Thanks for your comment 🙏 Make no mistake, your rig is amazing. It is. But, yes, this one is absolutely insane. Unreal. The plan wasn't even to add the 280 radiator. It was simply to make a better ITX build over the Fractal Terra one. The Delidded 14900KS was better than the 7800X3D and the Strix 4090 with Optimus Block is better than the FE 4090 with HK block. But it wasn't until all the parts were in, that there felt like there was something missing. Then, we thought about dropping a radiator up top and then after a few more days of brainstorming, the plan to make it standalone with the DDC pump and that very specific mount and the swapping to a closed loop inside the case was complete, and it actually worked! It took it to the next level. Thanks again for watching
That man is creating the most epic itx build with high-end dream components (damn the optimus block justifies the existence of the 4090 by itself). And he does all that with the calmest voice ever and no sweat. I love that channel.
@@Custom_PC_Keebs What's so special about the Optimus? The esthetics? I mean temps are great, but even with another block you will get about the same temps, maybe a few mhz more, but you wouldn't notice it.
@@greggreg2458 def aesthetic. I think it is a masterpiece in its style. Reason has no room here. It performs very well of course and build quality is something but as you said you can get great temps with much cheaper blocks !
@@Custom_PC_KeebsEsthetics is a valid reason, It's unique for sure, luckily for me I don't like it that much, I dig the chrome plated look of my Alphacool core block more.
Thanks for your comment 🙏 That man is me! haha Thanks for watching and for the feedback on the voice. Happy to hear that there is no sweat. It's a duck, serene on top, but there is a lot of paddling underneath.
My understanding is that with a 4090, all temps are good. Air cooled, water cooled, potato cooled. It's such an efficient monster that after testing so many variations, I can't remember seeing one bad temp. For this stuff, it's all diminishing returns after one point, but it's fun as hell. For Optimus, after actually handling it now, there are differences, both good and bad. I did see a noticeable temp improvement over others, which was kind of surprising actually. Whether its worth its value is completely up to the user.
i am always waiting for your videos to drop 🙏 i would love for the graphs to provide way more context than just numbers within its own frame of reference. e.g. how does it stack up against stock cooled GPU/CPU? i will definetly copy the builds for the next graphics card series (if they provide a meaningful increase in performance)! 😁
Thanks for your comment 🙏 I also would like better graphs. I am likely moving to a two-part type videos where I can spend more time on the testing. This build was about almost 2 months in the making and I couldn't test it until the very end, after the leak test. By then, I'm pretty much running on fumes and testing was streamlined to specific things I thought were important to show. I tried to be comprehensive, but its a rabbit hole. Hopefully I can split up these videos and spend more time on the testing portions to address more benchmarks and comparisons. Hope that helps and thanks for your feedback
@@vectornetwork 2 months is honestly a great time for a video and build of this quality. always checking your channel for new uploads. I would say you are definetly my, and many others, go to channel for this content. so great job and keep it up!
nice job. Here is an idea. I have this case, and while it can do reasonably well with single 280 i always felt it can be way better. So i slightly modded the bottom of the case (added mounting holes for another 280. a nice 3D printed cover and we are done. For the bottom rad, I used alphacool XT45 because it was in spare parts box. otherwise would go with standard 30mm. The reason for alphacool is the insane amount of ports so it can be used for draining. Not sure if it will be silent, but it should be able to handle your HW.
Thanks for your comment 🙏 Sounds good, a 45 mm 280 radiator would cool quite well. My original test rig was an Alphacool ST30, standard 30mm copper block. I really liked it primarily because it was fairly standard and more importantly, it has 5 ports. I use them all, including one for draining. Thanks again for watching
Absolutely sick, I'd have loved to see that ddr5 waterblocked, or at least reshrouded in some bitspower heatsinks in a rig that goes as far as to delid the cpu and use liquid metal, but its still awesome
Thanks for your comment 🙏 This is a few times now where I have heard a suggestion to water block the memory. I may try this in the future, thanks again.
Dude aimed to the top and said "It's not enough, I want more!" Daaamn the external/internal WC rad feature just looks insanely good on this build, like if it was meant to go exactly on this type of build.
