Lack of Spacing due to Westbrook’s inefficient jumper and lack of role players who can shoot is a big reason why they’re losing. The funny part is, this isn’t even their BIGGEST problem.
The team is old, can't defend, can't shoot, puts out inconsistent effort, had DeAndre Jordan on it, has a man made of glass on it along with an expensive turnover prone pg, etc. It'd take less time to talk about what the team has going for it.
Their biggest problem by far is Lebron!!! Sure he gets hot from 3pt range and can score like crazy in today's NBA. Here is the big problem the media and fanboys will not admitted! The elite teams play great defense and share the ball on offense. Just look how Phoenix, Milwaukee, Memphis, GS, Miami, etc...play! They don't care who has the most points, all they want to do is win!!! So the false narrative "what more can Lebron do?", is a joke! I have a suggestion, how about playing defense and stop chasing individual records and trying to enhance your "legacy"!
Dlo is a great defensive leader for the t-wolves and he's putting up 18 points and 7 assists on a good true shooting percentage. Dlo to Minnesota is a unquestionable success with Minnesota sitting at the 7th seed comfortably. Ant is a better player than Dlo right now but Dlo is definitely a crucial part of the Big 3 in Minnesota.
He didn’t put in consideration how MIN was losing more than they should with KAT and Ant alone. The 3 of them function as a trio. If one of them is not playing, their chances of winning significantly drops.
@@jaybee5315 the twolves have been losing more than they should have for YEARS now. They had a star in KAT and had guys like butler, lavine, and wiggins to help. They should have definitely had more success even before ANT got there. Dlo is doing well this year bow that the twolves are actually playing defense for once. But dlo is far from an elite defender and is still not a consistent all nba level player overall imo
trading ingram, ball, hart, and picks for AD was definitely worth it because you acquired a first team all nba player that was the second best player in the 2020 playoffs (some people think the best). The mistake was trading for westbrook and limiting your capspace and the quality of role players you could sign, so you end up with avery bradley and company. Nothing wrong with them, but there's a reason they're getting payed the minimum on the open market
Everyone acts like we didn't win a championship because of the AD trade, like a ring is worth the next 7 years at least. However, I agree that trading for Westbrook was a mistake.
@@itzwakk335 yeah feels like people quickly forget that the lakers had the best record, two all nba first team members, and a championship 2 years ago. Had they traded for buddy hield + signed better role players that can defend and thrive in their role, they would have been better. Also AD being injured is a major blow. Although he's fallen off, he's still a highly efficient 24 ppg + great defender
@@JonJon-mn7zt the mickey mouse ring argument makes no sense now...ask anyone who uses that phrase what it even implies and you're guaranteed to end that Convo whilst being called a bronsexual...😂
That wolves take saying most of their success comes from ant/towns and implying d'lo was an afterthought is pretty bad. They have a winning record when Edwards isn't playing (7-3) and they went like 6-9 without D'lo this year
Man I agree dlo is a great shooter and scores 18 a game that’s a lot for a run and gun team like the wolves. Marcell aka low critiques too much is a salty lakers fan this year like the rest of us and is backtracking on everything after ONE SHIITY year ONE. Sound like a front runner fan to me. Same shit ppl did after Lebrons first year in La where they sucked too. 10 years of haunting my ass bro we have 2 chips in the last 10 years most teams have ZERO. go be a bandwagon clippers aka clitts fan next year please and watch them choke all over again lmao.
D'Angelo Russell has actually been a very big reason for the Wolves' success this season. He runs the offense well and has improved his defense, and is even a big reason fan atmosphere is more exciting at home games.
Facts. Dlo hasn't been getting injured a whole lot this season besides the occasional day to day issue. When he's playing consistent games, he statistically shoots and plays A Lot better than when he's out many games in a row. I also think the Wolves are building a more competitive culture since they def have the pieces to make a good playoff run.
The Anthony Davis trade was worth it, but the Russell Westbrook trade was not While Russ himself is not the problem (removing him from the roster will not magically fix this team), most of the Lakers problems right now stem from the front office's decisions to trade away their entire depth for a 3rd star whose fit with this team is questionable at best, as well as filling out the rest of the team with veteran minimum players because they literally have zero cap space
That’s the fairest assessment. People that don’t realize or minimize how AD was necessary in winning the chip. Russell Westbrook is a stat padder that is boosted through nothing but triple double stats. It’s good people understand how hard that is to do but what’s harder is winning a chip. It’s like Harden being an all time great scorer, but struggles too hard in the post season. Russell Westbrook stans can’t handle how bad he is because they say it’s slander but it’s genuine fact. It’s funny how he plays like he’s the de facto best player, when he’s the worst out of the big 3. It’s crazy how much mental gymnastics go towards shifting the blame to Lebron not making him better or the coaching staff not building around Russ, instead of saying he’s ass and gonna get you scraping by
@@numa2k147 Exactly bro!!!honestly they didn’t need LeBron James they could’ve waited and and continue letting the young core develop Kawhi Leonard was coming The Next season!!!!They didn’t need LeBron James They had cap space for two max players plus the young core
@@numa2k147 did that strategy work with Paul George though? The Lakers did the "wait and see" approach on him since they didn't want to trade for PG (they wanted to sign him as a free agent), and he felt offended that the Lakers didn't trade for him when they had the chance. PG felt the Lakers didn't want him, so he resigned with OKC, and when Kawhi recruited him to the Clippers, he went there too. If the Lakers did that with AD, he probably would have felt the same way Paul George did
@@xcwilliams7980 I agree with everything you said 100x over, also we're only talking about these dudes because they were drafted by the Lakers. There are plenty of teams who have drafted much better players & either have won nothing with them or traded them away.
D-Lo, BI, and Lonzo were all high profile prospects coming into the league, yet spent years in LA trying to find their footing. All 3 of them have moved on and started playing at borderline All-NBA levels. Kuz, Caruso, KCP, Clarkson, and Randle showed big promise while at LA, but it wasn't until they left that their potential really flourished. Maybe the issue is with LA's development program? The front office isn't good enough to really maximize the potential of their players?
Its all on lebron, he has no interest in working with and developing young players, he's all about instant gratification for HIMSELF. God this guy has ruined teh NBA
@@jahugo6228 You do realize they were prospects right? There's a VERY short list on 18-20 year olds who have been able to handle the pressure of winning every game straight out of college. Hell even LeBron had losing seasons his first couple of years. Again, this points to the LA front office/development team not maximizing the talent they had
The lakers team was so much better last season. Even without Ad, they had one of the best defenses and Lebron had the highest defensive win shares in the league. I just can’t believe they let all that go and a 1st round pick for a guy who everybody said wasn’t gonna fit, just wow! They really came into the season thinking 36 year old Ariza would be their best perimeter defender.
Lakers got scared of another 2nd to 7th slide situation happening. They thought trading for a 3rd star would help limit the blow and help right the ship if LeBron and AD were out at the same time. They should've tried trading for Dame instead of Russ.
The problem with the Lakers was an overcorrection after getting bounced by the Suns. For most of the season the Lakers were a top 3 seed in the west but injuries took their toll on the roster. The problem isnt the AD trade or the DLo trade or letting Randle go the problem is the fact that we panicked and let key players walk following a disappointing (and injury riddled) first round exit. Rather than add pieces and keep the core role players together we swung and missed with WB and let caruso walk for reasons unknown still. The core last season was fine. It was frustrating at times watching Kuz and KCP but overall they were a net positive. I’ll miss the young Lakers core but you can’t say that they would have 100% panned out the way they did minus BI and DLo. Sometimes a change of scenery is needed for a young player. At the end of the day the moves we made leading up to the title were worth it. We put together a title team in a 2-3 year span and they delivered. It sucks AD is injured and the front office is a dumpster fire but it is what it is not everyone can stay on top forever i suppose
This was pretty on point with what ive been saying about the lakers front office and what really separates “buying” from “building”. Paying for all of these stars in attempt to have a cakewalk to a ring is only giving them a few years to be successful before they lose all those stars and have to start from scratch.
lebron wants titles and he wants them quick, that's what this is all about. They could have a fantastic core group of young players with lebron, but no, LBJ is selfish and short sighted. He's a great player, one of the best ever, but he has so many negative incidents, there is no way he belongs to be mention with MJ, Kobe, etc.
The Lakers have never been a patient franchise. Yet they are tied for most championships. Which is their goal. Shoulda coulda woulda is not how the Lakers operate.
I am sorry but if you think DLo isnt a BIG part of the Wolves success, you simply dont watch them He has been huge, especially defensively and while offensively he has been inconsistent, he is still a great playmaker and a really great clutch player that helped them close out MANY games
Lebron’s numbers are coming at a high expense which is defensive effort and proper offensive flow. Lebron often holds the ball while the others stand around. This is bad for the overall offense and team rhythm. He should push the pace more often and move the ball around. Lebron often doesn’t try on defense. When Bron misses a layup, he’ll sink his head instead of running back on defense. Bron doesn’t close out on shooters or rotate defensively. His team plays 4 vs 5 on defense when Bron is on the floor. This is why Lebron’s high scoring output is not converting to wins. When high scoring is coupled with poor defensive effort and bad offensive flow, losing is often the result.
@@bartier861 I disagree. 2009 Lebron made the all NBA Defensive First Team. His defense and motor were different back then. But now, Lebron has to pace himself by holding the ball on offense and playing zero defense. He can still produce the same numbers but the cost is too high. 2009 Lebron would definitely will this team to the Playoffs.
It's crazy that JC is basically the same player he was in his last 2 years with LA. The fit matters, and he's proof. Hell, Kuz is proof - Lonzo is proof
Lonzo not as much, he’s a much better player right now than he was in the past, I don’t think it’s anything about his fit when he’s playing better in every aspect of basketball than he had previously
Clearing cap space and signing LeBron is questionable. He added a lot of value to the team, but shifted their focus from building for the future to winning a championship ASAP. The AD trade was worth it. They went from not making the playoffs to winning the championship. The Westbrook trade was the problem. They should have kept the championship team together. They were on the road to repeating, but injuries happened.
