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qi2 - better the chineses offer a slow standard than none is there at all. What does Xiaomi really offer ? For me I am still using magnetic USB connector with the 45 or 60 W chargers I also use for my laptops. So I do not use any of the wireless charging and replaced that with magnetic USB. At the end I also miss the energy loss figures in the real use case cause with the magnetic USB connector I have rougly 0% losses while 15% wireless is usual.
@@TechAltar why no tech channel is talking about HMD phones is it something wrong with the brand marketing or all the TH-cam channels are ignoring the brand
I like Standby on iPhones-I get a little mini-display on my desk that shows me the weather and battery status of my devices at a glance while my phone stays topped up at an 80% limit. It also lets me fully replace my nightstand clock with my phone.
Agreed, the accessory ecosystem is the draw with QI2 for me. I know a case is an option, but being built in would be nice. Definitely a want in my next phone.
0:59 this brings back flashbacks to them confidently saying "there are no tangible benefits to putting in more than one rear camera" and then they did it anyway
I know a bunch of people rocking iPhone cases with that MagSafe marking, but they have no clue what it's for. They think it's just a fancy design or something. It's hilarious!😂😂😂
My two housemates have iphones with magsafe and have no idea what it is, until i showed them my 'magsafe' accessories i use on my samsung just with a metal ring stuck on my case. One of them even stuck a metal circle for a phone mount in the middle so they can't even wireless charge. I really dont think apple users care.
As an American I just started experiencing super fast wired charging (Super VOOC) when I got a One Plus 12R. It's game changing as it charges so fast I usually charge at my desk at work for 20 mins while I go through emails and have a coffee. Then it's good for a day, day and half, or 2 days depending what I am doing. It eliminates needing a wireless charger to prop the phone on here and there through the day.
@trolslovenski You do realize that not many phone brands in America adopt 65w charging speed, don't you? Also, what's with the backdoor stuff all of a sudden? She didn't even mention the "ifruit" phone in the comment.
As an Indian 🇮🇳,I bought Realme X7 5g in 2021 for (INR 18000 6gb,128gb )which supports 50w SuperDart charging (comes with 65watt adaptor in box 4310mah battery) it was a game changer 50% in 18 min,100% in 47 min it have definitely spoiled me It is still faster in charging when compared to flagship from Google, Samsung, Apple Now when I think about buying a midrange samsung and see 25 watt charging I think it is a downgrade while coasting almost triple the price of my original phone Samsung just can't complete with these brands
I don't really care about wireless charging in general, but it's nice to have a backup in case the USB port ever breaks. Reverse wireless charging has also been useful a few times, when I forgot to charge my watch.
There's another huge reason samsung hasn't adopted magsafe, specifically with their ultra models. The s-pen relies on magnetic fields, trying to put a strong magnet behind or near the phone and use the s-pen, the phone give you a warning about the magnet, and the s-pen is no longer accurate. Although I suspect samsung could use some software alignment to correct for other magnetic fields, as well as making the tip and pen body conductive to let the phone use machine learning to 'learn' where the pen is baised to what it 'thinks' correcting any disturbances as you use the pen. (The phones already correct for speaker magnets) (Super side note, the s-pen has a little bit of 'drift' already, so the conductive bits and machine learning could still be used to improve the quality)
@@liamhill1702 yeah I use a MagSafe case and I never had an issue but I did hear back then they first came out with MagSafe cases for Samsung that it could mess with the S Pen when drawing and stuff but never heard a peep about it since and never had an issue myself
@@Asgar06???? Oh wow. You'll have to direct me to that case then because every time I use the S Pen on my S22 Ultra, I have to remove my Magsafe wallet. And I use the S Pen quite often
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep I've seen S24 Ultra magsafe cases without S pen issues. I have a S23 UItra and the same cases cause S Pen issues. It appears the S24 Ultra has the possibility to have both.
The only tangible benefit I can see for Qi2 is the magnets. I'd like to stick my phone to a car stand, but I'd still plug it in normally so that it's not too hot to hold later down the line.
Wireless carplay and Android Auto have eliminated the need to see your phone screen while you're driving in newer cars. I'd rather charge faster and have one less distraction.
@@akastixx If you'd rather charge faster, plug it in. I don't have a botnet car so I still have to use a phone screen for sat nav, not that one screen or the other is any less distracting, of course...
I use it in my shower so I can comfortably watch youtube or a show while showering. magsafe is really cool when you think about it as more of a strong magnetic mount than a wireless charging technology
Nexus 5 had magnets and wireless charging in 2013 and was charging with like ~5W, I am amazed that 10+ years later we had no real progress (aside for a few Chinese brands that are going crazy with wired/wireless charging)
instead of focusing more on better camera and faster charging they are hell bent on increasing raw performance which is literally not required in a smartphone,99% people don't need it,only gamers do really feels great that i own a phone with 120w charging,it charges from 20-80% in a little more than 20 mins
In 2024 and have never used/owned a wireless charger... They simply suck too much(bad thermal management) and I always prefer having the wire in the actual port and it being secured...
*guy in a donut store* "Jeez, what are they doing with all these silly flavors? Éclairs are so much better! I don't know why they had to go so far inventing all of this crazy stuff, who cares about that? And it's got a hole in the middle, how inefficient!!" It's just, like, not for you, man.
1:24 I'm not sure if it's just how your script is written but it makes it seem like you're saying the iPhone 12 does not support Qi2. While it originally it didn't upon release (it's 15w wireless charging was used as the basis for Qi2), about 8 months ago Apple updated the iPhone 12 to support Qi2.
Infinix Note 40 Pro uses Qi2 "MagSafe-like" charging. They call it MagCharge. But they actually give u the Qi2 charger with the phone. Plus a 100w charger,and a Mag-case. The wireless charge is 20w
As far as I understand, the Ultra series of Samsung phones wont have have Qi2 because of the magnetic field runing the spen tracking. it causes the spen to not recognize when the screen is being touched, same when one uses a case with strong magnets!
All smartwatches already use magnets and basic pogo pins to charge and that's as good as, if not better than any wireless charger I've ever used. Why not bring back pogo pins + magnets for charging phones again?
@@alexgrimm354 Most smartwatches, including my pixel 2, amazfit etc.. tend to use basic pogo pins .. and they work quite well. I never had to worry about aligning things manually. I just bring the charger close enough and it snaps into place because of the magnets..
I'm a big fan of Qi2 and wish more Android ecosystem devices were on board. I have a "Qi2 case" (dbrand Ghost 2.0) for my S22 Ultra, and I quite like using MagSafe accessories. I use a MagSafe charger/mount for my car. Funnily enough, I have the Anker device shown at 2:26 - With the kickstand, this is great for watching streams in the background at work. I also use it for my AirPods Pro 2s, and the magnetic centering with the AirPods is excellent.
The thing is, people are ignoring qi2 because they don’t need the wireless charging but generally MagSafe accessories are super useful as well which is what a lot forget
@@DanKaschelNah. They're useful when you need it to. Think of them as a backup/emergency plan, especially when natural disaster occurs in your area.
On the bright side, Qi2 is backward compatible with Qi1, and basically Android phones and iPhones prior to the iPhone 12 just put on a case with the MagSafe magnets. Power banks that are only MagSafe certified won’t work well, with older phones that is qi standard.
Holy crap, this was exactly what I've been keeping in my head for long time already. Instead of those rings that waste power because of the laws of physics, why not just use pogo pins? Wireless charging would be absolutely pointless if this is what they had done from the start.
Mechanical connection on the phone's outside = greater risk of being damaged -> mechanical wear and tear degrading the pins over time -> poor connection from dirt, dust, liquids getting inside -> harder to waterproof -> another failure point with moving parts prone to corrosion
At 3:00 , how can you say that the HMD charges "noticeably slower" than the iPhone, when your own chart showed that the HMD, while having lower power draw, actually charged to 100% faster than the iPhone. Edit: It's literally 16mins faster, or approx 10%. I don't know how you came to your conclusion, but it's objectively wrong, and provably false with your own data. That's misleading people by accident at best.
I started using QI charging back in 2012, and back then it made sense since I could charge the phone at my desk without having to worry over cables since a full charge took hours. But these days a 30 minute charge will easily make the phone hit 80 percent while we at the same time have the easier to use USB C connector. The only real place to use wireless charging these days is in the car or public places offering wireless charging such as Starbucks etc.
@@russianbear0027 before I got my current phone that has magnetic charging, I had a metal plate inside my phone case and was using a magnetic phone stand.. and wired charging. Now I'm wireless charging, but with a motorized clamp. It's silly, but I guess it's physically secure and not wearing the physical connector.
@@russianbear0027 I have Apple CarPlay already but I use my phone mounted anyway with a magnetic mount and can absolutely confirm that it is significantly better than the claw mounts
Qi2 is the USB Power Delivery of the wireless charging world, or even worse actually Xiaomi has a 80W wireless charger but has also achieved 120W wirelessly on a prototype Apple is late, as usual, while some brands have 200W+ wired charging, Apple is still stuch at 30W on their i15PM
I've been wondering this same question for a long time. The magnets take wireless charging from a cute little trick to actually wanting to use it for the daily charge. I'm very excited to see android phones start using it, and what extra tweaks they can add and innovate on top of it
Wireless chargers were quite popular a few years ago, but here in 2024, all my friends have switched back to wired charging because it’s faster and more efficient. Plus, why bother plugging the cable into the wireless charger when you can just connect it directly to the phone?
