5 Things We Were Surprised to Pay for Here In South Africa
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2024
- In this video, we'll share 5 things that we, as expats in Johannesburg, South Africa, were surprised to pay for. From unexpected hidden fees to cultural differences in payment methods, this informational video will give you a heads up on what expenses to expect when living or traveling in South Africa.
If you're planning a trip or a move to South Africa, don't miss out on this important information! We'll discuss everything from transportation costs to tipping culture, so you can be prepared and avoid any surprises. Watch now to be in the know before you go! #southafrica #johannesburg #expat #travel
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Grocery Bags - 2:09
Parking - 7:58
Tipping Culture - 12:23
Water - 20:43
Sauces - 26:01 - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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We used to get plastic bags for free then they started selling them,to save the environment,because if it's free,you throw it away but if you pay for it,you will wanna bring it bag for your next shopping.
Exactly. We use Woolies bags. Reusable in every store.
True that and it’s still a new thing even us we used to forget it lol
@EbagamAfrica exactly what when every single item is packaged in plastic in anyway?
Meanwhile every single item is packaged in plastic 😅
There is no tipping expected at Gas/Petrol Stations. Where you specifically request that the Attendant cleans your car windows then you MAY tip.
You may but still not required.
I've never tipped a petrol attendant. I always pay card and don't carry cash.
You don't have to tip petrol attendants, unless they did more extra like washing your windscreen etc.
They charge for the plastic bag here to deter the use of plastic. It’s an environmental tax of some kind
It's hard to believe it's not common in other countries too!
@@willactually7509unfortunately in our system the consumer is left having to pay for it instead of the corporates who can just stop producing reusable plastic bags and use recycled bags instead and have a recycling system that the state manages
No, it's just a scam because all the items you're buying are packaged in plastic 😊
@willactually7509 in Canada, they used to charge for plastic bags now they got rid of it completely, they have reusable bags now.
@Mbalings yes but a lot of those packaged products come from outside companies, as for the shop they try to keep it eco friendly, plus you can seperate your trash and give the plastics and papers to recycling companoes or the needy who use that as a source of living
Hi Guys, I was born in Joburg and since I was a Teenager we moved to Switzerland. I am now in my 40tees and I am thinking about moving back to S.A... My Family is from Joburg area, so I will probily move out there, aldo to be honest I would like Cape Town more. YOu Guys Video is very helpful in that thinking process!
Yes Capetown is the best, lived there for 15 years. Now we in Huston Texas and boy oh boy I miss Capetown
@@lydiachatambudzablessed I feel you there is no place in the world like S.A and specialy Cape Town!!
Honestly, Capetown/Western Cape is great to settle. However, Johannesburg isn't bad either. It has its challenges but for the most part it all depends on where you end up staying in Johannesburg. Durban Is also great. Property prices are cheaper and it's developing pretty fast .
Come back home Broer, our economy needs your skills 😂❤
@@annahshongwe thanks love warms my heart!🥰
Petrol attendants expecting a tip is new to me. Never seen it over there. I suspect some folk might pick up on the accent and ask for a tip. But, I've honestly never seen an attendant expecting a tip for that particular service.
They never ask but it is nice to give them something.
Most of the labour you mention is minimum wage/unskilled labour so it's seen as helping someone making a living wage or job creation
Looks like here in S.A. we create alot of jobs and giving back to people who struggle.like petrol attendants and car gaurds epecially for those who would struggle to get into corporate etc
That’s truly a Blessing 🫶🏽❣️
In most Malls even if it's not a parking garage u still pay. Most Malls upgraded the outside parkings and installed boom gates to deter car stealers.
At some malls, when you purchase goods and receive a receipt, the receipt will have a bar code that will allow you exit the parking using the receipt you received from that particular retailer. You can ask the cashier whether the receipt will allow you to exit the parking without paying, or sometimes the receipt is written that you can use it to exit the parking without paying.
The parking attendance situation is an awkward one, but ultimately you can use your discretion whether to tip them or not, you're not obliged.
