I'm trying to move from Autocad to move into more I'd say, "fixing" some designs I see in modern homes in my own opinionated way. How would my experience with Autocad transfer to Rhino? I do appreciate simplistic in a way buy ALL of my experience is in autocad but I also work in Blender but I can't imagine that transfers well since that is more 3d modeling
@@SpudEater Your move would be smooth because as an advanced user of both autocad and rhino i can say that a lot of commands are the same (rhino is command-based too). What you memorized won't go in vane. Plus, from my own perspective, Rhino is a lot smoother and "SMARTER" to draw with, and even to plot with. Blender is different, it's a polygon-based software and is not made for 2D even though it's starting to but it'll take a while. Rhino excels at 2D and is superb in 3D (both rectilinear and organic), so imagine yourself doing all in one program. I dumped autocad a long time ago and won't go back.
@issamraad8056 Thank you so much for the response, you inspired me to try it out and you were right! My time in autoCAD was a bit I'd say, holding on to what I knew and was comfortable with and I'm enjoying the new program!
10000000% disagree. Try making a shadow study in the others. Sketchup is perfect for schematic design. Addons make it even better. It’s quick and everyone uses it.
Sketchup is the best ever modeling software if u know how to use it , and download its necessary extensions, this is coming from a guy who worked years on rhino, 3ds max , and blender
@@AD-Domtotally disagree. It’s good for massing and that’s about it. Especially if you’re doing residential it’s not even a comparison. You can mass in other programs and be getting half your plan set done at the same time.
@@MA-xs4mjI’ve been using archicad and sketchup for 15 years. Revit and autocad for over 20. Softplan and chief for 2. Blender for 5 but mostly for jewelry or 3D printing design. I’ve also used vector works on occasion, 3d max and 20/20. I’ve also dabbled in most rendering programs like twin motion and lumion. Sketchup is not the best at all and I don’t understand the comment that everyone uses it. That’s not my experience at all. Most firms use revit or autocad for commercial because it’s seamless with mep and structural. For residential I find most use revit with softplan and chief architect coming in tied. Sketchup is the wonkiest of them all (only seconded by blender but it’s not really for architecture) and as a drafter turned bim manager turned designer with experience in structural, architecture (commercial and residential) and high end interior design (high rise and mid rise residential). As well as limited mep and civil. I know how these products perform on a level most don’t because for many years I was the person troubleshooting and implementing these for firms switching from 2d autocad. Sketchup is like the base level of power and I know how to use it. It’s also pretty bad at conversion when working with other disciplines with the exception of softplan.
I am a renown architect and I have been working with Microsoft paint for the last 20 years or so for my projects. God tier level of architecture software, second in line would be mario paint for me
At 6:20, I will say octane render is not a software, main software is Cinema4D. Also, at 8:10, you said Redshift which is actually Maya software. All these things shows that you have just done 1-2 day of research and giving opinion like you know all these softwares, even the videos you are showing about those softwares are just picked from some other youtube channels. If you have not used those softwares in your workflow then stop comparing them, you don't know how to best utilize them and why they still exist for their work.
you said, revit does everything, that archicad does. i'm struggling to find a feature to replace the workflow in archicad: create section > make worksheet > convert to individual elements > manually clean up everything in revit i only found ways to create details from scratch or draw over elements. some things are just way quicker to fix in 2d than to fix in 3d
im still using AutoCAD ->> SketchUp ->> Enscape ->> Photoshop(for some custom material that i need to pick from the construction site) im learning Revit now, its still 8% out off 100% i think, its complicated and using so much time on creating the family for what i need but hey, i just need to create one thing and can use it over and over later, but its amazing i wish you amazing people a great luck learning these software in the video for your work / hobby
I hated Revit the first time I used it because it felt so restricting without knowing how to make it do certain things.. but after using it both at uni and in the workplace - i'd rather use it over other software i've tried (rhino, sketchup, 3ds max etc). Once you have a good template with drawing views set up to develop over the various stages of a project directly as you model, you're bringing everything together at once - the fidelity of the drawings to the model coerces better modeling habits, and it can mock-up forms super fast with high levels of building information. You can just spray families you've created.
I use exactly your final workflow with the exception being that I begin in Sketchup as I mostly work on landscape projects rather than architectural structures. However, I have been considering leaving Enscape due to the lack of basic features that Twinmotion, Lumion and D5 have, D5 looks particularly enticing as I think it is the second fastest behind Enscape but the output quality is far higher - it's also much cheaper and has a larger asset library. I don't understand why the Chaos Group bought Enscape and then released Vantage when Enscape and V-ray provide everything you could want, plus it also irritates me that Enscape assets work in v-ray but you cannot use v-ray (Cosmos) assets in Enscape, if that was to become the case then Enscape would be untouchable in my line of work.
i do all my detailed interior modelling with revit and enscape. this combination alone can remove sketchup on the top. sketchup and autocad is just very very very slow.
