StG44 with Original Matching Scope!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- Many design platforms today owe their origins to the German StG-44. Birthed during World War 2 by Huge Schmeisser, the select-fire Sturmgewehr utilized an intermediate 7.92x33 Kurz cartridge which allowed for a smaller overall profile, was more appropriate for the common distances of engagement, and provided more controllable recoil. Stamped parts made production inexpensive and quick. The StG44 quickly made their mark on the Eastern front where it was found to be accurate, offered more range than the MP40, more CQB potential than the Kar 98k, and could still lay down suppressive full-auto fire.
This particular example is in extraordinary condition, with 90% of its original World War 2 combination phosphate & blued finish and all matching numbers, right down to the RARE ZF4 scope. STG44 were not chosen for sniper or DMR duty, but this scope clearly indicates that such things were once strongly considered by Mauser, enough to warrant a scope specially calibrated for the 8mm Kurz cartridge.
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After watching Gun Jesus for so many years, RIA's official channel is FINALLY recommended to me! Great presentation!
Welcome!
Same
Dont mock the Lord
Same here, algorythm things i guess
I don't think I have ever seen a person on the internet with as many grown men that are in love with him as Ian from Forgotten Weapons has. You guys have some hot and heavy crushes on him that would make anyone blush.
I can't even imagine how much that will go for!!
6 figures for sure
"Do I want a house or a cool gun?"
@@activatekruger446 its a REALLY cool gun though
STG-44......... 0000000000000
$1299.99 plus tax retail
Jesus that gun looks like something from the '70s. We were fighting with M14s until Vietnam, meanwhile Germans had a proper Assault rifle with scope decades earlier.
Perfect condition way ahead for its time classic with scope 🍀
Krout space magic.
That's exactly what I thought - these guys were so ahead of the pack on this one.
The most beautiful and influential rifle ever made.
The two versions of the Sturmgewehr that you mention,"H" and "W", were not both designed by Hugo Schmeisser. H was the designation for the Haenel design whose design team was led by Hugo Schmeisser. W was the designation for the Walther design based on work done by Karl Brauning. Reference "Sturmgewehr!" Handrich
Thank you for the correction!
Also reference some old school Gun Jesus Forgotten Weapons videos that cover the topic and designs quite well for short videos 👍 Also big shout out and thanks to RIA for allowing Ian access to so many awesome pieces of history over the years! 👏👍
Indeed. Both are still manufacturing weapons to this day. Haenel and Walther that is. Obviously old Hugo is long gone. Haenel has some really nice stuff.
I don't even speak English very well and I already thought he was saying something wrong while I was watching the video. Though there's an exceptional example of John Browning in America and Belgium, having guns designed by a same designer in two different companies is an odd thing to see in war time Germany, I think. Thank you for the correct information.
A beautiful piece of artwork !!
It's a gun not the sistine chapel
@@liamg1706 I guess it really depends of what you appreciate or consider artwork doesn't it ?? I have my opinion...you have yours, I just happen to appreciate German engineering from that time period !
I never knew I needed an stg with that coloring
The STG-44 was ahead of it's time, it created a new class of firearm and even had an optic like nearly every issued rifle today.
If only more countries saw to power of a low powered optic on the gun of every rifleman.
Absolutely gorgeous.
Thanks for showing us!
The aesthetics are just flawless
Exceptional weapon of war.
Not quickly impressed but this is something special, the rifle with mount and matching scope you don't just find another one.
Haha he presented the rifle like a sommelier a wine.
Nice Video
That's really interesting, thanks for showing off this historical oddity.
The most beautiful weapon in the world
That is the crown jewel of the museum of handheld modern warfare tools!
No wonder I'd love to buy one of the new replicas of that design.. in a modern caliber😂 ... Lucky for me, it's all possible today! Silenced 300 blackout STG 44 anyone??? ❤
Handheld modern warfare tools .ok
300 blackout STG 44 sounds cursed, 5.56 or .308 all the way
What a beauty! I’m sure it will hit high six figures.
WoW....
The last STG I seen for sale was 10,000 dollars,...
This one is probably a one of one, with its scope mount and scope...
20-30 thousand estimated price...
Due to the fact that there will be so many people who want it for their collection...
thats amazing
I was hoping to see what it looks like to view down range with that scope, what the reticule looks like, etc.
