It was Dr. Ernest L Martin Ph. D. who wrote the book "The Temples that Jerusalem forgot" by ASK Publications, in 2000, that really got me interested about the true location of the Temple. This video by Robert Cornuke really makes this subject come alive as never before. This is a first class production that should be viewed by the whole world. NO MORE GAMES FOLKS! It takes courage to show people the truth, verses tradition. Robert does just that. I was told years ago by a friend that, the best place to hide something is, right under a persons nose. And here in Jerusalem is evidence right under the peoples nose, and they don't get it - - yet! I hope the blinders come off peoples eyes soon and the whole world finally gets it. In closing, great production, and I hope more people see this video.
God's word is never wrong. This is absolutely fascinating to learn about! EVERYTHING in this video makes so much sense. So glad God led me to your video!
Until you look at the evidence of why the temple was NOT in the "city of David" proper, as we know it today.. ... David bought the ground that was the threshing floor of Joash .. Threshing floors would NEVER be placed near, over, on our around a spring... it would severely contaminate the water ... Solomon built the temple on the ground David purchased. Which was up on Mt. Moriah .. He then built an aqueduct system six miles like from Hebron by Bethlehem that went to giant cisterns under the temple. Those are still evident today. And they do not branch off into the city. They go straight to the cisterns under the temple mount... The reservoirs that the water was taken from are still there to this day, and very full all the time... The water coming from Hebron was under hydrostatic pressure and flowed downhill into the cisterns. The water from the Gihon spring would have had to be pumped up into the temple to wash away the massive blood from the sacrifice ... This is just one obvious reason that the temple was not in the place this video supposed.. There are a thousand reasons more..
I always found that interesting because the Bible said there shall not be one stone upon another and yet they go pray at a whole wall. I was watching a Jewish man walking the wall a few years ago talking about it being the temple and i just kept thinking, that doesn't make sense. The Bible is nothing if not perfectly literal and if God says no stone upon another, than I'm pretty sure there isn't going to be a whole section of wall. Great video!
@@ryankilgore6647 it’s not even that… what you call the retaining wall is the retaining wall of the Roman Fortress…. The Word also days we will plow the field where the temple once stood. Go and look up old pictures and see for yourself.
Bob Cornuke. I just talked with Dave. He had such a wonderful time with you this past week. He was so impressed with you. He spoke very highly. I agree with what you’ve said here. Hope that some day we can visit and talk about these things. Good luck and God a less and protect you and yours.
I follow no religion, so I have no hidden agenda. But what astounds me, is that more people haven't viewed this documentary. This informative video is like the temple itself, hidden in plain sight.
"Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised in the City of our God, in the mountain of His Holiness. BEAUTIFUL FOR SITUATION, the joy of the whole earth, is Mt. Zion on the sides of the north, the City of the great King. I have loved this song for 37 years and now discover why!!!!!
What Cornuke is stating is NOT the truth. He builds is claims on that of Earnest Martin and both men are wrong. They have misquoted the Bible,, historians and ignored archaeological evidence. Do your own research into the subject starting with Biblical truth. You can also watch Derek Walker and Michael Rood on the subject for clarification.
@Elaine Kilgore The "renown biblical archaeologists" that the revisionists rely upon to assert such drivel (Ernst Martin was a meteorologist who knew nothing about academic archeology and the same goes for Robert Cornuke) clearly have not studied Charles Warren, Eilat Mazar, Conrad Schick, Barclay and Willson. Dr. Martin's theory was disproved by the experts already in the early 1990's. The Giḥon spring only fed the residents' needs for water. Conversely, multiple cisterns and water sources are found on the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount has over 20 cisterns and conduits which were plenty of water for the services (I have seen for myself their capped openings on Har haBayit) . One cistern could hold over 2 million gallons and another around 700,000 gallons. This is verified history.On top of this, Jewish records show that there was an aqueduct that brought water in abundance to the Temple Mt. from the Pools of Solomon at Etan near Bethlehem (not to be confused with the aqueduct that Pilot later built). Cornuke and his ilk really do not know what they are talking about. The building of the Ophel south of the wall was actually the Akra which was built by Antiochus IV and destroyed by Shimon the Macabee. The City of David is not wide enough to place the 740 x 740 feet that made the 500 x 500 cubits of Temple Mt. Bad scholarship by these people using Ernest Martin's book which was discredited a while back. Ernest Martin is not a credible resource but Dr Benjamin Mazar, Dr. Eilat Mazar, Captain Charles Warren, Conrad Schick, Lee Ritmeyer and others are, and they all agree Mt. Moriah is the Temple Mount. By the way, the Fort of Antonia was around 40 cubits high on a high ground. The 10th legion only came to Jerusalem after the siege of Jerusalem and a cohort is 500-600 soldiers. According to Josephus the Antonia fortress was razed to the ground by the Romans in order to access the Temple Mt during the destruction of the 2nd Temple. This is only one of many points that I can give to why Dr. Martin's theory can not hold water and why Bob Cornuke is fooling thousands of gullible people who do not know any better. The headquarters for the Roman soldiers was in Caesarea by the sea. The Antonia was not new, it was a fort that was constructed by Solomon and then rebuilt by Nehemia and called the Baris. Herod later expanded the area by filling in the fosse found on the north of the Temple and it was according to Josephus 60 feet deep and 250 wide as protection for the Temple from the north. Herod filled it up and expanded beyond the 500 cubits starting from the offset stone called the Persian stone from Nehemia's time. The experts of the City of David excavations and around the Temple Mt., who work daily to reveal the history of ancient Jerusalem, have found nothing to date that suggests the Temple Mt. was the Antonia fortress. Anyway, Herod expanded to the north, west and south and those are retaining walls which were not part of the biblical measurements. By the way, no credible recognized archeologist says the Temple was south of the Temple Mount. For example, all these archaeologists from the 1800's and 1900's who had access to the site said the same thing about the Temple being on the Temple Mt.: DeVougue 1864, Ferguson 1878, Warren 1880, Conder 1884, Schick 1896, Watson 1896, Mommert 1903, Dalman 1909, Hollis 1934, Simons 1952, Vincent 1954, Ritmeyer 1985. And Josephus must be studied in unity with the Mishnah, Tosefta and the works of Conrad Schick topographical work of the Temple Mount. Josephus whom Martin and Cornuke both falsely quote, never said the Temple was in the city of David nor did he ever say an entire legion of Roman soldiers and their hangers on was permanently living in Jerusalem. He used the word "Tema" which means a lesser amount. Cornuke also doctors excerpts from the Jewish Bible so that they fit the claims he attempts to hawk. He has even lied that Israeli archaeologist Eli Shoukrun claimed that the Holy Temples stood in the City of David, whereas Shoukrun insists on the traditional site's location. The Jewish tradition about the Temple Mount's location boasts anecdotal contiguity since the early AD 70's. Evidently, Josephus was aware of Jews who had begun returning daily to the Mount a mere 2-3 days after the Holy Temple had been sacked. This presence continues among others through early rabbis who ascended to it and was punctuated only for a few years in the Bar-Kokhvah revolt of 132-135 AD until the Byzantine era, when Jews were permitted to go there only one day a year. It is then, intriguingly, in the 4th century, that two gentile authors attest to this Jewish presence and note how the Jews would come up to the giant Foundation Stone and brush it with oil. Daily Jewish presence is renewed during the Persian occupation of the early 7th century and shortly afterward with the Arab Muslim occupation of 638, a presence that was pretty uninterrupted until the First Crusade of 1099. To even suggest we Jews are so dumb that we managed to forget our holiest site along the way since the AD70 Destruction is preposterous and offensive; and utterly arrogant when stated by non-Jews. So this tradition is rock solid, and none of the Christians who attempt to defy it can provide convincing answers that bear scrutiny to the question of when the Jews forgot the supposed original site.
Just started watching... im excited to see this! I believe, you may be correct! Matt 24 is accurate!! Thank you so much for making this video! Maranatha! He's coming!
Great presentation. The work of Bob Cornuke and others on this topic confirms the prior research of Ernest L. Martin who also came to the same conclusion re the location of the Temple.
False! Cornuke has only borrowed from Martin's work to support his own fractured claims and both men are wrong. Both have misquoted the Bible and historians and ignored professional archaeologists who have lived in Israel and work there for years. Martin and Cornuke are only giving a false easy answer to an age old dilemma. The scriptures, Historians and archaeology have proven that the temples stood on what we know as the temple mount area known as Mt. Moriah. It is a falsehood to place all that God commanded in regard to Mt. Moriah as happening in the old city of David. You can also refer to Derek Walker and Michael Rood who shed viable light on the issue.
Minniebell , you’re right. Just see the collection of verses from the scriptures which I have posted in my public comment. Cornuke is carried away by a misunderstanding of the word Zion, which actually in many places denote the character of God as a spiritual dwelling place.
If we believe God’s word that no stones would be left standing from the temple as if it never existed then why do the foundation walls (Western Wall) still stand? The City of David truly gives pause for thought.
What did Roman historian Tacitus say about a "spring of never-failing water" at the temple in section 12 below? He was a teenager when the temple was destroyed during 70AD. The Jews Book Five (1-13) of The Histories by Tacitus 11. So after encamping, as I have said, before the walls of Jerusalem, he paraded his legions in formation before the eyes of the enemy. The Jews, marshalled close under their walls, were in a position to venture further out if they were successful and had a place of refuge ready at hand in case of defeat. Titus sent against them cavalry and some cohorts in battle order, but the encounter was indecisive. Then the enemy gave ground, and for some days thereafter fought a succession of engagements just in front of the gates. Finally, repeated losses drove them behind the walls. The Romans then concentrated on an assault. After all, it seemed beneath them to wait for hunger to do its work on the enemy, and the troops actually asked to be allowed to risk their lives. Some did so because they had real courage, many from mere bravado and a desire for rewards. As for Titus, his imagination dwelt on Rome, wealth and pleasure: it would be long before these dreams were realized if Jerusalem were destined not to fall in the immediate future. But the city occupied a commanding position, and it had been reinforced by engineering works so massive that they might have rendered even a flat site impregnable. Two lofty hills were enclosed by walls skilfully staggered and forming re-entrant angles designed to expose the flank of an attacker. At the edge of the crags was a sharp drop, and a series of towers dominated the scene, 105 feet high where the rising ground helped, and 135 or 120 feet high on the lower contours. (19) These presented an impressive appearance, and to the distant observer seemed to be on a level. There were further walls inside around the palace, and a conspicuous landmark was the lofty castle of Antonia, so named by Herod in honour of Mark Antony. 12. The Temple was like a citadel and had its own walls, which had been even more laboriously and skilfully constructed than the rest. The porticoes around it constituted in themselves an excellent defensive position. To these advantages must be added a spring of never-failing water, chambers cut in the living rock, and tanks and cisterns for the storage of rainwater. Its builders had foreseen only too well that the strange practices of the Jews would lead to continual fighting. Hence everything was available for a siege, however long. Moreover, after Pompey's capture of Jerusalem, fear and experience taught them many lessons. So taking advantage of the money-grubbing instincts of the Claudian period, they purchased permission to fortify the city, and in the days of peace built walls meant for war. Already the home of a motley concourse, its population had been swollen by the fall of the other Jewish cities, for the most determined partisan leaders escaped to the capital, and thereby added to the turmoil. There were three different leaders and three armies. The long outer perimeter of the walls was held by Simon, the central part of the city by John, and the Temple by Eleazar. John and Simon could rely on numbers and equipment, Eleazar on his strategic position. But it was upon each other that they turned the weapons of battle, ambush and fire, and great stocks of corn went up in flames. Then John sent off a party of men, ostensibly to offer sacrifice but in reality to cut Eleazar and his followers to pieces, thus gaining possession of the Temple. Hence-forward, therefore, Jerusalem was divided between two factions, until, on the approach of the Romans, fighting the foreigner healed the breach between them.
"We go by our traditions" they say. ...nothing hath changed since the days Messiah walked that land and were rejected by the religious crowd. Sad to see. ...but it is just how it has always been. God alone can put an end to that. And He shall. ......soon I believe. Oh happy day.
@Becky Evans But the deity in your religion is firstly "God the Father", which all Christians, except for you, insist is the same Father/God the Jews worship. This means you insist that your coreligionists believe in a divine liar. People expressing your kind of view cannot be taken seriously in the least, if they are Christian. This is why we dismiss you as a l-u-n-a-t-i-c.
Bert Graef because we know from Paul’s writings that God is not done with Israel, we, were grafted into their broken branches, but they are still to be honored for Salvation is of the Jews even as Jesus was a Jew (not the religion but the blood line). That’s why.
Nice thought. Remember what Paul told the Corinthians "Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? Read the whole context (1Cor. 1:18 -29) And one must admit, there is a lot of foolishness in this world.
And for some strange reason, Cornuke has always seemed to be reluctant to give the credit and recognition to Ron that Ron deserves. I find that dissatisfying to say the least.
Ron Wyatt is a fraud. He have zero evidence. Exactly as you said Ron Wyatt is the greatest archeologist of all time, he found more than anybody else and his findings are more important than other's. Except he have exactly zero evidence and his story lack logic.
To Bob Cornuke, I have been watching your archaeological expedition for the past two years now and was moved by your systematic, pragmatic and measurable approach in your findings. Your presentation at Duck Flat Church shows clearly that the tradition of the Jewish people is powerfully consuming and any challenge to that will indeed be met with the ire and stern opposition not only by them but also other fellow Christians. Everything points to the strong hold of Zion and the City of David and the most important piece, the true location of Calvary or Golgotha which is east of the original temple site. You sir have discovered what I believe is the most powerful and historical find this century alone and for that matter ever, given the great importance of the Calvary to all the world in the salvation of all mankind. All these monumental events are emerging at a time as the Age of the Church comes to a close. God bless you brother Cornuke and Koinonia House. I wonder what Chuck would be thinking now?
Michele Bryant oh wow. are you new to k-house? it's incredible. it's the best place to learn intellectually about our faith. " cosmic codes" is one of the most profound books you'll ever read
Hi Ben! Yes, so happy to have found this site! Thanks for the recommendation. I will check out "Cosmic Codes" Very much appreciate the recommendation. This site has re-kindled a fire!