US architect here! I use Chief Architect Monday - Friday and lli love it! However, i strictly only do residential work. I used CAD every day in school, and it was miserable. It wasn't until I was out of school and realized there were so many more options out there. I'm surprised you said CA was complicated and not user-friendly because it's way easier than CAD.
Autocad is what I learned on back in school but I also spent about 5 years on it lol. I swear I could boot that up now and still remember everything after a minute
there's literally no software that's as backwards and stupid in its UI than revit. In the grand scheme of things, revit is so garbage as a software that it actually produces ugly, vapid architecture.
For freelance work I use SU, plasticity, Blender, and Octane standalone. It’s not exactly a typical workflow but it’s powerful. AutoCAD / SU / Revit in office work, Revit is not my fave!
Bro is onto nothing. You do realize there are like 100s of free/paid addons to make architecture and even CAD workflows easy and fast in Blender and you really use Octane in this list which is just a renderer not a DCC in anyway.
I would agree with basically everything expect sketchup. Although it is very good, I just don't get why the viewport is so damn LAGGY. Whenever u work on medium or large projects it requires splitting it into multiple files because of lag...
@@xburtonboardnx aun en la v2024 el problema persiste, la mejora no es considerable. realice un proyecto de vivienda de dos niveles con casi todos los elementos interiores y se cerraba frecuentemente. por eso estoy experimentando con 3D max + Corona (o D5render para renders más rapidos y video recorridos).
Hey how did you deal with Blender not having lines and other geometric shapes? I really like the idea of blender and tried it for a while but it is just missing some essential tools for architectural modeling
No I think your ranking is not reliable. The blender take time to adjust the shading. But you couldn't say that is not efficient and put it to very low ranking. As a architecture student, I think blender makes very realistic renders but very flexible adjustments. And that flexible adjustments is the opportunity that you show your sense of aesthetic. Hope you could rank and comment all the software with some kind of evidences and detail information.
So you smashed Blender for not having architecture friendly features, but put Photoshop on a god list, and it has ZERO features for architecture drawing!!!!!!!!! Thanks, I consider your advice a complete nonsense.
Hey how did you deal with Blender not having lines and other geometric shapes? I really like the idea of blender and tried it for a while but it is just missing some essential tools for architectural modeling
Because he doesn't use PS for actual architectural modelling and more for post-processing. For rendering Blender is great, but it's mesh-based nature is just not meant for parametric modelling.
I used to work in sketch up, then i learned blender, now I find sketch up so complicated and messy, blender's modeling is so systematic and organized. Sketch up cant touch it. You havent given enough time to blender
Hey how did you deal with Blender not having lines and other geometric shapes? I really like the idea of blender and tried it for a while but it is just missing some essential tools for architectural modeling
@@issamraad8056 I think you didn't give enough time to Blender. Blender deals with lines and dots (They are called curves) and it's an excellent way to draw architectural 2D plans and do architectural modeling. I advice you 3 very useful add-ons for architectural projects in Blender : "Archipack", "Section Box" and "Dimensions and Lines". Blender is a very complex machine with an unbelievable number of features. As an architect and Light designer, I've been working on Blender for years and I haven't found a better option.
Last video I saw they said autocad arcitecture was the best invention after the weel, then Azemi sais autocad it the worst software in the universe. Someone must be wrong. Can someone clarify?
Only 6 of those are actually architural softwares, some part of it is just rendering software, and the last bit is you selling subscriptions. Where is ArchlineXP or Freecad, I know they are terrible, bus at least you can draw a floor plan on it.
Hy! I like to learn enscape from you course (I sure will), but is possible to use directly from ArchiCAD, and after finised rendering make a video kontent-presentation? P.S. What is you opinion about Maxwell?
putting 3ds max below sketchup is something that annoys me. as 3ds max user for more than 10 years and a sketchup user for more than 6 years i did not see that skp is better than max if you atleast put it equal maybe i will just ignore it.
it's because it is not efficient enough for architectural workflow. In rendering yes no doubt, the flexibility and the ability to do awesome renders no question, it is the 3dsmax but if put it to the world of architecture that software requires a lot of time to put on in order to learn compare to its competitor and it also requires quite powerful cpu's or laptops in order to use it unlike sketchup.
