No Place For Kids | Full-Length Prison Documentary
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 เม.ย. 2022
- Elsewhere on this channel we've featured juvenile justice documentaries that feature kids who spend time in the juvenile justice system for many different reason. In this follow-up documentary, we revisit some of their stories and then take a look at how things were going 7 years later. Filmed between 2000-2007, this documentary illuminates how kids and families make their way through the juvenile justice system and exactly what's involved at every turn.
2022 UPDATE: Joshua is now doing well and has a full time job and a young son. His mom and stepdad have divorced.
DeLena finished her college degree and works full time as an office manager. She has 4 boys and has traveled the globe working with non-profit organizations. She and Gavin maintain a great relationship.
Raymond was never back in the criminal justice system. We have since lost contact with the family.
All contact has been lost with Chelsea.
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I see family trauma stacking up generation after generation. With limited to no healing. This lady judge is doing above and beyond with compassion and hope. We need EVERY part of our broken system to follow her.
Shouldn't this judge mandate birth control ?? Not to mention tax payers are paying for a fkd up system these kids have been in jail since they were elementary these parents are to blame
This Indiana judge is wonderful. She is so practical, and caring!
What 18 year old can really manage without lots of help? I believe foster care should continue until age 21, it could be so different. Kids should be able to make mistakes without loosing their support network. Nobody is grown-at 18.
‘Nobody is grown at 18.’
That depends on the kid.
Kids who can prove that they are able to provide for themselves can be legally emancipated as young as 16.
It's crazy that no one has put any thought into the amount of medications that poor girl has been put on could be the reason for her behavior. Makes me so sad.
@Natosha - very sad indeed. :(
I wouldnt live with a violent kid. Been there, done that. We put up with his violent crap til he was an adult. As a kid, had him in therapy. Gave him a good education, hes a college graduate. He never abandoned his violent ways. Disowned him when he turned 29. Its been 8 years, havent seen him since. I did tell him that if he shows up at my home, I will call police, have him arrested.
Good riddance to him. I no longer have to live with crazy, violent drama.
your comment is much needed in this comment section
As a grandparent who finally got custody of my 13 yr. old grandson who was in foster care for three years (I had two strokes and had to recover before I could get him), foster care is no better for children. That one young lady is an exception to the case. My grandson was eight years old when I got him out and has told me horror stories of when he was in there. I've had him for five years now . In one home, they thought he was raped, another home was closed for abuse. They put those kids on pschycotropic drugs that messes up their young brains. I slowly weaned him off of Vivance (do research on this drug) and Abilify. Children are nothing but a comodity to CPS. DCS will not leave us alone. My grandson has good consequences and not so good consequences for his behavior. Thank you for your time and hope for the best for us.
Best of luck to you, and your grandson. I really understand what you mean when you talk about those destructive medicines. I recently found out, but always suspected it. The fact that 80 new diagnosis had been added to the DSM3, including the most ridiculous names for the disorders one can have, blows my mind. How they wrote down the symptoms, and just guessed their way through the process, a handful of pcychiatrists. People should be very careful of those medicines. It shrinks the frontal lobe. The kids becomes zombies.
I'm just seeing this for the first time, it's 10 months old now😅 but I hope you and your grandson are thriving!! Thank goodness he has you as a stable and solid advocat!!
When they put little kids on these crazy drugs it arrest there development at that age. Not to mention the toxic damage it does to their young brains and God only knows what their futures will look like after poisoning their brains.
Far too often the case and those adopted too. And if they speak out they are called liars and if a third party comes forward with evidence the child gets ( moved again sometimes to secure units off the back of lies to cover the inadequacies / abuse in care provided / failures of authorities) punished not the DeFacto parents / guardian's.
The judge is outstanding. Madam you are a star.
That lady should have given her a chance for the checks like a real mother would have.
I'm so glad to see this whole documentary. You guys keep up the great work
@Janice A - Greatly appreciate that! Thanks for being here with us and taking the time to comment!
Chelsea’s story really upset me bless her hope things get better soon the most painful thing I’ve ever seen
I was lucky that my Grandmother and great grandmother saved me at age 8. What a Blessing to of had the rasing of very old fashion great grandmother and hip grandma. Always felt i had the best of both Worlds. Never missed the horrible life i came from. To be with someone Special that you can TRUST, YOU CAN BELIEVE WHAT THEY SAY. THE PATIENCE and Understanding HEY HAD with me was REMARKABLE !!! GOD IS GOOD!
Grandma’s have been HERO’s for decades!
One of the most heart wrenching documentaries I have ever seen.
