Come to Domain Format! We play games with 60 card highlander decks with a (balanced rules) deckmaster, in 4 player pods! It’s the most fun I’ve have playing in a long time! I make content about it if you’re curious.
Edison Format sounds like the way to go. That era was my favorite Yugioh era. Yugioh really came into its own while keeping the power level fun and approachable. I could still read the cards without squinting
Tengu Plant > Edison > Goat imho. BTW i agree on the cards text issue a lot. New Yugioh Cards nowadays have too much text and the fact that most of the duel is decided on Turn 1 with combo decks makes the game unappealing to returning/new players because to play a game and understand what's going on you need to watch combo videos on youtube first, otherwise you won't understand a single thing of what's happening. During the Synchro and XYZ Era you could just learn the game by playing, now you have to study the theory if you want to play the game and frankly it's just ridicoulous. Is modern yugioh more complicated? Probably, but the first thing a game should be is : FUN . AND MODERN YUGIOH IS EVERYTHING BUT FUN.
The game literally changed overnight. The day before MAMA I was in a tournament and saw 5 different decks. MAMA release day. Of my 4 rounds of Swiss I lost to 4 ishizu tear. Im a rogue deck player so I expect to lose, however I also expect to have a turn if I win the die roll.
Something I though Konami should try that Cardfight Vanguard does is doing choice restrictions on their ban lists. Just as an example (not saying this would solves everything) they could choice restrict Havnis and Kelbek where neither can be played in the same deck together. This could also be a way to remove card from the list that are broken by specific interactions.
It isn't completely impossible but to think you have to add "can't put this and that in the same deck" for every new pack released in case the abomination stuff happens. Yugioh has too much card pool unlike Vanguard. That what my lit brother said when i told him exactly like you said.
Speaking of cubes, I just made a 3500+ card singleton cube that I've been drafting with my friends, and it's been a blast! Honestly, the most fun I've had playing the game, and it's helping me and my friend groups socialize more. There are so many insane game states and interactions that happen in these cube drafts since there is only one copy per card (with a handful of specific exceptions) And the best part is: It's constantly evolving with every set that is released! I get to be excited about pack trash nobody cares about and will probably give to me for free if I asked. Instead of looking at bad modern card design as a blight, I now see it as a potential fine addition to my collection. Silent Wolf Calupo? Bayerock Dragon?? THE GREAT DAMNED NOODLE INVERSION!?? Yes, please!
Konomi will never balance the game. They want people to have to go out and buy all of the new broken cards and then they'll release the next set of power crept cards and rinse and repeat. It's a scheme to milk as much money from the playerbase as possible which is why I stopped buying cards 2-3 years ago. I might buy certain singles of cards that I like but that's it. I'm not going to buy product just to chase shortprinted cards or to stsy in the competetive scene. It's just not worth it.
Joe Wright I agree 10000% am saying the same thing too "Having alternative formats is nice but doesn't solve the overall issue with this card game that NEEDS to be addressed & NO longer avoided."
The thing is though, some people still like current Advanced Format too so "fixing" it is not necessary the thing to do. The good thing about alt formats is that no single format is going to appeal to every player.
Speed duel is SO nice! It's like old school but with an enhanced card pool, some rueling twists and very cool decks - it is the other way YGO could have chosen.
I wish there was a larger car variety though a lot of the options in speed duel really just not all that interesting to me and kind of discouraging from making your own unique deck given that you have such a limited pool to draw from
@@existinginaspace8347 man, if we speak about YGO, you remember that currently we have a tier 0 format? There is no choice of creativity in the meta existing right now. Actually speed duels card pool isn't that small. You have most iconic cards from the first two anime series + some newer cards. You have acess to a lot of goat cards, such as breaker, d.d.warrior lady Don zaloog+++, but you also have archetypes like heros, cyberdeagon/DARK +++ just give it a trie, it is very different from the main game and If creativity is important to you, you definitley should play speed duels.
@@avagrim9891 You can still just do casual duels in the TCG. And there aren't as many archetypes or style of play in Speed as TCG. If you have a tryhard local and don't like online dueling then you are SoL with TCG. But you also aren't gonna easily find people to play Speed Duels with. One of my locals has Goat format tournaments but don't even sell Speed Duel product.
Honestly wish you mentioned HAT format as that is also a format that deserves the same level of love as Edison and GOAT (Though I understand Edison's popularity better). It's an amazingly diverse format and is very well balanced. I honestly enjoy it the most out of every format I tried (Though Edison is pretty fun too)
Rush duels is an alternative way to play Yugioh that wasn’t mentioned. There is the videogame on switch that covers early sets and there are plenty of simulators that let you play with the rest of the cardpool. Plenty of discord servers and resources online aswell that cover how it’s played !
Speed duels is what brought me back to Yugioh (played since the beginning until Pendulum). When I heard the Roids were coming, I finally caved and got the Duel Academy Box and I’ve been playing a lot of duel links.
Hey there! I’m a big casual player too, and I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
Two formats that weren't included were Reaper Format (2006) and Hat Format (2014), which are the other two formats that are more known by players, and they both have their own unique formats that have special things tied with them. I personally enjoy Hat Format for it being a more Control-oriented Format that does require resource management, knowledge of what other decks can do, has many unique decks, and you always have the ability to make a come back due to how difficult it can be for most decks to OTK the opponent in this format. There are also a variety of decks that include 12 meta archetypes, 10+ non-meta archetypes, and variations of each of these decks that you can make based on the inclusion of Hands, Artifacts, and/or Fire Fists, which can boost the power level of your deck significantly enough to be able to win tournaments versus the top tier decks. With all of this variety, you really do see like 7+ decks making it in the top cut of tournaments compared to other old formats with way less of a variety of meta decks.
HAT is a good format but has problems you'll see once the format gets played at a more competitive level. Infernity is a bane in that format and dice roll is more important in HAT Format than in other old formats due to the absence of Heavy Storm and the presence of Soul Charge.deks.
@@guaritalksaboutcards Infernity is easily hindered in this format due to bricking and the opp opening any 1 handtrap to stop them. Plus, it does take a good pilot to run the deck for an entire tournament, and that's why it stuck around the lower top cut back in 2014. The dice roll is a bit more important, but also not really due to the lack of OTKs that can be had in this format. You're looking at maybe 2-3 decks that can do it if they open all gas and the opp has absolutely nothing to stop them from doing so. Soul Charge also negates damage for a turn, so its not like they are killing you that turn, and negates aren't prevalent in this format at all either so.... As for the backrow situation, we have way more answers that the other popular old formats, because of Double Cyclone, Artifact Ignition, Fire Fist Bear + Tenki, MST at 3, Spiritualism, and many more cards act as generic backrow hate for the format. Which is why you shouldn't need Heavy Storm. To top it all off, we have some of the least currently banned and annoyingly op cards of any of the old popular formats. We have Maxx C, Vanity's Emptiness, Lavalval Chain (to a degree as it isn't a staple for every deck), and Soul Charge as the only problematic cards of the format compared to the 5+ problematic cards that lie in Goat, Reaper, and Edison formats respectively.
@@fornaximus7334 dice roll is more important when heavy storm doesn't exist. In formats where heavy storm doesn't exist the player who wins the dice roll has a much greater chance to win the duel. There were some studies on pojo about this thing. That's why No Heavy Storm + Soul Charge makes HAT one of the old formats where the dice roll matters the most.
@@guaritalksaboutcards You don't need Heavy Storm lol. You have enough backrow and backrow hate, that can also make you go plus in card advantage, that you can literally go second and mimic the opp's turn of setting their hand and passing. You are 100% fine with doing that since they won't be OTK'ing you from 8k LP in this format as well. Let's say we did have Heavy Storm in the format, it would be at 1, and you'd have to draw the 1-of. Which is so unreliable, and that's why you don't trust old Pojo Studies, because of how unreliable it can be to draw a 1-of in a 40 card deck. So Heavy Storm would make the smallest difference here, that it wouldn't even matter. As for Soul Charge, it is a card to look out for, but the best deck in the format not needing/using it shows that it isn't that big of a problem for the format. It's still there and it matters, but it matters a whole lot less when even the best deck of the format can't use it that well. Plus, if you are worried about this, then you can main deck Maxx C, Effect Veiler, Droll, or D.D. Crow to stop the opp from making a good board or looping with their cards. Let's say you don't have any of these either, and you had to go second versus a deck like Infernity, who has a good pilot that has had a ton of experience and etc, well you still have a chance at making a come back since everything they put up will be interruptions like pops and etc, with Infernity Barrier being the only big negate, and that's at 1. Then popping your set Artifact cards is also a plus for you as Sanctum can pop cards, Ignition can skip their battle phase, and the Artifact monsters can pop cards. So you are still able to win the game when going second even against the most cracked deck with the best pilot for it.
I make content about 4 player games with (balanced rules) deckmasters, 60 card highlander decks. It's seriously the most fun I've had playing Yugioh and building decks! Check it out if that sounds interesting to you!
