes robbed everything they could from the earlier ones.
It’s called Chinese whispers in Australia & NZ too. From Wikipedia: “Another theory posits that the game's name stems from the supposed confused messages created when a message was passed verbally from tower to tower along the Great Wall of China.”
that explanation sounds a bit like "how can we make this not be racist?" 18th (ish) Century England, and its colonies, were definitely racist, we've improved a little bit since then.
Ive had 2 small (about less than half a millimeter across) fillings done... without anesthetic, about 25 years back... and yeah, if i ever need any more done im taking that needle, phobia be damned. Nothing like shocking nerve pain of that caliber to make you take extreme care of your teeth from then on out.
In terms of the production values, it may actually surprise you that this was filmed in three main sets the Drive room, Living quarters and a lone Corridor set that was redressed to look different. The Medical bay scenes were actually just filmed in the living quarters but with the Doctor's screen so large you cant see the set behind. Pree was just shot off to the side with a black curtain background. Its actually an amazingly clever piece of production; and was done very much on the cheap. The episode was filmed with just the principal cast and one guest star (plus a few voice over artists) and due to a lack of location shooting it was all shot in 3 hours in a single evening.
@@Xethian Sadly not been myself, but I've seen the series-X sets in various media. Left hand side was the episode specific set (like the Trojan flight deck), then the drive room, followed by the corridor and finally the living quarters. The Corridor set is T shaped and runs behind the drive room and living quarters. This gives the cast corners to walk round, and the appearance of depth. In F&S there is no episode specific set other than the medical bay, which I think was just placed in front of the living quarters.
Yep, oh and we had a extra right set now I think about it for Lister to "float" outside the dwarf on. I think it was separate from the bunk room but just next to it.
@@Xethian Which episode did you watch? Entangled? They had a Green Screen set up in front of the Bunk Room in S10. Not aware of anything further right than the bunk room, but its a set; it's designed to move quite easily.
I'll be honest, I noticed about a second AFTER Paula did. I love this episode, this and "Lemons" are my fav of S10. Chinese Whispers is definiitely based on a racist trope, but as a kids game I think has escaped most people's attention. I never thought about it before this episode aired, anyway.
Growing up in the 80s UK I can definitely remember playing Chinese Whispers in primary school, not sure when it changed for the better (because I've not played it since Primary School).
If you're interested in seeing Chloe Annatt in something else sci-fi, and if you can find it, I recommend Crime Traveller, which is - as the name suggests - a time-travel/police drama. There are only eight episodes, so it could fill a short gap in your schedule.
I remember living in Reading at the time that was being made and there were film cameras and crew all over the place near the town museum and the statue of Queen Victoria. I had to walk the long way round to Uni. Then when I later watched the first episode I realised what the fuss was about - they were setting up for a car chase sequence. I can remember watching the car on screen whizz round a corner and out of shot and thinking “hang on, that’s pedestrianised there. You’ll smash into the bollards”. But of course that didn’t happen because of the magic of TV! I found the show to be fairly ‘meh’. It wasn’t awful, but I could understand why it never got a second series.
@@djco5782 Yes, I know. However, the picture quality isn't brilliant and I'm not sure how the Gals feel about pirated material on their channel. I mean, if they're not bothered, then it's easy enough to find, I suppose.
One of my absolute favorite episodes of the entire show's run. And as much as folks like to say Red Dwarf has no continuity, this episodes is literally built on the continuity of Lister's existence established throughout the series. I also love how this episode demonstrates that Lister actually is intelligent if he would just try.
The thing I first thought when I heard the name "Chinese whispers" is that it's kind of a neat name for the game, since Mandarin is a tonal language, whispering it would possibly introduce ambiguity and mistakes. But I don't think that was the original meaning of the name, and it was probably created in a racist fashion, not a "wow, languages are neat" way, so I kinda bristle when I hear it.
Heh, I'm the same age as Craig Charles! It was definitely called Chinese Whispers when I was growing up, and yeah, that's totally for racist reasons. You can tell the vintage by the example I always remember: "We're going to a dance. Send three and fourpence". It's pre decimal currency, so no later than 1970, and the original line refers to the war: "We're going to advance, send reinforcements". I was impressed the gnome stayed in Kat's hair the whole reaction!