@jambocoo - the child welfare system is too often a very, very sad place. While we've seen happy endings, the stories are indeed heart wrenching. We appreciate you watching. We think these are important stories to tell.
All these judges were incredible. I loved when Judge Payne told Ray that what happened to him was of no concern to him, he only cared about the children. He also decided that instead of complaining about the child welfare system he would jump ship and become a director and beacon of hope for the children. Judges Taliaferro and Bonaventura are empathetic, caring but by no means pushovers. They are a credit to the court system. As for the kids I worry about Chelsea being on her own at 18. She has never really made decisions for herself that impact her well being. Little Ray has some learning disabilities but also seems very anxious. He understands things beyond his years. Ray (the Father) seems like the kind of guy who won't do well outside a prison setting. Delena changed in some good and bad ways. She has another son, she's engaged and in college. That is awesome. However, she still seems to play the blame game. She says she is still Gavin's Mom but honestly, Kathy deserves that title. Delena will always be his biological Mother but Kathy is his Mom. She puts up with the big and little problems, the illnesses, the homework, the everyday dilemmas. Selena also said nobody cared about her before which is a lie. Kathy invited her and Gavin into her home with trust and love and made it their home, too. Delena stole and forged checks from Kathy and irrevocably betrayed that bond and trust but Kathy is still there for her and always has been. I wish all these people-the kids, fosters, families, social workers and judges the best.
Thank You for the follow-ups! It's such a rarity when watching so many docs from years ago, to actually see updates. 👏🏼
@Red Rocks 1983 - glad you could see/read it. Some others couldn't so we're trying to respond to them in the comments section to give them the updates. Thanks for watching!
Love the judge
Seems like if you're so sad about your son being sent away for many months, and you're going to cry about how much you love him, etc that maybe when you were saying goodbye to him you could have put in at leas a little bit of effort into making him feel loved. That was disappointing.
This judge is the best💕
Thank you for your so laborious yet very important work Calamari!
Thank you @Fay Kouri!!
What an amazing judge♡
Isn’t she?! And not just a fantastic judge…but beautiful inside and out. A lovely, compassionate judge yet stern without being cruel. When she says she’s disappointed in Connie for instance, it’s not to overuse shame as a method of torture but rather, as the learning tool that’s been evolutionarily wired within us. For just such purposes. Similar to pain. Not pleasant but necessary to us for our survival. She uses her place as a judge-her power so to speak-in the exact way she should in my opinion. Kudos your Honor!
Hands down my absolutely favorite channel, although I do love my true crime channels but NOTHING tops u guys
@Lisa Lavigne - well that just made our night! Thank you thank you! 🥰
I'm so happy to hear that Kathy and Dalina have improved their relationship
Does Davina have a choice? Kathy literally said that she wouldn't let her have her son back and look what happened... she stole her son. Now Kathy can dangle her son over her head.
@@cicada38 it was the best thing for everyone.
@@stacitowery3475 No it wasn't... what about her son? Can you imagine your mom having to battle a stranger for you? You think that it is best for him to live with Kathy over his own mother?
Over a lousy 400?
@@cicada38 I don't care if it was $20, the fact is she's a thief, and Kathy was nothing but supportive and nice to her.
@@cicada38
I hear you, Amy! Kathy said she took them in because SHE wanted a family. The way I see things, she took the opportunity to legally steal Deleana's baby over $400! She SAID, "I'm afraid that Deleana will take Gavin, and then I'll never see him again - and I couldn't bear that". BUT HE'S NOT HER CHILD! She shouldn't be legally able to force Deleana to hand over her baby - over $400. I can't imagine how Gavin will feel when he figures out what his adopted mother did in order to get him. But he's going to grow up one day, Kathy! And despite all the brainwashing, he's going to work everything out for himself.
I paused this video when my heart dropped to the floor after hearing the reporter say, "If only it could have stayed this way."
@Troth Sential - Never a line we like to have to say in stories like this. Unfortunately, sad things happen far too often. Appreciate you watching.
@@CalamariProductions, thank you for covering these stories. I want to say more, but it's 0500 EDT. I woke up to grab some water and will be back to sleep again shortly. I'd like to woigh in on this further, but my eyelids are drooping.
Goodnight
@@CalamariProductions, Crap, it's not good night. The sun will be up soon. In any case, I'm going back to sleep. Thank you again for covering these kids in a sterile one size fits all fashion. Their stories are emblematic of issues within the juvenile justice system.
They're also all unique. It takes a warm empathetic heart to document their stories.
As a related aside, thank you for updating us on how they're doing.
1st time watching im addicted
@Maria Zapata - Thank you! Glad to have you here on our channel with us! :)
Thank you calamari productions
Our pleasure!
