Update: as of 25th January, Mojang added a new use for diamonds in armor trimming! Corrections: - Iron has existed as a trade for as early as 1.3, however it existed as 8 - 9 irons for 1 emerald. It was update 1.14 which reduced it to 4 irons, so technically they still made iron really good for trading in 1.14. - As pointed out by "Hmmm ok" in the comments, diamonds were also added into Ancient Cities in 1.19, I tend to forget 1.19 existed sometimes. - Players learning how to strip mine, y = 11/12 and getting better at finding diamonds also reduced their specialty. Forgot to mention this by the end. - "Iron farms were created to keep up with the DEMANDS" not the supply. I got them mixed up 🥴 - Yes, Mending affected diamonds too, Mending played a huge part in reducing the impact of diamonds since it removed any need to get more diamonds now that your equipment were permanent. A future video will be made commenting on that!
@@groveri2 I don't think soo.. If mending doesn't exist you will constantly need to recreate and enchant your tools and armor and. With mending we can get a final equipment.
I remember when gold was absolutely hated, but that was when people ignored the fact that it could be used for things other than tools and armor, and now it is very valuable for golden apples.
If one played nether survival, one realized that gold did work 'enough' that it was common that when one finally was able to returned to the OW one would be clad in all or mostly all gold. Interestingly (and unrelated), gold is also the most enchantable armor and with a little tweaking it could have been a choice between durable diamond and enchantable gold as the top tier.
@@crashwave299 Yes as I said it would require retweeting to have done that. Perhaps more durability or higher levels of unbreaking and other stuff available only for Gold.
For me its the other way in reverse lol. Diamonds is a chore, netherite gives me a way better dopamine rush then what diamond used to give me before Mojang nerfed diamonds so bad.
@@simonantoska9581 I am digging the nether to find ancient debris it seems totally pointless as I used 2 diamond pickaxes just to find 2 debris and 2 more are to be found.
as a veteran minecraft player, since the beginning till now, i'm so pleased and satisfied every time i get diamonds, because they are like such a treasure for me, even in these newer versions they've stayed in my mind as something of value.
Same! I play more casually, so I'm stuck at Iron tools/armour for *AGES*, so finding diamonds is still a big event for me. I rarely get to a full stack, since I mostly focus on building instead of caving, and I rarely use automatic farms. I do everything manually and I use villager trades sparingly. Automation, for singleplayer at least, sucks the fun out of the game in my opinion.
One time in...1.16? My brother invited me onto a server with his kids. I saw their base, and its basement. About four chunks or so excavated down to the 30s. Using stone tools. Because iron was too rare. And they had a pretty terrible iron farm running. ... I built a villager trading farm and destroyed that server's economy inside a week. I learned a lot about the value of NOT building infrastructure.
Survival is creative now. Fun Fact: back in alpha versions, there was so little iron in the world and tools had less durability, so that if you mined for iron with iron pickaxes at the optimal mining level, you lost iron. You had to use either diamond or stone tools.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 bro... survival is not like creative at all, I don't get why the minecraft community is so toxic and hate the game so much. If you want to mine iron for hours, play a different game.
@@50upss The people who "hate the game" are the ones who want to trade with villagers for an hour to get everything with no exploring or resource collecting and then automate everything so the game plays itself.
Even in the new versions I still feel that rush of dopamine when finding diamonds, more than netherite, they still hold great value to me as a player since 2012
I think something you missed is the addition of mending. Diamonds went from something you needed to repeatedly mine for to stop your gear breaking, to something you only needed to get once and let mending take care of your gear
Yep, I forgot to mention that as well, they made tools too permanent and as such made diamonds less needed since you can get like a full stack and never have to mine any more once mending is unlocked.
@@Hi_Im_o2 I never understood why making tools too expensive to repair is even a mechanic, should just be a flat resource rate such as 3 diamonds to repair a pickaxe. Items eventually becoming too expensive to repair in turn makes mending a requirement for enchanted gear.
No new diamond recipes was a terrible negligence from Mojang, but I think the worst part was adding diamond armor and tools to villagers' trades. You don't need to go mining to make diamond stuff, just cure a bunch of zombie villagers until you can just trade them as if nothing with no limits. The same goes for enchantments from trades and how woodland mansions went worthless the trip since you can get tons of undying totems from raids. All of this is destroying what Minecraft means.
@@OnlyNeedJuan Mending, villager trading, and the dozens of existing farms mean that multiplayer gets flooded with materials that have no out as gear is effectively immortal. The servers i checked are hyperinflated to the point of ridicule, diamonds are near worthless and so are supposedly rare stuff like totems/enchants, and anything that can be farmed if not afkfarmed/autoclicker. The people who though armour trims would somehow fix this do not realise it only meant people will only make the sets they want once and those will last forever, effectively being a one time purchase.
@@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX depends on how you play and what your goals are I personally havent stip mined for diamond gear etc... basically ever. However, i still get dia gear either though villager trades, using the create mod, or by making redstone stuff in servers for a small fee. Diamonds ARE still good as currency after all, especially in modded minecraft where usually theres some renewable source of iron.
@@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX actually no, because most of them spawn under the ground, where you cant ser unless you have he patience to Mine alot (At least for me It was like that, i even downloaded a mod with a Compass that show me where the ores are and almost ALL of them were inside walls or the ground)
Yeah, back when having a diamond block house was the most in your face flexing, it was pretty good times. Nowadays its just a way for minecraft builders to trash on you for building an ugly house.
They are still viewed as a sign as wealth and power, I don't know what you're talking about. But yeah, maybe they became a bit less valuable with the introduction of netherite.
@@binkus_ forget the introduction of netherite. Netherite didn’t make diamonds more common or take away from their utility. What cheapened diamonds was the armorer, toolsmith and weapon smith master equipment trades, as well adding diamonds to too many structure loot tables. Netherite is prestigious without taking away from diamonds prestige. The worst it does is overshadow it somewhat.
Yeah. And most of the gear we find made of diamond is negligible because one usually has a standard set already. And definitely enough resources to recreate it in an event of falling to the void.
It says a lot that in the Hermitcraft server, the primary use for diamonds is as currency, not building material--and they keep having to reset the economy because of diamond-glut.
i actually love that tho. it’s rare , but not too rare. it’s more effective than iron and gold and has way more uses than emerald. its like the perfect currency! and if i’m not mistaken, they do trade netherite sometimes
@@EperkeDashh especially with all the methods of iron golem farms. if that’s what you meant by mass farms then i agree. stuff like that is textbook to the hermitcraft members now lol
@@deadinside44123 diamond has wayyyyy less uses than emeralds, trading is probably one of the most underrated aspects of the game. You can get an insane variety of useful items (including diamond gear) almost instantly
The one thing that softens the netherite blow is the fact that you still need diamond gear to actually put netherite to use, the diamond gear isn't outright circumvented with the new ore.
I was looking for this comment. Despite the general lack of uses for diamond, and ease of finding it, I still continue to go on occasional diamond hunts whenever my supply dips below 20. I wanna be able to remake any lost gear in the event of untimely death.
I once had to retire my diamond armor and go back to iron since I was going through a set every couple hours, not because I was going to run out, but because I needed them as currency to buy buttloads of lava buckets for my smelters on the server I was on. It was such a rush realizing that diamonds were no longer the end goal, and that by utilizing their worth to others I became one of the bigger powers on the server, at least for a small time. Was kinda neat since I was a carrot farmer beforehand
It also feels like Mending made diamonds feel obsolete as you progress in your world. You use a fair amount of them in the beginning in order to make your gear, your enchantment tables etc, but eventually you already have everything you needed diamonds for. Your gear doesn't break because of Mending, so in the end any new diamonds you get are just kind of useless. You turn them into blocks to save storage space, and eventually you start using them for the most random things because your chest with diamond blocks is almost full
Mending kinda ruins the game for me. Constantly maintaining gear through levels and repairs is a better game play loop imo. Keeps everything relevant without cannibalizing content like mending does
My Minecraft method is now: grow paper, capture librarian, trade up to name tag, make iron farm, capture weaponsmith, armorer and toolsmith, trade iron for emeralds, trade emeralds for diamond tools and armour. I make buckets and find surface lava to make portals. Never need to mine until I locate the end Portal.
@@Ethan-tm8dj Yeah, for a game called Minecraft, I sure do next to 0 mining nowadays. You make 1 trip down to gather a small inventory and then you never go underground again. Kinda sad.
I stopped playing minecraft long ago, but have always continued to keep up with it by watching videos. You know how many minecraft parodies included diamonds in any sort of way? So many. If anything they're a big part of minecraft's identity back then.
I definitely considered adding those songs in the video actually, but felt I couldn't add them without breaking the flow too much with like "mine the diamonds" from tobuscus LMAO
@@XayXayYTDiamonds are like the popular kid in high school with a lot of friends but suddenly high school was their peak and they eventually lost all their friends and they never went up with a glow up
@@dragoneater2008_ Theres some reasons why one might, but altogether most of them are just don't have the time anymore and stuff like that. I've stopped a lot of times and for me it mostly boils down to not having any friends or getting motion sick.
@@TFrills i made sure not to waste my iron pickaxe at stone because if i did, i might find diamonds but never have any iron pickaxe while there was so many iron in caves, i might have watched a _little_ too much creepypastas and never went in the caves
We can't forget that Netherite basically took the role of diamonds by being the hardest stuff to acquire, while being the most broken material to use for equipment
Netherite didn't really took the role of diamonds. It simply make them better. Upgraded them. They are as needed as before... well actually not as much as before but MORE.
@@Weird_guy47 you can explode things with anything you want, you're still going to get more diamonds per hour than ancient debris on average. That means it is still the hardest material to get, even though it might not be hard for you.
I really don't think netherite caused diamonds to go down in popularity, I think Mojang realized diamonds had already gone way down and thus they introduced a new material that would, as you say, fill the role that diamonds had lost.
@@dominusalicorn3684 true. Back in the old days, diamonds were REALLY hard to get. Enchants were rare, repairs wernt infinite, and you had to put in manual effort to get diamonds, or get lucky with a villager, who traded completely random shit. And if you did villager trading for dia stuff chances were you got garbage. Nowadays dia gear can be farmed using villagers with the right block near them, and be reset just as easy. Not only that, but lots of structures nowadays have a chance to have diamonds in them, making it so you dont even need to mine for them. I do want to make clear that im not picking a side on wether diamonds were better in the past or not, but they are less rare than they used to be. I will pick a side with iron though, as it has seen the reverse of whats happening to diamonds. Iron nowadays has a LOT of uses. From minecarts and rails to pistons and hoppers, there is a LOT of use for iron. however there is just one renewable way to get iron, and its something that mojang doesnt actually want: the iron golem farm. mojang has tried for years to make iron golem farms useless, from making the golem drop nuggets instead of iron bars (thats why nuggets exist btw) to making it tedious. they REALLY dont like it... however, there isnt really a alternative anymore. if you want enough iron to fuel your base during normal gameplay, or god forbid you wanna automate something, you REQUIRE a iron farm. theres no alternative in the base game. sure there have been things that increase iron yield in the base game, however those options dont actually fix the problem. and sure, there are mods, but if you need mods to fix a problem that has existed for years now theres a bigger problem that has to be dealt with.
i think one thing you're forgetting about diamonds' demand is that before the grindstone (and before enchanted books especially) if you got a bad enchant on your tool while trying to get a maxed out one, you had to make a new one
crafting two pickaxes together would reset the enchantments, but you're still right. The grindstone made it so that you didn't have to pay three diamonds to try an enchantment again. Villagers also make enchantment tables completely pointless because you can just pick what enchantments you want now.
