I mention early on that Sherpa is an ethnicity NOT a job title, then at 12:34 go onto say ‘their children don’t want to become Sherpas’ which I SHOULD say mountain guide. That’s a mistake from me! Suppose it reinforces how engrained the word Sherpa is in most of us as a job, not an ethnicity.
The creep from Malaysia who didn't give the Sherpa any gratitude for saving his life didn't want the world to know that he was basically carried off the mountain by the Shepa.!! He tried to hide the fact that he wasn't built for Everest and almost died.!! 😮😮😮
Thing is that unless you are from that region, hardly anyone is built for Everest. Like no one is going to be like oh look at the pu$$y that had to be saved from Everest. Most people with 2 brain cells to rub together get it. This is hard. We know people die trying. You gave it a good try and were lucky enough to be saved. Just give thanks to your hero, show some humility, and say I tried my best and maybe I'll try again when I'm better. That's it! People would have respected him but no that was too much to ask of him
Don't forget the Chinese client who abandoned their own chance to summit. Those expeditions cost a lot of money, but the person felt saving a life was more important. Let's be honest: some would've said I'm paying to summit Everest, not sponsor a rescue mission; they got themselves into this situation.
If you have to have an entire team of Sherpas carrying all your food and gear, fixing ropes and ladders for you and assisting you every step of the way, then what are you actually doing? "You" aren't really climbing, you're being led and shepherded along a path by Sherpas!
Well, actually a death rate among the tourists is still high enough... The Everest is pretty harsh and not suitable for people, especially for those who don't born in the mountains and have accomodation. Even with all gear and all help which money can buy, it's still a deadly challenge. But looks like a lot of people actually don't understand this and treat The Everest like some sort of attraction which you can perform without being a real climber.
For most people getting to the top, no matter the means, is what matters. They just want to brag and post about it on social media, for status. If there was an elevator to the top, they would take it
@@KarlaO711 Peaks of Yore has a highest summit close to that altitude. Though it's more of a "simulator" type game than a realistic depiction of climbing.
The type of people who treat the Sherpa's with no respect see them as the help nothing more. At least pay for there gear, these people are the true heros of Everest and should be treated that way.
True that. I said to someone else, people who have 100k disposable income to climb Everest, generally have ALOT more. Tipping the Sherpa 10k for a successful summit likely wouldn’t effect them much but could double the Sherpas income
@@friedsensei yeah but ur literally climbing the tallest mountain in the world WITH that person, it's not like the sherpa is going to rob you or something. they're literally there to help you succeed.
@@3nnik generally speaking the concern with tipping a rural villager something like 10k, likely cash, is that word gets around and you may cause some serious issues in their community by handed out a year's pay all willy-nilly. It's a nice idea but people have written about this at length.
@@friedsensei Apart from the below comment. They literally go beyond their duties. They put their lives at risk just to rescue people who are not even with them.
They do respect Sherpas but after paying 100k they don't have much left over to tip the Sherpa. They expect the Sherpa will get more than a few % of the 100k they paid and we really should be asking why the Sherpa's get such a small %.
People respect the sherpas about a thousand times more than they respect the climbers (or whatever you wanna call them). They’re, without a close second, the most highly regarded mountaineers on the planet
It's really hard for me to fathom his thought process. Like imagine freezing to your core, feeling like you might slip away at 8000m with no one around, a Sherpa finds you, you hold on for dear life as he carries you down 8000m over treacherous conditions, and then coming back to good health. How could you not just feel eternal gratitude to your real life guardian angel
The president of nepal for Mountaineers is right. It used to be a journey for real, extreme, and thoroughbred expeditors. More rookie adventurists have taken up the expedition just because they can afford it. This has caused these bottlenecks.
If you open the door to your house someone is going to come in. It really is the Nepali government’s responsibility to regulate the amount of people allowed, and to ensure that the Sherpas get a fair cut of the fees.
Why raise the prices? It's already an adventure for the wealthy. You want it to be an adventure for the super wealthy only? How about limiting the permits to true mountaineers that have demonstrated experience and have summited other mountains. Ones that are at least capable of doing it without the help of sherpas.
The permits need to include costs of removing your dead body if you died. That dude who summited 18 times shouldn't be celebrated because how many times you pass by dead bodies during those 18 times?
And how will they replace that revenue? It's not that I disagree with you, it's just that Nepal isn't exactly the most wealthy nation on earth and Everest permits make up something like 10-15% of their GDP
I wouldn't feel that way with Everest. Since I have felt a great accomplishment just being able to climb 14ers even though thousands of people are able to do it each year. It's the fact that I was able to do it. Not "only I was able to do it"
It seems to me that when most Everest summiteers recount their thrilling tales of victory over nature, they speak of the Sherpas as if they were equipment, not human beings. I really hope more and more Sherpas nope out of becoming mountain guides. Let these egotistical tourists discover for themselves how hard it is to summit on their own skills and merit. It'll be quite an educational experience for them. Admittedly, most won't outlive this epiphany for very long, but learning for its own sake is valuable.
In the 2015 documentary ‘Sherpa’, during one of the heated scenes in which the summit attempt is going to be cancelled by the tour operator, I recall one of the annoyed clients initially referring to a Sherpa guide as ‘it’. I felt grossed out by what seemed to me a revealing slip.
You guys are buggin. Are there some scumbags who don’t treat sherpas with respect? Absolutely but most people treat them with incredible respect. Secondly, if you “let tourists climb on their own then the Sherpas lose out on a tremendous income source. Regardless how this video portrayed things, the money Sherpas make is incredible for that part of the world. Your attempt to protect them by making climbers go alone is the thing that would hurt them more than anything. You do know they choose to do this job, right? You do know they aren’t slaves, right? You do know they understand the risks, right? You do know they have agency of their own and you don’t need to infantilize them, right?
@@Lifes-little-moments Did you watch the video? *This* generation of Sherpa mountain guides doesn't want their children to follow them into the profession. Yes, the pay is good, but the work is very, very dangerous. Sherpas are choosing of their own free will to spend the money they earn as mountain guides on their children's education, so they'll be able to have lucrative employment that's less insanely dangerous than ushering arrogant rich people up Mt. Everest and back down.
Let’s be honest, there will be fewer porters and they’ll charge more, but they’ll be there. Or we’ll get people from other high-altitude areas with lower income trying to do it themselves.
Helping people in an office through a phone connection, or dragging them up mountains at the highest point in the world, customer service will never be rid of its worst nightmare; customers.
Too many people climb out of ego, for social media clout, and other reasons other than they're capable and understand what actually goes into a feat of this magnitude. And nobody likes to put their lives on the line for people who don't respect, never mind appreciate their efforts. Climbing Mount Everest shouldn't be taken lightly. It's something that a lot of thought, research, and experience goes into. Much respect to those who help others preserve their lives.
Unfortunately as Sherpas fade from Everest it’ll just fall to these travel companies to provide guides and likely make Everest even more commercial than it already is. These climbers disgust me, they’ve turned Everest into a dump, and quite frankly I think Sherpas have been treated very poorly and it’s evident.
No, most Western climbers respect the Sherpas and know that without them there's no way they'd have much chance of summitting. It's the minority who don't. Yes the rubbish and debris that MANY climbers leave behind is disgraceful and so disrespectful to the mountain. Without Sherpa support, expeditions would have to fork out big money to replace the Sherpa with climbing guides plus there's far fewer qualified guides than Sherpa. That would be a good thing because I'm sure that it would reduce the number of climbers each year.
The disrespect the Sherpa guides get is more subtle than you realize. Sure, their rich clients sing the praises of Sherpas to their guides’ faces, but when those same guides try to tell them that they really shouldn’t be up on Sagarmatha because they lack the skill or conditioning, that conditions are unsafe to climb or that they need to turn back because they have altitude sickness and hypothermia, that’s when you see the disrespect. Most will listen, but a distressingly high number of bull headed, entitled fools push on, dragging their guides, who have responsibility for them, along. That’s when the risks increase and the tradgedies start to happen. That’s partly why the Sherpas as a community are starting to back away from work as guides. One thing not mentioned in this video is Nepalese government corruption. More about that and its effects on climbing in Nepal would have been appreciated. I also wonder if the Chinese/Tibetans have the same problems on the North Face of the mountain. A comparison about how climbing is handled there would be good.
