I have the bilstein SG5 coilovers on mine and LOVE THEM, i was told they are a factory option from japan apparently, I got them from a jdm parts importer from canada and not only does my girlfriend love them (she daily's our auto XT, and it needed new shocks, i drive the 5spd Daily) but they also fixed the saggy butt syndrome, and didn't drop the ride height too much so we can still take the car to the mountain and have fun, speed bumps are no problem, but made the car super stable and planted at 80+mph, but coupled with the perring F&Rsway bars we installed (stock wheels and tires till spring/summer get to the PNW) the car almost feels too rear end twitchy, may have to adjust settings on the RSB.... We did our first autoX with this setup and was unable to get the car to swing the rear end, but I wasn't trying too hard, got distracted trying to keep up with the unlimited class STi's in the field.... did pretty good, came in 5th overall out of 12 in my class (4EAT 224whp, 276wtq @ 18psi on vf39 w/250K miles) Personally, I'd keep it on the stock suspension for a little while and put some miles on it so that you are really familiar with how much difference each piece makes rather than throwing it all on at once and wondering which part made what difference.... if any...., replace the bushings for sure, I went Whiteline again and replaced every single bushing possible, this made a big difference in taking out the slop of the suspension, added a few creaks here and there when cold, but definitely worth it... especially the front lower control arm bushing with the castor correction, the ones from Whiteline, which made turn-in much more crisp and confidence inspiring I'm jealous of your Subi-Performance block, that thing must be a kick in the pants!! Did I miss a tuning video, or what are you doing for engine management? (Nevermind, I didn't watch the whole video...... Now I see the Cobb AP V2 in what my brother always described as the gaping hole in my dash till i finally installed my gauges) Do we get to see the power curve after the dyno day?
I will have to look in into the coils you mentioned. Coilovers are for sure in the Fozzy's future. So are all new bushings. It is time for it all to be replaced anyway being a 2004. I think it will be a kick in the pants once I finish the break in time and get her pro tuned. I am just over 500 miles... so I am getting there. I have not been driving much with everything going on these days. As far as engine management I have the AP V3. And since you are familiar with Subi Performance you should know of Alex, Andi's Tuner. He has set up my "break-in" tune and will the one pro tuning it. Haha so no, you have not missed a Tuning video. It will be happening in the near future.
I have watched several videos on how to remove the long lateral link outer retaining bolt. This is the first one where they thought to pound on the old lateral links to help get that bolt out. Beats having to use a torch if you can avoid it. Good job!!
Thank you I appreciate that. I was really surprised at just how hard it was to remove the driver side. It was definitely a pain to get out. But it was a learning experience and I enjoyed it.
@@AdrianBilladeau I'm getting ready to replace the lateral links and trailing arms on the 100K mile Bugeye i bought new 20 years ago. Unfortunately they salt the roads where i live 😒. I already soaked all the fasteners in PB Blaster (twice) to prepare. Have a 580 Ft-Lb impact wrench, 2 Lb sledge, 6 point wrenches, punch, Dremel, sawzall, drill etc.. Hoping to avoid having to buy a torch but will if i have to. Yeah, working on these cars is half the fun of owning them. Wish me luck! UPDATE: The weather finally got nice enough to work on this. I must be living right. I soaked all the gaps around the long bolt with PB Blaster three times. Hit the nut with my impact wrench and it came right out!
I'm not sure if this happens to foresters but imprezas were prone to flipping the sway bar under the lateral link when lowering the car back onto the ground. When the suspension is unloaded the bar geometry can guide itself under the link if you aren't aware of it. Just make sure the bar stays kinda pointed up as you lower it and you'll be cool. Makes a crazy clunk if you get it wrong and your car will lean
Hi Mark! Yea, I believe they share the bar flip issue. The Kartboy drop links are just a bit longer than stock to help with this issue. If I am being completely honest, I do not know if that particular sway bar will stay once lowering the Fozzy. We shall see. Thanks for watching and also for the comment. Cheers!