That is the coolest thing ever I thought it was a modern add on from the thumbnail, but geez
My dream gun ! Man im praying the PSA and HMG venture comes to fruition
Beautiful piece of kit
Wow, i'd love it if you guys could give us a glimpse of this rifle being fired and also a look through the scope.
This rifle will probably never be fired again, it is to rare if had the money and bought it I will still pry shoot it lol
man that STG-44 is beautiful, and the aesthetics are out of this world. the STG-44 is the epitome of everything I think the AR platform should be. As much as I would love to have an original STG-44, I cannot wait for PSA to release their version of the retro STG-44 chambered in various different calibers, wil probably be the closest think that I could remotely afford and to be honest It will be an act of God if I can get a PSA version of the STG 44
I might just have to nab one at tax return time after they release, but it may be an act of God if i can convince my wife why i need a gun that cost 3x what building my AR15 did lol.
Excellent presentation for an exceptional piece of history.
Looking forward to watching RIA's channel now that the algorithm smiled on me lol! Thanks for allowing Ian access to show us so much history and awesome content over the years! You guys are legends! What some may call a disciple of sorts 😉👍
a literal dream gun
I never understand why people would press dislike on these kind of videos
What're they disliking it for? Are they angry that the guns aren't pristine and with zero scratches? Sad that they aren't firing the gun?
That's the one that started it all absolute work of art the Sturmgewehr! It is an absolute Beauty! And a side note I haven't made enough money in my lifetime to purchase this piece of military perfection! Lol
Wowza what a neat gun, the Germans are certainly good engineers!
That beauty will sell for more money than most ppls houses are worth
Hopefully the buyer makes content. Never seen one with an OG scope
Work of art
Well done. Great video and great Strumgewehr.
Where is Gun Jesus at when you need him the most?
GET SOME !!!! Awesome rig....
Ooof so much money that owner is a very lucky person
Legendary love the love the stories amazing thank you
Great video!
I hope whoever wins the auction phones up Gun Jesus and some firearms antiquities experts and asks them how best to preserve (note: not restore) this weapon, or decides to donate it to a renowned firearms museum.
If this gun were restored to shooting condition, I think we'd all be in an uproar. You just don't find rare pieces like this with 90% of the finish and matching serials everyday.
this beauty is in shooting condition and ready to go. Guns of this rarity are often just investment pieces. You want a shooter you find a lesser example and a handful of mags and enjoy.
Great video! Just one note. I would not translate it "Storm"rifle even though Sturm does translate to storm. Sturm also means attack/assault, especially in this case. Example, the attacking position in football/soccer is also called Sturm. So it is, quite litteraly, the first Assault rifle. Keep up the fantastic work guys and greetings from Germany.
I'll see you guys there, I gotta get started on my mortgage paperwork.
It is not a PLATFORM, it is a rifle.
damn, the AK even stole the scope rail, banana mag, sheet metal, and overall aesthetic of the gun! This gun was SO far ahead of its time. Until recently, acogs at 3.5x or 4x were the sweet spot for US infantry
Absolutely astounding, what a beautiful peace of machinery!
The aesthetics and outside design are definitely uncannily similar when it comes to the STG44 and AK platform but the insides are vastly different. The ak is more like a reversed M1 Garand i think
@@ArottingPast Incorrect. The initial AK47 variant was a direct ripoff of the Sturmgewehr 44. N.S.D.A.P. Deutschland was nearly a century more advanced than any other country on Earth (at the time).
@@DerSchleier Instead of taking assumptions based off the STG44's or any gun of that matter aesthetics maybe you should learn to actually study about the subject you are disagreeing with not only utilizing what one Google search gives you😂
@@ArottingPast Pardon moi? Have you read Kalishnikov's own writings and heard or read his own statements on how and why he engineered the AK47?
I suggest you take your own advice.
@@DerSchleier @Der Schleier My previous comment going into detail regarding the design of the AK was detailed was deleted i apologize for the misunderstanding, to give a jist on what i said is.
The AK47 was infact NOT an STG44 direct ripoff, with some knowledge regarding the firearm you can actually see that the Gas,Locking is from the M1 Garand (If you read Kalashnikovs book you would see this stated) and also the Bolt is essentially an upside down M1 Garand bolt.