I love Qi2/MagSafe. It’s so convenient to just have a spot wherever you regularly are to just put the phone down on… and never think about charging again.
I love MagSafe. It's my favourite iPhone feature honestly. I specifically buy MagSafe cases for my android phones so that they can work with my MagSafe accessories (wallet, stand, tripod, etc.)
Buy a phone with a with a real battery.. oppo Mag safe is 5,000 milliamps and charges at 80 Watts.. 15 watts LOL.. why does an apple put a real battery in the phone so you don't need magsafe??
@@selvinwright2960having a battery that big and charging that fast is a result of the phone being incredibly inefficient. What's the point of 5000mAh when it doesn't even last 8hrs of screen-on time?
Because tech companies are super greedy and not innovative recently. They give us pretty much no substantial upgrades year to year. In fact, they take away some very nice features like the 3.5mm jack and the Micro SD expansion slot.
Yeah qi2 not being put into Android devices is so frustrating. I have to use the magnetic case on my Samsung S23 Ultra. Samsung even complains about my case every few months, about how my S-Pen could be affected by magnetic cases. Personally IDC about the s-pen, owned 5 Notes in the past and only use it once a year, maybe. You would expect the Chinese brands to benefit with the magnetic alignment to keeping the coils aligned with their faster rates.
That constant charging speed until the very (near) end for HMD Skyline is concerning, at least for generic LiPo batteries! You want to slow down charging (going from constant current to constant voltage) since they're highly sensitive to overcharging. Makes me wonder if they found a new battery tech for their phones.
It slows down, but only on the last 10% and less so than the iPhone. The whole charging is so slow I don't think it matters. It's less than 1% a minute even at peak, so I don't see why you need to slow down that much
The speed is a big factor. My five year old Huawei has 50w wireless charging plugs reverse charging, and certain Chinese cars come with high speed wireless charging pads as standard. Standardization is nice, but for those of us with Chinese droids, it's like regulators choosing to standardize to micro USB instead of USB-C.
I think people don't care about magnetic charging because its looks like it would be annoying to use while using my phone, and cables would seem to have better efficiency which is important to environmentally conscious users
Many smartphone brands, especially Chinese ones like Xiaomi and Oppo, have developed wireless charging technologies that even surpass the speeds offered by Qi2. These brands not only deliver faster charging but also maintain stable temperatures during the process. Interestingly, their approach is far more flexible. Their technologies are compatible with standard wireless chargers, wireless power banks, and even accessories or cases that provide a MagSafe-like experience-without being locked into a single ecosystem. So, before overly praising Qi2 or Apple, it might be wise to do some due diligence. There are plenty of alternatives that are not only more affordable but also offer innovation and compatibility just as good-if not more practical-for diverse user needs.
I am using a Magic V3, with a magnetic case, but honestly, Qi never worked for me in a meaningful way other than in car charging. When I am using my phone, having a battery stuck at the back of the phone is more annoying than having a cable from a power bank. Not only is is lighter but more flexible. When using a phone in bed or at a desk, I have to disengage the charger everytime I am to use the phone which does not give me any real benifit from using a cable.
@@witchmomorency297 Do these proprietary charging solutions also charge Qi2 devices or at least MagSafe? And why does a proprietary fast charging solution not lock me in? I can only use chargers for fast charging that are compatible with that specific technology. With Qi2 I am not locked in anywhere. And besides, why would I want super fast charging in the first place? The night is long and for faster charge during the day I use a cable. Even Qi with 7.5W is good enough for that.
@@henfreetravel What do you mean by a battery stuck at the back for Qi charging? It does not have magnets so you have to put the power bank on a table and add the phone on top. As for MagSafe I will put phone and power bank in some pocket. Not having a cable is a big benefit. At my desk I do not have the need to charge the phone and in the rare exceptional case I charge it via cable when convenient. And since I put my phone on a Qi2 charger at night no doom scrolling anymore. I read a book instead. I sleep longer and better now.
15-25W are OK for wireless charging because we charge the phones like that only when sleeping, at the desk when working or in the car during long drives.
Wireless charging just seems like a slow, lazy way to fry your battery. I've used my charger maybe twice in two years. It's just too inefficient, can't see the benefit. I prefer the peace of mind of a good, wired, proprietary charger. And whilst I also have a magsafe cover for my Android phone, it's sole purpose for me is to mount it in the car holder, without me having to constantly look at the magnet or feel it in the back of the device.
if you have multiple devices wireless charging makes way more sense, why would you wanna plug them all in instead of setting it down and forgetting about it
The benefit is you don't have to think about charging your device. Why do you care about efficiency? You aren't going to notice an increase in your power bill. Well made wireless chargers do not harm your phone. Oneplus proved that years ago.
Qi2 case on my fold5 is game changing. I use apps for tracking work that need to be open and don't work on Android Auto. It's so smooth being able to just pop it on the mount and it's working
I’ve use MagSafe religiously. I really enjoy it. I don’t tend to charge my phone often because it lasts me all day most days. But when I charge it at night I love being able to snap it onto my charging stand and not have to worry about it not charging with a regular wireless charger. I used to own Samsung phones, I wouldn’t ever wireless charger due to it failing when it wasn’t lined up properly, and waking up to a dead or low battery phone was very annoying. Charging aside. I love the amount of accessories also. My phone stand, car phone holder, wallet, etc. It is nice to be able to just snap something important to my phone and not worry about it.
I now have Pixel 6 Pro with Peak Design Mobile magnetic accessories and it is a godsent! So comvenient to just plop your phone whenever it fits. The only downside is the bulky case I have to wear on the phone at all times. I skipped Pixel 9 for the reason it doesn't have Qi2.
Qi2 was never meant to replace traditional wired charging. It was always supposed to help you gain back a bit of battery by for example charging your phone in the middle console of your car while heading out to get groceries. Also, many of you as stated by yourself have never used wireless charging. You cleary never had the comfort of coming home, just kinda throwing your phone on the charger and having it charge, albeit slow, without having to fiddle around with the cable. We are tech people, we dont represent how the majority uses their phones.
You are tech person but you are want to people use worse tech over comfort xd you are Comfort person and you seem from this comment that you don’t care about facts and care about feeling of comfort.
It feels like Android users here are making the same kind of excuses iPhone users usually make when Android users tout a feature they don't have-"the phonemakers know what's best for you and that feature isn't worthwhile anyway".
This is one of the reasons why I returned the Samsung s24 plus - refusing to adopt pro-consumer features while also removing features like the brightness slider on always on display. These premium Android phones aren't worth the asking price.
Chinese brands are popular in Asia Pacific and even Europe. They support way higher charging speeds. Qi2 has no use case basically in this market. As the American market doesn't have access to Chinese brands, they are happy with slow 15W charging
@@MegaLokopo Xiaomi is their direct competitor and because of how they`re launched Xiaomi is better than samsung for 6 months of the year and then samsung takes the crown for another 6 months. Really cool cuz you can experience best of the 2 worlds(Xiaomi launches with best cpus earlier than samsung but then samsung comes out with better zoom, screens and battery life). I just bought last years Xiaomi 14(one of a few small flag ships. Not ultra level flagship but very decent snap 8g3 etc.) and I hope she`ll enjoy it. I`ll buy myself galaxy S25 ultra probably when it comes out but I`m not shure though for now at least. Xiaomi UI looks almost like apple so it`s very easy to transition from ios to android here (looks very similiar but supports universal back button which is a total game changer)
Long term battery life and safety are some percentage of the answer. There’s a lot of waste heat in wireless charging, which reduces component life for the battery and the CPU.
@@JasonJrake The heat is only an issue if you let it build up in the device. If you have a charger with a fan built in, the over temperature of the device stays lower, and no more damage is done than with a wired charging. The damage comes from the temperature achieved, not the amount of heat generated. Charging your phone in direct sunlight with a cable will do far more damage than charging wirelessly while it is in front of an air conditioner. That is why any phone will charge slower if it is already hot, and charge much faster if you keep the temperature lower. The power being delivered wirelessly makes no difference, the only thing that matters is the temperature of the battery.
@ this makes sense, good to know. I generally only wireless charge if I get water in the charge port (I have to use my phone for work tasks that drain it quickly), while it dries out.
Every year they spend billions of dollars to make more efficient chips, try to create more sustainable supply chains, etc. Why then force inefficient wireless charging onto us? I'm happy with wires.