Don't feel pressured for tipping it's not mandatory. Tip if you want not under obligation
Fun fact, even locals get irritated by car guards sometimes😂
Most of the time 😂😂
Sometimes? lol
You don't have to tip, but be nice. Car guards are a serious deterrent to criminals. Criminals don't like to be seen. Think a little bit deeper, and you'll appreciate them. Irritation is an unnecessary word
@tmash509 you are right. We have a love-hate relationship with car guards. I mean, when last you really enjoyed your R5 coin?
There’s tolls and there’s etolls 😅 Ignore the etolls one😂. But usually on long distance trips, you’re expected to pay the relevant/compulsory tolls .
I don’t think it’s an expectation to tip petrol attendants but if you want to then you can
They used to be methodical here too and seperated items that shouldn’t be bagged together, and even placed frozen items in transparent bags, but ever since they started making us buy bags it looks like they don’t even train their staff how to pack groceries. Today I had something packed on top of avocado!!
The paid parking started as a way to keep our cars safe, and also job creation for homeless people. Way too many of the cars were finding their way to neighbouring countries, and local scrapyards, especially in the 90s. It has really helped reduce car theft and helped the homeless before some “mafia” types took over.
We’re not very fond of the chance taking car guards either. They wont even help you if someone scratches your car or it gets stolen so what’s the point? They are almost 100% Congolese men trying to make some money so spare a dollar if you feel so inclined.
There are a lot of people just trying to make some money to buy bread for the day in South Africa, local and foreign. You donate if you feel like helping someone out, or not. You’ll be surprised some days seeing man literally cry tears of joy over a few rands… grab the blessings.
There are sauces on the table that are free. List of extra sauces on the menu aren't free.
You don't have to tip anybody if you don't want it is not a must❤❤❤
Shoprite employees are trained to pack according to use or storage. I don't know about other stores. Im the same with eggs but I've never experienced someone putting eggs at the bottom. It's always on top of everything (whis is also not ideal😂😂😂 my hands will do just fine 😅😅
U don't need to tip anyone. It's a courtesy. Only waiters are a must
Not true. Also if you want to. Most services are optional to tip in SA depends on you
These days they include the tip in the amount you owe
It's not a must to tip a waiter. I refuse to tip if the service is bad or standard (if you just serving me without going the extra mile why should I tip? )
Not even waiters. The service fee depends on the establishment.
We always leave the reusable bags in the car,then we will put our groceries in a trolley/cart,then pack them in bags when we get to the car
The carrier bag story is to try and deter use of plastic, not that it has much of an effect because the environment is still choking from excessive use of plastic, too much plastic pollution, clogging the storm water drainage system during cloud breaks, very noticeable along highways when the highway just gets waterlogged within seconds causing flooding crisis😢
Death by the Mr Jones expression of the contantless boom gate ticket wave 😂😂😂😂 petrol attendance mostly provides an excellent service and are very polite 👌🏾
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In the UK plastic bags /carrier bags are not free in Supermarkets
And Thank you!
Sugar is taxed in ZA. Might influence the price of sauces
Petrol attendants are not tipped for pumping petrol coz that's the service expected from them but cleaning your windscreen, checking your oil and pumping tyres is a favour they do so we tip for that. South Africans generally don't expect a tip for pumping petrol
I love the matching shirts. With plastic bags it’s just to preserve the environment. People used to litter plastics everywhere. They came up with a plan to prevent that and it’s working because you hardly see plastics all over the place these days. Tipping the petrol attendant is not compulsory, it’s just that you will feel compelled to tip them because they are normally so kind and they give the best service. I mean they will go to extend of washing your windscreen, checking your water and your tires. Car guards can be too much but some do deserve a tip . I however just give them R5 or R10 because I can imagine how it’s like standing on the sun the whole day. Parkate is sometimes owned by an independent company that’s why you have to pay but at some malls you will only pay if you stay for more than an hour . The more you stay you will pay. This is to ensure that you do not just leave your car and then it takes up the space for other people who can park there. I have never seen anyone put eggs at bottom when packing groceries yet 😂 but I do not invalidate your experience.