Could I interest you in the best casual multiplayer format ever?? I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
Not sure how practical it would be but i think it might be fun to have a league system. Seperate tier 0 decks from the rest and play in it's own league and then have lower tiered decks 1, 2 etc in their own. And based on how well a deck performs it can be promoted or demoted. Kind of hard with all the archetypes and engines but just some food for thought.
The solution i've found rn is "Play Skull Meister" its literally just Ash Blossom but for the GY. Soul Drain is also pretty good this format, and its also playable at 3.
A "format" ive made up and played a few tumes with friends thats been a lot of fun has been basicslly a full twist on yugioh inspired by the anime where you make up what cards do as you play and if your oppenent doesnt think thats what your card does they can call your bluff on it and you then read the exact effect of your card and if it isnt what you said you skip your next draw phase but if it is what you said they skip their next draw phase. The idea is to make up stuff that makes sense or play absurd cards with weird effects/wordings. This works better with people that dont have an encyclopedic knowledge of random cards and is also very casual but a lot of fun, its also pretty nice to draft as slightly changing the wording of a card while still being convincing can get some crazy results. Although again doesnt stand in at all for actual yugioh and is an entirely different experience.
My friends and I have been playing Forbidden Memories Format. Basically only cards present in the game Yugioh Forbidden Memories card pool are allowed, and each turn, the turn player can only play/activate 1 card from their hand. Cards on the field can be activated without limit if they were set on previous turns. Cards that activate from the hand without going to the field (like Thunder Dragon) Don’t count. Also Polymerization is allowed at 3 copies, given Forbidden Memories’ heavily relying on fusion summon. Currently it is my favorite format to play, especially because I got to resolve the effect of Weather Report, which was hilarious.
@@joshuadansby2874 it would still be useful to counter cards and effects (Soul Charge, red eyes retro, scapegoat, return from different dimension, etc) that summon massive amounts all at once (which special summon multiple cards, but are still considered a singular spec summon). Which is what decks will be shifting towards to get the most put of their limited special summons. RIP Maxx C though 🙏 if there does come a limit.
One of my teammates and I have been super into Common Charity. I’ve built Tenyi, Cyber Dragon, and Skull Servant. So far he’s made dragon link, a trap monster deck, and is working on building Beetroopers too. It’s an amazing time not having to worry about cards that only have high rarity printings, like TTT, Accesscode Talker, Borrelsword Dragon, etc.
I've been working on a Rush Duel draft using some of their recent nostalgia products like the Battle City box and the Obelisk/Slifer decks. It's hard to nail some of the finer points of the format using non-Rush cards though, like deckout being actually relevant because self-mill is a common cost for card effects. Rush also has a much lower overall power level than Speed Duels since you get unlimited normal summons, which is also hard to nail down. Currently trying to see if I can get some friends together to try it out. Also, think it would be cool is there was a high-effort format that split the card pool into "clans" a la Bushiroad TCGs, and individually decide which "clans" get which cards. Like Mist Valley and Harpies could get Icarus Attack, while excluding it from Blackwings. There could also be a generic card pool that's usable by all clans.
Duelist Alliance - New Challengers format will always be my favourite. I miss Burning Abyss so much, I wish they could compete now. And I miss the variety of decks i'd see at regionals then from the remains of mythic ruler, sylvans, geargia and bujin, to the more meta shaddoll, qliphort and satellarknight. I never ran into the same deck twice, good times.
Back in primary school, if two kids wanted to play Yugioh but one of us didn't have a deck on hand, we'd just put the other deck in the middle and we'd both draw from it. I'd love to see this as a format.
@@dudono1744 Not a bad idea, but there's also a lot more room for shenanigans if both players also play from the same deck. For example, you could deliberately search multiple copies of the same card just to deny them to your opponent.
@@dudono1744 Same as the normal game: when a player has to draw, but there's no cards left in the deck, they lose. I think it would be fun to try and play a mill deck in this format - you can easily deck your opponent out, but you gotta be careful not to deck yourself out.
As a magic the gathering player I can say that alt formats are amazing! Our most popular format is a fan made format Commander four player 100 card singleton with a custom ban list. People realized they want a few things. 1. Playing with friends (4 Player) 2. Using the entire card pool. 3. Not having to deal with power creep as much.
Duel links is my favorite. Games can last to at least turn 5-7. The Red-Eyes deck and Blue-Eyes deck are fun to play. Nothing is overpowered. The GOAT format is my second favorite. Wow didn’t realize there was a singleton format!! That’s awesome. It’s like commander for magic.
riding(turbo) duel is quite cool. speed counters and stuff, makes the duel more interesting. especially in speed world 2, u can burn, draw, or destroy, it forms part of strategic play. and speed counters are like resources/mana to use spell(magic) cards.
A fun thing a few of my friends and I have been doing is a 10p card draft type thing. We go to one of our nearest card shops (geek retreat is one of the better ones) with £6 and attempt to build a fairly functional deck out of the 10p cards that they have in massive open top boxes on one of the shelves. We settled on £6 so you can dip into the 50p/£1 card binders as well and maybe pick up a mirror force or lightning vortex to power up your deck and give you an edge. Originally we had half an hour to look through the boxes but it just wasn't enough time so we settled on about an hour to build your deck. It's been really exciting and you can actually end up getting some good synergies; there is a nice back and forth to the duels as well. We also settled on a handicap of an extra pound to get some more cards if you're not fairing very well as a sort of handicap. Definitely worth trying this kind of thing out if your local card shops have boxes of the really cheap cards.
Duel Links is currently my favourite way to play YGO, and I'm very interested in Speed Duels because of it. I'm thinking about gettng those GX sets once I'm good with money and trying to get some friends into it.
Hey there! As someone who was brought back by Duel Links, I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
I found that 'Pegues Format' that you guy's played on your main Channel was Really Fun too, so much so I've decided to try it out myself and another friend of mines and we both liked and enjoyed it. So much so it is our Frequent Go To's whenever we are in the mood for Alt Format's
A year I tried to getting into yugioh and it just didn’t work out due to me not understanding some of the mechanics or wanting to put the time in and I tried playing with my gf and she wasn’t the biggest fan because she didn’t understand it to much either plus I only knew how to use blue eyes, although I was on and off with duel links but recently discovered speed duels (thanks to team aps) and picked up the gx box and the weevil v raptor decks and actually was able to play a fun game with my gf and even better she won so even though I know the basics of yugioh it would be hard to get my friends into it with regular format so I think showing new comers speed duels is a great way to get them into it as well as myself
I would already be happy, if ever a format catches on in which you take the usual advanced format but without negates, floodgates, removal during opponents turn and mass removal. Then both players would just build up their board and ran it into each other and use float effects and stuff. So you would still do crazy combos, but both players would actually do a lot of stuff.
My friends and I have been playing with a yugioh wheel (similar to tsx1) and it’s been a ton of fun. Trying archetypes we’ve never played and just playing more interactive games has been a nice refresher. Maybe we will delve back into meta stuff later but for now it’s been a great way to still enjoy the game.
I just built a Nurse burn deck, with extra cards to convert it into a small Darklord deck. I never played the game growing up, and I get some wins online with my deck. But it's not lost on me that what I like to play is definitely not going to win anything serious. It would be really nice to have other format options to try my luck out and push my into a new deck building direction by exposed to other cards and strategies.
I make content on a format I'm obsessed with! 60 card highlander decks, with a (balanced) deckmaster, in 4 player pods! I have a video on a game I played recently. I've been getting all my friends to build decks, this is seriously the most fun I've had playing, as I am an old school player too!
I think the best thing about yugioh’s history is they made a bunch of videogames. You get some nice snapshots in time. Only downside is if you want to play against people. I really want a great videogame, I would love to direct a yugioh game based in 5D’s because of the speed duel rules. The 2011 videogame is so fun, there’s also 2v2, 1v1 speed duel, 2v2 speed duel, and the story mode had the 3v3 tournament and a 1v2. I would love to have a better graphical game with online where you go around as a custom character and help out the 5D’s cast. Also since the game had such slow AI since it was on the DS having a modern fast version would be great. Please Konami put effort in the videogames, hire me, I’ll make the best Edison format game ever created. Hell if I had infinite money I’d put a goat section in as well. Just my 2 cents.
I would love to see Konami experiment with the Duel Links style of banlist, and I feel like Master Duel events are the perfect testing grounds for it. To be fair, there would be tons of headache at the start, but you could eventually end up with a banlist which prevents the best decks in a format from using power cards without taking major hits to consistency, resilience, or power.
I've wanted something like that for a while. Just putting all the powerful draw/search options into a "Limit 3" pool would force decks to use their archetypal searchers/draws or get a good generic one to make up for lacking their own, while simultaneously shutting off deep draw strategies that would string together all of them for FTK shenanigans like a few things are currently able to do. And then there's other fun stuff you can do with it like put a small amount of the most broken cards in the game that are currently banworthy into a "Hard 1" category shared with certain currently oppressive cards to help push certain other decks to that level of power without forcing them to run the same card themselves.
I'm looking forward to the future videos featuring these custom formats. Us Yugioh players get more burnt out than any other TCG because we don't have as many options. If Konami really wanted to revitalize the game they would add new sanctioned formats so that players would be able to take a break from an unpleasant format with something else.