Michele Bryant wow I'm jealous! it's not easy, after k-house, to get fed intellectually and spiritually. I remember first reading the small magazine my Dad got ("update") and even with post graduate degree I was blown away
This speaks volumes to me! “If we’re ever going to find the Temple, I think we’re going to have to use the Bible, and the Bible is telling me that the Temple HAS To be in the City of David, In the Strong Hold of Zion, and the luring pole of Oral Traditions needs to be ignored.”
Yes we open bible and more often we open Quran and guess what.. we get answers and further knowledge of what is going to happen under the final days signs. Prophet Essa (jesus) and Imam Mehdi would be resurrected. And Dajjal (third eye) would be unveiled.. and truth will be revealed! That there is Only One God!
Psalm 2 where God says I have installed my King on Zion, my holy hill. Keyword Zion! Thank you very much for sharing and God Bless All. Take care kiddos:)
Fascinating! I certainly believe we are in the end times, and there is nothing hid that will not be shown. I used to believe the Bible was contradictory, but with further study over the years, I find it is not contradictory at all, but is, as our Heavenly Father intended, a true story that leads us straight to Him!!! Ahmein
+Koininia This is one of the, most likely- the most important piece of archaeological findings in our century and those prior. I can't thank you enough for this truly invaluable information and for sharing it with the world. Why have I never heard of this before? This should be shouted from rooftops across the lands. As a Messianic Christian I am beyond astounded, for it has never crossed my mind that there could possibly be another location. Amein Amein. May God/Yah continue to bless you all in all you do. In Yeshua's/Jesus name
I love what the Jewish man said at about 2:40. "Before anyone comes along and changes what's already been established they have to be greater than the ones who established it." Guess Who is the GREATER than Abraham. Guess Who is the GREATER than Moses. Guess Who is the GREATER than David. "Before Abraham was, I AM." His Name is Yeshua Ben David, the Messiah, The Holy One of Yisrael. And He gets the last Word, because He IS the Word.
Amazing that people refuse to believe that the western wall is part of the Roman Fort. Josephus stated that after Jerusalem was destroyed and that the soldiers dug up even the very foundations of the Temple looking for the melted gold that had seeped into the crevices of the rocks and that all that was left was rubble that you would never had known that a city once stood there. Roman troops broke into the city via the northern wall of their fort and fought through to the causeway and broke down the walls into the Temple which they totally flattened and every house of the citizenry. Fort Antonia was the only structure left standing. You deniers should rejoice in this because it means that when archeologist finally locate the exact location of the Temple in the old City they will have the place to build the Temple again without touching the Islamic site. It was in 2004 when archeologists finally located the true site of the pool of Siloam, after many years of believing it was at another location.
I was Just there, iv'e seen all these digs. and more is being uncovered by the day. They will find this evidence if they continue. Even though The Word of God expresses the truth, Jews always demand a sign and they will get one soon.
@@viking670 From what I've learned (I'm not going to repeat everything) and got from decent sources (and not death sea scrolls) it was certainly NOT inside/under Fort Antonia, IF there was a last temple to be destroyed (Titus - Josephus 70 AD), it would have been rather small and OUTSIDE the fort.
This video is so well done! Truth is no respecter of persons...or tradition. It is, what it is. It's pretty simple: the evidence is there and it demands a verdict. This video provides it.
Honey, what does this matter got to do with you? You will not step foot in the Holy Temple's premises anyway. You are probably better off watching the Wheel of Fortune or something. This video provides no verdict; the "renown biblical archaeologists" they rely upon to assert such drivel (Ernst Martin was a meteorologist who knew nothing about academic archeology and the same goes for Robert Cornuke) clearly have not studied Charles Warren, Eilat Mazar, Conrad Schick, Barclay and Willson. Dr. Martin's theory was disproved by the experts already in the early 1990's. The Giḥon spring only fed the residents' needs for water. Conversely, multiple cisterns and water sources are found on the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount has over 20 cisterns and conduits which were plenty of water for the services (I have seen for myself their capped openings on Har haBayit) . One cistern could hold over 2 million gallons and another around 700,000 gallons. This is verified history.On top of this, Jewish records show that there was an aqueduct that brought water in abundance to the Temple Mt. from the Pools of Solomon at Etan near Bethlehem (not to be confused with the aqueduct that Pilot later built). Cornuke and his ilk really do not know what they are talking about. The building of the Ophel south of the wall was actually the Akra which was built by Antiochus IV and destroyed by Shimon the Macabee. The City of David is not wide enough to place the 740 x 740 feet that made the 500 x 500 cubits of Temple Mt. Bad scholarship by these people using Ernest Martin's book which was discredited a while back. Ernest Martin is not a credible resource but Dr Benjamin Mazar, Dr. Eilat Mazar, Captain Charles Warren, Conrad Schick, Lee Ritmeyer and others are, and they all agree Mt. Moriah is the Temple Mount. By the way, the Fort of Antonia was around 40 cubits high on a high ground. The 10th legion only came to Jerusalem after the siege of Jerusalem and a cohort is 500-600 soldiers. According to Josephus the Antonia fortress was razed to the ground by the Romans in order to access the Temple Mt during the destruction of the 2nd Temple. This is only one of many points that I can give to why Dr. Martin's theory can not hold water and why Bob Cornuke is fooling thousands of gullible people like you, who do not know any better. The headquarters for the Roman soldiers was in Caesarea by the sea. The Antonia was not new, it was a fort that was constructed by Solomon and then rebuilt by Nehemia and called the Baris. Herod later expanded the area by filling in the fosse found on the north of the Temple and it was according to Josephus 60 feet deep and 250 wide as protection for the Temple from the north. Herod filled it up and expanded beyond the 500 cubits starting from the offset stone called the Persian stone from Nehemia's time. The experts of the City of David excavations and around the Temple Mt., who work daily to reveal the history of ancient Jerusalem, have found nothing to date that suggests the Temple Mt. was the Antonia fortress. Anyway, Herod expanded to the north, west and south and those are retaining walls which were not part of the biblical measurements. By the way, no credible recognized archeologist says the Temple was south of the Temple Mount. For example, all these archaeologists from the 1800's and 1900's who had access to the site said the same thing about the Temple being on the Temple Mt.: DeVougue 1864, Ferguson 1878, Warren 1880, Conder 1884, Schick 1896, Watson 1896, Mommert 1903, Dalman 1909, Hollis 1934, Simons 1952, Vincent 1954, Ritmeyer 1985. And Josephus must be studied in unity with the Mishnah, Tosefta and the works of Conrad Schick topographical work of the Temple Mount. Josephus whom Martin and Cornuke both falsely quote, never said the Temple was in the city of David nor did he ever say an entire legion of Roman soldiers and their hangers on was permanently living in Jerusalem. He used the word "Tema" which means a lesser amount. Cornuke also doctors excerpts from the Jewish Bible so that they fit the claims he attempts to hawk. He has even lied that Israeli archaeologist Eli Shoukrun claimed that the Holy Temples stood in the City of David, whereas Shoukrun insists on the traditional site's location. The Jewish tradition about the Temple Mount's location boasts anecdotal contiguity since the early AD 70's. Evidently, Josephus was aware of Jews who had begun returning daily to the Mount a mere 2-3 days after the Holy Temple had been sacked. This presence continues among others through early rabbis who ascended to it and was punctuated only for a few years in the Bar-Kokhvah revolt of 132-135 AD until the Byzantine era, when Jews were permitted to go there only one day a year. It is then, intriguingly, in the 4th century, that two gentile authors attest to this Jewish presence and note how the Jews would come up to the giant Foundation Stone and brush it with oil. Daily Jewish presence is renewed during the Persian occupation of the early 7th century and shortly afterward with the Arab Muslim occupation of 638, a presence that was pretty uninterrupted until the First Crusade of 1099. To even suggest we Jews are so dumb that we managed to forget our holiest site along the way since the AD70 Destruction is preposterous and offensive; and utterly arrogant when stated by non-Jews. So this tradition is rock solid, and none of the Christians who attempt to defy it can provide convincing answers that bear scrutiny to the question of when the Jews forgot the supposed original site.
A very thorough investigation. This is not a doctrinal issue. Praise God for investigative minds! His book Temple is really excellent. Do your own research, and praise God.
The enemy is the father of all lies. He struggles to suppress the truth. That is how still there are peoples who don't believe in the Messiah, Yeshua, Jesus Christ.
This theory has always made a lot of sense to me, but what do we make of 2 Chronicles 3:1 "Then Solomon began to build the house of the Lord in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah, where the Lord 0:01 had appeared to David his father, at the place that David had appointed, on the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite."
Scripture, History and Archaeology solid work. THANK YOU! I'm amazed and so so glad I stuck with the video, at first it challenged what I knew, or thought I knew. Really it was just what I was told my whole like, just like 99.9% of people. Here in these last days all will be revealed. Glory to God! He's sooo amazing!
Great work, Oh I tried so hard to learn the difference between The City of David & City of Jerusalem!!! I believed there was a difference but many commentaries led me to assume they were the same place!!! Thank you so much ❤️ ❤️
Aquila one day he will be with us in the New Jereslem and will be our ruler and King David will be our shepherd.belive the and the will be peace all the time there will be not haters and racists lier, theft, I could go on but only the rightous will be there believe that.
He dwell in our hearts now if we are truly bornagain believers but one day God is going to dwell in the New Jereslem we all sinners are destroyed form this land.. didn't you know that there will be one big happy family of all races and colors and greeds no more war, fighting, killing, it will be peace, peace, for ever more all bad people's will be in the lake of 🔥 for ever ever more. Believe that.
Every word of the Bible are Facts and truths! Great work guys. Keep up the good work. In my mind though. The Temple is Living in Heaven and will return again soon at the right hand of His Father.
This theory makes complete sense, especially when taken into account their data. So the Temple was in the City of David Yes, the Temple was in Zion Yes, the Temple was on mount Moriah yes at the lower slope, connecting to David's City at the Ophel and the area that would be in the area of Orlan's threshing floor. Tick tick tick.
Its so obvious that the temple mount used to be Fortress Antionia,if you have seen one Roman Castrum you have seem them all,they are all built to the same specs.
How can anything be a higher Authority than YAHSHUA Hamashiach. This is nothing but a distraction. Our SAVIOUR taught the we, the saints, are the Temple. Read you Bibles and lean not on the way of man for your understanding. Trust in the Holy Spirit, for HE will teach you all things! Those are the words of our Saviour.
You admit this is the Temple from the days of our SAVIOUR. Our SAVIOUR referred to it as the HOUSE OF THE MOST HIGH. Now, you lowly and sinful man wish to correct our SAVIOUR! Shame on you for distracting and confusing the new to salvation! Quit wasting your time and start witnessing about the Gospel!
@@dwh5512 Not ALL history! Josephus contradicts this modern idea as do other ancients. Who would know better what happened back then, eyewitnesses or modern people?
I understand the feeling. Challenging tradition, even when the tradition is failing, is very difficult. God will have to reveal it to them sooner or later I have a feeling that people will say "We were so wrong all the time". This happens in church at times.When the truth of God's Word becomes alive and people are freed from the bondages of "traditions".
Outstanding - I have yet to see Jerusalem but I will. I have always intended going to the temple mount but I will now make that a secondary visit after I have been first to the City of David
Claudio I don't understand why you have no time for her just because she no she wasn't a Jew because if you go to Heaven you all will be together there why not get a lone now it won't be no bull crap in Heaven that's for sure haha
Don’t be fooled. The “tradition” you refer to is fully supported by the Bible. This film is using part of Scripture, not all. The total of Scripture actually shows Mr. Cornuke to be badly misled.
SHANAYA STAR , YOU ARE THE IGNORANT ONE !! THE ONE * LORD ALMIGHTY * GOD YAHWEH , THE * LORD YESHUA / JESUS * CHRIST / THE * SON OF * GOD / THE * SON OF THE MOST HIGH / THE * HOLY SPIRIT ( THE HOLY , DIVINE , RIGHTEOUS , MAJESTIC ( GODHEAD ) THE SCRIPTURES --- THE WRITTEN * WORD OF * GOD !! FOR HE * CHRIST IS THE * WORD OF * GOD IN THE FLESH / HUMAN --- YET WITHOUT SIN !! ---- THE * LORD SPOKE THROUGH HIS PROPHETS OF OLD & IN THESE LAST DAYS HAS SPOKEN THROUGH HIS * SON YESHUA / JESUS -- THE * CHRIST / THE * FATHER'S ANOINTED ONE !! YES , THE SCRIPTURES WERE NOT WRITTEN BY MAN'S WISDOM , WILL OR INTELLECT BUT BY THE WILL OF THE * LORD !! --- READ / SEE THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHECIES AS RE. THE * LORD & HIS FIRST COMING INTO THIS FALLEN SINFUL WORLD TO SAVE SINNERS FROM ETERNAL DEATH , FORGIVENESS OF YOUR , MY , OUR SINS !! ---- YES , THE SINLESS * SON OF * GOD WENT TO THE CROSS / TREE AT CALVARY / GOLGOTHA / THE SHEDDING OF HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD FOR YOU , ME , US ---- ALL MANKIND !! 1 CORINTHIANS 15 VS. 1 ------ 4 -------- YES , PROPHECIES AS RE. HIS SUFFERING ON THE CROSS / TREE !! ISAIAH 53 , THE PSALMS . FORTOLD ONE THOUSAND YEARS BEFORE CRUCIFIXION WAS KNOWN & USED AS PUNISHMENT !! -- YES , THERE IS NO OTHER NAME GIVEN UNDER HEAVEN WHEREBY WE MUST BE SAVED !! ACTS 4 V.12. ---- TURN FROM YOUR SIN OF UNBELIEF -- A CHANGE OF MIND ?! -- TURN AWAY FROM WHATEVER THAT YOU HAVE PUT YOUR HOPE & TRUST IN - YOUR IDOLATRY / IDOLS & TURN TO THE * LORD YESHUA / JESUS * CHRIST & RECEIVE HIM INTO YOUR LIFE / LIVES AS YOUR * LORD & * SAVIOUR -- THUS BE SAVED FOR ETERNITY !! --- AS HE STATED THAT A PERSON MUST BE ( BORN AGAIN ) THIS IS GIVEN TO ALL THOSE THAT TRUST IN HIM & WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR THEM AT CALVARY / GOLGOTHA. THIS IS A SPIRITUAL RE.BIRTH. -- YOU / WE CANNOT SAVE OURSELVES !! ---- FOR THOSE THAT DO RESPOND TO HIS CALLING -- READ / SEE -- JOHN 1 V.12 , 3 V.16 , EPHESIANS 2 VS. 8.9.10. ---- READ / SEE -- ACTS 16 VS. 27 ------------ 32----------- JOHN 14 V.6. -------- JOHN UK.
