Story of security breach, sure it wasn’t as scary as the previous fnaf games but like it had lots of charm and could be scary in its own way at times. First fnaf game besides fnaf world where the characters felt alive
There small game devs and just trying to make a living and the hate they get for trying to just make something thats trendy or what they found intresting is depressing
@@MrFell. still, it's not some completely awful thing to do, so that people go tell them to kill themselves. Besides, it's not even the first time someone does that, look at Bendy and the ink machine
It is 100% ok to not like a game and think it's garbage, but sending literal death threats to people just because they made something you didn't like is dumb and stupid.
Oh no, my parents got angry at me, what do I do? Burn down a forest! That'll remove my stress! -Gerome, who unknowingly demonstrated an example of a Freudian excuse to the protagonist
@@ElectrikStatik900 C'mon, I know the game sucked ass but writing like all the internet did was "shit on the game because it was bad" is just dumb This was harassment, which is never ok, and definitely not the appropriate response to 2 dumb kids making a bad ripoff game.
It sucks to be attacked for someone "creative" people may have misunderstood and gotten unreasonable angry over but i have to appreciate the message of "please dont tell people to **autobot transformation** themselves" 3:45
I find it hilarious more than anything the fact people hated this game so much they went out of their way to harass the two developers of this, my god if that doesn't show that our species is failing I don't what else is lmao. But of course I hope the two guys are alright.
Honestly any fanbase is full of terrible people. From the creeps and their detailed but messed up art to people who go out of the way to hate someone for something they worked hard on. Gaming as a fanbase has become unforgiving with toxic arrogant players or just dramatic idiots.
@@paulinxm8201 I mean like well other games not exactly this one. Did you know? People are getting canceled by pride supporters because they are playing the new Hogwarts game? (It's Harry Potter btw if you were wondering)
the devs dont deserve death threats but they are in no way clean. they have some really weird school shooter game that they made (currently making a sequel for) and they have proven to be unable to roll with geniuene criticism.
They definitely don't deserve the threats, but the combination of the copycat low quality game aimed at children with an immediate merch button, the game you described, and their response to criticisms really makes me not trust them.
What’s wrong with making a game about that? As long it’s not being disrespectful, It’s not like that’s something that has never been shown before. No Russian from MW2 comes to mind
Yknow the sad thing is I felt the same way with the bad apples of pizza tower community, basically gave me imposter syndrome. Yeah fr the bad apples in communities just bring it down
As bad as the game is no one deserves death threats. It is interesting that they weren't ready for this seeing as it's quite clearly a cash grab. They don't want to make a game they want money. The quality is quite clear.
@@Boiled_Pizza in my opinion, a school shooter sim game can work if it's supposed to be an artistic piece about the horrors of it or something and to me, any game, from any genre ever, shouldn't get this many death threats over it.
i had no idea that people were threatening the creators of this game, i honestly thought that this game was a cash grab and moved on with my day. wtf are people doing
The game was made to be a shameless cash grab, and somehow the players still managed to make themselves be the ones in the wrong. Congratulations gaming community.
I love how people give garten so much flack and hello neighbor is worse than it in every single way possible. It’s sequel while a small improvement is also disappointing and the creators lie on the whole advanced ai BULLCRAP. I’d rant on and on about why hello neighbor is the actual reason indie horror seems to be the way it is(even though people don’t realize things like Andy’s apple farm, Amanda the adventurer, shipwrecked 64, crow 64 and many others exist and those are recent.) while I do think it’s important to acknowledge the issues that’s noticeable with mascot horror as of recent, people should also acknowledge that there had been so many games as of recent that were also really good.
@@skelebonez1349 Hello Neighbor’s AI was true until one of the Alpha’s. Afterward they seemed to have just stopped updating it for the new house layout, and then removed it entirely. It’s a shame that they sacrificed the most interesting aspect that the game was going for, for the worst and janky aspect that people didn’t like.
@@Dr.Oofers that is fair, they were good in the alphas, but seeing how much stuff gets lost in translation and for them to back peddle again makes me lose my trust over anythint hello neighbor related
@@maro1139 that- I can’t argue that Honestly the only good thing I can give it is that garten if I remember was free while hello neighbor wasn’t, if anything hello neighbor was 30 bucks and buggier than some recent mascot horror games It’s sequel was 40 bucks and while I do think it fixes some issues, it still left me dissatisfied because it just didn’t do enough let alone actually doing the ai they promised to implement
From what I can tell These two lads are just tipping their toes into horror game making (explaining the absurdly simple creature designs and demo thingy) to see what sticks And then this happens. I feel so bad.
“Nooooo! How dare they sully the name my precious genre of horror games! You’re supposed to make NFTs for me to buy, and have a rocky development cycle that ends up with a super buggy game! How are my favorite 4M+ subs TH-camrs gonna enjoy it?!!!” - embryo with a phone
Ugh, death threats, the cheapest way to pretend one's tough when in reality, they're only showing how pathetic they are. If I ever did that kinda stuff, please send me to hell!