Thanks for your comment 🙏 Sounds like a beast of a system. I would be very happy with that build and I agree that the RTX 4090 should have good temps with an AIO. Thanks again for watching
Thanks for your comment 🙏 While I haven't priced out each component, I do have the whole build listed by component and links to the product. Hope that helps. Follow this link to view: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nBCBpM4reD4gt68-GOfiwXkLieH0x48tBvBxZraYsCs/edit?gid=1098750999#gid=1098750999
Thanks for your comment 🙏 While I haven't priced it all out, I do have every component listed with links. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nBCBpM4reD4gt68-GOfiwXkLieH0x48tBvBxZraYsCs/edit?gid=1098750999#gid=1098750999
I have an incomplete variant of this, not sff and no mora, no GPU block yet It's at $6,286.00 and counting, even without the GPU block $1300 of that in watercooling components So about that ballpark I'd guess
@@zfacersane272 how so? Mind that's after tax. That's just the cost of building a top end rig on launch. You can obviously get the now old hardware for cheaper ofc, but it wouldn't be by much, maybe $400-600 Cpu: $700 (700) Mobo:$700 (1400) RAM:$280(1680) PSU:$450 (2130) Case:$200 (2330) GPU:$1740 (4070) Fans: $150 (5x noctua+5x Arctic p12max)(4220) Fan accessories: $200 (4420) (hub+guards+gaskets+etc) Thermal Grizzly Contact frame(launch price, $50)(4470) Thermal pads/paste replacements (GPU, cpu, RAM): ~$150 (4620) Custom cabling for PSU: $400 (5120) Now add in the water-cooling stuff
Your custom-loop video made me want to try it. I'm very easy to understand, even though I'm Korean, thanks to your narration that explains it easily. I think it's by far the number one custom water cooling TH-cam video I've been watching so far. Thank you so much. Meanwhile, I have a question. Is there any problem with using two pumps with different specifications? I wonder if the performance of the external d5 pump is caused by the internal ddc bottleneck or does not adversely affect the lifespan of the pump.
small little production tip, turn off your microphone attenuation thing, the music fading out whenever you speak breaks up the audio a lot and its quite distracting, great video though!
Hi Thank you for your work in this video. you save me from going in an extreme mode, with an aquarium chiller lol. I am extremely surprised, the temperatures in game, without the mo-ra. Have you done a test, without the radiator and the pump in the PC, just with the mo-ra and the pump placed on it?? If this is not the case, technically, could this type of assembly pose a problem??
*I have this exact case and a 7900 XTX, Corsair told me not to try this, you can see my build on my community tab. Do you think this is an doable conversion? Im already using an AIO*
Thanks for your comment🙏 Yes, absolutely. I have an HK Ultra block for the Strix 4090 and I am working on the video. It's a 4090 roundup video comparing the Optimus block with the HK and also the Alphacool Core block. Hope that helps
do noise nomailise test, we actually don't care about the RPM, since it directly translate to noise anyway. that would make the result more striking i am sure.
I am very impressed with the water cooling, but I am very concerned about the stability of the i9 14KS when it is faulty, the temperature is too high for an itx pc
If i disconnect the two internal piper to connect them and make it a internal loop then will the coolent leak or not when they are disconnected and not yet connected,!?
I love this build and would like to build it to. Is it posible to change intel to amd and if yes what motherboard and what block would you use? And would it be possible to use the rx7900xt auqua?
Thanks for your comment🙏 Yes, the original version (this is the sequel) had an AMD 7800X3D as the CPU. Here is the video if you haven't seen it: th-cam.com/video/P0WcbHW9kxg/w-d-xo.html I would choose an ITX motherboard to your liking and I plan on doing an AM5 CPU water block roundup soon so hopefully that will provide you more information to decide on the block. As for the 7900XT, I am not as familiar with AMD cards, but most water blocks should have a chance at fitting. The one I used was particularly tall. Hope that helps
Thanks for your comment 🙏 There is a D5 pump on the MO-RA. The DDC pump in the case is for when the MO-RA is disconnected and the build is converted to standalone mode. Hope that helps
Thanks for your comment🙏 So I used the 14900KS to show that even the most power-hungry and hard to cool CPU can be used in this build. In an ITX case. It's a CPU that nearly requires delidding, which completely voids the warranty anyways. The 14900KS ran even better than I expected. This is to show that you can put any CPU into this build. A previous version of this build I used a 7800X3D. This video took a couple of months to produce. I wish Intel didn't have these issues, but here we are. Thanks again for watching
Thanks for your comment 🙏 I typically use AMD CPUs since they are so power efficient. For this build, I wanted to really test the cooling so I picked the hardest CPU to cool that also nearly requires delidding. I expect to do water block testing on the 9950X. Hope that helps. As for GPUs, I do want to showcase an AMD CPU and Sapphire is such a good AIB partner that's AMD only. Thanks again for watching
Please enjoy watching 🙏
Great Job!!
