There is another criterion that you didn't specify, but it came up twice in your analysis. That is: if you sac, can your opponent's Queen aid in defending her King, especially by directly opposing or interposing with your Queen? The threatened exchange of Queens will both neutralize most attacks and exposes the material disadvantage caused by the sac.
@@infinite7708 Unless you're Ian Nepomniachtchi, there is no way you can get away with this with someone who can see the best move. As the comment above me said, it creates bad habits if you want to improve yourself.
It's a potential trap. If the opponent sees it and counteracts you will be in trouble. However he didn't see it and fall in thus he is the one in trouble.
@@RHQ_W well yes and no, it depends on the time format and the strength of your opponent. Yes, you should take some time to figure out the best move by calculating the lines, yes you should review afterwards to see the potential refutation to your idea, but if you or your opponent don't have much time, or you have a material disadvantage already, I say you should try the move that's practically giving you winning chances.
It depends on rank and time format. Playing cheesy moves in classical is a bad idea, but in bullet even 3. Bh6 might be a good trap against indian defence premove
Define mistake. At different depths different moves become mistakes. Technically anything less than 3650 elo stockfish given 20 seconds to think will be a mistake. You can definitely catch people out on 2-3 turn mistakes.
On this topic I highly recommand to read Vukovic's book "The Art of Attack in Chess". I remember in particular that he gives a list of 4 criterias for greek gifts which he considers that usually the sacrifice is correct if you have at least 3 of these criterias fulfilled. I think one fo them was "is the center blocked?" (not really the case here, although it does become blocked after acceptation of the second sacrifice from the knight) and another one was "is there no black piece able to come control h7 in one move?" (also not the case here as potentially the Bc8 can come to f5). I forgot the two other criteria, I think one of them was having a Rh1/ph4 for potential h file opening (read that book almost 30 years ago), but the whole book was a little jewel for attacking players and with very good practical advices, definitely worth reading and studying.
0:33 to be honest nelson, I was playing an international chess tournament and I sacrifice my bishop but stockfish says it was a blunder, good thing my opponent didn't take advantage of my blunder because he was so stressed about that sacrifice and he thinks for a while but eventually in the end I win in end game
Feels you concentrate quite a lot on "why am I right" and avoid all the "why am I wrong?" Sure if your oponents makes all the bad moves that allow you to capitalize on your "blunder", you win. But realistically, you are just hoping for them to blunder a few times in a row.
In the middle of that sequence, the move I would have made was Ne6, forking the queen and the rook. And losing my knight to the bishop that was invisible to me for some reason.
I actually played a similar game yesterday. I sacrificed a bishop, which turned out to be a blunder, sacrificed a rook on the very next move and yet managed to checkmate my opponent in five moves. The problem was that I missed a checkmate in three because I got nervous. Fortunately, my opponent missed the only move that saves the game. That's an interesting concept, really. I much prefer a slow, methodical type of playing, attacking my opponent's weaknesses and creating a mating net. That said, if there's an opportunity to sacrifice my entire army for a quick checkmate, I might consider doing it.
Im 2000 and I agree. Sure it has attacking opportunities, but I would much rather play h5 h6 and hopefully get a nice attack from there without a sacrafice
@williamsweeney5249 Definitely. As Bobby Fischer said: great opportunities come from a superior position. Not everyone has the understanding to play gambits as Mikhail Tal.
@@williamsweeney5249hi I am 1200 elo is it really bad to sacrifice a bishop or knight for a pawn to destabilize the enemy kings defenses, so far it has worked for me?
Well even if your opponent were to play perfectly there is no way most players could calculate the move sequence in advance to know what the perfect moves would be. BUT if you could find at least one move by your opponent that casts doubt then I agree with you - it’s a no go on the sac. Generally if you aren’t making some sacrifices based on patterns and intuition then you are too passive of a player. You simply can’t calculate everything.