This is why I don't want to share things I make with everyone on the internet. "Ah yes, something I made happened to NOT please someone and now they're sending me death threats!" Like, they're just here to make a game to have fun. And it was free, too! If YOU don't like what someone else made, move on and find something you can enjoy. I really hope one day people can stop with this Twitter level of toxicity over literally nothing.
i have a question for you, and this is in no way to disagree with you or anything, but... did *you* like garden of banban? did you find anything in it fun or neat, atleast? i genuinely hate how this whole game is, but i'm not gonna send death threats over to the devs because of it, but... with everything else they've put out? they don't seem like they're getting any better, i heard that they don't accept criticism well, while it is in no way any worse than the people sending them death threats, the devs are kind of at fault as well.
@LucasMiddleNameandLastname22 No I didn't play Banban and I don't plan on it. Even if the games aren't great and they're not really accepting criticism it'll never be an excuse to send death threats. Simply choose to not play the games.
@deltapilot5730 ok good, yeah i agree, the reason why i ask is... well, here in Brazil, one of our content creators have been gifted the game, and after going along with it, started criticizing it, and the game's creators just BLOCKED them instantly, being unable to accept criticism, and that content creator was really pissed off over it, and while he played the latest one, he specifically said that he doesn't support any of the harassment that the devs are getting, because well, no one deserves that, but he also told the devs to get it together and start making a good game, or atleast accept criticism. TL:DR, the devs should change up their attitude, and maybe, JUST maybe people won't be as willing to dox them over this, i mean people will look for any excuse, so giving them excuses.... doesn't help, sorry to bother you with this, but i just had to get it out of my chest, have a good day!
Who would have thought that Garten of Ban Ban would be the final straw for Mascot Horror fans when we've seen much worse from "Poppy Playtime" and "Five Nights at Freddy's Security Breach".
Agreed. nobody deserves death threats. Also I’m just gonna say this and I feel it’s something people are glossing over on. Tiny build honestly deserves a lot of criticism and get called out for lying about the ai of the neighbor twice as well as making probably the actual worst mascot horror that has no value and actually costs money (30 bucks mind you.) over some mediocre game that’s at least FREE.
My take on this whole situation is that everyone is so happy when new indie horror games come out, so supportive and happy. But when you make the wrong type of game, then you get threatened by the whole internet.. If you look at the creators history of games, they've made mostly 2D games, and 1 other 3D game. Like of course its not gonna be for everyone, but i didn't mind it, i liked the game when i watched markiplier play it, i thought the bird was pretty scary! But people are tired of horror, and they don't get scared, and usually thats fine but people just keep calling it "the new worst game", 60%~ of youtubers making videos have the roughest meanest title for views, calling it mean names... Like have you seen the number of "bad" horror games that don't get this treatment, assetflips and silly ooga booga jumpscares, but this one is getting bad rep because "it's trying to be poppy playtime". Garten of banban, literally has shape characters, the most simple character design they could have (on purpose in my opinion) because they aren't trying to be like "heres this cool unique unforgettable mascot", they just wanted character for their video game. I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't keep going, if they stopped making games, because they're always gonna be known as the "garten of ban ban devs" It's so depressing, there probably will not be a chapter 2, and if there is people are gonna complain anyway, even worse if they try to get paid for their work. And selling merch? The thing that everyone on earth does, the "if you'd like to support me" option that isn't patreon.. maybe it is a cash grab, but then what? just keep going it doesnt matter, tons of games fail without ever being noticed anyway.
I agree with most of this, but centre point i absolutely disagree. Mascot horror, heck, ANY WELL KNOWN INDUSTRIES Need a main idea, an inspiration, to make the characters feel lively and to make them standout. By using circle tool and making a shape, you are not making a character. You see, the problem isn’t the simplicity, rather, the lack of inspiration. There’s no real scenario you can compare the characters to, unlike poppy playtime for example, where huggy wuggy is heavily based off of the monkey plushies with long arms. To say the least, yeah, the internet sucks, but the game doesn’t do us favor, lets not ignore that…
The worst thing you can do to someone making a bad game, is telling them nasty stuff like this. You know, if you people give actual criticism and not harass the people, they could take those things into account and fix or perhaps make a really good game. Harassing people only demotivates them to not make anything good at all, and all you're accomplishing by doing this is discouraging them from fixing their products, or demoralizing them to make worse products. It's literally a lose/lose situation.
The main reason this is happenig is because they put a merch store in a game demo. They just shot themselfs in the foot so lets not act like your getting harrased just for making a game. You can tell they care more about the money then the quality of the game. It its kinda shitty but i dont think anyone deserves to get death threats over something like that.
I feel very sorry for the tow guys who made Garten Of BanBan. Yes they made a mid game but really death threats. I think people need to go outside for once in there're pathetic life
Yeah, and keep in mind it’s just 2 brothers, there abilities may have been limited by themselves but imagine if they had actual modelers and extra coders to help maybe then it would have been an actually decent game
you see my method will be: paying a few people off to unplug some devices at specific locations if it goes well, the internet in atleast some places will be turned off as for social media? swarms of bots. like how people go all "lol games dying cuz bots i maek" except its for social media
nah, but i feel it could be effective if anyone were to besides, although its better for society if the process speeds up, its funny to watch the ongoing degredation of social media anyways
Thank you so much for posting this video! My for you page on TH-cam has just been plastered with people sh*ting on this game way too much. I agree, there is no reason for anyone to hate on this game as much as they do.
i freaking wish the creator of the Velma show actually gets attention of the criticism she's received, and actually makes a decent fair amount of episodes for the show down the line. the start of everything was so absolutely horrendous it's funny
I honestly hate how people use 'autistic' as an insult. being neurodivergent myself, I've come across a lot of hate because I'm less socially intelligent. (btw I'm mentioning this because one of the messages at 2:52 uses autistic as an insult.)