Hey there! If you’re a fan of alt formats, I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
I don’t understand how Heart of The Underdog isn’t being pushed by every OTS and by Konami themselves. So many people have decks lying around that they love but can’t play because they get ripped apart by the meta. This would not only get more people into OTS stores (which makes them money) but it would also entice people to make more decks (which also makes them more money.) It also goes in line with Konami wanting people to buy product. There’s a new archetype that is being released in a new set that isn’t top tier crazy but looks fun and is decent? Cool now I can actually build it AND play it. Also any halfway decent deck that they shit out legacy support for instantly seems more viable to play IRL. If my OTS did this, I’d make 3 new decks TOMORROW. It’s a no brainer I don’t get why they don’t push this.
Yeah I agree having leagues would be great. I love playing ogdoadic but I took it to locals once and I went 0-5 the next week I took phantom knights and I won the event. Keep in mind this was right when ancient guardians came out so pk was very good then. There’s no incentive to play new non meta decks anymore it’s just a bad time all around.
So pushing heart of the underdog actually doesn't make Konami more money, since they don't make anything off the secondary market. They would have to push out more sets that specifically caters to those decks (which is a ton of archetypes/strategies). They'd also have to define what would be classified as a low enough tier to qualify, a completely separate ban list (which we all know how much they care about that), as well as still trying to cater to their primary audience, which is the competitive scene. Like it or not, from the business aspect of it, the casual base isn't what truly makes Konami the fortunes. The big events and OTS stores do. That's why Konami doesn't heavy push the past formats. They either wouldn't sell enough past product support, costing money, or not enough new stuff, costing money/the longevity of the game.
I LOVE the speed duel cards that have come out. I just finished building a deck called "Ojamas From Down Under." Think of a crossover of Ojamas and The Master of Oz (Aussie cards!). I played it at locals tonight (definitely not there to win) but to have fun seeing reactions to me playing such a weird deck! 🤣 I got to bring out 2 Ojama Kings in 1 duel and locked out all of my opponents monster zones! It was a crazy fun night, even with a super weak deck thats just there for the lols 😂
As always another awesome video! Didn't realize there were so many different ways to play. Also thanks for explaining GOAT been wondering about that for a bit.
Its quite fun as there are quite a bit of different decks to play. I was surprised at how much i didnt know about Back in the day. Also speed duals made goat much more accessible through reprints.
I'm excited to see what major differences the Team Duel meta will have on master duel, it seems really interesting as a game type, I'm just hoping it's not a temporary thing like the festivals.
Edison format is my jam. The early synchro formats in general are at that perfect intersection between old and new yugioh, where it is still card advantage based and you *can* play good stuff builds that are good, but you get to summon cool extra deck monsters and play archetypes if you’d prefer.
A command like format (singleton) would actually seem pretty fun. Pauper yugioh (only cards that can be used are commons) might also be fun haven't played ygo since I was a kid but I'm a huge commander player
I wish there was a popular format like trinity, that utilizes OG normal monsters to be useful. With some mechanic so it's not a pure statcheck of the same 3 monsters but for example them being a blocker or summoning condition and their stats harm you when it's removed form play or an element based system where water normal monsters always remove fire monster cards
This is funny this video appeared as i was doing research on this exact thing. My friends and I were doing a progression league together but eventually fizzled out and they all hate the current format. I couldn't find like a comprehensive just list of formats and what they are anywhere.
Hey there! I too yearn for an awesome way to play Yugioh, and I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
Honestly for me, konami needs to harsh-restrict archetypes effects only, not just limited to one-way summoning. I play chronomaly and eventho it has powerful OTK and negate capability, the archetype-only restriction kept me balanced and thought how to utilize non-archetype cards. Therefore, imo its interesting if YGO is shifting primarily to archetype-restricted battles. Types/attributes battle also interesting too.
I just started playing Yu Gi Oh again, last time I played it was still GX generation, can you make a video for beginners, because not only I want to play Master Duel but I want to buy cards and start to play on locals and stuff and I don’t anything about card prices
so my advice for you would be to first figure out whether you want to play competitive or semi casual. There are actually a surprising amount of decks you can get for cheap (obviously they won't be nearly as good as the super power meta houses like tearlament ishizu, but there are tons of decks that still can win). Check TCGplayer for card prices and look up deck profiles/deck showcase videos on youtube to see if there's a deck that personally resonates with you. 9 times out of 10 unless you've picked a super meta deck or a deck that randomly has low printing rate (or the outlier of fan-favorite decks like the waifu decks) you'll be able to pick up decks for quite cheap.
@@digitalduken9973 I dont know that yet, I want to try to imerse myself in the game again and see how I fit, but I wouldn’t go competitive cause I dont have time to it, semi competitive at max
I have always played old school yu-gi-oh. I stop following meta as soon as Synchro came out. I actually did incorporate some XYZ into my playstyle, but I pretty much only added XYZ cards to my old school decks. For instance, I have a Yugi and Kaiba deck. So I threw in some level four XYZ monsters, and level seven and eight XYZ Monsters, for Yugi and kaiba. I have a old school Pegasus deck, an old school Joey deck, but I powered up the Pegasus Deck with some new toon monsters (no XYZ), and I powered up the Joey Deck with some new XYZ Monsters. None of my extra decks are actually full though maybe 7 or 8 cards each. It's actually been a while since I've played them so I can't remember perfectly. I think the newest deck I have is the newest rise of the Dragon Lords, but I haven't touched that deck in ages so I don't remember anything about it. Then I also have a revamped dinosaur structure deck with a couple of dinosaur XYZ monsters and new dinosaurs support, and I have a revamped Warrior's Triumph Deck with a few Warrior XYZ Monsters and new warrior effect monsters and support backrows. And then lastly I have an old school Dark Magician spellcaster deck, with some Dark Magician support cards and a couple of spellcaster XYZ monsters. But the thing with adding my XYZ monsters, is that I don't have any XYZ support whatsoever. I just threw them into the decks just for the fun of it, but XYZ is not actually required to play those decks, I just threw them in just to add more Combos and strategy to the pre-existing Decks that I built years ago. I specifically chose XYZ because they are easy to summon. I stayed away from anything Synchro because of requiring tuners, I never tried links before, never tried pendulum, and any other New meta after Synchro I never tried. I always liked playing the old school way, the only thing that changed was throwing in a couple of XYZ just to spice up the old school style that I built my decks around. Every one of those decks have and cards as well, such as pot of greed (what does that do?). I have a group of friends and we play with those old decks whenever we duel, we all primarily mained certain decks, but we trade decks sometimes for fun. Even sometimes for fun we'll take out all XYZ extra cards just for the fun of it. We've enjoyed playing this way for years and it's been great. Theres never a clear cut winner for the duels, it's generally someone different, and the duels can last for an hour or more at times. Its honestly great I love it
some of the format mentioned should've been able to be played on Master Duel's duel room, so if you had difficulty finding cards or people, maybe this is sweet alternative
Unrelated: I'm a Magic Player who is trying to get into Yu-Gi-Oh (Master Duel). What Deck/Archetypes would you recommend? Someone advised me trying out Giant Ballpark (Which honestly reads like a fun card). I'm excited at the prospect that you could make Normal Monsters kinda sorta viable, or at least playing them without being complete garbage. All the different monster types with their massive amounts of effects dizzy me to be honest. I can't even read them properly because half their texts are referrals to other cards which I know nothing of. And could you make a video for people who are trying to get into Yugioh? Maybe some strategy tips, when to use your handtraps, when to save them and how to bait out your opponents' handtraps, or a general overview of the meta, those sorts of things? This game looks really fun, but hell is it hard to get into. And all the Yu Gi Oh content seems to be catered towards people who already know a lot about it.
I personally recommend Umi Control for Master Duel, it is a really fun deck that can break boards and tell your opponent "no". But when it bricks, it bricks hard. You can easily reach Plat with it.
Format Idea: No spells/traps/effect monsters, you can only play non-effect monsters You dont need card effects to do things like special summon or ritual summon, if you get the cards in your hand and it needs another cards effect to be on the field; Ignore it, you can play it anyway If you have a cards required material on the field you can special summon it from your extra deck by simply removing those cards from your field
We as duelists may be struggling with this new T0 era but i can assure you mtg players are much much worse Im both so its crazy that konami is the good company and more affordable( ya really) game to play and has been for months prior and if wotc keeps this up for months to come
I’m going to come up with my own format following the rules my friends and I played by as elementary school kids (none of us held onto the rules sheets so we had no clue at all how to play and made it up as we went
Worst comes to worst, just go Play Magic the Gathering commander until the next ban list which will probably be in January. Well that or wait until the next few sets come out and fixes things. (Take this as half joke and half being serious.)
OR you could play 60 card highlander with a (balanced rules) deckmaster, in 4 player pods in the discord I'm in. It's seriously the most fun I've had playing yugioh! And its so fun building decks. I make content on it if you want to check it out!
Think a free-for-all multiplayer format would be great for YGO! Some big brains would have to ponder about how effects work affecting one player or multiple. For example: raigeki destroys 1 opponent’s monsters , dark hole destroys every players’ monsters.