Meh I disagree. Chess is meant to be played for fun. If there's even a remote chance that a double or triple piece sac can lead to mate, you should go for it. Points come and go. The lulz of beating someone like this last forever.
Fantastic stuff NL! I just checkmated opponents-twice- yesterday and I was going on the instinct that their was something there. You made me realize I need to go through the sources-including Logical Chess- to help me see these opportunities with more clarity. Thanks. You have an incredible gift for teaching this game. Bless you.
Alternative title could be that you shouldn't just trust your opponent's sacrifices. Like you said, they can consolidate with Bf5 and the attack completely fizzles. After Qd1, Bf5 is not even an only move. Qe8, g6, even Bxg5 are all fine. I honestly think this game is just not a good example since the most obvious and forcing line is terrible for white with no compensation. There's the Colle vs John O'Hanlon game where the computer doesn't love Colle's Greek gift, but the normal move of Kg6 in response was a blunder. Even Kg8 would've required a series of precise moves to keep his advantage.
2:33 en passant is a playable move and it was just like how said nelson if black takes the pawn then theres a discover check and white will win. Even though I'm just 1500 I can analyze it because of what I just learned to stockfishes game
Excellent video. It’s great to hear you break down your process, what you noticed and why you chose a certain move (sometimes stockfish agrees, sometimes it doesn’t, but human-vs-human this is what you think is the best attack).
Actually sometimes, you can prepare a move (perhaps to block a king's escape)and if your opponent doesn't know what is happening and plays something else, you can play your next move and your opponent is stuck
Basically, that is a bluff move, similar to my rook sack. I sacked one rook which happened to be a bluff, it looked like I would be achieving a great attack but I didnt. My second rook sack and knight sack were brilliant moves that allowed me to checkmate my opponent with a casual queen manuevre.
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Funny thing, I just did this in a game last week, knowing I would be behind but that the opponent will crumble under pressure. I got to a position with some 5 points of pieces behind but won in the end. Quite fun!
I would guess g4, to undermine opponent's f pawn, and re-open the way for the Queen. Surprised he didn't mention it EDIT: No, that seems wrong. Opponent will just not take and leave the tension there. And if we take, opponent takes with Bishop, with the Rook protecting him... :-/
@@Prashant-7 (6:00) First of all, you wrote KE5. It would be Ke5, secondly, The K is for king and the king is on e1, so unless he can magically teleport there I don't see how we're gonna get there. Mind you we have our own fucking pawn on e5. Therefore I'm assuming you meant Nxd5. and you're threatening a discovered check which results in a double check. So, you just fucked up the notation, sure whatever, idc about all of that. So let's say the knight on b6 takes back our knight and then we go Qh3 like you said. YOU HANG YOUR QUEEN TO Bc8 AFTER SACKING THE ROOK. NOW YOU"VE LOST YOUR ROOK YOUR KNIGHT AND YOUR QUEEN AND YOU CAN RESIGN. I'm not mad at you hahah, you're just not seeing the sniper on C8, which is humorous, but on the other hand I can't stand you not thoroughly reading my previous comment, which is pretty fucking clear. So at 6:00: Nxd5, Nxd5 (or Qxd5), Rh8+, Kxh8, Qh3+, Bxh3. that's right. Bishop takes queen on h3. Dead, deceased, gone.
@@Prashant-7 First of all It's Ke5 not KE5, secondly the K stands for king and the king is on e1, so unless it can magically teleport to e5 we are not getting there, mind you our own pawn is standing on that same square. For those two reasons I'm assuming you meant Nxd5, which threatens a discovered check resulting in a double check, which leads to material loss or checkmate. Therefore they have to take the knight. Either with the queen or with the knight. Let's say they take with the Knight.Then according to your line you sacrifice the rook on h8, king takes, and then you go queen h3+. That just simply hangs your queen to bishop c8. The notation: Nxd5, Nxd5 or (Qxd5), Rh8+, Kxh8, Qh3+, Bxh3...... Now you've lost your rook, your queen and your knight. Time to resign.