@@ThePianist51I think this is a problem of phone repairability, not necessarily the port itself. (both wireless and wire charging suffer from this problem in different extent, but the underlying problem isn't necessarily either's fault)
yes, wireless charging is less mechanical, and would be more reliable, but i dont think wasting so much power and loosing so much mobility is worth it to preserve the port my 5 year old phone's charging port is still in a good shape? i dont know how can the insignaficant wear and tear on it be a problem for you guys? i think making replaceable ports would be easier than getting rid of it
I think that a metal contact magnetic charger could be much more efficient than coils, cheaper to produce, and allow for data pins. This could give rise to not only a charging standard but an ecosystem of smartphone attachments
Here is why manufacturers are wrong. (and so are most consumers). 1. You need a battery that lasts a day (even when the phone is 2-3 years old) --> completely invalidates the charging speed dilemma because 5W is more than enough for your overnight charge, plus you avoid heating up your phone (and reducing the life expectancy of your battery). 2. It's okay if you forget to charge overnight. That's what fast wired charging is for. Less heat, more speed. --> again, why would you want fast wireless charging? 3. Magnets are worth more than the charging itself. Car mount? Desk stand? Accessories on the back of your phone? Yeah, why not? This is what actually matters. --> There is absolutely no reason not to adopt Qi2 and it's actually superior to all the 50W wireless crap from Chinese manufacturers.
Idk who's still using only 5w for a charger, but yes! Fast charging is indeed still bad for most batteries. MAYBE something on the horizon can put up better than what we have, be last I checked, manufacturers are resorting to either software tricks to TRY an alleviate this factual issue, of not using multiple batteries that are being "rotated." I'd imagine most of these people fixated on their phone go from 2% to 80% in a few minites are social media hores that refuse to unplug themselves, or foll who work on their devices. Definitely not technically inclined whatsoever.
I have this same confusion with that one ultrasonic fingerprint scanner qualcomm made. Not the one used in samsung phones, there's one that's significantly bigger and can scan a new finger in one press and has a much larger detection area. But only one phone has used it to my knowledge, one of the vivo phones if I'm remembering right.
The phone i have the "Infinix Note 40 Pro 5G" is Qi 2 enabled but does not have magnets inside the phone, instead it comes with a case which has the magnets in it, like the oppo, but they give the case for free included in the box and the phone itself is the only one which supports wireless charging at all in it's price segment of around 20-25k INR or 230-300 USD. And the phone itself is very good even though it doesn't have a powerfull processor it's a good feature packed phone
I only care about speed. Once you get used to a 120W wired charger, there's no going back. 15W would seem equivalent to not charging at all. So unless I get 80W+ wireless, I am sticking to my 120W wired charger.
These crazy high wattage charging rates on these cheap Chinesium phones are absolutely TERRIBLE for battery longevity though. Going past around ≈60W without crazy active cooling is god-tier idiotic.
@@Cooe. Longevity lol. I could get half a dozen of these Chinesium smartphones every alternative year for the price of a single iPhone Pro Max. And these Chinesium phones stay in the latest and greatest of technology. Been using the 120W for well over a year now, and haven't noticed any out of the ordinary battery drains.
@sandeepsrinivas7 Good for you. Keep bragging about needlessly destroying the planet. 🙄🤦 And there are more phones options than Xiaomi & BBK brands and iPhones genius. 😑 Also, I'm not even saying Chinese phones are inherently bad. But battery killing super fast ultra high wattage charging in a world where phones don't have replaceable batteries is d!p$h!t arse idiotic. 🤷 Also lol only absolute l0s3rs upvote their own comments! 🤣
@sandeepsrinivas7 Good for you. Keep bragging about needlessly destroying the planet. 🙄🤦 And there are more phones options than Xiaomi & BBK brands and iPhones genius. 😑 Also, I'm not even saying Chinese phones are inherently bad. But battery killing super fast ultra high wattage charging in a world where phones don't have replaceable batteries is d!p$h!t arse idiotic. 🤷 Also lol only absolute l0s3rs upvote their own comments! 🤣
I use my iFruit as my alarm clock beside my bed, so it sits on a stand and the clock switches to night-clock and calendar. It has all night to charge so I am not worry about the speed it charges. As far as charging it during the day, in case I forgot to put it on the wireless stand- I always use wire to speed things up. I wouldn't bother with a wireless charger.
Ive been using magsafe on my androids with a case since it was first released and i also have no idea why no other manufacturers are adopting it. My best guess is that they're afraid consumers won't know it's an open standard now and so nobody wants to be the first because it feels like an apple ripoff, but apple has always been a leader in feature development for smartphones so i dont see why that would stop anyone. I hope to se qi2 on my next android though. Note: I use a OnePlus and love supervooc charging, but to me they have different purposes. Supervooc is for getting a fast charge when I need it, and qi2/magsafe is for keeping my battery high with minimal effort.
@@hannes6114 Yes, for quick charging with a wireless power bank, it is essential; otherwise, a wireless power bank is incredibly inconvenient to use. However, using a wireless charger doesn't make sense because of the slower charging and, primarily, the heat it generates over time. So, I would say it makes it more practical but still not usable in the normal sense.
It's pretty pointless for a phone. Especially for majority of people. Why spend extra on something that people only use to charge with a 5W brick? iPads have a different user base so it makes sense to provide that stuff, but phones are just for general use
A lot of people in the comments seem to miss the point about MagSafe. The various magnetic attachments and accessories do make a difference. I even use the charger quite often. The USB C port on any phone can get damaged over time (happened to my iPad after plugging a very tight Samsung USB C cable that came with the T5 SSD) The wireless charging will be invaluable if you don’t want to fix your port. As long as wired charging is available with wireless, there’s no harm!
@@divitkarekar5803I’ve had two phones who’s port stopped working, like they still charge but you have to fiddle with the charger a lot and if there is a slight bump (like if you put your phone down or move it at all) it would stop charging.
Looking up their website it looks like Infinix has a self-developed magnetic system that is not Qi 2. They aren't listed as Qi 2 certified on the WPC website either, so the tech might be similar, but it's not officially Qi 2
Pretty much every wireless charging solution is on average less convenient than wired. You either have to lay it flat on a base and can’t use it while it’s being charged, or you have something like MagSafe that’s a puck on the back (pretty much wired and doesn’t work with all accessories). Car wireless chargers are usually the worst, the phones run hot and barely take on any power. Not to forget they’re many times slower than wired charging. Can’t wait to have true wireless charging where you flip a switch and your phone charges from anywhere in your room, house, car, etc.
Buy a Oneplus phone. Buy a 50 watt wireless charger for your desk at home, your desk at work, and wherever else you set your phone down. I don't even have the battery indicator on my phone turned on, because charging my phone is not something I have ever thought about since I switched to Oneplus.
Car wireless chargers are not going to "barely" take on any power if it has MagSafe because it would be properly aligned. At home, the MagSafe design is mostly for the nightstand type charger where you just snap it on. Ever since upgrading my iPhone it was *way* more convenient than a wired charger since it aligns itself so easily and it's much easier to take it off / put it on especially at night. The whole point of MagSafe is so you don't have to lay it flat on a base and/or fiddle with aligning it properly.
Water proofing without a port is much easier. There are many more habits you could change to make a bigger difference than not using wireless charging. Pull over and calm down if you are ever driving angry, you'll save more energy in a day, than you waste wireless charging for a year.
@@MegaLokopo There is always something making a bigger difference, so that you can justify doing nothing at all. Phones are waterproof enough. I never had any issue with water damage, nor do I know anyone who ever had issues with that either. Sure, if you actually have specialized applications where a phone, a camera or whatever needs to be perfectly water tight, for diving purposes etc. wireless charging is an option. Then this inefficient technology has a rational justification. If you want to replace a simple cable with a bulky charge eating up desk space all the time, you don't. PS: I don't drive. I take public transportation.
@@sagichnicht6748 It isn't about justifying doing nothing, it is about making the biggest difference you can with the limited time you have available throughout your life. I also take public transportation, I have never owned a car. I just assume everyone else does because almost everyone else in the US does drive. I have never had a phone water damaged, but I live nearly as far away from water as I can. Other people live near or on water, and why shouldn't companies make the best phones they can? Water damage is a common failure of phones as well as dropping, and the space taken up by the port, could be better used to make phone more drop resistant as well. With or without a wireless charger, I would have my phone on a angled vertical stand just by my preference so it doesn't take up any more space on my desk if my phone charges or not, it is on the same stand either way, and it takes up less space than my phone lying flat.
My S24 is in a case (dbrand grip) has the qi2 magnet ring. With the 15w superfast wireless charging that already exists... I functionally have it. I use qi2 chargers constantly.
I think apple 8:24 learn a lot from the Lightning port "be the standard". My opinion if Lightning port was way better but speed did not catch on. USB-C port seems easier to be broken than lighting ports.
Lightning was never offered as a standard genius. 🤦😑 Nobody but Apple was allowed to use it, which was literally the whole point. And inside it was just dogs][!t USB 2. USB-C is more fragile because it has more pins that let it do things like USB3-4, DisplayPort video over USB, etc... It's easy to make an insanely tiny, durable port when literally all it needs to deal with is power and circa 2003 data transfer speeds.
It doesn't make too much sense to me: Samsung and Google want to compete with Apple, so instead of switching to a new, better wireless charging protocol they... Stick with the old, worse one? How does that help them persuade customers to choose their product instead of Apple's?
@@Yeetoh-t5f Because it doesn't take much space (it takes way more space than a headphone jack) and is an excuse to lower or not improve the battery live
In this comments section: People who have never used Wireless Chargining on a daily basis claiming it's pointless and useless. Reeks of "Nobody wants wireless headphones! They're pointless!"