This Judge seems to be so fair and down to earth, thinking of what is best for the kids to help them become adults. I'm very shocked that there is no way to track the kids. Once they are adults, of course I realize they must be on their own, but until that time they should be able to be tracked across the country to prevent a family member from abducting them or harming them and their extended families.
I’m amazed at the woman judge in this case, she is amazing. God put her where she needs to be.
There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul than the way in which it treats it's children.
Nelson Mandela
Thank you mrsBrown you’re such a beautiful person!
Chelsea was getting dumped with strangers of course she was going to be upset and cry. Some people shouldn’t have children if they can’t cope. Chelsea might have foetal alcohol syndrome. A lot of these parents think more of their partners or might be on drugs or alcohol and think more of the substances than their children. Some ppl don’t deserve to have children.
I cried for this 17yr old. She is such a fighter, with such a bad mom , she did her best to be the best she can. One mistake. She learned her lesson, I am happy for her.
She's an actress with a cliche for every situation
I have posted the following in other presentations, but I will repeat it here:
DO NOT bring another man into your house until your kids are grown. This is an ongoing issue!
Obviously the mother has no idea how to parent, She was certainly alot bigger than Josh, She doesn't want to be bothered
She was even almost smiling in the interview afterwards. How does she get to hand him over to the state without the father having a chance to take custody instead.
@@cheekymonkey5621 who knows ? this boy has problems, the custody of his father may not be a solution anyway
great documentary. i so hope they all are doing really great
This judge is such a awesome thoughtful judge
Great video
GREAT VID
Great documentary ,seen it a few years back !
@Heather Bowlan - Thanks! Appreciate it!
Thanks for the updates.
@marytimmons9790 - You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Saving for her college and you want to be considered her mom… yes there should be punishment for stealing but criminal charges? You potentially ruin that girls life. Idk how y’all are saying she’s an angel. She’s barely that. A mom normally wouldn’t automatically seek out criminal charges for their daughter stealing $400. She has a kid, she’s had a hard life. If you want to help her how do you think putting her into the criminal system is helping? Potentially giving her a criminal record. Pretty ridiculous imo.
She got what she wanted to be a mother just to someone else's son.... i think she realized she could get Gavin by turning his mum into the police. Poor Gavin his mum made a mistake and he was taken away forever. It's really sad
If Delena were my child this would not have ended up in court. She would have been disciplined and we would have moved on.
What’s wrong with you? Forgery is a crime. How often do you think foster mothers take in pregnant teens and save for their college? How often do you think these same foster mothers let them stay as long as they want?
screwed up people do screwed up things.
I agree and then she stole her son ...
Third story.. That Mother obviously CANT care for her kids properly! A son and daughter in the system?! WTF?! if she can’t handle having kids she shouldn’t. I hope the kids make out OK…..🙏🏻
lisa...
Thank God that you never have to deal with any of your children having a severe mental illness!
Absolutely heartbroken watching this it put things into respective I'm rooting for them all ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Good documentary, but such sad stories.
Heartbreaking documentary but very well done. Love Lester Holts voice
Awee Kathy… we need more people like you! 💕
This was so hard to watch as a child who spent most of her life in Care through her mum's neglect I would'nt say you become dependable upon the system the complete opposite for me. Even as an adult I don't think I'll ever be free of the system it's always there in your head,
My heart broke for that little girl being left in that place by her mum never knowing if she would see her again because so many adults break their promises.
Whilst I do'nt doubt that for some children they find it hard to love
How can you give love when nobody's shown you what love is?
I love my children unconditionally, for a long while I did not love myself because I never felt worthy of love and being loved but it does'nt mean you cannot love.
What an excellent judge ❤️👏🏽❤️
God bless the people who actually care and work hard to do their jobs to the best of their ability
@tonigomez7919 - well said. It can be thankless work.
So heartbreaking 💔💔
We need to start shutting down some prisons and open an equal amount of inpatient and outpatient mental health facilities.