Did exactly that the other day. I was losing real hard so i just sacrificed a piece to check the king. They took the bait and then all of a sudden i was winning.
I think it os important to mention the number of peices in play for g5. Black can attack with pawn, Bishop and queen, you have pawn, knight and bishop, and your turn right?
When u sacrifice , it depends on who ur playing. There are so many smurf accounts that practice that it makes it difficult to get out of 500 to 600. Play 900 and it’s easier than 400 to 500.
Queen c2 would have been far faster for that mating pattern. Even if they moved that pawn on the G file forward, you could still take and get checkmate. Rook could block at f5, but then they have to keep the Rook there and something defending it like Bishop C8 is already doing.
You gotta tell me at what time please. At the beginning it is the best move, but not because of mate threats so I don't think you mean that. At the very end there is a knight on d4, guarding c2, so it obviously wouldn't work. I am guessing you mean instead of sacrificing the knight? Which also wouldn't work, they could move their f-pawn to block.
Hello, first of all thank you for your great content, it helps me alot with getting better in chess. I have one question, why not after taking with the bishop: horse to d5, his horse probably takes and then taking with the queen would be a much easier and faster checkmate (If I don‘t miss anything, what could be the case, I am just 1.300) habe a great day and greetings from Austria
At first i thought Be4 to put pressure on D5 but after Be3 there is nothing. I dislike the sac of the bishop, the knight sac looks fine, opening the H file often works for me
@chess_vibes: You should make a video on _defensive_ techniques: the opponent is threatening to carry out a strong attack, we have to spot the threat and guess what's the appropriate defensive move. (Or do you already have such a video?...)
What about knight to g5 as first move as sacrifice. Black pawn takes it white takes with pawn which is taken by black bishop and then white bishop gives a check with support from its rook
Hi Nelson, I would love a video on improving at faster time controls. I’m over 1400 rapid but I cannot seem to stay above 900 in blitz and I don’t even much bother with bullet because it basically feels like I’m makin random move
Get better at slower controls. That way you see patterns quicker (not just tactics, development and endgames as well) Learning two openings for black and white at least six moves deep also helped me. Makes the middle game easier because you are not in a strange position quite as often. Also helps with time management.
Ive won countless games on the variations of greek sacrifice and when i looked at this position i was like huh? You can take? then what knight? Pawn captures? Pawn recaptures? Nah there has to be some juncture where this isn't right by just refusing to take material like a beginner. I can also see a lateral move to the H file by queen. The pawn getting to g6. So im curious if this stuff will work. Im taking the bishop then playing defense
Pawn to g6 is the best move. If Rook f8 to g6, then check with rook h1 to h8. King takes then Qd4 to Qh5 check. King to g8, Qh7 check. King f8, Qh8 checkmate. Isn't it so?
yes because black could push their pawn to f5 and then the sac line is interrupted. White can't take that pawn because they lose the trade, then any other move white can make to try to set something up, black plays something like pawn to g6 and that entire attack idea is lost.
I got click baited, there is no sound continuation after the bishop sac. The biggest blunder was imo not taking the knight. I calculated after fxg5, hxg5 kg6 (not giving an opportunity to play g6 to white where white would be better), i dont see how white attacks. If qc2+ then simply kf7 and next black will develop his white bishop or tuck his king in e8 and play be6. White just don't have enough firepower for a mate.
if you go to high depth and stockfish still says it's a blunder, don't try to pass it as a "it makes sense" in some situations. Yeah sure, if your oponents blunders out you can recover, but you ain't beating stockfish.
What if he pushed his H pawn? I see this as a potential threat to opening the file for rook or attacking with a queen and bishop. But I am not really a chess player. Mr. Vibes didn't even mentioned that possibility, so this move might be trash somehow?
Depends a little on when you want to play that move. Starting position it would actually be a fine move, not great though. It's too slow, so black can be really annoying in the center with fxe5, creating their own attack by opening lines with white's king in the center.
