Can we talk about what a great friend Angel Summoner is? Despite the huge power gap, he still supports his BMX friend, and even reminds people, like the hostage lady, they're a duo.
It really does seem like BMX Bandit does all the recon and research. Without him finding the criminals and the contraband, Angel Summoner wouldn't have any clue where to send his angels.
On the other hand I'd find a bit of realism in video games quite refreshing, when mages and summoners can unleash godlike powers are more powerful than an assassin with a silly dagger.
@@alexico909 Eh. Verisimilitude (effectively believability) and internal consistency. One person can treat the laws of nature as a suggestion, the assassin can backstab real good. It feels wrong to have them balanced. You -can- change magic fundamentally, do something similar to the spellcaster being able to just do tiny luck based things, for example, but if you want flashy magic (fireball et al) it is, if not unavoidable, very difficult to justify balance.
@@MaxPower-ke5rq They do, much like how undernourished peasants in the real world had experience with angry knights with their well-armed retinue of men-at-arms. That is, try not to get noticed, beg and scrape and offer anything if you attract their attention. So as it goes with mundane assassins who don't have a plan to deal with spellcasters who can, say, mind-control the entire city or make gods eat out of their hand besides 'hope they don't have any countermeasures that can't be foiled by a convenient backstab'.
"You pop a wheelie or do an endo or perform whatever trick you think most suitable for disarming a group of fanatics with assault weapons...I will stay here, and watch" my sides ached after hearing that xD
To be fair, every other scenario thus far were ones the BMX Bandit could actually do, but now the GM's tailored the encounters to Angel Summoner, so of course BMX Bandit can't do anything anymore.
Well Licenseless Rider is inspiring for the morales so he kinda had the post-serum but pre-superhero Capitan America role (when he sold war bonds, which is positively contributing to the effort). I mean, this isn't huge, but at least it's a positive function. BMX bandit here is just a deadweight who complains about his feelings being hurt and gets him killed in a stupid way while jeopardizing the mission. If Licenseless Rider dies trying to fight, I'd shed tears. For the BMX bandit, I'd want to reduce the punishment for whoever killed him.
Pathfinder as well. Also, still gonna happen in Pathfinder 2, apparently. Also, in 5th Ed D&D. In 4th Ed, everyone was a caster in everything but name, so no problems there.
Not according to the semi-official tier list, which places the Fighter at tier 5, with potential for tier 4, the same rank as a Ranger and Warlock. 1d4chan.org/wiki/Tier_System
“Okay Saitama, I’m going to charge up against Deep Sea King at full speed, pop a wheelie, then disable him with my Justice Crash. That will give you time to save the refugees inside the stadium!” “Or I could just use one normal punch.”
+Varangian Bill When driving a vehicle that uses a group of animals or magical beasts as muscle propulsion, the DCs of all driving checks are reduced by 2, the maximum speed of the vehicle increases by 10 feet, and the acceleration increases by 5 feet. This ability takes the place of trapfinding. So good.
Because a kobold said so. 5e fighter: ill attack TWICE and then possibly knock them prone, then use my bonus action to bonk them again! 5e caster: or... i could summon a horde of ang...er animal spirits.
5e is so poorly balanced it's annoying. In previous versions all players got to feel like actual badasses with options but 5e is so focused on simplicity it took 90% of the Martials' toolkit and threw it out.
Nah it's all about the Rubix Cube action now. Angel Summoner needs to find a new partner worthy of him. Rubix Cube Speed Solver Champion is a worthy match.
I was a 90s kids, In-lines were the hit thing and then quickly became associated with a certain group of people with certain same attraction proclivities. I blame Rocket Power for tainting them. That show was terrible.
+Jeremy Smith I'm sure Superman can at least do a few things right? Like, heat up the coffee. You know, in case Batman forgot his coffee heating up ray or something.
Thor: an alien who is also Norse god with a huge magical hammer. Hawkeye and Black Widow: a guy with a bow, and a girl who's good at martial arts. Rightyho.
I made a literal "Angel Summoner" in Pathfinder and posted this video on my group's forum....the fighter complained he couldnt fly....I started laughing...like CRYING LAUGH.