You missed on a very big point tho. Getting LeBron "past his prime" means there's no room for these young kids to develop. Maybe they shouldn't get LBJ in the first place but that doesn't mean they all would pan out in the same way. Yes they don't have any assets and that's really bad, almost like Kobe ending era, they'll fade to oblivion in the next decade but that's the price of championships. Out of all those players I honestly only miss Zo and Caruso cause they're cheap and really good. Who gives a shit about the fraud Julius Randle
Even letting Caruso go is not really a thing since he played his whole career in LA outside this year. Let the man get his money and go his time in LA was a total success like rondo for that year or Howard
@@lakerzrule123 Caruso and kcp brought defense and some scoring of the bench, kinda reliable and cheap so yeah they shouldn't just let him walk. Westbrook really efd up their roster and potential trades and pieces they needed. Going for wing defenders and shooters was always a better option, instead they have another huge contract to deal with this off season and chemistry to develop all over again.
@@denimjeg lol 😂 another lecry fan in denial! No one counts that covid championship! It was lecry idea to trade everyone! They could have gotten derozen! But he wanted to trade everyone away for ad and russ because he thought that all they needed and he even doesn’t count that 2020 covid ymca championship! Stop making excuses!
PG - Ball, Russell SG - Caruso, Hart SF - Ingram, Clarkson PF - Kuzma, Nance Jr. C - Randle Man, that would've been my squad. Most of them played with Kobe. They could have built up together nicely.
The biggest mistake the Lakers did this season was basically exploding a championship roster just to get Westbrook. Remember, Lakers traded away Kuzma, Harrell, KCP & some picks for Westbrook, but Westbrook's contract ate up so much cap space that the Lakers couldn't re-sign Caruso and let him walk. So that Westbrook trade resulted in the Lakers losing Kuzma, Harrell, KCP, *and* Caruso. All of the Lakers free agent signings are on vet minimums, meaning that they literally scraped the bottom of the barrel to fill out their bench, and they gave up on 4 of them (Rondo, Jordan, Bazemore, and Doumbouya) during the season. I've been a Laker fan since I was 5 years old back in 2002, and after Jim Buss passed away, the Lakers front office has been deteriorating steadily. This season is one of the worst moves I've seen them do yet and I actually how that they don't make the play-in tournament so that big chances will be made for the better instead of holding onto false hope.
Trading for AD wasn’t the problem. He was already a superstar, and the Lakers are absolutely horrible at developing talent. The moves we made (and didn’t make) in the 2 offseasons after it-especially this last one-and the health of Anthony Davis being as questionable as Mackelmore’s Grammysre the reasons why we’re fucked. We didn’t develop Kyle then traded him and KCP for Russ which is the worst move in franchise history, we overvalued THT instead of trading him, and most damningly we let Caruso walk for absolutely nothing.
No, the AD trade cost them their young core group, LBJ has no interest in working with and developing young players, he's all about instant success for HIS legacy. One bubble title with a big asterisk wasn't worth it
Imagine a lineup like this PG- Lonzo Ball SG- Deangelo Russell SF- Brandon Ingram PF- Lebron James C- Zubac Bench- Randle, Kuzma, Clarkson They would have been competing for a chip last year and this year for sure if they had just been patient
Great video, as a pels fan I’m appreciative of the dumpster fire the lakers had however lonzo Improved bc of Fred Vinson the shooting guru who changed lonzos shot
Thank you lol I’ve been saying this to anyone who will listen since 2017-18. I wanted to see what those young players could do from the jump and knew we’d get a ring or two and be trash for the next decade once we got Lebron and let everyone go.
They got no shooters, no pg, no decent big men and the bench ain't solid. Lebron handpicked his team and it became a huge problem that he didn't face. AD keeps getting injured like a broken glass and lost his passion after getting a ring. The coach is another huge issue and the GM and management department did the worst job. These are the main problems. Easy and simple.
My lakers have lacked patience over these years and that’s why they find themselves exactly where they are now! We had a great young core of players and most of them are doing their thing around the league
Had Lebron kept those assets and developed them, he would have won 2 championships instead of 1. However, the 2 championships would have come in his later years - around the 2021-22 and 2022-23 seasons. That's the cost of the "win now" mentality - you lose patience and are unable to look ahead in the future.
Honestly my question is what is the lakers development team doing? Their picks over the last decade actually haven’t been terrible, but literally every young player they draft never develop on their team well until they go to a new team… just a lil sus
cuz, they're playing for terrible franchises. it's ez to get 15 points per game in the Wolves, Bullets, etc. But the LAKERS are championship team. They can't get 10 points on a QUALITY team. Look at D'O at GS. EXPOSED!!!!
@@herohour6496 look at Wiggins on the warriors, career year. Ur point is even worse when u consider the lakers aren’t even close to a good team this year and yet their young players on this team are playing horribly as usual. Even in 2019 when the lakers missed the playoffs, they had all great young players, all of whom played worse than they have played after leaving the lakers. Ur point is dumb as hell, the lakers were good for one year, that is not a championship team Oh, and the bullets don’t exist. They are the wizards bro. It’s not the 70s
@@herohour6496 Lakers ain't a championship team when they can't even keep there players and develop them look at other teams who developed all star caliber players
It's because the Lakers aren't known for developing young talent. Been a Laker fan since '02 and literally the last homegrown talent the Lakers produced is Kobe. Ever since then, Lakers don't have the patience to develop. Even during the post-Kobe years in 2016-2018 and they were at the bottom of the league, Lakers' FO were getting frustrated because it's LA, "the city of champions", losing all of those games isn't in their DNA. So instead of developing young talent, they used them as trade bait to bring in superstars and other big names, even if they don't fit with each other. It's tragic if you really think about it.
I remember watching the 2016 draft, a draft analyst said “for the first few years Simmons will look like the better player but 5 years down the line Ingram will be much better then Simmons”. To me, this is one of the greatest draft takes I’ve ever heard.
Dayum, Lebron Lonzo BI Kuzma Brook lopez with JC Caruso and Josh Hart off the bench is way better than even the championship team. Even if they let Randle and Dlo go for assets, so that everyone gets paid, the remaining guys are way too good. And they can go small ball and Big on all 5 positions. The basic problem is team chemistry with all the players being borderline all stars or borderline all nba.
Definition of highsight. No matter how good those young guys are they were never going to be a championship roster. The Lakers with AD won a championship. Mystery Box logic
@Nate B exactly bud, ring is still a ring, LeBron haters just need some narrative to dismiss that championship If Clips or Celtics won in the bubble, no one will say "bubble ring"
A healthy AD is a good #2 at a championship team but that's the thing, he can't stay healthy. That's why that bubble ring isn't as respected as he managed to stay healthy because of a shortened season. I know there are teams that won championships because of injury but AD's a special case because he's always injured even before he got to Lakers and they managed to take advantage of him being healthy in the shortened season for the playoffs which is impossible in a normal season
That is kind of right, for example, in 2010, I was so disappointed they let go of Trevor, I loved Trevor when he was with the Lakers, he was just clutch and a great defender and made winning place, especially against Denver. He could have been Kobe Bryant's Scottie Pippen, obviously not as good, but he could have filled a similar role.
B. Windhorst spoke truth. LAL opted for LBJ thus young developing players are traded for vets, as he doesn’t have the patience or time to mesh with them. LAL is in trouble as they cannot rebuild quickly. They aren’t 1-2 trades away as LBJ, AD & RW won’t justify multiple 1st Rounders…unless they can fool SAC or NYK.
The trades the LAkers made made sense at the time. What I've always had a problem with is their development staff. As a Raps fan, the Raps traded Demar, Pottle, and JV for a title. IF a team thinks they can win a title, they have to make the sacrifice. The difference is that Toronto developed and held on to some of their young guys and now Freddy, Pascal and OG are playing playoff level basketball. They only had one losing season and that was a weird Tampa Bay thing. If this is the only down year for the Lakers, then I think it was worth it, but how do they get draft picks? Who is scouting and finding undrafted talent? More importantly, who is running their development staff?
Fellow Raps fan here. No one seems to excoriate the Lakers for having crappy player development staff. The scouting did their job. As for who is running things in the development staff and for much of the front office...Kurt and Linda Rambis according to SAS, he went off on those two today on ESPN.
@@ChairmanMo They are part of the problem, cuz Linda and Jeanie are close friends and she beeing putting only ppl close to her in power cuz of family bs, it's why ashe has to go no matter what, she's a cancer in this franchise and Dr. Buss must rolling over his grave seeing his daughter fuck up the franchise like that
I believe it was worth it, they won a championship they traded to surround an all time great with talent that suited him with a great co star and supporting cast , and sure they had “10 years of irrelevancy” even tho from 2010-2013 they where a championship caliber team until Kobe tore his Achilles the last 3 of his career where just him playing his career out and then from 2016 to 2018 they where irrelevant but you also have to consider that just because all these young guys developed doesn’t mean they would’ve on the lakers, D’Lo was not going to stay unless they traded the entire team, Kuzma was too stuck in his Hollywood lifestyle to play well there, Lonzo needed a change of scenery especially after not reaching the hype that was unfairly shoved onto him not just by the fans but Magic himself, Brandon and Caruso are the only players that would most likely develop to what they are now on the Lakers
@@jayt214 and yet regressed on offense, it wasn’t a narrative it was the truth, now that he got out of LA and landed on Washington he had a clean start out of that hollywood limelight
That was a title with an asterisk. The bubble scenario allowed AD to heal, and it ensured he would only have to stay healthy for a short time. I don't think it should count as much as a regular title.
I love the take that trading a long term core was worth one winning season but a temporary deal with an aging superstar is somehow worse. People are still thinking entirely about the now and that’s exactly why they’re completely buried. They could have kept their core and had the same odds at 1 winning season at the very least.