Josephus had acted as a mediator for the Romans and, when negotiations failed, witnessed the siege and aftermath. He wrote: Now as soon as the army had no more people to slay or to plunder, because there remained none to be the objects of their fury (for they would not have spared any, had there remained any other work to be done), [Titus] Caesar gave orders that they should now demolish the entire city and Temple, but should leave as many of the towers standing as they were of the greatest eminence; that is, Phasaelus, and Hippicus, and Mariamne; and so much of the wall enclosed the city on the west side. This wall was spared, in order to afford a camp for such as were to lie in garrison [in the Upper City], as were the towers [the three forts] also spared, in order to demonstrate to posterity what kind of city it was, and how well fortified, which the Roman valor had subdued; but for all the rest of the wall [surrounding Jerusalem], it was so thoroughly laid even with the ground
I have been taking people on tour to the True Temple in the City of David since 2005. We also show them the tomb of David and the crucifixion site. I have tried to share this with Chuck Misler for many years but never got past his secretaries. There is much much more to learn but no one wants to hear it. I have also been to Noahs' Ark and many other places.
Thanks for your insight and research. Wish I could visit the City of David and the Gihon spring, the true site of the temple. As a kid I always wondered about the western wall and Jesus prophecy of no stone left upon another. Now I know the truth.
Its such an interesting statement that at the time seemed dramatic but now seems (is) prophetic. Why make that statement in the way He did. He is accountable to all His creation to be exactly right in His judgment. And we will be judged on what He has revealed.
What did the Roman historian Tacitus say about a "spring of never-failing water" at the temple in section 12 below? The Jews Book Five (1-13) of The Histories by Tacitus 11. So after encamping, as I have said, before the walls of Jerusalem, he paraded his legions in formation before the eyes of the enemy. The Jews, marshalled close under their walls, were in a position to venture further out if they were successful and had a place of refuge ready at hand in case of defeat. Titus sent against them cavalry and some cohorts in battle order, but the encounter was indecisive. Then the enemy gave ground, and for some days thereafter fought a succession of engagements just in front of the gates. Finally, repeated losses drove them behind the walls. The Romans then concentrated on an assault. After all, it seemed beneath them to wait for hunger to do its work on the enemy, and the troops actually asked to be allowed to risk their lives. Some did so because they had real courage, many from mere bravado and a desire for rewards. As for Titus, his imagination dwelt on Rome, wealth and pleasure: it would be long before these dreams were realized if Jerusalem were destined not to fall in the immediate future. But the city occupied a commanding position, and it had been reinforced by engineering works so massive that they might have rendered even a flat site impregnable. Two lofty hills were enclosed by walls skilfully staggered and forming re-entrant angles designed to expose the flank of an attacker. At the edge of the crags was a sharp drop, and a series of towers dominated the scene, 105 feet high where the rising ground helped, and 135 or 120 feet high on the lower contours. (19) These presented an impressive appearance, and to the distant observer seemed to be on a level. There were further walls inside around the palace, and a conspicuous landmark was the lofty castle of Antonia, so named by Herod in honour of Mark Antony. 12. The Temple was like a citadel and had its own walls, which had been even more laboriously and skilfully constructed than the rest. The porticoes around it constituted in themselves an excellent defensive position. To these advantages must be added a spring of never-failing water, chambers cut in the living rock, and tanks and cisterns for the storage of rainwater. Its builders had foreseen only too well that the strange practices of the Jews would lead to continual fighting. Hence everything was available for a siege, however long. Moreover, after Pompey's capture of Jerusalem, fear and experience taught them many lessons. So taking advantage of the money-grubbing instincts of the Claudian period, they purchased permission to fortify the city, and in the days of peace built walls meant for war. Already the home of a motley concourse, its population had been swollen by the fall of the other Jewish cities, for the most determined partisan leaders escaped to the capital, and thereby added to the turmoil. There were three different leaders and three armies. The long outer perimeter of the walls was held by Simon, the central part of the city by John, and the Temple by Eleazar. John and Simon could rely on numbers and equipment, Eleazar on his strategic position. But it was upon each other that they turned the weapons of battle, ambush and fire, and great stocks of corn went up in flames. Then John sent off a party of men, ostensibly to offer sacrifice but in reality to cut Eleazar and his followers to pieces, thus gaining possession of the Temple. Hence-forward, therefore, Jerusalem was divided between two factions, until, on the approach of the Romans, fighting the foreigner healed the breach between them. 13. Prodigies had occurred, but their expiation by the offering of victims or solemn vows is held to be unlawful by a nation which is the slave of superstition and the enemy of true beliefs. In the sky appeared a vision of armies in conflict, of glittering armour. A sudden lightning flash from the clouds lit up the Temple. The doors of the holy place abruptly opened, a superhuman voice was heard to declare that the gods were leaving it, and in the same instant came the rushing tumult of their departure. Few people placed a sinister interpretation upon this. The majority were convinced that the ancient scriptures of their priests alluded to the present as the very time when the Orient would triumph and from Judaea would go forth men destined to rule the world. This mysterious prophecy really referred to Vespasian and Titus, but the common people, true to the selfish ambitions of mankind, thought that this mighty destiny was reserved for them, and not even their calamities opened their eyes to the truth. We are told that the number of the besieged, old and young, men and women, amounted to 600,000. All who could bear arms did so, and more than their numbers warranted had the courage necessary. They displayed an inflexible determination, women no less than men, and the thought that they might be compelled to leave their home made them more afraid of living than of dying. This, then, was the city and nation which Titus faced. Since a headlong assault and the element of surprise were ruled out by the lie of the ground, he proposed to employ earthworks and mantlets. Each legion had its allotted task, and there was a lull in the fighting while they pushed on with the construction of every conceivable device for storming Cities, whether invented long ago or due to the ingenuity of modern times.
@@whoelseeverdiedforyou1737 nope. I believe the 2 Witnesses are the Word of God and the People Of God. BOTH of which the AntiChrist Roman Emperors tried to wipe out, and BOTH of which came back to life!
Do you really think the Romans would allow the Temple above or equal to their for? No their fort would tower over the temple to show who was the boss and king.
Intriguing and very convincing. I’m not Jewish but had to visit Jerusalem a few years ago and made my way to the Western Wall thinking back then it was part of Solomon’s Temple which I’ve always wanted to visit. Now I guess I have to go back one more time! This video screwed me up! 😩😩😩
That wall is nothing more and nothing less than a retaining wall of the Temple Mount. As a Jew I have both logic and the rock solid Jewish tradition on my side that confirm it was the true location of the Holy Temples and that Cornuke's arguments are garbage. I sleep very well at night.
The "renown biblical archaeologists" they rely upon to assert such drivel (Ernst Martin was a meteorologist who knew nothing about academic archeology and the same goes for Robert Cornuke) clearly have not studied Charles Warren, Eilat Mazar, Conrad Schick, Barclay and Willson. Dr. Martin's theory was disproved by the experts already in the early 1990's. The Giḥon spring only fed the residents' needs for water. Conversely, multiple cisterns and water sources are found on the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount has over 20 cisterns and conduits which were plenty of water for the services (I have seen for myself their capped openings on Har haBayit) . One cistern could hold over 2 million gallons and another around 700,000 gallons. This is verified history.On top of this, Jewish records show that there was an aqueduct that brought water in abundance to the Temple Mt. from the Pools of Solomon at Etan near Bethlehem (not to be confused with the aqueduct that Pilot later built). Cornuke and his ilk really do not know what they are talking about. The building of the Ophel south of the wall was actually the Akra which was built by Antiochus IV and destroyed by Shimon the Macabee. The City of David is not wide enough to place the 740 x 740 feet that made the 500 x 500 cubits of Temple Mt. Bad scholarship by these people using Ernest Martin's book which was discredited a while back. Ernest Martin is not a credible resource but Dr Benjamin Mazar, Dr. Eilat Mazar, Captain Charles Warren, Conrad Schick, Lee Ritmeyer and others are, and they all agree Mt. Moriah is the Temple Mount. By the way, the Fort of Antonia was around 40 cubits high on a high ground. The 10th legion only came to Jerusalem after the siege of Jerusalem and a cohort is 500-600 soldiers. According to Josephus the Antonia fortress was razed to the ground by the Romans in order to access the Temple Mt during the destruction of the 2nd Temple. This is only one of many points that I can give to why Dr. Martin's theory can not hold water and why Bob Cornuke is fooling thousands of gullible people like you, who do not know any better. The headquarters for the Roman soldiers was in Caesarea by the sea. The Antonia was not new, it was a fort that was constructed by Solomon and then rebuilt by Nehemia and called the Baris. Herod later expanded the area by filling in the fosse found on the north of the Temple and it was according to Josephus 60 feet deep and 250 wide as protection for the Temple from the north. Herod filled it up and expanded beyond the 500 cubits starting from the offset stone called the Persian stone from Nehemia's time. The experts of the City of David excavations and around the Temple Mt., who work daily to reveal the history of ancient Jerusalem, have found nothing to date that suggests the Temple Mt. was the Antonia fortress. Anyway, Herod expanded to the north, west and south and those are retaining walls which were not part of the biblical measurements. By the way, no credible recognized archeologist says the Temple was south of the Temple Mount. For example, all these archaeologists from the 1800's and 1900's who had access to the site said the same thing about the Temple being on the Temple Mt.: DeVougue 1864, Ferguson 1878, Warren 1880, Conder 1884, Schick 1896, Watson 1896, Mommert 1903, Dalman 1909, Hollis 1934, Simons 1952, Vincent 1954, Ritmeyer 1985. And Josephus must be studied in unity with the Mishnah, Tosefta and the works of Conrad Schick topographical work of the Temple Mount. Josephus whom Martin and Cornuke both falsely quote, never said the Temple was in the city of David nor did he ever say an entire legion of Roman soldiers and their hangers on was permanently living in Jerusalem. He used the word "Tema" which means a lesser amount. Cornuke also doctors excerpts from the Jewish Bible so that they fit the claims he attempts to hawk. He has even lied that Israeli archaeologist Eli Shoukrun claimed that the Holy Temples stood in the City of David, whereas Shoukrun insists on the traditional site's location. The Jewish tradition about the Temple Mount's location boasts anecdotal contiguity since the early AD 70's. Evidently, Josephus was aware of Jews who had begun returning daily to the Mount a mere 2-3 days after the Holy Temple had been sacked. This presence continues among others through early rabbis who ascended to it and was punctuated only for a few years in the Bar-Kokhvah revolt of 132-135 AD until the Byzantine era, when Jews were permitted to go there only one day a year. It is then, intriguingly, in the 4th century, that two gentile authors attest to this Jewish presence and note how the Jews would come up to the giant Foundation Stone and brush it with oil. Daily Jewish presence is renewed during the Persian occupation of the early 7th century and shortly afterward with the Arab Muslim occupation of 638, a presence that was pretty uninterrupted until the First Crusade of 1099. To even suggest we Jews are so dumb that we managed to forget our holiest site along the way since the AD70 Destruction is preposterous and offensive; and utterly arrogant when stated by non-Jews. So this tradition is rock solid, and none of the Christians who attempt to defy it can provide convincing answers that bear scrutiny to the question of when the Jews forgot the supposed original site.
Yes,these idiots praying to a Roman complex bobbing back and forth like a penguin just proves how silly all these man made religions are... simply myth and silliness... 🤪🙄🤪
@Greg Rhodes You could've saved yourself from being exposed as an ignorant atheist doofus if you hadn't run your keyboard on this matter. Firstly, Jews have never prayed to structures, but rather *at* structures to God. Secondly, if you had read my first comment you would've realized the Temple Mt. cannot be "a Roman complex". As the matter stands, you and the Bob Cornuke crowd are the idiots.
11:15 Nice to finally see a 3D model of this theory.. But, I can't imagine how the accounts of the siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD make sense in this layout.
This video misled the information regarding the Temple on the basis of the Gihon Spring which was a strong hypothesis of the speakers or the chief narrator of this video. If we read the Bible carefully in 2 Chronicles 3:1 it was clearly mentioned that Solomon began to build the House of the LORD in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah (hammoriyyah in Hebrew).
Where were you guys? I discovered you only today. Salam, Peace and Shalom from Jordan. God bless you and Jesus be with you. I want to ask you to come to Jordan and cover all the biblical sites that we have from the Old Testament and the New. This has Christianity erupted. Not too many people know that. Peace and Light.
Didn't Josephus write that the sanctuary of the temple, the east gate and the summit of the mount of olives all lined up perfectly east to west? That would seem to contradict this theory?
The Eastern Gate which is there today was built in the 5th or 6th century, and not there at the time of Temple. Any Biblical references (or those by Josephus) to an Eastern Gate would therefore be speaking of something which existed prior to the current gate, the exact location of which would be speculative.
@@Gutslinger I didn't say Josephus was speculative. I said the exact location of that about which Josephus was speaking can only be speculative, as the gate which stands there today was built five or six hundred years *after* the gate which Josephus described. We have no way of knowing whether the present gate was built on the same location of the previous gate, which had been gone for half a millennia before the current gate was built.
Spot on Kotic1033. You can even see it from the Lutheran Tower that he spoke from. I've been there - tremendous panoramas. Well worth the climb of about 117 steps. It's all about "Being Inline With The Word of God"
This is all interesting. I did find it a curiosity that the "Wailing Wall" is still standing after 2000 years or more and considering Jesus's words that "not one stone will be standing upon another...etc." ir occurred to me that the Wailing Wall was obviously NOT part of the structures demolished. So the toppling of stones occurred with the Temple structure, not the Wailing (Western) Wall area. It makes more sense to consider that the Romans were focused on destruction of the Temple grounds, not necessarily all of the surrounding structures.
The Roman General Titus would be proud if he could see that (fake) wailing wall all lighted up at night. Of course he would, it was his Roman fortress.