Playing minecreft recently I definately feel like the villagers update completely trivialized finding resources. The ideal strategy for a hardcore worlds is to find a village as soon as possible and trade for all your equipment. You don't need to even step foot in a cave or dig down until your are searicng for an end portal.
But, on the long run, going down in caves and actually getting lost and only getting out when you are bursting with resources is funny and helpful, because, you wouldn't need to worry too much for a good chunk of time.
This is super underrated. By the way, I don't exactly get what you mean by 'not special anymore'. Finding diamonds is one of the best feelings I get from Minecraft, especially when I've been mining deepslate for 10 minutes with an iron pickaxe and I suddenly stumble into a vein of 8 diamonds.
I'm glad that diamonds are still one of the best experiences for you my dude, and this video isn't meant to take that away from you. My point was that it isn't special anymore because it lost what made it so important at the early stages of the game. You no longer need it for diamond tools when trading exists and you no longer need it for enchantments when... well trading exists again. It also no longer gives that excitement since it's now less rarer than ancient debris. So in a way, it's a bit of a nostalgic lens, it doesn't feel as awesome as the first time you mine diamonds and with the game being updated more and more, it feels less and less awesome. But my point is that Mojang could give diamonds a new recipe or new use in future updates to make it interesting again, especially for long-time players. That aside, I'm glad the video was enjoyable to you my friend!
@@XayXayYT I think it might also have to do with the fact that any publicly watched server ever uses diamonds... basically like cash. It's rare and non renewable. Meaning there's no automatic method to getting a ton of diamonds, so it acts as a stable currency. This is why mojang doesn't add to diamonds. If there were more resource sinks for diamonds, earning diamonds to spend in servers would become more difficult. In survival, yeah diamonds don't mean much. Once you got them, they're pretty much there for you to flex with. But on servers, you're constantly trying to make diamonds to buy blocks in bulk to ease the block gathering process.
@@WhatIsMyPorpoise ah, honestly that's a good point. I suppose servers using diaminds as a form of currency could've made Mojang more hesistant to add new uses.
Idk, I play a lot of modded Minecraft admittedly in older version but diamond is like a mid tier ore compared to some of the other ores. Yet diamonds are still a nice surprise for me. Also kinda unrelated but screw the combat update :)
Three decent ideas to bring diamonds back to their initial status. First one as mentioned in the video, rails are slow. Powered rails are slightly faster, but some type of diamond powered rails should be significantly faster, potentially faster than elytra. Requiring them for long distance consistent transportation. Second is filtered hoppers. The name says it all. It would just be a hopper with a diamond in it that can only allow certain items to get through. Third are drill blocks. Blocks that break the block in front of them when activated with redstone. Has durability like an anvil and revolutionizes many farms. All of these are blocks that could be used for complex builds that progress the player further with the more diamonds you have
4th idea. Diamonds for ENCHANTED golden apples. Because you cannot farm diamonds, it brings back the importance of going out and mining for the raw diamond. Using a golden apple, just surround it with 8 diamonds and boom, you have the most legendary and best food in the game. Not only that, but it brings back the status symbol as if you have a stack of these, it means you had to get 8 stacks of diamonds! Not exactly easy.
@@howardbaxter2514 i think 6 diamonds and 2 blocks is more balanced, because 8 diamonds is essentially the same as finding one diamond vein with fortune 3
I don't think diamonds will ever go back to the way they were way back when in Minecraft, the game has changed, deal with it. As some other people have pointed out in the various comments, netherite has taken the place of diamonds and at some point down the road something is likely going to take the place of netherite.
I don't think Diamonds need consistent sinks, though it wouldn't be a horrible idea to make Diamonds even rarer, since mending exists, and you only need to make one set of tools and armour to be set for life (until you die), rather than constantly having to replenish it after they break.
You forgot to mention one more thing: Ancient Cities. While starting my hardcore survival playthrough I managed to find an ancient city and successfully looted it (well, partially. Almost died to the warden) and i had enough diamonds to craft an entire set of tools and a chestplate Edit: Also I found 2 god apples
@@XayXayYT I thought I was the only one who forgot 1.19 existed. Also, I feel like after 1.17, the Minecraft updates felt forgettable to me due to it being minimalistic, but like I said, maybe it is just me.
AC's are weird as the warden damage bypasses armor, and is meant to avoid instead of kill, so if you can get into one early game you have about the same chance that a well equipped player has. This means one can quickly acquire high end gear. Unquestionably a hail Mary approach but when it works it works well and can get one deep into the game progression very early and bypass a lot of the stages.
@@XayXayYTFunny thing is if your lucky enough you can find the whole armor and tool set without using any extra diamonds. If you can find all the gear then you’ll basically have a stack of diamonds from both ores laying around and of course from chests.
It’s wild to watch this because I recently went from playing the latest version (1.20) to playing on a 1.8 server and suddenly the rush of finding diamonds came right back to me. It really does feel dependent on the version, and it was made expressly clear to me the difference when I hopped from a superflat world where I easily traded for all my diamond gear to an anarchy server where diamonds are a resource you had to protect at all costs
Yep! Honestly this video was a big analysis of power creeping at its finest, it's something that aspiring game creators have to pay attention to moving forward
Another thing you forgot to mention in the "players got better" section is how players have developed strats to get the most diamonds possible. Mining at Y 11 or 12, the Lapis trick (both of which were overturned in 1.18, but the most efficient level is now Y -57 or so), and crawl mining have all made diamonds way less time-consuming to get if you were looking for them. Of course, this is only one of Minecraft's many flaws.
@@XayXayYT Thanks! Not to mention there's nothing more infuriating than realizing the best way to get resources is to mindlessly break blocks, rather than exploring the caves.
idk why, but I feel like strip mining in Beta was more fun and enjoyable than modern strip mining. It felt like there was a mystery to it for some reason.
All of the servers I make with my friends get cut short and I think it is because of villagers. I will come up from the mines with a few diamonds and my friends will have full diamond gear by staying at their base and using villagers. Diamonds are viewed now as a basic set of armor because you can get an infinite amount using villagers. Instead of being worried to die with your diamonds, you know you will just get another full set almost instantly. Instead of risking it in the mines, you get more value from staying inside. Instead of mining (which I find enjoyable) you grind with villagers and use glitches to get nearly the best gear.
Honestly yeah. This is why I prefer lore SMPs now over normal let’s plays when watching YT. It’s not fun watching a TH-camr just trade for anything they would need and build mega bases. It was cool watching them work for enough resources to build a basic base that could cover an island. Modern Minecraft is too easy and it’s become more of a platform to create content with instead of the content it’s self.
I think another thing that made diamonds less fun to get is the new deepslate layer/ore distribution changes they made. Before, you could mine through stone easily, finding other ores and interesting cave systems along the way, but now there’s the slower to mine through deepslate and basically the only ores you can find at the best levels are diamonds, redstone, and the occasional gold and iron if you get lucky. It makes strip mining more tedious than it once was in my opinion
It was a double edged sword change I'd say, it made strip mining less effective which encouraged players to explore caves to find them. So players like me who didn't like strip mining loved the change since it made diamonds more interesting to find, but it made players who just wanted to get diamonds and prefer strip mining to lose out on their favourite method.
In addition, caving has also become a huge pain. Caverns are so large now that you often end up with 20+ paths to follow, which sounds cool until you realize just how much surface area you have to light up. Even if you don't have a bunch of paths to follow, there are often massive caverns that would take stacks of torches to fully mob proof. On top of that, diamonds have reduced air exposure, meaning when you're caving you're constantly thinking about how much more you could probably find if you were strip mining, and you already stated the problems with that.
@@themadkat3374 in a game about mining, I'm surprised subnautica has a better mining system with ways to backtrack easier than MINEcraft. The worst feeling is getting lost in a cave with no choice except to dig straight up
After the 1.18 update, diamonds became obscenely common. You could go into a cave with a fortune 3 pick and 0 diamonds and come out with a stack or more diamonds.
Honestly, while that did affect diamond's rarity, I find the rework of diamonds in mines to be better overall because I find strip mining to be really boring. But they should've followed up 1.18 with a new recipe for diamonds to give player something to use all these diamonds on.
@@Mxrdum 1.17 did nothing to diamonds because it was not the update that added caves and the lower world, just some new blocks. No ore spawning was changed. 1.18 added the caves and low world. That means that when you go into a low cave, you have thousands of blocks being exposed to your eyes. They did add a limited air exposure rule, but that is negligible when you have that many blocks that you can see that can be diamond. In addition, the rule does not apply when you see diamonds in an aquifer. And finally, they changed ore mechanics so that diamonds can spawn even more frequently in the low negatives of your world than they could spawn before 1.18. All of that happened in 1.18 not 1.17. Lol sorry I wrote an essay trust me I do have a life...
Villagers destroyed their value. Get some farmers and a pumpkin press, and then a city full of toolsmiths and armor smiths and you never need to mine diamonds ever again.
I think the main reason why diamonds started to fall off was because they were never given any new uses up until smithing templates. For a long time now, they were just used for tools, enchant tables, and jukeboxes.
@@YaoGuy.Official Not that crazy, early real life jukeboxes uses diamonds so it's a cool fun fact if anything AND jukeboxes are purely vanity blocks anyway
I think one thing worth mentioning that kept diamonds valuable for me is the fact that you can only break obsidian with a diamond pickaxe, so this to me was the only way I could get to the nether other than using buckets which I didnt know how too use and its use in the enchanting table meaning I could get Fortune and looting which were my favourite enchantments, also you can only mine netherite with a diamond or netherite pickaxe which is another use for diamonds
For a basic 10 block nether portal, build upwards and place water on one of the top 2 obsidian positions, then just place lava around it. As for enchantments, librarians kind of made it easier, since you don't have to cycle through multiple bad ones on an enchanting table.
@@XayXayYTahah so diamonds are even more useless than I thought lol thanks this is helpful, I might have a go on minecraft again, its lost its magic for a while now it just dosent feel the same for some reason, I hope I can get that feeling back one day, I think the new updates have made it feel too different from its original beauty, although the updates are really good im definitely not hating on the owners of minecraft, especially the nether update that one was my favourite
I think it really is a gateway to the nether because even though you can make a nether portal without diamonds, you're going to need diamond armor in case a ghast decides to sneak up on you and ruin your day.
@@beez1717 I totally agree, also you can only mine netherite with a diamond or netherite pickaxe so that gives them another important use, diamonds are still useful just not as precious as the early days of minecraft
I remember when I was really young, I found diamonds in a Minecraft world of mine and flexed about it the next day. No matter how the sands of time wither their importance, they will always have a special place in my heard that neither iron, gold or netherite could ever hope to replicate.
I think the reason that they never added more recipes for diamonds is probably because they wanted everything that diamonds don’t already use that they could’ve used to be easily accessible. They never intended for people to get stacks of diamond blocks, they intended for you to get diamond armour and enchantments and then never mine for diamonds again.
I'd have to disagree though, if they never intended for me to mine diamonds after armour and enchantments then mending didn't need to be added to the game though no?
@@XayXayYTIt could be argued that mending was added so that diamond tools/armor will never need other diamond replacements. A better example of your point can be easier shown with crafting recipes which require diamonds, even then there’s not many of them.
Yeah, but pretty much every recipie including diamonds you can buy from villagers. Whenever I play with my friends, we get fletchers to get emeralds from wood, then we level up armorsmiths, toolsmiths, and weaponsmiths to buy Diamond stuff for less than half a stack of emeralds, this isn’t even accounting zombie trades.
@@XayXayYT mending actually proves the exact opposite of your point. That the intent for diamond tools is to be crafted once, enchanted and kept forever.