I make content about just that! In my videos you can find links to the Discord I'm apart of (domain format), It's been growing like crazy. We play 4 player games, with (balanced) deckmaster rules, 60 card highlander decks. My pinned video explains the rules. I would love to see you there!
I've actually been working on an IRL Cross Duel format. Here, if you guys wanna try it out, you can use it: Zone Rules There are three Monster zones, and three Spell/Trap zones -Left zone is to battle the player on your left -Center zone is to battle the player across from you -Right zone is to battle the player on your right -Spells/Traps can be played against any player - if it targets monsters, you can only target ones you would battle -There is no Extra Monster zone Summoning Rules -You can Normal Summon up to 3 monsters, and you can Tribute Summon once per turn -Special Summons are unlimited Win Conditions -When a player reaches 0 LP or if a player runs out of cards, the Duel is over -Whoever has the most points by the end of the Duel is the winner Setup -Each player starts with 8000 LP -Deck must consist of 40-60 cards, and the Extra Deck can contain up to 15 cards -Every player states a number between 1 and 6, and a die is rolled. The number it lands on decides the player that can choose to go first or last, and turns go in a clockwise manner. If a number is rolled that is not guessed, roll again. -Every turn, at the start of your turn, you must draw until you have 6 cards in your hand. If you cannot, the Duel is over. -The fourth turn player can attack.
I think that the idea behind Trinity is great, but reducing the deck size to help increase consistency is (to me) counter-intuitive. If the problem is that the game is too fast/optimized, going against consistency is the best way to "solve it". As you said, Commander is a MtG format with singleton (only one copy of each card) rules but instead it has an increased minimum deck size (it also is a multiplayer format, so you kinda want games to go longer). If what you're looking is a casual way to play YGO, I would suggest giving normal deck size and only one copy of each card a try, and embrace the variance
I really hate the term combo in Yugioh. Getting free cards from other free cards is not a combo. It's a no-cost chain that Konami designed. Players aren't thinking up decks that combo 2 or 3 different effects to get an advantage. Everything is written on the card by konami telling you what to get/do. The next card in the chain tells you what to get/do. 5 chains later you get free unbreakable monsters that stop anything and can't be destroyed. No combinations are needed, just follow the text on the card.
I'll gladly play anything before links and pendulums were a thing, haha. I reject any summoning mechanic newer than xyz. Thats why synchrons are my favorite deck rn. The extra deck is nothing but synchros :)
Hi Paul, awesome video! I like the idea of playing different formats from snapshots in time. Do you have any experience with the early to mid 2014 format? This was right before pendulums and when I last played paper Yugioh at my local game store. I really enjoyed that format! If I recall correctly, it was very diverse: Artifacts, Mermails, Madolches, Samurais, Fire Fists, Lightsworns, Bujins, Geargias, Spellbooks, Dark World, Evilswarms, and my favorites, Ghostricks. I would love to hear your thoughts about this format! Keep up the awesome content!
I just play random jank against AI on YGOPro or randomly practice combos if I'm bored with a format. No need to worry about not being able to play the game when you can play with yourself. ಡ ͜ ʖ ಡ (Or what I think is underrated... _playing other games_ xD. Trust me. I love Yu-Gi-Oh!... Mostly but just because I do, doesn't mean I can't take a temporary leave and play other games)
If I was to fix how current Yu-gi-oh is played, I'd offer 2 suggestions: 1. A mulligan - This would only be awarded to the player going second in a duel. At the beginning of the game (Before the T1 player enters their standby), the T2 player may shuffle their entire hand into their deck in order to draw 5 cards. The downside to this is that it would cause them to lose out on their first draw-phase as a result (So while it gives potentially better card selection for hand-traps, it does cause you to lose out on advantage on the following turn). It also offers more incentive for going second. 2. Resource Limitation - While Yu-gi-oh doesn't have a resource system like other games, being able to summon from the extra deck is one resource that could be taxed in the early game to reduce the amount of degeneracy. For that, I would suggest limiting the amount of proper extra-deck summons for each players first 3 turn of the duel. The first turns would allow for 0, the second would allow for 1 and the third would allow for 2, after which both players would be allowed to summon to their hearts desire (Or if that ends up being too oppressive, 1,1,2, unlimited). The main point of this would allow for both players to setup resources (Especially traps) to counter combo strings while also avoiding hard to break boards simply because you ended up going second (And didn't draw the out). What it also does is offer more variety to decks, as decks that don't special summon from the extra gain aggro advantage than combo decks that need the extra deck to function (And control decks that counter combo decks will end up having a lot more time to build resources in order to stabilize).
Konami "we cant unban painfull choice is too much of a powerfull mill card and we cannot allow that" Also konami "ISHIZU CARDS GOOOO BBBBBRRRR MILL EVERYTHING"
Try Rush Duels! octomaidly on twt recently made a whole ppt explaining the format, from basics to super advanced stuff like timing and rulings. It even includes premade decks so you can start playing immediately.
me and my group of friends(10 of them) take things further. we made our own format using master rules which simply says "all cards only can have their effects activated once per turn and only once on that turn" which override or "errata-ed" all existing cards no matter even the actual text of the cards says "ignoring all the..." it plays more interesting although lot of pause during each duels to discuss how some circumstances that happens but it's expected. Players all around the world should just make their own formats and tournament using their own Master Rules and their own Erratas to actually balances the game using broken cards that get balanced. it's already time to go our own way since Konami is shown have no interests to do such a thing as Balance since their own so called "Banned Lists" is related to their Business models where they bans their previous OP Cards when their next to release OP Cards is hitting the shelves. all that it need is someone mad enough to make 1 Millions USD prize money tournaments using Customs Master Rules and Erratas to give the middle finger to Komoney.
Amen brother! Me and my friends have made a format ourselves! I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
I just came out of hiatus, saw ycs Pasadena and played one duel against tear, now I’m back on hiatus
Mate i play chronomaly (III decks) in 2022, and after seeing tears, bysstial, etc, i slot in 3 nibiru
@@Dz73zxxx nib is bad vs tear
@@saif19845 .....back to neglecting YGO i guess
Try cyber dragon
Come to Domain Format! We play games with 60 card highlander decks with a (balanced rules) deckmaster, in 4 player pods! It’s the most fun I’ve have playing in a long time! I make content about it if you’re curious.
Edison Format sounds like the way to go. That era was my favorite Yugioh era. Yugioh really came into its own while keeping the power level fun and approachable. I could still read the cards without squinting
Tengu Plant > Edison > Goat imho. BTW i agree on the cards text issue a lot.
New Yugioh Cards nowadays have too much text and the fact that most of the duel is decided on Turn 1 with combo decks makes the game unappealing to returning/new players because to play a game and understand what's going on you need to watch combo videos on youtube first, otherwise you won't understand a single thing of what's happening. During the Synchro and XYZ Era you could just learn the game by playing, now you have to study the theory if you want to play the game and frankly it's just ridicoulous. Is modern yugioh more complicated? Probably, but the first thing a game should be is : FUN . AND MODERN YUGIOH IS EVERYTHING BUT FUN.
Check out Tengu Plant format
Its a couple of formats after Edison & its hella fun
@@guaritalksaboutcards Needs more HAT.
Edison format you say? 🤔
I honestly don't know why people get on your ass about being negative. Yugioh has a ton problems and they need to be talked about.
And he’s right :P
Having alternative formats is nice but doesn't solve the overall issue with this card game that NEEDS to be addressed & NO longer avoided.
@@joshuadansby2874what's the overall issue
@@xxSpngebnexx powercreep and the death of going 2nd, also Konami being Konami
@@xxSpngebnexx The issue is that the answer to power creep isn't to suddenly dial that power creep up to 11.
The game literally changed overnight. The day before MAMA I was in a tournament and saw 5 different decks. MAMA release day. Of my 4 rounds of Swiss I lost to 4 ishizu tear. Im a rogue deck player so I expect to lose, however I also expect to have a turn if I win the die roll.
Something I though Konami should try that Cardfight Vanguard does is doing choice restrictions on their ban lists. Just as an example (not saying this would solves everything) they could choice restrict Havnis and Kelbek where neither can be played in the same deck together. This could also be a way to remove card from the list that are broken by specific interactions.
The playerbase can't be expected to read and even remember things that happened during their turn.
So I don't trust them to memorize complex bans.
I got downvoted on r/yugioh for bringing this up. Ishizu cards are not that powerful outside of Tearlaments.
do most players think havnis / t0 plays are the problem with tearlaments? i'm curious because that part of the deck really feels more like a gimmick
Holy shit this! This!!
So many cards are only broken because of one single card and not how strong they actually are... Man YuGiOh needs this
It isn't completely impossible but to think you have to add "can't put this and that in the same deck" for every new pack released in case the abomination stuff happens. Yugioh has too much card pool unlike Vanguard. That what my lit brother said when i told him exactly like you said.
