Recommended Multi-Channel Amplifiers for Home Theater?
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I run a stack of Crown XLI series. They're class A/B, weigh a ton and sound great. Over 300 watts per channel for $399. Lots of people use the xls series which is class D and love them too. I have a Monoprice Monolith on the way so we'll see if it sounds different or better.
How is the fan noise on those.
Damn that’s cheap. How is that possible? Why wouldn’t everyone go this route. There has to be a tradeoff someplace
How can you even hear with all that plastic??
Emotiva XPA- series. I own the XPA-5, sounds great, very reliable, doesn't break the bank.
I really like the Emotiva amps. Even the BasX provides a great value if you don’t need a ton of power
What is your system
Thanks for that information regarding the Monolith. I am looking later on getting a multichannel Amp and I have seen Monolith come up a lot. Hearing that its balanced power wise will likely put this on the list
It’s been rock solid in my setup
I cant decide if I should get the Monolith x7 200x7 and let the Denon AVR-4700H push the 4 channel Atmos or go with the Monolith x11 with 200x3 & 8x100. I do like the idea of having all 7 floor level speakers in uniform of having 200watts to each channel
I use 3 Behringer KM750 amps and might even expand to two more. They are solid amps and bought them off sweatwater for like $225 each. The cooling fan is one speed and has some people complaining about it, but my rack is 20ft away and isn’t any louder than my projector behind me. I like the industrial look of all those two channel amps stacked up!
There's also the Musical Fidelity M6x 250.7 amplifier that's very good too.
I run an OSD Nero XA3200 (lcr) paired with a Marantz 5015 and couldn't be happier.
Not over the top or "end game" but more than plenty for what I need.
I’m very impressed with my Monolith 7X for surround/Atmos use.
Awesome!
That's why I went with emotiva xpa 2 gen2 300x2 fir the two fronts. and xpa 5 gen 2 250x5 fir the bed layer and the bas x 4 fir the four atmos. I wanted more then 100 watts for the rear ,surrounds,back & center
Nice!
I find it interesting that audiophiles (as opposed to cinephiles) nearly universally claim there’s differences between amps (sometimes significant differences), yet home theater enthusiasts nearly unanimously claim they hear no difference.
Imho, there actually are some differences, but it’s mainly related to two things:
-noise floor
-transient response
We are very good at filtering out noise (at least to a point), so we may not notice a fairly significant difference in noise floor. Also, it’s difficult to do a direct comparison with matching volume levels.
Transient response can also be difficult to evaluate, and we have to acknowledge not all of us have the “golden ears” necessary to hear these distinctions.
Audiophiles also tend to be two channel aficionados and it’s easier to hear distinctions between amps, especially with high quality music (home theater content is often of lesser quality, though there’s lots of poorly recorded music also)
My thinking is it’s best to choose the quietest and most powerful amp possible, since sound quality suffers greatly when amps and speakers are pushed behind their reasonable limits.
I think it is because there is so much room correction going on as well as sound just being part of the experience. I am not so picky about home theater stuff as I am about my two channel. Then again my HT is nowhere the SQ of my two channel setup. That there is no difference in amps is some of the more incredible things I hear from "that side".
we need to get the new Monolith 81XX/82XX Hypex ncore amps for review !
It's only when I started a shield all my cables that I really noticed how much my noise floor had been reduced! Most people don't even realise unshielded cables are more to blame for noise than any amps or AVRs.
We’re you able to measure the noise floor? Curious how much difference it made.
Being 2-channel music lover... I've always being a stickler for unwanted noise, that's part of reason why I've use a audiophile grade power conditioner and when I moved to a AVR, still didn't have a problem with any kind of noise, it's only when I added surrounds and heights that I started to become aware of this signal noise noise (only faint but annoying) so obviously that was telling me it was the cables, mainly the cables of length. Got to remember unshielded cables act as antennas for attracting radio frequencies and the longer the cable the better the antenna! Probably explains why the noise floor was drastically reduced when ever I disconnected the heights and surrounds 🤔
Well anyway after I shielded all my speaker cables, my noise floor was approximately 50% less (no measurements, ears only) and then after I've shielded all of my HDMI cables and purchased some high-end shielded power cables the noise floor had been reduced by another 10 to 15%. I expected I was going to have to shield my ethernet cables as well but the noise floor has become so quiet the only thing I can hear is the fans coming from the freezer department of the fridge, which is obviously located in the kitchen🥳
I posted a short 3-minute 2-channel sound test video, and I think you should be able to view the power conditioner and cables.