Oh, I agree with you there. There are many other improvements to the system that should be undertaken also, rather than total intervention. For example, Chelsea was just a very wilful child - and I've no doubt that her mother struggled with her. But there are effective ways of dealing with extremely wilful children. With the system itself allowing parents to just dump them in a place like Daymar - which is essentially a juvenile delinquent institution - instead of teaching her mother better parenting skills and how to bring up her own daughter in ways that would nurture her desire to be 'a good girl' - would have been a far better solution. But do those services exist? When it was time for Chelsea to go home to her mother, she STILL wasn't wanted. Instead she went to a foster home - which didn't work out (it didn't say why), and she was returned to Daymar. How much rejection can that poor child take?! At least they were focused on teaching her independence - because she's going to be 100% on her own when the institution is done with her! She seems like a bright girl - and I hope to all heck that the system was willing to pay for her College education! They OWE HER that much at least. Without a higher education, I fail to see what kind of 'secure future' that young girl might have been able to make for herself when she did find herself all alone in the world - as I'm sure happened. Unfortunately her later story was not told in this documentary and no details are included in the description - so I can only hope that she has been able to stay very strong and go it alone successfully. The reality is more likely that she would suffer life-long fears of rejection and low self-esteem due to being unwanted. This usually leads to making bad partner choices later in life because they think they're not 'worthy' of a better one. Any 'love' is often considered to be better than no love to unwanted children who become adults. And if you're reading this, Chelsea - I do hope I'm VERY wrong about that, Sweetheart - Because you're worth a hundred of your mother and others who have ever let you down : )
agree
Need both
My God the drug companies would love that. You don't know what you're talking about
@@DrJ-hx7wv Where do you hang your diploma and shingle?
I find this interesting because in my family's aspect im related to one of these kids and see that individual my cousin daily
Omg this is so heartbreaking
How horrible for Chelsea.. that age, left by her mom, scared, afraid, no one she knows or trusts . Heart breaking .
I'd rather get hit by a bus than ever give up on my children
We need to be better parents so we can raise better children so they can raise better children. We can’t medicate emotions and think it’s all better.
I’m so glad Chelsea’s mom stayed an active party of her daughters life. I was worried her mom would abandon her. I wish Chelsea all the best and a Prosperous Adult life!
I’ve seen the first girls video before, it shocked me when she took off. But things happen from time to time
@Ash & Emi - yes, she was featured in the original documentary we produced and then we followed up years later. You're very right - -things happen from time to time, especially when it involves teenagers. We always hope for the best and hope age and maturity allows them to have a more settled life. Thanks for commenting. Hope you've had a great weekend!! :)
I often wonder about these kids histories. I was a teacher and I would hear and read about some of the student's family history- multiple step parents/boyfriends of Mom- Dad just took off/drugs-alcohol....these kids start off way in the deficit.
THE SYSTEM NEVER FIXED ANYONE. THEY NEED THE RETURN FOR THE REVENUE.
Yes indeed
As someone who’s own mother gave her up to the state, I cannot imagine how these kids are feeling and the immense amount of pain they will have to face in their life. The boys mom smiling ab it while talking after is deplorable. More times than not, ITS THE PARENTS!! All I know is courts, jails, and the system are not the answers. I aged out. They don’t pay for college or help u in any way. I’ve been on medicaid my entire life. I’m 38 and while stable now, the majority of my life was really hard. I have a lot of trauma, a criminal record, a history of substance abuse/addiction, & BPD. But hey! Let’s ban abortions bc that makes sense. 🥴
i admire your strenght and contribution
Bless your precious, honest heart 💞💝💞
What a horrific age for Chelsea to be surrendered! My heart bleeds for this little girl but what’s a mother to do. I’m so blessed to have never been out in such a terrible situation. I Pray Chelsea is able to be reunited with her family.
Connie is over meditated
I DON'T BLAME JOSHUA FOR THE WAY HIS MOTHER IGNORES HIM THE MOTHER FAVOURS HIS SISTER
Completely agree....mommy out chasing boys after dumping her previous husband. Step daddy isn't daddy at all, and you could tell by how he acted in the video he had nothing to do with Joshua except for whatever trouble he could get the kid into...he doesn't want to do anything to help Joshua, he's completely for getting him out of his way so he can have his way with mommy...surprised the sister hasn't been included in the shoving out of the house. Step dad acts as if Joshua is just in his way, and a burden to him, rather than stepping up and being the dad, he steps up to be a problem.
Sounds like mommy and step daddy want Joshua in the system so they don't have to deal with him rather than letting him go live with his dad...story stays 1 sided that way by ignoring Joshua's need for help, and not wanting to be around his mom and her useless boyfriend.
Josh knows what's going on, the system failed, as did his mother, and worthless step father.
I feel bad for Joshua. Clearly he’s a confused kid who doesn’t understand why he isn’t allowed to speak to his bio-dad. Teenagers get angry & act out when they’re confused & lonely.
Guessing Joshua’s stepdad didn’t do anything to build a good relationship with him either.
Hope he’s in a better place today & living his best life!