yep, definitely happens, I'm told its because most people use impreza RSB, which is a little too short, or too long, I forget honestly, and it causes the bar to flip. Even with the Kartboy drop links..... even at stock ride height. Just have to be careful when lifting and lowering the car. OR scour the internet and find an oldschool Cobb Forester SPECIFIC sway bar with the original fully adjustable stout bushing mounts with greasable bushings, I haven't installed it yet but I'm told I won't have to worry about that with this setup
I am slowly getting this car the way that I want it! Next will be new bushings all the way around and probably STI front control arms. Should I run new shocks with some nice lowering springs or get a decent set of clovers? Let me know what you think.
Nice video! I'm looking to do the same thing to my Forester soon, but I was wondering how many washers and self locking nuts were required for the install. I wanna make sure I order enough of each before I start on this. Thanks!
There are 6 total bolts. Two on each side mounting into the subframe and one long bolt mounting the control arms to the hub. The long one can be a pain to remove to have some good solvent.
Yea, I love me some non snowy areas... at least for my cars. Way less maintenance to keep up with. I totally forgot to add the part #s to the description. I will get them in there tonight or tomorrow.
Totally forgot to mention it earlier, but all of the part #s are in the description of the video if you are interested in doing this upgrade. I guess also you could reference the exact models the parts were on. Cheers!
Dude..... how much did these cost you??? I've been wanting to upgrade to these forever, but not wanting to drop almost $500USD on a set of aluminum lateral links. Thanks for letting me live vicariously through you!
Yes. If I remember correctly, the lat control arms are the same from 04 to 08. So any in that window should be a direct replacement. Also the part numbers are in the video description if you need them. Cheers.
@@eze8024 yea, one is just slightly longer than the other. Definitely a great upgrade though. I am , hopefully getting the STI front control arms installed soon. Another fantastic upgrade for the Fozzy.
@@AdrianBilladeau I just reconditioned my stock rear suspension including the lateral links, and I didn't notice that at all. The difference must be super small. Mind you, I never actually checked or measured, just didnt notice.
easiest thing to cut it on the side where bolt seizes ,and its towards front .The other side will just come out. Dont even need to losen bolt since you are cutting it out .You cant resuse lateral links anyways,so why not just replace them .
I definitely put a thin layer both in the knuckle and on the new bolt. I have also reapplied every time I have removed it. Definitely makes life a lot easier.
@@AdrianBilladeau defenetly my friend those bolts are a pain on the ass,I have to replace the rear nuckles, lateral arms and trailing arm and I'm replacing every bolt to make it easier
I have the bilstein SG5 coilovers on mine and LOVE THEM, i was told they are a factory option from japan apparently, I got them from a jdm parts importer from canada and not only does my girlfriend love them (she daily's our auto XT, and it needed new shocks, i drive the 5spd Daily) but they also fixed the saggy butt syndrome, and didn't drop the ride height too much so we can still take the car to the mountain and have fun, speed bumps are no problem, but made the car super stable and planted at 80+mph, but coupled with the perring F&Rsway bars we installed (stock wheels and tires till spring/summer get to the PNW) the car almost feels too rear end twitchy, may have to adjust settings on the RSB.... We did our first autoX with this setup and was unable to get the car to swing the rear end, but I wasn't trying too hard, got distracted trying to keep up with the unlimited class STi's in the field.... did pretty good, came in 5th overall out of 12 in my class (4EAT 224whp, 276wtq @ 18psi on vf39 w/250K miles)
Personally, I'd keep it on the stock suspension for a little while and put some miles on it so that you are really familiar with how much difference each piece makes rather than throwing it all on at once and wondering which part made what difference.... if any...., replace the bushings for sure, I went Whiteline again and replaced every single bushing possible, this made a big difference in taking out the slop of the suspension, added a few creaks here and there when cold, but definitely worth it... especially the front lower control arm bushing with the castor correction, the ones from Whiteline, which made turn-in much more crisp and confidence inspiring
I'm jealous of your Subi-Performance block, that thing must be a kick in the pants!! Did I miss a tuning video, or what are you doing for engine management? (Nevermind, I didn't watch the whole video...... Now I see the Cobb AP V2 in what my brother always described as the gaping hole in my dash till i finally installed my gauges) Do we get to see the power curve after the dyno day?