+Stavol2Dual Not really, and I have lost his charsheet. Aasimar Summoner 10th level, Biped Eidolon, supernatural Flight Evolution, Large Evolution, Natural Armor Evolution to max. It's Feats were Power Attack, Weapon Proficiency (Greatsword). But there are better rules now for Angels in the Book "Faiths of Purity".
Things-That-Never-Happened For 500, Bill. Fighter can easily fly, Winged Mask is only 13,000 gold and allows them to fly at-will. There's also Winged Boots, Broom of Flying, Owlfeather Armor, Shield of Flying, or he could just buy a pegasus mount, which is a far cooler way to fly anyway.
Sokka: Alright, Aang - here's the plan. I go in there, use my boomerang, and knock out the fire nation soldiers on the ship. Then I'll pop a wheelie, and send Momo to attack the twenty others. Then you can untie Toph and Katara. Aang: ...Or, I could just summon the power of all four elements and solve this problem instantly. Sokka: Yeah. Well. You could do that, I guess.
@@kaputtnik5737 Oh, absolutely! I'm not knocking Sokka's boomerang/wheelie skills, you understand - I just think this convo would have realistically happened at least once ;)
This is literally the plot of One Punch. One superhero has the ability to win a battle against literally anyone with one single punch, the other rides a bike.
As someone who plays mainly fighters in D&D I relate to the BMX bandit. Anecdote: My mates and I was playing a high level game, we were fighting to reach a BBEG in his fortress filled with evil Duergar and Drow. As me and the other fighter, and the paladin make ready to charge, the sorcerer and wizard says “Oi, we got this.” And proceeds to cast two meteor swarms consecutively on top of the enemy fortress. The DM laughed and ripped out what looked like ten pages of content from his notebook and said “Having dealt with the bulk of the enemy fortress. You find a trap door leading into the undercroft”
11th level fighter, "Those two hobgoblins have crossbows trained on the hostages and they're 60 feet away. I propose I dash towards them, use my action surge for a second dash action, once I'm in range I can expend superiority dice on all 3 of my attacks to disarm them." 7th level wizard, "Or... I could just walk over there and put them in a resilient sphere?"
this sort of thing was my immediate thought as well like when a wizard plays aside a rogue in 5e "I could move to that tile and try to disarm the trap with my skills" "or we could use a cantrip and do it without a check from 30 feet away" "oh yeah alright"
I dont know the rules but isnt an Evil Lair inside of a dungeon filled with mean Dwarves most likely underground? How could the meteors hit something buried so deep?
This gives me Final Fantasy VII vibes, when Cloud is having the flashback of fighting alongside Sephiroth. Like every enemy one shots Cloud to death, then Sephiroth resurrects him, then one shots the enemy with a 9999 critical.
3:19 "When you land, assuming you haven't fallen short and been dashed to the pavement" Even that's not an issue; I'm sure one of the angels could just cast Revivify (I think Angel Summoner just got a new partner because BMX Bandit chose to retire) 😇
I mean that is a pretty OP power. It's like when you watch an Avengers film or an ensemble super hero movie, like the most recent Suicide Squad, and there's that one disgustingly OP character in the group, that when they get introduced and explain their power, you start wondering? When ever is there a real threat for this person? And then at the end, I was right the person who was clearly OP-ed ended up saving the day. Though in the example I'm thinking of, they didn't sell that person as OP but if you logic it out, clearly saw they were. Like in The Suicide Squad James Gunn version, really there wasn't ever a threat you have a person who can do what this character does and it doesn't matter the casualties.