@@wildbill23c Omg. i thought im the only one that have this feeling. Yes im very agree with u. It hurts alot watching Joshua. I hope he got the best in his life 😭
@@wildbill23c CALAMARI HAVE MADE A COUPLE OF DOCUMENTARIES SOLELY ON JOSHUA. MY HEART ACHES AND BREAKS FOR THIS CHILD! I COULD HARDLY WATCH THESE DOCUMENTARIES. IN FACT, AT TIMES I CAUGHT MYSELF TEARING UP...WHAT A SOFT SOUL HE HAS AND I JUST WANT TO KEEP WATCHING HIS GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT. HIS MOTHER AND STEPFATHER AHOULD BE LOCKED UP IN THE CELLS WHERE HE WAS LOCKED UP IN AS AN EARLY CHILD! I CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR JOSHUA. THANK YOU CALAMARI FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND HARD WORK ON THESE BEAUTIFUL AND EDUCATIONAL DOCUMENTARIES!!!
His mother is disgusting! Just giving up her kid like that. She brought him here and then just left him like that. What a dirty b!tch.
Gosh, the part where she left Chelsea at the behavioral center was gut wrenching
I wanted tp hold Delena and say... yep You messed up for a boy didnt you but you did one bad thing in 12 years despite the statitistics being stacked against yiu so dont let it define you.
I think she showed remorse and was surprisd that Kathy felt otherwise.. Sure it was a huge let down after her stellar record but we know that foster children can struggle after disrupted childhoods and messing up can be part of their journey. .I do understand the 5 day punishment in secure lockup...it was the right thing as showed her where she was heading if she continued down that road. I was sad that she gave up her first child but can see why she did it ...A real expression of love ..she wanted her son to feel safe and didnt want any more disruption for him. That must have been really tough for her especially for someone who had 15 foster homes during childhood. . I wish you all the love in the world Delena ...Youve been through so much and I pray you can see your potential. You are a courageous soul with so much to offer the world . Continue to share your story so that others who havent had a fair start in life can be encouraged too and see lifes possibilities. I believe in you Delena and see a great future for you. . Godbless you girl.
CONNI SURE RACKED UP 20 DISCIPLINARY REPORTS SHE SHOULD'VE GOTTEN ADSEG
I can't believe she pressed charges! If it were her real daughter I feel as though she wouldn't. Teens make mistakes and need caregivers who will make appropriate decisions upon disciplining them to protect them from themselves. The foster mom was way too dramatic. She should have had a teaspoon of real life experience but instead she got a full Bowl and ended up with the criminal record I don't believe that other parents would do this because it would set their child up for a very hard life. That just seems completely opposite of what your parents are there to teach you and to give you and to be part of. Tough love is great and everything, but in reality it's just tough and it's not love
I agree. Delena was most likely unconsciously testing to see if the foster mom truly had the unconditional love for her that she claimed. Turned out the foster mom didn’t. Foster parents should expect that kind of behavior and be prepared to deal with it. With the way the foster mom ostentatiously grabbed that Kleenex in court from in front of Delena, she just wanted to show how hurt she was.
@@anhingasnakebird9947 No. You don't steal. Delana was wrong.
I can't understand, why are they allowed to have more kids after giving up their first one? This is just heartbreaking. Poor orphans with living parents..
I agree. I have had mothers tell me I'm lucky that I don't have to put up with them all day.
Then the next time I see them they are pregnant again. SMH
These are all symptoms of women having children that shouldn't be. 😭
This is heartbreaking 💔 this little girl 9 years old !!!no help unless a parent gives up their rights !? Why not give the parents better resources a structured plan no t drugging a kid
Delena everything in life ISNT YOUR FAULT and don’t allow anyone to ever make you feel that way!
I could never leave one child behind after having another.....my kids come first shame poor Gavin I think as he grows up he is going to keep saying what he said to his mum and it will affect him....
I have to say I am very moved by Joshua’s story. I see something in him, that needs love, and honestly, I don’t see it in his Mother and step dad. I’m not excusing bad behavior but that kid, he has a lot of sadness in his eyes.
Dr. Emerson....you watched a freakin' TV Documentary...so glad you can judge! Shame. On. You!
That Mother is a disgrace. She doesn't deserve to have children.
@@michellecrawley5211 I agree 😩 she seems very disconnected from him, very non receptive..
@@missypuffin8985 the stepdad probably didn’t like him and she chose him over her son -pretty easy to see that.. poor kid rightfully has intense anger to her
This one bothers me so much. I want to know what was happening in his home that played a part in his anger. It doesn’t usually come from nowhere. His mom and stepdad don’t seem as concerned as they should.
Foster mom Kathy Brown has a heart of gold.
Probably 12 years ago, just after Christmas a child in the school I taught in took my hand and excitedly told me about Christmas with her foster family. She said it was just like on tv!
