Box Blade vs Rear Blade vs Land Plane! Which One Do YOU Need?
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- Which is better? Box Blade vs Rear Blade vs Land Plane
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From my experience a good box blade can do what the other 2 types do about 90% as well as they can. If you're only buying one, the box blade is most versatile.
Agreed 👍
at the 10:50 mark when you are using the landplane if you would pull/drive in the opposite direction you would have been easily able to move material over and fill in that washout on the side of the driveway. Landplane will move a fair amount of material to fill in potholes and washouts you just have to go in the correct direction.
Just my observation from using mine:)
I’ve done some edging with a pivot rear blade! I loved it and my box blade!
Thanks Mike 👍
Thanks for this video. It’s the exact decision I’m making now, so this helped a ton. It’s a bonus that you don’t sell any of these even though you’re sponsored.
A very informative video of the three attachments Hank and what they can be used for. Enjoyed as always.
Thanks Terry hope you have a great Thanksgiving
@@HamiltonvilleFarm Same to you, Gina and family.
this is giving me a good idea on what to get when im able to for winter and my driveway
So glad you made this video to help explain the differences!
Glad you liked it!! We appreciate you watching.
One-pass with the land plain with the teeth down then a few passes without the teeth on-the-spot you used to box blade wada Bing wada Bang Best of Both Worlds LOL
Viewed, Liked, Shared, Subscribed! This content and video was great! Love the info and showing the differences.... I love any driveway work with the different methods!
I really like the adjustable blade. Being able to offset like that is a great idea. If you would have added some angle to that all that material would have went o the middle of the road adding crown and not having the dam along side of the ditch. I like to use the "angle blade" to pull the sides then use the box blade to drag down the center to make a great road surface. BTW, the box blade packs the road bed like no other tool. The weight of the implement along with the weight of the material being pulled creates an incredibly packed layer that will hold up to weather and traffic. Also, I've been using my Branson 4720 since buying new in 2004. Sadly I lost it to a field fire yesterday. what a great tractor. It did more work than it was designed to do, more abuse, more neglect, more , more , more. What an incredible machine.
Sorry to hear about your tractor.
@@HamiltonvilleFarm Thank you. That thing was a part of the family. Found you site looking for info on new a new one. I hope it works out. Brand loyalty is a rare thing....heck...loyalty is I rare thing. God Bless.
Sorry to hear about the loss of your tractor. A tool/tractor can feel like an old friend.
Good Info. As you said, they all have their own special use. I have eventually accumulated all three and use them all on a regular basis. Plus the tiller & the rake & the middle buster & the ripper & the flail mower & the finish mower & the rotary mower & the boom & the auger & the carryall & the roller 😵🤑 Sorry, but once I started I just had to keep the list going just to see what I do have waiting by the barn. It's an addiction once you get started.
Lol. I hear ya!
All three, also it’s better to loosen all the base when filling holes. Trying to shove soft material into an area a surrounded by hard pack will just push out.
if you pivot the rear blade so low-end fwd then the soil you dig goes to center of drive- gives you your "crown"
Thanks for watching 👍
Angling the scraper blade down and angling the low edge forward will make a crown on the road very easily. It cuts and pulls the dirt/gravel towards the center of the road. Cool video! 👍👍👍
That's right👍
I came to write this, you almost never use the blade in the straight position. You angle the blade toward the center of the road. Run each side a couple times (which deposits all the pull in the center) then run the land plane over it and you'll have a nice crown
That light duty rear blade offset like that would last me about two minutes here in West Virginia before it looked like a horseshoe . I do enjoy your videos, God Bless
Thanks for watching
That same blade would last me 10+ years here in MI for plowing our 200' driveway and 1500' private paved road in the winter!!
Great video! Lot of good information. One questiion: how big of a tractor are you using? It looks like about 45 horsepower. Having a big enough tractor is important. The equipment rentals have tractors that are only about 30-35 horsepower and they look pretty light. I've got to do my driveway before the monsoons set in. I'm a farm kid, now grown up, and have my fair share of time on a tractor. Let's see what happens.