Did you know... graig started out in TV as a poet, (yes really). i think he was on Channel 4's The Tube in the early 1980's i remember seeing him as a young teenager
Gnome Dome. Pree Red Dwarf was current Red Dwarf and is now Past Red Dwarf... It's goid that they brought back the talking vending machines. It will become a running gag. I think the bridge section is supposed to give the ship the same feel as the Starbug cockpit and the bunkroom is just an updated version of all the bunkrooms from previous series.
I was in the audience for this episode. My first 8 years of being a fan there weren't any new episodes of Red Dwarf so actually attending a filming was something I never thought would happen.
Any good stories from the shoot?
I think this is my favourite of the new Red Dwarf episodes. It's a really clever premise, plus it shows that Lister isn't dumb, just really lazy, ignorant and unmotivated. He's pretty smart when forced into a situation that needs him to think his way out.
@@PassiveSmoking It’s one of my favourites but I think Lemons just pips it for me. Pun not intended.
@@TH-camMrP As a believer, “Lemons” leaves a sour taste in my mouth. (yes, groan… but I just had to. 😏)
I hate this episode
It's not very funny
"Dave Lister saves the day... being brave... in a hostile universe."
The solution being that the AI does everything wrong because that's how the crew would do it is pure genius and vintage Dwarf
Very topical as well. And true, because stuff like ChatGPT is just a souped-up version of predictive text. It guesses what the next word would be, based on what it has already seen in the training data.
New episodes being filmed in October. Get over here to be in the audience!!!
Do you know what studio they tend to film at?
@@percy06 They did X, XI and XII at Pinewood.
@@painreliever83 ah thank you!!
Just going to add to this, previous series audience places were booked through "lost in tv" so I'd assume it'll be the same this time if you want to monitor something.
The episode I was there for is coming up, I think episode 5
Yep, the 'Dave' era was good time. Series X in particular always feels to me like a 'greatest hits' of all the previous seasons, you had the small-scale episodes where everything happens on the ship like the early series, as well as the high concept sci-fi stuff and the 'baddie of the week' type episodes. Really good stuff. I was also lucky enough to be in the audience for a later episode (from Series XI), so I'll shout up when that comes around and share some anecdotes from the recording.
PS I saw Kat put the gnome in their hair and the little glance to camera when Paula didn't say anything... very much enjoyed them keeping it there for the whole episode, the little scamp
I love series XI!
There are 3000 decks and at least 569 bunks on RD, so it should be no surprise, over 30 years they would change sleeping quarters occasionally.
Maybe every few years Dave's slobbiness renders a living quarters uninhabitable, and they just move rather try to clean it up.
I have always loved how this played out for Lister
I re-watched this several times before I worked out how the conversation between Dad Lister and Junior worked with Dad Lister seemingly knowing what Junior was going to say. When Lister firsts meets Pree he says 'I have a job for you'. Offscreen presumably Dad Lister got Pree to predict Juniors' response to seeing the video and hence was able to fully predict everything including the don't swear. The scene is hilarious so I never really thought how is this actually working the first few times; but its great that Naylor was able to write the scene in a way that made sense without needing to explain it, even though it was so funny that it didn't actually need a RL explanation
It's not the series 8 set. That set has long gone now, (don't forget its been over 10 years!) but now you mention it, I can see the similarity.
Oh man ! Didn’t I tell ya ? ! “Fathers and Suns” was classic Red Dwarf ! Craig Charles drunk acting is worth of an award ! LOL And the jokes… every one landed so perfectly, particularly the running ones of Lister forwarding ahead in his Dad’s video and Rimmer’s sexist selections for Pree… I mean you know how a Red Dwarf running gag gets predictable, trite and tedious JUST before it culminates ? Not so with these ones ! Oh and the dynamic between Lister and his Dad is so organic and relatable… and the ingenious resolution to the Pree b-story… just nothing misses in this episode IMHO… it’s why I insist that some Series X episodes are on par as any in Series I to V… easily.
The magic is BACK BABY !
Fun fact: Craig Charles had the flu while filming Lister's video rant to himself, so the ill look was real.