Trading for Anthony davis was worth it i dont give a flying f what u say a championship is so hard to accomplish thats what teams strive for the ad trade was worth it but trading Westbrook was not worth it
@Kings Will Soon Rise boo hoo knicks, nets , are a big market franchise and they haven’t won a championship since the 70’s the clippers haven’t won a championship in forever
I think you need to do a updated draft video who were you right about who were you wrong about who surprised you and who disappointed you but keep up the great videos bro big fan💯
You seem to gloss over a very big part of keeping the young core which is how expensive that roster would have been. Keeping Ingram, lonzo, Ingram and Randall would have put the Lakers at the salary cap for a mediocre team. This is the whole point of teams consolidating assets to get a star. All of the moves made an order to free up cap space for the ad trade and the AD trade itself we're definitely worth it. The Lakers want to championship so they automatically won the trade. Look how many teams like the Nets and the Clippers mortgage their future and accomplish nothing. The Lakers didn't really start messing up until after they want a championship. Specifically, the Westbrook trade has been disastrous and will hurt them for years into the future.
exactly. Keeping that young core would've put the Lakers over the cap with a very mediocre squad. Without AD, they don't win a title, so, that trade is an automatic win. The Westbrook trade is really what screwed things up for them
Good content brother, I been playing and watching basketball since i was 9 years old im now 34 , I've never seen your content before but i like how you explain it and bring facts from different perscpectives, You got a new subscriber keep doing a good job and God bless brother !!👏👏
@Kings Will Soon Rise Weren’t going for star power, they overreacted to AD being injured and bron’s fluke injury last year and wanted someone able to carry the load in the regular season which Russ has been able to do in previous years.
No its not If anything, they are the one organization known for getting multiple championships back to back and even created the term "Threepeat" Do some research, kid
I generally agree with the notion of this video. Essentially the Lakers were just too greedy and impatient and it blew up in their face. A thing you missed is their 2020 off-season. While they didn't really do any bad moves during that off-season the fact they got rid of about half the roster that won them a championship is a perfect indication of how their front office operated
They’ve definitely made some mistakes but I don’t want to hear about player’s performing better outside the organization when they still aren’t winning. Except for Lonzo, these players are putting up stats on bad teams
Yes they are, very good, but they are not good at developing that talent. I would have rather stuck with the young guys just for the potential of having a good long-term future. With Lebron, you got three crappy years and one championship which, I believe, if it wasn't for the bubble and the four months off, either Lebron or Davis would have gone injured and because of that, they would not have gotten that championship. They got lucky, success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. The only thing I give the Lakers credit for, is being prepared, when the opportunity presented itself, that opportunity came in the form of a pandemic and four months off, but that's not the point, Lakers were ready. However, you see what happens when they don't have four months off during the season, either one or both of them are always injured because one is made of glass and the other one is old.
it was totally fine to blow everything up for AD and LBJ the problem is this season, getting rid of KCP, Kuz, Caruso, McGee and taking in westbrook, random people like deandre jordan...trevor ariza....like come on what you planning on winning???
Signed a bunch of old 30+ yr old veterans past their prime defensively especially when teams in the west are getting younger. Warriors have a relatively young team outside the big 3 of Steph, Klay, & Draymond. They got Poole, Wiseman, Kuminga, all solid picks 2 of them top 10 picks. The Grizzlies are a very young team and their 2nd in the west.
So many 'good' decisions made by LeGM here. So many young and potential players traded away or walked away so LeBron could get his friends like AD, Melo and Westbrook who by the way are either injury prone, quickly declining or washed up. LeGM just doing LeGM things... Also it was quite nice to hear that pretty much everyone who was either traded away or walked away from LA and from LeBron have been developing and playing better. Funny thing how players get better when they manage to get away from LeBron...
u are acting like they didnt do this when kobe was there. its the lakers ppl expect them to be a championship team and a must see on tv team. they did the malone, gp , howard, nash trades which failed horribly. 2019 was the closest rebuild lakers have and they missed the playoffs, traded AD for the young guys and won 2020 with caruso, kuzma having big roles. Its different from other teams like the Pelicans because theyre a small market team ofc young guys are gonna ball there. dont forget DLo was trash on GSW when he was traded from a young team nets
@@Theterminato2013 well u guessed wrong. Im a mavs fan.. also Im not defending bron here Im just saying the Lakers are always doing these big trades because they want to compete. cmon sir thats all in ur head RENT FREE ? bron? I didnt even mention him. I mentioned kobe because hes the only rookie that I know that started in Lakers that flourished there. after that it was just big trades all around.
Here's why the Patriots the jordan bulls Larry Bird Celtics magic Johnson Lakers the Golden State warriors are so successful they have a philosophy you get two or three Core players and you have pieces around them the pieces are interchangeable that comes with free agent and draft you don't mortgage the future trading draft picks and signing free agents AKA Washington Redskins first year under Dan Schneider who signed every top free agent he could and ended up with a 3 and 13 team the Lakers franchise is about to find out
I don't agree with the Dlo take, he's been great with the wolves, arguably having his best season in his career. He is the reason the Wolves offense has been good this season
So…… there has to be a video on the clippers and nets moves too right? Moves that haven’t resulted in a championship… let alone a conference finals appearance for both.
You just made me laugh hard af bro😂 I’m a nets fan so I understand but I ain’t gon act like the Nets are on the same tier as the lakers historically. Lakers are the championship pedigree NBA team so they gon get the biggest criticisms as well as highest praise. Give and take
The Lakers also traded a top 5 pick for AD. Even though it became De’Andre Hunter… it could’ve been Darius Garland, Jaxson Hayes, or could’ve been traded down and got Tyler Hero
This reminds me of the Rockets right now with Green, Martin Jr., Porter Jr., Christopher, Sengun, Wood (kinda bc he's older). They can all be stars. I liked the young Lakers and was disappointed they split everyone up, but it's not to see that they're becoming stars I'm their own right. Hope this doesn't happen to the rockets tho haha
I think the Lakers has become a place where it's very difficulty to nurture a rookie or young player, it's like expecting a chick to survive in the jungle. There's too much pressure, too many distractions, etc. Even if LeBron and AD has left team, i still think expectation is going to be there even if the Lakers is not a popular team anymore.
I didn't even have to watch a second of this video. The thumbnail pic and title says it all. 100% correct. Can't wait until LeBum is gone. Stat Pad/Turnover King
Getting Lebron was a mistake, the bubble chip was the least satisfying championship in NBA history aside from one of the GSW ones. Now we going to back to where we were when Kobe retired with even less draft picks.
@@skinniesANDtitties nothing to brag about with the bubble championship, none of those series ever got dangerous. we gonna brag about beating an injured Heat team?
@@fernygee89 Congratulations to the best player in the league and at that point a top 5 player in the league for beating the Trailblazers, Jokic and Murray in their 2nd playoff series and the the Rockets with Lebron's favorite player. The Heat weren't even 90% and somehow that series went to 6. If the Lakers beat the Clippers that year or somehow the Nets were healthy, hell if just Bam and Dragic didn't get injured then yea they would deserve all the praise but that championship felt like the Lakers lucked out on getting truly tested and when they finally matched up against a team that looked championship caliber they're 2nd and 3rd best player are hobbled.
@@BEDCORN LOL you’re just trying way to hard to downplay the Lakers winning it that year and that’s fine. The nuggets who were also the 3rd seed and came back 3-1 to beat the clippers? Why even bring up the Clippers when they were the ones that shit the bed in the playoffs. The Lakers did everything they needed to do in order to face them in the WCF. That finals wasn’t as close as people make it seem to be. The first 3 Lakers wins were all pretty decisive victories. And it would’ve ended in 5 if it not for a blown wide open 3 by Danny Green. The next game they handled business and were up by 40 at one point. But I get it you wanna dismiss that championship lol
Lakers could've just fired Vogel, stayed away from Lebron and had a young great unit of PG Lonzo SG Josh Hart, SF Ingram PF Randle C Zubac with Jordan Clarkson, Kyle Kuzma Caruso, KCP and others coming off the bench. Yes they wouldn't have a ring, but this would be a top 5 team in the west right now.
No it’s not because cap space exist 😂😂 lakers cant afford all those players so the lakers wont be a top 5 team in the west and lakers getting bron and ad was good
Great unit? Top 5? Stop it. You’re just pulling something out of your butt, More like 8th seed at BEST. Not a single of them are a superstar. You need a superstar to reach top 5.
The Bucks and the Suns are two good examples of building a team that will span the years to come. And interestingly enough, the Lakers and the Nets are two teams that depended heavily on Star power that are now at the bottom of their respective conferences.
@@kameronjackson9626 won a chip having to play the Trailblazers, Rockets with Russ, the Nuggets and the only championship caliber team they did play was the Heat who weren't even healthy. they make it seem like the Lakers could've easily been a championship team last year and this year just because of Caruso and swapping Westbrook with Derozan or Buddy Hield?? they just believe in Lebron and that's it, they are not looking at this team rationally.
It's extremely difficult to say LA made mistakes letting all that young talent and picks go for Bron, AD who looks to be perpetually injured, and Russ who can't fit on a team that's not his. All the guys traded or let go in FA have gotten better but that could all be attributed to not having the LA pressure and having more freedom on offense. Leaving LA means leaving the absolutely toxic fanbase. (I'm a Lakers fan and see it) Also the pressure to compete for a title EVERY SINGLE YEAR isn't there for the franchises each player went to. Nets, Cavs, Pelicans, Wizards all were/are bottom of the league teams. (Clarkson had one season where there was high expectations for the team, but that was because Bron was still on the team.). DLo, Randle, BI, and Kuz all got handed the reigns on offense and the teams relied on them to score. Both Randle and Kuz had to wait for the #1 option on the team to get injured though. Lakers are a championship or bust franchise, everyone expects them to be good. Less pressure all around and the being the focus of the offense will allow young players to really find themselves within the league and show who they really are.
nah. ingram was getting better on the lakers, his last season there it became evident that would be good. lonzo needed to get outa LA. mentally he wasnt ready to be the face of the lakers. kuzma developed on the lakers and reached his ceiling there. hart also reached his ceiling there.