There's still people clamoring for a headphone jack on almost every new phone review, when I would at this point just straight up not buy a phone that wastes internal space on it... I will never ever want to spend 2 minutes untangling messy cables only to plug in and find out the cable is broken again for the 3rd time this week. They must only be using their phones at home.
@@JanVernyI've been using wired headphones for my whole life and in the last 5 years I have broken one pair of headphones I use them daily on my commute to work I'd much rather spend 30 seconds untangling a cable than having the wireless buds just turn off and asking to be charged I'm glad Sony Stil makes flagship phones that have a headphone jack
@@Space_Reptile See in the last five years I have never had my wireless buds run out of juice. But in the five years before I did have two broken headphone jacks and seven headphones that all ended up having a broken cable.
@@JanVerny "See in the last five years I have never had my wireless buds run out of juice. " Unless you somehow achieved unlimited energy and power, you're just making up BS now. As for the broken cables, maybe stop looking for "good deals" and buying cheap $10 earbuds?
I use Spigen clear cases on both Android and iOS phones. For those with the 16 series iPhones, they offer cases with the same style Camera Control button as Apple.
Biggest issue with phone charging isn't the speed at all. It's that smartphones lack smart charging. Because of that you can't charge overnight, and so you need to charge quickly at some point during the day. If I could tell the phone that I want to have 90% when I wake up, I would probably never need charging faster than 5W. A faster wireless charger doesn't solve this. It just adds a magnet that makes the phone more bulky, that's why manufacturers don't feel like adding it.
There is an app called macrodroid that solves this problem with a bit of setup. Also, charge your phone before bed, and have it set to turn off whenever you go to bed, and turn back on just before your alarm clock.
It depends on the use case. I think a lot of Americans may not realize how dependent an average Chinese is on their phone. If you walk around China you see a *lot* of rental chargers. The ubiquity of WeChat/Alipay QR code is kind of a double-edged sword because you end up using your phone a lot more (and camera usage costs power) and if the phone dies you suddenly can't do a lot of things. We are talking about parking lots that use QR code and you won't be able to order food in most restaurants.
@@BrotherCheng Getting through a day of modest use is usually not that difficult. Though when abroad I do see that I sometimes charge 2-3 times a day (from a powerbank). But that is also not a situation where the speed of charging matters. Most important thing is to be able to slowly charge when it's convenient. Then you will quickly realize that faster charging is pointless.
Actually we found a problem it can tackle recently, Raytheon just landed a contract to develop wireless power transmission for entire military bases. So the idea is if your on base you won't need to use batteries, it'll simplify logistics. Well in theory, in practice it'll probably be a boondoggle.
I don't care about the wireless charging part. The accessory market is what is beneficial to users. To have the option to easily use a support in the car. Or an a desk. And so many options are out there.
I will not for a long time use fast charching, the heat kills the battery long term, the magnet could get stuck on a magnetic surface and reduces internal space of the phone that could have resulted in a bigger battery
I just stick my Fold 6 onto an Anker Qi2 car mount because it was the best design. I only really use it for the magnetic attachment, so the not very compatible and slow charging is fine to just keep it topped up, plus it doesn't heat up.
Bro if a lot of companies used it, it would mean it is really good but if that would have been the case Apple wouldn't have released it to everyone bc why would they give away their good profitable things?
I dont think wireless chargers need to be as fast/powerful as wired chargers. Most people are just docking their phones for the night, at their desk at work, or in the car. Usually for hours at a time. The usage of the chargers means making them faster will cause battery degradation to happen quicker.
I have galaxy s23 ultra, I have a magsafe style case, a non magsafe wireless charger base next to my bed, and a magsafe compatible mount in my car. It's brilliant not having to clip the phone into a holder (my car has wireless android auto). It doesn't worry me too much about timescale to charge.
I know S-pen doesn't work right near magnets. Don't know why others aren't integrating it. But it is a good tech for chargers, stands, car phone holders. I have always used Pitaka cases since before Apple made MagSafe on iPhones.
I seem to be in a different boat to most commenters here. I rely heavily on Wireless charging. I live in an overly humid accomodation, my phone often detects moisture and refuses to charge via wire. My phone is a Samsung S20. I use a standard wireless charging pad - it takes 2 - 2.5 hours to charge. A full charge by wire takes 1.5 hours. That difference is _negligible_ to me. I dont mind in the slightest. I dont _need_ faster on wireless - thats already lighting fast to me
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My Pixel 7A is compatible with magsafe.
qi2 - better the chineses offer a slow standard than none is there at all.
What does Xiaomi really offer ?
For me I am still using magnetic USB connector with the 45 or 60 W chargers I also use for my laptops.
So I do not use any of the wireless charging and replaced that with magnetic USB.
At the end I also miss the energy loss figures in the real use case cause with the magnetic USB connector I have rougly 0% losses while 15% wireless is usual.
@@TechAltar why no tech channel is talking about HMD phones is it something wrong with the brand marketing or all the TH-cam channels are ignoring the brand
My iPhone 16 PM is Qi2 what are you talking about
I don't care about the wireless charging speed. Using the magnets for a dock, car mount or wallet is what people seem to value more.
You can get the Magnetic Case
I like Standby on iPhones-I get a little mini-display on my desk that shows me the weather and battery status of my devices at a glance while my phone stays topped up at an 80% limit. It also lets me fully replace my nightstand clock with my phone.
Yes
Agreed, the accessory ecosystem is the draw with QI2 for me. I know a case is an option, but being built in would be nice. Definitely a want in my next phone.
Yeah i use it to watch stocks at work @sodapone
"15W ultra-fast magnetic charging" xD
It doesn't matter how many fancy words are added after 15W.
ifruit things
Xiaomi charges with 50w - Wireless on their 15 ultra!
funny thing is 15w isnt even groundbreaking even phones as old as the s10 already has 15w wireless charging and it isn't qi 2
You lost me at wireless charging, just plug in a damn cable and preserve your battery.
15W of charging, 30W of heat 💀
0:59 this brings back flashbacks to them confidently saying "there are no tangible benefits to putting in more than one rear camera" and then they did it anyway
Or like them saying they’d never removed the headphone jack
Or the charger,
I have three cameras on my phone. I use one.
@@Coromi1 I have three cameras on the back of my phone.
However, I use 5 cameras
@@enda0manthey never said that
@@sabni8668i think it was around s8 or s9 samsung did say both
I know a bunch of people rocking iPhone cases with that MagSafe marking, but they have no clue what it's for. They think it's just a fancy design or something. It's hilarious!😂😂😂
My brother has a card between the case, which basically blocks MagSafe.
That's just so sad.
@@oevers it might block wireless charging but the metal ring on a case still work with magnets.
Andoird gay boys can't stop talking about apple. What losers.
My two housemates have iphones with magsafe and have no idea what it is, until i showed them my 'magsafe' accessories i use on my samsung just with a metal ring stuck on my case.
One of them even stuck a metal circle for a phone mount in the middle so they can't even wireless charge. I really dont think apple users care.
As an American I just started experiencing super fast wired charging (Super VOOC) when I got a One Plus 12R. It's game changing as it charges so fast I usually charge at my desk at work for 20 mins while I go through emails and have a coffee. Then it's good for a day, day and half, or 2 days depending what I am doing. It eliminates needing a wireless charger to prop the phone on here and there through the day.
What an american part (as an american)has to do with it? Finnaly discovered that Huawei doesnt have backdoors,but your expensive iFruit has them? 😂😂😂😂
@trolslovenski You do realize that not many phone brands in America adopt 65w charging speed, don't you? Also, what's with the backdoor stuff all of a sudden? She didn't even mention the "ifruit" phone in the comment.
@@trolslovenski American phones have at best 25-33W "fast" charging.
@@israellewis5484 American phones don't exist.
As an Indian 🇮🇳,I bought Realme X7 5g in 2021 for (INR 18000 6gb,128gb )which supports 50w SuperDart charging (comes with 65watt adaptor in box 4310mah battery) it was a game changer 50% in 18 min,100% in 47 min it have definitely spoiled me
It is still faster in charging when compared to flagship from Google, Samsung, Apple
Now when I think about buying a midrange samsung and see 25 watt charging I think it is a downgrade while coasting almost triple the price of my original phone
Samsung just can't complete with these brands
I don't really care about wireless charging in general, but it's nice to have a backup in case the USB port ever breaks. Reverse wireless charging has also been useful a few times, when I forgot to charge my watch.
That is the view of most people I know.
I always forget about reverse wireless, I've gone whole days without earbuds and then remembered on my commute back when it's too late to matter 😂
@@user-qy2wf2lt6v sadly
Your USB port won't wear out if you wirelessly charge.
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There's another huge reason samsung hasn't adopted magsafe, specifically with their ultra models. The s-pen relies on magnetic fields, trying to put a strong magnet behind or near the phone and use the s-pen, the phone give you a warning about the magnet, and the s-pen is no longer accurate.
Although I suspect samsung could use some software alignment to correct for other magnetic fields, as well as making the tip and pen body conductive to let the phone use machine learning to 'learn' where the pen is baised to what it 'thinks' correcting any disturbances as you use the pen. (The phones already correct for speaker magnets)
(Super side note, the s-pen has a little bit of 'drift' already, so the conductive bits and machine learning could still be used to improve the quality)
I am using a MagSafe case for my Ultra and it doesn't disturb the pen. So there is definitely a possibility to implement that together with a pen.
