I've been working on this lately. To anyone with arm pain. Wrap your wrists, and start with an extra wide grip on warm up sets, move hands in bit by bit as you warm up and expect it to take a training block or two before it feels natural. Fixing old habits is always a long road... ex rip-a-toe fan boy here.
You can spend time at home just holding hands in position on a broom to get the arm mobility. Also, arms should only be stabilizing guides, they shouldn't be taking weight, so you actually shouldn't be gripping them extremely hard even though everyone tells you that. They should be light and only engaging at all if things go wrong like a hand against a wall for stability.
Tried this first time yesterday. Was strange of course, since its a change, but I think there is great promise. It was more comfortable than Iam used to low bar.
I enjoyed the video. The negatives you presented aren’t native to the grip, though they are critical(controlling the bar, not leaning too forward). Loading your wrists for most people causes tendinitis, especially if they’re new and are progressing quickly. SS way makes sense anatomically, and is easier to execute consistently without issue in my experience and that of athletes I’ve coached. Enjoying the videos.
I don't have the shoulder mobility to get the bar low enough while keeping hand over bar. Different warm ups and exercises only increase range slightly. The problem is it hurts my wrist at heavier weights event hough I'm supporting the weight on the back. I will buy some wrist wraps.
Good video. The "Starting Strength" grip is terribly unnatural to me because it is so uncomfortably tight, and it causes more elbow pain than using the extended wrist grip.
I needed this! My shoulders and bicep acts up whenever I get to my second day of low bar variation and it sucks. But I have a feeling it could be because I do the overhand grip and my shoulder mobility might be not that good. Gonna try the bent wrist and seee how it feels. Just afraid I might let the weight rest too much on my wrist
But you are missing big pieces of the puzzle. What about the unbearable shoulder and wrist pain that often accompanies the broken wrist grip? How should I keep the bar in a Solid position with this grip? I switched from the straight wrist/ behind the bar grip because of this video, but man - after 2 months of this, I can’t keep the bar from moving, my wrists and shoulders are killing me. Ya, I feel that I may be in a better position but I can’t sustain it due to the chronic pain. The Rip version is specifically for locking the bar on to the back and to keep the weight of the bar off the wrists and elbows
I have been training completely raw as of recently, and this comment definitely resonates with me. It’s like supporting the entire bar with the wrists and the bar pulling your hands down with the wrists broken back, man it’s painful.
I use the sort of over bar grip because the other grips kill my Elbows. But at the same time I just failed a heavy squat and now my shoulder hurts from squeezing so hard with that grip
Hey, so my current issue is elbow pain. I did the sort starting strength grip originally. Now I'm switching back to thumb under, but I end up flaring my elbow up and behind me a lot. It doesn't feel weaker, but a bit more unstable. This wrist back thing just kills me. Same reason my front rack sucks. You have any advice on this?
Same here. I don’t flare my elbows but there is too much bar weight on my wrists and elbows. That weight needs to be on my back and since it’s smashing my wrists and elbows, all lifts are now suffering due to chronic pain
@@BrazosValleyBarbell I do see the advantages if it allows you to lock down the ribs better, but ive never managed to get into a position where it doesnt feel like a terrible behind the back military press or if i focus on depression like my shoulders are going to explode hahaha
This is a straw man argument. Starting Strength never teaches an “over the bar” grip unless you don’t have the mobility. You do mention “behind the bar” grip when describing it, but you demonstrate with your wrist in flexion which is over the bar. Starting Strength teaches a neutral position to to have the forearm directly in line with the bar. Having your wrist in flexion or extension is not desirable because of the moment it creates.
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I've been working on this lately. To anyone with arm pain. Wrap your wrists, and start with an extra wide grip on warm up sets, move hands in bit by bit as you warm up and expect it to take a training block or two before it feels natural. Fixing old habits is always a long road... ex rip-a-toe fan boy here.
Have ordered wrist wraps from rogue they can't arrive soon enough!
You can spend time at home just holding hands in position on a broom to get the arm mobility.
Also, arms should only be stabilizing guides, they shouldn't be taking weight, so you actually shouldn't be gripping them extremely hard even though everyone tells you that. They should be light and only engaging at all if things go wrong like a hand against a wall for stability.
Was critical about it at first but it worked for me , no more shoulder pain. Thank you , hit 260 today btw !