@@bartier861 he definitely wasnt ready to be the face. But he wasnt ready to just be a quality player for them. It takes a lot mentally to be a laker. To constantly be scrutinised even when doing well. He needed to ger outa LA to a small market team and quietly develep at his own pace
@@beli2431 lol he plays for the bulls last time I checked that’s not a small market and they’re winning, just bc they built the wrong team lebron’s first year as a laker doesn’t mean it’s the young players fault
The bottom line, trading away their young pieces the first time (AD trade) was 1000% worth it because they won a championship. Lonzo, BI, Randle and hart weren’t winning anything for the lakers. The Westbrook trade though, any novice could have seen this was never gonna work. Westbrook is a ball dominate PG who can’t shoot and isn’t very efficient. I don’t know why Lebron was so hell bent on gettin him to the lakers, maybe his ego wanted to say “see i can win with anyone” 🤷🏽♂️ Either way, it’s cool to see the young guys the lakers had do well individually on other teams, but had most still been in LA, at BEST the are a 7 seed team and have 0 chance at really contending.
They have a good core from young players back then it just needed some time to develop, but the organization doesn't have patience so as a result, aged Lakers that are good only on papers but played on court like their careers are done.
The underlooked part of the problem is the management. They’re so eager for big names that they forget to bring a environment for players to flourish. They waste time trying to think than feel what’s actually right for the team progress.
Lakers need to trade Bron and Ad in the offseason in order to get as much draft capital as possible. This will allow them to invest in their future. AD's best days are behind him and Lebron has already made it clear he will do anything it takes in order to play with Bronny, even if it means leaving LA. If you're the Lakers front office, might as well try and get as much as you can for Bron/AD rather than coming up empty handed.
My dad says he's not past Elgin Baylor yet. I cant vouch, but hes certainly not a greater Laker than Jerry West (as a player lmao - West is the goat of GMs)
I also think LeBron not a all time Laker Magic Kareem Kobe Shaq Jerry West George Mikan Elgin Baylor James Worthy Wilt Norm Nixon Michael Cooper Jammal Wilkes Derek Fisher Byron Scott Eddie Jones Nick Van Exel AC Green Rick Fox Gail Goodrich Lamar Odom Pau Gasol Vern Mikkleson and Robert Horry are all better Lakers than LeBron
I agree with the video and have felt the same since they traded for Davis. Look at when Lebron has left teams, they have nothing and have to go through at least 3-4 years to rebuild. A smart GM would have drafted Jason Tatum over Lonzo Ball. Magic had no business in a front office. If they would have drafted Tatum, a good GM would have told Lebron, figure a way to win with Randle, Ingram, Tatum, Kuzma, and the rest of the team. I wouldn't have traded AD for those players.
Watching this video, give this team a competent center and they would be a pretty good all around team. Personally, the post Lebron era is gonna be a train wreck. At least with this team they could have been good for a few years. But alas, the Lakers want stars!
I believe the perfect model for a successful franchise comes from the Warriors. It took them 7 years, yeah.. but their relevance endured for almost 5 years. Management knew how to mix luck they got in the picks with great decisions on who should be kept to be developed into star caliber players. They didn't spend multi millionaire numbers on new contracts (except for KD signing with them). Instead, they made sure they had solid role players that would complement their growing stars while strenghthening the bench and developing a good depth. They just waited for a brief period of reconstruction, but they will be more relevant than the Lakers in the upcoming 5 years, that's for sure.
You are definitely on target with the analysis. As a Lakers fan I was definitely looking forward to building a youthful team that could grow together and challenge Golden State in the west with all of those players developing on the right system and coach. Everything was clicking from draft picks to their developmental players in the G league and they have basically squash all of it to suelit LeBron’s ego. Id trade he and Anthony Davis and grab as many assets as possible because they are heading into a bad situation pretty fast.
All those Lakers talent. The Lakers really got NBA champion in Kuzma and Caruso, All-Stars players in Randle, Russell and Ingram, an elite 6th man player in Clarkson, and Lonzo. Though trading Ingram was a huge regret by the Lakers, trading Lonzo for a championship was definitely worth it and the Lakers really should not miss him.
Honestly on paper it made a lot of sense to move a lot of the young core to get the chip. LBJ’s window was limited and Win Now was the path they chose to take. In the time between Lakers last title before LeBron and then their most recent, plenty of teams came nowhere close to winning it all despite building organically and stably. It’s everything after the chip that just seems so insane. It didn’t even make sense at the time to gun for Westbrook.
@@stpbasss3773 Letting go of the scrappy talent that made the team a team, particularly for Russ, is just indefensible at this point. Caruso was almost like the watershed moment for how poor the decision making was.
that whole AD trade got them a chip during his first season with the Lakers. Following to that season when they acquired Harell & Schroeder the Lakers could’ve repeated if it wasn’t for injuries their team was set. But after trading for Westbrook that was when things went downhill
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It wasn’t necessary to get Russ. And it wasn’t necessary to let Caruso go
It isn’t necessary for cigarettes to exist but yet u.s. companies still make them
@@bartier861 weird flex but ok
@@TheHuskyK9 the lakers are run like a family owned barbershop
@@bartier861
Bruh what are you on about? 😂
Russ > bald eagle
Lack of Spacing due to Westbrook’s inefficient jumper and lack of role players who can shoot is a big reason why they’re losing. The funny part is, this isn’t even their BIGGEST problem.
The team is old, can't defend, can't shoot, puts out inconsistent effort, had DeAndre Jordan on it, has a man made of glass on it along with an expensive turnover prone pg, etc. It'd take less time to talk about what the team has going for it.
@Kings Will Soon Rise vet minimums aren’t the reason for where they are rn
@Kings Will Soon Rise everyone with a brain knew it wasn’t going to ever work, teams like this NEVER work
They had potential if Ad and Lebron (Mostly Ad) could stay healthy. U can see they somewhat working it out now just lack the defense Ad would bring.
Their biggest problem by far is Lebron!!! Sure he gets hot from 3pt range and can score like crazy in today's NBA.
Here is the big problem the media and fanboys will not admitted! The elite teams play great defense and share the ball on offense. Just look how Phoenix, Milwaukee, Memphis, GS, Miami, etc...play! They don't care who has the most points, all they want to do is win!!!
So the false narrative "what more can Lebron do?", is a joke! I have a suggestion, how about playing defense and stop chasing individual records and trying to enhance your "legacy"!
While I largely agree with everything you said. If they just sign Derozan and Caruso instead of Westbrook this might be a totally different team
Did they do that?
i don't think derozan and lebron would be good fit tbh
Derozen and Lebron is a terrible fit
@@kameronjackson9626 not worse than Westbrook
@@mariopb3101 still a second round exit team
Dlo is a great defensive leader for the t-wolves and he's putting up 18 points and 7 assists on a good true shooting percentage. Dlo to Minnesota is a unquestionable success with Minnesota sitting at the 7th seed comfortably. Ant is a better player than Dlo right now but Dlo is definitely a crucial part of the Big 3 in Minnesota.
Thank u I was just about to say this. It’s the only thing I disagree with in this video
He didn’t put in consideration how MIN was losing more than they should with KAT and Ant alone. The 3 of them function as a trio. If one of them is not playing, their chances of winning significantly drops.
none of what u said matters bc lakers are winning the championship vs philly. nba is rigged get your bets in
@@jaybee5315 the twolves have been losing more than they should have for YEARS now. They had a star in KAT and had guys like butler, lavine, and wiggins to help. They should have definitely had more success even before ANT got there. Dlo is doing well this year bow that the twolves are actually playing defense for once. But dlo is far from an elite defender and is still not a consistent all nba level player overall imo
@@MrE_ dlo has been draymond communication-wise at the pg position.
trading ingram, ball, hart, and picks for AD was definitely worth it because you acquired a first team all nba player that was the second best player in the 2020 playoffs (some people think the best). The mistake was trading for westbrook and limiting your capspace and the quality of role players you could sign, so you end up with avery bradley and company. Nothing wrong with them, but there's a reason they're getting payed the minimum on the open market
A person that makes sense
Everyone acts like we didn't win a championship because of the AD trade, like a ring is worth the next 7 years at least. However, I agree that trading for Westbrook was a mistake.
thank you! finally someone that makes sense and isnt just riding dumb narratives
@@josephsolorio748 why tf did they trade danny green😂 it’s funny how the next year he had career highs in 3pm and 3pa
@@itzwakk335 yeah feels like people quickly forget that the lakers had the best record, two all nba first team members, and a championship 2 years ago. Had they traded for buddy hield + signed better role players that can defend and thrive in their role, they would have been better. Also AD being injured is a major blow. Although he's fallen off, he's still a highly efficient 24 ppg + great defender
Not keeping together the 2019/20 roster was another mistake.
💯 they should have just ran it back
I’ve also always thought this! Also, IF they ended up repeating then the whole “Mickey Mouse Ring” argument becomes totally invalid
@@JonJon-mn7zt the mickey mouse ring argument makes no sense now...ask anyone who uses that phrase what it even implies and you're guaranteed to end that Convo whilst being called a bronsexual...😂
They was saying that roster was old as well 😂😂
Facts biggest mistake ever should have ran it back. Lakers won because of their defense not offense
That wolves take saying most of their success comes from ant/towns and implying d'lo was an afterthought is pretty bad. They have a winning record when Edwards isn't playing (7-3) and they went like 6-9 without D'lo this year
Obviously not watching Wolves games and talking out of his ass.
D-Lo is the leader of the defense too. LOW just be reading stats sometimes
D-Lo isn't that guy.
@@PancakeProduct he's still a crucial part to that team
Man I agree dlo is a great shooter and scores 18 a game that’s a lot for a run and gun team like the wolves. Marcell aka low critiques too much is a salty lakers fan this year like the rest of us and is backtracking on everything after ONE SHIITY year ONE. Sound like a front runner fan to me. Same shit ppl did after Lebrons first year in La where they sucked too. 10 years of haunting my ass bro we have 2 chips in the last 10 years most teams have ZERO. go be a bandwagon clippers aka clitts fan next year please and watch them choke all over again lmao.
D'Angelo Russell has actually been a very big reason for the Wolves' success this season. He runs the offense well and has improved his defense, and is even a big reason fan atmosphere is more exciting at home games.