@@liamhill1702 yeah I use a MagSafe case and I never had an issue but I did hear back then they first came out with MagSafe cases for Samsung that it could mess with the S Pen when drawing and stuff but never heard a peep about it since and never had an issue myself
@@Asgar06???? Oh wow. You'll have to direct me to that case then because every time I use the S Pen on my S22 Ultra, I have to remove my Magsafe wallet. And I use the S Pen quite often
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep I've seen S24 Ultra magsafe cases without S pen issues. I have a S23 UItra and the same cases cause S Pen issues. It appears the S24 Ultra has the possibility to have both.
@@Asgar06 Me too, it's never been a problem.
The only tangible benefit I can see for Qi2 is the magnets. I'd like to stick my phone to a car stand, but I'd still plug it in normally so that it's not too hot to hold later down the line.
Wireless carplay and Android Auto have eliminated the need to see your phone screen while you're driving in newer cars. I'd rather charge faster and have one less distraction.
@@akastixx If you'd rather charge faster, plug it in. I don't have a botnet car so I still have to use a phone screen for sat nav, not that one screen or the other is any less distracting, of course...
I use it in my shower so I can comfortably watch youtube or a show while showering. magsafe is really cool when you think about it as more of a strong magnetic mount than a wireless charging technology
Nexus 5 had magnets and wireless charging in 2013 and was charging with like ~5W, I am amazed that 10+ years later we had no real progress (aside for a few Chinese brands that are going crazy with wired/wireless charging)
instead of focusing more on better camera and faster charging they are hell bent on increasing raw performance which is literally not required in a smartphone,99% people don't need it,only gamers do
really feels great that i own a phone with 120w charging,it charges from 20-80% in a little more than 20 mins
@@divitkarekar5803 Oneplus is awesome. I love charging my phone wirelessly faster than most people charge with a cable.
I actually recently tried putting my Nexus 5 on my new Qi2 stand and found it hilarious that it stuck!
@@divitkarekar5803well they're not the ones improving the chips, Qualcomm does it for them
Rule of thumb: Apple never invented anything.
In 2024 and have never used/owned a wireless charger... They simply suck too much(bad thermal management) and I always prefer having the wire in the actual port and it being secured...
To add on to this, it never really seemed wireless, like Bluetooth or WiFi. You still have to keep your device in one place.
Well, it is a safer alternative in public charging spaces since you don't have to plug in a random wire and risk your phone getting breached
@@Muhsin-ox1vj I think the technical term is juice jacking.
Bro, how can you tell if it's good or bad if you've never tried it before?
*guy in a donut store*
"Jeez, what are they doing with all these silly flavors? Éclairs are so much better! I don't know why they had to go so far inventing all of this crazy stuff, who cares about that? And it's got a hole in the middle, how inefficient!!"
It's just, like, not for you, man.
1:24 I'm not sure if it's just how your script is written but it makes it seem like you're saying the iPhone 12 does not support Qi2. While it originally it didn't upon release (it's 15w wireless charging was used as the basis for Qi2), about 8 months ago Apple updated the iPhone 12 to support Qi2.
Infinix Note 40 Pro uses Qi2 "MagSafe-like" charging. They call it MagCharge. But they actually give u the Qi2 charger with the phone. Plus a 100w charger,and a Mag-case. The wireless charge is 20w
As far as I understand, the Ultra series of Samsung phones wont have have Qi2 because of the magnetic field runing the spen tracking. it causes the spen to not recognize when the screen is being touched, same when one uses a case with strong magnets!
I believe it was just said they actually might bring Qi2 to the s25 series
All smartwatches already use magnets and basic pogo pins to charge and that's as good as, if not better than any wireless charger I've ever used. Why not bring back pogo pins + magnets for charging phones again?
Pogo pins are prone to breaking
What do you mean? My smart watch has wireless charging
@@AsherTech But even tablets tend to use pogo pins to attach the keyboard etc.. no?
@@alexgrimm354 Most smartwatches, including my pixel 2, amazfit etc.. tend to use basic pogo pins .. and they work quite well. I never had to worry about aligning things manually. I just bring the charger close enough and it snaps into place because of the magnets..
@saidinesh5 which I've had broke on me
I'm a big fan of Qi2 and wish more Android ecosystem devices were on board. I have a "Qi2 case" (dbrand Ghost 2.0) for my S22 Ultra, and I quite like using MagSafe accessories. I use a MagSafe charger/mount for my car. Funnily enough, I have the Anker device shown at 2:26 - With the kickstand, this is great for watching streams in the background at work. I also use it for my AirPods Pro 2s, and the magnetic centering with the AirPods is excellent.
The thing is, people are ignoring qi2 because they don’t need the wireless charging but generally MagSafe accessories are super useful as well which is what a lot forget
…nope that ain’t it
@@DanKaschelNah. They're useful when you need it to. Think of them as a backup/emergency plan, especially when natural disaster occurs in your area.
On the bright side, Qi2 is backward compatible with Qi1, and basically Android phones and iPhones prior to the iPhone 12 just put on a case with the MagSafe magnets. Power banks that are only MagSafe certified won’t work well, with older phones that is qi standard.
if there is magnet for alignment why do we need wireless? can be done with just pogo pins? no power loss and even can build for mods accessories.
great thinking!
Holy crap, this was exactly what I've been keeping in my head for long time already. Instead of those rings that waste power because of the laws of physics, why not just use pogo pins? Wireless charging would be absolutely pointless if this is what they had done from the start.
some sort of pins, sure. pogo pins are notoriously unreliable long term.
Like those ipad connector for keyboard
Mechanical connection on the phone's outside = greater risk of being damaged -> mechanical wear and tear degrading the pins over time -> poor connection from dirt, dust, liquids getting inside -> harder to waterproof -> another failure point with moving parts prone to corrosion
I like the part where he does a insta 360 sponsorship segment but doesnt speed in a school zone
What is this, second video of the week?
Daaaaamn, you’re on fire
insta 360 sponsoring every tech youtuber left right and center
theyre burning through vc monies, it has to go somewhere
At 3:00 , how can you say that the HMD charges "noticeably slower" than the iPhone, when your own chart showed that the HMD, while having lower power draw, actually charged to 100% faster than the iPhone.
Edit: It's literally 16mins faster, or approx 10%. I don't know how you came to your conclusion, but it's objectively wrong, and provably false with your own data.
That's misleading people by accident at best.
Vibes based analysis
Different battery capacities. If it has a lower power draw, it's charging slower because energy is energy.
@wta1518 that would be correct with a direct connection, but this is wireless.
@@Krono19 Buddy, energy is energy.
@wta1518 if you don't understand that wireless charging is more wasteful as current goes up because of the heat generated, you don't get energy, bud.
I started using QI charging back in 2012, and back then it made sense since I could charge the phone at my desk without having to worry over cables since a full charge took hours. But these days a 30 minute charge will easily make the phone hit 80 percent while we at the same time have the easier to use USB C connector. The only real place to use wireless charging these days is in the car or public places offering wireless charging such as Starbucks etc.
"there are no tangible benefits to switching to Qi2" has nobody on Google's design team ever used a magnetic car mount?
They likely assume that most people have android auto. Magnets also may not have that big an advantage over a basic claw holder.
Google pays them good enough to have new cars with CarPlay so they don’t need a car mount
@@russianbear0027 before I got my current phone that has magnetic charging, I had a metal plate inside my phone case and was using a magnetic phone stand.. and wired charging.
Now I'm wireless charging, but with a motorized clamp. It's silly, but I guess it's physically secure and not wearing the physical connector.
@@russianbear0027 I have Apple CarPlay already but I use my phone mounted anyway with a magnetic mount and can absolutely confirm that it is significantly better than the claw mounts
@@russianbear0027 I disagree, purely from the experience of endlessly having my phone drop from those
Qi2 is the USB Power Delivery of the wireless charging world, or even worse actually
Xiaomi has a 80W wireless charger but has also achieved 120W wirelessly on a prototype
Apple is late, as usual, while some brands have 200W+ wired charging, Apple is still stuch at 30W on their i15PM
I don't care too much about wireless charging, but I would love magnets on the back of my phone for accessories like phone stands, popsockets, etc.
I've been wondering this same question for a long time. The magnets take wireless charging from a cute little trick to actually wanting to use it for the daily charge. I'm very excited to see android phones start using it, and what extra tweaks they can add and innovate on top of it
Wireless chargers were quite popular a few years ago, but here in 2024, all my friends have switched back to wired charging because it’s faster and more efficient. Plus, why bother plugging the cable into the wireless charger when you can just connect it directly to the phone?
08:39 apple is really scared of eu and making sure no more kneeling down😂😂
Ugh. I wish wireless charging could die. I want my aluminum backs back.
bro is spitting facts
iPhones have good Magsafe, but still they can't be able to wireless power share (reverse wireless charging).
I love Qi2/MagSafe. It’s so convenient to just have a spot wherever you regularly are to just put the phone down on… and never think about charging again.