I will have to look in into the coils you mentioned. Coilovers are for sure in the Fozzy's future. So are all new bushings. It is time for it all to be replaced anyway being a 2004.
I think it will be a kick in the pants once I finish the break in time and get her pro tuned. I am just over 500 miles... so I am getting there. I have not been driving much with everything going on these days.
As far as engine management I have the AP V3. And since you are familiar with Subi Performance you should know of Alex, Andi's Tuner. He has set up my "break-in" tune and will the one pro tuning it.
Haha so no, you have not missed a Tuning video. It will be happening in the near future.
I have watched several videos on how to remove the long lateral link outer retaining bolt. This is the first one where they thought to pound on the old lateral links to help get that bolt out. Beats having to use a torch if you can avoid it. Good job!!
Thank you I appreciate that. I was really surprised at just how hard it was to remove the driver side. It was definitely a pain to get out. But it was a learning experience and I enjoyed it.
@@AdrianBilladeau I'm getting ready to replace the lateral links and trailing arms on the 100K mile Bugeye i bought new 20 years ago. Unfortunately they salt the roads where i live 😒. I already soaked all the fasteners in PB Blaster (twice) to prepare. Have a 580 Ft-Lb impact wrench, 2 Lb sledge, 6 point wrenches, punch, Dremel, sawzall, drill etc.. Hoping to avoid having to buy a torch but will if i have to. Yeah, working on these cars is half the fun of owning them. Wish me luck!
UPDATE: The weather finally got nice enough to work on this. I must be living right. I soaked all the gaps around the long bolt with PB Blaster three times. Hit the nut with my impact wrench and it came right out!
I'm not sure if this happens to foresters but imprezas were prone to flipping the sway bar under the lateral link when lowering the car back onto the ground. When the suspension is unloaded the bar geometry can guide itself under the link if you aren't aware of it. Just make sure the bar stays kinda pointed up as you lower it and you'll be cool. Makes a crazy clunk if you get it wrong and your car will lean
Hi Mark! Yea, I believe they share the bar flip issue. The Kartboy drop links are just a bit longer than stock to help with this issue. If I am being completely honest, I do not know if that particular sway bar will stay once lowering the Fozzy. We shall see. Thanks for watching and also for the comment. Cheers!
yep, definitely happens, I'm told its because most people use impreza RSB, which is a little too short, or too long, I forget honestly, and it causes the bar to flip. Even with the Kartboy drop links..... even at stock ride height. Just have to be careful when lifting and lowering the car. OR scour the internet and find an oldschool Cobb Forester SPECIFIC sway bar with the original fully adjustable stout bushing mounts with greasable bushings, I haven't installed it yet but I'm told I won't have to worry about that with this setup
I am slowly getting this car the way that I want it! Next will be new bushings all the way around and probably STI front control arms. Should I run new shocks with some nice lowering springs or get a decent set of clovers? Let me know what you think.
i put an 07 sti steering rack on my sg forester
Cool! Is it a very different feel? I have not read up to much on this swap but I am aware that it is common.
Haha “for the win!!” That was a good feeling I’m sure!
It was indeed!
Thanks bro great content your videos has given me the confidence to tackle most projects on my fozzy and saved me so much 💰🙏🏾👌🏽👍🏽💪🏾
Whew! That’s is fantastic. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that.
Great Video Directore forester ! 🚀🚀🚀
Thanks Andi! I passed all inspections today! I will be making a visit in the near future.
Your videos and products are amazing. Please expand to America! I will work for parts!
@@bmoore8853 He will ship to you!