I really your Will it Start videos! You and Wiley really crack me up! I also love your old farmboy creativity. That's what it takes when you're broken down in the field and have to get it done.
Excellent tips and information Hank! 🚜
Thank you!
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That was an excellent comparison between three very useful, similar implements. I researched each of those to figure out what would be the most useful all around implement, since I can only afford one. I settled on the box blade because it can do everything the other two do, plus contain material.
A land plane would a great addition. The scraper blade would be nice too. But for my money, a box blade is the best all around implement for those on a budget.
I agree 👍
Thanks for covering all the implements there Hank. If i ever need one i know what to get now. Thanks my friend for sharing.
Thanks for watching Alan👍
Good information for someone not knowledgeable on these implements
Thanks for watching 👍
Your pretty darn slick with land plane Hank. Made your drive way look good. I have a box blade and rear scraper blade that I'll probably put on Marketplace as i pretty much just use the box blade. BTW i like the hydraulic top link on your three point hitch. Thats sweet. I hafta get me one as i already got 2 rear remotes on my tractor. Good video buddy.
Thanks Dean. The hydraulic top link is a game changer. You need one 😃
This has helped me so much! Thank you
Glad it helped!
Yes sir you said it, the soil sucks here in the panhandle. SPEED = DISTANCE
Thanks for watching 👍
with my driveway that is 150ft plus downhill or up depending on which way you are going a landplane would be great, all the gravel washes to the bottom with heavy rains, been using a rear blade, it came with the tractor. but don't seem to pick enough gravel to actually fill in the ruts unless I spend a few hours grading it.
Yeah that's tough.
This guys accent, totally awesome
When you cut the ditch with the scraper blade you should pull the material to the center of the road to crown it. Otherwise you just put all your material in the ditch.
I'm buying my first tractor and I'm enjoying your channel. I have an old field with old rows I need to flatten and I think I'm going to get a box blade.
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Hello Hank it's me your favorite subscriber I really like your video on implements and how they operate you're doing real good keep up the good work I'll get back with you later to poke more fun at you I wish you the best bye-bye
Thanks for watching!
Enjoy your videos. I'm getting a tractor soon. I need 6 foot implements for a kubota 4701. I'm getting a 6 foot rear blade from a friend. I've been going back and forth on a box blade or landplane. As long as my budget allows I've decided to get both. Problem solved. Ha. Also my new stuff will be homestead implements. I love everything attachments stuff and they are pretty local to me in NC but right now they have a 8 plus week lead time. So I've decided to go with homestead implements. They seem to be a good quality for good prices. I'm also a veteran so the discount is nice too
Yeah Brad, you'll love their stuff. Thanks for watching 👍
I’d advise you to get your land plane exactly 1/2 the width of your driveway. That way you can angle it to lay a crown if you need one. If your plane is too wide it won’t run on the skids and work as efficiently.
Nice video. I did see with the sand the box blade may have been a better choice. Here in Kentucky a land plane seems to do all seeing there is rocky clay like soil and I do have a very long gravel drive and a large gravel parking area around my barn as well. I do repair ruts in the drive that does not have gravel as well because of all the rock and clay the land plane just does the job better than a box blade would. The type of soil or the material you are levelling obviously have more to do with the choice than anything else.
Lol. I just sent you a link to this video.
Some rear blades have double swing points to offset to either side of tractor and angling blade makes waste go in nicer wind row
Yeah those are nice👍
Good one, Hank!
Wow, what an awesome video. Well done Hank. I think I’m going to need all three. 👍🏼
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Very interesting video. I currently have a box blade, trying to decide what implement to purchase next. we have several small projects and of course they all have different needs. Thinking maybe it is time to invest in the hydraulic top link.
Brad, you'll love it👍
You are having way too much fun!😂💜💕👍
Yes we are!!! thanks for watching!
On your box blade, I notice you have some kinda attachment on the side, that I imagine helps keep it from digging in too deep - one of the issues I have with mine is that as it starts getting full it'll squat the tractor (it's only a 3025e), squishing the rear tires. Even though it still has enough power and traction to pull it, it'll cause uneven grading... I think some of those skids or whatever they're called might help... Any idea what they're called? I can probably make some, but it would be easier to buy some... Thanks in advance!