Speaking of cubes, I just made a 3500+ card singleton cube that I've been drafting with my friends, and it's been a blast! Honestly, the most fun I've had playing the game, and it's helping me and my friend groups socialize more. There are so many insane game states and interactions that happen in these cube drafts since there is only one copy per card (with a handful of specific exceptions) And the best part is: It's constantly evolving with every set that is released! I get to be excited about pack trash nobody cares about and will probably give to me for free if I asked. Instead of looking at bad modern card design as a blight, I now see it as a potential fine addition to my collection. Silent Wolf Calupo? Bayerock Dragon?? THE GREAT DAMNED NOODLE INVERSION!?? Yes, please!
I love how the fix to the yugioh tcg problem, is just play a different format.
Instead of Konami actually making a balanced game.
Konomi will never balance the game.
They want people to have to go out and buy all of the new broken cards and then they'll release the next set of power crept cards and rinse and repeat. It's a scheme to milk as much money from the playerbase as possible which is why I stopped buying cards 2-3 years ago.
I might buy certain singles of cards that I like but that's it. I'm not going to buy product just to chase shortprinted cards or to stsy in the competetive scene. It's just not worth it.
@@LunaticKD1991 Yes 1000% correct
Joe Wright I agree 10000% am saying the same thing too
"Having alternative formats is nice but doesn't solve the overall issue with this card game that NEEDS to be addressed & NO longer avoided."
The thing is though, some people still like current Advanced Format too so "fixing" it is not necessary the thing to do. The good thing about alt formats is that no single format is going to appeal to every player.
Basically the problem with every card game.
Speed duel is SO nice! It's like old school but with an enhanced card pool, some rueling twists and very cool decks - it is the other way YGO could have chosen.
Wish more people played speed duels
I searched it here on TH-cam and it’s showing videos from years ago… that’s a bad sign l
I wish there was a larger car variety though a lot of the options in speed duel really just not all that interesting to me and kind of discouraging from making your own unique deck given that you have such a limited pool to draw from
@@existinginaspace8347 man, if we speak about YGO, you remember that currently we have a tier 0 format? There is no choice of creativity in the meta existing right now. Actually speed duels card pool isn't that small. You have most iconic cards from the first two anime series + some newer cards. You have acess to a lot of goat cards, such as breaker, d.d.warrior lady Don zaloog+++, but you also have archetypes like heros, cyberdeagon/DARK +++ just give it a trie, it is very different from the main game and If creativity is important to you, you definitley should play speed duels.
@@avagrim9891 You can still just do casual duels in the TCG. And there aren't as many archetypes or style of play in Speed as TCG.
If you have a tryhard local and don't like online dueling then you are SoL with TCG. But you also aren't gonna easily find people to play Speed Duels with. One of my locals has Goat format tournaments but don't even sell Speed Duel product.
Honestly wish you mentioned HAT format as that is also a format that deserves the same level of love as Edison and GOAT (Though I understand Edison's popularity better). It's an amazingly diverse format and is very well balanced. I honestly enjoy it the most out of every format I tried (Though Edison is pretty fun too)
problem with HAT is set 5 decks and soulcharge.deks. HAT is one of the older formats where dice roll matters the most.
Rush duels is an alternative way to play Yugioh that wasn’t mentioned. There is the videogame on switch that covers early sets and there are plenty of simulators that let you play with the rest of the cardpool. Plenty of discord servers and resources online aswell that cover how it’s played !
Trinity seems super interesting! I love that it gives normal monsters a reason to exist. Definitely gonna look into that
Speed duels is what brought me back to Yugioh (played since the beginning until Pendulum). When I heard the Roids were coming, I finally caved and got the Duel Academy Box and I’ve been playing a lot of duel links.
Hey there! I’m a big casual player too, and I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
Two formats that weren't included were Reaper Format (2006) and Hat Format (2014), which are the other two formats that are more known by players, and they both have their own unique formats that have special things tied with them.
I personally enjoy Hat Format for it being a more Control-oriented Format that does require resource management, knowledge of what other decks can do, has many unique decks, and you always have the ability to make a come back due to how difficult it can be for most decks to OTK the opponent in this format.
There are also a variety of decks that include 12 meta archetypes, 10+ non-meta archetypes, and variations of each of these decks that you can make based on the inclusion of Hands, Artifacts, and/or Fire Fists, which can boost the power level of your deck significantly enough to be able to win tournaments versus the top tier decks. With all of this variety, you really do see like 7+ decks making it in the top cut of tournaments compared to other old formats with way less of a variety of meta decks.
HAT is a good format but has problems you'll see once the format gets played at a more competitive level. Infernity is a bane in that format and dice roll is more important in HAT Format than in other old formats due to the absence of Heavy Storm and the presence of Soul Charge.deks.
@@guaritalksaboutcards Infernity is easily hindered in this format due to bricking and the opp opening any 1 handtrap to stop them. Plus, it does take a good pilot to run the deck for an entire tournament, and that's why it stuck around the lower top cut back in 2014.
The dice roll is a bit more important, but also not really due to the lack of OTKs that can be had in this format. You're looking at maybe 2-3 decks that can do it if they open all gas and the opp has absolutely nothing to stop them from doing so. Soul Charge also negates damage for a turn, so its not like they are killing you that turn, and negates aren't prevalent in this format at all either so....
As for the backrow situation, we have way more answers that the other popular old formats, because of Double Cyclone, Artifact Ignition, Fire Fist Bear + Tenki, MST at 3, Spiritualism, and many more cards act as generic backrow hate for the format. Which is why you shouldn't need Heavy Storm.
To top it all off, we have some of the least currently banned and annoyingly op cards of any of the old popular formats. We have Maxx C, Vanity's Emptiness, Lavalval Chain (to a degree as it isn't a staple for every deck), and Soul Charge as the only problematic cards of the format compared to the 5+ problematic cards that lie in Goat, Reaper, and Edison formats respectively.
@@fornaximus7334 dice roll is more important when heavy storm doesn't exist. In formats where heavy storm doesn't exist the player who wins the dice roll has a much greater chance to win the duel. There were some studies on pojo about this thing.
That's why No Heavy Storm + Soul Charge makes HAT one of the old formats where the dice roll matters the most.
@@guaritalksaboutcards You don't need Heavy Storm lol. You have enough backrow and backrow hate, that can also make you go plus in card advantage, that you can literally go second and mimic the opp's turn of setting their hand and passing. You are 100% fine with doing that since they won't be OTK'ing you from 8k LP in this format as well.
Let's say we did have Heavy Storm in the format, it would be at 1, and you'd have to draw the 1-of. Which is so unreliable, and that's why you don't trust old Pojo Studies, because of how unreliable it can be to draw a 1-of in a 40 card deck. So Heavy Storm would make the smallest difference here, that it wouldn't even matter.
As for Soul Charge, it is a card to look out for, but the best deck in the format not needing/using it shows that it isn't that big of a problem for the format. It's still there and it matters, but it matters a whole lot less when even the best deck of the format can't use it that well. Plus, if you are worried about this, then you can main deck Maxx C, Effect Veiler, Droll, or D.D. Crow to stop the opp from making a good board or looping with their cards. Let's say you don't have any of these either, and you had to go second versus a deck like Infernity, who has a good pilot that has had a ton of experience and etc, well you still have a chance at making a come back since everything they put up will be interruptions like pops and etc, with Infernity Barrier being the only big negate, and that's at 1. Then popping your set Artifact cards is also a plus for you as Sanctum can pop cards, Ignition can skip their battle phase, and the Artifact monsters can pop cards. So you are still able to win the game when going second even against the most cracked deck with the best pilot for it.
I would love to see a Deck Master tournament. Kind of reminds me of season 3 of the original series
I make content about 4 player games with (balanced rules) deckmasters, 60 card highlander decks. It's seriously the most fun I've had playing Yugioh and building decks! Check it out if that sounds interesting to you!
Until your opponent plays Last Warrior as their Deck Master kek
Wow! Didn't know there were that many formats. Pretty much I all know is GOAT, Edison and Speed Duels.
Could I interest you in the best casual multiplayer format ever?? I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
Not sure how practical it would be but i think it might be fun to have a league system. Seperate tier 0 decks from the rest and play in it's own league and then have lower tiered decks 1, 2 etc in their own. And based on how well a deck performs it can be promoted or demoted. Kind of hard with all the archetypes and engines but just some food for thought.
Actually they do that in the pokemon games
@@quassar4618 yes that's what i was basing it off of. not familar with pokemon but did know they have league system.
I was thinking of the same thing, also based on Pokemon's tiers.
I'm surprised that you didn't mention HAT format in this video.
Reaper format and Fire/Water format are some other retro formats that have a following.
fire/water not so much sadly. btw imho vegas>fire water
The solution i've found rn is "Play Skull Meister"
its literally just Ash Blossom but for the GY. Soul Drain is also pretty good this format, and its also playable at 3.
Formats Formats Formats. At the simplest they could make DM Format, GX Format, 5Ds Format, Zexal Format, ect
Great job taking a positive and constructive approach to not liking the current format.