Dear All who believe Cornuke’s theory, With some straight forward verses from the Bible (which is never wrong) we can easily see where the temple stood. 1. The first verse is 2 Chronicles 3:1. So we know that it was built on a threshing floor on Mount Moriah. Does Gihon spring run on this mount? 2. After building the temple, Solomon and the elders came to the city of David 1 Kings 8:1. So the temple was not in the city of David. Read specifically the term “bring up the ark”. So city of David was on a lower elevation than the temple. 3. Solomon’s coronation took place at Gihon where probably a building also stood. 1 Kings 1:33. Again note “bring him down to Gihon “. In verse 35 we read that “he shall come up after him that he may come and sit upon my throne “. So the place of Solomon’s coronation and David’s palace which is in city of David is not one. Gihon is lower than city of David. So Solomon’s coronation did not take place in the temple. 4. Solomon brought his wife, the daughter of Pharaoh into the city of David until he had made an end of building his own house and the house of the Lord. (So Solomon’s house and the Lord’s temple are not in the city of David!) 5. Temple was higher than Solomon’s palace- 1 Kings 10:5. Here we read about the “ascent by which he went up to the house of the Lord “. 6. King’s palace and the temple were close by such that noise from the temple was heard in the palace. 2 Kings 11:13. Athaliah heard the noise in the temple and came to it from the palace. Assuming here that she lived in the same Solomon’s palace which was built centuries ago. With all the above it is easy for us to draw a map and overlay it on today’s Jerusalem map and locate the approximate area. It points to the place where Al-Aksa mosque stands. Norma Robertson’s theory is the only one which matches all the above statements from the bible. Moreover, how will Cornuke explain Hezekiah’s tunnel? We know it started from Gihon and was cut into the city of David. If we assume his theory to be correct, did Hezekiah cut the temple? Why should Hezekiah try to channelise the water into the city if it was already inside the temple which is considered part of the city and not outside. Cornuke’s confusion comes from an erroneous understanding of the word “Zion “. Let me explain. There are 3 Zions in the Bible. So whenever you read this word, be careful to take the right meaning. First Zion is the city of David as mentioned straight forward in the bible. Second is Zion the former dwelling place of God in eternity. Psalm 132: 13. Psalm 50:2. (How can one call the dusty rocky hill as perfection of beauty and what is there for God to shine here?) Third, God is building Zion in New Testament church. When the Lord shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory. Clearly a future tense phrase meaning something in future. Read Revelation 14:1 to 5. This is the pure congregation of saints numbering 1,44,000 which is being built. At rapture, the Lord will fulfill this number and gather his church. So most quotes given by Cornuke actually refer to the third Zion which is spiritual. Read more about it in Psalm 87. Finally Bible never mentions that temple was built on running water or Gihon. Of course I agree that water is needed for cleansing the temple. Read more about how water was brought to the temple from Norma’s theory. templemountlocation.com/
That is a brilliant reply well thought out but how do you explain Acts 21:30 The whole city was aroused, and the people came running from all directions. Seizing Paul, they dragged him from the temple, and immediately the gates were shut. 31 While they were trying to kill him, news reached the commander of the Roman troops that the whole city of Jerusalem was in an uproar. 32 He at once took some officers and soldiers and ran down to the crowd. When the rioters saw the commander and his soldiers, they stopped beating Paul. And again In verse 40 After receiving the commander’s permission, Paul stood on the steps and motioned to the crowd. When they were all silent, he said to them in Aramaic.............. Bob's theory is that the fort was above the temple and that steps ran down to to the temple across as I recall 600 feet of land. So Paul gets thrown out of the temple and just outside the gate the mob try to kill him then the Romans run down from I presume the fort to save Paul then he speaks on the steps. I'm not a scholar but I believe Jesus's words that no stone would be left one on top of the other which belonged to the second temple.
1. They are saying it does. 2. They talked about 1 Kings 8:1 at 6:23 3. Obviously Solomon's coronation didn't take place in the temple, because the temple wasn't built until after Solomon became king. I'm going to assume you meant "at the spot of the future temple". 4. That's a faulty conclusion. All it's saying is that they stayed in the City of David until he finished building his own house, the temple, and the wall surrounding Jerusalem. It doesn't state the location of his house or the temple in that verse, but merely that he was building them. As an example, "Bob stayed in New York City until he built his own house and an office building". From that phrase, we have no clue the location of Bob's house and office. They could both be in New York City, both be outside of it, or one be in and one be out. 5. Correct 6. All of those locations are within close enough proximity to hear the noise. There were hundreds of people clapping and saying "Long live the king!" and trumpeters. They aren't saying that the Temple was built into the King David's fort, but rather in that vicinity.
@@aldandrea I saw your comment only now. Whatever is said in Acts and whatever Bob tells us is more aligned to what I have said rather than what he is saying. As per Bob, the fort stood on Mount Moriah. (Although Bible clearly tells us that the Temple was built on Mount Moriah). He reads Acts 21: 30 and thinks that the fort and the Temple were connected by steps. That is also correct. But how long was this corridor? Was the steps running from Mount Moriah all the way down to the city of David? If so what about the buildings in the Ophel area? He places the Temple in the city of David. Even if we assume that he places the Temple in the northern most edge of the city of David, still we will have a long corridor of steps. Was this really the case? The fort itself was built to protect the Temple and from invasions from the North. Having a long corridor doesn't provide such a protection to the Temple. On the other hand, as per Bible I place the Temple on the southern edge of Mount Moriah where the Al Aqsa mosque is. This means still you have enough ground to the North and also on higher level than the Temple to place the fort. So the fort stood on the topmost part of Mount Moriah and the Temple in the southern edge which is at a lower level. Both were connected by steps and the corridor must have been much shorter than what Bob is talking about.
Where did we hear this before? Traditions was the wise Leaders of the Temple stumbling stone. Giving ordinary believers all these man made rules & Traditions. Jesus told them that they were too tied up with traditions, & that hindered them from understanding his coming as prophesied all over the Torah. When someone puts anything above the Torah, then there is confusion & a loss of blessings. Twelve Apostles were picked for a reason. Very much explained in the new Testament. "Strangers will sit at Abrahams Table", & "they will take your place". The third Temple will be built as prophesied in Daniel. Antichirst will reign from there, until Jesus returns to judge all. Jesus was a Priest & a King. First coming was a priest, Second Coming will be as a King. We welcome all our Jewish Brothers & Sisters to join in worship, as our Jewish Messiah rules all the earth. A true Monarchy established on Earth, once & for all. And we all said AMEN!!!
The "renown biblical archaeologists" the revisionists rely upon to assert such drivel (Ernst Martin was a meteorologist who knew nothing about academic archeology and the same goes for Robert Cornuke) clearly have not studied Charles Warren, Eilat Mazar, Conrad Schick, Barclay and Willson. Dr. Martin's theory was disproved by the experts already in the early 1990's. The Giḥon spring only fed the residents' needs for water. Conversely, multiple cisterns and water sources are found on the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount has over 20 cisterns and conduits which were plenty of water for the services (I have seen for myself their capped openings on Har haBayit) . One cistern could hold over 2 million gallons and another around 700,000 gallons. This is verified history.On top of this, Jewish records show that there was an aqueduct that brought water in abundance to the Temple Mt. from the Pools of Solomon at Etan near Bethlehem (not to be confused with the aqueduct that Pilot later built). Cornuke and his ilk really do not know what they are talking about. The building of the Ophel south of the wall was actually the Akra which was built by Antiochus IV and destroyed by Shimon the Macabee. The City of David is not wide enough to place the 740 x 740 feet that made the 500 x 500 cubits of Temple Mt. Bad scholarship by these people using Ernest Martin's book which was discredited a while back. Ernest Martin is not a credible resource but Dr Benjamin Mazar, Dr. Eilat Mazar, Captain Charles Warren, Conrad Schick, Lee Ritmeyer and others are, and they all agree Mt. Moriah is the Temple Mount. By the way, the Fort of Antonia was around 40 cubits high on a high ground. The 10th legion only came to Jerusalem after the siege of Jerusalem and a cohort is 500-600 soldiers. According to Josephus the Antonia fortress was razed to the ground by the Romans in order to access the Temple Mt during the destruction of the 2nd Temple. This is only one of many points that I can give to why Dr. Martin's theory can not hold water and why Bob Cornuke is fooling thousands of gullible people like them, who do not know any better. The headquarters for the Roman soldiers was in Caesarea by the sea. The Antonia was not new, it was a fort that was constructed by Solomon and then rebuilt by Nehemia and called the Baris. Herod later expanded the area by filling in the fosse found on the north of the Temple and it was according to Josephus 60 feet deep and 250 wide as protection for the Temple from the north. Herod filled it up and expanded beyond the 500 cubits starting from the offset stone called the Persian stone from Nehemia's time. The experts of the City of David excavations and around the Temple Mt., who work daily to reveal the history of ancient Jerusalem, have found nothing to date that suggests the Temple Mt. was the Antonia fortress. Anyway, Herod expanded to the north, west and south and those are retaining walls which were not part of the biblical measurements. By the way, no credible recognized archeologist says the Temple was south of the Temple Mount. For example, all these archaeologists from the 1800's and 1900's who had access to the site said the same thing about the Temple being on the Temple Mt.: DeVougue 1864, Ferguson 1878, Warren 1880, Conder 1884, Schick 1896, Watson 1896, Mommert 1903, Dalman 1909, Hollis 1934, Simons 1952, Vincent 1954, Ritmeyer 1985. And Josephus must be studied in unity with the Mishnah, Tosefta and the works of Conrad Schick topographical work of the Temple Mount. Josephus whom Martin and Cornuke both falsely quote, never said the Temple was in the city of David nor did he ever say an entire legion of Roman soldiers and their hangers on was permanently living in Jerusalem. He used the word "Tema" which means a lesser amount. Cornuke also doctors excerpts from the Jewish Bible so that they fit the claims he attempts to hawk. He has even lied that Israeli archaeologist Eli Shoukrun claimed that the Holy Temples stood in the City of David, whereas Shoukrun insists on the traditional site's location. The Jewish tradition about the Temple Mount's location boasts anecdotal contiguity since the early AD 70's. Evidently, Josephus was aware of Jews who had begun returning daily to the Mount a mere 2-3 days after the Holy Temple had been sacked. This presence continues among others through early rabbis who ascended to it and was punctuated only for a few years in the Bar-Kokhvah revolt of 132-135 AD until the Byzantine era, when Jews were permitted to go there only one day a year. It is then, intriguingly, in the 4th century, that two gentile authors attest to this Jewish presence and note how the Jews would come up to the giant Foundation Stone and brush it with oil. Daily Jewish presence is renewed during the Persian occupation of the early 7th century and shortly afterward with the Arab Muslim occupation of 638, a presence that was pretty uninterrupted until the First Crusade of 1099. To even suggest we Jews are so dumb that we managed to forget our holiest site along the way since the AD70 Destruction is preposterous and offensive; and utterly arrogant when stated by non-Jews. So this tradition is rock solid, and none of the Christians who attempt to defy it can provide convincing answers that bear scrutiny to the question of when the Jews forgot the supposed original site.
@@ZviJ1 God will have His temple built wherever He wills it. This is a good thing. I personally don't think the site will be the mount. I think it'll be built in Shiloh. As I said, we'll soon find out.
I think you have been right to say you have to follow what the Bible says and it will direct you to the correct place. From all the evidence presented it would seem that you are correct. If indeed we are in the "last days", it would make sense that these things are being revealed.
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It was Dr. Ernest L Martin Ph. D. who wrote the book "The Temples that Jerusalem forgot" by ASK Publications, in 2000, that really got me interested about the true location of the Temple. This video by Robert Cornuke really makes this subject come alive as never before. This is a first class production that should be viewed by the whole world. NO MORE GAMES FOLKS! It takes courage to show people the truth, verses tradition. Robert does just that. I was told years ago by a friend that, the best place to hide something is, right under a persons nose. And here in Jerusalem is evidence right under the peoples nose, and they don't get it - - yet! I hope the blinders come off peoples eyes soon and the whole world finally gets it. In closing, great production, and I hope more people see this video.
God's word is never wrong. This is absolutely fascinating to learn about! EVERYTHING in this video makes so much sense. So glad God led me to your video!
Until you look at the evidence of why the temple was NOT in the "city of David" proper, as we know it today.. ... David bought the ground that was the threshing floor of Joash .. Threshing floors would NEVER be placed near, over, on our around a spring... it would severely contaminate the water ... Solomon built the temple on the ground David purchased. Which was up on Mt. Moriah .. He then built an aqueduct system six miles like from Hebron by Bethlehem that went to giant cisterns under the temple. Those are still evident today. And they do not branch off into the city. They go straight to the cisterns under the temple mount... The reservoirs that the water was taken from are still there to this day, and very full all the time... The water coming from Hebron was under hydrostatic pressure and flowed downhill into the cisterns. The water from the Gihon spring would have had to be pumped up into the temple to wash away the massive blood from the sacrifice ... This is just one obvious reason that the temple was not in the place this video supposed.. There are a thousand reasons more..
I always found that interesting because the Bible said there shall not be one stone upon another and yet they go pray at a whole wall. I was watching a Jewish man walking the wall a few years ago talking about it being the temple and i just kept thinking, that doesn't make sense. The Bible is nothing if not perfectly literal and if God says no stone upon another, than I'm pretty sure there isn't going to be a whole section of wall. Great video!
That’s the retaining wall they pray at….not the actual temple wall stones.
@@ryankilgore6647 it’s not even that… what you call the retaining wall is the retaining wall of the Roman Fortress…. The Word also days we will plow the field where the temple once stood. Go and look up old pictures and see for yourself.
AMEN
Bob Cornuke. I just talked with Dave. He had such a wonderful time with you this past week. He was so impressed with you. He spoke very highly.
I agree with what you’ve said here. Hope that some day we can visit and talk about these things. Good luck and God a less and protect you and yours.
Excellent. Thank you Bob Carnuke.and Koinonia House.
I follow no religion, so I have no hidden agenda. But what astounds me, is that more people haven't viewed this documentary. This informative video is like the temple itself, hidden in plain sight.
I just love these videos...I learn so much about my Lord & Savior...Please make more!
"Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised in the City of our God, in the mountain of His Holiness. BEAUTIFUL FOR SITUATION, the joy of the whole earth, is Mt. Zion on the sides of the north, the City of the great King. I have loved this song for 37 years and now discover why!!!!!
I sang this song this morning! Psalm 48:1-2. I miss Chuck Missler too.
I was blessed today to know this truth. Thank you Lord! The time is near!
What Cornuke is stating is NOT the truth. He builds is claims on that of Earnest Martin and both men are wrong. They have misquoted the Bible,, historians and ignored archaeological evidence. Do your own research into the subject starting with Biblical truth. You can also watch Derek Walker and Michael Rood on the subject for clarification.
Minniebell, what causes you to believe the temple was not built in the City of David? I’m quite interested.
Closer today. Even so, Come Lord Jesus.
@PRINCE SHAMIYAH144 the heathens are many.&time is short.
@Elaine Kilgore
The "renown biblical archaeologists" that the revisionists rely upon to assert such drivel (Ernst Martin was a meteorologist who knew nothing about academic archeology and the same goes for Robert Cornuke) clearly have not studied Charles Warren, Eilat Mazar, Conrad Schick, Barclay and Willson. Dr. Martin's theory was disproved by the experts already in the early 1990's.
The Giḥon spring only fed the residents' needs for water. Conversely, multiple cisterns and water sources are found on the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount has over 20 cisterns and conduits which were plenty of water for the services (I have seen for myself their capped openings on Har haBayit) . One cistern could hold over 2 million gallons and another around 700,000 gallons. This is verified history.On top of this, Jewish records show that there was an aqueduct that brought water in abundance to the Temple Mt. from the Pools of Solomon at Etan near Bethlehem (not to be confused with the aqueduct that Pilot later built). Cornuke and his ilk really do not know what they are talking about.
The building of the Ophel south of the wall was actually the Akra which was built by Antiochus IV and destroyed by Shimon the Macabee. The City of David is not wide enough to place the 740 x 740 feet that made the 500 x 500 cubits of Temple Mt.
Bad scholarship by these people using Ernest Martin's book which was discredited a while back.
Ernest Martin is not a credible resource but Dr Benjamin Mazar, Dr. Eilat Mazar, Captain Charles Warren, Conrad Schick, Lee Ritmeyer and others are, and they all agree Mt. Moriah is the Temple Mount. By the way, the Fort of Antonia was around 40 cubits high on a high ground. The 10th legion only came to Jerusalem after the siege of Jerusalem and a cohort is 500-600 soldiers. According to Josephus the Antonia fortress was razed to the ground by the Romans in order to access the Temple Mt during the destruction of the 2nd Temple. This is only one of many points that I can give to why Dr. Martin's theory can not hold water and why Bob Cornuke is fooling thousands of gullible people who do not know any better.
The headquarters for the Roman soldiers was in Caesarea by the sea. The Antonia was not new, it was a fort that was constructed by Solomon and then rebuilt by Nehemia and called the Baris. Herod later expanded the area by filling in the fosse found on the north of the Temple and it was according to Josephus 60 feet deep and 250 wide as protection for the Temple from the north. Herod filled it up and expanded beyond the 500 cubits starting from the offset stone called the Persian stone from Nehemia's time.
The experts of the City of David excavations and around the Temple Mt., who work daily to reveal the history of ancient Jerusalem, have found nothing to date that suggests the Temple Mt. was the Antonia fortress.
Anyway, Herod expanded to the north, west and south and those are retaining walls which were not part of the biblical measurements.
By the way, no credible recognized archeologist says the Temple was south of the Temple Mount. For example, all these archaeologists from the 1800's and 1900's who had access to the site said the same thing about the Temple being on the Temple Mt.: DeVougue 1864, Ferguson 1878, Warren 1880, Conder 1884, Schick 1896, Watson 1896, Mommert 1903, Dalman 1909, Hollis 1934, Simons 1952, Vincent 1954, Ritmeyer 1985.
And Josephus must be studied in unity with the Mishnah, Tosefta and the works of Conrad Schick topographical work of the Temple Mount. Josephus whom Martin and Cornuke both falsely quote, never said the Temple was in the city of David nor did he ever say an entire legion of Roman soldiers and their hangers on was permanently living in Jerusalem. He used the word "Tema" which means a lesser amount. Cornuke also doctors excerpts from the Jewish Bible so that they fit the claims he attempts to hawk. He has even lied that Israeli archaeologist Eli Shoukrun claimed that the Holy Temples stood in the City of David, whereas Shoukrun insists on the traditional site's location.
The Jewish tradition about the Temple Mount's location boasts anecdotal contiguity since the early AD 70's. Evidently, Josephus was aware of Jews who had begun returning daily to the Mount a mere 2-3 days after the Holy Temple had been sacked. This presence continues among others through early rabbis who ascended to it and was punctuated only for a few years in the Bar-Kokhvah revolt of 132-135 AD until the Byzantine era, when Jews were permitted to go there only one day a year. It is then, intriguingly, in the 4th century, that two gentile authors attest to this Jewish presence and note how the Jews would come up to the giant Foundation Stone and brush it with oil. Daily Jewish presence is renewed during the Persian occupation of the early 7th century and shortly afterward with the Arab Muslim occupation of 638, a presence that was pretty uninterrupted until the First Crusade of 1099. To even suggest we Jews are so dumb that we managed to forget our holiest site along the way since the AD70 Destruction is preposterous and offensive; and utterly arrogant when stated by non-Jews. So this tradition is rock solid, and none of the Christians who attempt to defy it can provide convincing answers that bear scrutiny to the question of when the Jews forgot the supposed original site.
Just started watching... im excited to see this! I believe, you may be correct! Matt 24 is accurate!! Thank you so much for making this video! Maranatha! He's coming!
ToriMichele Morris Well according to 2 Chronicles 3:1 Solomon build the temple on Mount Moriah which is located in Jerusalem
MARANATHA!
Great presentation. The work of Bob Cornuke and others on this topic confirms the prior research of Ernest L. Martin who also came to the same conclusion re the location of the Temple.
False! Cornuke has only borrowed from Martin's work to support his own fractured claims and both men are wrong. Both have misquoted the Bible and historians and ignored professional archaeologists who have lived in Israel and work there for years. Martin and Cornuke are only giving a false easy answer to an age old dilemma. The scriptures, Historians and archaeology have proven that the temples stood on what we know as the temple mount area known as Mt. Moriah. It is a falsehood to place all that God commanded in regard to Mt. Moriah as happening in the old city of David. You can also refer to Derek Walker and Michael Rood who shed viable light on the issue.
Minniebell , you’re right. Just see the collection of verses from the scriptures which I have posted in my public comment. Cornuke is carried away by a misunderstanding of the word Zion, which actually in many places denote the character of God as a spiritual dwelling place.
MInniebell, Cornuke merely built upon Martin's work much like say Albert Einstein built upon Newton's scientific ideas.
Before concluding the Ophel was where the Temple stood please watch this: th-cam.com/video/l-k38U1-HLY/w-d-xo.html
If we believe God’s word that no stones would be left standing from the temple as if it never existed then why do the foundation walls (Western Wall) still stand? The City of David truly gives pause for thought.
This is absolutely fascinating... I believe the Scriptures, and I believe this!
What did Roman historian Tacitus say about a "spring of never-failing water" at the temple in section 12 below?
He was a teenager when the temple was destroyed during 70AD.
The Jews
Book Five (1-13) of The Histories by Tacitus
11. So after encamping, as I have said, before the walls of Jerusalem, he paraded his legions in formation before the eyes of the enemy. The Jews, marshalled close under their walls, were in a position to venture further out if they were successful and had a place of refuge ready at hand in case of defeat. Titus sent against them cavalry and some cohorts in battle order, but the encounter was indecisive. Then the enemy gave ground, and for some days thereafter fought a succession of engagements just in front of the gates. Finally, repeated losses drove them behind the walls. The Romans then concentrated on an assault. After all, it seemed beneath them to wait for hunger to do its work on the enemy, and the troops actually asked to be allowed to risk their lives. Some did so because they had real courage, many from mere bravado and a desire for rewards. As for Titus, his imagination dwelt on Rome, wealth and pleasure: it would be long before these dreams were realized if Jerusalem were destined not to fall in the immediate future.
But the city occupied a commanding position, and it had been reinforced by engineering works so massive that they might have rendered even a flat site impregnable. Two lofty hills were enclosed by walls skilfully staggered and forming re-entrant angles designed to expose the flank of an attacker. At the edge of the crags was a sharp drop, and a series of towers dominated the scene, 105 feet high where the rising ground helped, and 135 or 120 feet high on the lower contours. (19) These presented an impressive appearance, and to the distant observer seemed to be on a level. There were further walls inside around the palace, and a conspicuous landmark was the lofty castle of Antonia, so named by Herod in honour of Mark Antony.
12. The Temple was like a citadel and had its own walls, which had been even more laboriously and skilfully constructed than the rest. The porticoes around it constituted in themselves an excellent defensive position. To these advantages must be added a spring of never-failing water, chambers cut in the living rock, and tanks and cisterns for the storage of rainwater. Its builders had foreseen only too well that the strange practices of the Jews would lead to continual fighting. Hence everything was available for a siege, however long. Moreover, after Pompey's capture of Jerusalem, fear and experience taught them many lessons. So taking advantage of the money-grubbing instincts of the Claudian period, they purchased permission to fortify the city, and in the days of peace built walls meant for war. Already the home of a motley concourse, its population had been swollen by the fall of the other Jewish cities, for the most determined partisan leaders escaped to the capital, and thereby added to the turmoil. There were three different leaders and three armies. The long outer perimeter of the walls was held by Simon, the central part of the city by John, and the Temple by Eleazar. John and Simon could rely on numbers and equipment, Eleazar on his strategic position. But it was upon each other that they turned the weapons of battle, ambush and fire, and great stocks of corn went up in flames. Then John sent off a party of men, ostensibly to offer sacrifice but in reality to cut Eleazar and his followers to pieces, thus gaining possession of the Temple. Hence-forward, therefore, Jerusalem was divided between two factions, until, on the approach of the Romans, fighting the foreigner healed the breach between them.
"We go by our traditions" they say. ...nothing hath changed since the days Messiah walked that land and were rejected by the religious crowd. Sad to see. ...but it is just how it has always been. God alone can put an end to that. And He shall. ......soon I believe. Oh happy day.
Right and keeping Christmas, Easter, Halloween, Valentine's Day and Sunday is what Jesus practiced...
We’ve been told a lot of lies. A broken and contrite spirit God will
Not despise!
@@beckyevans1154So why do so many Christians keep blessing and promoting these liars and their false Israel?
@Becky Evans But the deity in your religion is firstly "God the Father", which all Christians, except for you, insist is the same Father/God the Jews worship. This means you insist that your coreligionists believe in a divine liar. People expressing your kind of view cannot be taken seriously in the least, if they are Christian.
This is why we dismiss you as a l-u-n-a-t-i-c.
Bert Graef because we know from Paul’s writings that God is not done with Israel, we, were grafted into their broken branches, but they are still to be honored for Salvation is of the Jews even as Jesus was a Jew (not the religion but the blood line). That’s why.
We are too intelligent that makes us arrogant. Pure heart and simple soul is needed to believe.
Nice thought. Remember what Paul told the Corinthians "Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? Read the whole context (1Cor. 1:18 -29) And one must admit, there is a lot of foolishness in this world.
absolute fantastic research, my heart is pounding with excitement, the Holy Temple Of Our LORD GOD. Praise be and may GOD bless you
This is a major great discovery but Ron Wyatt's discoveries are the greatest ever made, it's so sad that most people don't know about his work!
And for some strange reason, Cornuke has always seemed to be reluctant to give the credit and recognition to Ron that Ron deserves. I find that dissatisfying to say the least.
Ron Wyatt is a fraud. He have zero evidence. Exactly as you said Ron Wyatt is the greatest archeologist of all time, he found more than anybody else and his findings are more important than other's. Except he have exactly zero evidence and his story lack logic.
@@francisbusa1074 Because Ron Wyatt is a fraud. Everybody who give credit to him discredit himself.
Fascinating. Great job. Excellent work.
its the stupid crusades all over again. Only the weapons are exponentially far more devastating. You stupid stupid people. :(
Fascinating. Thank you Koinonia House, thank you Rod, and thank you God
Wow! Amazing historical finding.
It's now revealed as per Bible prophecy.
The time is now !
Maranatha! Look up for our redemption draws nigh.
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To Bob Cornuke, I have been watching your archaeological expedition for the past two years now and was moved by your systematic, pragmatic and measurable approach in your findings. Your presentation at Duck Flat Church shows clearly that the tradition of the Jewish people is powerfully consuming and any challenge to that will indeed be met with the ire and stern opposition not only by them but also other fellow Christians. Everything points to the strong hold of Zion and the City of David and the most important piece, the true location of Calvary or Golgotha which is east of the original temple site. You sir have discovered what I believe is the most powerful and historical find this century alone and for that matter ever, given the great importance of the Calvary to all the world in the salvation of all mankind.
All these monumental events are emerging at a time as the Age of the Church comes to a close. God bless you brother Cornuke and Koinonia House. I wonder what Chuck would be thinking now?
New to this sight. THIS is amazing! It makes so much more sense and lines up beautifully. Thank you for sharing! BIG THUMBS UP!!!
Michele Bryant oh wow. are you new to k-house? it's incredible. it's the best place to learn intellectually about our faith. " cosmic codes" is one of the most profound books you'll ever read
Hi Ben! Yes, so happy to have found this site! Thanks for the recommendation. I will check out "Cosmic Codes" Very much appreciate the recommendation. This site has re-kindled a fire!
Michele Bryant wow I'm jealous! it's not easy, after k-house, to get fed intellectually and spiritually. I remember first reading the small magazine my Dad got ("update") and even with post graduate degree I was blown away
Before concluding the Ophel was where the Temple stood please watch this: th-cam.com/video/l-k38U1-HLY/w-d-xo.html
Good job Mr Cornuke. I salute your effort. Hope the jews, christian and muslims would accept your findings and bring peace to the city of Jerusalem.
This speaks volumes to me!
“If we’re ever going to find the Temple, I think we’re going to have to use the Bible, and the Bible is telling me that the Temple HAS To be in the City of David, In the Strong Hold of Zion, and the luring pole of Oral Traditions needs to be ignored.”