There's a channel I watch called Captain Kleenman. He uses an attachment called a pulverizer. It looks really slick for road maintenance.
Right on. I've seen a few of his videos 👍
Great discussion. Just taken delivery of the Branson 3515R and have a little 5 acre piece in Arkansas. Got a run of 200 x 600 that is a field I'd love to level out...but it's got a ton of rock in the soil. I think the box blade will be best as an "all in one" because ultimately I'd like to de-rock the topsoil and just put some bermuda down.
My two cents; weight is your friend, the heaver, the better. Get one wider than your rear wheels, you’ll be able to put the scraper right up against stuff whiteout tires causing issues… and get hydraulic top and bottom links.. I realize the rear hydraulics are pricey but in my opinion one of the best investments you can make.. it changes the game and what you can do with a box scraper…
Great video! I currently have a box blade for my JD 3025E and it works well for many projects around our homestead here in the deserts of South Eastern Arizona. But I am needing an attachment for removal of sand that accumulates after monsoons storms and road flooding. We end up with an extra 6-8 inches of sand on top of our dirt roads brought in by washes flooding the road. The box blade will move the sand but it's real slow going. I was thinking of a rear blade that will act almost like a snow plow to move the sand off to the side of the road. Any suggestions you might have would be much appreciated.
Yeah, we do that with the rear blade here in Florida. Tons of sand. Thank you for watching
Great video bro. All the best
Thanks a ton
Hank and Gina, been a long time since Harvest band. Love your channel and use it often. - John
Right on! Been a while! Thanks for watching 👍
I like Homestead implements products but I don't have 10 weeks to wait for shipping.
Good stuff Hank. I appreciate you putting this video together.
I'm about to acquire some land in north Florida (east of you) that used to be a tree farm. You may know that tree farm land has some tight undulating surfaces. I want to smooth it out. But, I'm not sure which piece of equipment is best to accomplish this. I was thinking the Land Leveler (plane). But, maybe a skid steer with a bucket might be better. Any suggestions? Thanks.
It really depends on what you’re trying to achieve and how much time and money you want to spend on it. A box blade will be good for starting off with if you do t have a skid steer
Personally, I only had resources for one good tractor, backhoe, loader combo. I knew i would need a post hole digger so i packaged that too. I was blessed to find new shredder, finish mower, box blade, rear blade and other at auction. If my resources were greater i would prefer a skid steer and mini excavator. Maybe one day... but til then, i have been blessed to have all this to start with. What's (or who's ) in your wallet? Lol
What should I use to landscape and clean up from brush hog?
Complicated way to adjust the blade. Im one for hydraulic. Easy offset with a pin, hydraulic angling and steeper. Also, when cutting, turn the blade a rouch to throw the cut material away from the ditch. Know its just a simple video, but it helps demonstrate a touch better.
I enjoy your vids i learn some ever vid
Thank you. I appreciate you watching
Excellent video comparison Hank! Is that a 7 foot back blade? I really like how it offsets. I have a 6 footer that came with my Mahindra but there is no offset adjustment. I'm going to keep my eyes open this year for a good deal on an offset adjustable back blade.
Yes it's a 7' I like it a lot👍
I have 2 problems with a box blade. When I do my driveway I get the piles of rock on the outside of the box as you did with the sand and I have no idea how to fix that.
The second problem my road has some small ups and downs, as the front of the tractor goes up the box blade digs deeper in the back. Yes, I can lift it, but then I can't get it back to the position it was in before. I have a manual adjustment.
It just takes time and patience. You can also fill in the deeps to make it level. But the more you do it, the more you'll learn how to make it work for you. Try different techniques when you're using it and not do the same thing everytime. Thanks for watching 👍
I still cant decide! I'm gonna get one of each. :)
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Nice video showing the differences. Very informative and good job showing them in action. 👍
Thanks Jason. Happy Thanksgiving
Great video average guy better off with scrap blade type. I could always do most anything with it
You aren't getting a good crown with the land plane because you aren't exactly using it properly. The LEFT side of the plane always goes down the CENTER of the driveway, the blades are mounted at an angle in order for it to pull gravel up at the edge of the driveway and distribute it evenly from RIGHT to LEFT. Your second pass up the driveway was going the wrong way, you should have been driving back down towards the gate. All you succeeded in doing was flattening the crown you had built up from the first pass.
