Why You Don't Need 10,000 Hours to Master a Skill | Robert Twigger | TEDxLiverpool

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  • @Cornishcelticherbalist
    @Cornishcelticherbalist ปีที่แล้ว +36

    sum :
    it doesn’t matter how often you practice, it’s matters *how* you practice.
    Most masters have learned the ‘micro-skill’ of their discipline. They learned it for the fun of being to able to say ‘I’ve learned that!’
    There are also ‘entries’ to the micro-skills, for example holding your hand in a certain way to draw a better circle.

  • @davidlocke2664
    @davidlocke2664 3 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    I'm a bass player and I'm at7,080 hours of practice, and I'm just getting good to feel it. They say 8000 is good and 10000 great and so far it's on par. After 6600 hours advancement started increasing rapidly and if this keeps up over the next 1000 hours I should reach good by then. I practice 16 to 20 hours a week.

    • @SAHILKHAN-vk2zz
      @SAHILKHAN-vk2zz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I would love to hear you play.upload a video

    • @happiness6746
      @happiness6746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@SAHILKHAN-vk2zz thats the nicest comment i've seen😊...your friends are lucky..

    • @SAHILKHAN-vk2zz
      @SAHILKHAN-vk2zz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@happiness6746😄 that's the nicest comment I have ever seen man.
      Thank you so much ❣️

    • @kaiothan3722
      @kaiothan3722 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I really respect people dedicated to their craft. Just the commitment alone on consistently doing it.

    • @romainpons3246
      @romainpons3246 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know you were at 7080 hours ? Do you count every hour ? that's insane. I hope you reached the 10k milestones since then !

  • @bernards6115
    @bernards6115 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This video is changing my approach to learning forever. His emphasis on how we learn as children by doing and not by reading has opened my eyes to consider a more practical oriented approach to learning. He also encourages us to learn by having fun or getting interest in whatever we are learning by approaching it like how kids learn by experimenting. I cant thank you enough. I am grateful.

  • @beyondallreason-du4pq
    @beyondallreason-du4pq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this man gets me, i don't understand what passion is or looks like

  • @lifetelz5359
    @lifetelz5359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I get his point. Getting to learn something can be challenging because of the boring instructions but his way of thinking is very smart because micro mastery makes a lot of sense. In my point of view, Micro mastery is when finding a simpler way of learning something than the traditional. And this doesn't require 10k hours or spending a lot of money for education but finding a simple way and practicing it every week or day whatever it makes learning better and more than I thought. I tried to find that recently and Im making progress

    • @beyondallreason-du4pq
      @beyondallreason-du4pq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i like how you call it instructions...now its clear to me what i am not doing right...clearly i wasn't following instructions

  • @vanille9749
    @vanille9749 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The goal of this video is to enjoy learning and be proud of your achievements even if you think they are little the fact they are not because you are achieving something .you in the past you were not, like he said master how to enjoy learning and if you don’t you will not learn anything , small steps with a lot of love can make a huge difference in your life which would lead you to hapiness.

    • @Brukrex
      @Brukrex 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How would one focus on one thing. I literally want to learn everything?

  • @dAvrilthebear
    @dAvrilthebear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Of course there are fun microcosms of the whole subject that you can meet along the way of mastering it. But the problem is that usually it becomes less and less fun as you dive deeper into it, untill you reach an advanced level, where you really start enjoying what you can do... Only the best teachers are able to give the students some fun bits scattered all along the learning curve...

  • @TheIllerX
    @TheIllerX 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pretty good and inspiring speech.
    When you feel that you can quickly use what you have learnt and start creatively experimenting, it will feel more meaningful. It is a way of directing your focus from some external pressure "I have to become an expert and study for year" to internal motivation where you curiosity is the driving force.

  • @makotonarukami7468
    @makotonarukami7468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'm sure it took me 10,000 hours of playing Yu-Gi-Oh throughout the years to fully master it, and even when new formats, and rules get placed, I found that using Lightsworns are the best way to go, and I never stopped with that deck when playing in ranks.

  • @smarajitpunaykanti6463
    @smarajitpunaykanti6463 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Microcosm of science is Mathematics . That's why people good at maths are good at physics and other sciences . I understood it after my college life was over

  • @samuelatancha4591
    @samuelatancha4591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    They said it wrong. It's 10000 hrs to become world class in a field or skill.

    • @blop-a-blop9419
      @blop-a-blop9419 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not if your average world-class competiters have 20 000 hrs experience.
      if you're factoring in competition, then the only criteria is how much your competitors work, compared to you, it's not abstract.
      (i mean there is also the criteria of "how" yo work, the method counts, but I meant, as a quantitative based criteria)

  • @aloksen626
    @aloksen626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I think this type of learning is quite compatible with current internet based self study culture.

  • @HARI-nm2iz
    @HARI-nm2iz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes to micro mastery yes to life thank you

  • @kalanzartwork7323
    @kalanzartwork7323 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just over 4,000 hours in billiards, found my passion late in life. But I’m always tryna get 4 hours a day at least for the next 5 yrs

  • @Kobe29261
    @Kobe29261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We give kids breaks during school because we KNOW what they are doing in between is no fun.
    Learning can be fun and challenging - about nobody has figured how to accomplish this!

  • @Self-taughtJay
    @Self-taughtJay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Life is experiments and experiences

  • @Chxhsg662
    @Chxhsg662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Holding the water bottle upside down is really bothering me idk why

  • @thisguyfks9250
    @thisguyfks9250 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People don’t understand the 10,000 hour rule. They hear 10,000 and lose their minds and don’t think about what the rule is telling you.

  • @samuraiking7
    @samuraiking7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you

  • @jdm3656
    @jdm3656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent video with very thought-provoking ideas, an impressive achievement for such a short watch.