I no longer teach, but a customer talked about her mum & dad & that she’d been fostered. She’d moved in with them at 14 with a new baby. Then I saw them out somewhere with the children I knew. The customer talked about them so much I was really glad the 2 sisters had been placed in the family 😀. They’ve both stayed there, even though they are not classed as needing to be in care. Their parents don’t throw children out. They leave when it’s natural for them. If they move or stay until they’re 40.
Their birth mum threaten to end her life and the children if she didn’t get whatever she wanted. The children were at risk with her & she was very mentally I’ll so they were Terri of her too.
@@lilacscentedfushias1852 That isn't your story to tell... my friend's neighbor's cousin's ex husband's mom was abusive. 🙄
Heart of gold for pressing charges for 400 and then steal the girl's baby? Get out of here with your support of the broken system. All kids make mistakes.
@@cicada38 😘
I dont think cathy has a heart of gold she took her xhild away from her ,stealing once shouldnt lead to losing your child forever,,im sure if she had been a blood daughter i bet she wouldnt of call the police,punishment would of got delt with at hone bot a court room
Joshua should have been given a chance in the home... to hear that you don't want him at home... everyone has problems.. and the act of forgiveness does alot foe troubled boys... at least 1 more time...
I agree 💯...
You say that until you live not knowing if they are going to kill you because you didn't give them what they wanted.. sugar foods, video games, outside time with not good NEIBORS, not doing chores or homework.. you need to stop with feeling and get to facts.. they are aware of what they are doing.. what needs to be done is give there life to CHRIST and FEAR him and keep his COMMANDMENTS. These children can be very dangerous and most time they need to be locked up so they can DIE to themselves and WAKE up to living SELFLESS and not SELFISH.. sin lies at the door seeking WHOM he can devour.. god sent his son to die an AWFUL dealth to give us life.. there is power in breaking these chains.. I'm proof I was once these children and then some. But I met the real JESUS CHRIST..
Mother is not giving her daughter up. She is giving her Foster daughter a chance. As parents, these are among the most challenging of situations. Minute 38:00.
I think more foster children become productive adults than anyone wants to admit. I was raised in care from 18 mts old. I’ve never been in any trouble, in fact I was a foster mother at 22 years old. I am so tired of hearing people get in trouble because of their childhood….it’s false, there is no reason other than just pure laziness and the unwillingness to do better. It’s beautiful to see her being held accountable for what she did, but I am thankful for her to get back on track.
Raymond keeps digging himself deeper and deeper into a hole
I don't think the judge should have told Raymond that he didn't care about him. That would only rile a man that has low self esteem, probably never had care himself! Raymond at least deserves some chances to get esteem, and some real care, before people be to harsh on him. It is good the child is not with any parent that was negligent, violent. Wishing the parents get help so that they can be reunited!
I felt bad for Josh’s mum. And the judge was basically putting it on her not the 13 year old who physically assaulted his mother to the point of making her bleed! & attempted to assault his sister with a deadly weapon! What if he did get her? Yet he doesn’t hit his step-father of course just the females?!
His mother did try her best. She got him counseling, he has seen doctors & has been put on medications, they even bought him a punching bag!! Yet the judge wanted to give not just him but the mum parenting classes for her other kids when they’re not the issue! Family counseling ok that would be different.
I don’t think it was right for the judge to say what she said about his mum. About her missing him & will want to work harder! He’s 13 not 5 and this isn’t the first time he’s acted like this, he has to learn that there’s consequences for his actions and that it’s not all about him! He’s not an only child! Mum has others to think about too!
Also it’s not uncommon for kids to idealize the parent that they don’t live with on a more permanent basis! That parent becomes the answer to all their problems when in reality that’s not always how it works out! In fact 8 out of 10 times it won’t.
you're so right!!
I was just watching josh case the other day I wonder wut ever happened to nephew
Hey Calamari I have a question have any people in these documents ever come to work for Calamari or has that never happened? (Also I love these videos)
@Monkey Man - Great question! No one has ever "officially" come to work with us (most kids seem to have their own professional goals) but many kids have offered to help in any way they can to continue to spread the word about their experiences in the system. For that, we are eternally grateful! Really appreciate your kind words. This work is a labor of love and can be difficult to get on the air. But we keep at it and are immensely grateful for our TH-cam tribe!!
Joshua's mom's bangs should be illegal.
