I appreciate you guys are willing to really put yourselves out there with so much of your own personal emotions and feelings about events of the end times! I don't always agree but totally respect your descriptions! As believers we don't have to always agree! We can stand together still with much respect for each other and not allow the world/the devil to divide us! Amen!!
Sycamore Reformed Baptist did the best study over ever heard on this including year 70 being the jubilee of Jubikees. He posted it 8 months ago. Great Video guys!
If only every church had your leadership with such passion, and seeking of truth and revelation from God's Word! I am questioning two assertions made : 1) that the Messiah and the prince of verse 26 are the same person, (including that "his people" are the Hebrews themselves), and 2) that destruction will be poured out on a "desolator" or "one who desolates" in the second half of Dan 9:27, because that one who desolates is the Messiah Himself. I agree with you that Daniel 26 and 27 are in two halves - except the first half *of each* is about the Messiah and what He did, and the second half *of each* is about what happened to the people (the Hebrews) and the Holy City, because of what they did in response to their Messiah. Question #1 is, how can the Messiah come and die in the first half of v26, but also be the same "prince who is to come" in the second half, (that is about the Hebrews and the Holy City only)? He already came and died, so He can't still be waiting to appear. In the KJV of v25, Messiah the Prince correctly has an upper case P. In v26, the "prince" who is to come correctly has a lower case "p". Not the same princes. (The NASB also differentiates the two with an upper and lower case "p", and the ESV2011 differentiates by showing v25 as the annointed one, and the prince in v26 is a lower case prince, also not the same princes). Jesus confirms in Luke 19:43-44, that *their enemies will surround them* and lay them flat. The people described in v26 are not the Hebrews themselves, or the Messiah, but, as Jesus said, their enemies, the Romans and Titus. Verse 27, not 26, gives the explanation as to who ordered the desolation of the Temple and City - the Messiah. (Who literally performed the desolation in v26 was Titus and solidiers). Below is the KJV of Dan 9:27 showing the continuity of all three instances of "he" being the Messiah: And *he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:* and in the midst of the week *he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,* and for the overspreading of abominations *he shall make [it] desolate* ... The last portion of v27, reveals both the length of the desolation upon the nation of Israel. *even until the consummation,* and, the *desolate* are the Hebrew people, the Temple, and the City, who will remain that way until the consummation of the world, in the vacating of their covenant, the end of all Levitical ceremonial practices, and the scorn and humiliation before the world for condemning and rejecting their Messiah. (Aren't the small remant still taunted and ridiculed until this day)? *and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate* I am thoroughly convinced the following three additions in the NASB and ESV2011 are a complete fabrication to add an antiChrist figure that isn't there, to force fit their eschatology: ... [ *will come] one who makes desolate* *the desolator* *the one who makes desolate* These translations would have us believe some man appears out of nowhere to have destruction poured out on him. The "one who makes desolate" or "the desolator" - IS THE MESSIAH, so that can't be a correct interpretation. Correct: KJV The Messiah: 1st Half: (Dan 9:27) And *he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:* and in the midst of the week *he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,* and for the overspreading of abominations *he shall make it desolate* The Hebrews and the City: 2nd half: *even until the consummation,* and that determined shall be poured upon *the desolate.* Correct: Updated King James The Messiah: 1st half: (Dan 9:27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, The Hebrews and the City: 2nd half: even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Incorrect: NASB 1st half: (Dan 9:27) “And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; 2nd half: and on the wing of abominations *[will come] one* who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on *the one who makes desolate.* ” Incorrect: ESV2011 1st half: (Dan 9:27) And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. 2nd half: And on the wing of abominations *shall come one* who makes desolate, until the decreed end is *poured out on the desolator.* ”
Just looking into this and interested to understand your interpretation and questions. one thing strikes me as odd however in that you state that various capital letters are correct. my understanding is that there are no capital letters in hebrew. for this reason, it seems that the KJV and others are not fully translations, but are at least party theological commentaries. I hope this observation makes sense and would be interested in your ideas following your assertion that the capital and lower case letters are correct.
Is the New Covenant found in Daniel chapter 9? Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate. Daniel 9:27 And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. (b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection. (c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them. ------------------------------------------------ During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary? Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.) Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD. Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”. Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below? Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV) Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews? We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled. Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below? Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below? Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16. Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels? In Galatians 1:14-18 Paul reveals he did not go up to see Peter until about 3 years after his conversion. During that time the Gospel continued to be taken almost exclusively to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles. Read the recent book "The 70th Week of Daniel 9 DECODED" by David Wilcoxson for confirmation of the above.
Here's what I know for sure. God has put scripture together in a way to blind his enemies and enlighten those of his own household, his children. Those who LOVE THE TRUTH will either figure it out or atleast will find peace in an interpretation that is biblical in so far as can be exegited. God is so wise to cloud and reveal at the same time according to his will.
The following proves you might be correct. Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order ) Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse. Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb. Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present? The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ. He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18. The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15. The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13. He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet? He comes on a horse in chapter 19. Chapter 20? Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1? (The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.) There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46. Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time? Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner. Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book. The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
From what scriptures do you gather it being 3.5 years, or any specific timeframe? The 3.5 Great Tribulation is extrapolated from Daniel 9 70th week incorrect interpretation, making the week at the end as the tribulation. This video goes over that is an incorrect understanding, so any timeframe is wrong. It seems Jesus does return during a troubling time and dishes out the punishment, that all hide under the rocks. From scriptures, it is impossible to gather some kind of timeframe.
@@michaelseay9783deceivers??? So some one else’s interpretation or understanding than yours makes them a deceiver? Using that logic why doesn’t that make YOU a deceiver?
If Daniel, when he read Jeremiah, realized that the 70 years prophesied were nearly up, how did he know that if he couldn't rely on the captivity of Judah being LITERALLY 70 years? Whatever the starting date of the 70 sevens (which we don't know exactly, but God does--as we can't rely on written history), the Messiah fulfilled the prophecy exactly 483 years from the starting date. “When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near." To equate this to the Abomination of Desolation (because the English word desolation is used) is really stretching it. Does the following verse from Matt 24 says anythhing about "when you see armies"? Mt 24:15 So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ as described by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand), 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. (Yes, Luke is speaking about 70 A.D. when he speaks of armies, but Matt is not when it talks about the Abom. of Des. of the future. Luke never even mentions the Abom of Desolation.) Jesus in Matt is talking about a destestible idol being set up and the AntiChrist taking a seat in the Holy Place and declaring himself to be God. An abomination. The abomination of Desolation is the sign of the great tribulation.. "For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time..." He meant when you see the Abom of Des, then great Tribulation.
Yes, I would have to agree with you on your understanding of 3 and 1/2 years. I heard it a long time ago explained that way by brother Harold Camping. From the sacrifice to the consummation. But at the same time I disagree with your emphasis on these interpretations as if to have any significance for the jewish people and what happened to them in the past. It's a new covenant .
Seventy weeks are determined upon *thy people and upon thy holy city* ...to finish the transgression, and (Jn 1:29; 1 Jn 3:5; Is 53:12) ...to make an end of sins, and (1 Cor 15:3; Col 1:19-20; Heb 9:26-28) ...to make reconciliation for iniquity, and (Rom 5:10; 2 Cor 5:18; Col 1:20-22; Eph 2:14-16) ...to bring in everlasting righteousness, and (Matt 3:15; Rom 3:21-22; Rom 8:4; 2 Cor 5:21) ...to seal up the vision and prophecy, and (Jn 19:30; Luke 24:25-27; Rev 19:10) ...to anoint the most Holy. (Is 61:1; Mark 1:15; Luke 4:18; Heb 9:8) {Daniel 9:24} < The context And he [the Messiah] shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK: and IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK (the seventieth) he [Christ] SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations (the continued temple sacrifices, after Christ one perfect sacrifice.) he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. ("Behold your house has been left unto you desolate.") {Daniel 9:27} 7 weeks + 62 weeks + *one week* = 70 weeks, to anoint the most Holy, and to seal up the vision and the prophecy. Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, *It was necessary* that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: (for there were three and a half years remaining grace for "thy people" of the final week.) but seeing ye put it from you, and *judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life* lo, we turn to the Gentiles. For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. {Acts 13:46-48} To fulfil the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until *the land had enjoyed her sabbaths* for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years. {2 Chronicles 36:21} For 490 years, equal to 70 sabbath rest for the land every seventh year, that Israel and Judah transgressed the law of God. This is why they received seventy years exiled in bondage in the land of Babylon. There was no gap in their seventy years in exil, and there is no gap in the 490 years of transgressing the law of God, and there most certainly was no gap unto the coming of the Messiah who did not come in a vacuum, but rather confirmed his covenant with many for there and a half years, and in the land of Israel's inheritance. The stoning of Steven is when probation closed on the covenant that God made with the their fathers, exactly three and a half years after Jesus Christ, our passover was sacrificed for us, and the gospel of the kingdom of heaven went out unto the Gentiles also.
The following proves you are correct. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26 cannot be separated from the New Covenant fulfilled by His blood at Calvary. Is the New Covenant found in Daniel chapter 9? Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores about the time of the Civil War. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate. Daniel 9:27 And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. (See Rom. 1:16, Matt. 10:5-7, Acts 10:36-38) (b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection. (See Heb. 9:15) (c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them. (See Matt. 23:38, Matt. 24:1-2, Luke 19:41-44) ------------------------------------------------ During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary? Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.) Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD. Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”. Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below? Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV) Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews? We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled. Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below? Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below? Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16. Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels? In Galatians 1:14-18 Paul reveals he did not go up to see Peter until about 3 years after his conversion. During that time the Gospel continued to be taken almost exclusively to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles. Watch the TH-cam video on Daniel 9 by Dr. Kelly Varner.
@@SpotterVideo the passages in Act 10 that you quote were spoken to Cornelius and family and friends (all God fearing gentiles) by Peter after shown and taught in the vision that he was to call no human unclean and that God shows no partiality and is no respecter of persons Acts 10:28,34,35. From vs 36 it is stated that the gathered gentiles to whom Peter was speaking knew "the contents of the message which God had sent to Israel, announcing the good news of peace by Jesus Christ, Who is Lord of all." And in Acts 15 Paul and Barnabas went to Jerusalem to tell the brethren about the gentile conversions. Paul was converted in chapter 9 of Acts. Acts 9:38-29 says paraphrasing, He went in and among them at Jerusalem until the Hellenistic Jews were seeking to slay him I do not know the timeline of these events. I think Acts 15: 14-18 are very significant as well quoting Amos 9: 11-12. As I understand it, from different commentaries and Bibles, Acts was written prob by Luke, a gentile between 61-63 AD and Luke's gospel between 58-70 AD and Paul's letter to Galatians was written 49-55 AD. Do you have further information?
Hey brother, dumb question but I had replied to a post you made on Warren's channel regarding the rapture and then your post was gone. Did you delete it or was it Warren?
Is the New Covenant found in Daniel chapter 9? Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate. Daniel 9:27 And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. (b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection. (c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them. ------------------------------------------------ During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary? Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.) Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD. Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”. Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below? Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV) Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews? We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled. Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below? Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below? Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16. Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels? In Galatians 1:14-18 Paul reveals he did not go up to see Peter until about 3 years after his conversion. During that time the Gospel continued to be taken almost exclusively to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles. Read the recent book "The 70th Week of Daniel 9 DECODED" by David Wilcoxson for confirmation of the above.
Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? Yes and No. Yes, Gabriel revealed the exact time from start to finish for when the Messiah, Jesus, would be cut-off. God revealed the New Covenant after Jesus appeared and sacraficed Himself for our sake. Seems like the problem you are having is that you don't like how God is handling things? Sounds like a Daniel 4:35 problem. All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; He does according to His will in the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth. No one can restrain His hand or say to Him, “What have You done?” It's not tied up in a nice neat bow and presented in a way that you would like to have it presented. But you're not God, are you?