Sorry I just can’t get on board with this one. The lesson seems to be, if your opponent blunders 3 times, you can still checkmate after you mess up. Isn’t this just the definition of hope chess?
Not usually a hater but this position is a pretty bad example, the queen is all the way on the queenside. If it was on d1 then consider the sac by all means, but we can't justify a sac when we have to spend time getting the queen in.
This is a good example position and probably a good idea to sac, but i think you did a poor job explaining why. In order for this sac to be good you have to calculate at least "takes+ takes Ng5+ takes takes+ Kg8 g6". The advise to sac just because you have seen similar pattern before is terrible hopechess.
I do love ridiculously aggressive sacrifices, so I guess I'm the exact demographic for this move.
There is another criterion that you didn't specify, but it came up twice in your analysis. That is: if you sac, can your opponent's Queen aid in defending her King, especially by directly opposing or interposing with your Queen? The threatened exchange of Queens will both neutralize most attacks and exposes the material disadvantage caused by the sac.
bro's trying to become tal
So true
I'm trying to become tal but I only got the smoking part 😢
@@vermeirenniels3464bro my journey hasn't even began then😭
@@vermeirenniels3464 🥲
@@vermeirenniels3464 💀
I totally agree that black will probably do something in the next three moves 😂
I would have taken that pawn with my queen and blundered it thinking I won a mating net
Broski made a whole video trying to justify his blunder 💀
its not a blunder if it wins you the game he lowkey said it
@@infinite7708 it creates bad habits
@@infinite7708 Unless you're Ian Nepomniachtchi, there is no way you can get away with this with someone who can see the best move. As the comment above me said, it creates bad habits if you want to improve yourself.
It's a potential trap. If the opponent sees it and counteracts you will be in trouble.
However he didn't see it and fall in thus he is the one in trouble.
@@RHQ_W well yes and no, it depends on the time format and the strength of your opponent. Yes, you should take some time to figure out the best move by calculating the lines, yes you should review afterwards to see the potential refutation to your idea, but
if you or your opponent don't have much time, or you have a material disadvantage already, I say you should try the move that's practically giving you winning chances.
I don't like using strategies that rely on my opponent to make mistakes.
It depends on rank and time format.
Playing cheesy moves in classical is a bad idea, but in bullet even 3. Bh6 might be a good trap against indian defence premove
Thats literally every strategy no strategy is forced
Define mistake. At different depths different moves become mistakes. Technically anything less than 3650 elo stockfish given 20 seconds to think will be a mistake. You can definitely catch people out on 2-3 turn mistakes.
On this topic I highly recommand to read Vukovic's book "The Art of Attack in Chess". I remember in particular that he gives a list of 4 criterias for greek gifts which he considers that usually the sacrifice is correct if you have at least 3 of these criterias fulfilled. I think one fo them was "is the center blocked?" (not really the case here, although it does become blocked after acceptation of the second sacrifice from the knight) and another one was "is there no black piece able to come control h7 in one move?" (also not the case here as potentially the Bc8 can come to f5). I forgot the two other criteria, I think one of them was having a Rh1/ph4 for potential h file opening (read that book almost 30 years ago), but the whole book was a little jewel for attacking players and with very good practical advices, definitely worth reading and studying.
2:32 him not talking en passant hurts me
because of g6 pawn
I agree. Playing en passant is not forced, but mentioning en passant is forced! 😂
0:33 to be honest nelson, I was playing an international chess tournament and I sacrifice my bishop but stockfish says it was a blunder, good thing my opponent didn't take advantage of my blunder because he was so stressed about that sacrifice and he thinks for a while but eventually in the end I win in end game
That's the difference between a Grandmaster and others...they don't think this "might" work, they see what WILL work.
Sure, but I’m not playing against Grandmasters so 🤷♂️
They was a great lesson. Thanks a lot Nelson!