A "format" ive made up and played a few tumes with friends thats been a lot of fun has been basicslly a full twist on yugioh inspired by the anime where you make up what cards do as you play and if your oppenent doesnt think thats what your card does they can call your bluff on it and you then read the exact effect of your card and if it isnt what you said you skip your next draw phase but if it is what you said they skip their next draw phase. The idea is to make up stuff that makes sense or play absurd cards with weird effects/wordings. This works better with people that dont have an encyclopedic knowledge of random cards and is also very casual but a lot of fun, its also pretty nice to draft as slightly changing the wording of a card while still being convincing can get some crazy results. Although again doesnt stand in at all for actual yugioh and is an entirely different experience.
My friends and I have been playing Forbidden Memories Format. Basically only cards present in the game Yugioh Forbidden Memories card pool are allowed, and each turn, the turn player can only play/activate 1 card from their hand. Cards on the field can be activated without limit if they were set on previous turns. Cards that activate from the hand without going to the field (like Thunder Dragon) Don’t count. Also Polymerization is allowed at 3 copies, given Forbidden Memories’ heavily relying on fusion summon. Currently it is my favorite format to play, especially because I got to resolve the effect of Weather Report, which was hilarious.
That’s so awesome! I loved forbidden memories growing up, I use all the soundtracks in my videos!! 😂
@@yugiohcommander the ost is indeed excellent!!
Thank you for talking about cube format! I've been interested in it recently, and was surprised at the lack of information I could find on it.
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Limit the amount of summons a turn. PERMANENET summon limit.
I agree, I mentioned that idea before in one of his videos & most disagreed smh
2 special summons per turn.
@@D3xterJettster maybe limit 6x special summons a turn. Can't do less than 5 because Nibiru would be obsolete
@@joshuadansby2874 it would still be useful to counter cards and effects (Soul Charge, red eyes retro, scapegoat, return from different dimension, etc) that summon massive amounts all at once (which special summon multiple cards, but are still considered a singular spec summon). Which is what decks will be shifting towards to get the most put of their limited special summons. RIP Maxx C though 🙏 if there does come a limit.
One of my teammates and I have been super into Common Charity. I’ve built Tenyi, Cyber Dragon, and Skull Servant. So far he’s made dragon link, a trap monster deck, and is working on building Beetroopers too.
It’s an amazing time not having to worry about cards that only have high rarity printings, like TTT, Accesscode Talker, Borrelsword Dragon, etc.
I've been working on a Rush Duel draft using some of their recent nostalgia products like the Battle City box and the Obelisk/Slifer decks. It's hard to nail some of the finer points of the format using non-Rush cards though, like deckout being actually relevant because self-mill is a common cost for card effects. Rush also has a much lower overall power level than Speed Duels since you get unlimited normal summons, which is also hard to nail down. Currently trying to see if I can get some friends together to try it out.
Also, think it would be cool is there was a high-effort format that split the card pool into "clans" a la Bushiroad TCGs, and individually decide which "clans" get which cards. Like Mist Valley and Harpies could get Icarus Attack, while excluding it from Blackwings. There could also be a generic card pool that's usable by all clans.
Duelist Alliance - New Challengers format will always be my favourite. I miss Burning Abyss so much, I wish they could compete now. And I miss the variety of decks i'd see at regionals then from the remains of mythic ruler, sylvans, geargia and bujin, to the more meta shaddoll, qliphort and satellarknight. I never ran into the same deck twice, good times.
Yeah, xyz era had a several formats dominated by a few archetypes, but overall it toed the line between old-school and modern ygo really well.
Back in primary school, if two kids wanted to play Yugioh but one of us didn't have a deck on hand, we'd just put the other deck in the middle and we'd both draw from it. I'd love to see this as a format.
Both players bring an even number of cards, cut it and give half to the opponent. Basically mirror matches with random decks
@@dudono1744 Not a bad idea, but there's also a lot more room for shenanigans if both players also play from the same deck. For example, you could deliberately search multiple copies of the same card just to deny them to your opponent.
@@Dominator150395 true, but how would deck out work ?
@@dudono1744 Same as the normal game: when a player has to draw, but there's no cards left in the deck, they lose.
I think it would be fun to try and play a mill deck in this format - you can easily deck your opponent out, but you gotta be careful not to deck yourself out.
As a magic the gathering player I can say that alt formats are amazing! Our most popular format is a fan made format Commander four player 100 card singleton with a custom ban list. People realized they want a few things. 1. Playing with friends (4 Player) 2. Using the entire card pool. 3. Not having to deal with power creep as much.
If the entire card pool is included how would power creep not just take over?
Duel links is my favorite. Games can last to at least turn 5-7. The Red-Eyes deck and Blue-Eyes deck are fun to play. Nothing is overpowered. The GOAT format is my second favorite.
Wow didn’t realize there was a singleton format!! That’s awesome. It’s like commander for magic.
riding(turbo) duel is quite cool. speed counters and stuff, makes the duel more interesting. especially in speed world 2, u can burn, draw, or destroy, it forms part of strategic play.
and speed counters are like resources/mana to use spell(magic) cards.
Ban Instantfusion, Limit Agido and Kelbek, Limit Tear Fieldspell, Limit Havnis, Limit Spright Elf, Limit Spright Starter, Limit Bysstial Magnahmut, Semi-Limit Spright Blue
A fun thing a few of my friends and I have been doing is a 10p card draft type thing. We go to one of our nearest card shops (geek retreat is one of the better ones) with £6 and attempt to build a fairly functional deck out of the 10p cards that they have in massive open top boxes on one of the shelves. We settled on £6 so you can dip into the 50p/£1 card binders as well and maybe pick up a mirror force or lightning vortex to power up your deck and give you an edge. Originally we had half an hour to look through the boxes but it just wasn't enough time so we settled on about an hour to build your deck. It's been really exciting and you can actually end up getting some good synergies; there is a nice back and forth to the duels as well. We also settled on a handicap of an extra pound to get some more cards if you're not fairing very well as a sort of handicap. Definitely worth trying this kind of thing out if your local card shops have boxes of the really cheap cards.
Duel Links is currently my favourite way to play YGO, and I'm very interested in Speed Duels because of it. I'm thinking about gettng those GX sets once I'm good with money and trying to get some friends into it.
Hey there! As someone who was brought back by Duel Links, I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
I found that 'Pegues Format' that you guy's played on your main Channel was Really Fun too, so much so I've decided to try it out myself and another friend of mines and we both liked and enjoyed it. So much so it is our Frequent Go To's whenever we are in the mood for Alt Format's
A year I tried to getting into yugioh and it just didn’t work out due to me not understanding some of the mechanics or wanting to put the time in and I tried playing with my gf and she wasn’t the biggest fan because she didn’t understand it to much either plus I only knew how to use blue eyes, although I was on and off with duel links but recently discovered speed duels (thanks to team aps) and picked up the gx box and the weevil v raptor decks and actually was able to play a fun game with my gf and even better she won so even though I know the basics of yugioh it would be hard to get my friends into it with regular format so I think showing new comers speed duels is a great way to get them into it as well as myself
I would already be happy, if ever a format catches on in which you take the usual advanced format but without negates, floodgates, removal during opponents turn and mass removal. Then both players would just build up their board and ran it into each other and use float effects and stuff. So you would still do crazy combos, but both players would actually do a lot of stuff.
My friends and I have been playing with a yugioh wheel (similar to tsx1) and it’s been a ton of fun. Trying archetypes we’ve never played and just playing more interactive games has been a nice refresher. Maybe we will delve back into meta stuff later but for now it’s been a great way to still enjoy the game.
I just built a Nurse burn deck, with extra cards to convert it into a small Darklord deck. I never played the game growing up, and I get some wins online with my deck. But it's not lost on me that what I like to play is definitely not going to win anything serious. It would be really nice to have other format options to try my luck out and push my into a new deck building direction by exposed to other cards and strategies.
Thanks for this video! Defintely sounds like Goat format would be more my speed considering it'd be more like the old school Yugioh I used to play.
I make content on a format I'm obsessed with! 60 card highlander decks, with a (balanced) deckmaster, in 4 player pods! I have a video on a game I played recently. I've been getting all my friends to build decks, this is seriously the most fun I've had playing, as I am an old school player too!
I think the best thing about yugioh’s history is they made a bunch of videogames. You get some nice snapshots in time. Only downside is if you want to play against people.
I really want a great videogame, I would love to direct a yugioh game based in 5D’s because of the speed duel rules. The 2011 videogame is so fun, there’s also 2v2, 1v1 speed duel, 2v2 speed duel, and the story mode had the 3v3 tournament and a 1v2. I would love to have a better graphical game with online where you go around as a custom character and help out the 5D’s cast. Also since the game had such slow AI since it was on the DS having a modern fast version would be great. Please Konami put effort in the videogames, hire me, I’ll make the best Edison format game ever created. Hell if I had infinite money I’d put a goat section in as well. Just my 2 cents.
I would love to see Konami experiment with the Duel Links style of banlist, and I feel like Master Duel events are the perfect testing grounds for it.
To be fair, there would be tons of headache at the start, but you could eventually end up with a banlist which prevents the best decks in a format from using power cards without taking major hits to consistency, resilience, or power.