Yep, rather than try to make them compete with netherite, give diamonds a new use that's exclusive to them like shields with iron or golden apples with gold
Yes me also. Every time I find Diamonds, that becomes an unforgettable moment for me. Even in my whole life I can't forget. The Happiness I get can't be compared with any things.
@@elite69 The "very first" diamonds I ever found were in Beta 1.2. While mining I found something blue. I saved it in a chest. Later in Beta 1.3 the tooltips appeared, and I learned that it was Lapis. After all these years, I assumed that item tooltips were added in Beta 1.3, but I just learned that these were added in Beta 1.0 ( before i started playing ). So I am confused as to why they were missing for me in Beta 1.2.... thus leading to my aforementioned confusion ! LOL !
Same for me, as I am an old school veteran player that rarely enchants anything, and have never had Netherite armor, or even an Elytra for that matter.
I remember when I first found my first emerald by digging down and falling inside a ravine. I barely died and I mined it with stone pickaxe. This was a decade ago and I never forgot how disappointed I was lol
While diamonds never really changed in the last decade+, it still puts a smile on my face whenever I spot the beautiful shade of blue in the dark. Aside from that, I agree that diamonds have lost their status and extreme value. And I certainly think diamonds *should* be given more uses.
I still think it's too complicated. I started up Minecraft again on the new updates and I just felt extremely overwhelmed and confused. It seems the most optimal way to play is to make farms for everything and follow the TH-cam meta. My old wheat farm and hobbit hole is no longer sufficient for new Minecraft.
Here's an idea for diamonds to be useful again, allow beacons to use better blocks to affect a much wider area. Make it so netherite is the same strength of diamond for the boost, that way there's no reason to use netherite over diamonds for beacons. Iron=default range Gold&Emerald= +30% range (small boost due to the ease of obtaining them) Diamond&Netherite= +100% range And to still let you decorate the beacon like normal just make it so you only need the resource up to the entire inside of the beacon base.
thats seems stupid though, because netherite is way harder, like extreme hard so just to give it the same range would deflate the need of netherite for a beacon
There should definitely be a diamond recipe that is a consumable of some sort like gold has bartering, gold apples, and carrots. And iron has anvils, trading, and the myriad of construction blocks with iron needed. Once you make every diamond recipe, you really don’t have any more need of diamonds
Great video! One additional thing that made them less of a sign of wealth is the fact that fortune allows you to gain a lot of diamonds as soon as you find a few ores. Before enchants, one diamond ore was equal to one diamond. I remember how much diamonds we could stack up on, and how little value they seemed to have after that. How would you suggest Mojang fixed the issue of diamonds? I feel like diamonds should have a status like they used to have. Seeing them become less valued is sad and makes no sense.
That's a good point, I forgot fortunes did play a minor role in reducing the values of diamonds. As for how to fix them, I think the addition of Netherite makes them impossible to have the status they used to have. As mentioned at the end of the video, I think they're better off making it stand out by having a new recipe or new use that's exclusive to diamonds. Iron sticks out because it's used for specific things like anvils and shields, whereas Gold sticks out because golden carrots and golden apples are just broken as hell. So maybe give diamond something new to make it more than just "the transitional phase before netherite". With that said, I'm glad you enjoyed the video my dude!
I think I prefer Diamonds mainly being outside of major crafting recipes. Using them for trims and stuff feels perfect. Having lots of diamonds is a flex oppose to major, necessary resource hunting. I’d like to see some stairs and slabs and stuff. There’s always the joke about kids making houses out of diamonds to flex after all.
Honestly, I'd love to see many iron blocks having a diamond version, which have the buff of either having a larger blast resistance and/or being faster/having more capacity, etc.
@@Zilaxe Diamond shields. Maybe having better knock back and also a longer lasting life. Diamond crossbows, shooting farther, and better accuracy. I've seen the ops idea be implemented in a lot of mods but these are just the two I could pull out of my ass.
The only automatic farm I can think of that doesn’t use hoppers or pistons is a villager farm, but then you are using rails and mine carts so still everything needs iron
I love this video, I agree with a lot of things you said, for me I just use villagers for diamond armor and tools because just mining for diamonds is honestly painful because of how slow deepslate takes to mine when stripmining and when going in caves theres only 1 diamond vein. Mining for diamonds is just unreliable
Same. Exploiting villagers is just way more fun for me because I can cosplay being evil. It becomes even more entertaining when you add mods like Vampirism, Evilcraft and Blood Magic into the mix so that the levels of diabolical evil skyrocket to cartoonish heights.
I think what killed it is was 1.16 and 1.18 adding netherite (making diamond essentially obsolete) and the cave update completely changing how they work and taking away from that element of nostalgia every time you mined for them
Netherite doesn't make diamonds obsolote though. Netherite can't be used to craft armor or tools directly, it can only upgrade existing diamond armor or tools.
@@shaykhmhssi3246 That's true, although a lot of players opt for villager trading for the diamond equipment directly, so to some the mineral form is seen as redundant. The latest snapshot changes that though, with diamonds now being required to clone netherite templates and being central to the new armor trimming feature.
@@alliinase9076 my point was that the utility of diamonds as a mineral resource wasn’t affected by the original addition of netherite, since the changes to villagers occurred prior
I wish they brought iron down to Diamond level. I still feel more excited finding diamonds than netherite, I think its their bright blue colour that makes them look precious
@@S0UPIE Yup, I used so many anvils for various stuff that it has always being nice to have a couple of spare anvils whenever I needed them, also the farms need iron, loads of iron.
Effectively, this also came at the cost of removing the necessity of both the mining and crafting aspects of *Minecraft*, as all you need to get maxed out equipment are an anvil (can naturally generate), a smithing table (same), and a few villagers/bastion chests. You never need to use a crafting table or set foot inside a single cave
I still remember my first time mining diamonds over 3 years ago. It was such a fun moment. Now, whenever I mine diamonds, it's just another diamond vein to me. I hope that diamonds will become more useful in the coming years.
Trust me, diamonds already felt like that 3 years ago. It’s just a simple fact of getting used to the game. New players that find diamonds still absolutely flip out over them.
I think they need to add industrial-redstone use for diamonds to craft powerful tools. For instance item pipes or autocrafting tables. This would make diamonds essential for late-game redstone farms, and at the same time (without a renewable way of obtaining them) make the demand far larger than the supply
Bad idea to make Diamonds a recipe for something so used in large bulk like pipes though, it's a limited resource, it's better if it is used for recipes that are not used in large bulk like iron
Yes, I really value iron over diamonds because I constantly need it to craft more and more lanterns. I can't stand just placing torches all around my world, they're so ugly I'm just sick of them.
You have a good speaking voice. Many people with asian accents are afraid to speak on video. I'm glad you're not using text to speech or anything, hearing your voice makes the channel more authentic and real.
Thank you for this, it's like in human nature to just cringe if you hear your own voice and it's comments like this that help me deal with that going forward. In fact, yeah I specifically did not want to use text to speech because I felt that it would really remove a lot of the personality the videos would have, I feel like viewers could get a feel for the video better if they could understand your tone and volume of your voiceover. As for my asian accent, I try not to think about it too much. If people can understand me then I think my accent is just a neat little thing on the side, it helps that I also watch other asian creators such as Accented Cinema who aren't afraid to speak on their videos, and as such make me feel less like I'm out of place.
Please never be afraid to speak with an accent, diverse accents are always lovely, plus it would be boring as hell if everything spoke in a ~proper~ English or American accent.
Here is my idea about diamonds: Add a refining system, where you can upgrade any armour or tools to increase the enchanting cap (too expensive message). Two birds with one stone - as not only it would make the annoying "Too expensive" to disappear, but it will also make diamonds handy to always keep while making new tools, and it may even help them add more enchants in the game.
I feel like that’d be pretty redundant because if you’re careful about it, you can pretty much get anything you want long before getting the Too Expensive prompt. I forget who it was, but there’s a popular video with someone demonstrating it’s possible to get 30 enchants before Too Expensive. With Mending in the game, you finish getting the 6 or 7 enchants you need and never think about anviling again.
@@BreezyInterwebs Let's get this straight- everyone has wasted atleast one part of armour/tools from getting max enchants due to the "Too expensive" thing. And I get that getting max enchants is very redundant, but minecraft after all is a sandbox game with no rules, so I see no point keeping this in the game. And my real point is, just as I mentioned, killing 2 birds with 1 stone, i. e. giving a new use to diamonds as well as removing a gigantic nuisance from the game.
@@EvilDudeLOLlet’s get this straight The game has changed and their really is no reason to change diamonds If Mojang ends up changing it that’s fine but they aren’t gonna listen to your advices that’s for sure
even if diamonds lose their value which it shouldn't, you would never replace the thrill of finding diamonds accidentally. It just feels good finding them. Veteran players (such as myself) would love this resource in the start that this would still have the thrill of finding diamonds even in later updates.
Yea but the problem is, there are so much diamonds even in caves now. You can just breeze through BIG caves and find 20-30 diamonds per hour without ever mining your way through. And when i started playing, the only ways to find some were canyons or lava pools above bedrock, and getting a full set was a real achievement.
@uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhidk 10 minutes. if you sort of try. 10 minutes from spawning in to dive into the nearest cave with nothing but a bucket of water and some logs, and quickly get diamonds. or, you could just not even go caving. go treasure hunting, villager trading, wreck diving...
@@comet.x my guy I have two separate Minecraft worlds both in survival I play often. Both worlds had enormous caves with diamonds but it would take 3-5 hours in total to find them so I have no idea what you’re talking about.
As a new player I was mildly interested in the subject of the video but the presentation was awesome enough for me to sub. The accent, the cadence, the scripting....all was great.
I'd think because Netherite exists. Now when you find Diamonds you're obviously not as hyped because you KNOW that there's an even better material that you can get after Diamonds. Getting Diamonds is just another step you have to take now in order to get to the best. I personally still get quite hyped when I find Diamonds although when finding Netherite I'm even more hyped. Honestly it's also the fact that getting Netherite gear is harder compared to getting Diamond gear. The harder something is to get the better the feeling when you actually get it.
yeah, it's kind of a weird situation because netherite doesn't actually give any extra protection (it only gives knockback resistance and some other obscure stats), but it's seen as higher tier than diamond because of how rare it is
@@spacehead10 The tools and weapons deal slightly more damage too (+1) and the durability is way higher than that of Diamond meaning you don't have to repair your stuff as often so I don't think it's just because Netherite is harder to find. It's also because it's actually better than Diamond. Not the biggest difference but still a difference
@@spacehead10 also the fact that Netherite gear doesn't burn in fire or lava. If you die in lava with Netherite gear you can still recover it meanwhile Diamond gear you can't because it's gone
@@spacehead10 Toughness is a somewhat valuable stat as it reduces armor penetration, meaning you get protected from higher damage attacks more effectively (such as the Warden). It's +3 per piece though instead of Diamond's +2, so there is *a* benefit, just probably not a significant one.
Sadly even before netherite, with my playstyle of making a new world if die (and not dying) mending and fortunate books(fisherman instead of farmer) made diamonds a thhing I go one time to mine a few ores for the 30 or so I'll need, and just walk past diamonds after that.
As someone who used to religiously follow the patch notes back in 2012 but now only plays the game once or twice a year for a week at a time, thanks for bringing me up to speed
It was the village and pillage update, not only could diamonds be obtained without ever mining but obsidian to enter the nether was plentiful. When they updated again they decreased the density of villages but gave players another obi source in the form of ruined portals.
I think the issue is that because iron was easy to find and diamonds weren't, they added more interesting uses for iron because that's what you could find a lot of without a lot of difficulty. But then iron got so much value that diamonds became less and less worth it.