Please, revit does not do all the things Archicad does! Revit rendering is better thsn Archicad that is true but Archicad is way better and Ahead of Revit, revit is just simple than Archicad which makes it more popular, thats it.
All those softwares to create shit grey boxes. Come on Architects remember that the beautiful buildings of the past did not have computers. You can do much better.
@@gabrielduarte3904 name me a single reason why someone would use autoCAD except “I’m used to it and I don’t want to learn revit”. Using autoCAD is basically limiting yourself in sake of nothing.
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Dude you're underestimating Rhino... Rhino is KING it beats all when it comes to architectural modeling.
I'm trying to move from Autocad to move into more I'd say, "fixing" some designs I see in modern homes in my own opinionated way. How would my experience with Autocad transfer to Rhino? I do appreciate simplistic in a way buy ALL of my experience is in autocad but I also work in Blender but I can't imagine that transfers well since that is more 3d modeling
@@SpudEater Your move would be smooth because as an advanced user of both autocad and rhino i can say that a lot of commands are the same (rhino is command-based too). What you memorized won't go in vane. Plus, from my own perspective, Rhino is a lot smoother and "SMARTER" to draw with, and even to plot with. Blender is different, it's a polygon-based software and is not made for 2D even though it's starting to but it'll take a while. Rhino excels at 2D and is superb in 3D (both rectilinear and organic), so imagine yourself doing all in one program. I dumped autocad a long time ago and won't go back.
@issamraad8056 Thank you so much for the response, you inspired me to try it out and you were right! My time in autoCAD was a bit I'd say, holding on to what I knew and was comfortable with and I'm enjoying the new program!
@@SpudEater You're welcome, good to know you're enjoying it! Yes the more you learn rhino the more you fall in love.
3 years is too early to even learn 50% of what each softwares have to offer.
You lost me when you ranked Sketchup as a top tier Arc software. Bogus
10000000% disagree. Try making a shadow study in the others. Sketchup is perfect for schematic design. Addons make it even better. It’s quick and everyone uses it.
Sketchup is the best ever modeling software if u know how to use it , and download its necessary extensions, this is coming from a guy who worked years on rhino, 3ds max , and blender
@@AD-Domtotally disagree. It’s good for massing and that’s about it. Especially if you’re doing residential it’s not even a comparison. You can mass in other programs and be getting half your plan set done at the same time.
@@MA-xs4mjI’ve been using archicad and sketchup for 15 years. Revit and autocad for over 20. Softplan and chief for 2. Blender for 5 but mostly for jewelry or 3D printing design. I’ve also used vector works on occasion, 3d max and 20/20. I’ve also dabbled in most rendering programs like twin motion and lumion.
Sketchup is not the best at all and I don’t understand the comment that everyone uses it. That’s not my experience at all. Most firms use revit or autocad for commercial because it’s seamless with mep and structural. For residential I find most use revit with softplan and chief architect coming in tied.
Sketchup is the wonkiest of them all (only seconded by blender but it’s not really for architecture) and as a drafter turned bim manager turned designer with experience in structural, architecture (commercial and residential) and high end interior design (high rise and mid rise residential). As well as limited mep and civil. I know how these products perform on a level most don’t because for many years I was the person troubleshooting and implementing these for firms switching from 2d autocad.
Sketchup is like the base level of power and I know how to use it. It’s also pretty bad at conversion when working with other disciplines with the exception of softplan.
@@AD-Dom Might as well use Rhino+Grasshopper, easy to learn and extremely powerful.
I am a renown architect and I have been working with Microsoft paint for the last 20 years or so for my projects. God tier level of architecture software, second in line would be mario paint for me
Cant go wrong with something that comes free with your computer 🤷♂️
At 6:20, I will say octane render is not a software, main software is Cinema4D. Also, at 8:10, you said Redshift which is actually Maya software. All these things shows that you have just done 1-2 day of research and giving opinion like you know all these softwares, even the videos you are showing about those softwares are just picked from some other youtube channels. If you have not used those softwares in your workflow then stop comparing them, you don't know how to best utilize them and why they still exist for their work.
What are you talking about?! Octane Standalone is incredible. 😅
you said, revit does everything, that archicad does. i'm struggling to find a feature to replace the workflow in archicad: create section > make worksheet > convert to individual elements > manually clean up everything
in revit i only found ways to create details from scratch or draw over elements. some things are just way quicker to fix in 2d than to fix in 3d
Man stop zooming in and out constantly, makes it annoying for viewers to process / focus on what you're trying to show. Thanks for the review.
im still using AutoCAD ->> SketchUp ->> Enscape ->> Photoshop(for some custom material that i need to pick from the construction site)
im learning Revit now, its still 8% out off 100% i think, its complicated and using so much time on creating the family for what i need but hey, i just need to create one thing and can use it over and over later, but its amazing
i wish you amazing people a great luck learning these software in the video for your work / hobby
I hated Revit the first time I used it because it felt so restricting without knowing how to make it do certain things.. but after using it both at uni and in the workplace - i'd rather use it over other software i've tried (rhino, sketchup, 3ds max etc). Once you have a good template with drawing views set up to develop over the various stages of a project directly as you model, you're bringing everything together at once - the fidelity of the drawings to the model coerces better modeling habits, and it can mock-up forms super fast with high levels of building information. You can just spray families you've created.