I feel like if you sack the bishop and the knight in this position, no one under 1500 will lose as black
you mean no one over?
Feels you concentrate quite a lot on "why am I right" and avoid all the "why am I wrong?" Sure if your oponents makes all the bad moves that allow you to capitalize on your "blunder", you win. But realistically, you are just hoping for them to blunder a few times in a row.
Whose the gm?
@@Iwannabegoodatchess_GDprobably no one here😂
In the middle of that sequence, the move I would have made was Ne6, forking the queen and the rook. And losing my knight to the bishop that was invisible to me for some reason.
Your videos are exactly what I be looking for. Thanks
I actually played a similar game yesterday. I sacrificed a bishop, which turned out to be a blunder, sacrificed a rook on the very next move and yet managed to checkmate my opponent in five moves. The problem was that I missed a checkmate in three because I got nervous. Fortunately, my opponent missed the only move that saves the game.
That's an interesting concept, really. I much prefer a slow, methodical type of playing, attacking my opponent's weaknesses and creating a mating net. That said, if there's an opportunity to sacrifice my entire army for a quick checkmate, I might consider doing it.
I'm rated 1600 and I wouldn't sacrifice in this position. But if you're in for a thrill, might give it a go
Im 2000 and I agree. Sure it has attacking opportunities, but I would much rather play h5 h6 and hopefully get a nice attack from there without a sacrafice
@williamsweeney5249 Definitely. As Bobby Fischer said: great opportunities come from a superior position. Not everyone has the understanding to play gambits as Mikhail Tal.
Seems the guy is nowadays posting for beginners because a intermediate player will refute that attack
@@williamsweeney5249hi I am 1200 elo is it really bad to sacrifice a bishop or knight for a pawn to destabilize the enemy kings defenses, so far it has worked for me?
What if you move the queen to back up the bishop?
Nelsi, you know that I remain one of your oldest ( in 2 ways) and greatest supporters, but this seems like poor calculation and hope chess,
As a beginner, this tactic often works for me. I'm aware if I get better this style of play will no longer work.
I agree, but playing for chances is fine. I've played risky sacrifices in otb and managed to win.
Queen B3 to C2, nice diagonal behind the bisschop
“Bisschop”😂
@@Thatoneguy-12 How is that piece called in _his_ language, btw?
@@msolec2000 How is that piece called in “Chess”, btw?
@@Thatoneguy-12 bisschop is dutch meaning
@@Thatoneguy-12 chess isn't a language, dimwit ... in international notation it's ♗, in Dutch it's "bisschop"
I think that you should always play a move under the assumption that your opponent will play perfectly. But greek gift go brrrr
Well even if your opponent were to play perfectly there is no way most players could calculate the move sequence in advance to know what the perfect moves would be. BUT if you could find at least one move by your opponent that casts doubt then I agree with you - it’s a no go on the sac. Generally if you aren’t making some sacrifices based on patterns and intuition then you are too passive of a player. You simply can’t calculate everything.
Meh I disagree. Chess is meant to be played for fun. If there's even a remote chance that a double or triple piece sac can lead to mate, you should go for it. Points come and go. The lulz of beating someone like this last forever.
Fantastic stuff NL! I just checkmated opponents-twice- yesterday and I was going on the instinct that their was something there. You made me realize I need to go through the sources-including Logical Chess- to help me see these opportunities with more clarity. Thanks. You have an incredible gift for teaching this game. Bless you.
Thanks Teacher Nelson 🤘👍
Alternative title could be that you shouldn't just trust your opponent's sacrifices. Like you said, they can consolidate with Bf5 and the attack completely fizzles. After Qd1, Bf5 is not even an only move. Qe8, g6, even Bxg5 are all fine. I honestly think this game is just not a good example since the most obvious and forcing line is terrible for white with no compensation.