Interesting. ... thanks
You’re pretty good with you capital letters
Nice piece of equipment it sure will does help out a lot. Excellent work and thanks for the awesome content stay safe and take care
Thanks Hayden,👍
@@HamiltonvilleFarm No problem Hank 👍
Hank for a more aggressive dig with a rear blade, modify you setup in a couple of ways.
1) angle your blade with the cutting edge closer to the tractor rear tire, in addition to the slant down on that side.
2) set the cutting (low edge) in line with the rear tire.
Now on each additional pass if wanting a deeper ditch, drive with your rear tire in the ditch you cut on the previous pass and you will dig deeper as your tractor is at an angle so you increased your blade slant by having that side of the tractor lower.
Thanks Coy!
I think u might have run a road grader hu. After I ran. A grader for the county u it’s aggravating sometimes watching some guys work on frites with a tractor
@@randywilson6869 What?
@@camarogs1 must have been drunk or high.
Love your vids Hank
Thanks Hank!
What about for dragging snow. To pull snow away from tight places. Box blade or rear blade. Thanks Mate...
I’d go rear blade for snow👍
💥 Excellent demonstration Hank!
*Keep on tractoring!* 👍
Thanks 👍
Good video hank,I got box blade I need scrape blade ,and I still like tractor
Right on Mr. Joe. They are super handy!
@@HamiltonvilleFarm I got 4 weeks and I can get back on tractor,cant wait..
That’s all you really need is a box blade will do all you need. By quality three-point hook up with a good box blade. Do not waste your money on the others. I say this because I’m a professional box blade operator and equipment operator for over 40 years.
Box blades are cool. Until you address the water transition from the high side to the low side it will continue to be a maintenance issue with washouts.
The rear blade works good in sand, but give it real road material and you need a heavier rear blade that won’t bend. Rhino is a good brand to look into.
Thanks for watching!
The rear blade is the ditch bitch of the blades. The box blade is the brush hog of blades. The land plane is the finish mower blades. And the asphalt paver is the end of the blade.
Great Video! The Branson is the same tractor I'm getting. Partly because of your videos.
Right on Dave. I've been real happy with this one. Thank you for watching.
Dave millar were looking to get a new compact tractor in the feature wich we looked at a 62hp MX6000 kubota with loader
Are land planes good for grading around new homes?
Thanks for showing the difference between them Hank! Happy Thanksgiving!
Happy Thanksgiving John!
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ANGLE BOX BLADE WITH SCARIFIRES WILL C U T PERFECT DITCH
I’m curious as to whether your tractor will pull those rippers through the hard pan.
Oh yeah, they will do great. I've done it in several areas around the property with no issues. You just have to be careful around roots and stumps with all the torque my tractor has.
How does the box blade do when you have hills that you want to angle but not take the hill down?
You can adjust the angle of the box blade to create crowns or angles.
If you have a steep up and down driveway with gravel, which one would be better? I was wondering if the box blade would be better to carry/move loose gravel back up on the steep part of the driveway or does the land plane do just as good relocating stone up hill?
No. If you wanna carry spoils use a box blade. The landplane won’t carry the stone for you 👍
@@HamiltonvilleFarm thanks for the heads up!
I like your tractor, I like my tym 454 more, but I would have had a Branson if they didn't quote me 40 grand when I bought mine.
The TYM is a nice tractor.
Great video Hank. It's great to see what modern tractors and readily available attachments can do at a small harm or homestead.
I plan to purchase 10 acres in FL next year. For now, I'm investigating the area around Dunnellon, Crystal River. I'm looking forward to getting me a tractor, some attachments and put them to work developing the land for a homestead.
Right on! Have fun!