Admitedly, they created an unoriginal, subpar, plain, and uninteresting game, aiming only to make money from merch; that's that. But going out of your way to harass the developers isn't the right call.
its so sad to see how easy it is for these people to just type out whatever hateful shit and send it to some poor person minding their business, and recieve 0 backlash or consequence for doing so..
it's just so strange how people get so upset over something like this they feel the need to harass and attack others. like, this means virtually nothing in the grand scheme of things. even if you don't like the game the more practical option is to just. go outside. play a video game you DO like. take your mind off of it. something, ANYTHING more productive then stewing in your misery.
The game itself, even if it is a parody of the genre, preys upon it's demographic with merch. They are basically trying to create a situation where they cannot lose - if people hate them, they will call it an "artistic piece", a caricature of currently most popular sub-genre of horror games. If people love it, even if ironically, they will get money off the merch. Sure, the merch button in the menu is the cherry on top if the game tries to present itself as a parody but damn doesn't it kinda suck if some kids really do try giving them money. Ofcourse that doesn't justify death threats lmao but you gotta try looking at it from different perspective, other than "people hate us cuz we made a bad game" kinda black and white scenario.
i said this on another comment but again, nevermind the fact that they made a game essentially glorifying school shootings and were planning to make a sequel to it. death threats still arent justified but just knowing about that and foekoe acting like they were completely innocent just kinda pissed me off
@@Drishby it's true, i searched it up, it's called "Introvert: a Teenager Simulator". i feel a little shocked... unfortunately, i cannot view the full page as it is possibly age restricted and have no idea what it's all about...
@@Drishby “gen z humour” is a tag for it and it has some of the most corny voice acting known to man. not to mention the game is apparently about you fighting werewolves and collecting fedoras
i reccomend you a little horror game i found called "Scanner Sombre", its very spooky and it ca get you really good sometimes, and if you do get to a lake in it, dont stay in the water for too long :)
Famous TH-camr: this game is bad that's my opinion Fans: understood master, i will threat and harass the creator of this pile of garbage until it gets cancelled.
The reason Garten of Banban "sucks" so bad is because people are expecting a major well put together well polished title from what's merely a small free indie horror game with literally no reasonable budget, large enough devteam, or time to work on it. Its not the fall of mascot horror its just another one of the indie games people put out. Not everything is some major indie horror title like Poppy Playtime or fnaf and people need to learn that.
Do you know about the poppy playtime controversy? You know, that one where the creators made an entire youtube channel dedicated to harrasing some animator that didn't want to join them? Or the one where they stole the idea for poppy playtime from the same animator, which was (I'm pretty sure) a minor?
Indie Dev creates Mid Horror Game Demo: Gamers send death threats AAA Team creates a buggy awful nostalgia-bait game with Literal Blood Libel: Gamers fellate them and cry and shit their pants if you dare suggest not spending $70 on it Makes sense.
I feel so bad for the brothers. The fact they are getting death threats and harrasments non stop really makes me feel sad for them. You may not like it but that isn’t an excuse to say horrible things to cancel them why has this community been so toxic recently. The people who send these death threats to game owners who made a game they dont like are the 0.01% of bacteria the hand sanitizer cant remove
the internet be like: "hrm i do not like this thing, and i could just ignore it... time to send death threats to the random dude who made it!" the same thing happened with that jellybean youtuber a while back
The reason that people are harassing the brothers is because they did some pretty bad things in the past. Not because of garten of banban. But the brothers made a game called introvert and its about you and your introvert friend who's about going to shoot up your school and you have to stop him and to stop him you have to be friends and make more friends for him and they say that this is relateable to gen z and it isnt. And the rabbit hole keeps going on. But if you want more info then look on the garten of banban iceberg.
Not the biggest lover to Garten of Banban but c'mon death threats.. REALLY!?!?!? Unbelievable, like they need to leave them alone. Anyone can criticize it, hate it, leave a bad review but they should never ever EVER harass them or even send death threats. Those people are immature and disgusting!!
The thing is... They have a point with the hate. I don't condone death threats or harassment. But they deserve all hate and criticism for obviously just wanting to squeeze as much money out of stupid children as possible. Wich is horrible... But don't harass and threat them, don't makes them victims. Give them their well deserved criticism, but not abuse them.
The toxic mascot horror community is scarier than garten of ban ban
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There is not a single thing that isn't scarier than garten of ban ban.
garten of ban ban doesnt have any horror, while children. Children are terrifying
thats not saying much
bro even PICKLES are scarier that garten of banban
"You don't have to send death threats over a bad game"
-Literally anyone with a brain
Also known as nobody.
how can the brain rot go this far
edit: sorry just realized something without matter can’t rot
Do you think twitter has a brain?