Thanks for your comment 🙏 and thank you friend.
this is one of the best video on YT
@@tj2230 Thanks for your comment and I appreciate your support 🙏
And here I thought my lian li 011 air mini with the 14.1inch strix in it was amazing lol. This little thing is insane.
Thanks for your comment 🙏 Make no mistake, your rig is amazing. It is. But, yes, this one is absolutely insane. Unreal. The plan wasn't even to add the 280 radiator. It was simply to make a better ITX build over the Fractal Terra one. The Delidded 14900KS was better than the 7800X3D and the Strix 4090 with Optimus Block is better than the FE 4090 with HK block. But it wasn't until all the parts were in, that there felt like there was something missing. Then, we thought about dropping a radiator up top and then after a few more days of brainstorming, the plan to make it standalone with the DDC pump and that very specific mount and the swapping to a closed loop inside the case was complete, and it actually worked! It took it to the next level. Thanks again for watching
@@vectornetwork how often do you get DDC pumps dying compared to authentic D5 pumps?
That man is creating the most epic itx build with high-end dream components (damn the optimus block justifies the existence of the 4090 by itself). And he does all that with the calmest voice ever and no sweat.
I love that channel.
@@Custom_PC_Keebs What's so special about the Optimus? The esthetics? I mean temps are great, but even with another block you will get about the same temps, maybe a few mhz more, but you wouldn't notice it.
@@greggreg2458 def aesthetic. I think it is a masterpiece in its style. Reason has no room here. It performs very well of course and build quality is something but as you said you can get great temps with much cheaper blocks !
@@Custom_PC_KeebsEsthetics is a valid reason, It's unique for sure, luckily for me I don't like it that much, I dig the chrome plated look of my Alphacool core block more.
Thanks for your comment 🙏 That man is me! haha Thanks for watching and for the feedback on the voice. Happy to hear that there is no sweat. It's a duck, serene on top, but there is a lot of paddling underneath.
My understanding is that with a 4090, all temps are good. Air cooled, water cooled, potato cooled. It's such an efficient monster that after testing so many variations, I can't remember seeing one bad temp. For this stuff, it's all diminishing returns after one point, but it's fun as hell. For Optimus, after actually handling it now, there are differences, both good and bad. I did see a noticeable temp improvement over others, which was kind of surprising actually. Whether its worth its value is completely up to the user.
An I9 build in big July is crazy
Thanks for your comment 🙏Because of the heat in July? I agree, this is nuts!
@@vectornetwork it's more how unreliable they are. Not worth it until they fix whatever is wrong with raptor lake
@@laloreta798 I think using a custom WC with a GIANT external rad on a direct die solution kinda fix the overheating problem somehow LMAO
i am always waiting for your videos to drop 🙏
i would love for the graphs to provide way more context than just numbers within its own frame of reference. e.g. how does it stack up against stock cooled GPU/CPU?
i will definetly copy the builds for the next graphics card series (if they provide a meaningful increase in performance)! 😁
Thanks for your comment 🙏 I also would like better graphs. I am likely moving to a two-part type videos where I can spend more time on the testing. This build was about almost 2 months in the making and I couldn't test it until the very end, after the leak test. By then, I'm pretty much running on fumes and testing was streamlined to specific things I thought were important to show. I tried to be comprehensive, but its a rabbit hole. Hopefully I can split up these videos and spend more time on the testing portions to address more benchmarks and comparisons. Hope that helps and thanks for your feedback
@@vectornetwork 2 months is honestly a great time for a video and build of this quality. always checking your channel for new uploads. I would say you are definetly my, and many others, go to channel for this content. so great job and keep it up!
nice job.
Here is an idea. I have this case, and while it can do reasonably well with single 280 i always felt it can be way better.
So i slightly modded the bottom of the case (added mounting holes for another 280. a nice 3D printed cover and we are done. For the bottom rad, I used alphacool XT45 because it was in spare parts box. otherwise would go with standard 30mm. The reason for alphacool is the insane amount of ports so it can be used for draining.
Not sure if it will be silent, but it should be able to handle your HW.