The very concept of an automatic easy to make and powerful assault rifle was taken from STG44 by Mr Mikhail Kalashnikovs but it was only to a certain extent to be more specific it is more the aesthetics (Iron sights, Wood stock)
You can see the images for reference and detailed explanation and comparison on TheFirearm Blog article.
How come the lower is blued while the rest of the gun has a phosphate finish? Is that how it came from the factory?
I've always wanted to win a big lottery jackpot but now I know what I'd buy with that vast expanse of funds.
Thats history
Imagine if they had these a few years earlier
Imagine if they had these at the start of the war. We'd be speaking German!!
I can guarantee you there wouldn’t be drag queen story hours right now
@@activatekruger446nah. We’d still win the war but at a greater cost. These weren’t as reliable as you would think. The Allies, particularly the US, still had the logistics and factory power to outmatch the Germans by 100 fold. Plus they couldn’t fight a multiple front war
@@activatekruger446 Really? Do Germans speak English or Russian now because Germany was defeated? Can't force the people to change language they speak except if done gradually for a century or so. Not losing control over the territory for that long is next to impossible though.
_Imagine if they had these a few years earlier_
Absolutely nothing would have changed.
This is the exact gun i would have if i ever win the lottery. I love me a battle rifle with an ACOG, and this is the forefather of them all.
Insane how ahead of its time this thing was, this thing up against a bolt action or even something like an M1 would be like a Corolla up against an Aventador
I held one in 91...dude wanted 1500 for it.....😢 who knew???
That would haunt me to this day.
I just got sick reading that
My thoughts and prayers
You slept bro
-adding to my 3 pre-speakers. Plus am crying rn.
Plus am sad, another time, at that it seems to me as if all weapons had been swept out of my beloved homeland Germany, where I grew up and live(Bavaria), neither my two Grandpas had any equip left, nor did I ever see stuff from ww2 anywhere here.
Tho, I had the opportunity to shoot, disassemble, assemble and practice with P1, G3A3 and MG3 when I served in the Bundeswehr 2001 - 2004.
Stg44 shown as here is a dream, I wouldn't need more, ever.
@@benjohnson5552 loved your Humor
“I have three dollars”- Patrick Star
lol
Awesome piece of history
You can tell the HK G3 was aesthetically designed after it
And from the STG-45 internally
That's a bad ass weapon.
Its brown in colour, which is brilliant because it blends into the backgroubd better, or its just rusz
Wow those are beautiful Stuff you got there.
does it come with the vampire night vision?
I would live to see Ian get his hands on this
Ian needs to review this
I definitely need a remade stg it’s so good looking
Stg44 22lr by Mauser. It looks identical and functions similar and it’s only $400
selling a stole piece of history.. love to see that
Got an MP44 from 1945....serial number 3045y/45....late war production...my most prized possession and second comes my MG42... ❤
Damn man did you inherit those?
There's 100% gonna be some boomer screenshotting this and putting it on GunBroker with the caption "I know wut I got"
Yes please
I really can’t guess what the closing price will be but I’m thinking $175,000?
This might be the best of its kind on the planet.
Hello from Sweden 🇸🇪
what a find
The ZF4 scopes and scope mounts were never widely used in the field. Their use was abandoned after trials proved that the accuracy using the scope was far below expectations. The fact that many MP-44/StG-44's still had scope mounts on their receivers was either due to the Germans not wanting to make another design change to the production line to remove it, or the expectation that the mounts could later be used with vampir infrared night vision, if vampir would be made in numbers great enough to be widely issued for the rifles. TH-cam videographers need to delve deeper into research so they don't present a false impression, such as the use of ZF4's in field service on the MP-43/44/StG-44 series of rifles.
I want one!!
Now that's a thing of Beauty An well out of my Price range...
wonderful video！
The MP-44/STG-44 was the first place Stoner and Sullivan saw constant recoil..Stoner called it that run out thing...
Maybe German guns are not my favorite, but I have to say, there is a strange beauty in this!
THANKS a lot for showing it, before it dives into some private collection of a wealthy person :)
Wow i dont think there is a more beautiful assault rifle in my opinion
Good Lord. It's stunningly beautiful. Germany may have lost the war, but some of the equipment they created was revolutionary.