This is an issue with the expedition companies though. Are the sherpas guides who can end the expedition and tell the client that if they choose to go on that they’re on their own, or are they just porters? On the Chinese side there has been an additional requirement to show you have climbed one or two 8000 meter mountains for Chinese nationals before a permit will be issued. It isn’t much, but it thins the numbers a little.
A serpentine waiting line at the Hilary Step is not mountaineering. Perhaps it’s extraordinarily dangerous and expensive eco tourism but it’s not mountaineering.
That’s what creeps me out the most, I genuinely couldn’t imagine waiting in a line at above 8000 meters having to squeeze past people to get your two minutes on top…
Also I wonder if such queues, will cause people to take unnecessary risks by climbing in slightly less ideal windows so that they reach the peak with less people
Real eco-tourism would be going to Everest specifically to remove garbage. My impression is the vast majority who are there to summit really don't care about adding to the trash pile, and they have already spent so much money, a couple thousand bucks probably doesn't matter. I can certainly see why the Sherpa community is backing away. Risking one's life on a daily basis to haul some novice climbers dumb butt up and down the mountain wouldn't appeal to me either.
$4,000-$10,000 to risk your life doing something you don’t want to do is insane and so sad. Also that Malaysian guy Ravichandran is an absolute disgrace.
Ravichandran.. hmm that's an indian name. Not surprised their people act this way. Utterly self-centered, always exploiting other people for minimal gains.
@@stellviahohenheimhe‘s talking about the Sherpa‘s remuneration for doing what they do (that they don’t want to do but have little choice due to Nepal‘s job market). 4k to 10k is the range of what they get paid per client (mentioned at 10:53). Their gear adds 7k every few years. I think the 100k you’re talking about is what the tourists spend (for something they want to do).
@@lexicron Except all those Sherpa's that don't do it. Turning down the money may be hard, but not impossible. The Sherpa's existed and survived before Everest expeditions, they will survive without them. Do not equate hardship to necessity.
I'm glad that ,in modern times, Tenzing Norgay is mentioned and gets credit for the first successful summit in 1953. When I was young, Sir Edmund Hilary was mentioned, but not always his sherpa.
@@dianacoles1017 his sherpa guide/assistant/climbing companion. People look for any way to be offended these days. Perhaps I should hire an editor and a lawyer before posting anything, but I doubt that would make a difference.
@@umi2751 I went with what I found online regarding spelling. I'm betting more people understood it the way I wrote it than the way you claim is correct.
It’s deeply depressing how little respect the Sherpas get. And yet it’s not even unique to Everest where the people so relied upon, who know the land, how best to survive and adapt to changing weather conditions are just swept aside (Vilhjalmur Stefansson is my arch nemesis). I wish there was a cap on how many people can actually climb per season tbh since I don’t think price increases will do a great deal to help
Yeah lets be honest, the people who can afford to climb, arn't going to be concerned with a few $1000 increase in permit costs, thats probably just skipping lunch for a day... It truly is INSANE to me how you can disrespect someone who saved your life, they wouldn't be climbing the mountain with out the icefall doctors putting their lives at risk to set ladders up etc!
As a kid learning about the "first" person to climb Mt Everest, I was sooooo confused about the first part when I learned there were guides??? Like, how can you be the first if you're being guided? I suppose that was the thing that prevented me from being interested in mountaineering. I mean, I probably couldn't anyway, but I may have been interested if it was presented in a more respectful way. Glad I'm not adding to the mountain of trash. Poor Nepalese people 😞
THIS! The hiking and climbing in the Chilean Patagonia has simply been capped precisely because everybody thinks they can go there. Not only it's dangerous, people just litter everything. The amazing locals not being recognized is a terrible worldwide phenomenon
Tbh this is why gatekeeping is important. Only people who value the field they’re trying to step into need to be stepping into it at all. People who understand and honor what they want to do, who are willing to respect and work hard for it. That’s how you find people who give a damn about anything and don’t go in flooding places with trash and not respecting the hard work that goes into things like this. If you wanna climb Everest as a novice and not respect the immense work that it takes to master it, then go for it but don’t expect everyone to cater to that or to hold your hand. Ultimately we can’t really tell another human not to explore earth… but if they wanna just get everything for free and immediately, they’re gonna have to learn the hard way.
Gatekeeping should be limited, but this certainly is the place for it! Situations like this. People should show respect when they go do anything, especially when it's not your backyard☹️
We really should call these guides what they really are, Sherpa Mountain Guides and Porters. Anyone born of Sherpa parents is a Sherpa, but they don't have to be a mountain guides or porters and they might be a time when almost none of them will be doing those jobs on Mount Everest. Without them, climbing Mount Everest, even with oxygen, will be nearly impossible. These Sherpa guides really don't get anywhere near the credit they deserve.
Without any question, "sherpas" are the backbone of everest! Without their hard work, experiences of expedition of this beautiful landmark, their abilities as native natural acclimatised heroes and their empathetic services for mountaineers, there certainly wouldn't be so many successful summits.
The SHERPA'S should establish some kind of Union and definitely demand more Money.!! IF these climbers can pay Thousands of dollars just on their equipment alone;; the Sherpa should be paid close to the guy's that's leading the expedition.!! The SHERPA'S really need to hold out and stand up for fair pay for risking their lives..!! 😮😮😮
A couple of major families set up their own firms similar to western ones who are successful. The reason being down to previous well known & successful sherpa earning enough to set up their sons in the business but there's not many. Other than those few, even the salaries mentioned are for guides/rope fixers etc who get people to the summit. There's a sliding pay scale for others. The porters, cooks, those who set up and run the various camps up and down, basically all but summit the climber yet are paid even less. The whole system takes advantage of them.
Lol, you clearly don't know how unions work. If they have the sense to collectively demand more wage, their wage wouldn't be that low to begin with. Their wage is low because they're ready to accept that wage and end up undercutting each other
Lmao...A certain group of people have been " discovering" various landmarks with the Natives leading the way for centuries. And causing death and destruction along the way.
Sherpa's should be respected, they're the literal experts. Everest should also be respected, if you're going to cut corners, you shouldn't even be making the attempt. That's not the mountain to take chances on.
I'm Swiss so I'm from a place with a long tradition of climber (even though I myself am not one). Even in my country with mountains nowhere near reaching the infamy or altitude of Everest, we've seen unprepared tourists come and go (sometimes not alive...) because they think it's just the fun thing to do from some instagram or tiktok reels. It has made visiting our mountains as locals not only a lot more expensive but also a lot more crowded and unenjoyable. I'm glad I know some really nice spots that are cheap and just as beautiful compared to the no. 1 tourist spots, but seeing the over crowding and all the rubbish and needless deaths - not least of all of Sherpas - happening on the Everest and other beautiful mountains is just sad and tragic. Also what a pathetic human being to not thank the person that saved your life! Can't believe the disrespect some people show. I wish the carrying down garbage rule was mandatory (as in, you can't opt out by paying a fee).
Same thing happens here in NZ. Many times tourists get into trouble, and sometimes fatal, because they don't appreciate the conditions. Often when stories come out we find that they were previously advised they were under prepared or the weather was going to change or whatever, which was ignored.