There's the Colle vs John O'Hanlon game where the computer doesn't love Colle's Greek gift, but the normal move of Kg6 in response was a blunder. Even Kg8 would've required a series of precise moves to keep his advantage.
You make great videos. Really good explanations. Many thanks for your time.
2:33 en passant is a playable move and it was just like how said nelson if black takes the pawn then theres a discover check and white will win.
Even though I'm just 1500 I can analyze it because of what I just learned to stockfishes game
Nice spotted, but then lose the pawn defense and control in the middel and opens up the king in situation where don't plan to castle?
Excellent video. It’s great to hear you break down your process, what you noticed and why you chose a certain move (sometimes stockfish agrees, sometimes it doesn’t, but human-vs-human this is what you think is the best attack).
Feels like watching a 1200 rated game, the opponent had to blunder 3 times to give you a chance of winning
Question?
Why sacrifice the Bishop 1st instead of sacrafing the Knight 1st , which would make the Bishop pawn take safe with the Rook protecting it?
Actually sometimes, you can prepare a move (perhaps to block a king's escape)and if your opponent doesn't know what is happening and plays something else, you can play your next move and your opponent is stuck
Love ur vids so much
Please insist more on why it’s a bad move instead of coping like that
Finally some good content as per my liking. We are talking advance concepts
As a Colle and London player, this is pure gold...
I guess this kind of game is fine for
Finally someone says it.
Basically, that is a bluff move, similar to my rook sack. I sacked one rook which happened to be a bluff, it looked like I would be achieving a great attack but I didnt. My second rook sack and knight sack were brilliant moves that allowed me to checkmate my opponent with a casual queen manuevre.
Art of chess - Chapter 4: Blunder atttacks.
its a bad move according to stockfish because it doesn't work against stockfish
I have notifications turned on and I'm subscribed and your videos aren't coming up on my recommended which is frustrating cause I keep missing your videos 😢
Brilliant sacrifice move Nelson! ‼️
Blunder to be exact
That was brilliant!
Great video and tutorial.
9:18 into video … white moves Pawn to e6 in hope to take black’s Rook when in next move white’s Kt either moves to e6 or f7
I feel like some people could have learned a lot more if you tried to show why it’s not a good sac instead of coping for 15 minutes straight
Funny thing, I just did this in a game last week, knowing I would be behind but that the opponent will crumble under pressure. I got to a position with some 5 points of pieces behind but won in the end. Quite fun!
I would have prepared QD1 first, it is obscure enough that they might have a chance to waste a move
11:06 So instead of e6, whats the best move
I would guess g4, to undermine opponent's f pawn, and re-open the way for the Queen. Surprised he didn't mention it
EDIT: No, that seems wrong. Opponent will just not take and leave the tension there. And if we take, opponent takes with Bishop, with the Rook protecting him... :-/
Lovely insights
This is one of my favorite chess channels thanks! :)
6:00 threat is kE5 double check threatening, so knight must be captured, then sac rook h8 and queen H3 h7
I think you mean Nd5 first of all and then hanging the queen to the bishop on C8. You lost the rook, the knight and the queen. Resign😂
@@Wobesz he chooses queen d1 if black waste moves
But D5 is forced line
What do you mean by hanging queen?
@@Prashant-7 (6:00) First of all, you wrote KE5. It would be Ke5, secondly, The K is for king and the king is on e1, so unless he can magically teleport there I don't see how we're gonna get there. Mind you we have our own fucking pawn on e5. Therefore I'm assuming you meant Nxd5. and you're threatening a discovered check which results in a double check. So, you just fucked up the notation, sure whatever, idc about all of that. So let's say the knight on b6 takes back our knight and then we go Qh3 like you said. YOU HANG YOUR QUEEN TO Bc8 AFTER SACKING THE ROOK. NOW YOU"VE LOST YOUR ROOK YOUR KNIGHT AND YOUR QUEEN AND YOU CAN RESIGN. I'm not mad at you hahah, you're just not seeing the sniper on C8, which is humorous, but on the other hand I can't stand you not thoroughly reading my previous comment, which is pretty fucking clear. So at 6:00: Nxd5, Nxd5 (or Qxd5), Rh8+, Kxh8, Qh3+, Bxh3. that's right. Bishop takes queen on h3. Dead, deceased, gone.