Who's these people scamming y'all for sauces? I've legit never paid for extra sauce
Lol 😆 😂
I am also wondering that! Where would this be??
It depends on the restaurant, if the sauce doesnt come with your plate but you want a different type of sauce or the menu has a set portion they do charge extra... i agree tho that 30ZAR for a sauce is criminal 😂
The buying bags in the USA would be Aldi grocery store.
Tipping is purely out of the goodness of your heart. Petrol/parking attendants & waitors/waitresses earn minimum or less than minimum wage. However, not a must nor a rule.
It’s the matching for me,
Ahhh ❤Chrystle
hahahhahahaha
Mrs Jones, I promise you, you are really not expected to tip when you only pump the gas (petrol) , you can tip when they wash your windows and pump your tires, but everywhere else yes we tip
She’s not just happy about it 😂
Ur nt always obliged to tip
ok ok ok that makes sense
I am South African living in Canada. We use to get free bags here in Canada and then they started selling them. Recently they CANCELLED plastic bags all together, and they only sell reusable bags or boxes. They are not cheap
It brought a smile to my face!! I do the same to my hubby
Unpack your trolley according to how you want your groceries. They can’t mess it up
The matching shirts are dope. 😎
Am surprised cause I don't remember paying for parking at Emperor's palace...😯and Petrol attendant don't really expect a tip, you only do from the kindness of your heart. Great content Fam!
Bro looks good with the short hair 💯
The trick with the parking attendants is to not respond when they greet because if you do, then you owe them lol
oh wow lol
Don't make eye contact either
we dont tip at the garage ( gas station )
True
Plastic bags used to be free, and as a way to discourage plastic in the country they started selling them…
Woolies bags are the best, we keep ours in the car so we don’t forget them.
If you do forget them in the car just take the trolley to the car and pack into your bags
Those gas attendants must be fighting to help you😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sometimes the parkade or the land on which the mall and parking lot is on is owned or run by another company altogether and not the developers of that mall...so they'll charge you... At times you're being charged for being afforded a secure area that minimizes chances of your car being stolen.
With parking attendants I often think about how in their difficult life they could've chosen a life of crime but they're choosing to stand in the sun or rain to watch customer cars... Even if they're not watching that intently... I pay them because they're doing something positive and life is hard enough for them... So why not spread love cos you won't miss that R5/R10.
😂Chrystle, you don't need to tip the patrol attendents or the parking attendents, it goes with your heart and the situation(your discretion) in those cases. Don't let them pressure you Sis, God knows your heart😂😂😂
The parking lot guys you also don’t have to pay, we mostly tip because most of them pay some dodgy company for the bibs they were. However you REALLY don’t have to tip
You are both looking so, so good with your matching tops. I love it❤❤❤❤
I love the matching of the clothes ❤
You can use the trolley until your car. You don't have to carry grocery with your hands. You can also go to different shop with the trolly carring groceries
Guys you should just put your staff in a trolley, you have a car. No need to buy bags
Hi guys....loving the content.....Just something you may consider with regards to the sauce situation. SA is extremely focused on healthy eating and ensuring that most processed or items regarding fats and sugars are not overused hence the pricing of sauces, IMO. I am South African and have visited the US back in 2014 whereby I saw first hand what the food differences and sizes compared to us here in SA. I think it's great that Crystal has found the less sauce option meaning that all that sugar intake has been reduced....LOL....Keep up the great content🔥...Much love from a mixed race Cape Coloured
Make sense 🤔 😉
Hilarious 😂 and very inciteful. Thank you
There are options of ordering tap water which is free unless you order water particularly where you can make your choice of water which you should pay for
Everything you said 💯
That bag-for-cleaning-out-the-fridge was legit, Mrs. Jones...Thank you👌🏼Funny bc tipping culture is getting out of hand here in the States as well (never imagined being asked at a drive thru sonic w no option to walk in!)
Right, that part 😂
Looking good Yall!!
Haha true sometimes they are hurting instead of helping. I tip them if I have or just say thank you .