I hope they DO abandon tourists. Sherpas are so deeply tied to Everest and their respect for the mountains is sacred. Nobody knows Everest better or climbs better and they do the most perilous tasks like constantly creating the fixed lines and crossing the ice falls countless times per season. So many Sherpas have died and risked their lives attempting to save lives (strangers and clients) and made successful high risk rescues. They’re treated like rubbish by so many careless tourists are are wildly underpaid. Their lives are precious and worth so much more than their meagre pay. If they can’t be safer and better compensated they should have zero reason to entertain rich tourists. I know some companies pay them very well and they accompany proper mountaineers who have deep reverence for them but they’re the 1%. It’s so sad because they need the money but it should never come at this cost. The fact people don’t even know they’re an ethnic group says it all. I’ll unfollow channels or decline to follow if they don’t name Sherpas in their videos unless it’s because they go unnamed (which is sadly quite common in reporting). If I know they’ve been named though, and the channel fails to name them, I’m not interested in their content because they’re part of the problem.
Well, people generally learn to be more respectful of situations when they HAVE to. Harsh thing to say, but in the long run, letting Everest become as dangerous as other Himalayan mountains (and don't attract the less-experienced climbers) is probably a good thing. Assuming you can't/won't regulate the skill level of the climbers.
Very fair point. I agree with this. People left to their own devices will have to face the reality of what it's like to really climb a mountain in unpredictable terrain and weather. Carrying only what you can and rationing and being extremely responsible.
There is a restaurant in Golden Colorado called the Sherpa House that employs sherpas in the off season. They’re some of the nicest and most interesting people I’ve met!
Spoiled rich people who climb mountains to brag to their rich friends about ! And of course they leave their rubbish behind just like everyone in their class! They have people who clean up after them most of the time but not on the mountains!
Please read Into Thin Air. In the book Rob Hall and Sherpa took 2 tons of trash off the mountain that around 1990. Not only that people have contracted many sickness by drinking water with human and yak poop. Please read Into Thin Air!!!!!!!
These MtEverest tourists are usually millionaires. They can afford to pay the Sherpas more than $4000-10,000. There also needs to be higher requirements for the paying tourists to have climbed other peaks, have physical strength, stamina and knowledge tested beforehand. If you want to climb MtEverest safely, you need to be overqualified. Don't risk Sherpa's lives if you can prevent it with better prepared climbers.
They say it's a large amount of money for the area but I would say so what? They are risking their lives to keep you alive so you should pay them like your life depends on it(which it does)
I mean you skipped one huge aspect of why sherpa is leaving, with the Norwegian goverment paying sherpas top dollar to build paths through their mountains. Who would want to deal with the dangerous work and stupid yuppie tourists who oftentime put everyone at risk. Money talks and when working 1 summer in Norwegian pays the same amount as 10 years working everest its no wonder everyones quiting, nepal has no one to blame but themselve for losing all their top talent.
I back the Sherpas totally,as if there are no more, no more climbing Mt Everest, and the west can get down to the serious problem of getting all the humanoid pollution off Mt Everest, which many irresponsible humans have left behind ☮
What do you mean the West? Does that include the Russian, Chinese, Indian, Taiwanese, or Japanese? Are they all westerners too, or are you just a bigot?
Your comments read like a person in guilt, trying to flogg off the truth. There's people with a western culture thinking. Which includes thinking of ME,ME,ME and use and abuse, in all countries Your prejudice statement mentions and all the rest It takes a bigot to know a bigot,but you don't know me
I've never understood the urgent desire of mountain climbers to get to the top of tall mountains. They suffer from decreased oxygen. They are in freezing temperatures. They face misery and danger. Why do they do it? To get to the top? So what?? I don't get it.
Extreme sports street cred, is my guess? Not much someone else can say in a one-up contest to top "I climbed Everest and survived." Unless it's to say you've climbed it multiple times.
@@HumbleWooper That's an interesting take on it. Actually it's the only thing that makes sense.. Mountain climbing can't really be any fun. It's an endurance test. When they reach the summit, there has got to be an emotional "high" because they won, and didn't die. Then they get to tell the masses that they did the impossible. Street cred. I can see that.
Sad yet interesting. When I see the caterpillar line of climbers with hardly any distance between them I see only the climbers trekking up the mountain, with no apparent room for climbers descending. How is that possible?
It’s wild to me that you could have a conga line of 50 people or more supporting themselves and applying their weight on ONE fixed line. Most lines are only rated to less than 2,000lbs of impact force. Half a dozen climbers in an uncontrolled slide will snap the line. Scary. Also, regardless of climbing experience, some people lack the intellectual ability to safely navigate climbs like this. You could have someone with an iq of 130, in good physical condition, and 1 year of experience complete the climb successfully. Some of these fools simply have no business being on Everest and will get what they deserve.
Met someone who talking about his trip like it was a tourist trap. He was going on about how its a scam that they didn't take him to the summit because it was a little cloudy. I suspect he was trying to bribe them and no one was selling their life for his vanity pictures.
If the number of porters that can be hired on Evers has dropped, perhaps those porters have come to realize how little they get paid for a month important jobs they do including carrying a heavy object as well as sharpening the people who are not totally well. Being a Porter on Everest is a very dangerous job just to be there and several of them have scored summits of five to 10 times. How these well trained people could be paid to equal the dangers they take seems to be impossible which is another reason for Everest's climbing to stop. No one climbs Mount Everest, then it would be very difficult for someone to die on the slopes from climbing problems.
I understand that climbing Everest is an incredible feat… but the mere fact that there are traffic jambs on the way to the top says that it’s no longer rare enough to be considered as impressive as it was when Hilary did it. Assisting in an Everest rescue is more heroic and impressive than merely completing the climb, at this point. That said: *the sherpas are the heroes*
$600 for a trip that costs the climber you’re guiding and keeping alive $100k is absolutely fucking criminal. If I had the funds to climb the mountain, I’m making sure I also have the funds to give my guide at least two full stacks.
8:07 ok but SANITATION PADS?? (If they’re referring to what I’m thinking of) omg Wtf. And having the energy to cut out the name of the company but leave the rest of your garbage 😊should be a bannable offense.
mountain climbers really are a special kind of egotist. i would be on my knees worshiping anyone who carried someone down ANY mountain, let alone the everest.
Every REAL mountaineer has nothing but the deepest respect for the Sherpa people. They are for the Himalaya what Austrian and Swiss mountain guides are for the Alpes: the locals, the experts, those who graciously accept us in their territory, guide us and teach us and keep us safe. So that we too may experience the beauty and grace and savage power of the environment. If you want to mountaineer, you ask them what experience you need, what condition you need to be in, what gear you need and what routes are acceptable under the specific circumstances. And then you LISTEN to them, and thank them for their time and wisdom. Sadly, real mountaineers are increasingly rare on Mount Everest in this globalizing social media world.
So ive heard so many different stories. This was great. But how much does it actually cost. You have to get a permit which i heard was 50k then pay the sherpa 600, but you said 15k ? Just learning im not going im just really curious
Well, an expedition in total can cost up to $100,000 but this is split across many different things, you’re paying for flights, permits, accommodation, for the Sherpa, for the agency, for equipment etc. I don’t know the exact splits but the point is really that they pay SO much money yet so little goes to the Sherpas…
Shocking disrespect and arrogance, always suspected as much and the scant recognition these extremely brave men who make any attempt possible defies believe. Another excellent video
It's funny how they say "they conquer the mountain" when all the hard work is done by the Sherpas. It's like winning a race while on the back of a runner...
From my perspective their are two key reasons that most people should avoid Everest. One is over crowding. In many places on Everest the line of climbers is so dense that a small accident or a turn in the weather can lead to catastrophic results. Many years ago the number of experienced and trained climbers out numbered the tourists. Now most of the people on Everest are essentially tourists.
Even if I had trained for years, paid for permit, guides, gear etc etc and came across a queue that would leave me waiting in the death zone with the guides I had hired for hours - I would tell my team to turn around. It's not worth my life, their lives or the lives of others who are stuck behind us.