I use exactly your final workflow with the exception being that I begin in Sketchup as I mostly work on landscape projects rather than architectural structures. However, I have been considering leaving Enscape due to the lack of basic features that Twinmotion, Lumion and D5 have, D5 looks particularly enticing as I think it is the second fastest behind Enscape but the output quality is far higher - it's also much cheaper and has a larger asset library. I don't understand why the Chaos Group bought Enscape and then released Vantage when Enscape and V-ray provide everything you could want, plus it also irritates me that Enscape assets work in v-ray but you cannot use v-ray (Cosmos) assets in Enscape, if that was to become the case then Enscape would be untouchable in my line of work.
i do all my detailed interior modelling with revit and enscape. this combination alone can remove sketchup on the top. sketchup and autocad is just very very very slow.
Do you pay for revit?
US architect here! I use Chief Architect Monday - Friday and lli love it! However, i strictly only do residential work. I used CAD every day in school, and it was miserable. It wasn't until I was out of school and realized there were so many more options out there. I'm surprised you said CA was complicated and not user-friendly because it's way easier than CAD.
Nice to see MS Paint getting recognition
The software has potential to be popular one day...
Autocad is what I learned on back in school but I also spent about 5 years on it lol. I swear I could boot that up now and still remember everything after a minute
I completely agree with you 👌👍 Revit+SketchUp+Enscape+Photoshop=ArchGod
In terms of making money, Revit is the King! From scratch to construction.
I use Sketchup, Sketchup layout and Morpholio trace on the Ipad Pro. All work good with each other.
I saw you put Revit in the bottom tier in the thumbnail and I was ready to throw hands haha! But at least it's above Archicad.
...which tells me it's a useless list.
there's literally no software that's as backwards and stupid in its UI than revit. In the grand scheme of things, revit is so garbage as a software that it actually produces ugly, vapid architecture.
what about D5 !!
On his multiverse, the best software; do not exist
@@Chesare2125 Excellent ! 🤣
Needs a path tracer. And better handling of extreme files.
For freelance work I use SU, plasticity, Blender, and Octane standalone. It’s not exactly a typical workflow but it’s powerful. AutoCAD / SU / Revit in office work, Revit is not my fave!
i wait for comparison of ENSCAPE VS D5....
hi can you do a video of how you work witk both archicad and scketchup? do you modelind an oblect on scketchup and import it to archicad?
It is very common practice for people who use both tools...
what about D5 render
Bro is onto nothing. You do realize there are like 100s of free/paid addons to make architecture and even CAD workflows easy and fast in Blender and you really use Octane in this list which is just a renderer not a DCC in anyway.
I would agree with basically everything expect sketchup. Although it is very good, I just don't get why the viewport is so damn LAGGY. Whenever u work on medium or large projects it requires splitting it into multiple files because of lag...
This was recently remedied. Give v2024 a shot!
@@xburtonboardnx aun en la v2024 el problema persiste, la mejora no es considerable. realice un proyecto de vivienda de dos niveles con casi todos los elementos interiores y se cerraba frecuentemente. por eso estoy experimentando con 3D max + Corona (o D5render para renders más rapidos y video recorridos).
How about Softplan? I think it is user friendly, but it is the only program I used.
I've used it. Not sure that I love it. It doesn't have all the capabilities I'd like.
MS PAINT - GOD TIER....
Blender 🔥
Hey how did you deal with Blender not having lines and other geometric shapes? I really like the idea of blender and tried it for a while but it is just missing some essential tools for architectural modeling
Which software would you recommend for landscape/hardscape design?
Vectorworks
Blender is the future, but Rhino is the present. Anything Autodesk is trash.
Would love to know how you would rank them on ability to be imported into AutoCAD. Good video!
Wow amazing thanks for the insight
i am thinking your brain is in your S. Ms Paint for architectural software, you put it in very good.
Sorry, but you've only just scratched the surface. There are lots of other cad programs out there that do architecture/BIM. Bricscad for one.