Chrystle,
Don’t feel bad for checking all of your eggs, I do the same thing 😍
hahahaha you know she doesn't.
Hello Jones family, you don't have to tip petrol attendants, love your channel
It is a good thing to give though. R10 R15
@@thetad1242very high good tip.. We usually tip R2
1. Plastic bags - was free for the better part of our lives. Thought process behind paying for plastic bags is the hope that it would discourage shoppers from using as much plastic as it’s harmful to the environment, ocean etc. I personally still prefer the plastic bags ans at the same time sit with 100 billion Woolworths reusable bags that I never end up reusing.
2. Parking - you right about return on investment but look at it from a different angle…can you imagine the chaos and nightmare if parking were free at Sandton or any of your favourite shopping malls. It already can be a pain finding parking on any given day but free parking would result in a nightmare experience that one would never want to repeat. Also, a lot of people will use free parking as their daily/monthly parking when going to work and will result in you, the shopper struggling to find available parking spots because everyone else using these mall parking as their office parking.
3. Unofficial parking Gaurds is a scam…(but be careful) what you could do is when you pull up, don’t entertain long conversations and never pay the car guard before going in the mall…and when you come back, don’t feel compelled to tip (especially if you feel it’s not warranted) and then just drive away…you can soften that engagement with just a “thanks and goodbye”.
4. To be clear, gas attendants don’t expect a tip (it is a SA culture to tip petrol attendants) but I have almost never come across a gas attendant who expect a tip. In fact, they are rather professional and will clean your windows and put air in your tyres expecting nothing in return. I guess they use to getting tips that they don’t think anything of doing it for free as it’s part of their service (their job)
5. Water - when going out ti eat we understand that water is bottled water however some do (although few) would specify tap water which is free. However most South Africans understand that ordering water mean bottled water and not tap water. Ps: this refill bottled water is suspect…they most probably just filling it up with tap water and charging you for it (so make sure it’s bottled water with a closed cap)
6. Sauces - a giant scam (it should be free or included in the price of the burger/meal) period. This scam is often only associated with chain fast foods or higher end restaurants.
I'm looking to make the move and I'm taking notes. Yall look cute family 😊
Dont need to tip petrol attendants, its their job. Tip if you feel like it.
Like the fits btw❤
I do the same with eggs! And sugar too!
Man you are blessed..what a woman of substance you got there..
Tips are tips guys. You are not obligated to tip at the petrol station or parking lot. However, in the restaurant the person who's serving you isnt paid. They delend on the tips you hive them. Its always advisable to tip 10% of your total amount. You can go all out there.
You can use your Checkers or Restaurant till slip to pay for Parking at some Malls like Greenstone Mall.. Also don't throw away your till slip you can return your cracked eggs for full refund.
Thanks for sharing
*Parking
@@vuyokazimthethwa yes Thank you.
Cool outfits folks .. and hairdo u2 Ricky .. smooth
No petrol attendant don’t expect a tip it’s up to you to tip. They will even wash ur windscreen or pump tyres without expecting a tip, that’s a normal behaviour but if you refill at the same filling station and they used to you tipping, they will run to service you
Same in Panama. You have to bring your own bags.
As a South African I was surprised yesterday I was sold a paper bag at Woolworths clothing WHAT😅
I still feel weird about this. I feel like it’s a type of robbery😂
@@nangamsongxono8426daylight robbery
Huh????
Death by the Mr Jones expression of the contantless boom gate ticket wave 😂😂😂😂
Great information to share. While I was there, I was surprised to see the gas station attendant, which I thought was was cool. It reminded me when I was younger, it was normal to see. In the meantime, much blessings and Ubuntu!
agh man y'all got me hooked on your channel., i love your content , maybe i have so much interest because my boo is American and so in love with my country lol
Y’all look so cute ❤ I love the matching shirts
I can agree about parking attendents. Remember, they're hustling, guys. There's no pressure to tip them, but it's an act of kindness. Also, remember that most of them are from "poor" areas around the continent.
ok ok ok roger that!