Good job 👍 God bless
Thanks Ralph 👍
I’ve used a blade and a box blade like both but like you said they all have there own jobs that one is better than the other
That's right 👍
Great explanation!
Thanks for watching 👍
Must be nice to live in a place with no rocks.
What's a good all around tractor? I have 10 acres
just bought a kioto CS2220 / 21 hp and a box blade with 3 rippers to use on my gravel driveway with an incline. Never owned a tractor nor box blade. To small of a tractor? To small of a box blade?
I know it an old video but I kinda feel like a hydraulic side link with a hydraulic top link would make a box blade work like a land plane. Any thoughts anyone, I just used a box blade today for the first time and I like it. Been useing my 4 way hydraulic straight blade before.
I’d love to add a hydraulic side link. That would be awesome for sure
I like the Box blade but ive used all three.
Right on 👍
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how do you tilt or angle the box blade (4:17)? It seems like it would just do whatever the tractor does in terms of tilting.
At 14:56 you see me angling the rear blade. Same technique. Adjust the lift arms to the desired level👍
@@HamiltonvilleFarm ok, thanks. I'm still waiting for my first ever tractor (Kubota B2601) to be delivered in a couple of weeks and trying to learn in advance how to do things.
Right on. You're gonna love having a tractor. TH-cam is a wealth of knowledge 👍
@@HamiltonvilleFarm thank you! I appreciate you and others for blessing people like myself with these "how to" videos. I hope to bless in return and/or pass it on
Check your bolts nut should be on back side
Thanks. I appreciate it
Nice. But which one is best for leveling hog rooting in a pasture with thick grass?
probably a 30.06 😂
@@HamiltonvilleFarm and a trap, for the times we can't be there. It's amazing how small of a trap can catch 6 grown hogs. Good sausage there.
It's been on my mind to rebuild the tiller that my dad used before he died and try it on the rooted areas.
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Grea t informative clip. I have the heavy duty box blade for my tractor.
Thanks for watching 👍
Great video! Thank you.
Thanks for watching 👍
Where did you get your hydraulic top link
Tractor supply company.
Thanks for the info
Thanks for watching 👍
Easy answer. All 3
Lol. True
Nice comparison. I only have the box blade right now but I’m intending to get all three because I have a lot to maintain and they each have their place
Thanks for watching 👍
When you buy the rear blade, buy one that has both tilt and angle capabilities. Not like the one shown on this video. Adjust the tilt, then use the 3 point turnbuckle for fine adjustment if needed. You'll thank yourself if you ever have to reestablish old silted up ditches.
@@TheBrushcutter thanks
I’ve got 20 acres to maintain and a long rock driveway with a big crown in it
@@RockhillfarmYT I hear ya. Years ago when my grandparents were alive, the road through their farm was over a mile long. I used a blade such as that to maintain it and keep the ditches open.
What is the H.P. of your tractor? Thanks
55hp
I like to pull or cut the ditches first using the drag blade...one with hydraulics is the bees knees
Yeah what I'd like is a hydraulic side link to add to my hydraulic top link. That would be awesome
A cylinder that tilts the blade makes pulling ditches like frosting a cake
What would we use for packed clay soil?
I’d say a box blade
@@HamiltonvilleFarm Thank you!
We have been advised a rototiller behind the Kubota, but I have read it is not good to till clay.
@@jolenebailey3821 till clay and add compost and even uncomposted grass and till it again. You will turn it from evil dirt to soil. Add crushed limestone if pH is low. Do that several years in a row and you will be amazed at what will grow.
@@brianhillis3701 Thank you Brian! I will give it a try.
When did you go to Branson?
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Your best bet is to hire someone that knows what they are doing, cheers
Just roads with these ? how's it in a rough field? grass
They work great in those conditions.
@@HamiltonvilleFarm both of them Thank's
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Thank you so much for this. For those who don’t know what any of these things are, it’s super helpful to get a beginning introduction just like this. The tough of one’s own ignorance can be difficult to start climbing out of, but you’re making exactly that possible here.
John Deere and Rhino build rear blades that hydraulically offset.
Thanks for watching
Great video thumbs up
Thanks for watching 👍