This was literally my first time playing DnD. I played a warrior and apparently charging in with my sword was "too risky" so he just turned into a fucking magical bear and tore his way through every dungeon. He also had a fucking pet mini-dragon if you can believe that
Ah, moon druids. The very least balanced basic sourcebook subclass in 5th-edition by far, at earlier levels. I guess he was a variant human, too? Allowing access to a feat that would grant the familiar. Borrowing the psuedodragon option for a familiar from warlock pact of chain is a bit cheeky though. A druid isn't meant to have access to that. DM was asleep? That or just overly generous. That's still a bit shit to tell you to hang back though. You still could've waded in and done damage. It's such a basic DMing thing to allow the players to have a part in battle as often as possible. Doesn't sound like a great group honestly. My first time in D&D I played a chaotic-stupid barbarian gnome princess who thought trying to smash through a stone wall... a *cursed* stone wall... with a chain whip, was a *good* idea. I was super dumb, and my weapon broke, of course it did. The DM still, after enough are-you-sures, let me do it. Still found a way to get me another weapon before the next fight, and I still joined in with that fight. That's how it's done. You bend over backwards to include your players, that's what you're there for. Enormous power imbalance between players is imo best nipped in the bud and said "no" to before it even happens, but if you've messed up and let it happen anyway, there are still plenty of ways to make up the difference. Give the underpowered ones some magic items that only work on their race or class. Give the overpowered ones a powerful enemy with a particular grudge against them specifically, or enemies that particularly go against their playstyle. Put a magical barrier between party members at the start of a fight. I mean these are not ideal things to do, but it's better than having players think they're just watching the game. Plenty of ways around it. Or... in the case of a moon druid, just level everyone up very quickly! They really lose momentum as the levels scale up. By about level 5 or 6, they're on par with anyone and from then-on, gradually get a bit underpowered. That's not a super-high level to get your players to, and you can do it whenever you want. Have some wizard mess around with time and zap them to the future if it needs to be immediate. Have the party inadvertently take credit for an adventure some other in-game adventuring group actually did the work on. Again, plenty of options. DMs ought to be a lot more creative against such pitfalls. Hope you didn't give up on it just from that one game?
@@Torthrodhel DM was EXTREMELY generous haha. The game was marketed to me, as a new player, as a taster of how DnD works and what its like to progress as a player. Therefore the DM was happy for our talented friend to deal tons of damage in combat. To be fair, it was cool as a new player to see what sort of damage and cool abilities could be unlocked. Also helped me understand combat mechanics.
@@xfmmanktwat9383 that sounds really neat. :) Glad it was cool. What kind of warrior were you, do you mean the "warrior" sidekick class or was it one of the full martial classes like fighter or barbarian?
It's not, but it's a perfect analogy even if they didn't intend it to be. This really might as well just be Wizard & Fighter. Right down to BMX Bandit having to be aided by Angel Summoner to make the jump across the gap.
this is like when a wizard plays aside a rogue in 5e "I could move to that tile and try to disarm the trap with my skills" "or we could use a cantrip and do it without a check from 30 feet away" "oh yeah alright"
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This five minute bit, completely sums up all the cross over episodes of the Flash and Arrow.
To be fair, Barry is really shit at actually having a plan and not messing up the time line.
+Pascal Engler but that's the thing. Why not give a power like that to someone who IS what you described? Imagine Arrow with the Speed Force.
Supergirl and everyone else
Daniel goo Perhaps someone can only become that hardened without powers. Or, at the very least the speed force makes one a bit lazy lol.
+Justin Teter
Speedo dude only got his speed powers as an adult.
Can we talk about what a great friend Angel Summoner is?
Despite the huge power gap, he still supports his BMX friend, and even reminds people, like the hostage lady, they're a duo.
Not just any duo...a crime fighting duo d-d-d-d-duo yeaaaah!
Whatever
Yea whatever
He lets his friend fall to his death at the end
It really does seem like BMX Bandit does all the recon and research. Without him finding the criminals and the contraband, Angel Summoner wouldn't have any clue where to send his angels.
From the days when you could get Olivia Coleman to come on and do one line at the end of a comedy sketch.
What? Me and Lindybeige watching the same video one hour from one another?
Lindy what do you think of Alan Partridge?
@@MrHarrystank what do you mean by that 👁
She was in the main cast for "That Mitchell and Webb Look," it's not like this was a cameo or something.
The fact I've seen so many of your comments on videos I watch, leads me to believe we have similar interests.
Angel Summoner would be utterly useless without the goodlike intel that BMX Bandit provided him with. What a duo!
Man in the van
I mean the angels could just tell him..