The trash deposit is the greatest idea I’ve ever heard. It’s so simple so simple. How is it? Not in place the entire time it’s so brilliant and people are so horrible. People are horrible but you know I love people the good ones.❤
Dude the world is full of places like that. At least with Everest you know there’s a good chance to die. Slip on a bit of black ice on the street at home and get accidentally hit by a car, you have no sense of danger but you’re just as dead/mangled. D3ath is everywhere, especially in the mundane
This is ludicrous that many people climbing the mountain at once they need to just shut this down nobody needs to climb Mount Everest it's just outrageous if they want to climb something go climb K2 and then say you've really climbed a scary mountain.
10:24 shame on this man for not thanking that brave, and caring Sherpa for saving his life. This is the world we live in though. May God bless the Sherpa. And prayers to the ungrateful dude, I pray he repents.
They aren't expeditioners, they're tourists, leaving trash on the mountain like people at a festival. People who don't respect nature enough to pick up after themselves don't deserve to enjoy it.
Without climbing Sherpa few climbers would be able to reach the summit. It's a matter of energy expenditure. Carrying each and every camp on ones back takes its toll. Then there's the Icefall. Very few climbers could get through the Icefall without the work of the Icefall Doctors that's riddled with crevasses and toppling ice often the size of a multi-story building. Though I can't see it happening. Sherpa can make a years income from just one expedition. It is what it is. Since it's an extremely dangerous job and considering that most climbing Sherpa are married and responsible for extended family, the life insurance needs to be raised to an amount that would care for a Sherpas family for life [Way less than one may think. Nepal is seriously impoverished so $50K would be sufficient. ATM I think that Sherpas lives are covered for $5K] Too bad if that would be an expensive proposition, a Sherpas family should not suffer excessively from the loss of their bread winner.
Mt. Everest should be respected, and that 'respect' doesn't mean anything if people 'conquer' Everest hundreds of times a year. I can respect the climbers who summited Everest for the first time, but each trip since where Sherpa's people have dedicated significant time and effort to make the task of climbing a mountain with international spiritual significance as easy as possible for the sake of Nepal capitalizing on a significant site to further drive tourism just feels like a slap in the face of the Sherpa and their culture.
Thank you for showcasing the Sherpas. They deserve so much more. Climbing a mountain in the cold isn't for me. I don't understand the desire. That's why I live in Florida. ❤
Maybe its time to consider why some individuals want to climb mountains at all and help them cure their mental illness rather than applaud them for doing downright crazy stuff and risking the lives of others in the process as well as their own. The ultimate adrenalin rush is not a good justification
I've never seen this take before, but you are so right. When a person with bipolar disorder does something self-destructive, we usually deduce that they are in a manic state and need intervention. This is the same self-destructive behavior. Sure...it's planned out meticulously whereas mania is not, but it is still self-destructive nonetheless.
at what point does it go from someone hiking has good mental health to climbing a mountain has bad mental health? and who are you to call other people crazy?
I don't understand how you can disrespect Sherpas. If climbing Everest is an achievement in of itself, and these guys do it, with equipment people can't bring or/and a whole ass person on their back, sometimes multiple times in a row to save people.
Only those who have summit without the help of sherpas have the bragging rights. If you need a Sherpa to help you summit and carry your load, you do not deserve the credit.
It’s not that. It’s the size of prize. More permits equals more climbers equals less Sherpa available. They aren’t quitting. The permits approved only even count Nepalese side attempts as the permits counted come from Nepal but don’t forget the Tibet northeast ridge was approved for the first time In 2024.
Celebrities climbing and crediting their sponsors and fans while ignoring the Sherpas who got them to the summit and back safely is so common I'm actually surprised when they *are* credited.
I mention early on that Sherpa is an ethnicity NOT a job title, then at 12:34 go onto say ‘their children don’t want to become Sherpas’ which I SHOULD say mountain guide.
That’s a mistake from me! Suppose it reinforces how engrained the word Sherpa is in most of us as a job, not an ethnicity.
You are good bro, it’s just wants engrained in us and thank you for th clarification
It is not an ethnicity , it is a caste, like the Ghurkas and the Tamang.
Seems to me that if there’s all those corpses still up there, coming down isn’t actually mandatory at all,
nope, nobody is allowed to make mistakes on the internet you need to be perfect.
They have Brown skin,so of course Whites are not going to respect them.
The creep from Malaysia who didn't give the Sherpa any gratitude for saving his life didn't want the world to know that he was basically carried off the mountain by the Shepa.!! He tried to hide the fact that he wasn't built for Everest and almost died.!! 😮😮😮
Thing is that unless you are from that region, hardly anyone is built for Everest. Like no one is going to be like oh look at the pu$$y that had to be saved from Everest. Most people with 2 brain cells to rub together get it. This is hard. We know people die trying. You gave it a good try and were lucky enough to be saved. Just give thanks to your hero, show some humility, and say I tried my best and maybe I'll try again when I'm better. That's it! People would have respected him but no that was too much to ask of him
He didn't even use his own money he was sponsored and dude was happy to shout-out the sponsor during interviews but not the person who saved him
Don't forget the Chinese client who abandoned their own chance to summit. Those expeditions cost a lot of money, but the person felt saving a life was more important. Let's be honest: some would've said I'm paying to summit Everest, not sponsor a rescue mission; they got themselves into this situation.
All cultures r equal
The sherpa saved the wrong guy
If you have to have an entire team of Sherpas carrying all your food and gear, fixing ropes and ladders for you and assisting you every step of the way, then what are you actually doing? "You" aren't really climbing, you're being led and shepherded along a path by Sherpas!
Exactly. Might as well go on a group tour escape house
Well, actually a death rate among the tourists is still high enough... The Everest is pretty harsh and not suitable for people, especially for those who don't born in the mountains and have accomodation. Even with all gear and all help which money can buy, it's still a deadly challenge.
But looks like a lot of people actually don't understand this and treat The Everest like some sort of attraction which you can perform without being a real climber.
At this point, is there a mount everest climbing simulator? I mean I would totally climb that at the safety of my home ngl xD
For most people getting to the top, no matter the means, is what matters. They just want to brag and post about it on social media, for status. If there was an elevator to the top, they would take it
@@KarlaO711 Peaks of Yore has a highest summit close to that altitude. Though it's more of a "simulator" type game than a realistic depiction of climbing.
The type of people who treat the Sherpa's with no respect see them as the help nothing more. At least pay for there gear, these people are the true heros of Everest and should be treated that way.
True that. I said to someone else, people who have 100k disposable income to climb Everest, generally have ALOT more. Tipping the Sherpa 10k for a successful summit likely wouldn’t effect them much but could double the Sherpas income
@@EverythingExplaineddanyone who travels knows you shouldn't do stuff like that. It's like the prime directive in star trek lol.
@@friedsensei yeah but ur literally climbing the tallest mountain in the world WITH that person, it's not like the sherpa is going to rob you or something. they're literally there to help you succeed.
@@3nnik generally speaking the concern with tipping a rural villager something like 10k, likely cash, is that word gets around and you may cause some serious issues in their community by handed out a year's pay all willy-nilly. It's a nice idea but people have written about this at length.
@@friedsensei Apart from the below comment. They literally go beyond their duties. They put their lives at risk just to rescue people who are not even with them.
i dont even know why people dont respect sherpas, theyre literally the goats of mountaineering
I really agree, I couldn't believe that story when I did the research for this video...
They do respect Sherpas but after paying 100k they don't have much left over to tip the Sherpa. They expect the Sherpa will get more than a few % of the 100k they paid and we really should be asking why the Sherpa's get such a small %.
@@Weathernerd27yeah and that. But also respect doesn’t just equal money as was the case with Ravichandran
People respect the sherpas about a thousand times more than they respect the climbers (or whatever you wanna call them). They’re, without a close second, the most highly regarded mountaineers on the planet
Don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone disrespect a Sherpa, their borderline worshipped in the mountaineering world
Dude's ego couldn't handle being saved by a sherpa, what a baby!
I know
That was a really dishonorable thing he did. Then trying to back pedal, what a loser.