But if you can't I'm running an arcam avr20 with matching 4-channel power amps...
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Mcintosh with audioquest cabling
I would love to add a MC257 or a MC8207 to my system but the price is quite high even if you work in the industry but one can dream lol
Emotiva a500 for the c, surrounds and Atmos. The LR is using a Moon 330A
Run the Emotiva XPA-5 GEN3 w/ Marantz SR7013 powering Definitive Technology ( Sandy Gross era ) BP7001 fronts and BP7002 Super Tower rears w/ Polk Reserve 400 Center..........music to my ears!
Did you hear a noticeable difference running the Emotiva XPA5 vs the onboard Marantz amplification?
@@DTC12 Absolutely/ immediately
I use Audiofonics nc252 hypex modules - dead quiet and 200 into 8 ohms handle 2Ohm loads.
I've had 3 amps: Crown XLS1002, OSD XA5180 and a Buckeye amp with NP252 and NP502 modules.
The buckeye amp is the only one completely silent. And it's lightweight! The OSD amp sounds great, with little noise but it's super heavy at 50+ pounds for a 5 channel amp. The crown amp was also good but way too high of a noise floor for my liking (granted it was the entry level model).
For me, moving to class D with those hypex modules, just for the weight/size reduction alone is worth it.
Always liked NAD
Nad M28 7x200 around $5000
Lab Gruppen (SWE), LEA Professional (US), Martin Audio (UK), Yamaha (JPN), Blaze Audio (DNK), FBT (IT)
I have monolith 7 channel for Dolby atmos , Emotiva 5 channel for surround speakers and parasound 3 channel for front … This make any speaker sound full potential
Solid setup
With Marantz and Denon pushing prices so high, I'm hardly surprised not to see them even as a part of the conversation. I know Youthman used the 8015 (or 8012) to power his full system and that cost $3,200 back then. Sadly it's $4k and comes with a 3 year warranty instead of the 5 years that Monolith and Emotiva offer.
That was several years ago. I have the AV7706 with Monolith 11X
@@Youthman Yes that why I used past tense.
Solid choice!!! how much does the 11X weigh?
For me, I don't own a dedicated home theater, I have 2 living room 5.1 systems that are used for all kinds of media but they get so much use, it's not even funny.
I'd love to see an audiophile grade 7.1 in the $2,000-$2,500 range with a toroidal transformer from Monolith and Emotiva that can fit in my cabinets (that last part is very important😁)
I'm getting by with several Marantz 8000 series AVRs which are epic especially bi-amping the front Left and Right.
Btw, I know you've tried a lot of things but have you bi-amped?
Good day Mr. Y!
On another subject, I need your advice with speaker wires please... Up to 20 feet, it's not too difficult to choose a necessary wire gauge for speaker cables... it's more the long runs that are questionable. Therefore, I need to install a 65 to 75 foot run to my rear height Atmos speakers... is 12 gauge OFC cable sufficient for my in-wall installation? Is 10 AWG better for this length or will 10 gauge diminish the quality of sound on the highs (mid-range and tweeter)... your advice would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards, Perry
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B&k HTA 7.150 is hand's down some of the best sound quality ever made in it's price range. I got 2 of them running with my 16 channel pre pro and i could not ask for anything more it's insane crazy good 💪🎬
I had a B&K 200.7 many years ago.
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One thing that was not mentioned with the Pro amps opposed to home theater amps is operational noise. I have my home theater equipment in my actual theater, Pro amps have fans that produce a lot of noise, some mods can be done to reduce this but this is the main reason why people don't go Pro/Commercial if they have the equipment nearby to their listening position. However with those fans comes greater power output as it can cool the amps more efficiently. If you have your equipment in your room and not in another room going non-pro is most likely going to be the way to go.