Although BMX Bandit seems to be pretty good at reconnaissance and intel.
Thats a good point
Outclassed at 3:25 XD
well I guess you didn't have phones emails or discord 7 yrs ago. Wait...
Or the angels could take care of it. It’s no problem!
You don't really need recon when you have an army of invisible angels tho
Sure, but if Tony Hawk ever goes rogue, BMX Bandit will be the one to take him down.
WINGSPAN TT Well he could, but I think a horde of Celestial Super-beings could also do that job pretty well too.
shrimpisdelicious But then how would be using his BMX?
Or angel summoner send the horde of angels on him...
Nope, still the angels.
Well not anymore
Wizard Vs Fighter arguments
An invaluable tool when explaining to people why class balance in video games is important even in PvE/co-op games.
On the other hand I'd find a bit of realism in video games quite refreshing, when mages and summoners can unleash godlike powers are more powerful than an assassin with a silly dagger.
@@Kalenz1234 magic...... realism? 😂
@@alexico909 Eh. Verisimilitude (effectively believability) and internal consistency. One person can treat the laws of nature as a suggestion, the assassin can backstab real good. It feels wrong to have them balanced. You -can- change magic fundamentally, do something similar to the spellcaster being able to just do tiny luck based things, for example, but if you want flashy magic (fireball et al) it is, if not unavoidable, very difficult to justify balance.
@@Fearnil and in a world of magic you think assassins wouldn’t have experience dealing with that?
@@MaxPower-ke5rq They do, much like how undernourished peasants in the real world had experience with angry knights with their well-armed retinue of men-at-arms. That is, try not to get noticed, beg and scrape and offer anything if you attract their attention. So as it goes with mundane assassins who don't have a plan to deal with spellcasters who can, say, mind-control the entire city or make gods eat out of their hand besides 'hope they don't have any countermeasures that can't be foiled by a convenient backstab'.
Why do I feel like angel summoner is (knowingly or otherwise) slowly going through crime fighting partners to expand the angelic horde
oh shi- ! you might be onto something!
.... you're not wrong
Now BMX bandit can fight crime as a BMX-riding angel.
bold of you to assume the BMX Bandit is going to heaven...
Angels aren't dead people.
"You pop a wheelie or do an endo or perform whatever trick you think most suitable for disarming a group of fanatics with assault weapons...I will stay here, and watch" my sides ached after hearing that xD
To be fair, every other scenario thus far were ones the BMX Bandit could actually do, but now the GM's tailored the encounters to Angel Summoner, so of course BMX Bandit can't do anything anymore.
@@InfernosReaper Joke: received
Really? Your side ached…? It was THAT funny to you?
Just discovered this in February 2023. Holy balls! this is some of the best comedy in the history of mankind! 🤣😂🤣😂
We all have at least one friendship that makes us feel like the BMX Bandit.
D&D class balance.
I do appreciate how considerate Angel Summoner is. He really tried to make it work. Ah well. Hope things with Gymkhana Girl fare better
Saitama and Licenseless Rider.
Well Licenseless Rider is inspiring for the morales so he kinda had the post-serum but pre-superhero Capitan America role (when he sold war bonds, which is positively contributing to the effort). I mean, this isn't huge, but at least it's a positive function.
BMX bandit here is just a deadweight who complains about his feelings being hurt and gets him killed in a stupid way while jeopardizing the mission.
If Licenseless Rider dies trying to fight, I'd shed tears. For the BMX bandit, I'd want to reduce the punishment for whoever killed him.
the dnd caster-martial imbalence
Actually, if you think about it, the BMX bandit seems to have found the bad guys' hide-out so he did do something useful.
Pretty sure Angel Summoner just got a call from the police asking him to deal with the situation.
Now with his broken spine he can be Oracle!
Summoning some angels could also do the trick though XD
@@flyforce16 Honestly I'm not sure why he doesn't just have them summoned all the time
This must be how Hawkeye feels being on the same team as Thor.
But he'll never admit it
@@themaninblack7503 he kinda did tho… in Age of Ultron when he points out how he just has a bow
Mjolnir + hostage situation = dead hostages.