@@Prashant-7 First of all It's Ke5 not KE5, secondly the K stands for king and the king is on e1, so unless it can magically teleport to e5 we are not getting there, mind you our own pawn is standing on that same square. For those two reasons I'm assuming you meant Nxd5, which threatens a discovered check resulting in a double check, which leads to material loss or checkmate. Therefore they have to take the knight. Either with the queen or with the knight. Let's say they take with the Knight.Then according to your line you sacrifice the rook on h8, king takes, and then you go queen h3+. That just simply hangs your queen to bishop c8. The notation: Nxd5, Nxd5 or (Qxd5), Rh8+, Kxh8, Qh3+, Bxh3...... Now you've lost your rook, your queen and your knight. Time to resign.
@@Wobeszzok miscalculated , didn't see the bishop
I am not a professional player/ strong player probably like you
Did exactly that the other day. I was losing real hard so i just sacrificed a piece to check the king. They took the bait and then all of a sudden i was winning.
I think it os important to mention the number of peices in play for g5. Black can attack with pawn, Bishop and queen, you have pawn, knight and bishop, and your turn right?
When u sacrifice , it depends on who ur playing. There are so many smurf accounts that practice that it makes it difficult to get out of 500 to 600. Play 900 and it’s easier than 400 to 500.
If black plays kg6 you can move Qh5. It black moved Kf5 you can move Nf7 with a discover check to take black queen
NE6 sorry.
Queen c2 would have been far faster for that mating pattern. Even if they moved that pawn on the G file forward, you could still take and get checkmate. Rook could block at f5, but then they have to keep the Rook there and something defending it like Bishop C8 is already doing.
nope your wrong
@@baileybailey919How so? I am 1010, so maybe I just don’t see the flaws
@baileybailey919 Super helpful and explanatory. Not contradictory or vague at all 👍
Edit: Contrarian, not contradictory. Damn auto correct.
@@TheSkullkid16 I hate autocorrect too
You gotta tell me at what time please. At the beginning it is the best move, but not because of mate threats so I don't think you mean that. At the very end there is a knight on d4, guarding c2, so it obviously wouldn't work.
I am guessing you mean instead of sacrificing the knight? Which also wouldn't work, they could move their f-pawn to block.
For the first question, it would help to know if you're playing white or black (paused at 0:24)
Why not QueenC2 before Bishop taking on H7?
I read about this the other day, I think the whole idea was called "hope chess"
Hello, first of all thank you for your great content, it helps me alot with getting better in chess. I have one question, why not after taking with the bishop: horse to d5, his horse probably takes and then taking with the queen would be a much easier and faster checkmate (If I don‘t miss anything, what could be the case, I am just 1.300) habe a great day and greetings from Austria
At first i thought Be4 to put pressure on D5 but after Be3 there is nothing.
I dislike the sac of the bishop, the knight sac looks fine, opening the H file often works for me
Bottom line: when in doubt, sac a piece. 😂
The best part about chess is getting the check mate imo. And worst part is getting checkmated by a child who looks bored.
Black to move to Kf7, e6+ ,be6,qh5+, kg8,g6 black queen has to take or gg
@chess_vibes: You should make a video on _defensive_ techniques: the opponent is threatening to carry out a strong attack, we have to spot the threat and guess what's the appropriate defensive move.
(Or do you already have such a video?...)
I'm scared af to sacrifice a piece if it is not fried liver attack case.
What about knight to g5 as first move as sacrifice. Black pawn takes it white takes with pawn which is taken by black bishop and then white bishop gives a check with support from its rook
5:54 Qc2 is m2 or I miss something?