@@robertbrown7470 God revealed the New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34. Daniel was reading from the Book of Jeremiah when the angel Gabriel appeared. Based on Hebrews 12:22-24, the Messiah's death in Daneil 9:26 cannot be separated from the New Covenant fulfilled by His blood at Calvary. See the words "church" and "new covenant" and "Mount Sion" and "Jesus" and "blood" in the passage below. Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
"The 7 should not be separated from the 62" You're right. Neither should the 70th be separated from 69 preceding. Date for decree is 457 B. C. See Walter Martin sermon on tribulation affirming historic premill. He references archealogical evidence settling date of Artaxerxes decree in 457 B. C. Also see MLJTrust, that is Martin Lloyd Jones on Daniel 9 and 70 weeks. The text says until Messiah, the prince. Moschiach means annointed. Acts tells us Jesus was annointed with Holy Ghost and with power at His baptism. He said when He came to Nazareth, that the Lord had annointed Him. Jesus baptism happened exactly 483 years from 457 and arguably where the gospels place His showing forth to Israel, the 15th year of Tiberius, approximately 27 A.D. This fits Jesus birth at about 4 B. C also.. Herod died in 2 B. C., so has to be around 4 B. C. Then at 30 years of age, again, we set Jesus' baptism around 27 A D. Then, note, when Jesus goes forth to preach, the first thing basically preached......"the time is fulfilled". What time? The 62 weeks (built on top of the first 7) leading to Christ's annointing. Yes, it is after that time was fulfilled that He was cut off, but more particularly, in the middle of the 70th week, He caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease. Ending the jewish economy of sacrifices, etc, by His cross. For one week He was confirming the covenant in Himself, bringing people to faith in Him, first in His own ministry, and then for the second half of the 70th week through the disciples, however, after their initial official rejection, in the kangaroo trial of Christ, shortly thereafter, they would seal that probably through the official rejection of Christ in His servants at the stoning of Stephen by the Sanhedrin. This brought an end to their national probation. That's what 490 stands for, the end of opportunity; the closing of the door of mercy. The result of the rejection, Jesus declaration, making their temple desolate, "your house (no my Father's anymore) is left unto you desolate". Remember the first usage of 490 in Genesis. A declaration of unrelenting depravity and rebellion....the committing of an unpardonable sin, a sin that will never be repented of. See also Heb. 6. Sorry, Jesus references, the 490 in discussion of extent of forgiveness, for that very purpose, to indicate the limitations of mercy for those who harden their hearts and reject the Divine Gospel. There is an end to forgiveness....when the person no longer can or will repent.....Judas crossed that line. The nation of the Jews crossed that line during the 70th week, by rejecting Christ and the New Covenant in HIs blood, which He confirmed with many at that time. Thus the whole 70th week passed in immediate order from the first 69. There is no and can be no gap. The destruction of the desolate people and temple does not and is not expressly said to occur during the 70 weeks. It is enough to know that the destruction will fall on the temple and nation made desolate,(empty of or disconnected from God), although it come sometime later, in 70 A. D. Daniel's real people are those who accept the Holy Covenant.(as at the close of Daniel, all those found written in the book.) Those whose identification is with the sanctuary whose Most Holy was annointed at the true Pentecost, and who themselves, like the Hebrews of Old were sprinkled by the Holy Ghost at the original sanctuary's inaugaration, and extending to those who should believe on Christ through their testimony.
Your placement of the 3 1/2 years is generally good, but I think should be seen to be same as 70 weeks in this: days stand for years. It is not the whole of the Christian era, but falls within it. When you approach the mountains and you begin to go through them, you look and some mountains fall behind you and some which seemed closer together from the distance, now may still stand ahead of you on your journey......this is historicism. As you keep walking through history, you find the landmarks, the waymarks, you pass them and yet some lay ahead. The text, giving us a view of high points in the future from John, makes the mountain of the 3 1/2 and the ascension look close together, but there is no grammatical insistence on codating them together. The 3 1/2 years are the persecution by the so called "holy roman empire", the little horn of Dan. 7. This begins after breakup/division of Roman Empire into tribes of Western Europe. Little Horn removes some of those tribes in rising. Then little horn persecutes for 42 months or same as 3 1/2 years. These interpreted as days for years, come to 1260 years. Cannot begin until the secular roman empire restrainer is taken out of the way/removed. 2 Thess. 2, the man of sin, develops out of the original apostasy that was already beginning in Paul's day through the mystery of iniquity. The man of sin, is corrupted Christianity, therefore given same moniker to Judas, Son of Perdition. Note also, John identifies antichrists as those who "go out from us"; apostate Christianity. Antichrist sits in the temple of God, regularly identified as the church in Pauline writings. You point this out in your two witnesses study, I think. BTW, the 3 1/2 is alluded to in the 7 churches. Jezebel the apostate woman, who controlled the state to persecute Elijah. And there was no rain, the Scriptures being so hindered at that time as to make impossible the latter rain refreshing and word of God cleansing of the church, for her presentation to Christ. This Jezebel story which contains in it the 3 1/2 years is referenced particularly in the middle of the 7 churches. Baptists, and I might suggest, we SDAs are the outgrowth of movements to restore/bring forward the original Biblical faith represented under later churches after Thyatira, after the many centuries of darkness and "no rain". The Roman Empire doesn't fall till like 476 A.D. Then the man of sin can be revealed. In 508 secular arms stand up for the Papacy, who sits in the "temple of God", the church, claiming prerogatives of God. In 538, the Ostrogoths are driven from Rome, and the new head of the empire is finally established there, and having a mouth speaking blasphemous things. Is it any wonder that exactly 1260 years later, Napoleon's general Berthier arrests the pope, who shortly thereafter dies in captivity? And shortly after the tribulation "of those days", the greatest meteor shower the world has ever known occurs, the great Leonids meteor shower of 1833, stars falling "like a fig tree, casting forth its untimely figs". Notes of interest from your historicist friend. Think about it. Selah. Sincerely wising you the best of God's blessings.
Brother, where do you get these 3 1/2 years to become more than 2000 years? Brother, you can sincerely believe in what you say ; with all due respect and love for you, I want to let you know that you are sincerely wrong about the last part of this prophecy. A time prophecy can not be defined by two different methods . You are wrong. You are already defined "a day for a year" Ezekiel 4:5,6; Numbers14:34, Luke 13:32.33. May the Lord be with you. Please be very careful not to mislead anyone by adding subtracting anything to and from he scripture Revelation 22:18,19.
@@ronniewright6639 The decree to rebuild Jerusalem was given in 457 BC (Daniel 9:24, Ezra 7:11-12). this is the starting point of both the 7 X70 and the 2300 day prophecies (Daniel 8:14). A day equals a year in Bible prophecy (Ezekiel 4:6, Numbers 14:34). 34 AD was the stoning of Stephen and 1844 AD was the end of the longest prophecy in the BIble.
When you multiply everything out, and take the following into account... #1 It is 69 weeks until the messiah is "cut off" #2 each week is a group of seven years #3 A prophetic year in the Bible ( figured out from Genesis) is 360 days #4 Our year is 365 days #5 along the time period there are 16 leap years so add 16 additional days #6 1 B.C to 1 A.D. is only one year , not two #7 The 70 weeks start from the call to rebuild Jerusalem by Artaxerxes (on March 15 445 B.C. as known from extra biblical history) You end up with the 69th week ending at April 6th , 32 A.D. The time Christians celebrate Resurrection day ( Easter for pagans , from the word Ishtar) Now look at the account in Luke of Jesus triumphal entry...what did he say " If you, even you had known what day this is, and what makes for peace..." The seventieth week is of course the Tribulation.
@@markanthony3275 #1 Messiah was cut off in the middle of the 69 weeks. #2 true. #3 Prophetic year is 360 years (Numbers 14:34, Ezekiel 46). #4 True. #5 True #6 1 BC, 0, 1 AD. If you add the zero you would get 2 years, count them. #7 The decree to rebuild Jeruslem, spoken if by the angel to Daniel, was given in 457 BC (see Daniel 9:25, Ezra 7:11-12). This is the starting date of the 2300 day/year prophecy. The stoning of Stephen was in 34 AD. the time of Jacobs trouble will be the start of the 7 last plagues. Jacob will be saved out of it. God's saints will be hear for the 7 last plagues. The dead in Christ will rise first and then those saints on earth will meet Jesus in the air. No 7 year tribulation and no second chances.
At 11:57, the video states that the 490 years (or 70, 7s) does not have to be 100% literal. I have recenlty seen others state this view What makes this even more intriguing to me is the person/group believing this ends up shaving off years wherever they see fit in order to form their own version of Daniel's prophecy. How is this possible to do and be taken seriously about whatever interpretation follows? Is it okay if Jesus did not spend a literal 3 days and nights in the grave as he said? Jonah, too? Was his time in the fish maybe 2 days? What about when Moses spent 40 days on the mountain or Jesus tempted for 40 days? Those were not 40 literal days, but maybe 30? But then these people/groups go on to relate this prophecy with 42 months, 3 1/2 years, and other time periods. They choose to take the literal mraning of those times. They ignore the literal meaning of the time period in one part of this prophecy, while adhering to another time period at the end of the same prophecy. So they end up approximating the times stated in order to fit their own conclusion they have come up with. Come on, now. I had to stop the video at 12:04 (the time they just got done reading the passage, after their introduction, and were starting to explain) because they immediately showed they weren't trying to find the truth of scripture, but rather going to try to make scripture fit their own version of the truth. Bad teaching and deceptive to your audience.
It is literal. The prophecy of the 69 Sevens of Years tells us when the Messiah would be cut-off and it coincides with the timeframe we know as Christians, probably to the exact day if we are smart enough to calculate it, but within a couple years for most of us is good enough. The gap between the 69th Seven and the 70th Seven is not a theory, it is a reality and we can see it now in the year 2024, nearly 2,000 years later. We can even understand how the entire world can rejoice and send gifts to one another when the Two Witnesses are killed and their dead bodies like in the streets of Jerusalem. That could not be seen as possible until roughly the 1960's. Just for an illustration.
Appealing to the butchering of Daniel 9:25 by the ESV is an atrocious decision but ty for pointing out how poorly they translated that verse. "until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him." This occurs to the prince in verse 26 so therefore it can't be messiah Jesus as that prince. The explanation for the second half of the tribulation being the entire church age seems really outlandish, respectfully.
Or Jesus is crucified in the middle of the last week which puts an end to sacrifice (even though the Temple will stand for another 40 years). At the temple (or Temple Mount area or Moriah) He will set up the abomination that causes desolation. What if the abomination is the rejection of the Messiah and asking for Him to be crucified and that somewhere on the Temple Mount (Fort Antonio) the abomination of murdering God's son is done at the request of "his people". Thus the desolation doesn't have to occur during the week - the abomination occurs. The desolation occurs 40 years later with the destruction of the Temple. What is more abominable than rejecting Christ after witnessing his miracles and killing the Son of God (although John 10 - He laid down His life). Therefore the end that is decreed on Him is the crucifixion and the last 3 1/2 years goes to the stoning of Stephen and the movement of many nations joining the church which initially is all converted Jews (as we joined the one flock in John 10) and we were grafted into the Olive Tree (Romans 11). So that Christians joined Israel (the Jews that converted). However, love your series and the time you put into this, and I haven't seen anyone think the abomination is the crucifixion of Christ so my thought is probably wrong, but what is more abominable then that, even though the result is salvation for us and the greatest blessing ever.