If there's one player that Lakers should try and get back I think it's D'Lo, they need a young guard
Makes me thinking if GSW did not trade him ,would he be starting in all-star game ?? :D
Facts. Dlo hasn't been getting injured a whole lot this season besides the occasional day to day issue. When he's playing consistent games, he statistically shoots and plays A Lot better than when he's out many games in a row. I also think the Wolves are building a more competitive culture since they def have the pieces to make a good playoff run.
Man, I was SAD when they gave D’Lo up for Kyrie 🥲 I wanted them to build around D’Lo so bad
lol improved defense.
Not to mention josh hart, who’s been balling out in Portland
The Anthony Davis trade was worth it, but the Russell Westbrook trade was not
While Russ himself is not the problem (removing him from the roster will not magically fix this team), most of the Lakers problems right now stem from the front office's decisions to trade away their entire depth for a 3rd star whose fit with this team is questionable at best, as well as filling out the rest of the team with veteran minimum players because they literally have zero cap space
That’s the fairest assessment. People that don’t realize or minimize how AD was necessary in winning the chip. Russell Westbrook is a stat padder that is boosted through nothing but triple double stats. It’s good people understand how hard that is to do but what’s harder is winning a chip. It’s like Harden being an all time great scorer, but struggles too hard in the post season. Russell Westbrook stans can’t handle how bad he is because they say it’s slander but it’s genuine fact. It’s funny how he plays like he’s the de facto best player, when he’s the worst out of the big 3. It’s crazy how much mental gymnastics go towards shifting the blame to Lebron not making him better or the coaching staff not building around Russ, instead of saying he’s ass and gonna get you scraping by
Wouldn't AD have become a FA the next season? would waiting 1 more year and keeping the traded pieces not have been worth it?
Lol y'all should have waited for AD's contract to run out. And you all knew he was leaving as well 🤦🏾♂
@@numa2k147 Exactly bro!!!honestly they didn’t need LeBron James they could’ve waited and and continue letting the young core develop Kawhi Leonard was coming The Next season!!!!They didn’t need LeBron James They had cap space for two max players plus the young core
@@numa2k147 did that strategy work with Paul George though? The Lakers did the "wait and see" approach on him since they didn't want to trade for PG (they wanted to sign him as a free agent), and he felt offended that the Lakers didn't trade for him when they had the chance. PG felt the Lakers didn't want him, so he resigned with OKC, and when Kawhi recruited him to the Clippers, he went there too. If the Lakers did that with AD, he probably would have felt the same way Paul George did
thank you for making this video. i have been talking about this young core for a long time. keep up the good work
Lakers luck on picking players with talent is spot on but developing them they could never develop them correctly
That young core has done nothing. I think people underestimate just how tough it is to win one championship
@@xcwilliams7980 I agree with everything you said 100x over, also we're only talking about these dudes because they were drafted by the Lakers. There are plenty of teams who have drafted much better players & either have won nothing with them or traded them away.
Yessss thanks for this video
@@ronin4303 Kobe? Jerry west? Divac? Magic? James worthy? Yeah learn your history bro 😊
D-Lo, BI, and Lonzo were all high profile prospects coming into the league, yet spent years in LA trying to find their footing. All 3 of them have moved on and started playing at borderline All-NBA levels. Kuz, Caruso, KCP, Clarkson, and Randle showed big promise while at LA, but it wasn't until they left that their potential really flourished.
Maybe the issue is with LA's development program? The front office isn't good enough to really maximize the potential of their players?
We'll take the Chip any day.
Or maybe not all players can handle the pressure to win every game? The spotlight shines brighter at Lakers
Its all on lebron, he has no interest in working with and developing young players, he's all about instant gratification for HIMSELF. God this guy has ruined teh NBA
@@jahugo6228 You do realize they were prospects right? There's a VERY short list on 18-20 year olds who have been able to handle the pressure of winning every game straight out of college. Hell even LeBron had losing seasons his first couple of years. Again, this points to the LA front office/development team not maximizing the talent they had
LA might have the best scouting department in the league, but that goes to waste because you're right, they just can't develop their guys fast enough.
The lakers team was so much better last season. Even without Ad, they had one of the best defenses and Lebron had the highest defensive win shares in the league. I just can’t believe they let all that go and a 1st round
pick for a guy who everybody said wasn’t gonna fit, just wow! They really came into the season thinking 36 year old Ariza would be their best perimeter defender.
Lakers got scared of another 2nd to 7th slide situation happening. They thought trading for a 3rd star would help limit the blow and help right the ship if LeBron and AD were out at the same time. They should've tried trading for Dame instead of Russ.
The problem with the Lakers was an overcorrection after getting bounced by the Suns. For most of the season the Lakers were a top 3 seed in the west but injuries took their toll on the roster.
The problem isnt the AD trade or the DLo trade or letting Randle go the problem is the fact that we panicked and let key players walk following a disappointing (and injury riddled) first round exit. Rather than add pieces and keep the core role players together we swung and missed with WB and let caruso walk for reasons unknown still. The core last season was fine. It was frustrating at times watching Kuz and KCP but overall they were a net positive. I’ll miss the young Lakers core but you can’t say that they would have 100% panned out the way they did minus BI and DLo. Sometimes a change of scenery is needed for a young player.
At the end of the day the moves we made leading up to the title were worth it. We put together a title team in a 2-3 year span and they delivered. It sucks AD is injured and the front office is a dumpster fire but it is what it is not everyone can stay on top forever i suppose
This was pretty on point with what ive been saying about the lakers front office and what really separates “buying” from “building”. Paying for all of these stars in attempt to have a cakewalk to a ring is only giving them a few years to be successful before they lose all those stars and have to start from scratch.
lebron wants titles and he wants them quick, that's what this is all about. They could have a fantastic core group of young players with lebron, but no, LBJ is selfish and short sighted. He's a great player, one of the best ever, but he has so many negative incidents, there is no way he belongs to be mention with MJ, Kobe, etc.
Patience is a virtue
The Lakers are not a virtuous franchise anymore.
LBJ's fingerprints are all over this mess
The Lakers have never been a patient franchise. Yet they are tied for most championships. Which is their goal. Shoulda coulda woulda is not how the Lakers operate.
I am sorry but if you think DLo isnt a BIG part of the Wolves success, you simply dont watch them
He has been huge, especially defensively and while offensively he has been inconsistent, he is still a great playmaker and a really great clutch player that helped them close out MANY games
Exactly, ppl underrate dlo
@Kevin Green bro what💀
Lebron’s numbers are coming at a high expense which is defensive effort and proper offensive flow. Lebron often holds the ball while the others stand around. This is bad for the overall offense and team rhythm. He should push the pace more often and move the ball around.
Lebron often doesn’t try on defense. When Bron misses a layup, he’ll sink his head instead of running back on defense. Bron doesn’t close out on shooters or rotate defensively. His team plays 4 vs 5 on defense when Bron is on the floor. This is why Lebron’s high scoring output is not converting to wins.
When high scoring is coupled with poor defensive effort and bad offensive flow, losing is often the result.
Their team just isn’t good, they could’ve had 09’ lebron and it wouldn’t make a diff buddy
@@bartier861 I disagree. 2009 Lebron made the all NBA Defensive First Team. His defense and motor were different back then. But now, Lebron has to pace himself by holding the ball on offense and playing zero defense. He can still produce the same numbers but the cost is too high. 2009 Lebron would definitely will this team to the Playoffs.
Astute observation
@@Oridginale24 you didn’t hear me the first time, their TEAM just isn’t good enough(harden’s voice)
@Kings Will Soon Rise instead of reading the name on the back of the jersey judge them by how their playing(right now not 2-3 years ago)
It's crazy that JC is basically the same player he was in his last 2 years with LA. The fit matters, and he's proof. Hell, Kuz is proof - Lonzo is proof
Lonzo not as much, he’s a much better player right now than he was in the past, I don’t think it’s anything about his fit when he’s playing better in every aspect of basketball than he had previously
youre oversimplifying it, JC is a much better scorer in utah than he was in cleveland/LA
@@SumthingLolzy but nevertheless he's still a reliable scorer off the bench
@@RemyKingKen they made a big mistake drafting him over de'aaron fox though
@@RemyKingKen this is true. His shot was f'd up still until he went to NOLA and worked with Fred Vinson and improved as a shooter.
Any none casual fans that watches the timberwolves games will know how much dlo means to that team just the way he facilitate and leads the defense
Clearing cap space and signing LeBron is questionable. He added a lot of value to the team, but shifted their focus from building for the future to winning a championship ASAP.
The AD trade was worth it. They went from not making the playoffs to winning the championship.
The Westbrook trade was the problem. They should have kept the championship team together. They were on the road to repeating, but injuries happened.
You missed on a very big point tho. Getting LeBron "past his prime" means there's no room for these young kids to develop. Maybe they shouldn't get LBJ in the first place but that doesn't mean they all would pan out in the same way. Yes they don't have any assets and that's really bad, almost like Kobe ending era, they'll fade to oblivion in the next decade but that's the price of championships. Out of all those players I honestly only miss Zo and Caruso cause they're cheap and really good. Who gives a shit about the fraud Julius Randle
Even letting Caruso go is not really a thing since he played his whole career in LA outside this year. Let the man get his money and go his time in LA was a total success like rondo for that year or Howard
@@lakerzrule123 Caruso and kcp brought defense and some scoring of the bench, kinda reliable and cheap so yeah they shouldn't just let him walk. Westbrook really efd up their roster and potential trades and pieces they needed. Going for wing defenders and shooters was always a better option, instead they have another huge contract to deal with this off season and chemistry to develop all over again.
Lebron brought a championship. He’s not the issue. The issue is the moves they’ve made after the championship. Pelinka doesn’t know what he’s doing
You nailed it 👏👌
@@denimjeg lol 😂 another lecry fan in denial! No one counts that covid championship! It was lecry idea to trade everyone! They could have gotten derozen! But he wanted to trade everyone away for ad and russ because he thought that all they needed and he even doesn’t count that 2020 covid ymca championship! Stop making excuses!
PG - Ball, Russell
SG - Caruso, Hart
SF - Ingram, Clarkson
PF - Kuzma, Nance Jr.