You totally forgot Allplan
No I think your ranking is not reliable. The blender take time to adjust the shading. But you couldn't say that is not efficient and put it to very low ranking.
As a architecture student, I think blender makes very realistic renders but very flexible adjustments. And that flexible adjustments is the opportunity that you show your sense of aesthetic.
Hope you could rank and comment all the software with some kind of evidences and detail information.
Grasshopper?Rhino.inside.revit??
For me, Lighting in enscape is very headachefull process. 😓
I mean if you tried every software, then where is d5 in your list?
So you smashed Blender for not having architecture friendly features, but put Photoshop on a god list, and it has ZERO features for architecture drawing!!!!!!!!! Thanks, I consider your advice a complete nonsense.
Hey how did you deal with Blender not having lines and other geometric shapes? I really like the idea of blender and tried it for a while but it is just missing some essential tools for architectural modeling
Because he doesn't use PS for actual architectural modelling and more for post-processing. For rendering Blender is great, but it's mesh-based nature is just not meant for parametric modelling.
I used to work in sketch up, then i learned blender, now I find sketch up so complicated and messy, blender's modeling is so systematic and organized. Sketch up cant touch it. You havent given enough time to blender
Hey how did you deal with Blender not having lines and other geometric shapes? I really like the idea of blender and tried it for a while but it is just missing some essential tools for architectural modeling
@@issamraad8056 I think you didn't give enough time to Blender. Blender deals with lines and dots (They are called curves) and it's an excellent way to draw architectural 2D plans and do architectural modeling. I advice you 3 very useful add-ons for architectural projects in Blender : "Archipack", "Section Box" and "Dimensions and Lines". Blender is a very complex machine with an unbelievable number of features. As an architect and Light designer, I've been working on Blender for years and I haven't found a better option.
Last video I saw they said autocad arcitecture was the best invention after the weel, then Azemi sais autocad it the worst software in the universe. Someone must be wrong. Can someone clarify?
Only 6 of those are actually architural softwares, some part of it is just rendering software, and the last bit is you selling subscriptions. Where is ArchlineXP or Freecad, I know they are terrible, bus at least you can draw a floor plan on it.
Revit is the BIM master.
paint got me
Well explained!
Microsoft Paint .. lol
Thanks man for the helo
Placing SketchUp above Blender and 3DS Max doesn't make sense. I believe your ranking is based on a rather superficial personal experience.
Hy! I like to learn enscape from you course (I sure will), but is possible to use directly from ArchiCAD, and after finised rendering make a video kontent-presentation?
P.S.
What is you opinion about Maxwell?
putting 3ds max below sketchup is something that annoys me. as 3ds max user for more than 10 years and a sketchup user for more than 6 years i did not see that skp is better than max if you atleast put it equal maybe i will just ignore it.
it's because it is not efficient enough for architectural workflow. In rendering yes no doubt, the flexibility and the ability to do awesome renders no question, it is the 3dsmax but if put it to the world of architecture that software requires a lot of time to put on in order to learn compare to its competitor and it also requires quite powerful cpu's or laptops in order to use it unlike sketchup.
maybe because its expensive and has steep learning curve
Please, revit does not do all the things Archicad does! Revit rendering is better thsn Archicad that is true but Archicad is way better and Ahead of Revit, revit is just simple than Archicad which makes it more popular, thats it.
Awesomeness
Glad you enjoyed 🙌🏻
Which is the fastest for generating 2d drawings?
microsoft paint👊
Sketchup with Layout is fast and has different line types.
Bah. Sketch up on the top over rhino? Wtf?
Bro uses sketchup
Try Excell.
All those softwares to create shit grey boxes. Come on Architects remember that the beautiful buildings of the past did not have computers. You can do much better.
Could you please STOP moving the screen around! OMG, it's so annoying!! 😫😤
Wow SketchUp
Hay please help ,where can I download these softwares where they won't need me to add any serial number
1337x
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autocad meh tier? this video is even worse than the other about rendering software.
only an autocad iliterate would rate it that way. shame
AutoCAD comparing to Revit/ArchiCAD is the same as comparing paint to photoshop. It’s just outdated
not knowing the full extent of what Autocad can do while comparing it with paint, is idiotic at best. @@AlexDaCherry
@@gabrielduarte3904 name me a single reason why someone would use autoCAD except “I’m used to it and I don’t want to learn revit”. Using autoCAD is basically limiting yourself in sake of nothing.
@@AlexDaCherry Revit is rigid and limits creativity. AutoCAD is outdated. we need something new, I trust Rhino will solve it over time
What a mess🤣
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Sketchup and ms paint in god tier.
This whole thing was just a troll bait.