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You’ll forgive my ignorance but, I don’t believe Cyrus was the one who issued the command. It was Artaxerxes during the time of Ezra. If you carefully consider the wording in Daniel, it pertains to a command to restore and rebuild the temple. This can be found in Nehemiah. Furthermore, from the time the command was given, we have a period of 483 years which brings us to the banks of the Jordan River and the baptism of Jesus. Jesus was declared to be God’s Son. Hence, he is announced as a prince. He is Messiah the Prince who came to put an end to transgression and to make an end of sin and to complete all prophecy. His ministry lasted for 3.5 years (1/2 seven) and then He was cut off, just as Isaiah and David say. He was not cut off for Himself. Thus, 69 sevens brings us from the decree of Artaxerxes to the beginning of Jesus’s ministry. The first half of the 70th seven has been fulfilled. What remains is the final half-week (1260 days, time times and half a time, 42 months, etc) which will begin to tick off once the man of lawlessness is revealed. Meanwhile, we are in the period which extends from the cross to the man of sin. This is what some refer to as the Millennium. Don’t let the 1000yrs language fool you. This is the view in Heaven where the saints who have died have gone to be with Jesus and are worshiping Him even now. Don’t you recall that a day with the Lord is as a 1000 years? Don’t you remember that on the 7th day The Lord rested from all His works? That “day” is the 1000yrs where He dwells. We who believe enter that rest along with Him. When Joshua entered the promised land, He was commanded to go “about 2000 paces” before the rest of the people. Jesus is our Joshua and He has crossed through the river about 2000 years before bringing the rest of us with Him. The time is short. There will be no pre-trib rapture. Such is the deception what we have been forewarned off. Many will fall away because of this deceitful doctrine from the mind of a heretic in the 1830s. We are teetering on the edge. The Man of Sin will soon be revealed. The time is short. There will be a period of 3.5 years once the man of sin is revealed. There will be tribulation and persecution. God will cut this time short. By how much? We do not know. If He doesn’t cut it short, no flesh would have survived. For the sake of His Elect, He will have mercy. God has deigned that there will be some who are alive and remain until His Coming in the clouds. When He comes, there will be a shout, the voice of the Archangel, and there will be a loud trumpet. This will be the last trumpet. Once the trumpet sounds, the dead in Christ who have returned with Him will be changed and receive their immortal imperishable bodies and the will rise from the Earth. Then we are alive and remain will be changed and also caught up to meet the others and our Lord in the air. He will complete His descent from the clouds with all of us, now immortal and along with His angels and heavenly host. He will gather the nations for judgement. For us, His children, we shall not be judged because we have believed in His name, the name of Jesus Christ. Therefore, comfort one another with this blessed hope. The one who is cut off in the middle of the week is Messiah the Prince, the very Son of God!
@@robertbrown7470 is that all you’ve got? Normally, in discussion of biblical and theological topics, an appeal is made to scripture as the authoritative standard. You’ve done nothing of the sort. You’ve only issued your opinion without any basis. Let’s see if you believe in truth… In the Scriptures, we have a phrase, “cut off”, which it appears you are not intimately familiar with. Let’s see what Isaiah has to say in chapter 53: “For he was CUT OFF from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was punished.[b] 9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.” Isaiah has prophesied that the Messiah would be “cut off”. That is, He would be put to death. I know that with all of the Pre-Trib Rapture indoctrination, it is hard for many to read Daniel and understand that Jesus is Messiah the Prince. The fact is, only Satan could twist the Word to say the very opposite of what it says. Nevertheless, the PTR rapture teachers make an argument for part of this passage speaking of Jesus and then they turn around and use the same passage to say that it’s not Jesus! Who are the confused ones but the people who contradict themselves. How long was Jesus’s ministry? He preached the Gospel for just over three years. That’s half of a “seven”. You see, the word rendered “weeks” in Daniel is actually “sevens”. It is a basic fact of history that Jesus arrived on the shores of the Jordan River precisely sixty-nine “sevens” after the command was given to restore and rebuild the second temple. Jesus came as Messiah and was the son of the King of Heaven and Earth. The son of a king is rightly known as a Prince. We should not be surprised therefore when, at the very beginning of His ministry, we hear His Father’s audible voice declare Him to be His “beloved Son”. God publicly declaring Jesus to be Messiah…THE PRINCE. You may recall that one of His Divine names is “Prince of Peace”. Jesus Christ was indeed “cut off” (put to death) for the sins of His people and this was done in the half of the 70th week. You must pay much closer attention to Scripture than you do to errant “Bible teachers” who are not faithful to believe the Word. It is a fact that Jesus arrived at the END of the 69th week. His baptism marks the beginning of the 70th week. Daniel 9:26 says that “AFTER the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing.” AFTER the 62 sevens means AFTER THE 69th Seven… Just believe. What comes after? You can count, can’t you? The week AFTER the 69th is what??? Let’s say it together…”the week after the 69th week is the 70th.” There, that wasn’t so hard, was it? And what does Daniel say happens? “the ANNOINTED ONE is PUT TO DEATH…” Hmm…Who is “the Anointed One”?? Wait a moment, what does “Christ” mean? Could it be that Jesus is the Messiah? Could Jesus be “The ANNOINTED One (Christ)”? Well of course Jesus was the Messiah, The Annointed One who was killed in the middle of a seven year period. See there? Instead of simply being rebellious and trolling, we explained from Scripture as our authority. Your lack of faith in believing the words of Scripture does not invalidate the words and promises of God. Repent from your rebellion and believe the Word of God as it was given you for illumination. The Word of God is profitable for DOCTRINE (teaching) and for rebuke. You have been rebuked for your ignorance and unbelief. Be reconciled to the truth and place your faith in Jesus the Anointed Messiah who came and was cut off from the land of the living for your sake
@@KrisVComm I've already laid it out. Pretty simple to understand. If you can't follow it, I can't help you. Sorry... I see you subscribe to the Shotgun Scripture Teaching Method.
@@robertbrown7470 ah…you mean the method whereby you simply blurt out a statement like “messiah wasn’t cut off in the middle of the week”? Shotgun describes precisely the method of retort you engage in. I can understand how difficult it would be to actually think through and also use scripture in context to form an intelligent reply. Your method is really quite easier and more befitting laziness and argumentation without wisdom. Thanks for clarifying…not!
The decree to rebuild Jerusalem was given in the 20th year of Artaxerxes. This has been traditionally dated at 445 BC, because people have followed Ptolemy’s canon, which dates the start of Artaxerxes’ reign at the death of his father in 465 BC. However, the problem with Ptolemy is that he didn’t count the fact that sometimes a son began to rule before his father’s death. This is known as a “co-regency”. Persian kings had to appoint a successor before going to war in case they didn’t return. Artaxerxes was given the authority to rule when his father, Xerxes, appointed him to the throne in the 12th year of the rule of Xerxes. This was recorded in Egyptian hieroglyphics. In 485 BC, King Darius was required to name his successor before he went off to war. He declared Xerxes as his successor. Darius died in the same year. This would make 485 BC the first year of Xerxes. If 485 BC was the first year of Xerxes, then 473 BC would be the 12th year of Xerxes, and the first year of Artaxerxes. Since 473 BC was the first year of Artaxerxes, then 453 BC would be the 20th year of Artaxerxes. The correct date for the decree to rebuild the city of Jerusalem, therefore, is 453 BC. Daniel 9:25-26 states that the Messiah shall be “cut off”, but “not for himself”, after 69 weeks. If we count 69 “weeks” as 483 normal years, then the crucifixion of Christ would be in the year 30 AD. Jesus was born approximately 4 BC and started His ministry at about 30 years of age. He ministered for 3 years. He was crucified Wednesday, April 5, 30 AD the day before the Passover Sabbath on Thursday, April 6, 30 AD; age 33. He was in the grave 3 nights and 3 days, (Wed night, Thursday, Thursday night, Friday, Friday night, and Saturday) and the tomb was discovered empty early on the first day of the week, the morning following the weekly Saturday sabbath. The date of Christ’s crucifixion is therefore exactly 483 normal years from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem. If the first 69 sevens are exactly 483 years, it stands to reason that the last 7 is also 7 years. Revelation speaks of 1260 days of the two witnesses and a temple, and then speaks of 42 months where the “woman” flees and the Beast rules. Paul says the “man of sin” will exalt himself above all that is called God and sit in the temple to be worshipped as God. Revelation says that the Beast will demand the worship of the world. That certainly sounds like an abomination set up at the midpoint of the last 7 years. These guys are grasping at straws, symbolizing numbers, rearranging texts into aabb patterns, and misinterpreting scriptures to try to get around a straight reading of the Bible. Guys, you’re kicking against the ox goads.
Daniel 9:27 ... is speaking of the new covenant that Jesus Christ our promised Messiah confirms with many, for three and a half years of the seventieth week, (not as the unlearned, who give this covenant to the antichrist) from his anointing~baptism at the age of thirty, to his sacrifice and death, and resurrection when he was thirty three years of age, for the remission of sins. But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, [G1242] which was established upon better promises. {Hebrews 8:6} For this is the covenant [G1242] that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; *I will put my laws* into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: {Hebrews 8:10} For this is my blood of the new testament, [G1242] which is shed for many for the remission of sins. {Matthew 26:28} And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, [G1242] which is shed for many. {Mark 14:24} Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament [G1242] in my blood, which is shed for you. {Luke 22:20}
Daniel 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.” The "he" is not Jesus. It is the Anti-Christ. Tie this in with 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2 and it will make sense. On the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate. That is the Anti-Christ. Jesus talks about the middle of the week when the Anti-Christ, the abomination of desolation appears in the third temple in Jerusalem claiming to be God and cutting off the sacrafices and oblations of the Jewish people. They are still living under the Old Covenant and as Paul points out, that is God's plan. Like it or not.
@@robertbrown7470 Incorrect. That is a blasphemy. Seventy weeks are determined [divided from the 2,300 prophetic days = years] upon *thy people and upon thy holy city* ...to finish the transgression, and (Jn 19:30; Col 2:13-14; Is 53:12) ...to make an end of sins, and (Jn 1:29; 1Jn 3:5; Jn 5:14; Jn 8:11; Rom 6:6-7; 1 Cor 15:3; Heb 9:26-28; Heb 10:14) ...to make reconciliation for iniquity, and (Rom 5:10; 2 Cor 5:18-19; Col 1:20-22; Eph 2:14-16) ...to bring in everlasting righteousness, and (Matt 3:15; Rom 3:21-22; Rom 8:4; 2 Cor 5:21) ...to *seal up the vision and prophecy* and (Matt 3:13-17) ...to anoint the most Holy. (Jn 1:32-34; Mark 1:15; Acts 10:38; Luke 4:18; Is 61:1) {Daniel 9:24} < The context And he [the Messiah] shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK: and IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK (the seventieth) he [Christ] SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations (the continued temple sacrifices, after Christ one perfect sacrifice.) he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. ("Behold your house has been left unto you desolate.") {Daniel 9:27} 7 weeks + 62 weeks + *one week* = 70 weeks, to anoint the most Holy, and to seal up the vision and the prophecy. Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, *It was necessary* that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: (for there were three and a half years remaining grace for "thy people" of the final week.) but seeing ye put it from you, and *judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life* lo, we turn to the Gentiles. For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. {Acts 13:46-48} To fulfil the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until *the land had enjoyed her sabbaths* for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years. {2 Chronicles 36:21} For 490 years, equal to 70 sabbath rest for the land every seventh year, that Israel and Judah transgressed the law of God. This is why they received seventy years exiled in bondage in the land of Babylon. There was no gap in their seventy years in exil, and there is no gap in the 490 years of transgressing the law of God, and there most certainly was no gap unto the coming of the Messiah who did not come in a vacuum, but rather confirmed his covenant with many for there and a half years, and in the land of Israel's inheritance. The stoning of Steven is when probation closed on the covenant that God made with the their fathers, exactly three and a half years after Jesus Christ, our passover was sacrificed for us, and the gospel of the kingdom of heaven went out unto the Gentiles also.
@@robertbrown7470 Now of the things which we have spoken this is *the sum* We have such an high priest, (of the order of Melchizedek; chapter 7) who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty *in the heavens* A minister of *the sanctuary* and of the true tabernacle, *which the Lord pitched and not man* For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer. (His life; "no greater love"...) For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests [Levitical] that offer gifts according to the law: Who serve unto the example and *shadow* of *heavenly things* as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make *the tabernacle* for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to *the pattern* shewed to thee in the mount. *But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry* by how much also *he* is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. *For if that first covenant had been faultless then should no place have been sought for the second* For *finding fault with them* he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make *a new covenant* with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; *I will put my laws into their mind and write them in their hearts* and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: {Hebrews 8:1-10} (Jer 31:31-33)
I agree with you there. The timeline between the 69th and 70th Sevens is going to be about 2,000 years, give or take. And besides, if we understand essentially what Paul told us (really God or the Holy Spirit), this time frame is for the sake of the Gentiles until their full number comes in. It has nothing to do with 3 1/2 years.