  • @bobbysworld281995
    @bobbysworld281995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Practice Makes Perfect
    Perfect needs Love
    Love your Practice
    Master self-love to Practice Perfection

  • @stephenher
    @stephenher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I recently ran into futures and stocks trading; what would be the micro-mastery of trading skills?

    • @kent8728
      @kent8728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      First, you have to master yourself.. Being patience, being discipline, and master your skills and craft in trading. Like managing your risk, your analysis, reading the chart. Etc.

    • @stephenher
      @stephenher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kent exactly

    • @gilbertcandco
      @gilbertcandco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stephenher Very tight stops, cut your losses immediately, stay in trends as long as possible. You may stand a chance doing this.

    • @evanever
      @evanever 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think there are any. It's not really possible to become a master of something that relies on chance.

  • @rowanhodges2678
    @rowanhodges2678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Facts af, it only took me like 3 minutes to become a disappointment

  • @JenNagleInk
    @JenNagleInk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He is talking about Aspie's

  • @sakurious_1147
    @sakurious_1147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you want to be better at law, what would be the micro-mystery for that?

    • @bufdud4
      @bufdud4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Argue with people I guess

    • @jbernardo3384
      @jbernardo3384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Knowing why is that law created. Thinking about the day to day life of people without such legislation.

  • @mohdiqbal2120
    @mohdiqbal2120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it a really works

  • @thompsonevergreen8006
    @thompsonevergreen8006 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Disturbed me that he was walking around with an empty water botlle and holding it upside down

  • @suizaband
    @suizaband ปีที่แล้ว

    cutting oileve oil with butter? are you serious? olive oil is gold is like cutting an spanish wine with water

  • @owendigity1581
    @owendigity1581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Only took one minute to realize that this guy grew up with a trustfund.

  • @ГітаЗахир
    @ГітаЗахир 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What if I want to learn physics ? What is the omelet of physics ?

    • @priyanshu5098
      @priyanshu5098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what I do is I force myself to think about the application of physics, think about flow rate and equations of fluid dynamics when you are taking a shower the next time, or maybe science behind tornadoes or equations of thermodynamics when you are sitting in air conditioner. You can go on!

    • @Kobe29261
      @Kobe29261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@priyanshu5098 Your answer can be summed up as 'be inspired' and for most people this will depend on a mentor/teacher. Passion is contagious; at least 1/2 of teachers would prefer to do be doing something else; you can see this in the quality and motivation of students

    • @smarajitpunaykanti6463
      @smarajitpunaykanti6463 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The micro omlette of physics is being good at maths

  • @vishalsnayak
    @vishalsnayak ปีที่แล้ว

    Instead of focussing on completing 10000 hours focus on completing an hour today cause people who vompleted those 10000 hours never focussed on it...

  • @hyperdiper5067
    @hyperdiper5067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wanna see Gordon Ramsey's reaction while hearing from this man that Gordon isn't good at making omelette 😂😂😂

    • @user-og9nl5mt1b
      @user-og9nl5mt1b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was giving an example

    • @flyingknee23
      @flyingknee23 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-og9nl5mt1b Not a good one

  • @pinny492
    @pinny492 ปีที่แล้ว

    In fact, 10,000 hours is no where near sufficient. It could be 3,000 hours or 30,000 hours. Depends on the Talent of the individual....

    • @Yo-ey4ue
      @Yo-ey4ue 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wrong

    • @godly1372
      @godly1372 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Yo-ey4ue how come?

    • @lagracemomotemgoua9711
      @lagracemomotemgoua9711 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@godly1372the point is not talent but practice. Studies have shown that practice beats talent everytime. So saying it depends on the talent of the individual shows you missed the point.

  • @Mr.BVogel
    @Mr.BVogel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate his philosophy very much. This is inspiring for hobbies and enjoying life and simply enjoying learning something new.
    However.. we must be careful because this is clearly misleading and NOT mastery of an art and not to be compared to that topic, which is what the 10,000 hour rule was referring to - a deep mastery of an entire field / art form.
    The title of this talk should be changed IMO.
    Otherwise, I appreciate his inspiration to just go learn something new and get skilled at it!

  • @kchuaw4500
    @kchuaw4500 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Feel like being cheated

  • @votrungtinh4958
    @votrungtinh4958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    bs talk

  • @FiveTwo_Nick
    @FiveTwo_Nick ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been breathing for more than 240 000 hours now and I'm still no expert...

  • @pepe7drum
    @pepe7drum ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I disagree with the title, I get his point but if you really want to be great at something you better do it as much as you can, who you rather hire a drummer who barely practice or a drummer that has 10,000 hours of practice?
    Who will win a fight between a mma fighter that trains three days a week or a guy who goes to the gym twice a day 6 days a week?
    Is simple you want to be the best then do the grinding first

    • @raven-sf3di
      @raven-sf3di ปีที่แล้ว

      And why would you want to be the best ?
      You don't need to be the best writer before you write your book.
      a lot of mid level book writers can make enough money to support themselves.
      You don't need the best drummer to work in the music industry
      And who is the better fighter ,the one who spends all his time in the gym on the bags ,or the one who spends his limited time in the ring.
      A good example are old ace pilots , they became the best because they were pushing themselves to new levels during practice (showing off) and then transferred those skills to combat ,they didn't become aces because they did the same thing for a long time

  • @Mzansi74
    @Mzansi74 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There are no shortcut. Trying to "beat" the 10000 hours is a sign that you are not destined to become a master.

  • @mikarocke4747
    @mikarocke4747 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The harmonious eggnog bodily itch because condor chemically buzz astride a hallowed bonsai. careful, cool cheese