@@ZeusMakesDoodles honestly none of them dont have one
@@Pyrodiacsmartest youtube commenter
Imagine harassing someone over something as petty as someone making a horror game you don’t find scary
It happens more often than we want to think
couldn't be me
at this point, i always end up seeing that profile picture everytime i go to a video
Story of security breach, sure it wasn’t as scary as the previous fnaf games but like it had lots of charm and could be scary in its own way at times. First fnaf game besides fnaf world where the characters felt alive
calling Garten a "horror game" is an insult to horror games
I may not like Garten of Banban, but I would not HARASS the creators of a game they made, that’s just immature to do
There small game devs and just trying to make a living and the hate they get for trying to just make something thats trendy or what they found intresting is depressing
@@NITRO_NIK exactly, can you despise that much these people for just trying to make something that's trendy?? That's like the most human thing ever
Yeah me too
@@David-yk5tq I think the actual problem would be them gaining money by borrowing multiple unoriginal ideas and selling merch about that, ya know?
@@MrFell. still, it's not some completely awful thing to do, so that people go tell them to kill themselves. Besides, it's not even the first time someone does that, look at Bendy and the ink machine
People really went from destructive criticism to literally inventing nuclear criticism.
_"Nuclear Criticism..."_ Saving that for a later conversation.
heat death of the universe criticism
@@A_penguin_from_matmart4928 Nah, it's gotta be something even worse..
..
*_Chernobyl Criticism._*
@@quotetry8998 the same
Tsar Criticism
It is 100% ok to not like a game and think it's garbage, but sending literal death threats to people just because they made something you didn't like is dumb and stupid.
"i dont like this food im going to send death threats to the chef"
Oh no, my parents got angry at me, what do I do?
Burn down a forest! That'll remove my stress!
-Gerome, who unknowingly demonstrated an example of a Freudian excuse to the protagonist
"I hated this movie!! I'm totally going to send death threats and dox every single person who was involved in the movie now!!😡"
Literal death threats as opposed to figurative death threats? As though they were a thing.
it's just death threats It's not a big deal
Pizza tower gameplay 10/ 10
The internet is a really cruel and disgusting place you cant give death treats 2 people for doing a bad game
the worst part is how much i bet they would lose in the fist fight
@@Daveeemichel nah bro the fact the bird slowly walks up to you is so uniquely scary
@@findot777 i meant the ppl criticising but thats true
This video in a nutshell.
@@Daveeemichel we can go and test that theory on them
gamers trying not to send death threats to developers for 0.0021 seconds (impossible)
Gamers going out of their way to shit on a game that was obviously made to capitalize off of kids horror games:
@@ElectrikStatik900 that's fair but people going out of their way to send actual DEATH THREATS over a crappy game makes them stupider
@@ElectrikStatik900 C'mon, I know the game sucked ass but writing like all the internet did was "shit on the game because it was bad" is just dumb
This was harassment, which is never ok, and definitely not the appropriate response to 2 dumb kids making a bad ripoff game.
Okay I am in 0.00001 seconds into the challenge I got thi- GO HANG YOUR SELF THE CREATORS OF GARTEN OF BAN BAN.
(Sarcasm if you couldn't tell.)
just ask cd projekt
It sucks to be attacked for someone "creative" people may have misunderstood and gotten unreasonable angry over but i have to appreciate the message of "please dont tell people to **autobot transformation** themselves" 3:45
Is it just me or I also thought of the same sound as well
I will now use that as a replacement for the original
I find it hilarious more than anything the fact people hated this game so much they went out of their way to harass the two developers of this, my god if that doesn't show that our species is failing I don't what else is lmao.
But of course I hope the two guys are alright.
Honestly any fanbase is full of terrible people. From the creeps and their detailed but messed up art to people who go out of the way to hate someone for something they worked hard on. Gaming as a fanbase has become unforgiving with toxic arrogant players or just dramatic idiots.
@@chillbizz74 Ehh... I wouldn't say they worked hard on garten of banban. But yeah, it's pretty much that.
@@paulinxm8201 I’d say they had it coming to them. They made a school shooter sim, after all.
@@minidreadproductions2566 WAT
@@paulinxm8201 I mean like well other games not exactly this one. Did you know? People are getting canceled by pride supporters because they are playing the new Hogwarts game? (It's Harry Potter btw if you were wondering)
the devs dont deserve death threats but they are in no way clean. they have some really weird school shooter game that they made (currently making a sequel for) and they have proven to be unable to roll with geniuene criticism.
even then don't send death threats to them and harass them
@@Snowmaninadesert of course not.
They definitely don't deserve the threats, but the combination of the copycat low quality game aimed at children with an immediate merch button, the game you described, and their response to criticisms really makes me not trust them.
Totally deserved lmao
Deal with it
What’s wrong with making a game about that? As long it’s not being disrespectful, It’s not like that’s something that has never been shown before. No Russian from MW2 comes to mind
Yknow the sad thing is I felt the same way with the bad apples of pizza tower community, basically gave me imposter syndrome.