Yes we open bible and more often we open Quran and guess what.. we get answers and further knowledge of what is going to happen under the final days signs. Prophet Essa (jesus) and Imam Mehdi would be resurrected. And Dajjal (third eye) would be unveiled.. and truth will be revealed! That there is Only One God!
Some valid points. Something tells me I'll be examining all of this in more detail.
Psalm 2 where God says I have installed my King on Zion, my holy hill. Keyword Zion!
Thank you very much for sharing and God Bless All. Take care kiddos:)
wrong. The builders rejected the chief cornerstone. You people are simply following the blind Jews into the ditch they have been in for 2000 years.
Fascinating! I certainly believe we are in the end times, and there is nothing hid that will not be shown. I used to believe the Bible was contradictory, but with further study over the years, I find it is not contradictory at all, but is, as our Heavenly Father intended, a true story that leads us straight to Him!!!
Ahmein
I find this so exciting.....the evidence seems conclusive.....thanks for posting.
+Koininia This is one of the, most likely- the most important piece of archaeological findings in our century and those prior. I can't thank you enough for this truly invaluable information and for sharing it with the world. Why have I never heard of this before? This should be shouted from rooftops across the lands. As a Messianic Christian I am beyond astounded, for it has never crossed my mind that there could possibly be another location. Amein Amein. May God/Yah continue to bless you all in all you do. In Yeshua's/Jesus name
Shalom my brothers and sisters.
Annalee Sellars this is new for me too I'm really excited.
Look up Ron Wyatt and his amazing discoveries and you'll see the greatest discoveries ever made!
Traditions are for men with pride, the word of God is for salvation🙏
Their time is short now.
I love what the Jewish man said at about 2:40. "Before anyone comes along and changes what's already been established they have to be greater than the ones who established it."
Guess Who is the GREATER than Abraham. Guess Who is the GREATER than Moses. Guess Who is the GREATER than David. "Before Abraham was, I AM."
His Name is Yeshua Ben David, the Messiah, The Holy One of Yisrael. And He gets the last Word, because He IS the Word.
Great documentary; possibly the best I have seen on the temple location!
pleasant surprise to see Dr. Frank Turek! Great man of God.
Fantastic video! Keep these coming. God says what he means and means what he says.
Bev Sivert So true! GOD'S WORD stays the same, HE NEVER changes, HE is the same YESTERDAY, TODAY & FOREVERMORE! 🤓❤💯👑👑👑
AMEN!
Before concluding the Ophel was where the Temple stood please watch this: th-cam.com/video/l-k38U1-HLY/w-d-xo.html
So beautiful and profound ❤. 😊Very informative too 👏
Amazing that people refuse to believe that the western wall is part of the Roman Fort. Josephus stated that after Jerusalem was destroyed and that the soldiers dug up even the very foundations of the Temple looking for the melted gold that had seeped into the crevices of the rocks and that all that was left was rubble that you would never had known that a city once stood there.
Roman troops broke into the city via the northern wall of their fort and fought through to the causeway and broke down the walls into the Temple which they totally flattened and every house of the citizenry. Fort Antonia was the only structure left standing.
You deniers should rejoice in this because it means that when archeologist finally locate the exact location of the Temple in the old City they will have the place to build the Temple again without touching the Islamic site.
It was in 2004 when archeologists finally located the true site of the pool of Siloam, after many years of believing it was at another location.
I was Just there, iv'e seen all these digs. and more is being uncovered by the day. They will find this evidence if they continue. Even though The Word of God expresses the truth, Jews always demand a sign and they will get one soon.
@@Madigan0895 Madigan, be realistic. They won't find anything, because the Temple (even it had existed) was simply NOT there.
@@janverboven If its not there, where do you think it is ?
@@viking670 From what I've learned (I'm not going to repeat everything) and got from decent sources (and not death sea scrolls) it was certainly NOT inside/under Fort Antonia, IF there was a last temple to be destroyed (Titus - Josephus 70 AD), it would have been rather small and OUTSIDE the fort.
@@Madigan0895 They demand a sign? That makes them bigger than God?
God is a slave to their whims? Really now. Give your head a good shake.
This video is so well done! Truth is no respecter of persons...or tradition. It is, what it is. It's pretty simple: the evidence is there and it demands a verdict. This video provides it.
Honey, what does this matter got to do with you? You will not step foot in the Holy Temple's premises anyway. You are probably better off watching the Wheel of Fortune or something. This video provides no verdict; the "renown biblical archaeologists" they rely upon to assert such drivel (Ernst Martin was a meteorologist who knew nothing about academic archeology and the same goes for Robert Cornuke) clearly have not studied Charles Warren, Eilat Mazar, Conrad Schick, Barclay and Willson. Dr. Martin's theory was disproved by the experts already in the early 1990's.
The Giḥon spring only fed the residents' needs for water. Conversely, multiple cisterns and water sources are found on the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount has over 20 cisterns and conduits which were plenty of water for the services (I have seen for myself their capped openings on Har haBayit) . One cistern could hold over 2 million gallons and another around 700,000 gallons. This is verified history.On top of this, Jewish records show that there was an aqueduct that brought water in abundance to the Temple Mt. from the Pools of Solomon at Etan near Bethlehem (not to be confused with the aqueduct that Pilot later built). Cornuke and his ilk really do not know what they are talking about.
The building of the Ophel south of the wall was actually the Akra which was built by Antiochus IV and destroyed by Shimon the Macabee. The City of David is not wide enough to place the 740 x 740 feet that made the 500 x 500 cubits of Temple Mt.
Bad scholarship by these people using Ernest Martin's book which was discredited a while back.
Ernest Martin is not a credible resource but Dr Benjamin Mazar, Dr. Eilat Mazar, Captain Charles Warren, Conrad Schick, Lee Ritmeyer and others are, and they all agree Mt. Moriah is the Temple Mount. By the way, the Fort of Antonia was around 40 cubits high on a high ground. The 10th legion only came to Jerusalem after the siege of Jerusalem and a cohort is 500-600 soldiers. According to Josephus the Antonia fortress was razed to the ground by the Romans in order to access the Temple Mt during the destruction of the 2nd Temple. This is only one of many points that I can give to why Dr. Martin's theory can not hold water and why Bob Cornuke is fooling thousands of gullible people like you, who do not know any better.
The headquarters for the Roman soldiers was in Caesarea by the sea. The Antonia was not new, it was a fort that was constructed by Solomon and then rebuilt by Nehemia and called the Baris. Herod later expanded the area by filling in the fosse found on the north of the Temple and it was according to Josephus 60 feet deep and 250 wide as protection for the Temple from the north. Herod filled it up and expanded beyond the 500 cubits starting from the offset stone called the Persian stone from Nehemia's time.
The experts of the City of David excavations and around the Temple Mt., who work daily to reveal the history of ancient Jerusalem, have found nothing to date that suggests the Temple Mt. was the Antonia fortress.
Anyway, Herod expanded to the north, west and south and those are retaining walls which were not part of the biblical measurements.
By the way, no credible recognized archeologist says the Temple was south of the Temple Mount. For example, all these archaeologists from the 1800's and 1900's who had access to the site said the same thing about the Temple being on the Temple Mt.: DeVougue 1864, Ferguson 1878, Warren 1880, Conder 1884, Schick 1896, Watson 1896, Mommert 1903, Dalman 1909, Hollis 1934, Simons 1952, Vincent 1954, Ritmeyer 1985.
And Josephus must be studied in unity with the Mishnah, Tosefta and the works of Conrad Schick topographical work of the Temple Mount. Josephus whom Martin and Cornuke both falsely quote, never said the Temple was in the city of David nor did he ever say an entire legion of Roman soldiers and their hangers on was permanently living in Jerusalem. He used the word "Tema" which means a lesser amount. Cornuke also doctors excerpts from the Jewish Bible so that they fit the claims he attempts to hawk. He has even lied that Israeli archaeologist Eli Shoukrun claimed that the Holy Temples stood in the City of David, whereas Shoukrun insists on the traditional site's location.
The Jewish tradition about the Temple Mount's location boasts anecdotal contiguity since the early AD 70's. Evidently, Josephus was aware of Jews who had begun returning daily to the Mount a mere 2-3 days after the Holy Temple had been sacked. This presence continues among others through early rabbis who ascended to it and was punctuated only for a few years in the Bar-Kokhvah revolt of 132-135 AD until the Byzantine era, when Jews were permitted to go there only one day a year. It is then, intriguingly, in the 4th century, that two gentile authors attest to this Jewish presence and note how the Jews would come up to the giant Foundation Stone and brush it with oil. Daily Jewish presence is renewed during the Persian occupation of the early 7th century and shortly afterward with the Arab Muslim occupation of 638, a presence that was pretty uninterrupted until the First Crusade of 1099. To even suggest we Jews are so dumb that we managed to forget our holiest site along the way since the AD70 Destruction is preposterous and offensive; and utterly arrogant when stated by non-Jews. So this tradition is rock solid, and none of the Christians who attempt to defy it can provide convincing answers that bear scrutiny to the question of when the Jews forgot the supposed original site.
If this is true, I believe God is making the way for the return of His Son. I trust the Word of God, no matter man's traditions.
i concur with you.
God,
God's decision is final so let's just prepare for His comimg
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Before concluding the Ophel was where the Temple stood please watch this: th-cam.com/video/l-k38U1-HLY/w-d-xo.html
A very thorough investigation. This is not a doctrinal issue. Praise God for investigative minds! His book Temple is really excellent. Do your own research, and praise God.
Incredible. May Yisra'El be blessed!
No question, it all started here, and it will all end here, Yerushalahim. Zion.
Shalom saMek Yerushalahim.
So happy to hear Dr. Frank Turek speak here😊
Maranatha!
Amazing! It makes so much sense!
The enemy is the father of all lies. He struggles to suppress the truth. That is how still there are peoples who don't believe in the Messiah, Yeshua, Jesus Christ.
This theory has always made a lot of sense to me, but what do we make of 2 Chronicles 3:1 "Then Solomon began to build the house of the Lord in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah, where the Lord 0:01 had appeared to David his father, at the place that David had appointed, on the threshing floor of Ornan the Jebusite."
This gave me goose bumps. Absolutely amazing.
Scripture, History and Archaeology solid work. THANK YOU! I'm amazed and so so glad I stuck with the video, at first it challenged what I knew, or thought I knew. Really it was just what I was told my whole like, just like 99.9% of people. Here in these last days all will be revealed. Glory to God! He's sooo amazing!
Be careful Sandy. Jesus is The Solid Work of Redemption - and we know it - The Truth will MAKE you FREE.
Great work, Oh I tried so hard to learn the difference between The City of David & City of Jerusalem!!! I believed there was a difference but many commentaries led me to assume they were the same place!!! Thank you so much ❤️ ❤️
excellent presentation!!
The Most High dwelleth not in Temples made with hands!
Aquila one day he will be with us in the New Jereslem and will be our ruler and King David will be our shepherd.belive the and the will be peace all the time there will be not haters and racists lier, theft, I could go on but only the rightous will be there believe that.
He dwell in our hearts now if we are truly bornagain believers but one day God is going to dwell in the New Jereslem we all sinners are destroyed form this land.. didn't you know that there will be one big happy family of all races and colors and greeds no more war, fighting, killing, it will be peace, peace, for ever more all bad people's will be in the lake of 🔥 for ever ever more. Believe that.
Finally Wise man
Every word of the Bible are Facts and truths! Great work guys. Keep up the good work. In my mind though. The Temple is Living in Heaven and will return again soon at the right hand of His Father.
Yes Sir. Stay Safe in the Facts Michael. Michael the archangel would agree with you.
This theory makes complete sense, especially when taken into account their data. So the Temple was in the City of David Yes, the Temple was in Zion Yes, the Temple was on mount Moriah yes at the lower slope, connecting to David's City at the Ophel and the area that would be in the area of Orlan's threshing floor. Tick tick tick.
Very well done
Its so obvious that the temple mount used to be Fortress Antionia,if you have seen one Roman Castrum you have seem them all,they are all built to the same specs.
I am just hearing this for the first time. I am excited. Jesus won't be long now. He is coming soon.
Maranatha!
BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES NOT TRADITION
Believe our SAVIOUR he said the Temple was the House of the LORD! And ALL history says it was on the same Temple mount of our days.
How can anything be a higher Authority than YAHSHUA Hamashiach. This is nothing but a distraction. Our SAVIOUR taught the we, the saints, are the Temple. Read you Bibles and lean not on the way of man for your understanding. Trust in the Holy Spirit, for HE will teach you all things! Those are the words of our Saviour.
You admit this is the Temple from the days of our SAVIOUR. Our SAVIOUR referred to it as the HOUSE OF THE MOST HIGH. Now, you lowly and sinful man wish to correct our SAVIOUR! Shame on you for distracting and confusing the new to salvation! Quit wasting your time and start witnessing about the Gospel!
@@dwh5512 Not ALL history! Josephus contradicts this modern idea as do other ancients. Who would know better what happened back then, eyewitnesses or modern people?
*Believe this scripture:*
2 Chronicles 3:1
_"Then Solomon began to build the temple of the LORD in Jerusalem on _*_Mount Moriah_*_ ..."_
This explains a lot!
Thank You.
Fantastic. LOVED this documentary!
I understand the feeling. Challenging tradition, even when the tradition is failing, is very difficult. God will have to reveal it to them sooner or later I have a feeling that people will say "We were so wrong all the time". This happens in church at times.When the truth of God's Word becomes alive and people are freed from the bondages of "traditions".
This just blows my mind. Thanks for posting.
Of course the Jews missed it...the location of temple....they also missed the Christ Messiah
Outstanding - I have yet to see Jerusalem but I will. I have always intended going to the temple mount but I will now make that a secondary visit after I have been first to the City of David
Amen
What a down to earth question, and down to earth answer: are you a Jew? No. It have no time to loose with you. Oil an vinegar don’t mix.
Claudio I don't understand why you have no time for her just because she no she wasn't a Jew because if you go to Heaven you all will be together there why not get a lone now it won't be no bull crap in Heaven that's for sure haha
They are better than you....they believe.
Didnt that warm your heart?
GLORY TO GOD.
What a truly ground shaking investigation!!!