C - Randle
Man, that would've been my squad. Most of them played with Kobe. They could have built up together nicely.
It is a good thing Kobe is not around to see what trainwreck the Lakers have become. Goddamn, him and Shaq would have gone postal on Jeannie Buss.
The biggest mistake the Lakers did this season was basically exploding a championship roster just to get Westbrook. Remember, Lakers traded away Kuzma, Harrell, KCP & some picks for Westbrook, but Westbrook's contract ate up so much cap space that the Lakers couldn't re-sign Caruso and let him walk. So that Westbrook trade resulted in the Lakers losing Kuzma, Harrell, KCP, *and* Caruso. All of the Lakers free agent signings are on vet minimums, meaning that they literally scraped the bottom of the barrel to fill out their bench, and they gave up on 4 of them (Rondo, Jordan, Bazemore, and Doumbouya) during the season.
I've been a Laker fan since I was 5 years old back in 2002, and after Jim Buss passed away, the Lakers front office has been deteriorating steadily. This season is one of the worst moves I've seen them do yet and I actually how that they don't make the play-in tournament so that big chances will be made for the better instead of holding onto false hope.
Trading for AD wasn’t the problem. He was already a superstar, and the Lakers are absolutely horrible at developing talent. The moves we made (and didn’t make) in the 2 offseasons after it-especially this last one-and the health of Anthony Davis being as questionable as Mackelmore’s Grammysre the reasons why we’re fucked. We didn’t develop Kyle then traded him and KCP for Russ which is the worst move in franchise history, we overvalued THT instead of trading him, and most damningly we let Caruso walk for absolutely nothing.
No, the AD trade cost them their young core group, LBJ has no interest in working with and developing young players, he's all about instant success for HIS legacy. One bubble title with a big asterisk wasn't worth it
Imagine a lineup like this
PG- Lonzo Ball
SG- Deangelo Russell
SF- Brandon Ingram
PF- Lebron James
C- Zubac
Bench- Randle, Kuzma, Clarkson
They would have been competing for a chip last year and this year for sure if they had just been patient
Great video, as a pels fan I’m appreciative of the dumpster fire the lakers had however lonzo Improved bc of Fred Vinson the shooting guru who changed lonzos shot
LBJ's fingerprints are all over this mess
Thank you lol I’ve been saying this to anyone who will listen since 2017-18. I wanted to see what those young players could do from the jump and knew we’d get a ring or two and be trash for the next decade once we got Lebron and let everyone go.
I would have preferred the Lakers have kept the young players and not traded for Davis.
@@atlanta1290 True but I think keeping those young guys, possibly a different free agent choice and I think we’re in a different position
They got no shooters, no pg, no decent big men and the bench ain't solid. Lebron handpicked his team and it became a huge problem that he didn't face. AD keeps getting injured like a broken glass and lost his passion after getting a ring. The coach is another huge issue and the GM and management department did the worst job. These are the main problems. Easy and simple.
My lakers have lacked patience over these years and that’s why they find themselves exactly where they are now! We had a great young core of players and most of them are doing their thing around the league
LBJ's fingerprints are all over this mess
Had Lebron kept those assets and developed them, he would have won 2 championships instead of 1. However, the 2 championships would have come in his later years - around the 2021-22 and 2022-23 seasons. That's the cost of the "win now" mentality - you lose patience and are unable to look ahead in the future.
Honestly my question is what is the lakers development team doing? Their picks over the last decade actually haven’t been terrible, but literally every young player they draft never develop on their team well until they go to a new team… just a lil sus
cuz, they're playing for terrible franchises. it's ez to get 15 points per game in the Wolves, Bullets, etc. But the LAKERS are championship team. They can't get 10 points on a QUALITY team. Look at D'O at GS. EXPOSED!!!!
@@herohour6496 look at Wiggins on the warriors, career year. Ur point is even worse when u consider the lakers aren’t even close to a good team this year and yet their young players on this team are playing horribly as usual. Even in 2019 when the lakers missed the playoffs, they had all great young players, all of whom played worse than they have played after leaving the lakers. Ur point is dumb as hell, the lakers were good for one year, that is not a championship team
Oh, and the bullets don’t exist. They are the wizards bro. It’s not the 70s
@@herohour6496 Lakers ain't a championship team when they can't even keep there players and develop them look at other teams who developed all star caliber players
@@bambam2514 What teams? Name them. Have they "won" a championship? No? Then ok. No championship ring, no use in any argument
It's because the Lakers aren't known for developing young talent. Been a Laker fan since '02 and literally the last homegrown talent the Lakers produced is Kobe. Ever since then, Lakers don't have the patience to develop. Even during the post-Kobe years in 2016-2018 and they were at the bottom of the league, Lakers' FO were getting frustrated because it's LA, "the city of champions", losing all of those games isn't in their DNA. So instead of developing young talent, they used them as trade bait to bring in superstars and other big names, even if they don't fit with each other. It's tragic if you really think about it.
I remember watching the 2016 draft, a draft analyst said “for the first few years Simmons will look like the better player but 5 years down the line Ingram will be much better then Simmons”. To me, this is one of the greatest draft takes I’ve ever heard.
Fr BI is that guy but if he stayed in LA we would never know.
Dayum, Lebron Lonzo BI Kuzma Brook lopez with JC Caruso and Josh Hart off the bench is way better than even the championship team.
Even if they let Randle and Dlo go for assets, so that everyone gets paid, the remaining guys are way too good. And they can go small ball and Big on all 5 positions.
The basic problem is team chemistry with all the players being borderline all stars or borderline all nba.
@@shadow_realm47 wrost take I've ever seen 1. Lebron doesn't play with young players 2. This team you talking about has no shooting
Definition of highsight. No matter how good those young guys are they were never going to be a championship roster. The Lakers with AD won a championship. Mystery Box logic
Bubble ring
i think keeping lonzo instead of kuz would've been better for us. literally the only thing i would change
@Nate B exactly bud, ring is still a ring, LeBron haters just need some narrative to dismiss that championship
If Clips or Celtics won in the bubble, no one will say "bubble ring"
@@AggravatedMan365
You mean the NBA bubble where every player PLAYED THEIR BEST with no distractions.
Stop downplaying the bubble.
A healthy AD is a good #2 at a championship team but that's the thing, he can't stay healthy. That's why that bubble ring isn't as respected as he managed to stay healthy because of a shortened season. I know there are teams that won championships because of injury but AD's a special case because he's always injured even before he got to Lakers and they managed to take advantage of him being healthy in the shortened season for the playoffs which is impossible in a normal season
tbh it's perfectly fair to reach back 5 years and include Randle and DLo since the we're talking about the next 5 years.
That’s the gm who signed deng and mozgov right?
That is kind of right, for example, in 2010, I was so disappointed they let go of Trevor, I loved Trevor when he was with the Lakers, he was just clutch and a great defender and made winning place, especially against Denver. He could have been Kobe Bryant's Scottie Pippen, obviously not as good, but he could have filled a similar role.
B. Windhorst spoke truth. LAL opted for LBJ thus young developing players are traded for vets, as he doesn’t have the patience or time to mesh with them. LAL is in trouble as they cannot rebuild quickly. They aren’t 1-2 trades away as LBJ, AD & RW won’t justify multiple 1st Rounders…unless they can fool SAC or NYK.
The trades the LAkers made made sense at the time. What I've always had a problem with is their development staff. As a Raps fan, the Raps traded Demar, Pottle, and JV for a title. IF a team thinks they can win a title, they have to make the sacrifice. The difference is that Toronto developed and held on to some of their young guys and now Freddy, Pascal and OG are playing playoff level basketball. They only had one losing season and that was a weird Tampa Bay thing.
If this is the only down year for the Lakers, then I think it was worth it, but how do they get draft picks? Who is scouting and finding undrafted talent? More importantly, who is running their development staff?
Raptors are just too tuff... They kept young pieces and made the right moves for depth, good contracts, good development. Pelinka is just incompetent
@@mariopb3101 + the fandom keep devaluing the teams assets talking too shit
No, they didn't.
Fellow Raps fan here. No one seems to excoriate the Lakers for having crappy player development staff. The scouting did their job. As for who is running things in the development staff and for much of the front office...Kurt and Linda Rambis according to SAS, he went off on those two today on ESPN.
@@ChairmanMo They are part of the problem, cuz Linda and Jeanie are close friends and she beeing putting only ppl close to her in power cuz of family bs, it's why ashe has to go no matter what, she's a cancer in this franchise and Dr. Buss must rolling over his grave seeing his daughter fuck up the franchise like that
Also former Laker centers that could help substantially in rim protection and rebounding Zubac, McGee, Brooke Lopez, Drummond
I believe it was worth it, they won a championship they traded to surround an all time great with talent that suited him with a great co star and supporting cast , and sure they had “10 years of irrelevancy” even tho from 2010-2013 they where a championship caliber team until Kobe tore his Achilles the last 3 of his career where just him playing his career out and then from 2016 to 2018 they where irrelevant but you also have to consider that just because all these young guys developed doesn’t mean they would’ve on the lakers, D’Lo was not going to stay unless they traded the entire team, Kuzma was too stuck in his Hollywood lifestyle to play well there, Lonzo needed a change of scenery especially after not reaching the hype that was unfairly shoved onto him not just by the fans but Magic himself, Brandon and Caruso are the only players that would most likely develop to what they are now on the Lakers
If he was so stuck in the Hollywood lifestyle he wouldn't have improved his defense and rebounding which he did that narrative is shit
@@jayt214 and yet regressed on offense, it wasn’t a narrative it was the truth, now that he got out of LA and landed on Washington he had a clean start out of that hollywood limelight
That was a title with an asterisk. The bubble scenario allowed AD to heal, and it ensured he would only have to stay healthy for a short time. I don't think it should count as much as a regular title.
@@Chasstful nah the only titles with asterisks is the warriors 2017-2018 championships
I love the take that trading a long term core was worth one winning season but a temporary deal with an aging superstar is somehow worse. People are still thinking entirely about the now and that’s exactly why they’re completely buried. They could have kept their core and had the same odds at 1 winning season at the very least.