@@glennmartin6492 Brilliant! Completely removes the tactical significance of the hostages.
D&D 3.5 in a nutshell
Shadowrun Summoners in a Nutshell :P
Pathfinder as well. Also, still gonna happen in Pathfinder 2, apparently. Also, in 5th Ed D&D. In 4th Ed, everyone was a caster in everything but name, so no problems there.
Believe it or not, one year later we've got a bunch of people saying casters were nerfed too hard in Pathfinder 2! To speak nothing of summoning.
Not according to the semi-official tier list, which places the Fighter at tier 5, with potential for tier 4, the same rank as a Ranger and Warlock.
1d4chan.org/wiki/Tier_System
@@bud389 Most tier lists actually put Fighter in Tier 5. High Tier 5, but still; it's mostly dependent on how you twink them out.
“Okay Saitama, I’m going to charge up against Deep Sea King at full speed, pop a wheelie, then disable him with my Justice Crash. That will give you time to save the refugees inside the stadium!”
“Or I could just use one normal punch.”
Well if Saitama had been present, there wouldn’t have been a crisis.
Pact Tactics reminded me of this legendary skit.
"They're a crime fightin' duo, DU-DU-DU, du-du-oh yeahhhh!"
Brilliant writing
All hail License-less rider, the true Iconic rogue (driver).
+Varangian Bill When driving a vehicle that uses a group of animals or magical beasts
as muscle propulsion, the DCs of all driving checks are reduced by 2,
the maximum speed of the vehicle increases by 10 feet, and the
acceleration increases by 5 feet.
This ability takes the place of trapfinding. So good.
and that one time he twonked the sea king!
Angel Summoner: Level 10 Wizard
BMX Bandit: Any level 10 martial class that is also not a semi-caster.
Of course you are talking post-2nd edition.
Yup. Ever since 3rd Edition, a caster basically outdone everyone else.
Unless they run out of spells :P
Emuel Jletgler If they run out of spells, they did it wrong ;)
Tbh, even back in 2nd as a spellcaster you could wreck the campaign.
"...we'll solve using BMX based tactics" I fucking lost it
Maybe Ukraine should be using BMX Tactics 😏
Maybe they are,!@@robbiekop7
Dr Manhattan and all the other watchmen.
Manhattan got played by Ozymandias
ever noticed that angel summoners staff is just sarumans staff from lord of the rings but just covered in feathers
ever noticed that angel summoners is just saruman from lord of the rings but just sprinkled with feathers
Seems Saruman had changed his ways ever since some ghoulish looking weirdo dropped his precious ring into lava.
@@Meitti Wrong villain.
Because a kobold said so.
5e fighter: ill attack TWICE and then possibly knock them prone, then use my bonus action to bonk them again!
5e caster: or... i could summon a horde of ang...er animal spirits.
5e is so poorly balanced it's annoying. In previous versions all players got to feel like actual badasses with options but 5e is so focused on simplicity it took 90% of the Martials' toolkit and threw it out.
Pack Tactics fan 👀
The dungeons and dragons caster martial divide
"You shit! You've summoned a load of invisible freaking angels to support me!"
Haha comic gold.
It was perfect. I think the only thing that would've made it funnier is at the end for the BMX bandit to come back as either a ghost or angel.
@@GrandmasterofWin And then he finds out it's because Angel Summoner put a good word in for him...
@@GrandmasterofWin Have not seen show in ages and thought was going to come back at end in wheelchair and be renamed Wheelchair Warrior or something.
Here from 2023, pack tactics sent me
Remember when a BMX was the height of childhood coolness?
Is it not anymore?
I remember the actual movie BMX Bandits, starring a very young Nicole Kidman, and basically the source for one half of this joke.
In my area of New Jersey all the kids are riding bikes. When I was a kid in the 2000s it was about skateboarding
Nah it's all about the Rubix Cube action now. Angel Summoner needs to find a new partner worthy of him. Rubix Cube Speed Solver Champion is a worthy match.
I was a 90s kids, In-lines were the hit thing and then quickly became associated with a certain group of people with certain same attraction proclivities. I blame Rocket Power for tainting them. That show was terrible.