A subtle joke a lot of people missed (me included!) first time around, Rimmer skipped over the frame size of the new computer so wasn’t aware he was picking one that would crop out the breasts he was so hyper-focused on.
This is by far one of the best episodes for plot and characterisation. The 'tough love' video conversation is sheer brilliance. FYI, when they were shooting the Drunk Daddy Lister bits, Craig Charles was seriously ill (flu, I think). I don't imagine much acting was needed for the bits where he fell of his chair...
Kerry Shale was a bad idea on Doug's part tho 🙃
Agreed, great episode though. Bloody great series, this is.
I agree about Kerry - I know the idea was to show how shallow the guys are, and to prove that you don't always need what you want, but it fell flat for me.
Yeah he was downing apple juice for so long and feeling even worse but it really worked for the scene
I need you all to know Kat is SO PROUD of their gnomefoolery
She should be proud. Great play! 😀
The term "Chinese Whispers" was a the standard name people in the UK of my age (who were teenagers when RD first came out) used for the game you know as "Telephone". I don't think for most of us it was explicitly racist but it does fit in that category of "things we thought were ok in the 80s but were not".
If you were wondering about why the Medibot avatar gave you both the creeps, the actor playing the character is the same one who played the creepy orphanage director in the Doctor Who episode "Day of the Moon" that you rewatched (I assume) recently.
Also, this episode isn't one of my all-time favourites or anything, but I will give it credit for having one of the greatest Rimmer lines of all time (as per usual, it's Chris Barrie's delivery that really nails the moment):
"Are you telling me that you knew I would cock it up, so you cocked it up for me?!"
Remember watching this first time round. Few days after watching this I needed a repeat prescription. Rang doctors to hear, the receptionist says, Pree here, how can I help. I paused, asked her name again, and then told her about Pree in Red Dwarf. She said she was going to check it out. Hope she became a fan. Great video ladies.
This episode was one of the two I was lucky enough to go see recorded. (I saw the first half of the 2020 movie get recorded, too)
The scene where Lister has the conversation with himself cracks me up so much, no matter how many times I watch it. It's such a great episode.
the gnome on head i never noticed it ha! great stuff
I went to a recording of an episode from series 11 and part of the Promised Land. Because I use crutches I was driven across Pinewood studios in one of those golf carts and got front row centre right next to where the cast sat on the steps waiting. Probably the coolest thing to ever happen to me.
That sounds amazing! Did you get to interact with the cast much?
These reactions have now synced up with my 10,000th Red Dwarf binge. This was the episode I last watched!
This series so far is like S3-S5. It's almost as if Rob Grant sneakily helped with the writing. That fun, antagonistic banter is back, along with their youthful spontaneity, the silliness, the fresh jokes and perfect comedic timing, not to mention their original personalities and the laughter track. It's a very different vibe to Series 6, 7, 8 and 9, which felt post-golden age.
6 is golden age to me (actually my favourite series!) but yes, the vibe feels earlier again
So glad to see enjoying Red Dwarf. As you obviously also like Dr Who, I wondered if I could suggest Blakes 7 as a 4 series UK sci-fi tv show from late 70's early 80's. I think you'd love it, starts a bit slow, but after a few episodes you'll want to watch them all.
Kat would rock the cyberpunk look. They've already got the makeup for it. They just need slicked back hair and a retro-future outfit.
I love the Medi-bot. Feels deliberate - like a naff 90s CD ROM UI.
I'm older than all of them - a tribute to the NHS . It's great to see them doing what they do best , A clever episode with lots of laughs .The Gnome was in focus in Kats hair and a fun reaction gals .
I think this is my favourite series ten episode, loved the whole Chinese whispers gag and Lister's conversation with his "dad" was hilarious, at one point I almost forgot that they were both the same person!😄😄😄
Did not notice! Just looks so natural on you
I've not done many things that evoke Sci-Fi fan envy, but watching Alien projected onto the main dish at Jodrel Bank observatory was a truly unique experience.