This is a totally unproductive attempt to spiritualize and therefore rationalize away the Book of Revelation - something that has been done all throughout the history of the church. There is a reason that John writes, "Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near" (Rev 1:3). Despite that Daniel's 69 weeks works perfectly from the decree to restore Jerusalem to the arrival of the Messiah in Jerusalem, you go off on this plethora of assumed symbolic interpretations of other passages of scripture, in order to argue that the 70 weeks themselves are symbolic and not literal. Sorry, you have failed to prove your point. In another post, related to your assumptions that the Gog-Magog of Ezek 38/39, Armageddon, and second Gog-Magog of Revelation are THE SAME battle, you failed there to demonstrate that point. A simple, I recommend that you do this, analysis of each of those battles proves that they are separate and distinct, and not the same. Who are the leaders? Who are the participants? How were the dead bodies managed? What was the location of the battle? All different and cannot be rationalized as the same. We'll meet again at the rapture, just BEFORE the tribulation. Thank the Lord!
What does an understanding of the New Covenant do to the Pretrib Rapture doctrine? Since the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20, how is the New Covenant Church age going to end seven years before the Second Coming of Christ? Why would anyone think God is going back to the Old Covenant system now made “obsolete” by the New Covenant in Hebrews 8:13? We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it. The Capitol "C" Church, as we use the word today, is not found in the entire Book of Revelation. Individual church bodies in ancient Asia Minor are found. In Revelation 12:11 we find those under the blood of the Lamb. A person cannot be under the blood of the Lamb and not be a part of the New Covenant Church of Jesus Christ. Verse 12 of this passage proves at least part of the tribulation period is the wrath of Satan upon the people of God. Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time. "It may come as a surprise to most pre-Trib prophecy students that the post-Trib position (in its primitive form) is the oldest point of view." (The quotation above is from the book "Will You Escape The Tribulation? RAPTURE [Under Attack]", by Tim LaHaye, copyright 1998, Page 197.) Tim LaHaye was co-author of the “Left Behind” books and movies which have convinced millions of modern Christians that the Church age ends seven years before the Second Coming of Christ. Recently, Pastor Matt Furse of Mountain View Baptist Church in Custer, S.D. has written a book titled “Which One Is Right?’, which reveals the recent history of the pretrib rapture doctrine, and the fact it does not agree with what is written in the King James Bible. The gathering of the Church is described at the end of 1 Thess. Chapter 4, and the timing of the event is found in chapter 5. The word “But” in the first verse of chapter 5 connects the two chapters, and the words “we” and “sleep” in verse 10 of chapter 5 prove the two chapters are connected. The Greek words for “wrath” and “tribulation” are not the same word, as proven by the verse below. Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ. Watch the TH-cam video “Pretribulation Paradox” by former pretrib believer skydiver626. ==================================================================================================== Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order ) Christ returns one time in the future. However, there are several different visions of His return shown from different perspectives in the Book of Revelation. Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse. Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb. Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present? The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ. He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18. The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15. The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13. He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet? He comes on a horse in chapter 19. Chapter 20? Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1? (The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.) There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46. Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time? Are there wicked angels in the pit in Rev. 9:11? If the beast "ascends" from the pit in Rev. chapter 11, where was the beast before that time? Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. 2:4, and Jude in Jude 1:6, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness? Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner. Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book. The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
@@SpotterVideo "What does an understanding of the New Covenant do to the Pretrib Rapture doctrine?" Nothing. The New Covenant is an everlasting covenant to the individuals that fall under it. The Old Covenent was also an “everlasting covenant” for those that fell under it. Is the term “everlasting covenant” to mean for all of mankind for all time? No. There is an everlasting covenant for the Jews during “their time” and there is an everlasting covenant for Christians that applies during the “church age”. God never lies and never changes His mind (Numbers 23:19, Titus 1:2, Hebrews 6:18). Whatever agreement made between God and men is eternal, but that does not mean that God cannot orchestrate different covenants that are “everlasting” for different groups of people throughout the ages. When the angel Gabriel told Daniel there were “70 weeks proscribed for your people”, Gabriel was telling him that that was it for the Jews. The end. But the 70th week was distinct and separated from the first 69 weeks and is yet to happen. That week is the tribulation. The message of Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy is that the focus will be on the Jews up until the arrival of the Messiah and then during the seven year tribulation. Obviously, Gabriel could not specify that the church is removed because nothing was stated specifically about the church. It was a mystery to the Jews. The church is removed at the rapture - we can all agree to that. But it does not make sense to have the church present during the tribulation. That arrangement will have come to its conclusion. That is, the doors will be closed on the New Covenant - just prior to the tribulation. Note that the church age is distinctly different from the period during the tribulation. During the tribulation, 144,000 Jews are called to be witnesses for Christ (Revelation 7). They will be special and cannot be harmed (Revelation 14). They are called to preach the gospel because the church was removed. During the church age, God demands faith alone - and without it, God cannot be “pleased” (Hebrews 11:6). And, during the church age, God has removed any actions on His part that can be concretely shown that He exists - save for the manifestation of Him through the creation (Romans 1). This is unlike all other periods where God would regularly manifest His presence in tangible, overt, and supernatural ways. During the tribulation, God will once again overtly manifest His presence, first indirectly through the early judgments, and finally, directly in the later judgements. Because of the specificity of the Book of Revelation, there shall be no doubt that God is orchestrating the twenty-one judgments. They are exact fulfillments of His prophetic word and they are often supernatural. Therefore, how does “faith” factor in? It does not. Again, to emphasize, this is nothing like the church age. People will not “believe by faith”, but they will be forced to make life or death decisions for Christ. Because they will not be able to “buy or sell”, many will starve to death. Many others will be beheaded by order of the antichrist because they did not take the mark of the beast. The tribulation will be all about obedience, not primarily faith. It does not follow the New Covenant. The New Covenant concluded at the rapture which preceded the tribulation. Following the tribulation, Jesus, for a period of 1000 years, will establish rule “with an iron scepter” on the earth and directly and overtly in the presence of everyone. There will absolutely be no doubt as to who He is. Again, how does faith factor in? It does not. Obviously, the so-called New Covenant doesn’t apply during the millennium either. Conclusion: the so-called New Covenant ended just prior to the tribulation. Tim LaHaye was in error when he said, "It may come as a surprise to most pre-Trib prophecy students that the post-Trib position (in its primitive form) is the oldest point of view." He was wrong. The very first indications of when the rapture would take place is principally the reason that Paul wrote 2 Thessalonians in 52 AD. The people there thought that they had been “left behind”, that they had missed the rapture. And Paul assured them that, had they been left behind, several things would have taken place, such as the Holy Spirit would no longer be “restraining”, the rebellion would have been going on, and the man of sin would have been revealed. None of which had taken place in 52 AD.
@@FeetMusical Based on Hebrews 9:15, the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26 cannot be separated from the New Covenant fulfilled by His blood at Calvary. Is the New Covenant found in Daniel chapter 9? Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores about the time of the Civil War. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate. Daniel 9:27 And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. (a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. (See Rom. 1:16, Matt. 10:5-7, Acts 10:36-38) (b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection. (See Heb. 9:15) (c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them. (See Matt. 23:38, Matt. 24:1-2, Luke 19:41-44) ------------------------------------------------ During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary? Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.) Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin. Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD. Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”. Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below? Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV) Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews? We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below. Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek. Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled. Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below? Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans. Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below? Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16. Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels? In Galatians 1:14-18 Paul reveals he did not go up to see Peter until about 3 years after his conversion. During that time the Gospel continued to be taken almost exclusively to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles. Watch the TH-cam video on Daniel 9 by Dr. Kelly Varner.
@@AustinGonder The "nice thing" is that it will happen when it happens. And believers will rejoice whether they believed in the pre-trib or post-trib version of prophetic events. However, the thought process that "spiritualizes" the Book of Revelation is way off the mark and totally misses the point of Revelation 1:3.
This “little boys club” need to read one of the leading Hebrew messianic scholars, Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum. The book is called, Israelology, the missing link in systematic theology. He’ll teach them a few truths on Hebrew language and grammar and also a few dispensational truths, while at it. What a bunch of ignoramuses. Lord help these people to see Your Word for all its richness and worth!
@@StudioEnergizerMV Isn’t it what people who are watching this video are doing? The guys in the video are sharing their view on a particular topic. I’d say doing it very passionately. People are listening to them and learning from them. That’s how people’s understanding is being shaped. Because I strongly disagree with what’s being taught, I’ve offered an alternative on the same topic.
I try to be nice, but it's hard. Please Holy Spirit give me wisdom. 2 doesn't mean 2 unless it fits with our ideology. The scriptural gymnastics that have to be done to make this work is incredible. Dr. Chuck Misslers teaching on this subject is fantastic.
Why do you copy and paste the same condescending reply on all their videos on this topic? You are a deceiver pushing your filth, why else would you take the time to spam their videos. It is clear their interpretation is correct and there is no 2000 year pause between week 69 and 70. The dumbest thing anyone ever imagined.
For the rest of our series on Revelation and eschatology, see here:
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You guys have the most straightforward interpretation of the scriptures i have heard. It makes sense.
I appreciate you guys are willing to really put yourselves out there with so much of your own personal emotions and feelings about events of the end times! I don't always agree but totally respect your descriptions! As believers we don't have to always agree! We can stand together still with much respect for each other and not allow the world/the devil to divide us! Amen!!
Once again you hit the nail on the head
Sycamore Reformed Baptist did the best study over ever heard on this including year 70 being the jubilee of Jubikees. He posted it 8 months ago. Great Video guys!
If only every church had your leadership with such passion, and seeking of truth and revelation from God's Word! I am questioning two assertions made :
1) that the Messiah and the prince of verse 26 are the same person, (including that "his people" are the Hebrews themselves), and
2) that destruction will be poured out on a "desolator" or "one who desolates" in the second half of Dan 9:27, because that one who desolates is the Messiah Himself.
I agree with you that Daniel 26 and 27 are in two halves - except the first half *of each* is about the Messiah and what He did, and the second half *of each* is about what happened to the people (the Hebrews) and the Holy City, because of what they did in response to their Messiah.
Question #1 is, how can the Messiah come and die in the first half of v26, but also be the same "prince who is to come" in the second half, (that is about the Hebrews and the Holy City only)? He already came and died, so He can't still be waiting to appear.
In the KJV of v25, Messiah the Prince correctly has an upper case P. In v26, the "prince" who is to come correctly has a lower case "p". Not the same princes.
(The NASB also differentiates the two with an upper and lower case "p", and the ESV2011 differentiates by showing v25 as the annointed one, and the prince in v26 is a lower case prince, also not the same princes).
Jesus confirms in Luke 19:43-44, that *their enemies will surround them* and lay them flat. The people described in v26 are not the Hebrews themselves, or the Messiah, but, as Jesus said, their enemies, the Romans and Titus.
Verse 27, not 26, gives the explanation as to who ordered the desolation of the Temple and City - the Messiah. (Who literally performed the desolation in v26 was Titus and solidiers).
Below is the KJV of Dan 9:27 showing the continuity of all three instances of "he" being the Messiah:
And *he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:*
and in the midst of the week
*he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,*
and for the overspreading of abominations
*he shall make [it] desolate* ...
The last portion of v27, reveals both the length of the desolation upon the nation of Israel.
*even until the consummation,*
and, the *desolate* are the Hebrew people, the Temple, and the City, who will remain that way until the consummation of the world, in the vacating of their covenant, the end of all Levitical ceremonial practices, and the scorn and humiliation before the world for condemning and rejecting their Messiah. (Aren't the small remant still taunted and ridiculed until this day)?
*and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate*
I am thoroughly convinced the following three additions in the NASB and ESV2011 are a complete fabrication to add an antiChrist figure that isn't there, to force fit their eschatology:
... [ *will come] one who makes desolate*
*the desolator*
*the one who makes desolate*
These translations would have us believe some man appears out of nowhere to have destruction poured out on him. The "one who makes desolate" or "the desolator" - IS THE MESSIAH, so that can't be a correct interpretation.
Correct: KJV
The Messiah:
1st Half: (Dan 9:27) And *he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:* and in the midst of the week *he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,* and for the overspreading of abominations *he shall make it desolate*
The Hebrews and the City:
2nd half: *even until the consummation,* and that determined shall be poured upon *the desolate.*
Correct: Updated King James
The Messiah:
1st half: (Dan 9:27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate,
The Hebrews and the City:
2nd half: even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Incorrect: NASB
1st half: (Dan 9:27) “And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering;
2nd half: and on the wing of abominations *[will come] one* who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on *the one who makes desolate.* ”
Incorrect: ESV2011
1st half: (Dan 9:27) And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering.