Looking forward to doing my rear arms 😅 actually looking forward to letting some aggression out lol
Hahahha! Hopefully the “Jesus “ bolts don’t give you any issues.
@@AdrianBilladeau oh it will lol so far seen 3 Michigan winters
Nice video! I'm looking to do the same thing to my Forester soon, but I was wondering how many washers and self locking nuts were required for the install. I wanna make sure I order enough of each before I start on this. Thanks!
There are 6 total bolts. Two on each side mounting into the subframe and one long bolt mounting the control arms to the hub. The long one can be a pain to remove to have some good solvent.
Nice job Adrian!
I appreciate it Brent!
Watching this video has made me appreciate living along the equator even more, lol! Great vid. Part numbers for the STi lateral links?
Yea, I love me some non snowy areas... at least for my cars. Way less maintenance to keep up with. I totally forgot to add the part #s to the description. I will get them in there tonight or tomorrow.
Just added all part #s that I used to the video description.
@@AdrianBilladeau Thanks, man. 👍
Were these lateral links from a 2005 sti? did you have a factory sway bar?
@Hamm’sContracting I don’t know the specific year but 04 or 05. And no, my sway bar is not a factory one.
Totally forgot to mention it earlier, but all of the part #s are in the description of the video if you are interested in doing this upgrade. I guess also you could reference the exact models the parts were on. Cheers!
I've been banging my head against many walls trying to figure out what the part number for replacement pillow ball bushings is... anyone?
What is the year? 20257XA000 is all I have came up with. Seems to fit a wide variety of Subarus between 2006 and current models.
Wooow nice mine came with those from japan
Thanks! I appreciate it. It’s odd the differences between a US car and a car from Japan.
Dude..... how much did these cost you??? I've been wanting to upgrade to these forever, but not wanting to drop almost $500USD on a set of aluminum lateral links. Thanks for letting me live vicariously through you!
These cost me $350 I believe. I would have to look at my receipt. Like I said in the video, huge improvement!
Do these offer adjustable camber like the white links?
Unfortunately no. A camber bolt is needed unless you op for the adjustable set up.
Are the lateral links from an 05-07 sti?
Yes. If I remember correctly, the lat control arms are the same from 04 to 08. So any in that window should be a direct replacement. Also the part numbers are in the video description if you need them. Cheers.
Do the front lateral links fit in the rear lateral link position? I have no sways and would like 4 front links if possible
Well the links are two different lengths so probably not.
@@AdrianBilladeau dang, I didn't know they were different lengths 👍
@@eze8024 yea, one is just slightly longer than the other. Definitely a great upgrade though. I am , hopefully getting the STI front control arms installed soon. Another fantastic upgrade for the Fozzy.
@@AdrianBilladeau I just reconditioned my stock rear suspension including the lateral links, and I didn't notice that at all. The difference must be super small.
Mind you, I never actually checked or measured, just didnt notice.
easiest thing to cut it on the side where bolt seizes ,and its towards front .The other side will just come out. Dont even need to losen bolt since you are cutting it out .You cant resuse lateral links anyways,so why not just replace them .
Niceee... do you have website on where you got em?
Hi! Thanks for watching and for the comment. I picked up my lateral links from Import Car Parts. They are based in the UK.
Adrian Billadeau do you have there website online store site?
@@BaiMoto24 www.importcarparts.co.uk
Any idea if all this would fit on a 98 forester?
Jason Chan I am not 100% sure that these specific lateral links would fit your model. I would assume that it is possible though.
Adrian Billadeau tha is for the reply. These things are awesome!
Jason Chan totally agree!
He should of put antisisze on that bolt before installing it
I definitely put a thin layer both in the knuckle and on the new bolt. I have also reapplied every time I have removed it. Definitely makes life a lot easier.
@@AdrianBilladeau defenetly my friend those bolts are a pain on the ass,I have to replace the rear nuckles, lateral arms and trailing arm and I'm replacing every bolt to make it easier
i wanna like the video but the number is just too nice....
So you dislike it?