Great reactions gals glad ur loving red dwarf series 10 ur gunna love the next episode take care both of you stay safe keep getting dwarfed Anthony gibbs from South west London England ❤
Thanks to the success of things like the returning Red Dwarf, Dave gave us one of the best shows since Red Dwarf originally aired, called Taskmaster. So Dave did 2 wonderful things for me~
Yes, we all fancy the computer! ☺
Its amazing how quickly I got used to the idea of Kat having a Unicorn horn!
it feels totally on-brand for them
These first two episodes have been great, but the third episode...well, every show has to have a few lemons. 😊
Wasn't a certain scene banned in America?? Or had a trigger warning??
Really?..... Jesus!
C.P. Grpgan, the original Chrissy Kochansoi was the lead singer for the Scottish band Altered Images. She was the inspiration for the song "True" by Spandau Ballet (She was dating Gary Kemp).
I clocked the gnome horn at about, oh... 1:03 or thereabouts, as Kat put it in their hair. I was a little distracted for the next few minutes wondering if Paula would notice, or have it pointed out to them.
This is probably my favourite episode of Series X, it's just really well written and superbly executed.
Oh, and Kochanski was played by Chloe Annett in Series VII and VIII (and by Clare Grogan in almost every earlier appearance, barring one scene in Stasis Leak where she was doubled by Dona DiStefano).
The gnome is still a Blue Midget (like the shuttle), so it fits the Red Dwarf universe!
By the way, the TV channel Dave is run by UKTV, which is a subsidiary of BBC Studios, which is a commercial subsidiary of the BBC. Dave and the other UKTV channels have commercial breaks, unlike the 'proper' BBC channels.
Glad your sticking to red dwarf and I didn't even notice you put that in your hair lol
Series 1 was shot in late '87 (after a false start earlier in the year was curtailed by an electricians' strike; they were lucky to get it remounted) and broadcast from February '88; Craig Charles was 23, Chris and Danny were 27, and Norman Lovett was only 41, though I always think of him as being older.
another great reaction to series 10 been wafting all day for you to upload this one glad you enjoying 10 so far :) looking forward to the next one :)
I totally noticed the gnome hair, but was convinced Kat would forget it was there lol
28:18 Chloe Annette. She was in another series around the same time as red dwarf VII called crime traveler.
If you think about it. The way Lister could talk to himself over the video tape is because Pre was predicting his reactions to his statements. Lister could then counter react.
You could also argue that Pre didn't go bonkers. This was all her plan to motivate Lister to fix his tooth and to do something with his life, even if it meant uninstalling herself.
She manipulated everything and accomplished the job Lister gave her.
And because of the hooch, he doesn't remember anything.
In Australia we also call it Chinese Whispers 😊
You’re going to love the next episode - get your bags here
Funny thing. I saw when you put the Gnome in your hair!
It looked so natural and cute (unicorn style), that I thought I missed it being in your hair at the beginning of the video.
So I thought to myself, that I had missed you taking the Gnome out of your hair, to show the camera.
And the fact that you put it in your hair, was just you putting it back! It matched perfectly. So it did not distract me at all!
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I totally didn't notice the horn either, until you said "specifically my head" to Paula, so noticed when she did basically 😄
Great Red Dwarf episode, I remember seeing this one when it came out, had almost completely forgotten it. also, I just have to say, I agree....I think Kat should be a Fey creature...or is one in disguise. :)
Craig Charles was sick with the flu during the filming of this episode, but went on to film the scene with his 'dad' anyway and did a great job, whilst drinking constant orange juice during it. When Lister takes the space suit out of the locker a carnie uniform from season 8 can briefly be seen
(Reacting to gnome-icorn Kat) (Starts humming the song from "The Last Unicorn") Dammit, now THAT'S stuck in my head!
I'm in the US and when I was growing up we called it "whisper down the lane"
Fun fact (and of course, by 'fun', I do mean 'bog standard, middle of the road' fact):
'Dave' rebranded last month to become 'U&Dave' as did all it's companion channels: 'Drama' became 'U&Drama', 'Yesterday' became 'U&Yesterday' and 'Alibi' became 'U&... well, you get the general idea with that.
I noticed Kat's little Gnome hat from the beginning after watching the whole video through once and then watching the beginning of the video again.
Wibbly Wobbly Cheaty Wheaty ...