Yeah fr the bad apples in communities just bring it down
I have not seen any bad apples of Pizza Tower, what do THOSE chucklenuts happen to be like
@@brothermanbologna5260 pretty damn bad as far as I know, I've seen it
How does Pizza Tower even have bad apples? It's Just a silly little goofy game
Some stuff not as bad, but still petty are the guys who hate hi fi rush because its not in playstation or something.
@@sabianaum7263 you would be surprised if you knew some people can be that unhinged.
As bad as it is that the devs recieve such toxicity, the way they handled the actual backlash to their game was just as petty.
Handling your game backlash is one thing, sending literal death threats over a bad game is another
I wouldn't say "just as", it IS bad but the death threats are objectively worse.
As bad as the game is no one deserves death threats. It is interesting that they weren't ready for this seeing as it's quite clearly a cash grab. They don't want to make a game they want money. The quality is quite clear.
death threats are too much unless someone made school shooter sim, and even then it's still feels excessive
@@Boiled_Pizza in my opinion, a school shooter sim game can work if it's supposed to be an artistic piece about the horrors of it or something and to me, any game, from any genre ever, shouldn't get this many death threats over it.
@@WokioWolfy The euphoric brother made one that was very insensitive, and are making a sequel.
@@WokioWolfy it's anything but that, it tries to be a comedy
Man people take shit too seriously sometimes. That sucks
i had no idea that people were threatening the creators of this game, i honestly thought that this game was a cash grab and moved on with my day. wtf are people doing
Love that pizza tower has been the go-to background footage. Hate everything else going on in the video though.
Is this a hate comment?
@@anonymouslucario285 no, he simply states that the current situation going on Twitter is pretty bad and liked the entertaining Pizza Tower footage
@@AltKaxREAL yeah, love foekoes content but I hate what's going on with the controversy
It does not unless your talking about that weird let’s play that had jump scare’s because those are not in the game.
The game was made to be a shameless cash grab, and somehow the players still managed to make themselves be the ones in the wrong. Congratulations gaming community.
I love how people give garten so much flack and hello neighbor is worse than it in every single way possible.
It’s sequel while a small improvement is also disappointing and the creators lie on the whole advanced ai BULLCRAP. I’d rant on and on about why hello neighbor is the actual reason indie horror seems to be the way it is(even though people don’t realize things like Andy’s apple farm, Amanda the adventurer, shipwrecked 64, crow 64 and many others exist and those are recent.) while I do think it’s important to acknowledge the issues that’s noticeable with mascot horror as of recent, people should also acknowledge that there had been so many games as of recent that were also really good.
@@skelebonez1349 Hello Neighbor’s AI was true until one of the Alpha’s. Afterward they seemed to have just stopped updating it for the new house layout, and then removed it entirely.
It’s a shame that they sacrificed the most interesting aspect that the game was going for, for the worst and janky aspect that people didn’t like.
@@Dr.Oofers that is fair, they were good in the alphas, but seeing how much stuff gets lost in translation and for them to back peddle again makes me lose my trust over anythint hello neighbor related
@@skelebonez1349 littleraly trash vs garbage
@@maro1139 that- I can’t argue that
Honestly the only good thing I can give it is that garten if I remember was free while hello neighbor wasn’t, if anything hello neighbor was 30 bucks and buggier than some recent mascot horror games
It’s sequel was 40 bucks and while I do think it fixes some issues, it still left me dissatisfied because it just didn’t do enough let alone actually doing the ai they promised to implement
“Calm down son, it’s just a video game”
From what I can tell
These two lads are just tipping their toes into horror game making (explaining the absurdly simple creature designs and demo thingy) to see what sticks
And then this happens.
I feel so bad.
i like how theyre angry that its not scary when it was made as a joke
Was it tho?
@anentirecalamity2265 no, most likely not, but still I don't feel like it deserves death threats
people saying that it was made as a joke is a coping mechanism to deal with the fact that there are games like this made unironically
The true horror game: Twitter.
“Nooooo! How dare they sully the name my precious genre of horror games! You’re supposed to make NFTs for me to buy, and have a rocky development cycle that ends up with a super buggy game! How are my favorite 4M+ subs TH-camrs gonna enjoy it?!!!” - embryo with a phone
Ugh, death threats, the cheapest way to pretend one's tough when in reality, they're only showing how pathetic they are. If I ever did that kinda stuff, please send me to hell!
Well that escalated quickly
This is why I don't want to share things I make with everyone on the internet.
"Ah yes, something I made happened to NOT please someone and now they're sending me death threats!"
Like, they're just here to make a game to have fun. And it was free, too! If YOU don't like what someone else made, move on and find something you can enjoy.
I really hope one day people can stop with this Twitter level of toxicity over literally nothing.
Just share something in anonimity or don't leave any public way to contact you directly
i have a question for you, and this is in no way to disagree with you or anything, but... did *you* like garden of banban? did you find anything in it fun or neat, atleast?
i genuinely hate how this whole game is, but i'm not gonna send death threats over to the devs because of it, but... with everything else they've put out? they don't seem like they're getting any better, i heard that they don't accept criticism well, while it is in no way any worse than the people sending them death threats, the devs are kind of at fault as well.