It's really hard for me to fathom his thought process. Like imagine freezing to your core, feeling like you might slip away at 8000m with no one around, a Sherpa finds you, you hold on for dear life as he carries you down 8000m over treacherous conditions, and then coming back to good health. How could you not just feel eternal gratitude to your real life guardian angel
@@Essdyn my guess is that he wanted to kiss the Chinese’s guy boots to please him, or he was told to praise the Chinese guy instead.
Exactly! He was shamed that had to have help, and probably upset the sherpa was getting praise that was taking away his shine.
The president of nepal for Mountaineers is right. It used to be a journey for real, extreme, and thoroughbred expeditors. More rookie adventurists have taken up the expedition just because they can afford it. This has caused these bottlenecks.
it really has
most of them weren't even that rich, they find sponsors who would gladly turn them into a walking advertisement.
If you open the door to your house someone is going to come in. It really is the Nepali government’s responsibility to regulate the amount of people allowed, and to ensure that the Sherpas get a fair cut of the fees.
Edmund Hillary started some schools in Nepal for Sherpa children, so that they could try to break out of the cycle of being porters.
what a man
I need to figure out how to support it!!! They deserve better than being glorified pack mules!
The Nepalese govt. needs to limit the permits. Raise the prices but limit the numbers. It's ridiculous.
Why raise the prices? It's already an adventure for the wealthy. You want it to be an adventure for the super wealthy only?
How about limiting the permits to true mountaineers that have demonstrated experience and have summited other mountains. Ones that are at least capable of doing it without the help of sherpas.
The permits need to include costs of removing your dead body if you died. That dude who summited 18 times shouldn't be celebrated because how many times you pass by dead bodies during those 18 times?
India isn’t good with money, look at their sewage and plumbing system.
And how will they replace that revenue? It's not that I disagree with you, it's just that Nepal isn't exactly the most wealthy nation on earth and Everest permits make up something like 10-15% of their GDP
This
kinda kills the great achievement sensation when i got 50 people in front of me and 50 behind
yep
I wouldn't feel that way with Everest. Since I have felt a great accomplishment just being able to climb 14ers even though thousands of people are able to do it each year. It's the fact that I was able to do it. Not "only I was able to do it"
The only thing left is a freaking toll booth.
@@waffle8364You're not getting his point. How hard is it, really, if this long line of people are running through it like a lunch line.
@@curtsiekert lets see you get to base camp. when you cant even do that we'll know how hard it is
Thank you for supporting the Sherpas.
always
It seems to me that when most Everest summiteers recount their thrilling tales of victory over nature, they speak of the Sherpas as if they were equipment, not human beings.
I really hope more and more Sherpas nope out of becoming mountain guides. Let these egotistical tourists discover for themselves how hard it is to summit on their own skills and merit. It'll be quite an educational experience for them. Admittedly, most won't outlive this epiphany for very long, but learning for its own sake is valuable.
In the 2015 documentary ‘Sherpa’, during one of the heated scenes in which the summit attempt is going to be cancelled by the tour operator, I recall one of the annoyed clients initially referring to a Sherpa guide as ‘it’. I felt grossed out by what seemed to me a revealing slip.
Let the tourists climb on their own. They'll become useful navigation markers.
You guys are buggin. Are there some scumbags who don’t treat sherpas with respect? Absolutely but most people treat them with incredible respect.
Secondly, if you “let tourists climb on their own then the Sherpas lose out on a tremendous income source. Regardless how this video portrayed things, the money Sherpas make is incredible for that part of the world.
Your attempt to protect them by making climbers go alone is the thing that would hurt them more than anything.
You do know they choose to do this job, right? You do know they aren’t slaves, right? You do know they understand the risks, right? You do know they have agency of their own and you don’t need to infantilize them, right?
@@Lifes-little-moments Did you watch the video? *This* generation of Sherpa mountain guides doesn't want their children to follow them into the profession. Yes, the pay is good, but the work is very, very dangerous. Sherpas are choosing of their own free will to spend the money they earn as mountain guides on their children's education, so they'll be able to have lucrative employment that's less insanely dangerous than ushering arrogant rich people up Mt. Everest and back down.
Let’s be honest, there will be fewer porters and they’ll charge more, but they’ll be there. Or we’ll get people from other high-altitude areas with lower income trying to do it themselves.
Helping people in an office through a phone connection, or dragging them up mountains at the highest point in the world, customer service will never be rid of its worst nightmare; customers.
For someone who has worked in different service fields, this hit home
Too many people climb out of ego, for social media clout, and other reasons other than they're capable and understand what actually goes into a feat of this magnitude.
And nobody likes to put their lives on the line for people who don't respect, never mind appreciate their efforts.
Climbing Mount Everest shouldn't be taken lightly. It's something that a lot of thought, research, and experience goes into.
Much respect to those who help others preserve their lives.
That pos who owes his life to the Sherpa and then films isn’t giving whom credit and blocked him is an animal.
yep.
I agree
we're all animals. are you a plant? or maybe a snowflake?
Unfortunately as Sherpas fade from Everest it’ll just fall to these travel companies to provide guides and likely make Everest even more commercial than it already is.
These climbers disgust me, they’ve turned Everest into a dump, and quite frankly I think Sherpas have been treated very poorly and it’s evident.
You're very wrong, and this video is a lie.
No, most Western climbers respect the Sherpas and know that without them there's no way they'd have much chance of summitting. It's the minority who don't.
Yes the rubbish and debris that MANY climbers leave behind is disgraceful and so disrespectful to the mountain.
Without Sherpa support, expeditions would have to fork out big money to replace the Sherpa with climbing guides plus there's far fewer qualified guides than Sherpa.
That would be a good thing because I'm sure that it would reduce the number of climbers each year.
The disrespect the Sherpa guides get is more subtle than you realize. Sure, their rich clients sing the praises of Sherpas to their guides’ faces, but when those same guides try to tell them that they really shouldn’t be up on Sagarmatha because they lack the skill or conditioning, that conditions are unsafe to climb or that they need to turn back because they have altitude sickness and hypothermia, that’s when you see the disrespect. Most will listen, but a distressingly high number of bull headed, entitled fools push on, dragging their guides, who have responsibility for them, along. That’s when the risks increase and the tradgedies start to happen. That’s partly why the Sherpas as a community are starting to back away from work as guides.
One thing not mentioned in this video is Nepalese government corruption. More about that and its effects on climbing in Nepal would have been appreciated.
I also wonder if the Chinese/Tibetans have the same problems on the North Face of the mountain. A comparison about how climbing is handled there would be good.
@johngillespie9459 Sherpa's aren't liable for anyone that disagrees with their advice, hence why Sherpas walk away from people on the mountain.
This is an issue with the expedition companies though. Are the sherpas guides who can end the expedition and tell the client that if they choose to go on that they’re on their own, or are they just porters?
On the Chinese side there has been an additional requirement to show you have climbed one or two 8000 meter mountains for Chinese nationals before a permit will be issued. It isn’t much, but it thins the numbers a little.
A serpentine waiting line at the Hilary Step is not mountaineering. Perhaps it’s extraordinarily dangerous and expensive eco tourism but it’s not mountaineering.
That’s what creeps me out the most, I genuinely couldn’t imagine waiting in a line at above 8000 meters having to squeeze past people to get your two minutes on top…
Also I wonder if such queues, will cause people to take unnecessary risks by climbing in slightly less ideal windows so that they reach the peak with less people
@EverythingExplainedd Real alpinists no doubt still climb the mountain by routes other than the two used by the tourists and without using Sherpas.
Real eco-tourism would be going to Everest specifically to remove garbage. My impression is the vast majority who are there to summit really don't care about adding to the trash pile, and they have already spent so much money, a couple thousand bucks probably doesn't matter. I can certainly see why the Sherpa community is backing away. Risking one's life on a daily basis to haul some novice climbers dumb butt up and down the mountain wouldn't appeal to me either.