And yeah, was called 'Chinese Whispers' when I was a kid too but yeah 'Telephone' is a much less problematic name. :P
Hope the sticky out tongue means this is parody 😝
@@Si_of_Earth Or what? Does it bother you? When I was a kid there was still a lot of racism towards East Asian people. Heck, they were still performing that panto version of Aladdin set in 'China' with white actors making their eyes look slanted, having fake 'fu manchu' moustache and doing the "ah so" accent but you want to insist that 'Chinese Whispers' had absolutely no racist connotations whatsoever?
You could try to catch some Space Cadets, a Sci-Fi panel game helmed by Greg Proops with Craig Charles and Bill Bailey as the team Captains. It must have been filmed during a Sci-Fi convention as they even got Shatner on one!
I was here for the hair gnome, looked like a little unicorn.
Can confirm didn't notice, very stealthy!
there's some new episodes being filmed soon ready to be released next year, you never know you could go and watch it being filmed! ;)
Hit the production crew up for you two doing a TH-cam documentary on Red Dwarf. Show them selected clips from your reactions...
Fun, as always. Thanks.
Fun fact, I saw Craig Charles do a DJ funk set at a local music festival last year and yeah it was as boss as it sounds
Great episode but I remember being disappointed that he never mentions his OTHER children. The twins who went to live in a parallel universe.
Love the Dave years
The sets were completely built from scratch for series X. But designed to be modular, as they explain in the behind the scenes the budget was really tight for this series so the later episodes robbed everything they could from the earlier ones.
It’s called Chinese whispers in Australia & NZ too. From Wikipedia: “Another theory posits that the game's name stems from the supposed confused messages created when a message was passed verbally from tower to tower along the Great Wall of China.”
that explanation sounds a bit like "how can we make this not be racist?" 18th (ish) Century England, and its colonies, were definitely racist, we've improved a little bit since then.
@@UKJesterVids You’re just repeating orthodoxies. Quite dull really. Maybe get out more.
Ive had 2 small (about less than half a millimeter across) fillings done... without anesthetic, about 25 years back... and yeah, if i ever need any more done im taking that needle, phobia be damned.
Nothing like shocking nerve pain of that caliber to make you take extreme care of your teeth from then on out.
omg that gnome head piece so funny.
That is hilarious but I'll admit I didn't notice either. I probably looked away when you did it
Did you know you can see the TARDIS on the exterior of red dwarf in the landing bay between the blue midget and starbug. :D
Beautiful stealth horn, you mad goth bastard! 🖤
In terms of the production values, it may actually surprise you that this was filmed in three main sets the Drive room, Living quarters and a lone Corridor set that was redressed to look different. The Medical bay scenes were actually just filmed in the living quarters but with the Doctor's screen so large you cant see the set behind. Pree was just shot off to the side with a black curtain background.
Its actually an amazingly clever piece of production; and was done very much on the cheap. The episode was filmed with just the principal cast and one guest star (plus a few voice over artists) and due to a lack of location shooting it was all shot in 3 hours in a single evening.
When I was there, they'd built a episode specific set off on the left hand side, and did some of the corridor filming behind the set somewhere.
@@Xethian Sadly not been myself, but I've seen the series-X sets in various media. Left hand side was the episode specific set (like the Trojan flight deck), then the drive room, followed by the corridor and finally the living quarters.
The Corridor set is T shaped and runs behind the drive room and living quarters. This gives the cast corners to walk round, and the appearance of depth.
In F&S there is no episode specific set other than the medical bay, which I think was just placed in front of the living quarters.
Yep, oh and we had a extra right set now I think about it for Lister to "float" outside the dwarf on. I think it was separate from the bunk room but just next to it.
@@Xethian Which episode did you watch? Entangled?
They had a Green Screen set up in front of the Bunk Room in S10. Not aware of anything further right than the bunk room, but its a set; it's designed to move quite easily.
@@adamcashin4021 yes, Entangled. And some of my friends watched lemons, and others the beginning. Tickets were really messed up for this series.
There actually is a mockumentary set in an alternate universe where the South won, its called CSA and I think its been uploaded to TH-cam for a while.
You should get to a live taping of the 2025 episodes. I heard that shooting of the new ones start in October (soon).
I'll be honest, I noticed about a second AFTER Paula did.