Pack Tactics sent me. :-D
this is basically what suicide squad is
This is kind of how Superman and Batman crossovers would go.
+Jeremy Smith
I'm sure Superman can at least do a few things right? Like, heat up the coffee. You know, in case Batman forgot his coffee heating up ray or something.
Hhhmmmmm.... Try again. Remember Superman is pretty much a God.
+Jeremy Smith Hhhhhhhmmmmm, but batman IS batman afterall
+Jeremy Smith stfu you got destroyed m8.
+Gara Von Hoiwkenzoiber Underrated comment.
I find it depressing that the Angel Summoner is also a very nice person.
Yeah. He seems like a genuinely good bloke. But that is also what makes it even funnier.
Came here from Pack Tactics.
Absolutely love the little rev that Rob does in the title card.
Props to Angel summoner still trying to prop up his bro
Yup, Kobold knows how to explain it
This perfectly sums up most D&D groups.
One of the best crime-fighting duos of all time. I mean it's 99% Angel Summoner but BMX Bandit does do his bit.
BMX Bandit's the one with intel
I've seen this skit a hundred times in D&D flame wars but I'd never realized it was Mitchell and Webb. I love those guys.
You know who sent me here
Pack Tactics sent me
I believe in you, BMX Bandit!
So do I
Dnd martial classes and casters in a nutshell
tldw?
"your ability to summon a horde of celestial super-beings at will is making my BMX skills look a bit redundant"
It's been 4 years since you posted this comment
why click a video if you weren't going to watch it
A party with a 20th-level Cleric and a 20th-level Rogue
I was waiting for the Angel Summoner during the Rio Olympics BMX bike competition.
Who's here from Pack Tactics?
Here because of Pack Tactics
Thor: an alien who is also Norse god with a huge magical hammer.
Hawkeye and Black Widow: a guy with a bow, and a girl who's good at martial arts.
Rightyho.
They're a crime fighting duo, du-du-du, du-du-oh-yeah!
This is what Batman and Superman team-ups look like to me.
Sent by a blue kobold
I made a literal "Angel Summoner" in Pathfinder and posted this video on my group's forum....the fighter complained he couldnt fly....I started laughing...like CRYING LAUGH.
+SporeTres got a link?
+Stavol2Dual Not really, and I have lost his charsheet. Aasimar Summoner 10th level, Biped Eidolon, supernatural Flight Evolution, Large Evolution, Natural Armor Evolution to max. It's Feats were Power Attack, Weapon Proficiency (Greatsword). But there are better rules now for Angels in the Book "Faiths of Purity".
Fun fact: if you use the master summoner archetype you can become a literal "Angel Summoner" and spam astral devas.
Things-That-Never-Happened For 500, Bill.
Fighter can easily fly, Winged Mask is only 13,000 gold and allows them to fly at-will. There's also Winged Boots, Broom of Flying, Owlfeather Armor, Shield of Flying, or he could just buy a pegasus mount, which is a far cooler way to fly anyway.
@@bud389 Assuming you're in a game where the GM let's you buy whatever you want.
Sokka: Alright, Aang - here's the plan. I go in there, use my boomerang, and knock out the fire nation soldiers on the ship. Then I'll pop a wheelie, and send Momo to attack the twenty others. Then you can untie Toph and Katara.
Aang: ...Or, I could just summon the power of all four elements and solve this problem instantly.
Sokka: Yeah. Well. You could do that, I guess.
I'd love to see Sokka popping a wheelie 😂
@@kaputtnik5737 Oh, absolutely! I'm not knocking Sokka's boomerang/wheelie skills, you understand - I just think this convo would have realistically happened at least once ;)
@@tuxedobike4067 It'd be hilarious if he pulled an actual BMX out of nowhere and did some stunts.
Oh. The way she says sugarlumps
Reminds me of my first few girlfriends from the AO in Worcester.
Happy days….
This is literally the plot of One Punch. One superhero has the ability to win a battle against literally anyone with one single punch, the other rides a bike.
Mumen Rider! He’s a cyclist for justice!
The difference is that Saitama is rather flaky, while Angel Summoner seems to have his shit together.