@@sully2737 Ok, ego tourism then.
$4,000-$10,000 to risk your life doing something you don’t want to do is insane and so sad.
Also that Malaysian guy Ravichandran is an absolute disgrace.
including travel costs and gear it's more like 100k
Ravichandran.. hmm that's an indian name. Not surprised their people act this way. Utterly self-centered, always exploiting other people for minimal gains.
@@stellviahohenheimhe‘s talking about the Sherpa‘s remuneration for doing what they do (that they don’t want to do but have little choice due to Nepal‘s job market). 4k to 10k is the range of what they get paid per client (mentioned at 10:53). Their gear adds 7k every few years. I think the 100k you’re talking about is what the tourists spend (for something they want to do).
@@lexicron the gear subtracts 7k if theyre buying it out of pocket
@@lexicron Except all those Sherpa's that don't do it. Turning down the money may be hard, but not impossible. The Sherpa's existed and survived before Everest expeditions, they will survive without them. Do not equate hardship to necessity.
I'm glad that ,in modern times, Tenzing Norgay is mentioned and gets credit for the first successful summit in 1953. When I was young, Sir Edmund Hilary was mentioned, but not always his sherpa.
'his' Sherpa?
His name ia Tenzin Orge
@@dianacoles1017 his sherpa guide/assistant/climbing companion. People look for any way to be offended these days. Perhaps I should hire an editor and a lawyer before posting anything, but I doubt that would make a difference.
@@umi2751 I went with what I found online regarding spelling. I'm betting more people understood it the way I wrote it than the way you claim is correct.
@@dennisobrien3618 right on!
its turned into a deadly disneyland
yep
That exists already, it’s called Disney land shanghai 😅 (refer to the news on it)
It’s deeply depressing how little respect the Sherpas get. And yet it’s not even unique to Everest where the people so relied upon, who know the land, how best to survive and adapt to changing weather conditions are just swept aside (Vilhjalmur Stefansson is my arch nemesis). I wish there was a cap on how many people can actually climb per season tbh since I don’t think price increases will do a great deal to help
Yeah lets be honest, the people who can afford to climb, arn't going to be concerned with a few $1000 increase in permit costs, thats probably just skipping lunch for a day...
It truly is INSANE to me how you can disrespect someone who saved your life, they wouldn't be climbing the mountain with out the icefall doctors putting their lives at risk to set ladders up etc!
As a kid learning about the "first" person to climb Mt Everest, I was sooooo confused about the first part when I learned there were guides??? Like, how can you be the first if you're being guided? I suppose that was the thing that prevented me from being interested in mountaineering. I mean, I probably couldn't anyway, but I may have been interested if it was presented in a more respectful way. Glad I'm not adding to the mountain of trash. Poor Nepalese people 😞
THIS! The hiking and climbing in the Chilean Patagonia has simply been capped precisely because everybody thinks they can go there. Not only it's dangerous, people just litter everything. The amazing locals not being recognized is a terrible worldwide phenomenon
The Sherpas should lead everyone to the summit and then go on strike lol.
Respect to the REAL climbers, the sherpas
10:10 The Sherpa carrying the man on his back looks like a scene from Death Stranding
indeed
Tbh this is why gatekeeping is important. Only people who value the field they’re trying to step into need to be stepping into it at all. People who understand and honor what they want to do, who are willing to respect and work hard for it.
That’s how you find people who give a damn about anything and don’t go in flooding places with trash and not respecting the hard work that goes into things like this. If you wanna climb Everest as a novice and not respect the immense work that it takes to master it, then go for it but don’t expect everyone to cater to that or to hold your hand. Ultimately we can’t really tell another human not to explore earth… but if they wanna just get everything for free and immediately, they’re gonna have to learn the hard way.
facts
Gatekeeping should be limited, but this certainly is the place for it! Situations like this. People should show respect when they go do anything, especially when it's not your backyard☹️
We really should call these guides what they really are, Sherpa Mountain Guides and Porters. Anyone born of Sherpa parents is a Sherpa, but they don't have to be a mountain guides or porters and they might be a time when almost none of them will be doing those jobs on Mount Everest. Without them, climbing Mount Everest, even with oxygen, will be nearly impossible. These Sherpa guides really don't get anywhere near the credit they deserve.
Without any question, "sherpas" are the backbone of everest! Without their hard work, experiences of expedition of this beautiful landmark, their abilities as native natural acclimatised heroes and their empathetic services for mountaineers, there certainly wouldn't be so many successful summits.
they are!
It is now just a dumping ground for the ignorant rich
The SHERPA'S should establish some kind of Union and definitely demand more Money.!! IF these climbers can pay Thousands of dollars just on their equipment alone;; the Sherpa should be paid close to the guy's that's leading the expedition.!! The SHERPA'S really need to hold out and stand up for fair pay for risking their lives..!! 😮😮😮
A couple of major families set up their own firms similar to western ones who are successful. The reason being down to previous well known & successful sherpa earning enough to set up their sons in the business but there's not many. Other than those few, even the salaries mentioned are for guides/rope fixers etc who get people to the summit. There's a sliding pay scale for others. The porters, cooks, those who set up and run the various camps up and down, basically all but summit the climber yet are paid even less. The whole system takes advantage of them.
Lol, you clearly don't know how unions work. If they have the sense to collectively demand more wage, their wage wouldn't be that low to begin with. Their wage is low because they're ready to accept that wage and end up undercutting each other
Im gonna pay someone to help me drag my ass up a mountain then run around and act like i did it myself..
I climb these peaks regularly, and sherpas don't "drag me up." However, it's now illegal to climb without them.
This video isn't even accurate 😂🤦♂️
simpsons literally did this
@@lf67hh28 and then everyone clapped
Lmao...A certain group of people have been " discovering" various landmarks with the Natives leading the way for centuries.
And causing death and destruction along the way.
@@elw2827 Do elaborate, kid 😂
Sherpa's should be respected, they're the literal experts. Everest should also be respected, if you're going to cut corners, you shouldn't even be making the attempt. That's not the mountain to take chances on.
I'm Swiss so I'm from a place with a long tradition of climber (even though I myself am not one). Even in my country with mountains nowhere near reaching the infamy or altitude of Everest, we've seen unprepared tourists come and go (sometimes not alive...) because they think it's just the fun thing to do from some instagram or tiktok reels. It has made visiting our mountains as locals not only a lot more expensive but also a lot more crowded and unenjoyable. I'm glad I know some really nice spots that are cheap and just as beautiful compared to the no. 1 tourist spots, but seeing the over crowding and all the rubbish and needless deaths - not least of all of Sherpas - happening on the Everest and other beautiful mountains is just sad and tragic.
Also what a pathetic human being to not thank the person that saved your life! Can't believe the disrespect some people show. I wish the carrying down garbage rule was mandatory (as in, you can't opt out by paying a fee).
Same thing happens here in NZ. Many times tourists get into trouble, and sometimes fatal, because they don't appreciate the conditions. Often when stories come out we find that they were previously advised they were under prepared or the weather was going to change or whatever, which was ignored.
I hope they DO abandon tourists. Sherpas are so deeply tied to Everest and their respect for the mountains is sacred. Nobody knows Everest better or climbs better and they do the most perilous tasks like constantly creating the fixed lines and crossing the ice falls countless times per season. So many Sherpas have died and risked their lives attempting to save lives (strangers and clients) and made successful high risk rescues.
They’re treated like rubbish by so many careless tourists are are wildly underpaid. Their lives are precious and worth so much more than their meagre pay. If they can’t be safer and better compensated they should have zero reason to entertain rich tourists.
I know some companies pay them very well and they accompany proper mountaineers who have deep reverence for them but they’re the 1%.
It’s so sad because they need the money but it should never come at this cost. The fact people don’t even know they’re an ethnic group says it all.