2nd half: And on the wing of abominations *shall come one* who makes desolate, until the decreed end is *poured out on the desolator.* ”
Just looking into this and interested to understand your interpretation and questions. one thing strikes me as odd however in that you state that various capital letters are correct. my understanding is that there are no capital letters in hebrew. for this reason, it seems that the KJV and others are not fully translations, but are at least party theological commentaries. I hope this observation makes sense and would be interested in your ideas following your assertion that the capital and lower case letters are correct.
Is the New Covenant found in Daniel chapter 9?
Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible?
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Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.
Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.
(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.
(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.
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During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary?
Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.)
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”.
Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below?
Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV)
Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews?
We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below.
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled.
Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below?
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans.
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'
Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below?
Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16.
Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels?
In Galatians 1:14-18 Paul reveals he did not go up to see Peter until about 3 years after his conversion. During that time the Gospel continued to be taken almost exclusively to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles.
Read the recent book "The 70th Week of Daniel 9 DECODED" by David Wilcoxson for confirmation of the above.
Here's what I know for sure. God has put scripture together in a way to blind his enemies and enlighten those of his own household, his children. Those who LOVE THE TRUTH will either figure it out or atleast will find peace in an interpretation that is biblical in so far as can be exegited. God is so wise to cloud and reveal at the same time according to his will.
I think the tribulation is 3-1/2 years and not 7.
The following proves you might be correct.
Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order )
Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse.
Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb.
Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present?
The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ.
He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18.
The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15.
The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13.
He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet?
He comes on a horse in chapter 19.
Chapter 20?
Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1?
(The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.)
There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46.
Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time?
Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner.
Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book.
The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
The great tribulation is 3.5 years long yes Revelation 11:2,3 and Daniel 12:7
From what scriptures do you gather it being 3.5 years, or any specific timeframe? The 3.5 Great Tribulation is extrapolated from Daniel 9 70th week incorrect interpretation, making the week at the end as the tribulation. This video goes over that is an incorrect understanding, so any timeframe is wrong.
It seems Jesus does return during a troubling time and dishes out the punishment, that all hide under the rocks. From scriptures, it is impossible to gather some kind of timeframe.
The 7 years comes from the deceivers who claim Daniel’s 70th Week is in the future.
@@michaelseay9783deceivers??? So some one else’s interpretation or understanding than yours makes them a deceiver? Using that logic why doesn’t that make YOU a deceiver?
If Daniel, when he read Jeremiah, realized that the 70 years prophesied were nearly up, how did he know that if he couldn't rely on the captivity of Judah being LITERALLY 70 years? Whatever the starting date of the 70 sevens (which we don't know exactly, but God does--as we can't rely on written history), the Messiah fulfilled the prophecy exactly 483 years from the starting date.
“When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near." To equate this to the Abomination of Desolation (because the English word desolation is used) is really stretching it.
Does the following verse from Matt 24 says anythhing about "when you see armies"?
Mt 24:15 So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ as described by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand), 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. (Yes, Luke is speaking about 70 A.D. when he speaks of armies, but Matt is not when it talks about the Abom. of Des. of the future. Luke never even mentions the Abom of Desolation.)
Jesus in Matt is talking about a destestible idol being set up and the AntiChrist taking a seat in the Holy Place and declaring himself to be God. An abomination.
The abomination of Desolation is the sign of the great tribulation.. "For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time..." He meant when you see the Abom of Des, then great Tribulation.
Yes we do know. It was in 457 B.C.
Indeed. Order to rebuild the temple by Artizerksies in 457bc
Brothers, how then do you interpret Ezekiel 42???
70 × 7 is also tells Peter tied together
Yes, I would have to agree with you on your understanding of 3 and 1/2 years. I heard it a long time ago explained that way by brother Harold Camping. From the sacrifice to the consummation. But at the same time I disagree with your emphasis on these interpretations as if to have any significance for the jewish people and what happened to them in the past. It's a new covenant .
Could we please get on with it?
Worth its weight in gold. These studies are.
Seventy weeks are determined upon *thy people and upon thy holy city*
...to finish the transgression, and
(Jn 1:29; 1 Jn 3:5; Is 53:12)
...to make an end of sins, and
(1 Cor 15:3; Col 1:19-20; Heb 9:26-28)
...to make reconciliation for iniquity, and
(Rom 5:10; 2 Cor 5:18; Col 1:20-22; Eph 2:14-16)
...to bring in everlasting righteousness, and
(Matt 3:15; Rom 3:21-22; Rom 8:4; 2 Cor 5:21)
...to seal up the vision and prophecy, and
(Jn 19:30; Luke 24:25-27; Rev 19:10)
...to anoint the most Holy.
(Is 61:1; Mark 1:15; Luke 4:18; Heb 9:8)
{Daniel 9:24} < The context
And he [the Messiah] shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK: and IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK (the seventieth) he [Christ] SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations (the continued temple sacrifices, after Christ one perfect sacrifice.) he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. ("Behold your house has been left unto you desolate.")
{Daniel 9:27}
7 weeks + 62 weeks + *one week* = 70 weeks, to anoint the most Holy, and to seal up the vision and the prophecy.
Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, *It was necessary* that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: (for there were three and a half years remaining grace for "thy people" of the final week.) but seeing ye put it from you, and *judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life* lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
{Acts 13:46-48}
To fulfil the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until *the land had enjoyed her sabbaths* for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years.
{2 Chronicles 36:21}
For 490 years, equal to 70 sabbath rest for the land every seventh year, that Israel and Judah transgressed the law of God.
This is why they received seventy years exiled in bondage in the land of Babylon.
There was no gap in their seventy years in exil, and there is no gap in the 490 years of transgressing the law of God, and there most certainly was no gap unto the coming of the Messiah who did not come in a vacuum, but rather confirmed his covenant with many for there and a half years, and in the land of Israel's inheritance.
The stoning of Steven is when probation closed on the covenant that God made with the their fathers, exactly three and a half years after Jesus Christ, our passover was sacrificed for us, and the gospel of the kingdom of heaven went out unto the Gentiles also.
Very well put, thank you.
@@roseschmidt2478
You're very welcome.
The following proves you are correct.
Based on Hebrews 9:15, the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26 cannot be separated from the New Covenant fulfilled by His blood at Calvary.
Is the New Covenant found in Daniel chapter 9?
Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores about the time of the Civil War. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible?
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Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.
Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. (See Rom. 1:16, Matt. 10:5-7, Acts 10:36-38)
(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection. (See Heb. 9:15)
(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.
(See Matt. 23:38, Matt. 24:1-2, Luke 19:41-44)
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During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary?
Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.)
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”.
Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below?
Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV)
Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews?
We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below.
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled.
Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below?
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans.
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'
Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below?
Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16.
Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels?
In Galatians 1:14-18 Paul reveals he did not go up to see Peter until about 3 years after his conversion. During that time the Gospel continued to be taken almost exclusively to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles.
Watch the TH-cam video on Daniel 9 by Dr. Kelly Varner.
@@SpotterVideo the passages in Act 10 that you quote were spoken to Cornelius and family and friends (all God fearing gentiles) by Peter after shown and taught in the vision that he was to call no human unclean and that God shows no partiality and is no respecter of persons Acts 10:28,34,35.
From vs 36 it is stated that the gathered gentiles to whom Peter was speaking knew "the contents of the message which God had sent to Israel, announcing the good news of peace by Jesus Christ, Who is Lord of all."
And in Acts 15 Paul and Barnabas went to Jerusalem to tell the brethren about the gentile conversions. Paul was converted in chapter 9 of Acts. Acts 9:38-29 says paraphrasing, He went in and among them at Jerusalem until the Hellenistic Jews were seeking to slay him
I do not know the timeline of these events. I think Acts 15: 14-18 are very significant as well quoting Amos 9: 11-12.
As I understand it, from different commentaries and Bibles, Acts was written prob by Luke, a gentile between 61-63 AD and Luke's gospel between 58-70 AD and Paul's letter to Galatians was written 49-55 AD.
Do you have further information?
Hey brother, dumb question but I had replied to a post you made on Warren's channel regarding the rapture and then your post was gone. Did you delete it or was it Warren?
It is out of step to change verse 26 & 27 to fit your theology. You are not consistent with correct biblical interpretation.
Is the New Covenant found in Daniel chapter 9?
Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible?
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Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.
Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles.
(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection.
(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.
------------------------------------------------
During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary?
Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.)
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”.
Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below?
Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV)
Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews?
We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below.
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled.
Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below?
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans.
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'
Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below?
Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16.
Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels?
In Galatians 1:14-18 Paul reveals he did not go up to see Peter until about 3 years after his conversion. During that time the Gospel continued to be taken almost exclusively to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles.
Read the recent book "The 70th Week of Daniel 9 DECODED" by David Wilcoxson for confirmation of the above.
Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28?
Yes and No. Yes, Gabriel revealed the exact time from start to finish for when the Messiah, Jesus, would be cut-off.
God revealed the New Covenant after Jesus appeared and sacraficed Himself for our sake.
Seems like the problem you are having is that you don't like how God is handling things? Sounds like a Daniel 4:35 problem. All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing;
He does according to His will in the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth. No one can restrain His hand or say to Him, “What have You done?”
It's not tied up in a nice neat bow and presented in a way that you would like to have it presented. But you're not God, are you?
@@robertbrown7470 God revealed the New Covenant in Jeremiah 31:31-34. Daniel was reading from the Book of Jeremiah when the angel Gabriel appeared.
Based on Hebrews 12:22-24, the Messiah's death in Daneil 9:26 cannot be separated from the New Covenant fulfilled by His blood at Calvary. See the words "church" and "new covenant" and "Mount Sion" and "Jesus" and "blood" in the passage below.
Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
"The 7 should not be separated from the 62" You're right. Neither should the 70th be separated from 69 preceding. Date for decree is 457 B. C. See Walter Martin sermon on tribulation affirming historic premill. He references archealogical evidence settling date of Artaxerxes decree in 457 B. C. Also see MLJTrust, that is Martin Lloyd Jones on Daniel 9 and 70 weeks. The text says until Messiah, the prince. Moschiach means annointed. Acts tells us Jesus was annointed with Holy Ghost and with power at His baptism. He said when He came to Nazareth, that the Lord had annointed Him. Jesus baptism happened exactly 483 years from 457 and arguably where the gospels place His showing forth to Israel, the 15th year of Tiberius, approximately 27 A.D. This fits Jesus birth at about 4 B. C also.. Herod died in 2 B. C., so has to be around 4 B. C. Then at 30 years of age, again, we set Jesus' baptism around 27 A D. Then, note, when Jesus goes forth to preach, the first thing basically preached......"the time is fulfilled". What time? The 62 weeks (built on top of the first 7) leading to Christ's annointing. Yes, it is after that time was fulfilled that He was cut off, but more particularly, in the middle of the 70th week, He caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease. Ending the jewish economy of sacrifices, etc, by His cross. For one week He was confirming the covenant in Himself, bringing people to faith in Him, first in His own ministry, and then for the second half of the 70th week through the disciples, however, after their initial official rejection, in the kangaroo trial of Christ, shortly thereafter, they would seal that probably through the official rejection of Christ in His servants at the stoning of Stephen by the Sanhedrin. This brought an end to their national probation. That's what 490 stands for, the end of opportunity; the closing of the door of mercy. The result of the rejection, Jesus declaration, making their temple desolate, "your house (no my Father's anymore) is left unto you desolate". Remember the first usage of 490 in Genesis. A declaration of unrelenting depravity and rebellion....the committing of an unpardonable sin, a sin that will never be repented of. See also Heb. 6. Sorry, Jesus references, the 490 in discussion of extent of forgiveness, for that very purpose, to indicate the limitations of mercy for those who harden their hearts and reject the Divine Gospel. There is an end to forgiveness....when the person no longer can or will repent.....Judas crossed that line. The nation of the Jews crossed that line during the 70th week, by rejecting Christ and the New Covenant in HIs blood, which He confirmed with many at that time. Thus the whole 70th week passed in immediate order from the first 69. There is no and can be no gap. The destruction of the desolate people and temple does not and is not expressly said to occur during the 70 weeks. It is enough to know that the destruction will fall on the temple and nation made desolate,(empty of or disconnected from God), although it come sometime later, in 70 A. D. Daniel's real people are those who accept the Holy Covenant.(as at the close of Daniel, all those found written in the book.) Those whose identification is with the sanctuary whose Most Holy was annointed at the true Pentecost, and who themselves, like the Hebrews of Old were sprinkled by the Holy Ghost at the original sanctuary's inaugaration, and extending to those who should believe on Christ through their testimony.