If u read the webcomic you'll find that mumen rider is doing much more than riding a bike now
Angel Summoner was at least a good guy about it!
'What are those?
Shugarlumpsh
Oh.'
Fantastic - "Your ability to summon celestial superbeings is making my BMX skills look a bit redundant."
Might be the best line in the history of comedy
Who came from Pack Tactics?
I think this is the first M&W skit I saw probably 5 years ago. My life has been better in the last 5 years than ever before.
Mitchell and Webb predict Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice
Fargodeep With how Batman has been written in the last two to three decades, he's basically another Angel Summoner.
I never said who was who ;)
As someone who plays mainly fighters in D&D I relate to the BMX bandit.
Anecdote: My mates and I was playing a high level game, we were fighting to reach a BBEG in his fortress filled with evil Duergar and Drow. As me and the other fighter, and the paladin make ready to charge, the sorcerer and wizard says “Oi, we got this.” And proceeds to cast two meteor swarms consecutively on top of the enemy fortress. The DM laughed and ripped out what looked like ten pages of content from his notebook and said “Having dealt with the bulk of the enemy fortress. You find a trap door leading into the undercroft”
11th level fighter, "Those two hobgoblins have crossbows trained on the hostages and they're 60 feet away. I propose I dash towards them, use my action surge for a second dash action, once I'm in range I can expend superiority dice on all 3 of my attacks to disarm them."
7th level wizard, "Or... I could just walk over there and put them in a resilient sphere?"
Going cleric in a high-level game for Planar Ally lets you play as Angel Summoner explicitly!
this sort of thing was my immediate thought as well
like when a wizard plays aside a rogue in 5e
"I could move to that tile and try to disarm the trap with my skills"
"or we could use a cantrip and do it without a check from 30 feet away"
"oh yeah alright"
I dont know the rules but isnt an Evil Lair inside of a dungeon filled with mean Dwarves most likely underground? How could the meteors hit something buried so deep?
@@EDoyl summon celestial is available at even lower levels too
BMX Bandit is basically Hawkeye.
"Shugar lumpsh" that had me in tears.
Anyone else thinking of the Mumen Rider from One Punch Man?
Well atleast Mumen Rider survived against the Sea King, thats a feat right
Mumen Rider at least gives Saitama a ride. BMX Bandit let's Angel Summoner run on foot.
This gives me Final Fantasy VII vibes, when Cloud is having the flashback of fighting alongside Sephiroth.
Like every enemy one shots Cloud to death, then Sephiroth resurrects him, then one shots the enemy with a 9999 critical.
Never thought I’d see an FFVII reference on a Mitchell and Webb video but I’m here for it.
This BMX bloke seems like he is really good at gathering intel.
Love the way The BMX Banidit rides in on the title sequence! lol
This is just Superman and Jimmy Olsen's entire friendship dynamic.
To be clear, Superman in this scenario is BMX Bandit.
I wonder if Angel Summoner had a hand in Great Britain winning gold & silver in the BMX racing event. :D
3:19 "When you land, assuming you haven't fallen short and been dashed to the pavement" Even that's not an issue; I'm sure one of the angels could just cast Revivify (I think Angel Summoner just got a new partner because BMX Bandit chose to retire) 😇
i wish angel summoner and bmx bandit was a real series XD
Spider-Man: “why not call Doctor Strange?”
It’s a real testament to your BMXing skills! 😁
I love the theme tune to this, it's ace.
This is what superman and batman team ups should be like.
I mean that is a pretty OP power. It's like when you watch an Avengers film or an ensemble super hero movie, like the most recent Suicide Squad, and there's that one disgustingly OP character in the group, that when they get introduced and explain their power, you start wondering? When ever is there a real threat for this person? And then at the end, I was right the person who was clearly OP-ed ended up saving the day. Though in the example I'm thinking of, they didn't sell that person as OP but if you logic it out, clearly saw they were. Like in The Suicide Squad James Gunn version, really there wasn't ever a threat you have a person who can do what this character does and it doesn't matter the casualties.