Brazzers Valley Barbell back at it again...
Tried this first time yesterday. Was strange of course, since its a change, but I think there is great promise. It was more comfortable than Iam used to low bar.
I do the over the bar grip because if I grip under the bar, i get terrible pain in my left bicep. Destroys the descent on my bench
Damn same here!! That’s why I hate doing upper after chest. I’m gonna switch to overhand
I enjoyed the video. The negatives you presented aren’t native to the grip, though they are critical(controlling the bar, not leaning too forward). Loading your wrists for most people causes tendinitis, especially if they’re new and are progressing quickly. SS way makes sense anatomically, and is easier to execute consistently without issue in my experience and that of athletes I’ve coached. Enjoying the videos.
I don't have the shoulder mobility to get the bar low enough while keeping hand over bar. Different warm ups and exercises only increase range slightly. The problem is it hurts my wrist at heavier weights event hough I'm supporting the weight on the back. I will buy some wrist wraps.
Good video. The "Starting Strength" grip is terribly unnatural to me because it is so uncomfortably tight, and it causes more elbow pain than using the extended wrist grip.
I'm late to the party on this video but- great video. Was getting kinda tired of being told my wrist position was "wrong".
I needed this! My shoulders and bicep acts up whenever I get to my second day of low bar variation and it sucks. But I have a feeling it could be because I do the overhand grip and my shoulder mobility might be not that good. Gonna try the bent wrist and seee how it feels. Just afraid I might let the weight rest too much on my wrist
But you are missing big pieces of the puzzle. What about the unbearable shoulder and wrist pain that often accompanies the broken wrist grip? How should I keep the bar in a Solid position with this grip? I switched from the straight wrist/ behind the bar grip because of this video, but man - after 2 months of this, I can’t keep the bar from moving, my wrists and shoulders are killing me. Ya, I feel that I may be in a better position but I can’t sustain it due to the chronic pain. The Rip version is specifically for locking the bar on to the back and to keep the weight of the bar off the wrists and elbows
I have been training completely raw as of recently, and this comment definitely resonates with me. It’s like supporting the entire bar with the wrists and the bar pulling your hands down with the wrists broken back, man it’s painful.
bro you sound just like cailer woolam wtf
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ZachTheTrashPowerlifter was thinking theeee exact thing lol
I use the sort of over bar grip because the other grips kill my Elbows. But at the same time I just failed a heavy squat and now my shoulder hurts from squeezing so hard with that grip
Hey, so my current issue is elbow pain. I did the sort starting strength grip originally. Now I'm switching back to thumb under, but I end up flaring my elbow up and behind me a lot. It doesn't feel weaker, but a bit more unstable.
This wrist back thing just kills me. Same reason my front rack sucks.
You have any advice on this?
@@BrazosValleyBarbell i have bicep and forearm pain from pulling my elbows down and forward
Same here. I don’t flare my elbows but there is too much bar weight on my wrists and elbows. That weight needs to be on my back and since it’s smashing my wrists and elbows, all lifts are now suffering due to chronic pain
Thanks to you I snapped my left wrist 😞
Ya, people seem to forget the chronic pain that seems to accompany this grip for many people. For me, using wraps isn’t enough
I dont understand how this doesnt end up causing you to try to carry some of the bar weight with your wrists
@@BrazosValleyBarbell I do see the advantages if it allows you to lock down the ribs better, but ive never managed to get into a position where it doesnt feel like a terrible behind the back military press or if i focus on depression like my shoulders are going to explode hahaha
@@BrazosValleyBarbell it is bad because forcing it on your wrists will eventually cause much more harm than "forcing" it on your arms.
The question is, is this allowed in USAPL? I thought you need to have your thumb wrapped around the bar and hand closed over the bar
@@BrazosValleyBarbell good to know! Thank you!
I can't do thumb wrapped around bar, it kills my wrist
Isn't that only for bench?
@@danm1063 Yep, for safety reasons
YNDTP
This is a straw man argument. Starting Strength never teaches an “over the bar” grip unless you don’t have the mobility. You do mention “behind the bar” grip when describing it, but you demonstrate with your wrist in flexion which is over the bar. Starting Strength teaches a neutral position to to have the forearm directly in line with the bar. Having your wrist in flexion or extension is not desirable because of the moment it creates.
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