I’ll unfollow channels or decline to follow if they don’t name Sherpas in their videos unless it’s because they go unnamed (which is sadly quite common in reporting). If I know they’ve been named though, and the channel fails to name them, I’m not interested in their content because they’re part of the problem.
if sherpas could count they wouldnt have to climb mountains
Well, people generally learn to be more respectful of situations when they HAVE to. Harsh thing to say, but in the long run, letting Everest become as dangerous as other Himalayan mountains (and don't attract the less-experienced climbers) is probably a good thing. Assuming you can't/won't regulate the skill level of the climbers.
Very fair point. I agree with this. People left to their own devices will have to face the reality of what it's like to really climb a mountain in unpredictable terrain and weather. Carrying only what you can and rationing and being extremely responsible.
There is a restaurant in Golden Colorado called the Sherpa House that employs sherpas in the off season. They’re some of the nicest and most interesting people I’ve met!
I have to visit it one day!!!
Spoiled rich people who climb mountains to brag to their rich friends about ! And of course they leave their rubbish behind just like everyone in their class! They have people who clean up after them most of the time but not on the mountains!
Actually the sherpas try to keep it clean. They actually respect the mountain!
Stop being a hater just because you aren't capable. Those who can, do.
I don't even think he is that rich because he had sponsors that paid for it. That's who he actually thanked
@@lf67hh28 I hate the ignorant arrogant and often useless who pay others to hide their own incompitance
@gowdsake7103 You're so naive, it's illegal to climb without a sherpa regardless of capability.
Suggest you do better research. 🤷♂️
I feel the Sherpa should be paid ahead of time Before the climb The money should be given over and the advance Before the climb
then why should they climb if they were already paid?
@@will.green. They're not dogs, as if you give them the treat first they will have no need to do the trick.
😮😮The best way to solve the problem is to require everyone to carry their own supplies and food. The Sherpa should have the role of guide and advice.
I will never understand what compels someone to stand in line to reach the top.
Be “Number 1” just like everyone else 😂
Ego
Please read Into Thin Air. In the book Rob Hall and Sherpa took 2 tons of trash off the mountain that around 1990. Not only that people have contracted many sickness by drinking water with human and yak poop. Please read Into Thin Air!!!!!!!
These MtEverest tourists are usually millionaires. They can afford to pay the Sherpas more than $4000-10,000.
There also needs to be higher requirements for the paying tourists to have climbed other peaks, have physical strength, stamina and knowledge tested beforehand. If you want to climb MtEverest safely, you need to be overqualified. Don't risk Sherpa's lives if you can prevent it with better prepared climbers.
They say it's a large amount of money for the area but I would say so what? They are risking their lives to keep you alive so you should pay them like your life depends on it(which it does)
@@suzannekirkwood6392 so they dont get paid if you die?
How can you not even thank the guy who carried you to save you!? The utter arrogance of that is mind blowing
its CRAZY isnt it
This guy that is alive because of this Sherpa is a disgrace
Truly, if you go on his Instagram he’s still climbing mountains
@@EverythingExplaineddif I were he, I would not go on another expedition without praying to the mountain god for forgiveness.
I mean you skipped one huge aspect of why sherpa is leaving, with the Norwegian goverment paying sherpas top dollar to build paths through their mountains. Who would want to deal with the dangerous work and stupid yuppie tourists who oftentime put everyone at risk. Money talks and when working 1 summer in Norwegian pays the same amount as 10 years working everest its no wonder everyones quiting, nepal has no one to blame but themselve for losing all their top talent.
I back the Sherpas totally,as if there are no more, no more climbing Mt Everest, and the west can get down to the serious problem of getting all the humanoid pollution off Mt Everest, which many irresponsible humans have left behind ☮
It’s so sad that we as humans are so selfish we literally leave RUBBISH on one of the most pure places on earth
What do you mean the West? Does that include the Russian, Chinese, Indian, Taiwanese, or Japanese? Are they all westerners too, or are you just a bigot?
Your comments read like a person in guilt, trying to flogg off the truth. There's people with a western culture thinking. Which includes thinking of ME,ME,ME and use and abuse, in all countries Your prejudice statement mentions and all the rest
It takes a bigot to know a bigot,but you don't know me
Why it’s the Sherpa’s fault it got to this point.
@@rickp3753Americans only consume news from their own country that's why most of them are so bad at geography
Sherpas are the shephards of this beautiful breathtaking nature! Everest and their deceased forever in our hearts❤
they are indeed
Okay bot I’m sure you know
@@Willrocs
No one is making bots to praise sherpas on TH-cam videos. Get a grip.
I've never understood the urgent desire of mountain climbers to get to the top of tall mountains. They suffer from decreased oxygen. They are in freezing temperatures. They face misery and danger. Why do they do it? To get to the top? So what?? I don't get it.
Basically yolo
Extreme sports street cred, is my guess? Not much someone else can say in a one-up contest to top "I climbed Everest and survived." Unless it's to say you've climbed it multiple times.
@@HumbleWooper That's an interesting take on it. Actually it's the only thing that makes sense.. Mountain climbing can't really be any fun. It's an endurance test. When they reach the summit, there has got to be an emotional "high" because they won, and didn't die. Then they get to tell the masses that they did the impossible. Street cred. I can see that.
Ego
Because it's there.
Sad yet interesting. When I see the caterpillar line of climbers with hardly any distance between them I see only the climbers trekking up the mountain, with no apparent room for climbers descending. How is that possible?
Skip to 09:17 to get past the fluff.
The Sherpa need a union
Facts
It’s wild to me that you could have a conga line of 50 people or more supporting themselves and applying their weight on ONE fixed line. Most lines are only rated to less than 2,000lbs of impact force. Half a dozen climbers in an uncontrolled slide will snap the line. Scary.
Also, regardless of climbing experience, some people lack the intellectual ability to safely navigate climbs like this. You could have someone with an iq of 130, in good physical condition, and 1 year of experience complete the climb successfully. Some of these fools simply have no business being on Everest and will get what they deserve.
Met someone who talking about his trip like it was a tourist trap. He was going on about how its a scam that they didn't take him to the summit because it was a little cloudy. I suspect he was trying to bribe them and no one was selling their life for his vanity pictures.
If the number of porters that can be hired on Evers has dropped, perhaps those porters have come to realize how little they get paid for a month important jobs they do including carrying a heavy object as well as sharpening the people who are not totally well. Being a Porter on Everest is a very dangerous job just to be there and several of them have scored summits of five to 10 times. How these well trained people could be paid to equal the dangers they take seems to be impossible which is another reason for Everest's climbing to stop.
No one climbs Mount Everest, then it would be very difficult for someone to die on the slopes from climbing problems.
I understand that climbing Everest is an incredible feat… but the mere fact that there are traffic jambs on the way to the top says that it’s no longer rare enough to be considered as impressive as it was when Hilary did it.
Assisting in an Everest rescue is more heroic and impressive than merely completing the climb, at this point.
That said: *the sherpas are the heroes*
sherpas are the heros but you forgot to mention tenzing?
$600 for a trip that costs the climber you’re guiding and keeping alive $100k is absolutely fucking criminal.
If I had the funds to climb the mountain, I’m making sure I also have the funds to give my guide at least two full stacks.
Governments don’t care if you want to die on a hill, but love the income it provides.
I would never leave the comfort and warmth of my home to possibly freeze to death in horrible fashion.
8:07 ok but SANITATION PADS?? (If they’re referring to what I’m thinking of) omg Wtf. And having the energy to cut out the name of the company but leave the rest of your garbage 😊should be a bannable offense.
It couldn’t be me! Those dudes are so skilled and so brave. If I even think about the ice fall too hard, I feel sick, that’s how scary that thing is.
mountain climbers really are a special kind of egotist. i would be on my knees worshiping anyone who carried someone down ANY mountain, let alone the everest.
Every REAL mountaineer has nothing but the deepest respect for the Sherpa people.