Before concluding the Ophel was where the Temple stood please watch this: th-cam.com/video/l-k38U1-HLY/w-d-xo.html
God bless you 💞🎤🙏
I'm with you 100%, The Holy Bibles does NOT lie,.
dumb! it is written by a human!
Don’t be fooled. The “tradition” you refer to is fully supported by the Bible. This film is using part of Scripture, not all. The total of Scripture actually shows Mr. Cornuke to be badly misled.
@@RapidFire829 All books are written by humans. what's your point?So- where all so called science books
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@Dar Will
Stop worshipping dead Jew dead💀.
Wow just fantastic findings! Great job I believe 🙏 🙌 May God bless you ALL 🙏 ❤
Josephus had acted as a mediator for the Romans and, when negotiations failed, witnessed the siege and aftermath. He wrote:
Now as soon as the army had no more people to slay or to plunder, because there remained none to be the objects of their fury (for they would not have spared any, had there remained any other work to be done), [Titus] Caesar gave orders that they should now demolish the entire city and Temple, but should leave as many of the towers standing as they were of the greatest eminence; that is, Phasaelus, and Hippicus, and Mariamne; and so much of the wall enclosed the city on the west side. This wall was spared, in order to afford a camp for such as were to lie in garrison [in the Upper City], as were the towers [the three forts] also spared, in order to demonstrate to posterity what kind of city it was, and how well fortified, which the Roman valor had subdued; but for all the rest of the wall [surrounding Jerusalem], it was so thoroughly laid even with the ground
Well spotted Sir. He was a Witness - and although the Readings are long - they are well worth toiling through.
Fascinating for sure!
I believe that you are right Bro. Bob Cornuke!!
I'll be there this November... what a great blessing.
I have been taking people on tour to the True Temple in the City of David since 2005. We also show them the tomb of David and the crucifixion site. I have tried to share this with Chuck Misler for many years but never got past his secretaries. There is much much more to learn but no one wants to hear it.
I have also been to Noahs' Ark and many other places.
Joseph Dumond Sightedmoon are you with pilgrim tours?
Before concluding the Ophel was where the Temple stood please watch this: th-cam.com/video/l-k38U1-HLY/w-d-xo.html
Just finished "Golotha." Nice job brother
Thanks for your insight and research. Wish I could visit the City of David and the Gihon spring, the true site of the temple. As a kid I always wondered about the western wall and Jesus prophecy of no stone left upon another. Now I know the truth.
God will reveal all in his time...
He hides it from the wise and proud and reveals it to the pure in heart. The Prophet Messiah Christ said not one stone left. Simple.
Its such an interesting statement that at the time seemed dramatic but now seems (is) prophetic. Why make that statement in the way He did. He is accountable to all His creation to be exactly right in His judgment. And we will be judged on what He has revealed.
EXCELLENT VIDEO; very informative! Thank you Brother Bob Cornuke...........GODSPEED
I have news for them the two witnesses will tell them where it was built
What did the Roman historian Tacitus say about a "spring of never-failing water" at the temple in section 12 below?
The Jews
Book Five (1-13) of The Histories by Tacitus
11. So after encamping, as I have said, before the walls of Jerusalem, he paraded his legions in formation before the eyes of the enemy. The Jews, marshalled close under their walls, were in a position to venture further out if they were successful and had a place of refuge ready at hand in case of defeat. Titus sent against them cavalry and some cohorts in battle order, but the encounter was indecisive. Then the enemy gave ground, and for some days thereafter fought a succession of engagements just in front of the gates. Finally, repeated losses drove them behind the walls. The Romans then concentrated on an assault. After all, it seemed beneath them to wait for hunger to do its work on the enemy, and the troops actually asked to be allowed to risk their lives. Some did so because they had real courage, many from mere bravado and a desire for rewards. As for Titus, his imagination dwelt on Rome, wealth and pleasure: it would be long before these dreams were realized if Jerusalem were destined not to fall in the immediate future.
But the city occupied a commanding position, and it had been reinforced by engineering works so massive that they might have rendered even a flat site impregnable. Two lofty hills were enclosed by walls skilfully staggered and forming re-entrant angles designed to expose the flank of an attacker. At the edge of the crags was a sharp drop, and a series of towers dominated the scene, 105 feet high where the rising ground helped, and 135 or 120 feet high on the lower contours. (19) These presented an impressive appearance, and to the distant observer seemed to be on a level. There were further walls inside around the palace, and a conspicuous landmark was the lofty castle of Antonia, so named by Herod in honour of Mark Antony.
12. The Temple was like a citadel and had its own walls, which had been even more laboriously and skilfully constructed than the rest. The porticoes around it constituted in themselves an excellent defensive position. To these advantages must be added a spring of never-failing water, chambers cut in the living rock, and tanks and cisterns for the storage of rainwater. Its builders had foreseen only too well that the strange practices of the Jews would lead to continual fighting. Hence everything was available for a siege, however long. Moreover, after Pompey's capture of Jerusalem, fear and experience taught them many lessons. So taking advantage of the money-grubbing instincts of the Claudian period, they purchased permission to fortify the city, and in the days of peace built walls meant for war. Already the home of a motley concourse, its population had been swollen by the fall of the other Jewish cities, for the most determined partisan leaders escaped to the capital, and thereby added to the turmoil. There were three different leaders and three armies. The long outer perimeter of the walls was held by Simon, the central part of the city by John, and the Temple by Eleazar. John and Simon could rely on numbers and equipment, Eleazar on his strategic position. But it was upon each other that they turned the weapons of battle, ambush and fire, and great stocks of corn went up in flames. Then John sent off a party of men, ostensibly to offer sacrifice but in reality to cut Eleazar and his followers to pieces, thus gaining possession of the Temple. Hence-forward, therefore, Jerusalem was divided between two factions, until, on the approach of the Romans, fighting the foreigner healed the breach between them.
13. Prodigies had occurred, but their expiation by the offering of victims or solemn vows is held to be unlawful by a nation which is the slave of superstition and the enemy of true beliefs. In the sky appeared a vision of armies in conflict, of glittering armour. A sudden lightning flash from the clouds lit up the Temple. The doors of the holy place abruptly opened, a superhuman voice was heard to declare that the gods were leaving it, and in the same instant came the rushing tumult of their departure. Few people placed a sinister interpretation upon this. The majority were convinced that the ancient scriptures of their priests alluded to the present as the very time when the Orient would triumph and from Judaea would go forth men destined to rule the world. This mysterious prophecy really referred to Vespasian and Titus, but the common people, true to the selfish ambitions of mankind, thought that this mighty destiny was reserved for them, and not even their calamities opened their eyes to the truth.
We are told that the number of the besieged, old and young, men and women, amounted to 600,000. All who could bear arms did so, and more than their numbers warranted had the courage necessary. They displayed an inflexible determination, women no less than men, and the thought that they might be compelled to leave their home made them more afraid of living than of dying.
This, then, was the city and nation which Titus faced. Since a headlong assault and the element of surprise were ruled out by the lie of the ground, he proposed to employ earthworks and mantlets. Each legion had its allotted task, and there was a lull in the fighting while they pushed on with the construction of every conceivable device for storming Cities, whether invented long ago or due to the ingenuity of modern times.
They won't be here when the 2 witnesses appear.
The two witness already do.....they are the old and new testaments of the Bible.
@@whoelseeverdiedforyou1737 nope. I believe the 2 Witnesses are the Word of God and the People Of God. BOTH of which the AntiChrist Roman Emperors tried to wipe out, and BOTH of which came back to life!
They already have! The 2 Witnesses are the Word of God and the People Of God. 🙌🏼
Thank you Brother Robert...and as they say these days...Freakin' Awesome! Jesus' grace be multiplied unto you. Amen in Christ.
Do you really think the Romans would allow the Temple above or equal to their for?
No their fort would tower over the temple to show who was the boss and king.
Intriguing and very convincing. I’m not Jewish but had to visit Jerusalem a few years ago and made my way to the Western Wall thinking back then it was part of Solomon’s Temple which I’ve always wanted to visit. Now I guess I have to go back one more time! This video screwed me up! 😩😩😩
That wall is nothing more and nothing less than a retaining wall of the Temple Mount. As a Jew I have both logic and the rock solid Jewish tradition on my side that confirm it was the true location of the Holy Temples and that Cornuke's arguments are garbage. I sleep very well at night.
Outstanding video. I am convinced that the Solomon's temple was in Zion, the City of David.
The "renown biblical archaeologists" they rely upon to assert such drivel (Ernst Martin was a meteorologist who knew nothing about academic archeology and the same goes for Robert Cornuke) clearly have not studied Charles Warren, Eilat Mazar, Conrad Schick, Barclay and Willson. Dr. Martin's theory was disproved by the experts already in the early 1990's.
The Giḥon spring only fed the residents' needs for water. Conversely, multiple cisterns and water sources are found on the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount has over 20 cisterns and conduits which were plenty of water for the services (I have seen for myself their capped openings on Har haBayit) . One cistern could hold over 2 million gallons and another around 700,000 gallons. This is verified history.On top of this, Jewish records show that there was an aqueduct that brought water in abundance to the Temple Mt. from the Pools of Solomon at Etan near Bethlehem (not to be confused with the aqueduct that Pilot later built). Cornuke and his ilk really do not know what they are talking about.
The building of the Ophel south of the wall was actually the Akra which was built by Antiochus IV and destroyed by Shimon the Macabee. The City of David is not wide enough to place the 740 x 740 feet that made the 500 x 500 cubits of Temple Mt.
Bad scholarship by these people using Ernest Martin's book which was discredited a while back.
Ernest Martin is not a credible resource but Dr Benjamin Mazar, Dr. Eilat Mazar, Captain Charles Warren, Conrad Schick, Lee Ritmeyer and others are, and they all agree Mt. Moriah is the Temple Mount. By the way, the Fort of Antonia was around 40 cubits high on a high ground. The 10th legion only came to Jerusalem after the siege of Jerusalem and a cohort is 500-600 soldiers. According to Josephus the Antonia fortress was razed to the ground by the Romans in order to access the Temple Mt during the destruction of the 2nd Temple. This is only one of many points that I can give to why Dr. Martin's theory can not hold water and why Bob Cornuke is fooling thousands of gullible people like you, who do not know any better.
The headquarters for the Roman soldiers was in Caesarea by the sea. The Antonia was not new, it was a fort that was constructed by Solomon and then rebuilt by Nehemia and called the Baris. Herod later expanded the area by filling in the fosse found on the north of the Temple and it was according to Josephus 60 feet deep and 250 wide as protection for the Temple from the north. Herod filled it up and expanded beyond the 500 cubits starting from the offset stone called the Persian stone from Nehemia's time.
The experts of the City of David excavations and around the Temple Mt., who work daily to reveal the history of ancient Jerusalem, have found nothing to date that suggests the Temple Mt. was the Antonia fortress.
Anyway, Herod expanded to the north, west and south and those are retaining walls which were not part of the biblical measurements.
By the way, no credible recognized archeologist says the Temple was south of the Temple Mount. For example, all these archaeologists from the 1800's and 1900's who had access to the site said the same thing about the Temple being on the Temple Mt.: DeVougue 1864, Ferguson 1878, Warren 1880, Conder 1884, Schick 1896, Watson 1896, Mommert 1903, Dalman 1909, Hollis 1934, Simons 1952, Vincent 1954, Ritmeyer 1985.
And Josephus must be studied in unity with the Mishnah, Tosefta and the works of Conrad Schick topographical work of the Temple Mount. Josephus whom Martin and Cornuke both falsely quote, never said the Temple was in the city of David nor did he ever say an entire legion of Roman soldiers and their hangers on was permanently living in Jerusalem. He used the word "Tema" which means a lesser amount. Cornuke also doctors excerpts from the Jewish Bible so that they fit the claims he attempts to hawk. He has even lied that Israeli archaeologist Eli Shoukrun claimed that the Holy Temples stood in the City of David, whereas Shoukrun insists on the traditional site's location.
The Jewish tradition about the Temple Mount's location boasts anecdotal contiguity since the early AD 70's. Evidently, Josephus was aware of Jews who had begun returning daily to the Mount a mere 2-3 days after the Holy Temple had been sacked. This presence continues among others through early rabbis who ascended to it and was punctuated only for a few years in the Bar-Kokhvah revolt of 132-135 AD until the Byzantine era, when Jews were permitted to go there only one day a year. It is then, intriguingly, in the 4th century, that two gentile authors attest to this Jewish presence and note how the Jews would come up to the giant Foundation Stone and brush it with oil. Daily Jewish presence is renewed during the Persian occupation of the early 7th century and shortly afterward with the Arab Muslim occupation of 638, a presence that was pretty uninterrupted until the First Crusade of 1099. To even suggest we Jews are so dumb that we managed to forget our holiest site along the way since the AD70 Destruction is preposterous and offensive; and utterly arrogant when stated by non-Jews. So this tradition is rock solid, and none of the Christians who attempt to defy it can provide convincing answers that bear scrutiny to the question of when the Jews forgot the supposed original site.
Yes,these idiots praying to a Roman complex bobbing back and forth like a penguin just proves how silly all these man made religions are... simply myth and silliness... 🤪🙄🤪
@Greg Rhodes You could've saved yourself from being exposed as an ignorant atheist doofus if you hadn't run your keyboard on this matter. Firstly, Jews have never prayed to structures, but rather *at* structures to God. Secondly, if you had read my first comment you would've realized the Temple Mt. cannot be "a Roman complex".
As the matter stands, you and the Bob Cornuke crowd are the idiots.
Me too!
The City of David is not on Zion.
Awesome presentation. Thank you.
11:15 Nice to finally see a 3D model of this theory.. But, I can't imagine how the accounts of the siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD make sense in this layout.
right bcz titus had built an elevation to enter the walls that was extended by herald upto the mount
Makes more sense. Especially when the romans first entered the fortress.
Nothing beats the accuracy of the bible
This video misled the information regarding the Temple on the basis of the Gihon Spring which was a strong hypothesis of the speakers or the chief narrator of this video. If we read the Bible carefully in 2 Chronicles 3:1 it was clearly mentioned that Solomon began to build the House of the LORD in Jerusalem on Mount Moriah (hammoriyyah in Hebrew).