Thanks for your comment 🙏 Sounds good, a 45 mm 280 radiator would cool quite well. My original test rig was an Alphacool ST30, standard 30mm copper block. I really liked it primarily because it was fairly standard and more importantly, it has 5 ports. I use them all, including one for draining. Thanks again for watching
@vectornetwork - another awesome creative build, keep up the great work! There is no other YT channel that hurts my wallet more than this one! 😅
Thanks for your comment 🙏I try to put the components right up front and up close so viewers can see the items up close. Thanks for again for watching
Absolutely sick, I'd have loved to see that ddr5 waterblocked, or at least reshrouded in some bitspower heatsinks in a rig that goes as far as to delid the cpu and use liquid metal, but its still awesome
Thanks for your comment 🙏 This is a few times now where I have heard a suggestion to water block the memory. I may try this in the future, thanks again.
Truly one of a kind. Nice work!
Thanks for your comment 🙏I appreciate the encouragement, thank you for watching.
Thank you, amazing video, I m looking forward to build a similar system when the rtc 5000 and ryzen 9000 components are available.
Thanks for your comment 🙏 Sounds like a plan!
Yoo this is what i'm waiting for
Thanks for your comment 🙏Thank you friend. Happy to deliver
Dream PC! I so badly want to wall mount a Mo-Ra3 420 near my PC. Man, this is amazing!!!
Thanks for your comment 🙏 Runs like a dream too, thanks for watching!
Great work!
Thanks for your comment 🙏 I appreciate the positive feedback and thank you for watching!
Dude aimed to the top and said "It's not enough, I want more!" Daaamn the external/internal WC rad feature just looks insanely good on this build, like if it was meant to go exactly on this type of build.
Thank you
Thanks for your comment 🙏and thank you for watching!
Many people use the MORA but i never see anyone using a Supernova from Alphacool, another monster rad but full copper.
@@greggreg2458 Same thing dude. I'd be interested to see how someone compares the Supernova 1260 and this radiator
@@daniilmarkovskyj515 There is a new MO-RA, 6 200mm fans. Yes 6.
I Have Both!
Thanks for your comment 🙏Congrats on your further ascension my friend :)
Nice
Thanks for your comment 🙏 Thanks again for watching
Woah just 1st minute of this video was awesome! That's soo cool. Pun intended,
Thanks for your comment 🙏 I hope you enjoy the rest. It's non-stop content 😎
I get very similar Temps and I have an AIO. And I run a Raptor lake i9 with an MSI Trio 4090. And My Monitor is 240hz. And I get 230 FPS on WarZone.
Thanks for your comment 🙏 Sounds like a beast of a system. I would be very happy with that build and I agree that the RTX 4090 should have good temps with an AIO. Thanks again for watching
Do you have any numbers on the water to core temp delta of the 4090 w/the Optimus block (at a given pump speed and power draw)?
What's the total cost of just the mora and parts. Just the external parts?
Thanks for your comment 🙏 While I haven't priced out each component, I do have the whole build listed by component and links to the product. Hope that helps. Follow this link to view: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nBCBpM4reD4gt68-GOfiwXkLieH0x48tBvBxZraYsCs/edit?gid=1098750999#gid=1098750999
@vectornetwork thanks your content is top notch
How much did the full build cost, if it’s not a secret?
Thanks for your comment 🙏 While I haven't priced it all out, I do have every component listed with links. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nBCBpM4reD4gt68-GOfiwXkLieH0x48tBvBxZraYsCs/edit?gid=1098750999#gid=1098750999
I have an incomplete variant of this, not sff and no mora, no GPU block yet
It's at $6,286.00 and counting, even without the GPU block $1300 of that in watercooling components
So about that ballpark I'd guess
@@Justifierwtf? That’s ridiculous
@@zfacersane272 how so? Mind that's after tax. That's just the cost of building a top end rig on launch. You can obviously get the now old hardware for cheaper ofc, but it wouldn't be by much, maybe $400-600
Cpu: $700 (700)
Mobo:$700 (1400)
RAM:$280(1680)
PSU:$450 (2130)
Case:$200 (2330)
GPU:$1740 (4070)
Fans: $150 (5x noctua+5x Arctic p12max)(4220)
Fan accessories: $200 (4420) (hub+guards+gaskets+etc)
Thermal Grizzly Contact frame(launch price, $50)(4470)
Thermal pads/paste replacements (GPU, cpu, RAM): ~$150 (4620)
Custom cabling for PSU: $400 (5120)
Now add in the water-cooling stuff
Your custom-loop video made me want to try it. I'm very easy to understand, even though I'm Korean, thanks to your narration that explains it easily. I think it's by far the number one custom water cooling TH-cam video I've been watching so far. Thank you so much. Meanwhile, I have a question. Is there any problem with using two pumps with different specifications? I wonder if the performance of the external d5 pump is caused by the internal ddc bottleneck or does not adversely affect the lifespan of the pump.
nice buitlt i´m going to pre order the new mo-ra4 600
copying this exactly thanks
Running a doomed machine with that 14900K
small little production tip, turn off your microphone attenuation thing, the music fading out whenever you speak breaks up the audio a lot and its quite distracting, great video though!