Absolutely correct. It doesn’t feel the same when you get diamonds anymore. Usually you get diamonds for armor and tools but now it’s just for making netherite
True, finding diamonds doesn’t feel as satisfying as before, Once I was mining and I found diamonds and it felt as if I found coal, I made a diamond pickaxe to make a nether portal and I fell in the lava with the pickaxe and I didn’t care, I was more concerned about my map than for the pickaxe
I love how this video came out just before armor trims were announced and gave a new use for diamonds. Maybe mojang saw this video and was like "NAW FAM!"
@@callmelou5397 not true at all. The armor trims also made the netherite template. so now unless people wanna go through a dozen bastions, they need to use 5 more diamonds per netherite tool/armor.
Even then I still don’t see how diamonds are useless. It’s honestly an exaggerated problem that makes me feel more negative about netherite by tacking on more stuff you have to do than diamond.
Ur about to blow up, I guarantee u, good editing, flow, humour, and it was generally interesting and I learnt new stuff from it, good job man, can’t wait to see more
Hey thanks my dude, glad to hear that everything was in perfect balance for you. I'm also glad to hear that you learned new stuff from it! My aim is to make entertaining videos about Minecraft that also lets them know more about the game. Happy to have you onboard this TH-cam journey, more videos to come. :)
While I like everyone else am nostalgic for the time when diamonds were more special, I absolutely love netherite as a material for one reason: shaking the status quo with something as big as dethroning diamond items finally opens the door for more game-changers. The smithing system especially could allow for all kinds of upgrades or even, as I'd prefer, sidegrades to items we already know. Upgraded Netherite is a great mod to explore this: while some of the upgrades are a little broken, each one having its own purpose makes things more interesting and adds some longevity to a playthrough if you want them all.
Clocks are phenomenally useful when underground. Would rather not mine up into night-time! Also, good point about the diamonds as loot thing. In 2 new worlds now, my first diamonds haven't been from mining, but from exploring. Which I personally enjoy as it gives ever more reason to brave the vast expanse of the world, now that caves have many other appealing aspects. Though I can see why this lowers their subjective value at the same time.
Same in my current world (1.19)my first diamonds.. it's from a mineshaft and I am currently getting diamond gear and tools from villagers welp this video make me feel my fortune III villager kind of worthtless
@@fordprefect859 Yes and in fact I currently play with a Minimap mod which also includes a built in readout of the current time. A lot of people either don't know of or don't want to use the F3 menu for something like knowing the time, as it provides huge amounts of information which can feel cheap or cheaty to some. Being sarcastic about it isn't helpful.
I think the last reason is probably the most important, but not just for the reason of we found alternatives because people still do hunt for diamonds, we just got used to diamonds. If you're like me you started playing early around the late beta or early release versions when you were younger and crap at the game, getting diamonds felt like a real achievement that you worked towards and was part of the "late game". We've all gotten so good that the game, building massive structures and elaborate farms that the game only really begins once you have full diamonds, that is the prerequisite now, not the end goal. When you've collected 10's of thousands of diamonds in your life it just stops being special.
My friend and I went to 7 ancient cities trying to find a Silence armour trim, duplicated it 18 times (we were trying different colours) and still had enough diamonds left to make level 4 pure diamond beacon (yes over 2 and a half stacks of blocks).
I think the cave&cliffs update is a double edge sword for diamonds. It added deep slate stone which is much harder to mine than stone. It also increased the depth of the world which made diamonds even rarer(Seriously, I’ve mined at the past diamond level yet not even a single iron). However, this caused a problem, mining in the over world became useless. Why break thousand of pickaxes when you can just get diamonds and iron from villagers for a few emeralds.
I'd also say its a double edge sword since now you can find diamonds more easily in negative coordinate caves, so they aren't as rare (imo), but its a good change since you don't have to strip mine anymore.
@@Memezndreamz what? Iron isnt that rare, go explore a single mountain/hill or open cave overworld on top and can find iron, by then u can easily find more and more iron, its actually iron picks that are the most breaked
@@Chris-qb8kg I’m not talking about digging straight down or using generated caves I’m talking about mining out a diagonal stairway which is super time consuming.
genuine shock displayed on my face when i looked at your subscriber count; i had almost choked on my food, too. your content is very high in quality, so i'm surprised more people haven't subscribed yet - i'm definitely sticking around!
The iron farm you showed at 5:50 is the exact same as the design I used! (Apart from a few modifications I made, a larger spawn platform with the lava at the center and a poppy sorting system)
The joy of finding that very first diamond was very memorable to me. What ruined the value is villager trading for me. I could always trade boats or sticks to eventually get diamond equipments...
I just mined diamonds for the while diamond beacon. And it still feels satisfying to randomly find diamond after that anyway. Gotta mine them all! By the way, diamond ores may look like a really neat detail in some builds. Especially if you use some shaders that make them glow
That's why I love playing older versions every now and then (mostly Beta 1.7.3) because it feels way more exciting to find diamonds (and even other resources such as iron).
@@XayXayYT hey bro I wanted to say that there was a bug that existed when armor was added till beta 1.7.3 and it made armor and tools lose durability faster and that is why finding iron and diamonds is exciting
Update: as of 25th January, Mojang added a new use for diamonds in armor trimming!
Corrections:
- Iron has existed as a trade for as early as 1.3, however it existed as 8 - 9 irons for 1 emerald. It was update 1.14 which reduced it to 4 irons, so technically they still made iron really good for trading in 1.14.
- As pointed out by "Hmmm ok" in the comments, diamonds were also added into Ancient Cities in 1.19, I tend to forget 1.19 existed sometimes.
- Players learning how to strip mine, y = 11/12 and getting better at finding diamonds also reduced their specialty. Forgot to mention this by the end.
- "Iron farms were created to keep up with the DEMANDS" not the supply. I got them mixed up 🥴
- Yes, Mending affected diamonds too, Mending played a huge part in reducing the impact of diamonds since it removed any need to get more diamonds now that your equipment were permanent. A future video will be made commenting on that!
Now with 1.19 even golden hoe has a use. If you put mending on it, you can instantly mine sckulk block and farm an insain amount of EXP
@@simonezuccarello6969 mojang just needs to nerf mending xD
@@groveri2 I don't think soo.. If mending doesn't exist you will constantly need to recreate and enchant your tools and armor and. With mending we can get a final equipment.
@@simonezuccarello6969 i said nerf.....
Your people killed half the world: you are not in a good position to criticize diamonds
I remember when gold was absolutely hated, but that was when people ignored the fact that it could be used for things other than tools and armor, and now it is very valuable for golden apples.
And in the past before the removal for the crafting recipe on the enchanted golden apple that needed more gold than ever
If one played nether survival, one realized that gold did work 'enough' that it was common that when one finally was able to returned to the OW one would be clad in all or mostly all gold. Interestingly (and unrelated), gold is also the most enchantable armor and with a little tweaking it could have been a choice between durable diamond and enchantable gold as the top tier.
@@DavidStrchld but also has THE lowest of any sets durability by far
@@crashwave299 Yes as I said it would require retweeting to have done that. Perhaps more durability or higher levels of unbreaking and other stuff available only for Gold.
@@DavidStrchld but the question is will the players accept a retweaked gold set and tools back as a real wearable armor?
As a minecraft veteran, finding diamonds still feels like it is a reward, finding netherite feels like a chore...
That's me tooo
Interesting! For me, netherite hunting is fun. The only thing is, I literally can't find where I went hunting for it. I'm not even kidding 💀
I never had a netherite ingot😢
For me its the other way in reverse lol. Diamonds is a chore, netherite gives me a way better dopamine rush then what diamond used to give me before Mojang nerfed diamonds so bad.
@@simonantoska9581 I am digging the nether to find ancient debris it seems totally pointless as I used 2 diamond pickaxes just to find 2 debris and 2 more are to be found.
as a veteran minecraft player, since the beginning till now, i'm so pleased and satisfied every time i get diamonds, because they are like such a treasure for me, even in these newer versions they've stayed in my mind as something of value.
same man
same..
Same. I've been with the game since Alpha 1.1.2_01
Oh absolutely
Same! I play more casually, so I'm stuck at Iron tools/armour for *AGES*, so finding diamonds is still a big event for me.
I rarely get to a full stack, since I mostly focus on building instead of caving, and I rarely use automatic farms. I do everything manually and I use villager trades sparingly. Automation, for singleplayer at least, sucks the fun out of the game in my opinion.
One time in...1.16? My brother invited me onto a server with his kids. I saw their base, and its basement. About four chunks or so excavated down to the 30s. Using stone tools.
Because iron was too rare.
And they had a pretty terrible iron farm running.
...
I built a villager trading farm and destroyed that server's economy inside a week. I learned a lot about the value of NOT building infrastructure.
Survival is creative now.
Fun Fact: back in alpha versions, there was so little iron in the world and tools had less durability, so that if you mined for iron with iron pickaxes at the optimal mining level, you lost iron. You had to use either diamond or stone tools.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 bro... survival is not like creative at all, I don't get why the minecraft community is so toxic and hate the game so much. If you want to mine iron for hours, play a different game.
@@50upss if you want to mine iron for hours, play survival, if you don't want to mine for hours, play creative. What's the problem?
@@50upssI missed the part where toxic.
@@50upss The people who "hate the game" are the ones who want to trade with villagers for an hour to get everything with no exploring or resource collecting and then automate everything so the game plays itself.
Even in the new versions I still feel that rush of dopamine when finding diamonds, more than netherite, they still hold great value to me as a player since 2012
Yea,i'm a player since 2017 and finding diamonds its more exciting than finding netherite for me.
Same bro I started playing back in 1.2.5 and I still feel excitement whenever I find diamonds
@@MulinoBS 2017? lol not an og player
@@jonallen7619 bro's gatekeeping on a block game 💀
@@abyssmage6979 really tho, the guy started playing in 2017, what a loser
I remember playing the 30 minutes demo version of Minecraft just to repeatedly dig down to find diamonds before the 30 minutes ended.
Damn, find diamonds speedrun any %
@@XayXayYT ong
I used to do that once I even made a nether portal
TRUEEEE the Xbox 360 demo, I remember you spawned in a small area and there was an (empty) kind of village (no villagers introduced yet) great times
I remember doing this in 1.8, but trying to find Redstone instead. I never found it though 😕
I think something you missed is the addition of mending. Diamonds went from something you needed to repeatedly mine for to stop your gear breaking, to something you only needed to get once and let mending take care of your gear
Yep, I forgot to mention that as well, they made tools too permanent and as such made diamonds less needed since you can get like a full stack and never have to mine any more once mending is unlocked.
@@Hi_Im_o2 I never understood why making tools too expensive to repair is even a mechanic, should just be a flat resource rate such as 3 diamonds to repair a pickaxe.
Items eventually becoming too expensive to repair in turn makes mending a requirement for enchanted gear.
Between fortune which makes it easy to get lots of diamonds, and mending which makes you only need diamonds "once", they must aren't rare anymore.
Just don't use mending then
Also, many villagers send diamond stuff.
No new diamond recipes was a terrible negligence from Mojang, but I think the worst part was adding diamond armor and tools to villagers' trades. You don't need to go mining to make diamond stuff, just cure a bunch of zombie villagers until you can just trade them as if nothing with no limits. The same goes for enchantments from trades and how woodland mansions went worthless the trip since you can get tons of undying totems from raids. All of this is destroying what Minecraft means.
Underrated comment
Villager Trading is arguably one of the worst implemented mechanics in the game, right next to Elytras.
The Experimental Villager Trade Rebalance makes it so you need to trade emeralds AND diamonds to get diamond armor, not sure about tools tho.