Get yourself some sparkling water with a splash of cranberry juice and a lime 👌
We pay for grocerie bags too in MA
You don't have to buy the bag or plastic bag. Just put everything back in the trolley and push it out with you
….my two bobs worth , we pay for parking because office workers and other employees in the area will park for the whole day at the malls to avoid paying elsewhere and taking up shoppers space…not to mention stolen vehicles parked there to see if the anti theft unit has kicked in and the reaction units and cops are on the scene ….to be picked up later when it isn’t tracked.😜
I’ve never tipped anyone at the petrol stations
Same "help" offered in The Cote D'Ivoire.
Great video guys always a pleasure watching you guys and we cannot wait to get there and have dinner with you guys and the other African-Americans over there. By the way of course I'm a little older than you guys and Tipping was something they did a gas stations when they had full service here But I was a kid my parents pay for the gas at that time.
Get this, there are some small malls here in JHB like Southdale Mall n Centro where you pay to use the toilet.
I always forget the grocery bags at home 😅
Shirts are clean
Gas station is not expected, it’s on the client.
You guys look good in those outfits
I have packed my eggs at the bottom of the bags many times, never had cracked eggs, I have an issue with packing washing powder and other edible staff in same bag(bag of cips or sweets) its how you see it.
paying for parking is also part of the security mechanism... you need the ticket to exit. plastic bags are now paid for in an attempt to reduce their usage ... before these contaminated and littered the environment ... nowadays that is reduced. tipping at refueling stations (gas is called petrol) and also 'Car guards' is not an expected thing. Unlike in many other countries, we do not have the option of self-service at refueling stations it is in fact illegal to dispense your own fuel in South Africa. garage forecourt attendants do indeed mostly go the extra mile and yeah I think that they are worthy of a tip. A typical 'Car Guard earns between R5000 to R9000 from tips tax-free per month (it is actually not tax-exempt but how do you police that .... it's certainly not a 'job" I would like to do but if one is down and out its an option and I guess it's a form of social support (disguised begging) and it puts food on the table of refugees (many undocumented). You may notice that most 'car guards' are foreign (typically from Zimbabwe/ Malawi, and DRC so a bit of French or Swahili or Lingala will certainly help.) One of the biggest problems/opportunities (depending upon what side of the fence you sit) is the tjo-tjo ('spot fines"/solicited small bribes for traffic or other offences..... most (but not all) cops are unfortunately bribeable and will accept 'cool drink" money and let you go on your merry way (it's illegal of course) The protect against the E-Tols was ONLY in Gauteng.... pay your other tols...but that is now sorted and the eTol saga has come to an end (last month) with the protesting party having won..... the E-tol system was allegedly corrupt with suspected backhands having allegedly being paid to the powers that be. Water from the tap (faucet) is free... our potable (tap) water is supposedly drinkable ( well it certainly was in the past however much of the water treatment processes and plants are aged and outdated and personally I restrict consumption of even treated tapo water.... with the onset of modern diseases some of the medicines such as ARV's does pass through the human body into the wastewater from where it is often treated in the older technology plants and MAY make it back into the environment from where water is taken to be used as domestic water ...after treating by settling and disinfecting. so some of those types of residual chemicals/medicines MAy get through back into the drinking water. yes, of course, there are initiatives afoot to deal with these sophisticated contaminants but there is still a lot more to be done...however, on the plus point, there are far fewer agricultural chemicals such as glyphosate contaminating SA water sources in most areas.... not sure how bad it is in the wheat growing areas such as the Overberg region in the Western Cape where they use round-up (glyphosate) to enable them to have two crops a growing season. The RSA is a sophisticated country with some third-world problems.