@LucasMiddleNameandLastname22 No I didn't play Banban and I don't plan on it. Even if the games aren't great and they're not really accepting criticism it'll never be an excuse to send death threats. Simply choose to not play the games.
@deltapilot5730 ok good, yeah i agree, the reason why i ask is... well, here in Brazil, one of our content creators have been gifted the game, and after going along with it, started criticizing it, and the game's creators just BLOCKED them instantly, being unable to accept criticism, and that content creator was really pissed off over it, and while he played the latest one, he specifically said that he doesn't support any of the harassment that the devs are getting, because well, no one deserves that, but he also told the devs to get it together and start making a good game, or atleast accept criticism.
TL:DR, the devs should change up their attitude, and maybe, JUST maybe people won't be as willing to dox them over this, i mean people will look for any excuse, so giving them excuses.... doesn't help, sorry to bother you with this, but i just had to get it out of my chest, have a good day!
Irony how the toxic Indie horror community is scarier than the garden of banban
Glad to see Fokoe is enjoying Pizza Tower, that game has an amusing artsyle.
The game's style is literally my favourite artstyle
Now I don't mean this in a bad way, but it looks greasy
It's amazing that the devs managed to convey such grease
Great work to the graphics artists
The game was inspired by wario specifically wario land 4 if it helps
@@Th3_Sp4Ce_M0nK3y theres literally a character named greaseball
@@Th3_Sp4Ce_M0nK3y it DOES look greasy, i'm pretty sure greasy could count as a art style.
Just imagine making a sandwich without pickles when the customer ordered pickles, and the customer tells you they want you to rot in hell
Garten of Banban makes Rainbow Friends look like the scariest thing ever made.
Who would have thought that Garten of Ban Ban would be the final straw for Mascot Horror fans when we've seen much worse from "Poppy Playtime" and "Five Nights at Freddy's Security Breach".
Honestly it is truly disgusting on what people do. I agree completely with this video. Now twitter users. Do your worst.
And I don't even use twitter.
"Oh no some 2 brothers tried to make a video game time to commit war crimes against them"
As someone who wants to make it big out there, THIS, is exactly why I only post things to my most trustworthy friends.
It feels like forever and i found somebody defending the brothers over the death threat situation other than me on youtube.
garten of banban is terrifying, but there’s one thing scarier…
DEATH THREATS!
Wouldn't say that the first one is scary lol.
“Dude i think its best that we never make a mascot horror game in the future.”
“Good call.”
The the 2nd game came out for $6 and its not worth $6 and then they complained that people were able to finish the game and refund it
"Videogames don't cause violence"
The internet:
I hate Garten of BanBan with all my soul, but still, sending death threats to two guys just because they made a mediocre game is too much.
Agreed. nobody deserves death threats.
Also I’m just gonna say this and I feel it’s something people are glossing over on. Tiny build honestly deserves a lot of criticism and get called out for lying about the ai of the neighbor twice as well as making probably the actual worst mascot horror that has no value and actually costs money (30 bucks mind you.) over some mediocre game that’s at least FREE.
How pathetic do you have to be to send death threats to 2 brothers who made a indie game.
My take on this whole situation is that everyone is so happy when new indie horror games come out, so supportive and happy. But when you make the wrong type of game, then you get threatened by the whole internet..
If you look at the creators history of games, they've made mostly 2D games, and 1 other 3D game. Like of course its not gonna be for everyone, but i didn't mind it, i liked the game when i watched markiplier play it, i thought the bird was pretty scary!
But people are tired of horror, and they don't get scared, and usually thats fine but people just keep calling it "the new worst game", 60%~ of youtubers making videos have the roughest meanest title for views, calling it mean names... Like have you seen the number of "bad" horror games that don't get this treatment, assetflips and silly ooga booga jumpscares, but this one is getting bad rep because "it's trying to be poppy playtime".
Garten of banban, literally has shape characters, the most simple character design they could have (on purpose in my opinion) because they aren't trying to be like "heres this cool unique unforgettable mascot", they just wanted character for their video game.
I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't keep going, if they stopped making games, because they're always gonna be known as the "garten of ban ban devs" It's so depressing, there probably will not be a chapter 2, and if there is people are gonna complain anyway, even worse if they try to get paid for their work.
And selling merch? The thing that everyone on earth does, the "if you'd like to support me" option that isn't patreon.. maybe it is a cash grab, but then what? just keep going it doesnt matter, tons of games fail without ever being noticed anyway.
This comment needs more attention
I agree with most of this, but centre point i absolutely disagree.
Mascot horror, heck, ANY WELL KNOWN INDUSTRIES Need a main idea, an inspiration, to make the characters feel lively and to make them standout. By using circle tool and making a shape, you are not making a character. You see, the problem isn’t the simplicity, rather, the lack of inspiration. There’s no real scenario you can compare the characters to, unlike poppy playtime for example, where huggy wuggy is heavily based off of the monkey plushies with long arms.
To say the least, yeah, the internet sucks, but the game doesn’t do us favor, lets not ignore that…
Very good points. Tho sometimes i do think that character design isn't always as important.