Exactly! I have MagSafe chargers on my deck and in my car. I rarely go out of my way to charge my phone because it’s always being passively charged
I love MagSafe. It's my favourite iPhone feature honestly.
I specifically buy MagSafe cases for my android phones so that they can work with my MagSafe accessories (wallet, stand, tripod, etc.)
Buy a phone with a with a real battery.. oppo Mag safe is 5,000 milliamps and charges at 80 Watts.. 15 watts LOL.. why does an apple put a real battery in the phone so you don't need magsafe??
@@selvinwright2960having a battery that big and charging that fast is a result of the phone being incredibly inefficient. What's the point of 5000mAh when it doesn't even last 8hrs of screen-on time?
Two uploads back to back just 3 days apart?
Awesome!
Because tech companies are super greedy and not innovative recently. They give us pretty much no substantial upgrades year to year. In fact, they take away some very nice features like the 3.5mm jack and the Micro SD expansion slot.
Yeah qi2 not being put into Android devices is so frustrating. I have to use the magnetic case on my Samsung S23 Ultra. Samsung even complains about my case every few months, about how my S-Pen could be affected by magnetic cases. Personally IDC about the s-pen, owned 5 Notes in the past and only use it once a year, maybe.
You would expect the Chinese brands to benefit with the magnetic alignment to keeping the coils aligned with their faster rates.
The Chinese brands just don't care because they have their own things going on
That constant charging speed until the very (near) end for HMD Skyline is concerning, at least for generic LiPo batteries! You want to slow down charging (going from constant current to constant voltage) since they're highly sensitive to overcharging. Makes me wonder if they found a new battery tech for their phones.
It slows down, but only on the last 10% and less so than the iPhone. The whole charging is so slow I don't think it matters. It's less than 1% a minute even at peak, so I don't see why you need to slow down that much
@@TechAltar Even charging at
Maybe cuz iPhone is overheating and hmd doesn’t
i really want the magnets
The speed is a big factor. My five year old Huawei has 50w wireless charging plugs reverse charging, and certain Chinese cars come with high speed wireless charging pads as standard.
Standardization is nice, but for those of us with Chinese droids, it's like regulators choosing to standardize to micro USB instead of USB-C.
I think people don't care about magnetic charging because its looks like it would be annoying to use while using my phone, and cables would seem to have better efficiency which is important to environmentally conscious users
we dont care about the charging. we want the magnets built into the phone -signed, everyone
Many smartphone brands, especially Chinese ones like Xiaomi and Oppo, have developed wireless charging technologies that even surpass the speeds offered by Qi2. These brands not only deliver faster charging but also maintain stable temperatures during the process.
Interestingly, their approach is far more flexible. Their technologies are compatible with standard wireless chargers, wireless power banks, and even accessories or cases that provide a MagSafe-like experience-without being locked into a single ecosystem.
So, before overly praising Qi2 or Apple, it might be wise to do some due diligence. There are plenty of alternatives that are not only more affordable but also offer innovation and compatibility just as good-if not more practical-for diverse user needs.
Can you give examples of phones that are available outside china please
I am using a Magic V3, with a magnetic case, but honestly, Qi never worked for me in a meaningful way other than in car charging. When I am using my phone, having a battery stuck at the back of the phone is more annoying than having a cable from a power bank. Not only is is lighter but more flexible. When using a phone in bed or at a desk, I have to disengage the charger everytime I am to use the phone which does not give me any real benifit from using a cable.
@@drajitshekherMost Xiaomi flagships that come out of China have 50w wireless charging though... Mi 14 had 50w and Mi 14 ultra had 80w.
@@witchmomorency297 Do these proprietary charging solutions also charge Qi2 devices or at least MagSafe?
And why does a proprietary fast charging solution not lock me in? I can only use chargers for fast charging that are compatible with that specific technology. With Qi2 I am not locked in anywhere.
And besides, why would I want super fast charging in the first place? The night is long and for faster charge during the day I use a cable. Even Qi with 7.5W is good enough for that.
@@henfreetravel What do you mean by a battery stuck at the back for Qi charging? It does not have magnets so you have to put the power bank on a table and add the phone on top.
As for MagSafe I will put phone and power bank in some pocket. Not having a cable is a big benefit.
At my desk I do not have the need to charge the phone and in the rare exceptional case I charge it via cable when convenient.
And since I put my phone on a Qi2 charger at night no doom scrolling anymore. I read a book instead. I sleep longer and better now.
15-25W are OK for wireless charging because we charge the phones like that only when sleeping, at the desk when working or in the car during long drives.
Wireless charging just seems like a slow, lazy way to fry your battery. I've used my charger maybe twice in two years. It's just too inefficient, can't see the benefit. I prefer the peace of mind of a good, wired, proprietary charger. And whilst I also have a magsafe cover for my Android phone, it's sole purpose for me is to mount it in the car holder, without me having to constantly look at the magnet or feel it in the back of the device.
The main benefit for me is when the main port isn’t working, either from being worn out or because there’s water in there.
if you have multiple devices wireless charging makes way more sense, why would you wanna plug them all in instead of setting it down and forgetting about it
What phone are you using? Samsung, google, apple? Well, thats all you americans have 💀
The benefit is you don't have to think about charging your device. Why do you care about efficiency? You aren't going to notice an increase in your power bill. Well made wireless chargers do not harm your phone. Oneplus proved that years ago.
Proprietary?????
Qi2 case on my fold5 is game changing. I use apps for tracking work that need to be open and don't work on Android Auto. It's so smooth being able to just pop it on the mount and it's working
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Apple is playing 4D chess
I’ve use MagSafe religiously. I really enjoy it. I don’t tend to charge my phone often because it lasts me all day most days.
But when I charge it at night I love being able to snap it onto my charging stand and not have to worry about it not charging with a regular wireless charger.
I used to own Samsung phones, I wouldn’t ever wireless charger due to it failing when it wasn’t lined up properly, and waking up to a dead or low battery phone was very annoying.
Charging aside. I love the amount of accessories also.
My phone stand, car phone holder, wallet, etc.
It is nice to be able to just snap something important to my phone and not worry about it.
I now have Pixel 6 Pro with Peak Design Mobile magnetic accessories and it is a godsent! So comvenient to just plop your phone whenever it fits. The only downside is the bulky case I have to wear on the phone at all times.
I skipped Pixel 9 for the reason it doesn't have Qi2.
Qi2 was never meant to replace traditional wired charging. It was always supposed to help you gain back a bit of battery by for example charging your phone in the middle console of your car while heading out to get groceries. Also, many of you as stated by yourself have never used wireless charging. You cleary never had the comfort of coming home, just kinda throwing your phone on the charger and having it charge, albeit slow, without having to fiddle around with the cable. We are tech people, we dont represent how the majority uses their phones.
Yeah, we have the comfort of not having our phone battery being fried up
If "fiddling around with a cable" is anything remotely approaching an issue for you, I'm sorry but you need to have your mental faculties examined
You are tech person but you are want to people use worse tech over comfort xd you are Comfort person and you seem from this comment that you don’t care about facts and care about feeling of comfort.
@@hellishsavitar7522 That doesn't happen with well made wireless chargers.
It feels like Android users here are making the same kind of excuses iPhone users usually make when Android users tout a feature they don't have-"the phonemakers know what's best for you and that feature isn't worthwhile anyway".
This is one of the reasons why I returned the Samsung s24 plus - refusing to adopt pro-consumer features while also removing features like the brightness slider on always on display. These premium Android phones aren't worth the asking price.
Chinese brands are popular in Asia Pacific and even Europe. They support way higher charging speeds. Qi2 has no use case basically in this market. As the American market doesn't have access to Chinese brands, they are happy with slow 15W charging
You can still buy oneplus phones online in the us although almost no one does.
@@MegaLokopo Xiaomi is their direct competitor and because of how they`re launched Xiaomi is better than samsung for 6 months of the year and then samsung takes the crown for another 6 months. Really cool cuz you can experience best of the 2 worlds(Xiaomi launches with best cpus earlier than samsung but then samsung comes out with better zoom, screens and battery life). I just bought last years Xiaomi 14(one of a few small flag ships. Not ultra level flagship but very decent snap 8g3 etc.) and I hope she`ll enjoy it. I`ll buy myself galaxy S25 ultra probably when it comes out but I`m not shure though for now at least. Xiaomi UI looks almost like apple so it`s very easy to transition from ios to android here (looks very similiar but supports universal back button which is a total game changer)
chances id ever buy a chinese phone with chinese software: 0%
@@chucky29949You've never even had one. First try sth then judge. Chinese phones are bad cuz I don't like china
Thoughts on the HMD Skyline as a phone?
Its price is trash for its specifications, don't buy it.
The bigger question is why do they insist on having charging be so slow when oneplus has much faster wireless charging?
Long term battery life and safety are some percentage of the answer. There’s a lot of waste heat in wireless charging, which reduces component life for the battery and the CPU.
@@JasonJrake The heat is only an issue if you let it build up in the device. If you have a charger with a fan built in, the over temperature of the device stays lower, and no more damage is done than with a wired charging. The damage comes from the temperature achieved, not the amount of heat generated. Charging your phone in direct sunlight with a cable will do far more damage than charging wirelessly while it is in front of an air conditioner.