The Gihon Spring is on the southern slope of Mt Moriah
Where were you guys? I discovered you only today. Salam, Peace and Shalom from Jordan. God bless you and Jesus be with you. I want to ask you to come to Jordan and cover all the biblical sites that we have from the Old Testament and the New. This has Christianity erupted. Not too many people know that. Peace and Light.
Didn't Josephus write that the sanctuary of the temple, the east gate and the summit of the mount of olives all lined up perfectly east to west? That would seem to contradict this theory?
The Eastern Gate which is there today was built in the 5th or 6th century, and not there at the time of Temple. Any Biblical references (or those by Josephus) to an Eastern Gate would therefore be speaking of something which existed prior to the current gate, the exact location of which would be speculative.
@@jimalexander687 How would it be speculative in Josephus' case, since he was alive before and after it's destruction?
@@Gutslinger I didn't say Josephus was speculative. I said the exact location of that about which Josephus was speaking can only be speculative, as the gate which stands there today was built five or six hundred years *after* the gate which Josephus described. We have no way of knowing whether the present gate was built on the same location of the previous gate, which had been gone for half a millennia before the current gate was built.
Spot on Kotic1033. You can even see it from the Lutheran Tower that he spoke from. I've been there - tremendous panoramas. Well worth the climb of about 117 steps. It's all about "Being Inline With The Word of God"
Thank you Jesus!
This is all interesting. I did find it a curiosity that the "Wailing Wall" is still standing after 2000 years or more and considering Jesus's words that "not one stone will be standing upon another...etc." ir occurred to me that the Wailing Wall was obviously NOT part of the structures demolished. So the toppling of stones occurred with the Temple structure, not the Wailing (Western) Wall area. It makes more sense to consider that the Romans were
focused on destruction of the Temple grounds, not necessarily all of the surrounding structures.
The Roman General Titus would be proud if he could see that (fake) wailing wall all lighted up at night. Of course he would, it was his Roman fortress.
Yes it does make sense why would the Romans destroy their own fort hence the wall still stands today.
Amazing find❤️🩹
Dear All who believe Cornuke’s theory,
With some straight forward verses from the Bible (which is never wrong) we can easily see where the temple stood.
1. The first verse is 2 Chronicles 3:1. So we know that it was built on a threshing floor on Mount Moriah. Does Gihon spring run on this mount?
2. After building the temple, Solomon and the elders came to the city of David 1 Kings 8:1. So the temple was not in the city of David. Read specifically the term “bring up the ark”. So city of David was on a lower elevation than the temple.
3. Solomon’s coronation took place at Gihon where probably a building also stood. 1 Kings 1:33. Again note “bring him down to Gihon “. In verse 35 we read that “he shall come up after him that he may come and sit upon my throne “. So the place of Solomon’s coronation and David’s palace which is in city of David is not one. Gihon is lower than city of David. So Solomon’s coronation did not take place in the temple.
4. Solomon brought his wife, the daughter of Pharaoh into the city of David until he had made an end of building his own house and the house of the Lord. (So Solomon’s house and the Lord’s temple are not in the city of David!)
5. Temple was higher than Solomon’s palace- 1 Kings 10:5. Here we read about the “ascent by which he went up to the house of the Lord “.
6. King’s palace and the temple were close by such that noise from the temple was heard in the palace. 2 Kings 11:13. Athaliah heard the noise in the temple and came to it from the palace. Assuming here that she lived in the same Solomon’s palace which was built centuries ago.
With all the above it is easy for us to draw a map and overlay it on today’s Jerusalem map and locate the approximate area. It points to the place where Al-Aksa mosque stands. Norma Robertson’s theory is the only one which matches all the above statements from the bible.
Moreover, how will Cornuke explain Hezekiah’s tunnel? We know it started from Gihon and was cut into the city of David. If we assume his theory to be correct, did Hezekiah cut the temple? Why should Hezekiah try to channelise the water into the city if it was already inside the temple which is considered part of the city and not outside.
Cornuke’s confusion comes from an erroneous understanding of the word “Zion “. Let me explain.
There are 3 Zions in the Bible. So whenever you read this word, be careful to take the right meaning. First Zion is the city of David as mentioned straight forward in the bible. Second is Zion the former dwelling place of God in eternity. Psalm 132: 13. Psalm 50:2. (How can one call the dusty rocky hill as perfection of beauty and what is there for God to shine here?) Third, God is building Zion in New Testament church. When the Lord shall build up Zion, he shall appear in his glory. Clearly a future tense phrase meaning something in future. Read Revelation 14:1 to 5. This is the pure congregation of saints numbering 1,44,000 which is being built. At rapture, the Lord will fulfill this number and gather his church. So most quotes given by Cornuke actually refer to the third Zion which is spiritual. Read more about it in Psalm 87.
Finally Bible never mentions that temple was built on running water or Gihon. Of course I agree that water is needed for cleansing the temple. Read more about how water was brought to the temple from Norma’s theory.
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The threshing floor of Arunah. Moriah is NOTHING like a threshing floor! And there's this: th-cam.com/video/0KV36y7M8Kw/w-d-xo.html
That is a brilliant reply well thought out but how do you explain Acts 21:30 The whole city was aroused, and the people came running from all directions. Seizing Paul, they dragged him from the temple, and immediately the gates were shut. 31 While they were trying to kill him, news reached the commander of the Roman troops that the whole city of Jerusalem was in an uproar. 32 He at once took some officers and soldiers and ran down to the crowd. When the rioters saw the commander and his soldiers, they stopped beating Paul.
And again
In verse 40 After receiving the commander’s permission, Paul stood on the steps and motioned to the crowd. When they were all silent, he said to them in Aramaic..............
Bob's theory is that the fort was above the temple and that steps ran down to to the temple across as I recall 600 feet of land. So Paul gets thrown out of the temple and just outside the gate the mob try to kill him then the Romans run down from I presume the fort to save Paul then he speaks on the steps.
I'm not a scholar but I believe Jesus's words that no stone would be left one on top of the other which belonged to the second temple.
1. They are saying it does.
2. They talked about 1 Kings 8:1 at 6:23
3. Obviously Solomon's coronation didn't take place in the temple, because the temple wasn't built until after Solomon became king. I'm going to assume you meant "at the spot of the future temple".
4. That's a faulty conclusion. All it's saying is that they stayed in the City of David until he finished building his own house, the temple, and the wall surrounding Jerusalem. It doesn't state the location of his house or the temple in that verse, but merely that he was building them. As an example, "Bob stayed in New York City until he built his own house and an office building". From that phrase, we have no clue the location of Bob's house and office. They could both be in New York City, both be outside of it, or one be in and one be out.
5. Correct
6. All of those locations are within close enough proximity to hear the noise. There were hundreds of people clapping and saying "Long live the king!" and trumpeters.
They aren't saying that the Temple was built into the King David's fort, but rather in that vicinity.
Nice chunk of Study Grace. Congratulations - a real Berean attitude - wish and pray More had it. "The Scriptures can not be broken."
@@aldandrea I saw your comment only now. Whatever is said in Acts and whatever Bob tells us is more aligned to what I have said rather than what he is saying.
As per Bob, the fort stood on Mount Moriah. (Although Bible clearly tells us that the Temple was built on Mount Moriah). He reads Acts 21: 30 and thinks that the fort and the Temple were connected by steps. That is also correct. But how long was this corridor? Was the steps running from Mount Moriah all the way down to the city of David? If so what about the buildings in the Ophel area? He places the Temple in the city of David. Even if we assume that he places the Temple in the northern most edge of the city of David, still we will have a long corridor of steps. Was this really the case? The fort itself was built to protect the Temple and from invasions from the North. Having a long corridor doesn't provide such a protection to the Temple.
On the other hand, as per Bible I place the Temple on the southern edge of Mount Moriah where the Al Aqsa mosque is. This means still you have enough ground to the North and also on higher level than the Temple to place the fort. So the fort stood on the topmost part of Mount Moriah and the Temple in the southern edge which is at a lower level. Both were connected by steps and the corridor must have been much shorter than what Bob is talking about.
God will bless those that bless thee
Where did we hear this before? Traditions was the wise Leaders of the Temple stumbling stone. Giving ordinary believers all these man made rules & Traditions. Jesus told them that they were too tied up with traditions, & that hindered them from understanding his coming as prophesied all over the Torah. When someone puts anything above the Torah, then there is confusion & a loss of blessings. Twelve Apostles were picked for a reason. Very much explained in the new Testament. "Strangers will sit at Abrahams Table", & "they will take your place".
The third Temple will be built as prophesied in Daniel. Antichirst will reign from there, until Jesus returns to judge all. Jesus was a Priest & a King. First coming was a priest, Second Coming will be as a King.
We welcome all our Jewish Brothers & Sisters to join in worship, as our Jewish Messiah rules all the earth.
A true Monarchy established on Earth, once & for all.
And we all said AMEN!!!
So true! AMEN!
Great job.
Hand slaps forehead.....Of course it is in the City of David!!!!! This is brilliant!
The "renown biblical archaeologists" the revisionists rely upon to assert such drivel (Ernst Martin was a meteorologist who knew nothing about academic archeology and the same goes for Robert Cornuke) clearly have not studied Charles Warren, Eilat Mazar, Conrad Schick, Barclay and Willson. Dr. Martin's theory was disproved by the experts already in the early 1990's.
The Giḥon spring only fed the residents' needs for water. Conversely, multiple cisterns and water sources are found on the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount has over 20 cisterns and conduits which were plenty of water for the services (I have seen for myself their capped openings on Har haBayit) . One cistern could hold over 2 million gallons and another around 700,000 gallons. This is verified history.On top of this, Jewish records show that there was an aqueduct that brought water in abundance to the Temple Mt. from the Pools of Solomon at Etan near Bethlehem (not to be confused with the aqueduct that Pilot later built). Cornuke and his ilk really do not know what they are talking about.
The building of the Ophel south of the wall was actually the Akra which was built by Antiochus IV and destroyed by Shimon the Macabee. The City of David is not wide enough to place the 740 x 740 feet that made the 500 x 500 cubits of Temple Mt.
Bad scholarship by these people using Ernest Martin's book which was discredited a while back.
Ernest Martin is not a credible resource but Dr Benjamin Mazar, Dr. Eilat Mazar, Captain Charles Warren, Conrad Schick, Lee Ritmeyer and others are, and they all agree Mt. Moriah is the Temple Mount. By the way, the Fort of Antonia was around 40 cubits high on a high ground. The 10th legion only came to Jerusalem after the siege of Jerusalem and a cohort is 500-600 soldiers. According to Josephus the Antonia fortress was razed to the ground by the Romans in order to access the Temple Mt during the destruction of the 2nd Temple. This is only one of many points that I can give to why Dr. Martin's theory can not hold water and why Bob Cornuke is fooling thousands of gullible people like them, who do not know any better.
The headquarters for the Roman soldiers was in Caesarea by the sea. The Antonia was not new, it was a fort that was constructed by Solomon and then rebuilt by Nehemia and called the Baris. Herod later expanded the area by filling in the fosse found on the north of the Temple and it was according to Josephus 60 feet deep and 250 wide as protection for the Temple from the north. Herod filled it up and expanded beyond the 500 cubits starting from the offset stone called the Persian stone from Nehemia's time.
The experts of the City of David excavations and around the Temple Mt., who work daily to reveal the history of ancient Jerusalem, have found nothing to date that suggests the Temple Mt. was the Antonia fortress.
Anyway, Herod expanded to the north, west and south and those are retaining walls which were not part of the biblical measurements.
By the way, no credible recognized archeologist says the Temple was south of the Temple Mount. For example, all these archaeologists from the 1800's and 1900's who had access to the site said the same thing about the Temple being on the Temple Mt.: DeVougue 1864, Ferguson 1878, Warren 1880, Conder 1884, Schick 1896, Watson 1896, Mommert 1903, Dalman 1909, Hollis 1934, Simons 1952, Vincent 1954, Ritmeyer 1985.
And Josephus must be studied in unity with the Mishnah, Tosefta and the works of Conrad Schick topographical work of the Temple Mount. Josephus whom Martin and Cornuke both falsely quote, never said the Temple was in the city of David nor did he ever say an entire legion of Roman soldiers and their hangers on was permanently living in Jerusalem. He used the word "Tema" which means a lesser amount. Cornuke also doctors excerpts from the Jewish Bible so that they fit the claims he attempts to hawk. He has even lied that Israeli archaeologist Eli Shoukrun claimed that the Holy Temples stood in the City of David, whereas Shoukrun insists on the traditional site's location.
The Jewish tradition about the Temple Mount's location boasts anecdotal contiguity since the early AD 70's. Evidently, Josephus was aware of Jews who had begun returning daily to the Mount a mere 2-3 days after the Holy Temple had been sacked. This presence continues among others through early rabbis who ascended to it and was punctuated only for a few years in the Bar-Kokhvah revolt of 132-135 AD until the Byzantine era, when Jews were permitted to go there only one day a year. It is then, intriguingly, in the 4th century, that two gentile authors attest to this Jewish presence and note how the Jews would come up to the giant Foundation Stone and brush it with oil. Daily Jewish presence is renewed during the Persian occupation of the early 7th century and shortly afterward with the Arab Muslim occupation of 638, a presence that was pretty uninterrupted until the First Crusade of 1099. To even suggest we Jews are so dumb that we managed to forget our holiest site along the way since the AD70 Destruction is preposterous and offensive; and utterly arrogant when stated by non-Jews. So this tradition is rock solid, and none of the Christians who attempt to defy it can provide convincing answers that bear scrutiny to the question of when the Jews forgot the supposed original site.
@@ZviJ1 we'll find out soon....
@bearcubs9497 LOL If this delusion helps you cope with reality, go for it. It has zero effect on us in Israel anyway.
@@ZviJ1 it most certainly does.
@@ZviJ1 God will have His temple built wherever He wills it. This is a good thing. I personally don't think the site will be the mount. I think it'll be built in Shiloh. As I said, we'll soon find out.
Nicely put together video my friend
I think you have been right to say you have to follow what the Bible says and it will direct you to the correct place. From all the evidence presented it would seem that you are correct. If indeed we are in the "last days", it would make sense that these things are being revealed.
I'm convinced! But, he's right; tradition is hard to overcome.
When you open your heart to the world and love everything God has created The same way you love yourself God will open the heaven for you King David 7🔯שלום
This is very fascinating...