Exactly, along with the equipment they came up with evolutionary doctrine to go with it.
@@nilanjangupta763 That's one way to phrase it. Nobody has ever killed people faster.
With that matching serial numbered scope, 20 bucks is the best I an do.
This is going to be expensive. How many known examples with matching scopes are there?
@0:04 ..there are many ways of distinguishing poors..this is one of them..
Beautiful firearm.
Well said history man!
Love this content. ❤
God I wish. Thats a collectors wet dream.
Daamn the scope is just there the whole video and we cant even see the reticle.
I wish I had the disposable income to throw at something like this. I'll likely never have the privilege of owning such a remarkable piece of history.
eat it IAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want this for x- mas this year ! 😁😁😁
Huh. I heard somewhere that Hitler hated the STG44. Maybe I'm confusing guns.
A beauty
Any idea what it sold for?
It’s amazing all these guns went threw the 68 amnesty’s act.
Amazing rifle
i would buy it like an investment... im sure in 20 years it would be worth more than any ETF u could buy
Hmm, you seem to have the larger details right. But, in describing as to why they called it a MP43 (and later revisions MP44), didn't change the way it was used on the eastern front. Essentially what the weapon did was make a single rifle-man equal to an entire German doctrine rifleman squad. Which was (I may be off on the exact numbers) 2-4 bolt-action Kar98K equipped riflemen and one 2 - 4 man (depending on how much ammo and replacement barrels was being lugged around with a MG42. Or if, if it was (according to Hitler, the superior weapon because milled) half-manufacture version that Rheinmetall wanted to replace universally with the 42 but was never allowed meaning every one of these meant one MG42 worth of resources and three MG42 worth of the factory manhours were wasted i.e. one 34 means one 42 never made, the MG34 and its assorted support tripod which, reaaally isn't a fucking universal MG even if they used it as such. That is you force multiplied a single rifleman with the capacity of an entire fucking squad which has a MG in it. That has to be a hundred-fold increase.
The doctrine was the same. It was not used as an Machinepistol. Despite the designation to fool psychotic nazi leadership. Self-loading on assault. Fully auto only when switching to the role of the MG42. Either suppressive fire from a lightly fortified or at least conceiled position to enable controlled retreat when facing too much offensive heat from the enemy or when defending a position.
And the ability to switch between these literally by just flipping a switch, not by screaming for the MG34 guys to get their gun operational and crossing your fingers, when you needed to stop an assault or switch to retreating to a more favorable position, is what made it possible to stem the tide of running-and-gunning russians with no training and a couple of drums for their SMG, told to run until shot dead or survive alive to Berlin, extremely effectively.
The russians had far less in form of rifleman support that was effective on the combat ranges, due to their really not being such a thing as a "Russian Riflemanship School". The vast majority of soldiers barely knew how to operate a bolt and fire somewhere towards the enemy a unaimed shot. They didn't know how sights worked, so the prefferred method was to throw them at the Germans with SMGs.
The Germans on the otherhand were very capable riflemen every one of them, so, you know. This thing being a self-loader, easy to reacquire a sight after a shot or after some experience, literally not loosing it at all, as opposed to fully powered self-loading german rifles and their kick, or the time needed to reciprocate a K98 bolt, made the STG44 even more combat effective for assault than previous weapons and the devastation at range to Soviets with no mine stompers or mobile armor to throw at the coming germans... well. Were up shit creek with out a paddle when a single STG44 equipped guy was doing the assault.
And the SMG guys easily shocked by if getting close, that a self-loader switches to full-auto and is effective at suppressive fire before they can get a bead on him at the SMGs range. That was also a fun thing surely.
The sad thing is only people with a god sized wallet will be able to buy something so nice . Very beautiful firearm.
I imagine how much german and japanese stuff that was saved by american GI’s taking it back to the US in civillian hands, especially rare stuff that we can all enjoy today!
Forgotten weapons did a video on scoped stg44s and there accuracy was so bad with 11 MOA they ditched any idea of putting scopes on them.
why not show us scope sight picture
Buy it now! Germans had alot of great ideas and were just misunderstood in the end.
Very cool!
I will be taking it now lol