A lot is better than it was before universal suffrage started but then again other things have gone backward... in my opinion, government education, security, and health systems and processes, still have a long way to go. On the other hand, the private sector is very innovative and MOSTLY conforms to first-world standards, having stepped in to provide great health, security, and education services .. often at a premium .. which is sad as we citizens pay our taxes for the state to provide effective services but it typically falls far below expectations and we do not get value for money from the state... the outcome of this is of course that the wealth gap between the poor and the wealthy continuously widens .... if the state did what they are supposed to do this gap could be closed. Government officials (general workers on average actually get remunerated more than the private sector) ..... there are over 6000 civil servants who earn more than R1 million... I don't understand how this number of civil servants earning so much can be justified as a government job MOSTLY is defined in the laws of the country and there is less requirement for thinking outside of the box than for a manager in the private sector that has to comply to the law AND still think innovatively to keep the company competitive. there are of course some jobs in the civil service that do require forward-thinking however the track record for important things is severely lacking .... I mean RSA has a major car manufacturing sector but does not even have a government policy on manufacturing EVs... other African countries (Ethiopia, Egypt, etc.) that have FAR smaller automotive industries already have EV policies in place.... it doesn't take rocket science to figure out that we URGENTLY need an EV policy to enable the existing automotive companies that build cars in the RSA to invest in new infrastructure and tooling to transform into EV producers here... yet there is (like in many other aspects) a laisse fare approach and very little proactive focus (well that is what is looks like from the outside.)
anyway enough rambling on ...yes I still love my country and I am certainly not planning of leaving but of course, I am allowed to point out what I think we can improve upon (for ALL our citizens!)
I’ve stopped going with reusable bags for grocery shopping here in the USA, I was also shocked with the use of plastic bags here, at first I would keep the plastic bags but not anymore because I can get as many as I want next time. The bags in S.A are big and strong too
Paying for water caught us off guard too 😂
Exactly that’s why we had to share so others would know
The reason why parking is paid in some places, is coz some people would park their cars in mall parking even when they not using the mall. So, when they pay for parking, it discourages people from just filling the mall parking with cars while they go on their other business.
The reason why you pay for your plastic bag, is for environmental purposes. Plastics polite the environment so, you are discouraged from just taking plastics coz they are free. Most people use the same plastics to avoid buying new ones and those with cars at the mall parking, do not buy plastics - they just take the trolley to the car with their goods and offload into the car. It is important to not use plastics if you don need to.
Paying for plastic bags is actually an environmental tax (to reduce our carbon footprint). And no, u don't tip petrol attendants, they get paid regular salaries by their employers - they mustn't take advantage of you/foreigners. Everyone who doesn't get a regular pay, they earn only tips - that's their only income.
Crystal, I feel you on the eggs…I do the same thing 😂 I check every egg to make sure there are no cracks! I get it 😂😂
Tipping at a garage for petrol is not a must, you can if you want to. When they go the extra mile you can tip but still not a must
Always good to keep in mind that SA has the highest unemployment rate (at least last time I checked) and our minimum wage is also really low. So people are just doing what they can to support their families. Yes it can be overboard and you need to be firm if you don’t want to be roped into paying for a service you don’t want (people cleaning your cars). But the tipping is a sometimes a big part of a person’s livelihood (especially car guards who aren’t paid in most cases- they rely completely on tipping).
It’s good to keep in mind- even when car guards etc. are being a bit annoying.
Christyle, you look really different from your videos from US, you look calm, down and relaxed now, your makeup looks more toned down, not dramatic, you look really you, your natural beauty is more showing than how you looked back home. You would wear your eyebrows, eyelashes, dramatic and hid your beauty. You are very beautiful, NATURALLY, I can even feel your humbleness, calmness now. Yhoooooo! You gorgeous nana
The malls make more money from the Parking Lots then the rental from the shops as the anchor tenants like Woolworths, checkers or Pick n Pay do not pay rent.
it is their job to pump patrol and you're not expected to tip. unless you asked them to do an extra job for you. like wiping your windows.
Due to environmental concerns they introduced reusable bags but they were for sale including the plastic bags, but one never remembers to bring the bags along when going shopping then you find yourself buying more bags, next minute you have a collection of bags😂 that happens a lot to me here in Ireland 🇿🇦 🇮🇪☘️
The tipping of petrol attendants is incorrect,you don’t have to and they don’t really expect it,it is up to you if you want to tip.