@@OnlyNeedJuan Mending, villager trading, and the dozens of existing farms mean that multiplayer gets flooded with materials that have no out as gear is effectively immortal. The servers i checked are hyperinflated to the point of ridicule, diamonds are near worthless and so are supposedly rare stuff like totems/enchants, and anything that can be farmed if not afkfarmed/autoclicker.
The people who though armour trims would somehow fix this do not realise it only meant people will only make the sets they want once and those will last forever, effectively being a one time purchase.
@@OnlyNeedJuan Elytra's are one of the best implemented features, they are an end game item, they can't be farmed and they make the game super fun
When Minecraft first started, finding diamonds meant you were a professional. Now, finding diamonds means you are just getting started
does that mean I’m lame at Minecraft. Cause I can never find these things.
I can’t even get a diamond before I get bored and quit the world lol
@@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX depends on how you play and what your goals are
I personally havent stip mined for diamond gear etc... basically ever. However, i still get dia gear either though villager trades, using the create mod, or by making redstone stuff in servers for a small fee. Diamonds ARE still good as currency after all, especially in modded minecraft where usually theres some renewable source of iron.
i feel like getting diamonds in this new caves and cliffs update is hard as hell i haven’t even found a warden place yet
@@XxEggman_Meme_GodxX actually no, because most of them spawn under the ground, where you cant ser unless you have he patience to Mine alot
(At least for me It was like that, i even downloaded a mod with a Compass that show me where the ores are and almost ALL of them were inside walls or the ground)
Remember when everyone viewed diamonds as a sign of wealth and power? Me too. Now it's just a memory in the distant past...
Yeah, back when having a diamond block house was the most in your face flexing, it was pretty good times.
Nowadays its just a way for minecraft builders to trash on you for building an ugly house.
They are still viewed as a sign as wealth and power, I don't know what you're talking about. But yeah, maybe they became a bit less valuable with the introduction of netherite.
@@binkus_ forget the introduction of netherite. Netherite didn’t make diamonds more common or take away from their utility. What cheapened diamonds was the armorer, toolsmith and weapon smith master equipment trades, as well adding diamonds to too many structure loot tables.
Netherite is prestigious without taking away from diamonds prestige. The worst it does is overshadow it somewhat.
i think its bc every single lets play youtuber now speedruns diamonds instead of just enjoying the moment so watchers would want to do that too o.O
depends on how it's used
In a private smp between me and my friends diamonds are used as the main currency, so they still have worth
they need to add more uses for diamond tbh, i was actually shocked to find that we havent gotten a single use for diamond since they were added
Same here, I realised during researching that diamond updates were basically updates to make them easier to get.
Yeah. And most of the gear we find made of diamond is negligible because one usually has a standard set already. And definitely enough resources to recreate it in an event of falling to the void.
the only new use for diamonds we got made the diamonds obsolete (Netherite)
@@theyarentsane yea thats literally it diamonds these days are just a stop gap until you can get Netherite
Yea for sure!
Like technology
Man, when i saw the old gold ingot texture i remembered how when i was a kid i used to think it was a bar of butter until i read the name of the thing
Same
It says a lot that in the Hermitcraft server, the primary use for diamonds is as currency, not building material--and they keep having to reset the economy because of diamond-glut.
i actually love that tho. it’s rare , but not too rare. it’s more effective than iron and gold and has way more uses than emerald. its like the perfect currency! and if i’m not mistaken, they do trade netherite sometimes
@@deadinside44123
Netherite trade must be some black-market levels of stuff out there.
@@EperkeDashh especially with all the methods of iron golem farms. if that’s what you meant by mass farms then i agree. stuff like that is textbook to the hermitcraft members now lol
@@thalmoragent9344 LOL
@@deadinside44123 diamond has wayyyyy less uses than emeralds, trading is probably one of the most underrated aspects of the game. You can get an insane variety of useful items (including diamond gear) almost instantly
The one thing that softens the netherite blow is the fact that you still need diamond gear to actually put netherite to use, the diamond gear isn't outright circumvented with the new ore.
I was looking for this comment. Despite the general lack of uses for diamond, and ease of finding it, I still continue to go on occasional diamond hunts whenever my supply dips below 20. I wanna be able to remake any lost gear in the event of untimely death.
Its more of an alloy to me honestly.
You also need a diamond pickaxe to mine netherite anyway
@@Some_randomeggthe thing is that u get it with iron trading emeralds.
Netherite is just a phone case for diamonds
I once had to retire my diamond armor and go back to iron since I was going through a set every couple hours, not because I was going to run out, but because I needed them as currency to buy buttloads of lava buckets for my smelters on the server I was on. It was such a rush realizing that diamonds were no longer the end goal, and that by utilizing their worth to others I became one of the bigger powers on the server, at least for a small time. Was kinda neat since I was a carrot farmer beforehand
truly upsetting
What's wrong with being a carrot farmer :(
I love carrot farming
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Him: "Minecraft is getting too comlicated!"
Terraria in the background: *Starts sweating*
Both games commited the same sin and thats more or less why I eventually dropped them both.
@@flariz4824 Nah. Complexity adds to both games.
@@flariz4824 weirdo
@@affordablex4914 ikr, they probably think cherry wood is a bad addition 5o thr game even tho its beautiful
It also feels like Mending made diamonds feel obsolete as you progress in your world. You use a fair amount of them in the beginning in order to make your gear, your enchantment tables etc, but eventually you already have everything you needed diamonds for. Your gear doesn't break because of Mending, so in the end any new diamonds you get are just kind of useless. You turn them into blocks to save storage space, and eventually you start using them for the most random things because your chest with diamond blocks is almost full
Then
You turn all your armour and tools into nether right
Mending kinda ruins the game for me. Constantly maintaining gear through levels and repairs is a better game play loop imo. Keeps everything relevant without cannibalizing content like mending does
My Minecraft method is now: grow paper, capture librarian, trade up to name tag, make iron farm, capture weaponsmith, armorer and toolsmith, trade iron for emeralds, trade emeralds for diamond tools and armour. I make buckets and find surface lava to make portals. Never need to mine until I locate the end Portal.
@@jessieansell6168 cannibalizing what content? just more strip mining
@@Ethan-tm8dj Yeah, for a game called Minecraft, I sure do next to 0 mining nowadays. You make 1 trip down to gather a small inventory and then you never go underground again. Kinda sad.
never realized that there were so few crafting recipes that use diamonds, seems like a super weird oversight that they haven't added more.
I stopped playing minecraft long ago, but have always continued to keep up with it by watching videos. You know how many minecraft parodies included diamonds in any sort of way? So many. If anything they're a big part of minecraft's identity back then.
I definitely considered adding those songs in the video actually, but felt I couldn't add them without breaking the flow too much with like "mine the diamonds" from tobuscus LMAO
@@XayXayYTDiamonds are like the popular kid in high school with a lot of friends but suddenly high school was their peak and they eventually lost all their friends and they never went up with a glow up
If I may ask, why did you stop playing minecraft?
@@dragoneater2008_ Theres some reasons why one might, but altogether most of them are just don't have the time anymore and stuff like that.
I've stopped a lot of times and for me it mostly boils down to not having any friends or getting motion sick.
@@mtgstudios1556 👍
he made this video and they made armour trims .. the most chore to make
"why diamonds don't feel special anymore" meanwhile me using my 54th stone pickaxe strip mining for diamonds only to get 4 after more than 30 minutes
Stop strip mining and go caving
use an iron pickaxe
@@TFrills i made sure not to waste my iron pickaxe at stone because if i did, i might find diamonds but never have any iron pickaxe
while there was so many iron in caves, i might have watched a _little_ too much creepypastas and never went in the caves
Skill issue
@@askatasunera_ i can't deny that, maybe i actually have one
We can't forget that Netherite basically took the role of diamonds by being the hardest stuff to acquire, while being the most broken material to use for equipment
Netherite didn't really took the role of diamonds. It simply make them better. Upgraded them. They are as needed as before... well actually not as much as before but MORE.
Just make bed,its not hardest to acquire
@@Weird_guy47 you can explode things with anything you want, you're still going to get more diamonds per hour than ancient debris on average. That means it is still the hardest material to get, even though it might not be hard for you.
I really don't think netherite caused diamonds to go down in popularity, I think Mojang realized diamonds had already gone way down and thus they introduced a new material that would, as you say, fill the role that diamonds had lost.
@@dominusalicorn3684 true.
Back in the old days, diamonds were REALLY hard to get. Enchants were rare, repairs wernt infinite, and you had to put in manual effort to get diamonds, or get lucky with a villager, who traded completely random shit. And if you did villager trading for dia stuff chances were you got garbage.
Nowadays dia gear can be farmed using villagers with the right block near them, and be reset just as easy.
Not only that, but lots of structures nowadays have a chance to have diamonds in them, making it so you dont even need to mine for them.
I do want to make clear that im not picking a side on wether diamonds were better in the past or not, but they are less rare than they used to be.
I will pick a side with iron though, as it has seen the reverse of whats happening to diamonds.
Iron nowadays has a LOT of uses. From minecarts and rails to pistons and hoppers, there is a LOT of use for iron. however there is just one renewable way to get iron, and its something that mojang doesnt actually want: the iron golem farm.
mojang has tried for years to make iron golem farms useless, from making the golem drop nuggets instead of iron bars (thats why nuggets exist btw) to making it tedious. they REALLY dont like it...
however, there isnt really a alternative anymore. if you want enough iron to fuel your base during normal gameplay, or god forbid you wanna automate something, you REQUIRE a iron farm. theres no alternative in the base game. sure there have been things that increase iron yield in the base game, however those options dont actually fix the problem. and sure, there are mods, but if you need mods to fix a problem that has existed for years now theres a bigger problem that has to be dealt with.
i think one thing you're forgetting about diamonds' demand is that before the grindstone (and before enchanted books especially) if you got a bad enchant on your tool while trying to get a maxed out one, you had to make a new one
crafting two pickaxes together would reset the enchantments, but you're still right. The grindstone made it so that you didn't have to pay three diamonds to try an enchantment again. Villagers also make enchantment tables completely pointless because you can just pick what enchantments you want now.
@@qrzone8167 yeah, the ruinage of game balance...
Playing minecreft recently I definately feel like the villagers update completely trivialized finding resources. The ideal strategy for a hardcore worlds is to find a village as soon as possible and trade for all your equipment. You don't need to even step foot in a cave or dig down until your are searicng for an end portal.
But, on the long run, going down in caves and actually getting lost and only getting out when you are bursting with resources is funny and helpful, because, you wouldn't need to worry too much for a good chunk of time.
This is super underrated.
By the way, I don't exactly get what you mean by 'not special anymore'. Finding diamonds is one of the best feelings I get from Minecraft, especially when I've been mining deepslate for 10 minutes with an iron pickaxe and I suddenly stumble into a vein of 8 diamonds.
I'm glad that diamonds are still one of the best experiences for you my dude, and this video isn't meant to take that away from you.
My point was that it isn't special anymore because it lost what made it so important at the early stages of the game. You no longer need it for diamond tools when trading exists and you no longer need it for enchantments when... well trading exists again. It also no longer gives that excitement since it's now less rarer than ancient debris.
So in a way, it's a bit of a nostalgic lens, it doesn't feel as awesome as the first time you mine diamonds and with the game being updated more and more, it feels less and less awesome. But my point is that Mojang could give diamonds a new recipe or new use in future updates to make it interesting again, especially for long-time players.
That aside, I'm glad the video was enjoyable to you my friend!
@@XayXayYT I think it might also have to do with the fact that any publicly watched server ever uses diamonds... basically like cash. It's rare and non renewable. Meaning there's no automatic method to getting a ton of diamonds, so it acts as a stable currency. This is why mojang doesn't add to diamonds. If there were more resource sinks for diamonds, earning diamonds to spend in servers would become more difficult.
