FYI.. Very important vent location. I have many years experience as a semi truck driver with these heaters. Most semi trucks around the world have them. The vents are always close to the floor. Whether you use an electric heater, Mr Heater propane Buddy heater, or any other type in any tent, vehicle, RV set up, all heaters or vents must be as low as possible because heat will rise naturally and push all the cold air down. If you place your heat source as slow as possible it will start warming from the bottom up. If you place it high your bottom area will have a very hard time warming up and you will use more energy.
Thanks for the report! Cool experiment. Glad it worked! I'm considering an Escapade and would want that heater option too. Now go out there and get yourselves some properly insulated jackets with hats and gloves. You made me cold watching you wearing those thin softshell jackets, ball caps, and no gloves! Brrr. : ))
Would it be possible to get an accurate fuel consumption measurement by weighing the bottle and comparing it to the manufacturer's empty weight? Just a thought. :)
The mess you are referring are clay pigeon for target shoot/ skeet shooting, they are fully biodegradable, at least is seems they cleaned the shotgun shells which are the worst but in this case you are misinformed.
We probably camped in same area. If they biodegrade it takes years, they are all over, and sharp. It’s a mess. Go shooting on a range not the wilderness please.
What's your overall verdict with the heater? Do you think it's necessary for teardrops if you're camping in the winter? How often would you say you use it?
Is it necessary? Probably not, but we basically use it every time we go out in the winter. We would probably be fine with a 12v blanket, but it is really nice to be able to move around and sit up and not be freezing. Also, with the dry air, the condensation stays pretty low.
Love the video, and do agree that people need to pick up after themselves. However, those clay pigeons at 2:00, are biodegradable. That’s why they’re used.
Declan Villar Thanks for the info! I don’t do any shooting myself so I had no idea. There were plenty of bullet casings laying around as well which creates a mess
Do you think you could make it quieter if you made a splitter and had 2 heat vents ? I'm looking into making a small camper over this coming winter as a project and this is the heater setup I'd like to use . Thanks for the video !
Great video! Thanks for sharing. I"m researching the propex to put in my Casita because my current furnace has never worked. What kind of camp stove are you cooking the bacon on? :)
@@ProjectBasecamp there is. The ones that are distributed from vancafe are jetted by propex to 11" wc instead of the UK version rated at 37mbar or 14" wc. I imported mine from UK, so its designed for 14wc and regulators that are designed for RV use at 14" wc are hard to come by. Was trying to find someone whose model is the UK version and using 11" wc dual stage regulator
Maybe you got condensation because your suction and your return is in the same area?? A lot of other videos I’ve seen say they don’t get condensation in their tents well rooftop tents
@@ProjectBasecamp I understand that concept, but I would think that you'd fairly quickly deplete the oxygen in a small confined space. You'd definitely have to have a fresh air vent in the cabin (I know that it's a heat exchanger and doesn't use the air from the cabin in the combustion), which will then draw in cold air anyway.
@@ProjectBasecamp I know, I wrote that in my edited comment. I actually have one of these myself, but I haven't mounted it permanently yet. I guess what I was trying to say is that you need some ventilation in a space like that, regardless of if you're heating it or not. That ventilation typically pulls cold air from outside (fan, vent, whatever). So it would make sense to me that if you're going to pull that cold air from the outside, might as well do it through the inlet of the Propex. Maybe I'm completely wrong. For example, a lot of pellet stoves work that way. You pull air from the outside, heat it, and blow it into the space you're heating.
Great video, guys. I see you love the sun. But I must tell you that video taping the sun diminishes greatly the color quality and the appreciation of the scenes you are trying to portray. Less direct sun in the video = better quality video. Just sayin.
FYI.. Very important vent location. I have many years experience as a semi truck driver with these heaters. Most semi trucks around the world have them. The vents are always close to the floor. Whether you use an electric heater, Mr Heater propane Buddy heater, or any other type in any tent, vehicle, RV set up, all heaters or vents must be as low as possible because heat will rise naturally and push all the cold air down. If you place your heat source as slow as possible it will start warming from the bottom up. If you place it high your bottom area will have a very hard time warming up and you will use more energy.
Great video I have a propex in my 5x8 cargo trailer. I put the cotton heat ducts on and it is very quiet now. Made a big difference.
Wish I could find those around here!
@@Couchlover47
Van Cafe sells them great company
vancafe.com/propex-60mm-acoustic-ducting-one-meter-length/
Thanks for the report! Cool experiment. Glad it worked! I'm considering an Escapade and would want that heater option too. Now go out there and get yourselves some properly insulated jackets with hats and gloves. You made me cold watching you wearing those thin softshell jackets, ball caps, and no gloves! Brrr. : ))
Haha thanks Matt! Escapade actually offers a truma propane heater in their new MT-10 model!
Would it be possible to get an accurate fuel consumption measurement by weighing the bottle and comparing it to the manufacturer's empty weight? Just a thought. :)
The mess you are referring are clay pigeon for target shoot/ skeet shooting, they are fully biodegradable, at least is seems they cleaned the shotgun shells which are the worst but in this case you are misinformed.
