Holland & Holland's Paradox Gun
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ม.ค. 2022
- "A paradox, a paradox, a most ingenious paradox!"
Lt. Col. George Vincent Fosbery wanted a gun capable of firing both rifle rounds and shotgun rounds, but that left him in... a bit of a paradox. Rifle rounds need rifling and shotgun shot requires a smooth bore. What's a creative Brit to do?
The answer is Fosbery's Paradox gun. Patented in 1885 and produced quickly thereafter by London gunmaker Holland & Holland, the Paradox was a innovative thinking that would see use against small upland game birds, as well as the mighty African elephant.
This particular Paradox gun is more than just a patent. We'll cover its unusual rarity, its fantastic story, and the famous collection that housed it.
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How can they afford it
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Truly a masterpiece & just takes one's breath away!!!
Just a little information about Lt. Col. George Vincent Fosbery. He was a recipient of the Victoria Cross the British equivalent of the Congressional Medal of Honor.
"A paradox, a paradox, a most ingenious paradox!" Worth crediting the great W.S. Gilbert for the quote, from a trio in the second act of The Pirates of Penzance, music by Arthur Sullivan.
Gilbert mentioned specific firearms a few times in his comic opera librettos, the Chassepot rifle also originally named in this same work. (Later changed to the better known Mauser rifle.) In a later work, the Maxim Gun and Nordenfelt were referenced. Though Arthur Sullivan was more the sportsman than Gilbert, in practice.
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Absolutely gorgeous looking gun
A 160 pound Englishman carries his 16 pound rifle into the bush and shoots a 6000 pound elephant. Both the man and the Elephant are thrown the the ground.
Whomever gets up first is the winner. If neither get up, their material possessions are divided according the rules of the jungle.
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@@RockIslandAuctionCompany I'd love to say is mine...But I heard it somewhere.
that is a contest gun, once fired it is a contest to see who gets up first, the shooter or the targeted animal
Wow, beautiful firearm. From everything you were saying I was expecting the estimate to be in the 20-25k range. 9-14k seems like a bargain, not that I can afford it, lol, but still seems low for the rarity and condition.
Right? I did not expect that either.
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Thanks! It's an absolutely fascinating firearm.
Having had the pleasure of shouldering and firing a 375 H&H double rifle (not mine) I have some kind of idea of the quality of this Paradox beast. The phrase "works of art" comes to mind. As for the cost of this new in 1908 , £57 , or was it £58 back then? Was no small change. My first house, here in the UK, a 3 bedroom semi detached property, was built in 1919 . It's cost new, when built was £125. Which I think, puts costs into perspective. Fact is, high quality rifles from the likes of H&H have never been cheap, and whilst the actuall numbers regarding the cost over the years change , the cost in regard to incomes and other costs in life, pro rata , changes little. Good luck yo whomever purchases this rifle, must admit, I'm more than a little envious.
Thanks for the financial context. Interesting and makes it seem like the H&H is all that much more of a steal today.
That's very cool. I'm wondering what cartridge it chambered, besides the 20ga. shotshells.
Cool , great gun and great history 👍
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if we were only allowed one gun man this would be my choice bird or beast
wonderful shotgun !
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Would rifled slugs that we have today out perform the several inches of rifling ? It would be fun to see old results of Paradox gun..
I also wonder about the double trigger. In the book it clearly states single trigger, but the gun looks very much like a double trigger. It would be great if we could get an answer from Rock Island.
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I see what you did there. 😏
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Have I missed something - at 12:48 Number 2 Paradox s/n15883 is documented as being single trigger but the gun on display is double trigger??
That's what I thought....
With the level of thorough research in the Paradox book, I have little reason to doubt it. This Paradox may have been altered at some point (barring some sort of error by the authors or an error in the documentation at H&H). That said, I have not personally verified the original trigger configuration with the H&H factory.
Wouldn’t it make better sense to have one barrel rifled and one smooth bore ? Since it was to pull double duty
I've heard of a 'Paradox' gun, but never knew what it was. Now, here comes what may be a stupid question; What's the story regarding recoil?