We mentioned that at another point during the podcast.
@@Youthman Got ya, just wanted to make sure people knew that. Great work on the podcast snippets being posted. I love this format.
Thank you kindly. I figured not everybody has the ability to watch an hour podcast or an hour and a half podcast so chopping them up into segments may provide additional viewers the opportunity to hear the information
you can check the D-Sonic too pretty good
I have heard of them but do not have any experience with them personally
@@Youthman well build and solid the Support is also good ,i have the old 3 channel still rocking .
What do you all do for unbalanced to balanced connections between the receiver and pro amps? I have an older Marantz SR7007 and use a Crown XLi 3500 for my two Dayton 18” MK3’s and use a Blue Jeans isolation transformer to keep out the hum from the different ground potentials, but if you have 7 channels, that’s a lot of isolation transformers and wondering if there is a better solution besides a new receiver with balanced(xlr) outputs?
Can you get the basx a4 for the dolby atmos make a video on how god it is
LCR - Hypex is a king of power & clarity, or hi-end A/B class amp (depends of your money)
Surrounding - that is a big problem for all i think: low cost amps - not enough power.
Subsystem - only professional amplifiers or their replicates from China (we all know that we are talking about Sinbosen etc)
Just curious if you would be able to hear a difference in clarity between two amplifiers.
@@Youthman There are two primary ways that I can tell the difference between amps. 1) If a drummer hits a snare hard or a gun is fired in a scene, does it physically impact you? It's how quick the leading edge of a mid-bass note hits. Slew rate is a pretty good indicator of a quick reacting amp. 2) How well does it control lower frequencies? Does a kick drum stop immediately or does the woofer continue to move a bit longer? You may have a hard time picking it up with single notes, but it blurs the sounds that come immediately after it. If you are rolling off your home theater speakers, it may not come into play.
Secondary ways would be high frequency roll off or mid boost from a tube, and a bad power supply that just sounds a bit like an edgy MP3.
Thanks Greg. My ears certainly are that well tuned to be able to pick out those details.
Hey Michael
Starke sound A8.350 8 channel power power amplifier
Monolith 7x without a doubt.
Monolith 100%. All the way
Whats diff between BasX series and Gen3.. What would be the advantages for the premium
Complete specs of both amps are on their website
And?
My bad. The TH-cam app doesn’t always show which video you are commenting on.
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Hi Michael Stevens!!!
I Perfer Pro-amps Myself Because They Have More Safety Features and More Power and Ectrecro-voice and QSC Make A 4 and 8 Channel Poweramps and the Reason I Use Pro-Poweramps Because If one Channel goes out you can Grab another Poweamp!!!!
Also Alot of the QSC Poweramps Can Be Bridge Down to A 4 Ohm Load and my QSC RMX 2450a Poweramp Can Be Bridge to 4 ohms at 2400 watts to Powered My Dayton Audio 21 inch Vortex 2000 Watt Speaker!!!!
And I Use 7 Pro-Audio Poweramps to My Home Theater System With My Denon AVR -X3600H Reciever!!!!
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200 watts is enough to push those JTR’s?
Your ears will give out before the amp or speakers do. Keep in mind, they are 101dB with 1 watt.
@@Youthman So do you run the jtrs at say -5 or -10 to balance the system since they are so efficient versus the surround and atmos speakers?
LCR is set to -12dB, surrounds are set to -8.5dB
JTR are 101dB, Klipsch RS62 II are 97dB sensitivity
@@Youthman Wow 101db is insanely high efficiency, I can imagine if you ran surrounds with a much lower efficiency say 85db you would really have to push the jtrs down and pull the surrounds up a ton to get it balanced
Basx a4 is that god for dolby atmos
100%. I reviewed the A3 and it’s a fantastic budget amp. Check out my review
HI if you are going to team up with others make sure they know what there talking about. crown doesnt make 7 channel amplifiers, Any one that likes crown amps is a cheap DJ with a rack of 15 amps and crapy speakers
Hi, if you are going to criticize someone, you might want to learn how to spell crappy, learn the difference between their and there and realize that anyone isn’t two words. Just sayin’