Your placement of the 3 1/2 years is generally good, but I think should be seen to be same as 70 weeks in this: days stand for years. It is not the whole of the Christian era, but falls within it. When you approach the mountains and you begin to go through them, you look and some mountains fall behind you and some which seemed closer together from the distance, now may still stand ahead of you on your journey......this is historicism. As you keep walking through history, you find the landmarks, the waymarks, you pass them and yet some lay ahead. The text, giving us a view of high points in the future from John, makes the mountain of the 3 1/2 and the ascension look close together, but there is no grammatical insistence on codating them together. The 3 1/2 years are the persecution by the so called "holy roman empire", the little horn of Dan. 7. This begins after breakup/division of Roman Empire into tribes of Western Europe. Little Horn removes some of those tribes in rising. Then little horn persecutes for 42 months or same as 3 1/2 years. These interpreted as days for years, come to 1260 years. Cannot begin until the secular roman empire restrainer is taken out of the way/removed. 2 Thess. 2, the man of sin, develops out of the original apostasy that was already beginning in Paul's day through the mystery of iniquity. The man of sin, is corrupted Christianity, therefore given same moniker to Judas, Son of Perdition. Note also, John identifies antichrists as those who "go out from us"; apostate Christianity. Antichrist sits in the temple of God, regularly identified as the church in Pauline writings. You point this out in your two witnesses study, I think. BTW, the 3 1/2 is alluded to in the 7 churches. Jezebel the apostate woman, who controlled the state to persecute Elijah. And there was no rain, the Scriptures being so hindered at that time as to make impossible the latter rain refreshing and word of God cleansing of the church, for her presentation to Christ. This Jezebel story which contains in it the 3 1/2 years is referenced particularly in the middle of the 7 churches. Baptists, and I might suggest, we SDAs are the outgrowth of movements to restore/bring forward the original Biblical faith represented under later churches after Thyatira, after the many centuries of darkness and "no rain".
The Roman Empire doesn't fall till like 476 A.D. Then the man of sin can be revealed. In 508 secular arms stand up for the Papacy, who sits in the "temple of God", the church, claiming prerogatives of God. In 538, the Ostrogoths are driven from Rome, and the new head of the empire is finally established there, and having a mouth speaking blasphemous things. Is it any wonder that exactly 1260 years later, Napoleon's general Berthier arrests the pope, who shortly thereafter dies in captivity? And shortly after the tribulation "of those days", the greatest meteor shower the world has ever known occurs, the great Leonids meteor shower of 1833, stars falling "like a fig tree, casting forth its untimely figs". Notes of interest from your historicist friend. Think about it. Selah. Sincerely wising you the best of God's blessings.
One more thing: Barnes Notes. Barnes is excellent on this passage, only imho misses a few things.
Brother, where do you get these 3 1/2 years to become more than 2000 years? Brother, you can sincerely believe in what you say ; with all due respect and love for you, I want to let you know that you are sincerely wrong about the last part of this prophecy. A time prophecy can not be defined by two different methods . You are wrong. You are already defined "a day for a year" Ezekiel 4:5,6; Numbers14:34, Luke 13:32.33.
May the Lord be with you. Please be very careful not to mislead anyone by adding subtracting anything to and from he scripture Revelation 22:18,19.
70 weeks equals 490 years. The stoning of Stephen was the end of probation for the Jews. Day equals a year (Numbers 14:34, Ezekiel 4:6).
I've heard about that idea of Stephen's death being the end of the 70 sevens. How do people figure Stephen's death ends the 70 weeks (490 years) ???
@@ronniewright6639 The decree to rebuild Jerusalem was given in 457 BC (Daniel 9:24, Ezra 7:11-12). this is the starting point of both the 7 X70 and the 2300 day
prophecies (Daniel 8:14). A day equals a year in Bible prophecy (Ezekiel 4:6, Numbers 14:34). 34 AD was the stoning of Stephen and 1844 AD was the end of the longest prophecy in the BIble.
@@arnoldthorstenson1374 .. Ok, I understand.. thanks
When you multiply everything out, and take the following into account...
#1 It is 69 weeks until the messiah is "cut off"
#2 each week is a group of seven years
#3 A prophetic year in the Bible ( figured out from Genesis) is 360 days
#4 Our year is 365 days
#5 along the time period there are 16 leap years so add 16 additional days #6 1 B.C to 1 A.D. is only one year , not two
#7 The 70 weeks start from the call to rebuild Jerusalem by Artaxerxes (on March 15 445 B.C. as known from extra biblical history)
You end up with the 69th week ending at April 6th , 32 A.D. The time Christians celebrate Resurrection day ( Easter for pagans , from the word Ishtar)
Now look at the account in Luke of Jesus triumphal entry...what did he say " If you, even you had known what day this is, and what makes for peace..."
The seventieth week is of course the Tribulation.
@@markanthony3275 #1 Messiah was cut off in the middle of the 69 weeks. #2 true. #3 Prophetic year is 360 years (Numbers 14:34, Ezekiel 46). #4 True. #5 True #6 1 BC, 0, 1 AD. If you add the zero you would get 2 years, count them. #7 The decree to rebuild Jeruslem, spoken if by the angel to Daniel, was given in 457 BC (see Daniel 9:25, Ezra 7:11-12). This is the starting date of the 2300 day/year prophecy. The stoning of Stephen was in 34 AD. the time of Jacobs trouble will be the start
of the 7 last plagues. Jacob will be saved out of it. God's saints will be hear for the 7 last plagues. The dead in Christ will rise first and then those saints on earth will
meet Jesus in the air. No 7 year tribulation and no second chances.
For his second coming not theory but to know to compute Daniel 9=27
Daniel 12=7
Rev, 11=2.3
Daniel 12=11.12
To really make sense of it 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2 must be taken into account. It is jam packed with revelations.
At 11:57, the video states that the 490 years (or 70, 7s) does not have to be 100% literal. I have recenlty seen others state this view
What makes this even more intriguing to me is the person/group believing this ends up shaving off years wherever they see fit in order to form their own version of Daniel's prophecy.
How is this possible to do and be taken seriously about whatever interpretation follows?
Is it okay if Jesus did not spend a literal 3 days and nights in the grave as he said? Jonah, too? Was his time in the fish maybe 2 days? What about when Moses spent 40 days on the mountain or Jesus tempted for 40 days? Those were not 40 literal days, but maybe 30?
But then these people/groups go on to relate this prophecy with 42 months, 3 1/2 years, and other time periods. They choose to take the literal mraning of those times.
They ignore the literal meaning of the time period in one part of this prophecy, while adhering to another time period at the end of the same prophecy. So they end up approximating the times stated in order to fit their own conclusion they have come up with.
Come on, now. I had to stop the video at 12:04 (the time they just got done reading the passage, after their introduction, and were starting to explain) because they immediately showed they weren't trying to find the truth of scripture, but rather going to try to make scripture fit their own version of the truth.
Bad teaching and deceptive to your audience.
It is literal. The prophecy of the 69 Sevens of Years tells us when the Messiah would be cut-off and it coincides with the timeframe we know as Christians, probably to the exact day if we are smart enough to calculate it, but within a couple years for most of us is good enough. The gap between the 69th Seven and the 70th Seven is not a theory, it is a reality and we can see it now in the year 2024, nearly 2,000 years later. We can even understand how the entire world can rejoice and send gifts to one another when the Two Witnesses are killed and their dead bodies like in the streets of Jerusalem. That could not be seen as possible until roughly the 1960's. Just for an illustration.
Appealing to the butchering of Daniel 9:25 by the ESV is an atrocious decision but ty for pointing out how poorly they translated that verse.
"until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him." This occurs to the prince in verse 26 so therefore it can't be messiah Jesus as that prince.
The explanation for the second half of the tribulation being the entire church age seems really outlandish, respectfully.
Or Jesus is crucified in the middle of the last week which puts an end to sacrifice (even though the Temple will stand for another 40 years). At the temple (or Temple Mount area or Moriah) He will set up the abomination that causes desolation. What if the abomination is the rejection of the Messiah and asking for Him to be crucified and that somewhere on the Temple Mount (Fort Antonio) the abomination of murdering God's son is done at the request of "his people". Thus the desolation doesn't have to occur during the week - the abomination occurs. The desolation occurs 40 years later with the destruction of the Temple. What is more abominable than rejecting Christ after witnessing his miracles and killing the Son of God (although John 10 - He laid down His life). Therefore the end that is decreed on Him is the crucifixion and the last 3 1/2 years goes to the stoning of Stephen and the movement of many nations joining the church which initially is all converted Jews (as we joined the one flock in John 10) and we were grafted into the Olive Tree (Romans 11). So that Christians joined Israel (the Jews that converted).
However, love your series and the time you put into this, and I haven't seen anyone think the abomination is the crucifixion of Christ so my thought is probably wrong, but what is more abominable then that, even though the result is salvation for us and the greatest blessing ever.
Daniel 9=27 this is symbololic for you )
Daniel 12=7
And Rev, 11=2.3
This is not sybolic
But to be compute
If you did know to compute You are a part of mat,13=11
If you know how to compute you must Read Jeremiah 33=3
Those who are surved Daniel 12=11.13
Daniel 9=27
Daniel 12=7
And of this
Rev, 11=2
This 42 month in war
Out side the court of the third temple in Israel because the antie Christ sit in third temple claim himself as a God
2 tess 2=4
69 weeks to the day were literal but the last week totally isnt. Completely symbolic.
You’ll forgive my ignorance but, I don’t believe Cyrus was the one who issued the command. It was Artaxerxes during the time of Ezra. If you carefully consider the wording in Daniel, it pertains to a command to restore and rebuild the temple. This can be found in Nehemiah. Furthermore, from the time the command was given, we have a period of 483 years which brings us to the banks of the Jordan River and the baptism of Jesus. Jesus was declared to be God’s Son. Hence, he is announced as a prince.
He is Messiah the Prince who came to put an end to transgression and to make an end of sin and to complete all prophecy.
His ministry lasted for 3.5 years (1/2 seven) and then He was cut off, just as Isaiah and David say. He was not cut off for Himself.
Thus, 69 sevens brings us from the decree of Artaxerxes to the beginning of Jesus’s ministry. The first half of the 70th seven has been fulfilled.
What remains is the final half-week (1260 days, time times and half a time, 42 months, etc) which will begin to tick off once the man of lawlessness is revealed.
Meanwhile, we are in the period which extends from the cross to the man of sin. This is what some refer to as the Millennium.
Don’t let the 1000yrs language fool you. This is the view in Heaven where the saints who have died have gone to be with Jesus and are worshiping Him even now.
Don’t you recall that a day with the Lord is as a 1000 years?
Don’t you remember that on the 7th day The Lord rested from all His works?
That “day” is the 1000yrs where He dwells. We who believe enter that rest along with Him.
When Joshua entered the promised land, He was commanded to go “about 2000 paces” before the rest of the people.
Jesus is our Joshua and He has crossed through the river about 2000 years before bringing the rest of us with Him.
The time is short. There will be no pre-trib rapture. Such is the deception what we have been forewarned off. Many will fall away because of this deceitful doctrine from the mind of a heretic in the 1830s.
We are teetering on the edge. The Man of Sin will soon be revealed. The time is short.
There will be a period of 3.5 years once the man of sin is revealed. There will be tribulation and persecution. God will cut this time short. By how much? We do not know. If He doesn’t cut it short, no flesh would have survived. For the sake of His Elect, He will have mercy.
God has deigned that there will be some who are alive and remain until His Coming in the clouds.