Lmao that's right on point her bangs are from another planet
Mrs. Kathy Brown is a earth angel. She will definitely be blessed when she leaves this earth
Really? How differently opinions can vary from one individual to another! In my opinion she's nothing but a baby-thief! And it only cost her $400. She said she took Delina and her baby in because she wanted a family. But the moment Delina did the first thing wrong (and I'm not saying that didn't deserve SOME punishment), she legally stole her baby. So...I'm wondering if we even watched the same documentary! Did you not hear her say after that hearing over the $400, "I'm afraid that Delina will take the baby, and I'll never see him again - and I couldn't bear that"...?? But he wasn't her child! Delina STILL loves her child - she has stayed in his life and goes along with Kathy and her wishes because she dangles her child over her head and rules her life with an iron fist. Delina is the one who's been to hell and back while another woman stole her child. My 'Halo Award for The Angel' goes to Delina!
Thi si heartbreaking. Poor boy Joshua!
The child welfare system is ridiculous, negative consequences do not cure negative actions.
Treating kids like hardened criminals is disgusting, parents tossing their kids away, now THAT should be given a consequence. That little girl looks up at her mom knowing she's being tossed aside, it's sickening. 1:05:00
Excatly these parents just want the system to solve their problems..
It’s the parents fault these kids are there! They focus so much on punishing these kids instead of punishing these bad parents!
@@puffinboo3919 I completely agree with you, parents do not want to handle the responsibility to "care for" the actual upbringing of a child. Some parents should not be allowed to have children, Im surprised the government hasnt yet created a parental license yet, if you havent passed a course on how to parent you should not be an actual parent.
Imagine your own mother tossing you aside because she cant handle the responsibility of being a parent, how tough would it be to look her in the eye after she pushed you away. It's sick.
@@puffinboo3919 not true... CPS receives money for ripping families apart. Get the facts before you go bashing all the parents. Foster parents get money, but parents are not given the same resources.
@@cicada38 this comment doesn’t even make sense. Do parents not work why would they need more resources? Do parents not get Medicaid and food stamps for children? Those are resources. You don’t need money to be a good fucking parent. Idiot. Educate yourself before even becoming a parent. Smh.
Yes
Joshua's case is heartbreaking...and hits close to home.
He wants to live with his dad so bad, he thinks by acting out, his mom will let him.
He doesn't understand, if his dad could or would, Joshua would already be there.
There is a reason his mom won't send him to his dad.
She might be protecting Joshua from a situation she knows is abusive, or his dad may not be able to financially afford to have him, he's addicted to a substance, etc.
His mom may be trying to be a good mom, by not telling him about his dad's true character. By not talking crap about the other parent.
By doing this though, it only makes the kid fantasize the other parent is perfect, and a way better living situation than the one he's in.
I'm not trying to assume, or say, Joshua's father is any of these things, but rather common reasons the other parent won't let their kid move in with them.
I was brought up since 2 yrs old with my mom and stepdad, who was very physically abusive and controlling.
They brought us up in the church, and were very strict, health nuts, and we did all the chores around the house.
My dad would pick us up on the weekends, but I remember it was sporadic.
We would be waiting on the porch for him to show up with our little bags and stuffed animals ready to go, and he wouldn't show.
When he did get us, it was a weekend full of everything we couldn't have, and didn't ever do, at my mom's. We would go to the beach all day, cooking out, swimming. We would have pizza and soda for dinner. Chips a Hoy cookies for dessert, and we could have as many as we wanted. He would take us to the mall, to the toy store, to get us anything we wanted, within reason.
My sister and I dreamed of moving in with my dad, to escape the abuse.
When my sister was 17, she got pregnant and got kicked out of my mom's, and my mom said I would never see my dad or sister again. She moved in with my dad, and he asked if I wanted to go too. I said yes immediately.
My mom's reaction was telling us we were both full of demons, and we were going straight to hell.
I didn't realize I had just bought a one way ticket, to hell itself!
Come to find out, my dad was an addict, did not care what we did, did not provide anything for us.
My sister moved out immediately and got married to her babie's daddy, and left me alone there.
I was 15, going from an extremely strict, and controlling environment, to an environment where I was able to do anything I wanted, with no repercussions.
I was so naive, and uneducated about the ways of the world.
I was 16, and had to find out everything about life on my own, with no direction from a parent of any kind.
It was horrific. But I managed, through the strength, courage, protection, love, and grace of God alone.
Thank you, Jesus. 🌷😇🌷🙏🌷
I am so blessed I did not end up in the system. I could have, very easily, but God placed very special people, sometimes strangers even, in my path to help me along the way, until I became of age.
I graduated high school on time, I went to college, got my degree, and joined the Air Force, as a lab technician. I got married, and have 2 beautiful sons.
My oldest is now a Marine, stationed at the Embassy in Poland. My youngest is starting high school next year.
When I look at them, I could not imagine them leading the life I had.