Trading for Anthony davis was worth it i dont give a flying f what u say a championship is so hard to accomplish thats what teams strive for the ad trade was worth it but trading Westbrook was not worth it
@Kings Will Soon Rise boo hoo knicks, nets , are a big market franchise and they haven’t won a championship since the 70’s the clippers haven’t won a championship in forever
@Kings Will Soon Rise that’s what he said can’t you comprehend
@Kings Will Soon Rise u right hell I hate the Lakers but if I was in the NBA I'll wanna go to la 2 , Lakers don't grind for theres
I think you need to do a updated draft video who were you right about who were you wrong about who surprised you and who disappointed you but keep up the great videos bro big fan💯
You seem to gloss over a very big part of keeping the young core which is how expensive that roster would have been. Keeping Ingram, lonzo, Ingram and Randall would have put the Lakers at the salary cap for a mediocre team. This is the whole point of teams consolidating assets to get a star.
All of the moves made an order to free up cap space for the ad trade and the AD trade itself we're definitely worth it. The Lakers want to championship so they automatically won the trade. Look how many teams like the Nets and the Clippers mortgage their future and accomplish nothing.
The Lakers didn't really start messing up until after they want a championship. Specifically, the Westbrook trade has been disastrous and will hurt them for years into the future.
exactly. Keeping that young core would've put the Lakers over the cap with a very mediocre squad. Without AD, they don't win a title, so, that trade is an automatic win. The Westbrook trade is really what screwed things up for them
Good content brother, I been playing and watching basketball since i was 9 years old im now 34 , I've never seen your content before but i like how you explain it and bring facts from different perscpectives, You got a new subscriber keep doing a good job and God bless brother !!👏👏
The Lakers had plenty of home grown stars in the making. They clearly don't know how to develop young players though.
I'm not even a Lakers fan, but when I saw the Westbrook trade and what they gave up to get him, I was shaking my head.
The lakers really went all in for a player that doesn’t even fit with their two stars. That’s hilarious.
They didn’t really go ALL in essentially they traded kuz, kcp, trezz and the 21st pick for russ
@Kings Will Soon Rise Weren’t going for star power, they overreacted to AD being injured and bron’s fluke injury last year and wanted someone able to carry the load in the regular season which Russ has been able to do in previous years.
@Kings Will Soon Rise Not anymore smh
@Kings Will Soon Rise Russ is that guy on a different team
You gotta give credit to the New Orleans coaching and front office staff. They developed Lonzo and Ingram immediately
It’s tradition for the Lakers to ruin their roster after winning a title.
No its not
If anything, they are the one organization known for getting multiple championships back to back and even created the term "Threepeat"
Do some research, kid
@@BaithNa I guess the 90s bulls never existed
@@JJuiicceee neither did the 60’s celtics who won 8 straight
That’s cap they’ve always won 2 in a row or 3 outside of 2020. Mavs ruined their roster after their ring that was the definition of one and done
@@lakerzrule123 jerry west and wilt only ever won one
I generally agree with the notion of this video.
Essentially the Lakers were just too greedy and impatient and it blew up in their face. A thing you missed is their 2020 off-season. While they didn't really do any bad moves during that off-season the fact they got rid of about half the roster that won them a championship is a perfect indication of how their front office operated
They’ve definitely made some mistakes but I don’t want to hear about player’s performing better outside the organization when they still aren’t winning. Except for Lonzo, these players are putting up stats on bad teams
Just like Lebum.
Great video, been wanting to take a look at this. Many thanks.
Let’s look at the bright side here… Lakers are really really good at scouting talent and drafting 😅
and the pelicans apparently know that.
Yes they are, very good, but they are not good at developing that talent. I would have rather stuck with the young guys just for the potential of having a good long-term future. With Lebron, you got three crappy years and one championship which, I believe, if it wasn't for the bubble and the four months off, either Lebron or Davis would have gone injured and because of that, they would not have gotten that championship. They got lucky, success is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. The only thing I give the Lakers credit for, is being prepared, when the opportunity presented itself, that opportunity came in the form of a pandemic and four months off, but that's not the point, Lakers were ready. However, you see what happens when they don't have four months off during the season, either one or both of them are always injured because one is made of glass and the other one is old.
it was totally fine to blow everything up for AD and LBJ
the problem is this season, getting rid of KCP, Kuz, Caruso, McGee
and taking in westbrook, random people like deandre jordan...trevor ariza....like come on what you planning on winning???
Signed a bunch of old 30+ yr old veterans past their prime defensively especially when teams in the west are getting younger. Warriors have a relatively young team outside the big 3 of Steph, Klay, & Draymond. They got Poole, Wiseman, Kuminga, all solid picks 2 of them top 10 picks. The Grizzlies are a very young team and their 2nd in the west.
So many 'good' decisions made by LeGM here. So many young and potential players traded away or walked away so LeBron could get his friends like AD, Melo and Westbrook who by the way are either injury prone, quickly declining or washed up. LeGM just doing LeGM things...
Also it was quite nice to hear that pretty much everyone who was either traded away or walked away from LA and from LeBron have been developing and playing better. Funny thing how players get better when they manage to get away from LeBron...
u are acting like they didnt do this when kobe was there. its the lakers ppl expect them to be a championship team and a must see on tv team. they did the malone, gp , howard, nash trades which failed horribly. 2019 was the closest rebuild lakers have and they missed the playoffs, traded AD for the young guys and won 2020 with caruso, kuzma having big roles. Its different from other teams like the Pelicans because theyre a small market team ofc young guys are gonna ball there. dont forget DLo was trash on GSW when he was traded from a young team nets
@@Pichii21 Let me guess? You’re another one of those Bron Stan’s that think Lebron’s a better Laker all time than Kobe? LMAO 😂🤣🤡😎
@@Theterminato2013 well u guessed wrong. Im a mavs fan.. also Im not defending bron here Im just saying the Lakers are always doing these big trades because they want to compete. cmon sir thats all in ur head RENT FREE ? bron? I didnt even mention him. I mentioned kobe because hes the only rookie that I know that started in Lakers that flourished there. after that it was just big trades all around.
LBJ's fingerprints are all over this mess
@@Chasstful Yup, front, back and side to side 😂
Clarkson’s shooting form also improved a ton in Utah
Right now theyve only runed half a decade - they can get it back if they trade Bron and AD. They'll lose even more if they keep throwing away picks
Or just properly build around bron and AD like they did the first time
I think they only have their 2027 first for now right? 🤔 cuz 2027 is a looonnggg time from now 😬
@@JonJon-mn7zt and 2029 pick(after the season is over)
Don’t forget Zubac, Bryant, and Hart.
Agree. Has to be a blend between player development and acquiring stars/vets.
Here's why the Patriots the jordan bulls Larry Bird Celtics magic Johnson Lakers the Golden State warriors are so successful they have a philosophy you get two or three Core players and you have pieces around them the pieces are interchangeable that comes with free agent and draft you don't mortgage the future trading draft picks and signing free agents AKA Washington Redskins first year under Dan Schneider who signed every top free agent he could and ended up with a 3 and 13 team the Lakers franchise is about to find out
You forgot the Spurs.
Duncan, Parker, Manu, Pop.
5 titles.
Yessir!
I don't agree with the Dlo take, he's been great with the wolves, arguably having his best season in his career. He is the reason the Wolves offense has been good this season
They fucked up an all star a close all star and a really good point guard like damn
@Kings Will Soon Rise my ass to lazy to edit keep it pushing nigga
When the Cavs had lebron we went way over the cap , paid huge penalties just to surround lebron with the best we could
So…… there has to be a video on the clippers and nets moves too right? Moves that haven’t resulted in a championship… let alone a conference finals appearance for both.
You just made me laugh hard af bro😂 I’m a nets fan so I understand but I ain’t gon act like the Nets are on the same tier as the lakers historically. Lakers are the championship pedigree NBA team so they gon get the biggest criticisms as well as highest praise. Give and take
@@RecluseSports Why don't people talk that way about the Celtics they have the same amount of chips?
@@stpbasss3773 They got most of their rings when there were 10 teams in the NBA…
@@RecluseSports true
Clippers made the conference finals last season
The Lakers also traded a top 5 pick for AD. Even though it became De’Andre Hunter… it could’ve been Darius Garland, Jaxson Hayes, or could’ve been traded down and got Tyler Hero
AD won them a chip.
@@r.g.1166 Mickey Mouse 🐭
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The Lakers are in shambles and I’m loving it 🥰
Me too
😂😂
This reminds me of the Rockets right now with Green, Martin Jr., Porter Jr., Christopher, Sengun, Wood (kinda bc he's older). They can all be stars.
I liked the young Lakers and was disappointed they split everyone up, but it's not to see that they're becoming stars I'm their own right. Hope this doesn't happen to the rockets tho haha
I think the Lakers has become a place where it's very difficulty to nurture a rookie or young player, it's like expecting a chick to survive in the jungle. There's too much pressure, too many distractions, etc.
Even if LeBron and AD has left team, i still think expectation is going to be there even if the Lakers is not a popular team anymore.
I didn't even have to watch a second of this video. The thumbnail pic and title says it all. 100% correct. Can't wait until LeBum is gone. Stat Pad/Turnover King
that's what happens when you get LeBron trade all your future players,picks than he dips and the team becomes trash
Or just be smart ab every decision you make to ensure a title run and don’t ruin your future
Yup same thing happened with the Cavs it’s like gms are scared to tell Bron no this why I fuck with Pat Riley he wasn’t taking Lebrons shit 😂
@@ChrisTookFlight or just do your job
Great video ! You should do a video on the magic btw
Getting Lebron was a mistake, the bubble chip was the least satisfying championship in NBA history aside from one of the GSW ones. Now we going to back to where we were when Kobe retired with even less draft picks.
nah, you just a bron hater
@@skinniesANDtitties nothing to brag about with the bubble championship, none of those series ever got dangerous. we gonna brag about beating an injured Heat team?
@@BEDCORN The fact they gentlemen swept every team in the west is nothing to brag about?