When He comes, there will be a shout, the voice of the Archangel, and there will be a loud trumpet. This will be the last trumpet. Once the trumpet sounds, the dead in Christ who have returned with Him will be changed and receive their immortal imperishable bodies and the will rise from the Earth. Then we are alive and remain will be changed and also caught up to meet the others and our Lord in the air. He will complete His descent from the clouds with all of us, now immortal and along with His angels and heavenly host.
He will gather the nations for judgement. For us, His children, we shall not be judged because we have believed in His name, the name of Jesus Christ. Therefore, comfort one another with this blessed hope.
The one who is cut off in the middle of the week is Messiah the Prince, the very Son of God!
The Messiah was not cut-off in the "middle of the week."
@@robertbrown7470 is that all you’ve got? Normally, in discussion of biblical and theological topics, an appeal is made to scripture as the authoritative standard.
You’ve done nothing of the sort. You’ve only issued your opinion without any basis.
Let’s see if you believe in truth…
In the Scriptures, we have a phrase, “cut off”, which it appears you are not intimately familiar with. Let’s see what Isaiah has to say in chapter 53:
“For he was CUT OFF from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.[b]
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.”
Isaiah has prophesied that the Messiah would be “cut off”. That is, He would be put to death.
I know that with all of the Pre-Trib Rapture indoctrination, it is hard for many to read Daniel and understand that Jesus is Messiah the Prince. The fact is, only Satan could twist the Word to say the very opposite of what it says. Nevertheless, the PTR rapture teachers make an argument for part of this passage speaking of Jesus and then they turn around and use the same passage to say that it’s not Jesus! Who are the confused ones but the people who contradict themselves.
How long was Jesus’s ministry? He preached the Gospel for just over three years. That’s half of a “seven”. You see, the word rendered “weeks” in Daniel is actually “sevens”.
It is a basic fact of history that Jesus arrived on the shores of the Jordan River precisely sixty-nine “sevens” after the command was given to restore and rebuild the second temple.
Jesus came as Messiah and was the son of the King of Heaven and Earth. The son of a king is rightly known as a Prince. We should not be surprised therefore when, at the very beginning of His ministry, we hear His Father’s audible voice declare Him to be His “beloved Son”. God publicly declaring Jesus to be Messiah…THE PRINCE.
You may recall that one of His Divine names is “Prince of Peace”.
Jesus Christ was indeed “cut off” (put to death) for the sins of His people and this was done in the half of the 70th week.
You must pay much closer attention to Scripture than you do to errant “Bible teachers” who are not faithful to believe the Word. It is a fact that Jesus arrived at the END of the 69th week. His baptism marks the beginning of the 70th week.
Daniel 9:26 says that “AFTER the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing.”
AFTER the 62 sevens means AFTER THE 69th Seven…
Just believe. What comes after? You can count, can’t you? The week AFTER the 69th is what??? Let’s say it together…”the week after the 69th week is the 70th.” There, that wasn’t so hard, was it?
And what does Daniel say happens? “the ANNOINTED ONE is PUT TO DEATH…”
Hmm…Who is “the Anointed One”?? Wait a moment, what does “Christ” mean? Could it be that Jesus is the Messiah? Could Jesus be “The ANNOINTED One (Christ)”?
Well of course Jesus was the Messiah, The Annointed One who was killed in the middle of a seven year period.
See there? Instead of simply being rebellious and trolling, we explained from Scripture as our authority.
Your lack of faith in believing the words of Scripture does not invalidate the words and promises of God.
Repent from your rebellion and believe the Word of God as it was given you for illumination.
The Word of God is profitable for DOCTRINE (teaching) and for rebuke. You have been rebuked for your ignorance and unbelief. Be reconciled to the truth and place your faith in Jesus the Anointed Messiah who came and was cut off from the land of the living for your sake
@@KrisVComm I've already laid it out. Pretty simple to understand. If you can't follow it, I can't help you. Sorry...
I see you subscribe to the Shotgun Scripture Teaching Method.
@@robertbrown7470 you don’t see anything except TH-cam comments which by their very nature are abbreviated expressions. You know nothing
@@robertbrown7470 ah…you mean the method whereby you simply blurt out a statement like “messiah wasn’t cut off in the middle of the week”?
Shotgun describes precisely the method of retort you engage in.
I can understand how difficult it would be to actually think through and also use scripture in context to form an intelligent reply. Your method is really quite easier and more befitting laziness and argumentation without wisdom.
Thanks for clarifying…not!
The decree to rebuild Jerusalem was given in the 20th year of Artaxerxes. This has been traditionally dated at 445 BC, because people have followed Ptolemy’s canon, which dates the start of Artaxerxes’ reign at the death of his father in 465 BC. However, the problem with Ptolemy is that he didn’t count the fact that sometimes a son began to rule before his father’s death. This is known as a “co-regency”. Persian kings had to appoint a successor before going to war in case they didn’t return. Artaxerxes was given the authority to rule when his father, Xerxes, appointed him to the throne in the 12th year of the rule of Xerxes. This was recorded in Egyptian hieroglyphics.
In 485 BC, King Darius was required to name his successor before he went off to war. He declared Xerxes as his successor. Darius died in the same year. This would make 485 BC the first year of Xerxes. If 485 BC was the first year of Xerxes, then 473 BC would be the 12th year of Xerxes, and the first year of Artaxerxes. Since 473 BC was the first year of Artaxerxes, then 453 BC would be the 20th year of Artaxerxes.
The correct date for the decree to rebuild the city of Jerusalem, therefore, is 453 BC. Daniel 9:25-26 states that the Messiah shall be “cut off”, but “not for himself”, after 69 weeks. If we count 69 “weeks” as 483 normal years, then the crucifixion of Christ would be in the year 30 AD. Jesus was born approximately 4 BC and started His ministry at about 30 years of age. He ministered for 3 years. He was crucified Wednesday, April 5, 30 AD the day before the Passover Sabbath on Thursday, April 6, 30 AD; age 33. He was in the grave 3 nights and 3 days, (Wed night, Thursday, Thursday night, Friday, Friday night, and Saturday) and the tomb was discovered empty early on the first day of the week, the morning following the weekly Saturday sabbath.
The date of Christ’s crucifixion is therefore exactly 483 normal years from the decree to rebuild Jerusalem. If the first 69 sevens are exactly 483 years, it stands to reason that the last 7 is also 7 years. Revelation speaks of 1260 days of the two witnesses and a temple, and then speaks of 42 months where the “woman” flees and the Beast rules. Paul says the “man of sin” will exalt himself above all that is called God and sit in the temple to be worshipped as God. Revelation says that the Beast will demand the worship of the world. That certainly sounds like an abomination set up at the midpoint of the last 7 years. These guys are grasping at straws, symbolizing numbers, rearranging texts into aabb patterns, and misinterpreting scriptures to try to get around a straight reading of the Bible. Guys, you’re kicking against the ox goads.
This has been hashed out to the last detail. The Messiah, Jesus, was cut-off to the day. It's not easy to figure out but it has been done many times.
Daniel 9:27 ... is speaking of the new covenant that Jesus Christ our promised Messiah confirms with many, for three and a half years of the seventieth week, (not as the unlearned, who give this covenant to the antichrist) from his anointing~baptism at the age of thirty, to his sacrifice and death, and resurrection when he was thirty three years of age, for the remission of sins.
But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, [G1242] which was established upon better promises.
{Hebrews 8:6}
For this is the covenant [G1242] that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; *I will put my laws* into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
{Hebrews 8:10}
For this is my blood of the new testament, [G1242] which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
{Matthew 26:28}
And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, [G1242] which is shed for many.
{Mark 14:24}
Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament [G1242] in my blood, which is shed for you.
{Luke 22:20}
Daniel 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”
The "he" is not Jesus. It is the Anti-Christ. Tie this in with 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2 and it will make sense. On the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate. That is the Anti-Christ. Jesus talks about the middle of the week when the Anti-Christ, the abomination of desolation appears in the third temple in Jerusalem claiming to be God and cutting off the sacrafices and oblations of the Jewish people. They are still living under the Old Covenant and as Paul points out, that is God's plan. Like it or not.
@@robertbrown7470
Incorrect. That is a blasphemy.
Seventy weeks are determined [divided from the 2,300 prophetic days = years] upon *thy people and upon thy holy city*
...to finish the transgression, and
(Jn 19:30; Col 2:13-14; Is 53:12)
...to make an end of sins, and
(Jn 1:29; 1Jn 3:5; Jn 5:14; Jn 8:11; Rom 6:6-7; 1 Cor 15:3; Heb 9:26-28; Heb 10:14)
...to make reconciliation for iniquity, and
(Rom 5:10; 2 Cor 5:18-19; Col 1:20-22; Eph 2:14-16)
...to bring in everlasting righteousness, and
(Matt 3:15; Rom 3:21-22; Rom 8:4; 2 Cor 5:21)
...to *seal up the vision and prophecy* and
(Matt 3:13-17)
...to anoint the most Holy.
(Jn 1:32-34; Mark 1:15; Acts 10:38; Luke 4:18; Is 61:1)
{Daniel 9:24} < The context
And he [the Messiah] shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK: and IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK (the seventieth) he [Christ] SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations (the continued temple sacrifices, after Christ one perfect sacrifice.) he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. ("Behold your house has been left unto you desolate.")
{Daniel 9:27}
7 weeks + 62 weeks + *one week* = 70 weeks, to anoint the most Holy, and to seal up the vision and the prophecy.
Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, *It was necessary* that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: (for there were three and a half years remaining grace for "thy people" of the final week.) but seeing ye put it from you, and *judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life* lo, we turn to the Gentiles.
For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.
And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
{Acts 13:46-48}
To fulfil the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah, until *the land had enjoyed her sabbaths* for as long as she lay desolate she kept sabbath, to fulfil threescore and ten years.
{2 Chronicles 36:21}
For 490 years, equal to 70 sabbath rest for the land every seventh year, that Israel and Judah transgressed the law of God.
This is why they received seventy years exiled in bondage in the land of Babylon.
There was no gap in their seventy years in exil, and there is no gap in the 490 years of transgressing the law of God, and there most certainly was no gap unto the coming of the Messiah who did not come in a vacuum, but rather confirmed his covenant with many for there and a half years, and in the land of Israel's inheritance.
The stoning of Steven is when probation closed on the covenant that God made with the their fathers, exactly three and a half years after Jesus Christ, our passover was sacrificed for us, and the gospel of the kingdom of heaven went out unto the Gentiles also.
@@robertbrown7470
Now of the things which we have spoken this is *the sum* We have such an high priest, (of the order of Melchizedek; chapter 7) who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty *in the heavens*
A minister of *the sanctuary* and of the true tabernacle, *which the Lord pitched and not man*
For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.
(His life; "no greater love"...)
For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests [Levitical] that offer gifts according to the law:
Who serve unto the example and *shadow* of *heavenly things* as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make *the tabernacle* for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to *the pattern* shewed to thee in the mount.
*But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry* by how much also *he* is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
*For if that first covenant had been faultless then should no place have been sought for the second*
For *finding fault with them* he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make *a new covenant* with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; *I will put my laws into their mind and write them in their hearts* and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
{Hebrews 8:1-10} (Jer 31:31-33)
@@larrybedouin2921 Do you know what blasphemy is? lol
@@larrybedouin2921 There were a lot more than 490 of transgressing and transmograforcation, etc.
Dear brothers, this teaching is particularly poor !
3.5 years somehow translates to the entire age of the gentiles? Lol talking about a stretch, gimme a break 🤦👎
I agree with you there. The timeline between the 69th and 70th Sevens is going to be about 2,000 years, give or take. And besides, if we understand essentially what Paul told us (really God or the Holy Spirit), this time frame is for the sake of the Gentiles until their full number comes in. It has nothing to do with 3 1/2 years.
This is a totally unproductive attempt to spiritualize and therefore rationalize away the Book of Revelation - something that has been done all throughout the history of the church. There is a reason that John writes, "Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near" (Rev 1:3). Despite that Daniel's 69 weeks works perfectly from the decree to restore Jerusalem to the arrival of the Messiah in Jerusalem, you go off on this plethora of assumed symbolic interpretations of other passages of scripture, in order to argue that the 70 weeks themselves are symbolic and not literal. Sorry, you have failed to prove your point. In another post, related to your assumptions that the Gog-Magog of Ezek 38/39, Armageddon, and second Gog-Magog of Revelation are THE SAME battle, you failed there to demonstrate that point. A simple, I recommend that you do this, analysis of each of those battles proves that they are separate and distinct, and not the same. Who are the leaders? Who are the participants? How were the dead bodies managed? What was the location of the battle? All different and cannot be rationalized as the same. We'll meet again at the rapture, just BEFORE the tribulation. Thank the Lord!
