As a Garden Designer, using SketchUp was very hard and taking way too much time with plug-ins and 3rd parties. Vectorworks made all the designing processes very easy and professional. Concept, Plans including (planting, irrigation, lighting, hardscape, soft, worksheets, sections, 3D views, easy communication with clients through links, etc, site modeling, shade analysis)
I have used both in different combinations to try and figure out the best workflow for me (it will vary for everyone) I was hoping to use VW for everything because it is more powerful by far and I find the layers, sheets, classes structure better than the way that Sketchup / layout works. However, for concept designing I found VW just too slow and not 'fluid' enough - too much wading through sub menus to find the setting that was causing a problem and too much clicking / entering values etc. Also I use a 3D mouse (3d Connexion) and this has always worked better in Sketchup.
Sketchup is not a parametric program, and that's where you end it...now they want 1 year of rent as much as you could pay for the perpetual version🤣😂 Vectorworks is in a class of its own.
Hi Fiona - Great video...I use AutoCAD clone for 2D work- that's what I was familiar with for many years, so found Vectorworks too different , and likewise mix it with Sketchup. Just have to decide on your own workflow. Although haven't used Layout to date, have booked myself on a Paul Hensey course for Layout to hopefully make a better decision on use it or lose it :)
I am learning Vectorworks at the moment in preperation for a masters in Urban design. I am finding the interface quite frustrating but I did find this with Sketchup when I first started. Does anyone else use vectorworks for urban design? Using it for context 3d models with bridges and topography?
Vectorworks will always be frustrating, its so complicated and with a lot of similar tools that behave just a little diffrent its hard to fully master it. even when using it daily
As an architect I would never use ‘toy’ software such as SketchUp. However as a piece of software for the amateur it works well enough providing you’re not expecting much. I suspect the same goes for any other true professional, use ‘toy’ software at you peril. SketchUp is fine for primary/secondary pupils or ‘product designers’. The reason I would never use it a professional? It is not BIM software without lots of expensive add-ons and I use BIM workflows for every project no matter how small and have done for about 20 years. SketchUp is not up to the job.
You are professional by program, but as architect you are not professional enough. Imagine I was your client, I dont care what software you use, what I want to see is how good you can assist and fulfill me. And the other important thisng is HOW FAST you can deliver it to me. As an architect, Archicad, Revit and Prota is my primary program. But at early stage, Sketchup will be my starting point, for concept, you know why? Because it FAST.
@@anterraarch , I use software that can do what SketchUp does. It is therefore faster as I do need to import the SketchUp model into different software to develop the planning and construction drawings. I use a software programme that links directly to my specification software (NBS Chorus) which speeds up the specification writing and is more accurate. I therefore do not need to use toy software.
@@johnkellett7797 You got me wrong, Sketchup use for 'concept' ( outer shell ), facade, design option ( easily switching various design facade / materials when presentation ). We use projector for presentation & discussion. Any project whether big or small must clarify this 2 thing 1st, 1 - concept 2 - rough budgetary. At this stage we dont need to play with any modelling parameter. After this 2 thing agreed by client, now we can talk about BIM software. I use Archicad link to Prota which doing structure analysis and auto generate reinforce. Or Revit link to Naviswork, Robot or Tekla. Take note.. no Autocad use in the whole workflow.
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As a Garden Designer, using SketchUp was very hard and taking way too much time with plug-ins and 3rd parties. Vectorworks made all the designing processes very easy and professional. Concept, Plans including (planting, irrigation, lighting, hardscape, soft, worksheets, sections, 3D views, easy communication with clients through links, etc, site modeling, shade analysis)
I have used both in different combinations to try and figure out the best workflow for me (it will vary for everyone)
I was hoping to use VW for everything because it is more powerful by far and I find the layers, sheets, classes structure better than the way that Sketchup / layout works. However, for concept designing I found VW just too slow and not 'fluid' enough - too much wading through sub menus to find the setting that was causing a problem and too much clicking / entering values etc. Also I use a 3D mouse (3d Connexion) and this has always worked better in Sketchup.
Sketchup is not a parametric program, and that's where you end it...now they want 1 year of rent as much as you could pay for the perpetual version🤣😂
Vectorworks is in a class of its own.
Thank you! This was such a helpful overview of both softwares… and specific to landscape design too. Much appreciated.
Hi Fiona - Great video...I use AutoCAD clone for 2D work- that's what I was familiar with for many years, so found Vectorworks too different , and likewise mix it with Sketchup. Just have to decide on your own workflow. Although haven't used Layout to date, have booked myself on a Paul Hensey course for Layout to hopefully make a better decision on use it or lose it :)
Great video!
I am learning Vectorworks at the moment in preperation for a masters in Urban design. I am finding the interface quite frustrating but I did find this with Sketchup when I first started. Does anyone else use vectorworks for urban design? Using it for context 3d models with bridges and topography?
Vectorworks will always be frustrating, its so complicated and with a lot of similar tools that behave just a little diffrent its hard to fully master it. even when using it daily
Hi Fiona, great video! But what vray version is used?
Hello, do you still teach classes for Sketchup?
Hi Fiona! Is some format of the symbols tools on Vector Works available on sketchUp?
As an architect I would never use ‘toy’ software such as SketchUp. However as a piece of software for the amateur it works well enough providing you’re not expecting much. I suspect the same goes for any other true professional, use ‘toy’ software at you peril. SketchUp is fine for primary/secondary pupils or ‘product designers’. The reason I would never use it a professional? It is not BIM software without lots of expensive add-ons and I use BIM workflows for every project no matter how small and have done for about 20 years. SketchUp is not up to the job.
Ever seen what Nick Sonder is doing with Sketchup?
So pretentious.
You are professional by program, but as architect you are not professional enough. Imagine I was your client, I dont care what software you use, what I want to see is how good you can assist and fulfill me. And the other important thisng is HOW FAST you can deliver it to me. As an architect, Archicad, Revit and Prota is my primary program. But at early stage, Sketchup will be my starting point, for concept, you know why? Because it FAST.
@@anterraarch , I use software that can do what SketchUp does. It is therefore faster as I do need to import the SketchUp model into different software to develop the planning and construction drawings. I use a software programme that links directly to my specification software (NBS Chorus) which speeds up the specification writing and is more accurate. I therefore do not need to use toy software.
@@johnkellett7797 You got me wrong, Sketchup use for 'concept' ( outer shell ), facade, design option ( easily switching various design facade / materials when presentation ). We use projector for presentation & discussion. Any project whether big or small must clarify this 2 thing 1st, 1 - concept 2 - rough budgetary. At this stage we dont need to play with any modelling parameter. After this 2 thing agreed by client, now we can talk about BIM software. I use Archicad link to Prota which doing structure analysis and auto generate reinforce. Or Revit link to Naviswork, Robot or Tekla. Take note.. no Autocad use in the whole workflow.