I've wanted something like that for a while. Just putting all the powerful draw/search options into a "Limit 3" pool would force decks to use their archetypal searchers/draws or get a good generic one to make up for lacking their own, while simultaneously shutting off deep draw strategies that would string together all of them for FTK shenanigans like a few things are currently able to do. And then there's other fun stuff you can do with it like put a small amount of the most broken cards in the game that are currently banworthy into a "Hard 1" category shared with certain currently oppressive cards to help push certain other decks to that level of power without forcing them to run the same card themselves.
I'm looking forward to the future videos featuring these custom formats. Us Yugioh players get more burnt out than any other TCG because we don't have as many options. If Konami really wanted to revitalize the game they would add new sanctioned formats so that players would be able to take a break from an unpleasant format with something else.
Hey there! If you’re a fan of alt formats, I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
I don’t understand how Heart of The Underdog isn’t being pushed by every OTS and by Konami themselves.
So many people have decks lying around that they love but can’t play because they get ripped apart by the meta. This would not only get more people into OTS stores (which makes them money) but it would also entice people to make more decks (which also makes them more money.)
It also goes in line with Konami wanting people to buy product. There’s a new archetype that is being released in a new set that isn’t top tier crazy but looks fun and is decent? Cool now I can actually build it AND play it.
Also any halfway decent deck that they shit out legacy support for instantly seems more viable to play IRL.
If my OTS did this, I’d make 3 new decks TOMORROW. It’s a no brainer I don’t get why they don’t push this.
Yeah I agree having leagues would be great. I love playing ogdoadic but I took it to locals once and I went 0-5 the next week I took phantom knights and I won the event. Keep in mind this was right when ancient guardians came out so pk was very good then. There’s no incentive to play new non meta decks anymore it’s just a bad time all around.
So pushing heart of the underdog actually doesn't make Konami more money, since they don't make anything off the secondary market. They would have to push out more sets that specifically caters to those decks (which is a ton of archetypes/strategies). They'd also have to define what would be classified as a low enough tier to qualify, a completely separate ban list (which we all know how much they care about that), as well as still trying to cater to their primary audience, which is the competitive scene. Like it or not, from the business aspect of it, the casual base isn't what truly makes Konami the fortunes. The big events and OTS stores do. That's why Konami doesn't heavy push the past formats. They either wouldn't sell enough past product support, costing money, or not enough new stuff, costing money/the longevity of the game.
You can suggest the OTS to organize tournaments with the HotU format.
I LOVE the speed duel cards that have come out. I just finished building a deck called "Ojamas From Down Under." Think of a crossover of Ojamas and The Master of Oz (Aussie cards!). I played it at locals tonight (definitely not there to win) but to have fun seeing reactions to me playing such a weird deck! 🤣 I got to bring out 2 Ojama Kings in 1 duel and locked out all of my opponents monster zones! It was a crazy fun night, even with a super weak deck thats just there for the lols 😂
My man! You sound like you’d fit in perfectly in the Domain Format discord! 😉
As always another awesome video! Didn't realize there were so many different ways to play. Also thanks for explaining GOAT been wondering about that for a bit.
Its quite fun as there are quite a bit of different decks to play. I was surprised at how much i didnt know about Back in the day.
Also speed duals made goat much more accessible through reprints.
I'm excited to see what major differences the Team Duel meta will have on master duel, it seems really interesting as a game type, I'm just hoping it's not a temporary thing like the festivals.
The heck you mean? Master Duel's Team Duels are just 3 or 5 separate normal duels. There is literally no rule change whatsoever.
Edison format is my jam. The early synchro formats in general are at that perfect intersection between old and new yugioh, where it is still card advantage based and you *can* play good stuff builds that are good, but you get to summon cool extra deck monsters and play archetypes if you’d prefer.
A command like format (singleton) would actually seem pretty fun. Pauper yugioh (only cards that can be used are commons) might also be fun haven't played ygo since I was a kid but I'm a huge commander player
I wish there was a popular format like trinity, that utilizes OG normal monsters to be useful.
With some mechanic so it's not a pure statcheck of the same 3 monsters but for example them being a blocker or summoning condition and their stats harm you when it's removed form play or an element based system where water normal monsters always remove fire monster cards
This is funny this video appeared as i was doing research on this exact thing. My friends and I were doing a progression league together but eventually fizzled out and they all hate the current format. I couldn't find like a comprehensive just list of formats and what they are anywhere.
Hey there! I too yearn for an awesome way to play Yugioh, and I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
Honestly for me, konami needs to harsh-restrict archetypes effects only, not just limited to one-way summoning. I play chronomaly and eventho it has powerful OTK and negate capability, the archetype-only restriction kept me balanced and thought how to utilize non-archetype cards.
Therefore, imo its interesting if YGO is shifting primarily to archetype-restricted battles. Types/attributes battle also interesting too.
Goat Format and Edison are where it's at imo
I just started playing Yu Gi Oh again, last time I played it was still GX generation, can you make a video for beginners, because not only I want to play Master Duel but I want to buy cards and start to play on locals and stuff and I don’t anything about card prices
I'm the same as u. don't get into the game again if you're not ready to spend a band on cards that are good
so my advice for you would be to first figure out whether you want to play competitive or semi casual. There are actually a surprising amount of decks you can get for cheap (obviously they won't be nearly as good as the super power meta houses like tearlament ishizu, but there are tons of decks that still can win). Check TCGplayer for card prices and look up deck profiles/deck showcase videos on youtube to see if there's a deck that personally resonates with you. 9 times out of 10 unless you've picked a super meta deck or a deck that randomly has low printing rate (or the outlier of fan-favorite decks like the waifu decks) you'll be able to pick up decks for quite cheap.
@@digitalduken9973 I dont know that yet, I want to try to imerse myself in the game again and see how I fit, but I wouldn’t go competitive cause I dont have time to it, semi competitive at max
Don't invest in cardboard just play digital
Domain format is super budget friendly format 😉 I’ve been completely obsessed with it since I started playing it!
If anyone is curious about legacy formats, the TH-cam Channel Janjo Zone has been making history videos about them.
Yugi-Kaiba format is a super fun, ultra oldschool format. Heavily skill based c:
I have always played old school yu-gi-oh. I stop following meta as soon as Synchro came out. I actually did incorporate some XYZ into my playstyle, but I pretty much only added XYZ cards to my old school decks. For instance, I have a Yugi and Kaiba deck. So I threw in some level four XYZ monsters, and level seven and eight XYZ Monsters, for Yugi and kaiba. I have a old school Pegasus deck, an old school Joey deck, but I powered up the Pegasus Deck with some new toon monsters (no XYZ), and I powered up the Joey Deck with some new XYZ Monsters. None of my extra decks are actually full though maybe 7 or 8 cards each. It's actually been a while since I've played them so I can't remember perfectly. I think the newest deck I have is the newest rise of the Dragon Lords, but I haven't touched that deck in ages so I don't remember anything about it. Then I also have a revamped dinosaur structure deck with a couple of dinosaur XYZ monsters and new dinosaurs support, and I have a revamped Warrior's Triumph Deck with a few Warrior XYZ Monsters and new warrior effect monsters and support backrows. And then lastly I have an old school Dark Magician spellcaster deck, with some Dark Magician support cards and a couple of spellcaster XYZ monsters. But the thing with adding my XYZ monsters, is that I don't have any XYZ support whatsoever. I just threw them into the decks just for the fun of it, but XYZ is not actually required to play those decks, I just threw them in just to add more Combos and strategy to the pre-existing Decks that I built years ago. I specifically chose XYZ because they are easy to summon. I stayed away from anything Synchro because of requiring tuners, I never tried links before, never tried pendulum, and any other New meta after Synchro I never tried. I always liked playing the old school way, the only thing that changed was throwing in a couple of XYZ just to spice up the old school style that I built my decks around. Every one of those decks have and cards as well, such as pot of greed (what does that do?). I have a group of friends and we play with those old decks whenever we duel, we all primarily mained certain decks, but we trade decks sometimes for fun. Even sometimes for fun we'll take out all XYZ extra cards just for the fun of it. We've enjoyed playing this way for years and it's been great. Theres never a clear cut winner for the duels, it's generally someone different, and the duels can last for an hour or more at times. Its honestly great I love it
Yes! Some love for Trinity format
some of the format mentioned should've been able to be played on Master Duel's duel room, so if you had difficulty finding cards or people, maybe this is sweet alternative
A few of these actually seem pretty interesting definitely worth giving a shot
It's always cool to see different ways of playing
Unrelated: I'm a Magic Player who is trying to get into Yu-Gi-Oh (Master Duel). What Deck/Archetypes would you recommend? Someone advised me trying out Giant Ballpark (Which honestly reads like a fun card). I'm excited at the prospect that you could make Normal Monsters kinda sorta viable, or at least playing them without being complete garbage. All the different monster types with their massive amounts of effects dizzy me to be honest. I can't even read them properly because half their texts are referrals to other cards which I know nothing of.
And could you make a video for people who are trying to get into Yugioh? Maybe some strategy tips, when to use your handtraps, when to save them and how to bait out your opponents' handtraps, or a general overview of the meta, those sorts of things? This game looks really fun, but hell is it hard to get into. And all the Yu Gi Oh content seems to be catered towards people who already know a lot about it.