Tom I already replied to someone else but yes I didn’t know that, and there were also casings on the ground.
We probably camped in same area. If they biodegrade it takes years, they are all over, and sharp. It’s a mess. Go shooting on a range not the wilderness please.
What's your overall verdict with the heater? Do you think it's necessary for teardrops if you're camping in the winter? How often would you say you use it?
Is it necessary? Probably not, but we basically use it every time we go out in the winter. We would probably be fine with a 12v blanket, but it is really nice to be able to move around and sit up and not be freezing. Also, with the dry air, the condensation stays pretty low.
@@ProjectBasecamp thanks for sharing your thoughts. That makes so much sense. I like the idea of being comfortable and not under blankets
I put my Propex heater tail pipe exit under (about 8") my propane tank, As the hot exhaust air rises and it warms the tank.
What a great idea!
Love the video, and do agree that people need to pick up after themselves. However, those clay pigeons at 2:00, are biodegradable. That’s why they’re used.
Declan Villar Thanks for the info! I don’t do any shooting myself so I had no idea. There were plenty of bullet casings laying around as well which creates a mess
Project Basecamp oh yeah, those definitely need to be picked up.
I was just about to post the same thing, it’s unsightly but at least they’re biodegradable.
Do you think you could make it quieter if you made a splitter and had 2 heat vents ? I'm looking into making a small camper over this coming winter as a project and this is the heater setup I'd like to use . Thanks for the video !
Not sure if splitting will help with the noise, but they do make a noise reducing pipe which I may try in the future.
Great video! Thanks for sharing. I"m researching the propex to put in my Casita because my current furnace has never worked. What kind of camp stove are you cooking the bacon on? :)
Jenna Brown Hi Jenna! You can check out our stove here th-cam.com/video/-bOILESJFbo/w-d-xo.html
I ordered a TD with the same heater...would you say you burn through a pound of propane a night on the really cold nights?
Definitely more than that, hard to tell though
Great video! Have you experienced any issue with the furnace because of the altitude? Thanks!
No issues so far, we will be testing more this winter!
I may have missed it in the video, but can you estimate the amount of gas (pounds) and how much battery power it used for that one night?
I don’t have any scientific data on that, but maybe I can get it soon! Plenty of winter camping on deck this year.
They make a silencer hose for it
They sure do, at the time of this video they were all sold out
Don’t the escapades have passive permanent air vents on the sides?
Yes
Any suggestions for best options to order this equipment would be appreciated.
Going through my install now. Do you have the US or UK version? If bought from vancafe, its the US version.
I got it from van cafe, but there is no “us” version. This is why I had to buy the gas line adapter.
@@ProjectBasecamp there is. The ones that are distributed from vancafe are jetted by propex to 11" wc instead of the UK version rated at 37mbar or 14" wc. I imported mine from UK, so its designed for 14wc and regulators that are designed for RV use at 14" wc are hard to come by. Was trying to find someone whose model is the UK version and using 11" wc dual stage regulator
Can you explain the pro/con of the European vs US? Not sure how water column affects use
@@rockoyouthman its the gas pressure. I spoke with propex, they said as long as the regulator doesn't do more than 37mbar, it should be fine.
Maybe you got condensation because your suction and your return is in the same area?? A lot of other videos I’ve seen say they don’t get condensation in their tents well rooftop tents
Thanks for that! I'll be permanently installing the vent soon.
Project Basecamp let me know how it works out with the condensation issue
Wouldn't you want the inlet vent mounted on the outside of the trailer? You probably don't want to recirculate the air from the cabin.
The point is to recirculate the air inside, just like your house furnace does, much more efficient heating already warm air
@@ProjectBasecamp I understand that concept, but I would think that you'd fairly quickly deplete the oxygen in a small confined space. You'd definitely have to have a fresh air vent in the cabin (I know that it's a heat exchanger and doesn't use the air from the cabin in the combustion), which will then draw in cold air anyway.
@@henrikm4657 it’s an internally combusted unit, no oxygen depletion.
@@ProjectBasecamp I know, I wrote that in my edited comment. I actually have one of these myself, but I haven't mounted it permanently yet. I guess what I was trying to say is that you need some ventilation in a space like that, regardless of if you're heating it or not. That ventilation typically pulls cold air from outside (fan, vent, whatever). So it would make sense to me that if you're going to pull that cold air from the outside, might as well do it through the inlet of the Propex. Maybe I'm completely wrong. For example, a lot of pellet stoves work that way. You pull air from the outside, heat it, and blow it into the space you're heating.
@@henrikm4657 we have a wood insert at home and it draws from inside the house. Regardless, we always have a window cracked or the roof vent cracked.
What was the elevation you camped at?
Bryan Austyn Downing Around 9500 feet
Great video, guys. I see you love the sun. But I must tell you that video taping the sun diminishes greatly the color quality and the appreciation of the scenes you are trying to portray. Less direct sun in the video = better quality video. Just sayin.
Harvey Leister Thanks, Harvey. I do know what you are saying and have been working on it, but don’t really have the money for and ND filter.
@@ProjectBasecamp Yes, I understand. Money is the great limiter of abundant creativity. Still a good video.