3:47 when ur running out of hunger in minecraft
0:18 "the internet is an evil and disgusting place" my brother in christ you are on it daily
People on the internet can't criticize the flaws of the internet now?
The worst thing you can do to someone making a bad game, is telling them nasty stuff like this. You know, if you people give actual criticism and not harass the people, they could take those things into account and fix or perhaps make a really good game. Harassing people only demotivates them to not make anything good at all, and all you're accomplishing by doing this is discouraging them from fixing their products, or demoralizing them to make worse products. It's literally a lose/lose situation.
The main reason this is happenig is because they put a merch store in a game demo. They just shot themselfs in the foot so lets not act like your getting harrased just for making a game. You can tell they care more about the money then the quality of the game. It its kinda shitty but i dont think anyone deserves to get death threats over something like that.
I barely heard what you were saying the pizza tower gameplay is straight up hypnotic 😭
They commited a crime of making a bad game. Death sentence.
@⋆ 𝖈𝖎𝖓𝖓𝖆𝖒𝖔𝖓! ⋆ I know right? It's just a game but the internet just has to harrass random game devs
I feel very sorry for the tow guys who made Garten Of BanBan. Yes they made a mid game but really death threats. I think people need to go outside for once in there're pathetic life
Yeah, and keep in mind it’s just 2 brothers, there abilities may have been limited by themselves but imagine if they had actual modelers and extra coders to help maybe then it would have been an actually decent game
Angry blue bird users jumpscare
I can’t take this seriously with the pizza tower background gameplay. Peppinos face is killing me.
things like this make me want to personally *shut down the internet*
or atleast just social media
How do you plan on doing that?
you see
my method will be: paying a few people off to unplug some devices at specific locations
if it goes well, the internet in atleast some places will be turned off
as for social media? swarms of bots. like how people go all "lol games dying cuz bots i maek" except its for social media
@@indeepjable are you genuinely planning on doing this
nah, but i feel it could be effective if anyone were to
besides, although its better for society if the process speeds up, its funny to watch the ongoing degredation of social media anyways
Thank you so much for posting this video! My for you page on TH-cam has just been plastered with people sh*ting on this game way too much. I agree, there is no reason for anyone to hate on this game as much as they do.
Bo this game sucks ass foekoe even said its crap
Some studios have picked up on using that hate as a weapon
*Looking at you Velma*
i freaking wish the creator of the Velma show actually gets attention of the criticism she's received, and actually makes a decent fair amount of episodes for the show down the line. the start of everything was so absolutely horrendous it's funny
didn't even let us see whether the level actually got a P rank or not this is devilish
I honestly hate how people use 'autistic' as an insult. being neurodivergent myself, I've come across a lot of hate because I'm less socially intelligent.
(btw I'm mentioning this because one of the messages at 2:52 uses autistic as an insult.)
"oh no, this bad example of an indie horror game isnt entertaining me."
"i definetly have to send death threats and harass the creators for it"
The first TH-camr I've seen using Pizza Tower footage for a background!
GOD I LOVE THE INTERNET
I FUCKING LOVE BEING ABLE TO DO THE SMALLEST THINGS
AND BE TOLD TO "KAY WAI ESS" FOR DOING SO.
I hate this garten of banban as much as the next guy but damn isn't death threats too much
Admitedly, they created an unoriginal, subpar, plain, and uninteresting game, aiming only to make money from merch; that's that. But going out of your way to harass the developers isn't the right call.
its so sad to see how easy it is for these people to just type out whatever hateful shit and send it to some poor person minding their business, and recieve 0 backlash or consequence for doing so..
God i feel like the dark web is more safer than the real internet
Eh. Not really
i have no idea how someone can get so mad over something on the internet they will go out of their way to harass people
another example of bad apples : people who gave pizza tower a bad review cuz it was too complicated for their ape brains
I wanna play that game, it looks so good and hilarious.
What’s more annoying is that the 1% of society outcasts are the most vocal ones
Honestly, in my opinion, I think Baldi's Basics has transcended the realm of horror, and is somewhat becoming a roguelike (with horror elements).
Baldi’s appeal never was the horror tbh, it was the shitposting and the challenge of winning the game
@@schedark exactly.
"I'm sending a pipe bomb to your house" got me bruh 💀
a literal chair is scarier than garten of banban
Foekoe: Give feedback to the developers on Steam.
Euphoric Brothers: NOPE.
it's just so strange how people get so upset over something like this they feel the need to harass and attack others. like, this means virtually nothing in the grand scheme of things. even if you don't like the game the more practical option is to just. go outside. play a video game you DO like. take your mind off of it. something, ANYTHING more productive then stewing in your misery.
for some reason the video just stopped at the first frame of the goofy ahh explosion and i did a little chuckle ty
The game itself, even if it is a parody of the genre, preys upon it's demographic with merch. They are basically trying to create a situation where they cannot lose - if people hate them, they will call it an "artistic piece", a caricature of currently most popular sub-genre of horror games. If people love it, even if ironically, they will get money off the merch.
Sure, the merch button in the menu is the cherry on top if the game tries to present itself as a parody but damn doesn't it kinda suck if some kids really do try giving them money.