I love this episode, this and "Lemons" are my fav of S10. Chinese Whispers is definiitely based on a racist trope, but as a kids game I think has escaped most people's attention. I never thought about it before this episode aired, anyway.
This season was released in 2012.
Growing up in the 80s UK I can definitely remember playing Chinese Whispers in primary school, not sure when it changed for the better (because I've not played it since Primary School).
What has it changed to, for the better? Is it not Chinese Whispers anymore?
In the USA they use Telephone or Broken Telephone, which is certainly better as it's not loaded with implied xenophobia.
I'm going to have to go back to see when Kat put that in her hair now
I think they are going to film some more red dwarf eps soon ....
i may be a patron but its always algo time 🖤🖤🖤💖💖💖
Because this is in a different studio and not the BBC's i highly doubt it's the same set.
If you're interested in seeing Chloe Annatt in something else sci-fi, and if you can find it, I recommend Crime Traveller, which is - as the name suggests - a time-travel/police drama. There are only eight episodes, so it could fill a short gap in your schedule.
It's on here.
I remember living in Reading at the time that was being made and there were film cameras and crew all over the place near the town museum and the statue of Queen Victoria. I had to walk the long way round to Uni. Then when I later watched the first episode I realised what the fuss was about - they were setting up for a car chase sequence. I can remember watching the car on screen whizz round a corner and out of shot and thinking “hang on, that’s pedestrianised there. You’ll smash into the bollards”. But of course that didn’t happen because of the magic of TV!
I found the show to be fairly ‘meh’. It wasn’t awful, but I could understand why it never got a second series.
@@djco5782 Yes, I know. However, the picture quality isn't brilliant and I'm not sure how the Gals feel about pirated material on their channel. I mean, if they're not bothered, then it's easy enough to find, I suppose.
I won a chance to be on red dwarf years ago but I didn't go on the show I've been regretting it ever since lol
Gnomes from the Dwarf!
When you watch the behind the scenes for this series, I think you will be very surprised about what sets actually existed (no spoilers from me though)
I doubt it is the same set given that it was 13 years between series 8 and series 10, and them being on different TV channels.
we called it ‘telephone’
One of my absolute favorite episodes of the entire show's run. And as much as folks like to say Red Dwarf has no continuity, this episodes is literally built on the continuity of Lister's existence established throughout the series.
I also love how this episode demonstrates that Lister actually is intelligent if he would just try.
The thing I first thought when I heard the name "Chinese whispers" is that it's kind of a neat name for the game, since Mandarin is a tonal language, whispering it would possibly introduce ambiguity and mistakes. But I don't think that was the original meaning of the name, and it was probably created in a racist fashion, not a "wow, languages are neat" way, so I kinda bristle when I hear it.
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I stopped watching Danny on Death in Paradise to come watch you watch him on Dwarf. Now going back to Death in Paradise. It's a great show.
Gals from the Dwarf 😂😂😂😂
OMG I didn't notice until you mentioned it Kat! Dear god I'm blind lol.
Heh, I'm the same age as Craig Charles! It was definitely called Chinese Whispers when I was growing up, and yeah, that's totally for racist reasons. You can tell the vintage by the example I always remember: "We're going to a dance. Send three and fourpence". It's pre decimal currency, so no later than 1970, and the original line refers to the war: "We're going to advance, send reinforcements". I was impressed the gnome stayed in Kat's hair the whole reaction!
Watching this on my way to the dentist's office now. 😅
Did you know... graig started out in TV as a poet, (yes really). i think he was on Channel 4's The Tube in the early 1980's
i remember seeing him as a young teenager
Stood in for Wogan too, I think.
The telephone game here is usually, unfortunately, called Chinese whispers. Which is why they were literally talking about Chinese people.
It’s good the show called it out - and good that even Rimmer spots that it’s not on.
Another quality tomcat and tomkittens video!
Gnome Dome. Pree Red Dwarf was current Red Dwarf and is now Past Red Dwarf... It's goid that they brought back the talking vending machines. It will become a running gag. I think the bridge section is supposed to give the ship the same feel as the Starbug cockpit and the bunkroom is just an updated version of all the bunkrooms from previous series.
14:13 you should do your makeup like her for the next episode!