That is why any phone will charge slower if it is already hot, and charge much faster if you keep the temperature lower. The power being delivered wirelessly makes no difference, the only thing that matters is the temperature of the battery.
@ this makes sense, good to know. I generally only wireless charge if I get water in the charge port (I have to use my phone for work tasks that drain it quickly), while it dries out.
I stuck a magnetic ring sticker and stuck it on my fold 3. The wireless charging is a nice side benefit to the amazing magnetic mounting benefit.
Every year they spend billions of dollars to make more efficient chips, try to create more sustainable supply chains, etc. Why then force inefficient wireless charging onto us? I'm happy with wires.
To abort ports. Why need a charging port which can break over time?
@@ThePianist51 Why break your battery faster while your charging port could last the whole life of the phone theoretically and is replaceable?
@@ThePianist51I think this is a problem of phone repairability, not necessarily the port itself. (both wireless and wire charging suffer from this problem in different extent, but the underlying problem isn't necessarily either's fault)
Nobody is forcing it on you, it’s called having options.
yes, wireless charging is less mechanical, and would be more reliable, but i dont think wasting so much power and loosing so much mobility is worth it to preserve the port
my 5 year old phone's charging port is still in a good shape? i dont know how can the insignaficant wear and tear on it be a problem for you guys? i think making replaceable ports would be easier than getting rid of it
I think that a metal contact magnetic charger could be much more efficient than coils, cheaper to produce, and allow for data pins. This could give rise to not only a charging standard but an ecosystem of smartphone attachments
Here is why manufacturers are wrong. (and so are most consumers).
1. You need a battery that lasts a day (even when the phone is 2-3 years old) --> completely invalidates the charging speed dilemma because 5W is more than enough for your overnight charge, plus you avoid heating up your phone (and reducing the life expectancy of your battery).
2. It's okay if you forget to charge overnight. That's what fast wired charging is for. Less heat, more speed. --> again, why would you want fast wireless charging?
3. Magnets are worth more than the charging itself. Car mount? Desk stand? Accessories on the back of your phone? Yeah, why not? This is what actually matters.
--> There is absolutely no reason not to adopt Qi2 and it's actually superior to all the 50W wireless crap from Chinese manufacturers.
Idk who's still using only 5w for a charger, but yes! Fast charging is indeed still bad for most batteries.
MAYBE something on the horizon can put up better than what we have, be last I checked, manufacturers are resorting to either software tricks to TRY an alleviate this factual issue, of not using multiple batteries that are being "rotated."
I'd imagine most of these people fixated on their phone go from 2% to 80% in a few minites are social media hores that refuse to unplug themselves, or foll who work on their devices.
Definitely not technically inclined whatsoever.
This. I *want* my wireless charger to be slow. Put it on the nightstand and let it charge up slowly making the battery last longer.
I have this same confusion with that one ultrasonic fingerprint scanner qualcomm made. Not the one used in samsung phones, there's one that's significantly bigger and can scan a new finger in one press and has a much larger detection area. But only one phone has used it to my knowledge, one of the vivo phones if I'm remembering right.
I think new pixel phone (at least some of them) have the new ultrasonic fingerprint reader
Wireless is too inefficient. Every phone charger should just have a trip-free magnet like MacBook chargers.
The phone i have the "Infinix Note 40 Pro 5G" is Qi 2 enabled but does not have magnets inside the phone, instead it comes with a case which has the magnets in it, like the oppo, but they give the case for free included in the box and the phone itself is the only one which supports wireless charging at all in it's price segment of around 20-25k INR or 230-300 USD. And the phone itself is very good even though it doesn't have a powerfull processor it's a good feature packed phone
I only care about speed. Once you get used to a 120W wired charger, there's no going back. 15W would seem equivalent to not charging at all. So unless I get 80W+ wireless, I am sticking to my 120W wired charger.
These crazy high wattage charging rates on these cheap Chinesium phones are absolutely TERRIBLE for battery longevity though. Going past around ≈60W without crazy active cooling is god-tier idiotic.
@@Cooe. Longevity lol. I could get half a dozen of these Chinesium smartphones every alternative year for the price of a single iPhone Pro Max. And these Chinesium phones stay in the latest and greatest of technology. Been using the 120W for well over a year now, and haven't noticed any out of the ordinary battery drains.
@sandeepsrinivas7 Good for you. Keep bragging about needlessly destroying the planet. 🙄🤦 And there are more phones options than Xiaomi & BBK brands and iPhones genius. 😑
Also, I'm not even saying Chinese phones are inherently bad. But battery killing super fast ultra high wattage charging in a world where phones don't have replaceable batteries is d!p$h!t arse idiotic. 🤷
Also lol only absolute l0s3rs upvote their own comments! 🤣
@sandeepsrinivas7 Good for you. Keep bragging about needlessly destroying the planet. 🙄🤦 And there are more phones options than Xiaomi & BBK brands and iPhones genius. 😑
Also, I'm not even saying Chinese phones are inherently bad. But battery killing super fast ultra high wattage charging in a world where phones don't have replaceable batteries is d!p$h!t arse idiotic. 🤷
Also lol only absolute l0s3rs upvote their own comments! 🤣
@@Cooe. And not to forget, they actually give you the 120W charging brick with the phone.
I use my iFruit as my alarm clock beside my bed, so it sits on a stand and the clock switches to night-clock and calendar. It has all night to charge so I am not worry about the speed it charges. As far as charging it during the day, in case I forgot to put it on the wireless stand- I always use wire to speed things up. I wouldn't bother with a wireless charger.
Ive been using magsafe on my androids with a case since it was first released and i also have no idea why no other manufacturers are adopting it. My best guess is that they're afraid consumers won't know it's an open standard now and so nobody wants to be the first because it feels like an apple ripoff, but apple has always been a leader in feature development for smartphones so i dont see why that would stop anyone. I hope to se qi2 on my next android though.
Note: I use a OnePlus and love supervooc charging, but to me they have different purposes. Supervooc is for getting a fast charge when I need it, and qi2/magsafe is for keeping my battery high with minimal effort.
The skyline screen having curves but the phones not is super weird
Dope video! But like, it's magnets... That's it... I just mean that it's nothing magical or whatever, apple just put magnets in their phone
But that makes it much more practical and easy to use
@@hannes6114 It makes it practical, but not easy, to use. 😅 Still, it is slow and gets heated.
@@JEEVANMARATHE yeah, but is still a very noticable improvement in my opinion, wired charging is still superior though.
Those magnets are game changer lol.
Not magical but practicle.
@@hannes6114 Yes, for quick charging with a wireless power bank, it is essential; otherwise, a wireless power bank is incredibly inconvenient to use. However, using a wireless charger doesn't make sense because of the slower charging and, primarily, the heat it generates over time. So, I would say it makes it more practical but still not usable in the normal sense.
The better question is why there isn't a single phone with type c 4.0 (tb 3) despite the fact that there's been multiple ipads with it.
It's pretty pointless for a phone. Especially for majority of people. Why spend extra on something that people only use to charge with a 5W brick? iPads have a different user base so it makes sense to provide that stuff, but phones are just for general use
A lot of people in the comments seem to miss the point about MagSafe. The various magnetic attachments and accessories do make a difference. I even use the charger quite often.
The USB C port on any phone can get damaged over time (happened to my iPad after plugging a very tight Samsung USB C cable that came with the T5 SSD) The wireless charging will be invaluable if you don’t want to fix your port.
As long as wired charging is available with wireless, there’s no harm!
atleast in a smartphone i've never ever seen someone damaging their port and it not working(even for 5 year old phone)
ive never had a failed usb port in my lifetime
@@divitkarekar5803I’ve had two phones who’s port stopped working, like they still charge but you have to fiddle with the charger a lot and if there is a slight bump (like if you put your phone down or move it at all) it would stop charging.
Don’t damage cheap port! Damage more valuable battery instead!
Great logic ;)
@@kinglegoiiiIn 99% of such cases it's just dirt in the port. Had it several times and after the cleaning it worked fine perfectly afterwards
I have an Infinix Note 40 Pro. It has Qi2 wireless charge, with the base included in the box. Not a common feature.
Looking up their website it looks like Infinix has a self-developed magnetic system that is not Qi 2. They aren't listed as Qi 2 certified on the WPC website either, so the tech might be similar, but it's not officially Qi 2
@@TechAltar Interesting, yep, very similar and apparently compatible with iPhones and Qi2 phones.
Pretty much every wireless charging solution is on average less convenient than wired. You either have to lay it flat on a base and can’t use it while it’s being charged, or you have something like MagSafe that’s a puck on the back (pretty much wired and doesn’t work with all accessories). Car wireless chargers are usually the worst, the phones run hot and barely take on any power. Not to forget they’re many times slower than wired charging.
Can’t wait to have true wireless charging where you flip a switch and your phone charges from anywhere in your room, house, car, etc.
Buy a Oneplus phone. Buy a 50 watt wireless charger for your desk at home, your desk at work, and wherever else you set your phone down. I don't even have the battery indicator on my phone turned on, because charging my phone is not something I have ever thought about since I switched to Oneplus.