Ofcourse that doesn't justify death threats lmao but you gotta try looking at it from different perspective, other than "people hate us cuz we made a bad game" kinda black and white scenario.
i said this on another comment but again, nevermind the fact that they made a game essentially glorifying school shootings and were planning to make a sequel to it. death threats still arent justified but just knowing about that and foekoe acting like they were completely innocent just kinda pissed me off
@@ButterBlaziken230 Glorified school shootings how?
@@Drishby it's true, i searched it up, it's called "Introvert: a Teenager Simulator".
i feel a little shocked... unfortunately, i cannot view the full page as it is possibly age restricted and have no idea what it's all about...
@@Drishby “gen z humour” is a tag for it and it has some of the most corny voice acting known to man. not to mention the game is apparently about you fighting werewolves and collecting fedoras
I like how this video restates already known information helps for people who are late to drama
Dang it sucks when people take this stuff too seriously, no one deserves to be harassed like this
i had to watch this video twice, the first time was just me watching the pizza tower gameplay
This reminds me of a certain wizard game...
i reccomend you a little horror game i found called "Scanner Sombre", its very spooky and it ca get you really good sometimes, and if you do get to a lake in it, dont stay in the water for too long :)
Famous TH-camr: this game is bad that's my opinion
Fans: understood master, i will threat and harass the creator of this pile of garbage until it gets cancelled.
3:47 when I turn on the meat grinder
Dang, people are so cozy with their lives that all it takes is a bad video game to make them this violently upset.
The reason Garten of Banban "sucks" so bad is because people are expecting a major well put together well polished title from what's merely a small free indie horror game with literally no reasonable budget, large enough devteam, or time to work on it. Its not the fall of mascot horror its just another one of the indie games people put out. Not everything is some major indie horror title like Poppy Playtime or fnaf and people need to learn that.
I'm gonna be honest, midway through I kinda spaced out and focused on the Pizza Tower background footage.
furry
@@jamesthegoo7600 and what else?
@@bluntshooter roblox player
@@jamesthegoo7600 youre right
but what else?
@@bluntshooter something else
Toxicity is pretty much unavoidable but at least we can still remind people who have brains to not do the wrong thing
I guess because the "cute but evil mascot game devs" are typically boring or way to similar but death threats and more is way too over board
Imagine sending death threats and not going through with it 😂 couldn’t be me, I atleast try.
Do you know about the poppy playtime controversy? You know, that one where the creators made an entire youtube channel dedicated to harrasing some animator that didn't want to join them? Or the one where they stole the idea for poppy playtime from the same animator, which was (I'm pretty sure) a minor?
if twitter didnt exist i believe the world would have flying houses
I love the way Foekoe says "ITS A VIDEO GAME" at 5:16
Indie Dev creates Mid Horror Game Demo: Gamers send death threats
AAA Team creates a buggy awful nostalgia-bait game with Literal Blood Libel: Gamers fellate them and cry and shit their pants if you dare suggest not spending $70 on it
Makes sense.
I feel so bad for the brothers. The fact they are getting death threats and harrasments non stop really makes me feel sad for them. You may not like it but that isn’t an excuse to say horrible things to cancel them why has this community been so toxic recently. The people who send these death threats to game owners who made a game they dont like are the 0.01% of bacteria the hand sanitizer cant remove
just thinking about menacing devs for a game is enough to know people are crazy
the internet be like: "hrm i do not like this thing, and i could just ignore it... time to send death threats to the random dude who made it!"
the same thing happened with that jellybean youtuber a while back
The reason that people are harassing the brothers is because they did some pretty bad things in the past. Not because of garten of banban. But the brothers made a game called introvert and its about you and your introvert friend who's about going to shoot up your school and you have to stop him and to stop him you have to be friends and make more friends for him and they say that this is relateable to gen z and it isnt. And the rabbit hole keeps going on. But if you want more info then look on the garten of banban iceberg.
This feels like the climax of mascot horror, hopefully Garten of Banban is as bad as it gets.
Nah people be treating them like they're reincarnations of hitler💀💀💀💀
Not the biggest lover to Garten of Banban but c'mon death threats.. REALLY!?!?!? Unbelievable, like they need to leave them alone. Anyone can criticize it, hate it, leave a bad review but they should never ever EVER harass them or even send death threats. Those people are immature and disgusting!!
To be fair, its not only a game, its merch, especialy targeted towards kids, making easy money without any effort
The thing is...
They have a point with the hate. I don't condone death threats or harassment. But they deserve all hate and criticism for obviously just wanting to squeeze as much money out of stupid children as possible. Wich is horrible...
But don't harass and threat them, don't makes them victims. Give them their well deserved criticism, but not abuse them.
But the game is free, so how are they getting money from kids who play it? Are there in-game purchases in it? Did it cost anything before?
@@katylepetsos7512 There was a link to a merchandise store on the title screen the moment the game came out.
@@imurpr0blemoh ok.
They are victims of harassment, what are you talking about. They just did a bad game. They deserve criticism, not hate.
@@antlace1780 Did you not read.
This is the first time i see the end of one of your videos, i cannot believe that i got jumpscared by a kamikaze version of you