I have done the best I can, to be the best parent for my boys. To show them what a secure, loving parental relationship looks like. To show them all the love and support I never received, from either of my parents.
It used to greive me, when I was young, to listen to other kids dog their parents out. I wanted to scream at them, "At least you have parents that care about you!! They are trying, so stop taking it for granted!"
It would hurt my heart so bad during the Christmas holidays, with no one to celebrate with, or receive gifts from.
Just being alone, while everyone around me had family and friends visiting and celebrating. To watch the kids come back from Xmas break, showing off all the new things they got for Xmas.
But there is HOPE!!
Each one of us is in control of our destiny. Through the choices we make for our lives, and the strength and courage to make the changes necessary to better our lives.
To love ourselves, and believe we are worth the healthy love of others. 😇💗
Dear Carrie, I was saddened to read about your upbringing but I am also happy to read that life has been good to you. May God Bless you and yours.
Or, his dad just doesnt want him to live with him.
@@anovemberstar lmao fr this was corny asf
Wow maybe the mum hates the dad and for her own selfish reasons she dont want them together,sorry i could read the book you just write 🤣
@@annettelacey7913 Exactly!!!!
As an ex foster child myself I can definitely relate to Dalena. I to was in over a dozen foster homes, shelters and then finally a girls lock up group home. The sad part was is I did NOTHING WRONG!!! I was severely abused in ALL ways possible and after the fist foster home which was beautiful, loving and amazing I lost it. I just didn’t understand because I did nothing wrong and they said they loved me and that was my home and since I was made a ware of the state I could stay with them forever. Then on day I’m at school and my case worker picked me up and took me for ice cream and said she had to move me the next day because the foster parents wanted her to. I couldn’t understand what happened. After that I’d run away and they find me and either take me back to the home I was in or I’d be moved somewhere else. I didn’t care because I promised myself I wouldn’t get close to anymore of these lying people again. It cost me many years of heartache. I didn’t drink or get into trouble with the law or anything like that, I didn’t even mess with the boys other than being friends. Finally they put me in a temporary home for thanksgiving in 1989 and well long story short I stayed there until I married my high school sweetheart at 19 years old. I’ve completed college, I have 2 grown children and 3 grandchildren. I’d say I did alright however, I give ALL honor and glory to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ
And now she has a criminal record...no jobs prospects for 400 USD...really...the foster mom should have made her pay back the theft rather than take it to criminal court.
How can she say don't cry when she is abandoning her own child?. That's awful
Whatever did we do without the government running our families?
I don't understand why Joshua can't see his father. The mother would rather her son be removed from the home then contacting the dad in Texas. I wonder if the father even knew he had been given to the state?
The recommended videos block the updates on the kids :(. How to I remove these?
This documentary changed my life. I’m worried about where everybody is too. I don’t know how that judge did that job you spent so much time and just from the three hours I’ve been watching I get you get invested I pray for all y’all.
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This is a vicious cycle of kids with limited opportunity and full of frustration being punished as they should but reinforces their feelings of unworthiness.
..gotta say..like..alot of kids have probelms when 14..yet have the good sense not to flake around and have babies.
A very sad story. I hope they all are doing well. But growing up in the system is not the solution.
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@@redrocks1983 no coni isn’t there 🤔
@Red Rocks 1983 - appreciate you helping us out on this! :)
@@luckylucifer Unfortunately, we’ve lost contact with Conni and haven’t been able to find an update. We hope she’s doing well. Thank you for watching.
The System Breaks You.
Josh looks like "I Am Jazz".
I've been on all those meds at one point in my life..I'm on zyprexa and others now..I'm bipolar and I struggle every freaking day.
I have to say that these judges made the best calls with what they had to work with in these cases. It was the parents that were either unwilling or unprepared to address the needs of their children where the failures occured. It was very insightful that the one judge saw that the girl was being over medicated and moved her to a facility that wouldn't have that option. It saddened me that Joshua's mom made statements on camera that she loved her son, but I never saw her say it to him when he needed to hear it. So glad that he is having a good life now. The teen Mom who is now an adult beat all the odds against her. Yes, she messed up badly once, she got knocked down. But she got up again and moved on with her life the best way she knew how. I hope both of her sons will one day realize what an amazingly strong woman their Mom is.
My God how someone can just give up their kids like that/// Joshua's story just broke my heart/// I am a mother of 3 sons, I just can not imagine just walking up to a place with my child and giving him away/// and the stupid step father that says to Joshua "Oh I don't get a hug", it was like the step father was gloating... Just so sad...
Is Joshua the kid who beat up his mother?
Aww, poor Chelsea. The system isn't built for someone with developmental disabilities, sadly.