In survival, yeah diamonds don't mean much. Once you got them, they're pretty much there for you to flex with. But on servers, you're constantly trying to make diamonds to buy blocks in bulk to ease the block gathering process.
@@WhatIsMyPorpoise ah, honestly that's a good point. I suppose servers using diaminds as a form of currency could've made Mojang more hesistant to add new uses.
True and you need diamond for Netherite
Idk, I play a lot of modded Minecraft admittedly in older version but diamond is like a mid tier ore compared to some of the other ores.
Yet diamonds are still a nice surprise for me.
Also kinda unrelated but screw the combat update :)
Three decent ideas to bring diamonds back to their initial status.
First one as mentioned in the video, rails are slow. Powered rails are slightly faster, but some type of diamond powered rails should be significantly faster, potentially faster than elytra. Requiring them for long distance consistent transportation.
Second is filtered hoppers. The name says it all. It would just be a hopper with a diamond in it that can only allow certain items to get through.
Third are drill blocks. Blocks that break the block in front of them when activated with redstone. Has durability like an anvil and revolutionizes many farms.
All of these are blocks that could be used for complex builds that progress the player further with the more diamonds you have
4th idea. Diamonds for ENCHANTED golden apples. Because you cannot farm diamonds, it brings back the importance of going out and mining for the raw diamond. Using a golden apple, just surround it with 8 diamonds and boom, you have the most legendary and best food in the game. Not only that, but it brings back the status symbol as if you have a stack of these, it means you had to get 8 stacks of diamonds! Not exactly easy.
True this should be 100% implemented as a new redstone overhaul
@@howardbaxter2514 i think 6 diamonds and 2 blocks is more balanced, because 8 diamonds is essentially the same as finding one diamond vein with fortune 3
I don't think diamonds will ever go back to the way they were way back when in Minecraft, the game has changed, deal with it.
As some other people have pointed out in the various comments, netherite has taken the place of diamonds and at some point down the road something is likely going to take the place of netherite.
I don't think Diamonds need consistent sinks, though it wouldn't be a horrible idea to make Diamonds even rarer, since mending exists, and you only need to make one set of tools and armour to be set for life (until you die), rather than constantly having to replenish it after they break.
You forgot to mention one more thing: Ancient Cities. While starting my hardcore survival playthrough I managed to find an ancient city and successfully looted it (well, partially. Almost died to the warden) and i had enough diamonds to craft an entire set of tools and a chestplate
Edit: Also I found 2 god apples
Damn I completely forgot 1.19 existed, good catch!
Ancient cities are really rare though so i dont think thats an issue
@@XayXayYT I thought I was the only one who forgot 1.19 existed. Also, I feel like after 1.17, the Minecraft updates felt forgettable to me due to it being minimalistic, but like I said, maybe it is just me.
AC's are weird as the warden damage bypasses armor, and is meant to avoid instead of kill, so if you can get into one early game you have about the same chance that a well equipped player has. This means one can quickly acquire high end gear. Unquestionably a hail Mary approach but when it works it works well and can get one deep into the game progression very early and bypass a lot of the stages.
@@XayXayYTFunny thing is if your lucky enough you can find the whole armor and tool set without using any extra diamonds.
If you can find all the gear then you’ll basically have a stack of diamonds from both ores laying around and of course from chests.
It’s wild to watch this because I recently went from playing the latest version (1.20) to playing on a 1.8 server and suddenly the rush of finding diamonds came right back to me. It really does feel dependent on the version, and it was made expressly clear to me the difference when I hopped from a superflat world where I easily traded for all my diamond gear to an anarchy server where diamonds are a resource you had to protect at all costs
Yes bro 1.8 best version
yea, i play survival lifeboat and diamonds are useful there cuz netherite doesnt exist
as an aspiring game designer/developer, I appreciate your thoughtful analysis of the game's economy.
Yep! Honestly this video was a big analysis of power creeping at its finest, it's something that aspiring game creators have to pay attention to moving forward
Another thing you forgot to mention in the "players got better" section is how players have developed strats to get the most diamonds possible. Mining at Y 11 or 12, the Lapis trick (both of which were overturned in 1.18, but the most efficient level is now Y -57 or so), and crawl mining have all made diamonds way less time-consuming to get if you were looking for them. Of course, this is only one of Minecraft's many flaws.
Yep, I should've mentioned the fact that strip mining played a huge part in that as well. Good catch.
@@XayXayYT Thanks! Not to mention there's nothing more infuriating than realizing the best way to get resources is to mindlessly break blocks, rather than exploring the caves.
idk why, but I feel like strip mining in Beta was more fun and enjoyable than modern strip mining. It felt like there was a mystery to it for some reason.
And then there's the swamp clay strat
@@kstchl35 Yeah.
All of the servers I make with my friends get cut short and I think it is because of villagers. I will come up from the mines with a few diamonds and my friends will have full diamond gear by staying at their base and using villagers. Diamonds are viewed now as a basic set of armor because you can get an infinite amount using villagers. Instead of being worried to die with your diamonds, you know you will just get another full set almost instantly. Instead of risking it in the mines, you get more value from staying inside. Instead of mining (which I find enjoyable) you grind with villagers and use glitches to get nearly the best gear.
Pumpkin farm + villagers = infinite emeralds = infinite diamond gear
Can you explain what glitches youre reffering to?
Honestly yeah. This is why I prefer lore SMPs now over normal let’s plays when watching YT.
It’s not fun watching a TH-camr just trade for anything they would need and build mega bases. It was cool watching them work for enough resources to build a basic base that could cover an island.
Modern Minecraft is too easy and it’s become more of a platform to create content with instead of the content it’s self.
@@thepandrbr ...
I assume either void trading or the infinite emerald loops.
@@Wesley-1776 what lore smps would u recommend to watch
4:52
"THE BIGGEST, MOST AWFUL, MOST TRAGIC EVENT-"
11037 got that reference.
I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE, Bless 11037 uwu
Who else still finds diamonds valuable and gets a mini heart attack whenever they see them
Me
me
Me
You need them to duplicate Beth write upgrades so they are still useful
Me
I think another thing that made diamonds less fun to get is the new deepslate layer/ore distribution changes they made. Before, you could mine through stone easily, finding other ores and interesting cave systems along the way, but now there’s the slower to mine through deepslate and basically the only ores you can find at the best levels are diamonds, redstone, and the occasional gold and iron if you get lucky. It makes strip mining more tedious than it once was in my opinion
It was a double edged sword change I'd say, it made strip mining less effective which encouraged players to explore caves to find them. So players like me who didn't like strip mining loved the change since it made diamonds more interesting to find, but it made players who just wanted to get diamonds and prefer strip mining to lose out on their favourite method.
I agree. Now mining is so tedious that it's better to skip the classic-style early game and just go straight to a villager-based early game.
And that tells me villagers where a mistake and should at least be somehow gated.
In addition, caving has also become a huge pain. Caverns are so large now that you often end up with 20+ paths to follow, which sounds cool until you realize just how much surface area you have to light up. Even if you don't have a bunch of paths to follow, there are often massive caverns that would take stacks of torches to fully mob proof. On top of that, diamonds have reduced air exposure, meaning when you're caving you're constantly thinking about how much more you could probably find if you were strip mining, and you already stated the problems with that.
@@themadkat3374 in a game about mining, I'm surprised subnautica has a better mining system with ways to backtrack easier than MINEcraft. The worst feeling is getting lost in a cave with no choice except to dig straight up
After the 1.18 update, diamonds became obscenely common. You could go into a cave with a fortune 3 pick and 0 diamonds and come out with a stack or more diamonds.
Honestly, while that did affect diamond's rarity, I find the rework of diamonds in mines to be better overall because I find strip mining to be really boring. But they should've followed up 1.18 with a new recipe for diamonds to give player something to use all these diamonds on.
@@XayXayYT Yeah, you got a point...
nah it was mainly 1.17 which made diamonds common, then in 1.18 they made it rare again
@@Mxrdum 1.17 did nothing to diamonds because it was not the update that added caves and the lower world, just some new blocks. No ore spawning was changed. 1.18 added the caves and low world. That means that when you go into a low cave, you have thousands of blocks being exposed to your eyes. They did add a limited air exposure rule, but that is negligible when you have that many blocks that you can see that can be diamond. In addition, the rule does not apply when you see diamonds in an aquifer. And finally, they changed ore mechanics so that diamonds can spawn even more frequently in the low negatives of your world than they could spawn before 1.18. All of that happened in 1.18 not 1.17. Lol sorry I wrote an essay trust me I do have a life...
Villagers destroyed their value. Get some farmers and a pumpkin press, and then a city full of toolsmiths and armor smiths and you never need to mine diamonds ever again.
7:11 bro when he said that, my like button got a little animation effect around it. When did they add that to TH-cam?? That was neat
Idk, but that's new.
I think the main reason why diamonds started to fall off was because they were never given any new uses up until smithing templates. For a long time now, they were just used for tools, enchant tables, and jukeboxes.
And they're made a lot more common
Jukeboxes requiring diamonds is still kind of crazy to me lol
@@YaoGuy.Official Not that crazy, early real life jukeboxes uses diamonds so it's a cool fun fact if anything AND jukeboxes are purely vanity blocks anyway
They made the top-tier tools and armor. Why would they need another use?
@@slowfreqsimply because a better tool was added
I think one thing worth mentioning that kept diamonds valuable for me is the fact that you can only break obsidian with a diamond pickaxe, so this to me was the only way I could get to the nether other than using buckets which I didnt know how too use and its use in the enchanting table meaning I could get Fortune and looting which were my favourite enchantments, also you can only mine netherite with a diamond or netherite pickaxe which is another use for diamonds
For a basic 10 block nether portal, build upwards and place water on one of the top 2 obsidian positions, then just place lava around it.
As for enchantments, librarians kind of made it easier, since you don't have to cycle through multiple bad ones on an enchanting table.
@@XayXayYTahah so diamonds are even more useless than I thought lol thanks this is helpful, I might have a go on minecraft again, its lost its magic for a while now it just dosent feel the same for some reason, I hope I can get that feeling back one day, I think the new updates have made it feel too different from its original beauty, although the updates are really good im definitely not hating on the owners of minecraft, especially the nether update that one was my favourite
Not to mention the nether ruins that added, you can easily go to nether with them
I think it really is a gateway to the nether because even though you can make a nether portal without diamonds, you're going to need diamond armor in case a ghast decides to sneak up on you and ruin your day.
@@beez1717 I totally agree, also you can only mine netherite with a diamond or netherite pickaxe so that gives them another important use, diamonds are still useful just not as precious as the early days of minecraft
Minecraft should add "Diamond Apple" and "Enchanted Diamond Apple" to gain diamonds popularity back (ig)
I remember when I was really young, I found diamonds in a Minecraft world of mine and flexed about it the next day. No matter how the sands of time wither their importance, they will always have a special place in my heard that neither iron, gold or netherite could ever hope to replicate.
same
Wither 💀
@@Exorcist_ali248 yes that wither will blow the diamonds off your socks 💀
I think the reason that they never added more recipes for diamonds is probably because they wanted everything that diamonds don’t already use that they could’ve used to be easily accessible. They never intended for people to get stacks of diamond blocks, they intended for you to get diamond armour and enchantments and then never mine for diamonds again.
I'd have to disagree though, if they never intended for me to mine diamonds after armour and enchantments then mending didn't need to be added to the game though no?
@@XayXayYTIt could be argued that mending was added so that diamond tools/armor will never need other diamond replacements.
A better example of your point can be easier shown with crafting recipes which require diamonds, even then there’s not many of them.
Maybe make notch apples craftable and add diamonds to the recipes.