They are for the Himalaya what Austrian and Swiss mountain guides are for the Alpes: the locals, the experts, those who graciously accept us in their territory, guide us and teach us and keep us safe. So that we too may experience the beauty and grace and savage power of the environment.
If you want to mountaineer, you ask them what experience you need, what condition you need to be in, what gear you need and what routes are acceptable under the specific circumstances. And then you LISTEN to them, and thank them for their time and wisdom.
Sadly, real mountaineers are increasingly rare on Mount Everest in this globalizing social media world.
So ive heard so many different stories. This was great. But how much does it actually cost. You have to get a permit which i heard was 50k then pay the sherpa 600, but you said 15k ? Just learning im not going im just really curious
Well, an expedition in total can cost up to $100,000 but this is split across many different things, you’re paying for flights, permits, accommodation, for the Sherpa, for the agency, for equipment etc. I don’t know the exact splits but the point is really that they pay SO much money yet so little goes to the Sherpas…
Really insightful and informative as always!
Shocking disrespect and arrogance, always suspected as much and the scant recognition these extremely brave men who make any attempt possible defies believe. Another excellent video
thanks pops!
It's funny how they say "they conquer the mountain" when all the hard work is done by the Sherpas. It's like winning a race while on the back of a runner...
how would you win is he running backwards?
@will.green. exactly the point
Glad the heroic Sherpa’s Chinese client agreed to call off the climb to save a life - I bet not every selfish soul there would have agreed :(
From my perspective their are two key reasons that most people should avoid Everest. One is over crowding. In many places on Everest the line of climbers is so dense that a small accident or a turn in the weather can lead to catastrophic results. Many years ago the number of experienced and trained climbers out numbered the tourists. Now most of the people on Everest are essentially tourists.
I want to thank this video for explaining the Sherpa’s as a certain people and not a profession. A+
yep theyre a certain people. wink wink
What climbers have done to Everest is a tragedy and I hope all the Sherpas quit. Climbers have caused enough damage.
Even if I had trained for years, paid for permit, guides, gear etc etc and came across a queue that would leave me waiting in the death zone with the guides I had hired for hours - I would tell my team to turn around. It's not worth my life, their lives or the lives of others who are stuck behind us.
The trash deposit is the greatest idea I’ve ever heard. It’s so simple so simple. How is it? Not in place the entire time it’s so brilliant and people are so horrible. People are horrible but you know I love people the good ones.❤
bump it to 100k why not
i wouldnt want to go somewhere where its slippery and if i trip and fall im dead
mountains arnt for you then buddy
Dude the world is full of places like that. At least with Everest you know there’s a good chance to die. Slip on a bit of black ice on the street at home and get accidentally hit by a car, you have no sense of danger but you’re just as dead/mangled. D3ath is everywhere, especially in the mundane
I mean the sidewalk can get iced over and that could happen to you 😂
@@neffyg35 thats why i always walk on the sidewalk
Having the numbers of rich jag-offs reduced by Everest is not the worst idea I have heard. Feel bad for the Sherpas though.
This is ludicrous that many people climbing the mountain at once they need to just shut this down nobody needs to climb Mount Everest it's just outrageous if they want to climb something go climb K2 and then say you've really climbed a scary mountain.
why do you care what other people do? are you the dictator?
10:24 shame on this man for not thanking that brave, and caring Sherpa for saving his life. This is the world we live in though. May God bless the Sherpa. And prayers to the ungrateful dude, I pray he repents.
I hope he gets "Adjusted" sometime soon lmao
They aren't expeditioners, they're tourists, leaving trash on the mountain like people at a festival. People who don't respect nature enough to pick up after themselves don't deserve to enjoy it.
Everest- where yuppies go to die
Without climbing Sherpa few climbers would be able to reach the summit. It's a matter of energy expenditure.
Carrying each and every camp on ones back takes its toll.
Then there's the Icefall. Very few climbers could get through the Icefall without the work of the Icefall Doctors that's riddled with crevasses and toppling ice often the size of a multi-story building.
Though I can't see it happening. Sherpa can make a years income from just one expedition.
It is what it is. Since it's an extremely dangerous job and considering that most climbing Sherpa are married and responsible for extended family, the life insurance needs to be raised to an amount that would care for a Sherpas family for life [Way less than one may think. Nepal is seriously impoverished so $50K would be sufficient. ATM I think that Sherpas lives are covered for $5K]
Too bad if that would be an expensive proposition, a Sherpas family should not suffer excessively from the loss of their bread winner.
Everest is a tourist spot now. It has a 1% casualty rate. the Sherpas need to go to the K-2 which kills 1 out of every 3 climbers
There should be a monument 2014 for the Sherpas
I belive there is somewhere
You can't eat monuments. They need better wages
@dianacoles1017 you cant eat wages. they need more pizza
the sherpa don't get 100k per climb....they get a lot less than that since companies take massive cuts.....
Mt. Everest should be respected, and that 'respect' doesn't mean anything if people 'conquer' Everest hundreds of times a year. I can respect the climbers who summited Everest for the first time, but each trip since where Sherpa's people have dedicated significant time and effort to make the task of climbing a mountain with international spiritual significance as easy as possible for the sake of Nepal capitalizing on a significant site to further drive tourism just feels like a slap in the face of the Sherpa and their culture.
they dont need you to decide that for them
I've been to a place that few humans have visited. It was safe and I arrived home unharmed. The Great Barrier Reef.
Thank you for showcasing the Sherpas. They deserve so much more. Climbing a mountain in the cold isn't for me. I don't understand the desire. That's why I live in Florida. ❤
Maybe its time to consider why some individuals want to climb mountains at all and help them cure their mental illness rather than applaud them for doing downright crazy stuff and risking the lives of others in the process as well as their own. The ultimate adrenalin rush is not a good justification
I've never seen this take before, but you are so right. When a person with bipolar disorder does something self-destructive, we usually deduce that they are in a manic state and need intervention. This is the same self-destructive behavior. Sure...it's planned out meticulously whereas mania is not, but it is still self-destructive nonetheless.
at what point does it go from someone hiking has good mental health to climbing a mountain has bad mental health? and who are you to call other people crazy?
I don't understand how you can disrespect Sherpas. If climbing Everest is an achievement in of itself, and these guys do it, with equipment people can't bring or/and a whole ass person on their back, sometimes multiple times in a row to save people.
1:21 looks like the queue line for heaven. Why not just stand at an uncomfortable angle in a walk in freezer while wearing a VR headset?
It's cheaper, too! 😂
Just the scenes of rickety ladders over the crevasses make me say I’ll try something else.
If you go to everest you should legally be required to take more weight in trash out then your entire gear
Exactly. You only get the trash deposit back if you bring out everything you took in and a bit extra
Where did the .2 come from 0:57
Only those who have summit without the help of sherpas have the bragging rights.
If you need a Sherpa to help you summit and carry your load, you do not deserve the credit.
Sherpas need a union
Nepal government should require proof of sufficient experience in order to receive a permit to climb Everest.
Its impossible to save people who sit in the death zone. There is no way
It’s not that. It’s the size of prize. More permits equals more climbers equals less Sherpa available. They aren’t quitting. The permits approved only even count Nepalese side attempts as the permits counted come from Nepal but don’t forget the Tibet northeast ridge was approved for the first time In 2024.
I don’t understand how all these people get recognition for climbing mt Everest but not the sherpas.
I worked with a Sherpa. He had been to the summit several times. His brothers more than 10 each.
He said it like it was nothing special.
It would suck so much to get all the way up there and then have to wait in line
You shouldn’t climb a mountain unless you are totally sure of what you’re getting yourself into it’s common sense
That queue to the summit is living proof that even nature itself can become a dystopia when human activity gets too involved.
Celebrities climbing and crediting their sponsors and fans while ignoring the Sherpas who got them to the summit and back safely is so common I'm actually surprised when they *are* credited.
12:53
100% support the Sherpas
Indeed!