This was literally my first time playing DnD. I played a warrior and apparently charging in with my sword was "too risky" so he just turned into a fucking magical bear and tore his way through every dungeon. He also had a fucking pet mini-dragon if you can believe that
Ah, moon druids. The very least balanced basic sourcebook subclass in 5th-edition by far, at earlier levels. I guess he was a variant human, too? Allowing access to a feat that would grant the familiar. Borrowing the psuedodragon option for a familiar from warlock pact of chain is a bit cheeky though. A druid isn't meant to have access to that. DM was asleep? That or just overly generous.
That's still a bit shit to tell you to hang back though. You still could've waded in and done damage. It's such a basic DMing thing to allow the players to have a part in battle as often as possible. Doesn't sound like a great group honestly.
My first time in D&D I played a chaotic-stupid barbarian gnome princess who thought trying to smash through a stone wall... a *cursed* stone wall... with a chain whip, was a *good* idea. I was super dumb, and my weapon broke, of course it did. The DM still, after enough are-you-sures, let me do it. Still found a way to get me another weapon before the next fight, and I still joined in with that fight. That's how it's done. You bend over backwards to include your players, that's what you're there for.
Enormous power imbalance between players is imo best nipped in the bud and said "no" to before it even happens, but if you've messed up and let it happen anyway, there are still plenty of ways to make up the difference. Give the underpowered ones some magic items that only work on their race or class. Give the overpowered ones a powerful enemy with a particular grudge against them specifically, or enemies that particularly go against their playstyle. Put a magical barrier between party members at the start of a fight. I mean these are not ideal things to do, but it's better than having players think they're just watching the game. Plenty of ways around it.
Or... in the case of a moon druid, just level everyone up very quickly! They really lose momentum as the levels scale up. By about level 5 or 6, they're on par with anyone and from then-on, gradually get a bit underpowered. That's not a super-high level to get your players to, and you can do it whenever you want. Have some wizard mess around with time and zap them to the future if it needs to be immediate. Have the party inadvertently take credit for an adventure some other in-game adventuring group actually did the work on. Again, plenty of options.
DMs ought to be a lot more creative against such pitfalls. Hope you didn't give up on it just from that one game?
@@Torthrodhel DM was EXTREMELY generous haha. The game was marketed to me, as a new player, as a taster of how DnD works and what its like to progress as a player. Therefore the DM was happy for our talented friend to deal tons of damage in combat. To be fair, it was cool as a new player to see what sort of damage and cool abilities could be unlocked. Also helped me understand combat mechanics.
@@xfmmanktwat9383 that sounds really neat. :) Glad it was cool. What kind of warrior were you, do you mean the "warrior" sidekick class or was it one of the full martial classes like fighter or barbarian?
Did he go into the restroom with the GM mid session and come out with the pet minidragon?
Starlight from "The Boys". Definitely took "inspiration". From The Angel Summoners outfit😮😂
Peep Show but with some magic powers and some BMX skills.
This is how D&D 5e feels
It's not, but it's a perfect analogy even if they didn't intend it to be.
This really might as well just be Wizard & Fighter. Right down to BMX Bandit having to be aided by Angel Summoner to make the jump across the gap.
this is one of my favorite sketches of theirs.
this is like when a wizard plays aside a rogue in 5e
"I could move to that tile and try to disarm the trap with my skills"
"or we could use a cantrip and do it without a check from 30 feet away"
"oh yeah alright"
it's a real testimony to your bmxing skills!!!!!
literally martials vs casters in D&D 5e
Sort of explains how I always felt about DC's "classic" Superman-Batman team.
I fourth that vote for giving Angel Summoner his own series, I thought that was hilarious!
Someone needs to cosplay this on the next comic con
D&D 5e martial Caster disparity in a nutshell.
this is a Superman/Batman teamup but y'all ain't ready for that conversation
after watching this, you will never look at superhero movies the same way again
Olivia Coleman in riding gear? Welp, time to add a new fetish to the list...
Who knew she would win an Oscar.
Shugar lumpsh.
“You did it. You broke down D&D 3.5 to its bare essentials”
Mumen Rider in its purest form.
When one party member is a min-maxer but still a bro