Hi
Thank you for your work in this video.
you save me from going in an extreme mode, with an aquarium chiller lol.
I am extremely surprised, the temperatures in game, without the mo-ra.
Have you done a test, without the radiator and the pump in the PC, just with the mo-ra and the pump placed on it??
If this is not the case, technically, could this type of assembly pose a problem??
*I have this exact case and a 7900 XTX, Corsair told me not to try this, you can see my build on my community tab. Do you think this is an doable conversion? Im already using an AIO*
Thanks for your comment 🙏 This is one of the few cases where I would try this in. Other cases tend to lean towards 240 radiators.
youre a genius, can i use the closed and external loop idea on my build?
Thanks for your comment 🙏 Yes of course my friend.
And is it expected to compare the new ultrathin plate from Watercool that they produced for the RTX 4090?
Thanks for your comment🙏 Yes, absolutely. I have an HK Ultra block for the Strix 4090 and I am working on the video. It's a 4090 roundup video comparing the Optimus block with the HK and also the Alphacool Core block. Hope that helps
@@vectornetwork It sounds interesting, I'm waiting for the video)) I personally think Watercool will beat Optimus
I think it's entirely possible. I'm redoing all the tests. I should also be able to get both cold plates next to each other to see the difference
do noise nomailise test, we actually don't care about the RPM, since it directly translate to noise anyway. that would make the result more striking i am sure.
What was the resoloution for cyberpunk 2077?
Thanks for your comment 🙏 Ah, I totally forgot to include that it is 4K. It is 4K resolution.
How do you drain the water from the case loop? Do you simply just connect a soft tube to one of the QDCs at the rear and drain?
I am very impressed with the water cooling, but I am very concerned about the stability of the i9 14KS when it is faulty, the temperature is too high for an itx pc
Is this direct die or did the IHS get replaced / remounted ? I want to delid my 14900ks but not sure if I want to relid or go direct die
Thanks for your comment 🙏 This is direct die. The IHS was not replaced. The water block is also direct die. Hope that helps
If i disconnect the two internal piper to connect them and make it a internal loop then will the coolent leak or not when they are disconnected and not yet connected,!?
i also want an external radiator setup :( maybe one day i can afford... although idk if that will be possible in my given situation
I love this build and would like to build it to. Is it posible to change intel to amd and if yes what motherboard and what block would you use? And would it be possible to use the rx7900xt auqua?
Thanks for your comment🙏 Yes, the original version (this is the sequel) had an AMD 7800X3D as the CPU. Here is the video if you haven't seen it: th-cam.com/video/P0WcbHW9kxg/w-d-xo.html
I would choose an ITX motherboard to your liking and I plan on doing an AM5 CPU water block roundup soon so hopefully that will provide you more information to decide on the block. As for the 7900XT, I am not as familiar with AMD cards, but most water blocks should have a chance at fitting. The one I used was particularly tall. Hope that helps
Pump can go on the Mora, not sure it needs to be inside...
Thanks for your comment 🙏 There is a D5 pump on the MO-RA. The DDC pump in the case is for when the MO-RA is disconnected and the build is converted to standalone mode. Hope that helps
What about intel instability issue 💀
Thanks for your comment🙏 So I used the 14900KS to show that even the most power-hungry and hard to cool CPU can be used in this build. In an ITX case. It's a CPU that nearly requires delidding, which completely voids the warranty anyways. The 14900KS ran even better than I expected. This is to show that you can put any CPU into this build. A previous version of this build I used a 7800X3D. This video took a couple of months to produce. I wish Intel didn't have these issues, but here we are. Thanks again for watching
Intel cpu, ngreedia gpu.
Pass. Let me know when you have an all AMD system and will revisit.
Thanks for your comment 🙏 I typically use AMD CPUs since they are so power efficient. For this build, I wanted to really test the cooling so I picked the hardest CPU to cool that also nearly requires delidding. I expect to do water block testing on the 9950X. Hope that helps. As for GPUs, I do want to showcase an AMD CPU and Sapphire is such a good AIB partner that's AMD only. Thanks again for watching