Car wireless chargers are not going to "barely" take on any power if it has MagSafe because it would be properly aligned. At home, the MagSafe design is mostly for the nightstand type charger where you just snap it on. Ever since upgrading my iPhone it was *way* more convenient than a wired charger since it aligns itself so easily and it's much easier to take it off / put it on especially at night. The whole point of MagSafe is so you don't have to lay it flat on a base and/or fiddle with aligning it properly.
The one modern feature I want in my phone. I know 15W is not fast but being a standard and easy to put in a car or bike is very convenient.
Wasting 20% or more of electricity just so one can evade plugging in a plug? Sorry, I can't see the benefit, iPhone or not.
Is a backup option to charge your phone if your port stops working. It helps phones to last longer without you having to take it to a shop.
@@kinglegoiii I have never had a port fail on me.
Water proofing without a port is much easier. There are many more habits you could change to make a bigger difference than not using wireless charging. Pull over and calm down if you are ever driving angry, you'll save more energy in a day, than you waste wireless charging for a year.
@@MegaLokopo There is always something making a bigger difference, so that you can justify doing nothing at all. Phones are waterproof enough. I never had any issue with water damage, nor do I know anyone who ever had issues with that either.
Sure, if you actually have specialized applications where a phone, a camera or whatever needs to be perfectly water tight, for diving purposes etc. wireless charging is an option. Then this inefficient technology has a rational justification. If you want to replace a simple cable with a bulky charge eating up desk space all the time, you don't.
PS: I don't drive. I take public transportation.
@@sagichnicht6748 It isn't about justifying doing nothing, it is about making the biggest difference you can with the limited time you have available throughout your life.
I also take public transportation, I have never owned a car. I just assume everyone else does because almost everyone else in the US does drive.
I have never had a phone water damaged, but I live nearly as far away from water as I can. Other people live near or on water, and why shouldn't companies make the best phones they can? Water damage is a common failure of phones as well as dropping, and the space taken up by the port, could be better used to make phone more drop resistant as well.
With or without a wireless charger, I would have my phone on a angled vertical stand just by my preference so it doesn't take up any more space on my desk if my phone charges or not, it is on the same stand either way, and it takes up less space than my phone lying flat.
My S24 is in a case (dbrand grip) has the qi2 magnet ring. With the 15w superfast wireless charging that already exists... I functionally have it. I use qi2 chargers constantly.
I think apple 8:24 learn a lot from the Lightning port "be the standard". My opinion if Lightning port was way better but speed did not catch on. USB-C port seems easier to be broken than lighting ports.
Lightning was never offered as a standard genius. 🤦😑 Nobody but Apple was allowed to use it, which was literally the whole point. And inside it was just dogs][!t USB 2. USB-C is more fragile because it has more pins that let it do things like USB3-4, DisplayPort video over USB, etc... It's easy to make an insanely tiny, durable port when literally all it needs to deal with is power and circa 2003 data transfer speeds.
Qi 2.1 will mainly bring in the Magnetic Case extension certification to speed up the adoption of the MPP through the official accessories
It doesn't make too much sense to me: Samsung and Google want to compete with Apple, so instead of switching to a new, better wireless charging protocol they... Stick with the old, worse one? How does that help them persuade customers to choose their product instead of Apple's?
I think they're following Xiaomi & Other Chinese brands on making their own Protocol with Magnetic case instead. For me that's the way to go.
@@elclark_id How is that the way to go? Just because you hate Apple?
@@Yeetoh-t5f Because it doesn't take much space (it takes way more space than a headphone jack) and is an excuse to lower or not improve the battery live
They just did lol S25U confirmed Qi2
In this comments section: People who have never used Wireless Chargining on a daily basis claiming it's pointless and useless.
Reeks of "Nobody wants wireless headphones! They're pointless!"
There's still people clamoring for a headphone jack on almost every new phone review, when I would at this point just straight up not buy a phone that wastes internal space on it... I will never ever want to spend 2 minutes untangling messy cables only to plug in and find out the cable is broken again for the 3rd time this week. They must only be using their phones at home.
I wonder how many of them are commenting on their phone via WiFi 🤔
@@JanVernyI've been using wired headphones for my whole life and in the last 5 years I have broken one pair of headphones
I use them daily on my commute to work
I'd much rather spend 30 seconds untangling a cable than having the wireless buds just turn off and asking to be charged
I'm glad Sony Stil makes flagship phones that have a headphone jack
@@Space_Reptile See in the last five years I have never had my wireless buds run out of juice. But in the five years before I did have two broken headphone jacks and seven headphones that all ended up having a broken cable.
@@JanVerny "See in the last five years I have never had my wireless buds run out of juice. " Unless you somehow achieved unlimited energy and power, you're just making up BS now.
As for the broken cables, maybe stop looking for "good deals" and buying cheap $10 earbuds?
I use Spigen clear cases on both Android and iOS phones. For those with the 16 series iPhones, they offer cases with the same style Camera Control button as Apple.
Biggest issue with phone charging isn't the speed at all. It's that smartphones lack smart charging. Because of that you can't charge overnight, and so you need to charge quickly at some point during the day. If I could tell the phone that I want to have 90% when I wake up, I would probably never need charging faster than 5W.
A faster wireless charger doesn't solve this. It just adds a magnet that makes the phone more bulky, that's why manufacturers don't feel like adding it.
There is an app called macrodroid that solves this problem with a bit of setup. Also, charge your phone before bed, and have it set to turn off whenever you go to bed, and turn back on just before your alarm clock.
It depends on the use case. I think a lot of Americans may not realize how dependent an average Chinese is on their phone. If you walk around China you see a *lot* of rental chargers. The ubiquity of WeChat/Alipay QR code is kind of a double-edged sword because you end up using your phone a lot more (and camera usage costs power) and if the phone dies you suddenly can't do a lot of things. We are talking about parking lots that use QR code and you won't be able to order food in most restaurants.
@@BrotherCheng Getting through a day of modest use is usually not that difficult. Though when abroad I do see that I sometimes charge 2-3 times a day (from a powerbank). But that is also not a situation where the speed of charging matters. Most important thing is to be able to slowly charge when it's convenient. Then you will quickly realize that faster charging is pointless.
@@JanVerny I mean, the market in China clearly demands a faster charging. People don't always want to charge slowly or lug around a brick.
I really like the magnet for mounting to accessories, however I also would LOVE fast wireless charging
Wireless charging is a solution, desperately looking for a problem.
@@canadiguzel amen 😂
Actually we found a problem it can tackle recently, Raytheon just landed a contract to develop wireless power transmission for entire military bases. So the idea is if your on base you won't need to use batteries, it'll simplify logistics. Well in theory, in practice it'll probably be a boondoggle.
Wait, so is the new Apple Magsafe charger already Qi 2.1?
I don't care about the wireless charging part. The accessory market is what is beneficial to users. To have the option to easily use a support in the car. Or an a desk. And so many options are out there.
I will not for a long time use fast charching, the heat kills the battery long term, the magnet could get stuck on a magnetic surface and reduces internal space of the phone that could have resulted in a bigger battery
QI 2 is already obsolete. Chinese phones can do 50w wireless charging with their proprietary standards.
magnets.
I just stick my Fold 6 onto an Anker Qi2 car mount because it was the best design. I only really use it for the magnetic attachment, so the not very compatible and slow charging is fine to just keep it topped up, plus it doesn't heat up.
The panorama shots you made are excellent. Highly recommend that place you took them at to get an amazing view of Berlin.
Thanks for the video, im just as baffled as you are
does it have to visually be seen? i don't feel I'd need the feature as much, probably a nice-to-have tops, if it means my phone has to look like that.
Bro if a lot of companies used it, it would mean it is really good but if that would have been the case Apple wouldn't have released it to everyone bc why would they give away their good profitable things?
I dont think wireless chargers need to be as fast/powerful as wired chargers. Most people are just docking their phones for the night, at their desk at work, or in the car. Usually for hours at a time. The usage of the chargers means making them faster will cause battery degradation to happen quicker.
My UAG case aligns the magsafe magnets with my S24 ultra perfectly. I can use all magsafe charging docs or car holders.
In magsafe you need two hands to plug out , but in normal wireless charging, just put the phone up and down , that's so easy.
It looks like Apple did the same thing with Magsafe that Google did for RCS
I have galaxy s23 ultra, I have a magsafe style case, a non magsafe wireless charger base next to my bed, and a magsafe compatible mount in my car. It's brilliant not having to clip the phone into a holder (my car has wireless android auto). It doesn't worry me too much about timescale to charge.
I know S-pen doesn't work right near magnets. Don't know why others aren't integrating it. But it is a good tech for chargers, stands, car phone holders. I have always used Pitaka cases since before Apple made MagSafe on iPhones.
I seem to be in a different boat to most commenters here. I rely heavily on Wireless charging. I live in an overly humid accomodation, my phone often detects moisture and refuses to charge via wire.
My phone is a Samsung S20. I use a standard wireless charging pad - it takes 2 - 2.5 hours to charge.
A full charge by wire takes 1.5 hours.
That difference is _negligible_ to me. I dont mind in the slightest. I dont _need_ faster on wireless - thats already lighting fast to me
I have magnetic charging deck on my desk for when I'm going to sleep. Great to wake up to a fully charged phone without having to plug it in