First go through solo mode to just see decks and what playstyle you like,then look at meta decks and pick your favourite one
I personally recommend Umi Control for Master Duel, it is a really fun deck that can break boards and tell your opponent "no".
But when it bricks, it bricks hard. You can easily reach Plat with it.
what about skill tier formats for all players?
I'd be cool to see a custom 4 player format. Idk how you'd play it, I'd imagine that you'd use older cards similar to how goat format is played
Just unleash The Ban Gatling Gun!
Format Idea: No spells/traps/effect monsters, you can only play non-effect monsters
You dont need card effects to do things like special summon or ritual summon, if you get the cards in your hand and it needs another cards effect to be on the field; Ignore it, you can play it anyway
If you have a cards required material on the field you can special summon it from your extra deck by simply removing those cards from your field
We as duelists may be struggling with this new T0 era but i can assure you mtg players are much much worse
Im both so its crazy that konami is the good company and more affordable( ya really) game to play and has been for months prior and if wotc keeps this up for months to come
why mtg players are worse?
I’m going to come up with my own format following the rules my friends and I played by as elementary school kids (none of us held onto the rules sheets so we had no clue at all how to play and made it up as we went
I have yet to face a tear/ ishizu deck but I will just give the game and not play against those type of people.
Worst comes to worst, just go Play Magic the Gathering commander until the next ban list which will probably be in January. Well that or wait until the next few sets come out and fixes things. (Take this as half joke and half being serious.)
OR you could play 60 card highlander with a (balanced rules) deckmaster, in 4 player pods in the discord I'm in. It's seriously the most fun I've had playing yugioh! And its so fun building decks. I make content on it if you want to check it out!
I have a cube list that’s based around tengu plants era if you want Paul
Think a free-for-all multiplayer format would be great for YGO!
Some big brains would have to ponder about how effects work affecting one player or multiple.
For example: raigeki destroys 1 opponent’s monsters , dark hole destroys every players’ monsters.
I make content about just that! In my videos you can find links to the Discord I'm apart of (domain format), It's been growing like crazy. We play 4 player games, with (balanced) deckmaster rules, 60 card highlander decks. My pinned video explains the rules. I would love to see you there!
@@yugiohcommander aaaaaawesome!!
Thanks!!
I've actually been working on an IRL Cross Duel format. Here, if you guys wanna try it out, you can use it:
Zone Rules
There are three Monster zones, and three Spell/Trap zones
-Left zone is to battle the player on your left
-Center zone is to battle the player across from you
-Right zone is to battle the player on your right
-Spells/Traps can be played against any player - if it targets monsters, you can only target ones you would battle
-There is no Extra Monster zone
Summoning Rules
-You can Normal Summon up to 3 monsters, and you can Tribute Summon once per turn
-Special Summons are unlimited
Win Conditions
-When a player reaches 0 LP or if a player runs out of cards, the Duel is over
-Whoever has the most points by the end of the Duel is the winner
Setup
-Each player starts with 8000 LP
-Deck must consist of 40-60 cards, and the Extra Deck can contain up to 15 cards
-Every player states a number between 1 and 6, and a die is rolled. The number it lands on decides the player that can choose to go first or last, and turns go in a clockwise manner. If a number is rolled that is not guessed, roll again.
-Every turn, at the start of your turn, you must draw until you have 6 cards in your hand. If you cannot, the Duel is over.
-The fourth turn player can attack.
The one time I played a Battle Royale I used Venom Swamp and I wish it did better. Venom's need a retrain.
I think that the idea behind Trinity is great, but reducing the deck size to help increase consistency is (to me) counter-intuitive. If the problem is that the game is too fast/optimized, going against consistency is the best way to "solve it". As you said, Commander is a MtG format with singleton (only one copy of each card) rules but instead it has an increased minimum deck size (it also is a multiplayer format, so you kinda want games to go longer). If what you're looking is a casual way to play YGO, I would suggest giving normal deck size and only one copy of each card a try, and embrace the variance
draft products are the future!!
I love cube, it would be awesome to see more videos on yuhioh cube
Yea the speed duel products are always here where i live
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Edison Format is the best Alt Yu-Gi-Oh! format!
it's hard for me to identify something as a problem because whenever I ask or think of something it just starts a fight.
Paul always reasonable!
I really hate the term combo in Yugioh. Getting free cards from other free cards is not a combo. It's a no-cost chain that Konami designed. Players aren't thinking up decks that combo 2 or 3 different effects to get an advantage. Everything is written on the card by konami telling you what to get/do. The next card in the chain tells you what to get/do. 5 chains later you get free unbreakable monsters that stop anything and can't be destroyed. No combinations are needed, just follow the text on the card.
The issue here is 1 card combos.
I'll gladly play anything before links and pendulums were a thing, haha. I reject any summoning mechanic newer than xyz. Thats why synchrons are my favorite deck rn. The extra deck is nothing but synchros :)
battle packs are the future!!
Hi Paul, awesome video! I like the idea of playing different formats from snapshots in time.
Do you have any experience with the early to mid 2014 format? This was right before pendulums and when I last played paper Yugioh at my local game store.
I really enjoyed that format! If I recall correctly, it was very diverse: Artifacts, Mermails, Madolches, Samurais, Fire Fists, Lightsworns, Bujins, Geargias, Spellbooks, Dark World, Evilswarms, and my favorites, Ghostricks.
I would love to hear your thoughts about this format! Keep up the awesome content!
I just play random jank against AI on YGOPro or randomly practice combos if I'm bored with a format. No need to worry about not being able to play the game when you can play with yourself. ಡ ͜ ʖ ಡ
(Or what I think is underrated... _playing other games_ xD. Trust me. I love Yu-Gi-Oh!... Mostly but just because I do, doesn't mean I can't take a temporary leave and play other games)
I chose to make my own card game where every card is common because handcrafted foils are a pain in the ass to make and more expensive too lol.
I feel since VRAINS launched Duel Links is pretty good while maintaining modern cards (though it is rough to get cards the format itself is cool)
If I was to fix how current Yu-gi-oh is played, I'd offer 2 suggestions:
1. A mulligan - This would only be awarded to the player going second in a duel. At the beginning of the game (Before the T1 player enters their standby), the T2 player may shuffle their entire hand into their deck in order to draw 5 cards. The downside to this is that it would cause them to lose out on their first draw-phase as a result (So while it gives potentially better card selection for hand-traps, it does cause you to lose out on advantage on the following turn). It also offers more incentive for going second.
2. Resource Limitation - While Yu-gi-oh doesn't have a resource system like other games, being able to summon from the extra deck is one resource that could be taxed in the early game to reduce the amount of degeneracy. For that, I would suggest limiting the amount of proper extra-deck summons for each players first 3 turn of the duel. The first turns would allow for 0, the second would allow for 1 and the third would allow for 2, after which both players would be allowed to summon to their hearts desire (Or if that ends up being too oppressive, 1,1,2, unlimited).
The main point of this would allow for both players to setup resources (Especially traps) to counter combo strings while also avoiding hard to break boards simply because you ended up going second (And didn't draw the out). What it also does is offer more variety to decks, as decks that don't special summon from the extra gain aggro advantage than combo decks that need the extra deck to function (And control decks that counter combo decks will end up having a lot more time to build resources in order to stabilize).
Konami "we cant unban painfull choice is too much of a powerfull mill card and we cannot allow that"
Also konami "ISHIZU CARDS GOOOO BBBBBRRRR MILL EVERYTHING"
Waiting for that reboot
I'm topping locals and regionals with crystal beasts
Okay okay okay....imma love to try Trinity
I love this Paul, I've been searching man idk why it was so hard for me to find but thank you. Gave me a lil more hope for this game❤️
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@@animeknight99 yeah I was just about to report this two seconds into the Convo🤣
Lol I always thought GOAT format was Greatest Of All Time format 😂
I like these Paul talks
Try Rush Duels! octomaidly on twt recently made a whole ppt explaining the format, from basics to super advanced stuff like timing and rulings. It even includes premade decks so you can start playing immediately.
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me and my group of friends(10 of them) take things further.
we made our own format using master rules which simply says "all cards only can have their effects activated once per turn and only once on that turn" which override or "errata-ed" all existing cards no matter even the actual text of the cards says "ignoring all the..."
it plays more interesting although lot of pause during each duels to discuss how some circumstances that happens but it's expected.
Players all around the world should just make their own formats and tournament using their own Master Rules and their own Erratas to actually balances the game using broken cards that get balanced.
it's already time to go our own way since Konami is shown have no interests to do such a thing as Balance since their own so called "Banned Lists" is related to their Business models where they bans their previous OP Cards when their next to release OP Cards is hitting the shelves.
all that it need is someone mad enough to make 1 Millions USD prize money tournaments using Customs Master Rules and Erratas to give the middle finger to Komoney.
Amen brother! Me and my friends have made a format ourselves! I’ve been having a blast playing Domain Format! 60 card singleton deck with a (balanced rules) deckmaster in pods of 4! It’s seriously the most fun I’ve had playing, I have content/gameplay on my channel if that sounds cool!
What about Rush Duel? You should have mention that as well. It even get a new game coming out on the switch in early december.
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Play goat format...
yes
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