You have the normal rearward recoil, or 'kick' upon firing, but what happens when the bullet suddenly slams, at about full velocity, into the rifling. Does impart a slight, or noticeable forward pulling impact on the gun, as if to cancel out the 'kick'?
If you think about it a moment. when a metal object moving at high speed down a barrel is suddenly met with a resistance as it engages the rifling, suddenly forcing it to spin and cutting into the bullets body. It is different to the almost immediate engaging of rifling with a normal rifle bullet, plus a regular rifle bullet has hardly moved any distance before it is then accelerated along the barrel.
Anyone know the answer?
Like a ordinary shotgun with Slug ammo or other shot ammo.
@@MrPh30 Hi, thanks for your reply. I do get the bit about 'shot' ammo, although you can't apply a spin to loose lead shot obviously, but when it comes to a big lead slug flying down the 'smoothbore' barrel and it then hits a rifled section and is forced to suddenly start rotating / spinning, I would imagine the sudden shock to the projectile must be enormous!
BTW, I've been shooting fullbore rifles for over 30 yrs and I just don't get this idea. Perhaps I'm missing something obvious here, and H&H sure as hell know what they're on about when it comes to firearms. Little wonder it's called a 'Paradox' eh?
All the best.
pity the gun does not match the book info [says in the book single trigger ,that gun is a double trigger]
The rear trigger could be a hair trigger when shooting rifle ammunition.
@@olesuhr727 yes its posible but unlikly on an english gun of this period as one of the main reasons for double triggers on shotguns/ paradox guns was to give you an instant choice of choke/load for varying situations plus if one barrel failed to fire you stil had a functioning firearm
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3:57...strange flare on the muzzle too, huh?
Wonder why this idea hasn’t been used since...
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Nice video sir thanks I have paradox army London Navy gun in India
Wouldn’t a double gun with ovoid rifling the serve the same purpose? I envision a barrel with a void rifling throughout its entire length would be more effective then regular rifling at the very end of a barrel of the same length.
Isn't that similar to the Lanchester rifling, like how a lot of Russian civvie guns are?
I wonder if anybody will have the money to buy one a Holland and Holland will probably cost you $100,000.
No telling how many they've sold. Probably wealthy collectors and die hard elegant hunters.
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Is this the same Paradox that you auctioned 3-ish years ago?
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What caliber bullet does it fire???
It’s 20 gauge
Only in the 1880s was a 8 bore be considered not big bore.
Back when men were men.
Is smokeless powder common for 19th century shotguns? I wonder if the large caliber was necessary for black powder loads?
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3:58 the barrel on the ride site is deformed ...
It’s not a screw head it’s a cocking indicator
Straight no twist "rifling = shotgun. "Rifling" to help with powder buildup, can use shot or slugs. Twisted rifling = Rifle. Solid projectiles only. Worthless with shot beyond 3 feet or so from the muzzle.
What did he mean by this?
Haha, 9-14k I seriously doubt that. What an amazing piece of history.
I was going to say the same thing. Bidding will blow past those figures in a heartbeat. They're just trying to lure bidders in thinking they may have a chance against the big money.
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I much rather have a Drilling as in a double barrel 12 gauge shotgun with something like 30-06 below in the middle.
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I'll tell you right now it'll sell for a LOT more than 9-14k
Rifle cartridge? Are you sure? The rifling was to spin the shotgun slug! A bulleted cartridge of shotgun size really?
Really! Check out a period advertisement @6:31 showing an example of the cartridge.
Where is the "Gun Jesus"?
Was it a success ... or did the Fosbery flop?
Incredible mistake. I have a Beretta 626 Side by Side 12 gauge magnum. Using rifled slugs it does a nice group in a 4" circle at 75 yards . I've taken white tail at 100 yards a couple times. With a 3 " mag it will stop just about anything. Nice bird gun too . One of the biggest mistakes in doubles are Over and Unders. No sense at all.
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So nobody with less than $400,000 should bid
Edit: either the guy who appraised this gun is high or somethings wrong with my ears, $9-14k?
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No one asked u about paradox gun so don't be glad
Too late.