@@fernygee89 Congratulations to the best player in the league and at that point a top 5 player in the league for beating the Trailblazers, Jokic and Murray in their 2nd playoff series and the the Rockets with Lebron's favorite player. The Heat weren't even 90% and somehow that series went to 6. If the Lakers beat the Clippers that year or somehow the Nets were healthy, hell if just Bam and Dragic didn't get injured then yea they would deserve all the praise but that championship felt like the Lakers lucked out on getting truly tested and when they finally matched up against a team that looked championship caliber they're 2nd and 3rd best player are hobbled.
@@BEDCORN LOL you’re just trying way to hard to downplay the Lakers winning it that year and that’s fine. The nuggets who were also the 3rd seed and came back 3-1 to beat the clippers? Why even bring up the Clippers when they were the ones that shit the bed in the playoffs. The Lakers did everything they needed to do in order to face them in the WCF. That finals wasn’t as close as people make it seem to be. The first 3 Lakers wins were all pretty decisive victories. And it would’ve ended in 5 if it not for a blown wide open 3 by Danny Green. The next game they handled business and were up by 40 at one point. But I get it you wanna dismiss that championship lol
Yo, you’re a helluva writer, bro! Great vid. New sub.
Lakers could've just fired Vogel, stayed away from Lebron and had a young great unit of PG Lonzo SG Josh Hart, SF Ingram PF Randle C Zubac with Jordan Clarkson, Kyle Kuzma Caruso, KCP and others coming off the bench. Yes they wouldn't have a ring, but this would be a top 5 team in the west right now.
No it’s not because cap space exist 😂😂 lakers cant afford all those players so the lakers wont be a top 5 team in the west and lakers getting bron and ad was good
Great unit? Top 5? Stop it. You’re just pulling something out of your butt,
More like 8th seed at BEST. Not a single of them are a superstar. You need a superstar to reach top 5.
why the hell would you give up a championship to be a top 5 team in the west?
@@robert2690 lol BI would be way better with roster like this spacing.
That's a second round exit at best
The Bucks and the Suns are two good examples of building a team that will span the years to come. And interestingly enough, the Lakers and the Nets are two teams that depended heavily on Star power that are now at the bottom of their respective conferences.
Warriors are a better example, mix of old heads and young stars all drafted there
@@tommyharper126 Yea, that’s definitely another good example.
A chip is a chip 🤷🏾 its just getting russ that fucked everything up 😞
Blaming the team being ass all in Westbrook is crazy
@@kameronjackson9626 won a chip having to play the Trailblazers, Rockets with Russ, the Nuggets and the only championship caliber team they did play was the Heat who weren't even healthy. they make it seem like the Lakers could've easily been a championship team last year and this year just because of Caruso and swapping Westbrook with Derozan or Buddy Hield?? they just believe in Lebron and that's it, they are not looking at this team rationally.
@@BEDCORN fax’s
It's extremely difficult to say LA made mistakes letting all that young talent and picks go for Bron, AD who looks to be perpetually injured, and Russ who can't fit on a team that's not his. All the guys traded or let go in FA have gotten better but that could all be attributed to not having the LA pressure and having more freedom on offense. Leaving LA means leaving the absolutely toxic fanbase. (I'm a Lakers fan and see it) Also the pressure to compete for a title EVERY SINGLE YEAR isn't there for the franchises each player went to. Nets, Cavs, Pelicans, Wizards all were/are bottom of the league teams. (Clarkson had one season where there was high expectations for the team, but that was because Bron was still on the team.). DLo, Randle, BI, and Kuz all got handed the reigns on offense and the teams relied on them to score. Both Randle and Kuz had to wait for the #1 option on the team to get injured though. Lakers are a championship or bust franchise, everyone expects them to be good. Less pressure all around and the being the focus of the offense will allow young players to really find themselves within the league and show who they really are.
Lakers can't develop young players that's why B.I, zo, and others are doing so good right now
It’s called getting better thru time
nah. ingram was getting better on the lakers, his last season there it became evident that would be good. lonzo needed to get outa LA. mentally he wasnt ready to be the face of the lakers. kuzma developed on the lakers and reached his ceiling there. hart also reached his ceiling there.
@@beli2431 lonzo didn’t need to be the “face” of the lakers I don’t even think he gave a fuck ab that it’s called improving thru time and winning
@@bartier861 he definitely wasnt ready to be the face. But he wasnt ready to just be a quality player for them. It takes a lot mentally to be a laker. To constantly be scrutinised even when doing well. He needed to ger outa LA to a small market team and quietly develep at his own pace
@@beli2431 lol he plays for the bulls last time I checked that’s not a small market and they’re winning, just bc they built the wrong team lebron’s first year as a laker doesn’t mean it’s the young players fault
The bottom line, trading away their young pieces the first time (AD trade) was 1000% worth it because they won a championship. Lonzo, BI, Randle and hart weren’t winning anything for the lakers.
The Westbrook trade though, any novice could have seen this was never gonna work. Westbrook is a ball dominate PG who can’t shoot and isn’t very efficient. I don’t know why Lebron was so hell bent on gettin him to the lakers, maybe his ego wanted to say “see i can win with anyone” 🤷🏽♂️
Either way, it’s cool to see the young guys the lakers had do well individually on other teams, but had most still been in LA, at BEST the are a 7 seed team and have 0 chance at really contending.
Doesn’t matter the Lakers are fucked any way that’s what happens with Lebron lead teams nothing new 🤷🏽♂️
They have a good core from young players back then it just needed some time to develop, but the organization doesn't have patience so as a result, aged Lakers that are good only on papers but played on court like their careers are done.
Zubac nance and josh hart good players
The underlooked part of the problem is the management. They’re so eager for big names that they forget to bring a environment for players to flourish. They waste time trying to think than feel what’s actually right for the team progress.
Lakers need to trade Bron and Ad in the offseason in order to get as much draft capital as possible. This will allow them to invest in their future. AD's best days are behind him and Lebron has already made it clear he will do anything it takes in order to play with Bronny, even if it means leaving LA. If you're the Lakers front office, might as well try and get as much as you can for Bron/AD rather than coming up empty handed.
None of the players that got traded would of developed as good as they are now while all playing on the lakers
Lebron James is not a Lakers all-time great. Change my mind.
My dad says he's not past Elgin Baylor yet. I cant vouch, but hes certainly not a greater Laker than Jerry West (as a player lmao - West is the goat of GMs)
Lebron is an all time great, just not a Lakers all time great.
The all time great Lakes won multiple championships.
I also think LeBron not a all time Laker Magic Kareem Kobe Shaq Jerry West George Mikan Elgin Baylor James Worthy Wilt Norm Nixon Michael Cooper Jammal Wilkes Derek Fisher Byron Scott Eddie Jones Nick Van Exel AC Green Rick Fox Gail Goodrich Lamar Odom Pau Gasol Vern Mikkleson and Robert Horry are all better Lakers than LeBron
He’s like top 10 but i would still have someone like Pau Gasol over him
Jeez...you might have something there
I agree with the video and have felt the same since they traded for Davis. Look at when Lebron has left teams, they have nothing and have to go through at least 3-4 years to rebuild. A smart GM would have drafted Jason Tatum over Lonzo Ball. Magic had no business in a front office. If they would have drafted Tatum, a good GM would have told Lebron, figure a way to win with Randle, Ingram, Tatum, Kuzma, and the rest of the team. I wouldn't have traded AD for those players.
Watching this video, give this team a competent center and they would be a pretty good all around team. Personally, the post Lebron era is gonna be a train wreck. At least with this team they could have been good for a few years. But alas, the Lakers want stars!
Ooo I love the sound of that
I believe the perfect model for a successful franchise comes from the Warriors. It took them 7 years, yeah.. but their relevance endured for almost 5 years. Management knew how to mix luck they got in the picks with great decisions on who should be kept to be developed into star caliber players. They didn't spend multi millionaire numbers on new contracts (except for KD signing with them). Instead, they made sure they had solid role players that would complement their growing stars while strenghthening the bench and developing a good depth. They just waited for a brief period of reconstruction, but they will be more relevant than the Lakers in the upcoming 5 years, that's for sure.
Caruso needed his own segment. He was HUGE for the Lakers and is a really good team player.
You are definitely on target with the analysis. As a Lakers fan I was definitely looking forward to building a youthful team that could grow together and challenge Golden State in the west with all of those players developing on the right system and coach. Everything was clicking from draft picks to their developmental players in the G league and they have basically squash all of it to suelit LeBron’s ego. Id trade he and Anthony Davis and grab as many assets as possible because they are heading into a bad situation pretty fast.
To say Westbrick is a disappointment is an understatement.
Zubac been a solid center for years now…. Magic hasnt gotten enough blame
Karma = Randle, Clarkson, Ingram, Kuzma - all beasts now.
All those Lakers talent. The Lakers really got NBA champion in Kuzma and Caruso, All-Stars players in Randle, Russell and Ingram, an elite 6th man player in Clarkson, and Lonzo. Though trading Ingram was a huge regret by the Lakers, trading Lonzo for a championship was definitely worth it and the Lakers really should not miss him.
Honestly on paper it made a lot of sense to move a lot of the young core to get the chip. LBJ’s window was limited and Win Now was the path they chose to take. In the time between Lakers last title before LeBron and then their most recent, plenty of teams came nowhere close to winning it all despite building organically and stably.
It’s everything after the chip that just seems so insane. It didn’t even make sense at the time to gun for Westbrook.
They were absolutely stupid to let go of most the players from that 2020 team, at least run it back the next year WTF were they thinking?
@@stpbasss3773 Letting go of the scrappy talent that made the team a team, particularly for Russ, is just indefensible at this point. Caruso was almost like the watershed moment for how poor the decision making was.
Isn't it blatantly obvious who the REAL problem is at the Lakers?
Remember the Lakers championship has an asterix next to it.
THE LAKERS SEASON IS OVER 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️😂😂.
We kept that same energy LeBron 😂😂😂
that whole AD trade got them a chip during his first season with the Lakers. Following to that season when they acquired Harell & Schroeder the Lakers could’ve repeated if it wasn’t for injuries their team was set. But after trading for Westbrook that was when things went downhill