Yeah, but pretty much every recipie including diamonds you can buy from villagers. Whenever I play with my friends, we get fletchers to get emeralds from wood, then we level up armorsmiths, toolsmiths, and weaponsmiths to buy Diamond stuff for less than half a stack of emeralds, this isn’t even accounting zombie trades.
@@XayXayYT mending actually proves the exact opposite of your point. That the intent for diamond tools is to be crafted once, enchanted and kept forever.
I agree, diamonds need more special crafting recipes like enchanting tables for them to really feel special again
Yep, rather than try to make them compete with netherite, give diamonds a new use that's exclusive to them like shields with iron or golden apples with gold
@@XayXayYT especially as diamond tools and armor can be acquired from villagers to allow diamonds to be utilized for other things
@@McMikey78 yeah, atleast Mojang should make those trades really expensive and without offers
Agree. They should get new usess. Why shields don't have tiers like tools? Why not create redstone components thats need diamonds?
Love your accent man, hearing syllables and tones in your voice calms the inner monkey inside my brain
10/10
No matter what is added throughout the years, diamonds will forever remain special for me.
Yes me also. Every time I find Diamonds, that becomes an unforgettable moment for me. Even in my whole life I can't forget. The Happiness I get can't be compared with any things.
@@elite69 The "very first" diamonds I ever found were in Beta 1.2. While mining I found something blue. I saved it in a chest. Later in Beta 1.3 the tooltips appeared, and I learned that it was Lapis. After all these years, I assumed that item tooltips were added in Beta 1.3, but I just learned that these were added in Beta 1.0 ( before i started playing ). So I am confused as to why they were missing for me in Beta 1.2.... thus leading to my aforementioned confusion ! LOL !
Same for me, as I am an old school veteran player that rarely enchants anything, and have never had Netherite armor, or even an Elytra for that matter.
@@jasonrubik Oh
I remember when I first found my first emerald by digging down and falling inside a ravine. I barely died and I mined it with stone pickaxe. This was a decade ago and I never forgot how disappointed I was lol
While diamonds never really changed in the last decade+, it still puts a smile on my face whenever I spot the beautiful shade of blue in the dark. Aside from that, I agree that diamonds have lost their status and extreme value. And I certainly think diamonds *should* be given more uses.
I still think it's too complicated. I started up Minecraft again on the new updates and I just felt extremely overwhelmed and confused. It seems the most optimal way to play is to make farms for everything and follow the TH-cam meta. My old wheat farm and hobbit hole is no longer sufficient for new Minecraft.
Here's an idea for diamonds to be useful again, allow beacons to use better blocks to affect a much wider area. Make it so netherite is the same strength of diamond for the boost, that way there's no reason to use netherite over diamonds for beacons.
Iron=default range
Gold&Emerald= +30% range (small boost due to the ease of obtaining them)
Diamond&Netherite= +100% range
And to still let you decorate the beacon like normal just make it so you only need the resource up to the entire inside of the beacon base.
thats seems stupid though, because netherite is way harder, like extreme hard so just to give it the same range would deflate the need of netherite for a beacon
@@Chris-qb8kg because why would you use netherite for a full size beacon in the first place lmao
@@mexomenti achievement of self pride and accomplishment
It'd also fix the tragically short beacon range
Netherite beacon = huge flex
There should definitely be a diamond recipe that is a consumable of some sort like gold has bartering, gold apples, and carrots. And iron has anvils, trading, and the myriad of construction blocks with iron needed. Once you make every diamond recipe, you really don’t have any more need of diamonds
We have golden apples and carrots, now we need diamond potatoes
Well, not anymore
@@astrylleaf yeah lmao I just saw the trimming stuff and it’s like my prayers have been answered lol
@@Autumnityyy diamond beetroot
Great video! One additional thing that made them less of a sign of wealth is the fact that fortune allows you to gain a lot of diamonds as soon as you find a few ores. Before enchants, one diamond ore was equal to one diamond. I remember how much diamonds we could stack up on, and how little value they seemed to have after that.
How would you suggest Mojang fixed the issue of diamonds? I feel like diamonds should have a status like they used to have. Seeing them become less valued is sad and makes no sense.
That's a good point, I forgot fortunes did play a minor role in reducing the values of diamonds.
As for how to fix them, I think the addition of Netherite makes them impossible to have the status they used to have. As mentioned at the end of the video, I think they're better off making it stand out by having a new recipe or new use that's exclusive to diamonds. Iron sticks out because it's used for specific things like anvils and shields, whereas Gold sticks out because golden carrots and golden apples are just broken as hell. So maybe give diamond something new to make it more than just "the transitional phase before netherite".
With that said, I'm glad you enjoyed the video my dude!
I wouldn't mind if fortune didn't work on diamonds anymore.
@@williamdrum9899 That would suck lmao
I don't know what y'all are talking about I still wig out when I get diamonds.
same
I think I prefer Diamonds mainly being outside of major crafting recipes. Using them for trims and stuff feels perfect. Having lots of diamonds is a flex oppose to major, necessary resource hunting.
I’d like to see some stairs and slabs and stuff. There’s always the joke about kids making houses out of diamonds to flex after all.
Honestly, I'd love to see many iron blocks having a diamond version, which have the buff of either having a larger blast resistance and/or being faster/having more capacity, etc.
Like what, i am a bit confused how that would be very good
@@Zilaxe Diamond shields. Maybe having better knock back and also a longer lasting life. Diamond crossbows, shooting farther, and better accuracy. I've seen the ops idea be implemented in a lot of mods but these are just the two I could pull out of my ass.
The only automatic farm I can think of that doesn’t use hoppers or pistons is a villager farm, but then you are using rails and mine carts so still everything needs iron
Lava farm.
@@Rorschachqp Lava farm uses iron for cauldrons.
@@FoxSlyme and what are ya gonna collect all that lava with?
@@vaccuumhelmet521 that's the point, even the lava farm uses iron
@@FoxSlyme I know, I was adding to your comment because I agree
I’ve been playing for years, even at 17 I still get excited when I find diamonds regardless
I love this video, I agree with a lot of things you said, for me I just use villagers for diamond armor and tools because just mining for diamonds is honestly painful because of how slow deepslate takes to mine when stripmining and when going in caves theres only 1 diamond vein. Mining for diamonds is just unreliable
Same. Exploiting villagers is just way more fun for me because I can cosplay being evil. It becomes even more entertaining when you add mods like Vampirism, Evilcraft and Blood Magic into the mix so that the levels of diabolical evil skyrocket to cartoonish heights.
I think what killed it is was 1.16 and 1.18 adding netherite (making diamond essentially obsolete) and the cave update completely changing how they work and taking away from that element of nostalgia every time you mined for them
Netherite doesn't make diamonds obsolote though. Netherite can't be used to craft armor or tools directly, it can only upgrade existing diamond armor or tools.
@@shaykhmhssi3246 that's their point. You obviously vraft diamond armor to get metherite now
@@wortwortwort117 that’s not making diamonds as a resource “obsolete”. The materials are still being used for the same purpose
@@shaykhmhssi3246 That's true, although a lot of players opt for villager trading for the diamond equipment directly, so to some the mineral form is seen as redundant.
The latest snapshot changes that though, with diamonds now being required to clone netherite templates and being central to the new armor trimming feature.
@@alliinase9076 my point was that the utility of diamonds as a mineral resource wasn’t affected by the original addition of netherite, since the changes to villagers occurred prior
I wish they brought iron down to Diamond level. I still feel more excited finding diamonds than netherite, I think its their bright blue colour that makes them look precious
You have obviously never entered late game if you still get exited over diamonds. Hell, big iron vains are more exiting than finding diamonds
@@S0UPIE Yup, I used so many anvils for various stuff that it has always being nice to have a couple of spare anvils whenever I needed them, also the farms need iron, loads of iron.
Effectively, this also came at the cost of removing the necessity of both the mining and crafting aspects of *Minecraft*, as all you need to get maxed out equipment are an anvil (can naturally generate), a smithing table (same), and a few villagers/bastion chests. You never need to use a crafting table or set foot inside a single cave
I still remember my first time mining diamonds over 3 years ago. It was such a fun moment. Now, whenever I mine diamonds, it's just another diamond vein to me. I hope that diamonds will become more useful in the coming years.
Trust me, diamonds already felt like that 3 years ago. It’s just a simple fact of getting used to the game. New players that find diamonds still absolutely flip out over them.
@@sleepdeep305 Idk, just started the game then, and was watching a lot of Preston.
I expected you to have a lot more than 1.7k subs. This video is fascinating and looks and sounds very professional. Definitely underrated!
I'm glad you enjoyed the video my friend! Subs or not, quality comes first!
He has 4.26k now
@@quazyyyYT now he has 5.73K in just 20 hours lmao
I think they need to add industrial-redstone use for diamonds to craft powerful tools. For instance item pipes or autocrafting tables. This would make diamonds essential for late-game redstone farms, and at the same time (without a renewable way of obtaining them) make the demand far larger than the supply
"Too modern" - Mojang
Too moddy unfortunately
@@Tyranid_Hive_Mind We have hoppers and Crafters, stop the cap
Bad idea to make Diamonds a recipe for something so used in large bulk like pipes though, it's a limited resource, it's better if it is used for recipes that are not used in large bulk like iron
@user-tzzglsstle585e38 1) that's mojang's actual reasoning
2) this comment was before the crafter was announced
7:58 "when apples looked liked cherries with obesity"
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Yes, I really value iron over diamonds because I constantly need it to craft more and more lanterns. I can't stand just placing torches all around my world, they're so ugly I'm just sick of them.
omg yes lanterns are so pretty in almost every situations compared to torches
@@chemik1918 that's a huge waist of resources. Wood is way more common than iron.
You have a good speaking voice. Many people with asian accents are afraid to speak on video. I'm glad you're not using text to speech or anything, hearing your voice makes the channel more authentic and real.
Thank you for this, it's like in human nature to just cringe if you hear your own voice and it's comments like this that help me deal with that going forward. In fact, yeah I specifically did not want to use text to speech because I felt that it would really remove a lot of the personality the videos would have, I feel like viewers could get a feel for the video better if they could understand your tone and volume of your voiceover.
As for my asian accent, I try not to think about it too much. If people can understand me then I think my accent is just a neat little thing on the side, it helps that I also watch other asian creators such as Accented Cinema who aren't afraid to speak on their videos, and as such make me feel less like I'm out of place.
@@XayXayYT ...
I love your voice as well.
@@mlmii1933 You're too kind
@@mlmii1933 gay
Please never be afraid to speak with an accent, diverse accents are always lovely, plus it would be boring as hell if everything spoke in a ~proper~ English or American accent.
Here is my idea about diamonds: Add a refining system, where you can upgrade any armour or tools to increase the enchanting cap (too expensive message). Two birds with one stone - as not only it would make the annoying "Too expensive" to disappear, but it will also make diamonds handy to always keep while making new tools, and it may even help them add more enchants in the game.
I feel like that’d be pretty redundant because if you’re careful about it, you can pretty much get anything you want long before getting the Too Expensive prompt. I forget who it was, but there’s a popular video with someone demonstrating it’s possible to get 30 enchants before Too Expensive. With Mending in the game, you finish getting the 6 or 7 enchants you need and never think about anviling again.
@@BreezyInterwebs Let's get this straight- everyone has wasted atleast one part of armour/tools from getting max enchants due to the "Too expensive" thing. And I get that getting max enchants is very redundant, but minecraft after all is a sandbox game with no rules, so I see no point keeping this in the game. And my real point is, just as I mentioned, killing 2 birds with 1 stone, i. e. giving a new use to diamonds as well as removing a gigantic nuisance from the game.