What does an understanding of the New Covenant do to the Pretrib Rapture doctrine?
Since the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20, how is the New Covenant Church age going to end seven years before the Second Coming of Christ? Why would anyone think God is going back to the Old Covenant system now made “obsolete” by the New Covenant in Hebrews 8:13? We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it.
The Capitol "C" Church, as we use the word today, is not found in the entire Book of Revelation. Individual church bodies in ancient Asia Minor are found. In Revelation 12:11 we find those under the blood of the Lamb. A person cannot be under the blood of the Lamb and not be a part of the New Covenant Church of Jesus Christ. Verse 12 of this passage proves at least part of the tribulation period is the wrath of Satan upon the people of God.
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
"It may come as a surprise to most pre-Trib prophecy students that the post-Trib position (in its primitive form) is the oldest point of view."
(The quotation above is from the book "Will You Escape The Tribulation? RAPTURE [Under Attack]", by Tim LaHaye, copyright 1998, Page 197.) Tim LaHaye was co-author of the “Left Behind” books and movies which have convinced millions of modern Christians that the Church age ends seven years before the Second Coming of Christ. Recently, Pastor Matt Furse of Mountain View Baptist Church in Custer, S.D. has written a book titled “Which One Is Right?’, which reveals the recent history of the pretrib rapture doctrine, and the fact it does not agree with what is written in the King James Bible.
The gathering of the Church is described at the end of 1 Thess. Chapter 4, and the timing of the event is found in chapter 5. The word “But” in the first verse of chapter 5 connects the two chapters, and the words “we” and “sleep” in verse 10 of chapter 5 prove the two chapters are connected.
The Greek words for “wrath” and “tribulation” are not the same word, as proven by the verse below.
Rev 1:9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Watch the TH-cam video “Pretribulation Paradox” by former pretrib believer skydiver626.
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Multiple Second Coming Visions in Revelation: (book not in chronological order )
Christ returns one time in the future. However, there are several different visions of His return shown from different perspectives in the Book of Revelation.
Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse.
Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb.
Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present?
The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ.
He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18.
The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15.
The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13.
He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and we find the greatest earthquake in history in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial. How powerful is an earthquake which moves islands and destroys the mountains? What is happening to the planet?
He comes on a horse in chapter 19.
Chapter 20?
Does He come with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1?
(The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.)
There are no mortals left alive on the planet at the end of Matthew 25:31-46.
Why does an angel come down from heaven with a key to unlock the bottomless pit in Revelation 9:1-2, if the pit was not already locked before that time? Are there wicked angels in the pit in Rev. 9:11? If the beast "ascends" from the pit in Rev. chapter 11, where was the beast before that time?
Does your view agree with Peter in 2 Pet. 2:4, and Jude in Jude 1:6, when they both said wicked angels are already in chains of darkness?
Revelation 9:14 proves some of the angels were previously bound in some manner.
Because the two witnesses were bodily resurrected from the dead in Revelation 11, the "first resurrection" at the beginning of Revelation 20 is not the first bodily resurrection in the book.
The principle of "Recapitulation" means there are multiple visions of His return.
@@SpotterVideo "What does an understanding of the New Covenant do to the Pretrib Rapture doctrine?"
Nothing. The New Covenant is an everlasting covenant to the individuals that fall under it. The Old Covenent was also an “everlasting covenant” for those that fell under it. Is the term “everlasting covenant” to mean for all of mankind for all time? No. There is an everlasting covenant for the Jews during “their time” and there is an everlasting covenant for Christians that applies during the “church age”. God never lies and never changes His mind (Numbers 23:19, Titus 1:2, Hebrews 6:18). Whatever agreement made between God and men is eternal, but that does not mean that God cannot orchestrate different covenants that are “everlasting” for different groups of people throughout the ages.
When the angel Gabriel told Daniel there were “70 weeks proscribed for your people”, Gabriel was telling him that that was it for the Jews. The end. But the 70th week was distinct and separated from the first 69 weeks and is yet to happen. That week is the tribulation. The message of Daniel’s 70 weeks prophecy is that the focus will be on the Jews up until the arrival of the Messiah and then during the seven year tribulation. Obviously, Gabriel could not specify that the church is removed because nothing was stated specifically about the church. It was a mystery to the Jews.
The church is removed at the rapture - we can all agree to that. But it does not make sense to have the church present during the tribulation. That arrangement will have come to its conclusion. That is, the doors will be closed on the New Covenant - just prior to the tribulation. Note that the church age is distinctly different from the period during the tribulation. During the tribulation, 144,000 Jews are called to be witnesses for Christ (Revelation 7). They will be special and cannot be harmed (Revelation 14). They are called to preach the gospel because the church was removed. During the church age, God demands faith alone - and without it, God cannot be “pleased” (Hebrews 11:6). And, during the church age, God has removed any actions on His part that can be concretely shown that He exists - save for the manifestation of Him through the creation (Romans 1). This is unlike all other periods where God would regularly manifest His presence in tangible, overt, and supernatural ways.
During the tribulation, God will once again overtly manifest His presence, first indirectly through the early judgments, and finally, directly in the later judgements. Because of the specificity of the Book of Revelation, there shall be no doubt that God is orchestrating the twenty-one judgments. They are exact fulfillments of His prophetic word and they are often supernatural. Therefore, how does “faith” factor in? It does not. Again, to emphasize, this is nothing like the church age. People will not “believe by faith”, but they will be forced to make life or death decisions for Christ. Because they will not be able to “buy or sell”, many will starve to death. Many others will be beheaded by order of the antichrist because they did not take the mark of the beast. The tribulation will be all about obedience, not primarily faith. It does not follow the New Covenant. The New Covenant concluded at the rapture which preceded the tribulation. Following the tribulation, Jesus, for a period of 1000 years, will establish rule “with an iron scepter” on the earth and directly and overtly in the presence of everyone. There will absolutely be no doubt as to who He is. Again, how does faith factor in? It does not. Obviously, the so-called New Covenant doesn’t apply during the millennium either. Conclusion: the so-called New Covenant ended just prior to the tribulation.
Tim LaHaye was in error when he said, "It may come as a surprise to most pre-Trib prophecy students that the post-Trib position (in its primitive form) is the oldest point of view." He was wrong. The very first indications of when the rapture would take place is principally the reason that Paul wrote 2 Thessalonians in 52 AD. The people there thought that they had been “left behind”, that they had missed the rapture. And Paul assured them that, had they been left behind, several things would have taken place, such as the Holy Spirit would no longer be “restraining”, the rebellion would have been going on, and the man of sin would have been revealed. None of which had taken place in 52 AD.
@@FeetMusical Based on Hebrews 9:15, the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26 cannot be separated from the New Covenant fulfilled by His blood at Calvary.
Is the New Covenant found in Daniel chapter 9?
Are we supposed to believe the angel Gabriel appeared to Daniel to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then the angel failed to even mention the New Covenant. Or, is the covenant with the many in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the many in Matthew 26:28? The 1599 Geneva Bible is the Bible the Pilgrims brought to America, before John Darby showed up on our shores about the time of the Civil War. What was the earlier understanding of Daniel 9:27 found below in the notes of the 1599 Geneva Bible?
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Dan 9:27 And he shal confirme the couenant with many for one weeke: and in the middes of the weeke he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the ouerspreading of the abominations, he shall make it desolate, euen vntill the consummation determined shalbe powred vpon the desolate.
Daniel 9:27
And he (a) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to (b) cease, (c) and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
(a) By the preaching of the Gospel he affirmed his promise, first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. (See Rom. 1:16, Matt. 10:5-7, Acts 10:36-38)
(b) Christ accomplished this by his death and resurrection. (See Heb. 9:15)
(c) Meaning that Jerusalem and the sanctuary would be utterly destroyed because of their rebellion against God, and their idolatry: or as some read, that the plague will be so great, that they will all be astonished at them.
(See Matt. 23:38, Matt. 24:1-2, Luke 19:41-44)
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During recent years many New Covenant scholars have examined Daniel chapter 9 from a New Covenant perspective. Did Christ fulfill the summary found in Daniel 9:24? Is it about the New Covenant fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary?
Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. (These two verses are quoted from Jeremiah 31:31-34.)
Heb 10:18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
The death of the Messiah is found in Daniel 9:26, and there are only two possible singular antecedents for the word “he” in the next verse. Those antecedents are either Christ or Titus, who was the prince of the people that destroyed the temple during 70 AD.
Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Is the “he” in Daniel 9:27 the “Messiah”, or “the prince” of the people that destroyed the city and the sanctuary in verse 26? If we used “the people of the prince” it would not be a singular “he”.
Does the author of the Book of Hebrews connect the New Covenant with the Messiah’s death found in Daniel 9:26, in the verse below?
Heb 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. (NKJV)
Verse 26 also says the Messiah would be cut off “after” the 69 weeks. If I agree to paint your house “after” 69 weeks, it will not be painted until the 70th week, or after. Is there a “gap” of almost 2,000 years between the 69th week and the 70th week, or was it fulfilled during the first century when the Gospel was preached “first” to the Jews?
We know there is a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as the Apostle Paul said in the verse below.
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
Can we find a time period of about seven years when the Gospel was taken “first” to Daniel’s people during the first century? If we can, we have good evidence that the 70th week of Daniel has already been fulfilled.
Did Christ command His disciples to take the Gospel only to Israel in the passage below?
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans.
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as you go, preach, saying, 'The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'
Is the time period when the Gospel was preached “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews in the passage above, confirmed in the passage below?
Act 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Act 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
In the passage above Luke confirms the fact that the Gospel of Christ was preached throughout the land of Israel after the baptism which John preached. Here again, we have a text which reveals a time period when the Gospel was taken “first” to the Jews, as Paul said in Romans 1:16.
Bible scholars have looked at the number of Passover celebrations in the Gospels and have estimated Christ’s earthly ministry to have lasted about three and one half years. Was the Gospel taken “first” (Rom. 1:16) to the Jews for a period of about three and one half years during the period of time revealed in the Gospels?
In Galatians 1:14-18 Paul reveals he did not go up to see Peter until about 3 years after his conversion. During that time the Gospel continued to be taken almost exclusively to Daniel's people, before Paul took the Gospel to the Gentiles.
Watch the TH-cam video on Daniel 9 by Dr. Kelly Varner.
Pretrib rapture is not biblical
@@AustinGonder The "nice thing" is that it will happen when it happens. And believers will rejoice whether they believed in the pre-trib or post-trib version of prophetic events. However, the thought process that "spiritualizes" the Book of Revelation is way off the mark and totally misses the point of Revelation 1:3.
This “little boys club” need to read one of the leading Hebrew messianic scholars, Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum. The book is called, Israelology, the missing link in systematic theology. He’ll teach them a few truths on Hebrew language and grammar and also a few dispensational truths, while at it. What a bunch of ignoramuses. Lord help these people to see Your Word for all its richness and worth!
So you think another book has to be read to have a view on the bible?
@@StudioEnergizerMV
Isn’t it what people who are watching this video are doing? The guys in the video are sharing their view on a particular topic. I’d say doing it very passionately. People are listening to them and learning from them. That’s how people’s understanding is being shaped. Because I strongly disagree with what’s being taught, I’ve offered an alternative on the same topic.
@@AhavatYeshua fair enough
I try to be nice, but it's hard. Please Holy Spirit give me wisdom. 2 doesn't mean 2 unless it fits with our ideology. The scriptural gymnastics that have to be done to make this work is incredible. Dr. Chuck Misslers teaching on this subject is fantastic.
Why do you copy and paste the same condescending reply on all their videos on this topic? You are a deceiver pushing your filth, why else would you take the time to spam their videos. It is clear their interpretation is correct and there is no 2000 year pause between week 69 and 70. The dumbest thing anyone ever imagined.
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TAKE your time speek quiet and slow
You too loud abd RUDE😂😮