@@EvilDudeLOLlet’s get this straight
The game has changed and their really is no reason to change diamonds
If Mojang ends up changing it that’s fine but they aren’t gonna listen to your advices that’s for sure
XayXay: Gold tools have the durability of a newborn baby with osteoporosis.
Me: HOW DID HE COME UP WITH THAT ANALOGY WHAT?!?!?!
even if diamonds lose their value which it shouldn't, you would never replace the thrill of finding diamonds accidentally. It just feels good finding them. Veteran players (such as myself) would love this resource in the start that this would still have the thrill of finding diamonds even in later updates.
Yea but the problem is, there are so much diamonds even in caves now. You can just breeze through BIG caves and find 20-30 diamonds per hour without ever mining your way through. And when i started playing, the only ways to find some were canyons or lava pools above bedrock, and getting a full set was a real achievement.
@@ДенисИванов-э9у-has not played minecraft in the last 4 years and is simply going off of videos he watched
@uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhidk 10 minutes. if you sort of try.
10 minutes from spawning in to dive into the nearest cave with nothing but a bucket of water and some logs, and quickly get diamonds.
or, you could just not even go caving. go treasure hunting, villager trading, wreck diving...
@@comet.x my guy I have two separate Minecraft worlds both in survival I play often. Both worlds had enormous caves with diamonds but it would take 3-5 hours in total to find them so I have no idea what you’re talking about.
As a new player I was mildly interested in the subject of the video but the presentation was awesome enough for me to sub. The accent, the cadence, the scripting....all was great.
Heh, I like how my accent was part of the appeal, glad you enjoyed the video!
accent for me tu@@XayXayYT
I'd think because Netherite exists. Now when you find Diamonds you're obviously not as hyped because you KNOW that there's an even better material that you can get after Diamonds. Getting Diamonds is just another step you have to take now in order to get to the best.
I personally still get quite hyped when I find Diamonds although when finding Netherite I'm even more hyped. Honestly it's also the fact that getting Netherite gear is harder compared to getting Diamond gear. The harder something is to get the better the feeling when you actually get it.
yeah, it's kind of a weird situation because netherite doesn't actually give any extra protection (it only gives knockback resistance and some other obscure stats), but it's seen as higher tier than diamond because of how rare it is
@@spacehead10 The tools and weapons deal slightly more damage too (+1) and the durability is way higher than that of Diamond meaning you don't have to repair your stuff as often so I don't think it's just because Netherite is harder to find. It's also because it's actually better than Diamond. Not the biggest difference but still a difference
@@spacehead10 also the fact that Netherite gear doesn't burn in fire or lava. If you die in lava with Netherite gear you can still recover it meanwhile Diamond gear you can't because it's gone
@@spacehead10
Toughness is a somewhat valuable stat as it reduces armor penetration, meaning you get protected from higher damage attacks more effectively (such as the Warden).
It's +3 per piece though instead of Diamond's +2, so there is *a* benefit, just probably not a significant one.
Sadly even before netherite, with my playstyle of making a new world if die (and not dying) mending and fortunate books(fisherman instead of farmer) made diamonds a thhing I go one time to mine a few ores for the 30 or so I'll need, and just walk past diamonds after that.
i have an idea for a new diamond tool:
diamond tipped buzzsaws
As someone who used to religiously follow the patch notes back in 2012 but now only plays the game once or twice a year for a week at a time, thanks for bringing me up to speed
We are getting old
@@nuclearpugg time flies
It was the village and pillage update, not only could diamonds be obtained without ever mining but obsidian to enter the nether was plentiful. When they updated again they decreased the density of villages but gave players another obi source in the form of ruined portals.
I think the issue is that because iron was easy to find and diamonds weren't, they added more interesting uses for iron because that's what you could find a lot of without a lot of difficulty. But then iron got so much value that diamonds became less and less worth it.
I really enjoyed hearing all the nether soundtracks in the background as the video played through.
Absolutely correct. It doesn’t feel the same when you get diamonds anymore. Usually you get diamonds for armor and tools but now it’s just for making netherite
True, finding diamonds doesn’t feel as satisfying as before, Once I was mining and I found diamonds and it felt as if I found coal, I made a diamond pickaxe to make a nether portal and I fell in the lava with the pickaxe and I didn’t care, I was more concerned about my map than for the pickaxe
you can just buy armor from villagers and grindtone away the bad enchantments
I love how this video came out just before armor trims were announced and gave a new use for diamonds. Maybe mojang saw this video and was like "NAW FAM!"
still isnt a significant change when it comes to gameplay its basically like when you buy a fortnite skin its nice to have but no big deal if you dont
@@callmelou5397 not true at all. The armor trims also made the netherite template. so now unless people wanna go through a dozen bastions, they need to use 5 more diamonds per netherite tool/armor.
Even then I still don’t see how diamonds are useless. It’s honestly an exaggerated problem that makes me feel more negative about netherite by tacking on more stuff you have to do than diamond.
You're very underrated bro. Hope this blows up. The quality is really impressive.
Thanks my dude! Subs or not, quality comes first and I'm glad it paid off!
Oh, I do remember the first time that I mined diamonds, I stood on the diamond and directly beneath was lava. I died and lost everything.
Ur about to blow up, I guarantee u, good editing, flow, humour, and it was generally interesting and I learnt new stuff from it, good job man, can’t wait to see more
Hey thanks my dude, glad to hear that everything was in perfect balance for you. I'm also glad to hear that you learned new stuff from it! My aim is to make entertaining videos about Minecraft that also lets them know more about the game.
Happy to have you onboard this TH-cam journey, more videos to come. :)
While I like everyone else am nostalgic for the time when diamonds were more special, I absolutely love netherite as a material for one reason: shaking the status quo with something as big as dethroning diamond items finally opens the door for more game-changers. The smithing system especially could allow for all kinds of upgrades or even, as I'd prefer, sidegrades to items we already know. Upgraded Netherite is a great mod to explore this: while some of the upgrades are a little broken, each one having its own purpose makes things more interesting and adds some longevity to a playthrough if you want them all.
your editing and comedic timing is amazing, underrated channel
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video my friend!
now in 1.20 diamonds are precious as you need to duplicate it with smelthing template for nethertite
The excitement of finding diamonds in a cave is still pretty cool but finding ancient debris is where the real excitement for me is now.
bruh thats boring... Place bed, right click, left click fires, repeat...
Ancient debris is pretty trivial to get. It's just a matter of spending a couple of minutes strip mining in the mid to late game.
I still get more pumped for diamonds with full netherite. It’s natural instinct.
@@celebrim1The first time I found ancient debris was when I went mining for nether rack for a build, I wasn't even looking for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@mikailred4111 oh so strip mining is so much more exhilarating
Clocks are phenomenally useful when underground. Would rather not mine up into night-time!
Also, good point about the diamonds as loot thing. In 2 new worlds now, my first diamonds haven't been from mining, but from exploring. Which I personally enjoy as it gives ever more reason to brave the vast expanse of the world, now that caves have many other appealing aspects. Though I can see why this lowers their subjective value at the same time.
Same in my current world (1.19)my first diamonds.. it's from a mineshaft and I am currently getting diamond gear and tools from villagers welp this video make me feel my fortune III villager kind of worthtless
Have you heard of the magic technology known only as "F3"?
@@fordprefect859 Yes and in fact I currently play with a Minimap mod which also includes a built in readout of the current time. A lot of people either don't know of or don't want to use the F3 menu for something like knowing the time, as it provides huge amounts of information which can feel cheap or cheaty to some. Being sarcastic about it isn't helpful.
Having a bed fixes the issue tho
I think the last reason is probably the most important, but not just for the reason of we found alternatives because people still do hunt for diamonds, we just got used to diamonds. If you're like me you started playing early around the late beta or early release versions when you were younger and crap at the game, getting diamonds felt like a real achievement that you worked towards and was part of the "late game". We've all gotten so good that the game, building massive structures and elaborate farms that the game only really begins once you have full diamonds, that is the prerequisite now, not the end goal. When you've collected 10's of thousands of diamonds in your life it just stops being special.
My friend and I went to 7 ancient cities trying to find a Silence armour trim, duplicated it 18 times (we were trying different colours) and still had enough diamonds left to make level 4 pure diamond beacon (yes over 2 and a half stacks of blocks).
I think the cave&cliffs update is a double edge sword for diamonds. It added deep slate stone which is much harder to mine than stone. It also increased the depth of the world which made diamonds even rarer(Seriously, I’ve mined at the past diamond level yet not even a single iron). However, this caused a problem, mining in the over world became useless. Why break thousand of pickaxes when you can just get diamonds and iron from villagers for a few emeralds.
I'd also say its a double edge sword since now you can find diamonds more easily in negative coordinate caves, so they aren't as rare (imo), but its a good change since you don't have to strip mine anymore.
@@XayXayYT still it can be extremely annoying when you have to break 10 stone pickaxes to get a single iron pickaxe.
@@Memezndreamz what? Iron isnt that rare, go explore a single mountain/hill or open cave overworld on top and can find iron, by then u can easily find more and more iron, its actually iron picks that are the most breaked
@@Chris-qb8kg I’m not talking about digging straight down or using generated caves
I’m talking about mining out a diagonal stairway which is super time consuming.
@@Memezndreamz and? still isnt as much, again seems like ur just bad
genuine shock displayed on my face when i looked at your subscriber count; i had almost choked on my food, too. your content is very high in quality, so i'm surprised more people haven't subscribed yet - i'm definitely sticking around!
Thank you so much my dude! Glad that you enjoyed the video and I'm glad to have you along this youtube journey!
The iron farm you showed at 5:50 is the exact same as the design I used! (Apart from a few modifications I made, a larger spawn platform with the lava at the center and a poppy sorting system)
same
Your first diamond: Yay! I can get Obsidian!
Your 5th: wow
Your 30th: ...ok
@@The-Piano-Guy837 and then you realize 30 diamonds can get you a full diamond armour
@@eee_eee 🤓👆erm according to my calculations it only takes 24 diamonds to make a full set not 30 🤓👆
The joy of finding that very first diamond was very memorable to me.
What ruined the value is villager trading for me.
I could always trade boats or sticks to eventually get diamond equipments...
That's actually a good point mentioning Diamond has never changed over the course of the years compared to iron and gold
For me it was the moment when people learned how to mine them efficiently.
Strip mining did put a pretty big dent in their rarity yeah, but it wasn't as big as the other changes imo.
Agree
They know where to find it because of the altitude
Minecraft should step up and work with it this time
finding diamonds will never get boring
@@MrSpace5260 It's too easy now bro
@@Meowerenchan still
DIAMONDS JUST GOT A NEW USE IN THE NEWEST SNAPSHOT RELEASED TODAY LET"S GOOOOOOOOOO
I just mined diamonds for the while diamond beacon. And it still feels satisfying to randomly find diamond after that anyway. Gotta mine them all! By the way, diamond ores may look like a really neat detail in some builds. Especially if you use some shaders that make them glow
That's why I love playing older versions every now and then (mostly Beta 1.7.3) because it feels way more exciting to find diamonds (and even other resources such as iron).
Yep, I've been told Beta 1.7.3 was the last "classic" Minecraft version to play. I should give it a try myself too someday.
@@XayXayYT hey bro I wanted to say that there was a bug that existed when armor was added till beta 1.7.3 and it made armor and tools lose durability faster and that is why finding iron and diamonds is exciting
@@Alanboss777 Neat! Thanks for letting me know.
@@XayXayYT I think it was only in the alpha versions, I might be wrong though
Amazing video! The quality of this video is extremely high and conveys its point smoothly. Definitely looking forward to more content created by you!
Thanks a lot my dude, glad to have you along this TH-cam journey!