Edit: lol didn't see that Kg6 can capture
Very good. So much fun!
Just got my first brillant move thanks to you
Always good ideas here. (PS: I've found that "Sac" is short for "sacrifice." It wouldn't be "sack.")
Hi Nelson, I would love a video on improving at faster time controls. I’m over 1400 rapid but I cannot seem to stay above 900 in blitz and I don’t even much bother with bullet because it basically feels like I’m makin random move
Get better at slower controls. That way you see patterns quicker (not just tactics, development and endgames as well)
Learning two openings for black and white at least six moves deep also helped me. Makes the middle game easier because you are not in a strange position quite as often. Also helps with time management.
Ive won countless games on the variations of greek sacrifice and when i looked at this position i was like huh? You can take? then what knight? Pawn captures? Pawn recaptures? Nah there has to be some juncture where this isn't right by just refusing to take material like a beginner. I can also see a lateral move to the H file by queen. The pawn getting to g6. So im curious if this stuff will work. Im taking the bishop then playing defense
It is only fun if it works or is sound. Whereas, if the bluff fails, one tends to look and feel like a complete idiot.
Then you just sac the rest of your pieces and pretend you weren't trying from the start. boom.
Best starting move for white is Kd1
I'm wondering why you didn't think queen to C2 earlier. I saw that as the best move even before moving the bishop.
Wondered that too. Pretty sure he was just having fun at a lower elo and wanted to sacrifice very badly.
Pawn to g6 is the best move. If Rook f8 to g6, then check with rook h1 to h8. King takes then Qd4 to Qh5 check. King to g8, Qh7 check. King f8, Qh8 checkmate. Isn't it so?
Good stuff
if it was me, I would have dropped the queen behind the bishop before sacrificing. would that have been too slow?
yes because black could push their pawn to f5 and then the sac line is interrupted. White can't take that pawn because they lose the trade, then any other move white can make to try to set something up, black plays something like pawn to g6 and that entire attack idea is lost.
@@Jammonstrald I should have seen that. you'd have to sacrifice the dark bishop first for my idea to work.
I got click baited, there is no sound continuation after the bishop sac. The biggest blunder was imo not taking the knight. I calculated after fxg5, hxg5 kg6 (not giving an opportunity to play g6 to white where white would be better), i dont see how white attacks. If qc2+ then simply kf7 and next black will develop his white bishop or tuck his king in e8 and play be6. White just don't have enough firepower for a mate.
if you go to high depth and stockfish still says it's a blunder, don't try to pass it as a "it makes sense" in some situations. Yeah sure, if your oponents blunders out you can recover, but you ain't beating stockfish.
Knight G5 is a better sacrifice
Each time in your videos, after you've asked if we'd like to pause, and I do, I wonder how many actually did NOT have a chance to look at it.
I always have a chance, but rarely find the right move.
How about kh8
why not
dxe6 ？
What if he pushed his H pawn? I see this as a potential threat to opening the file for rook or attacking with a queen and bishop.
But I am not really a chess player. Mr. Vibes didn't even mentioned that possibility, so this move might be trash somehow?
Depends a little on when you want to play that move. Starting position it would actually be a fine move, not great though. It's too slow, so black can be really annoying in the center with fxe5, creating their own attack by opening lines with white's king in the center.
Its not bad if your not agaunst Stockfish 😂
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NEVER suggest bad moves.
Agreed
Rf6 you win the queen after rook sac at h8
You forgot that kxe1
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Sorry I just can’t get on board with this one. The lesson seems to be, if your opponent blunders 3 times, you can still checkmate after you mess up. Isn’t this just the definition of hope chess?
It's "saccing"
I stuck at 1200 and this is what I wanted ❤
i would have taken the knight double fork and lost it lol
Queen on c2 to h7
Not usually a hater but this position is a pretty bad example, the queen is all the way on the queenside. If it was on d1 then consider the sac by all means, but we can't justify a sac when we have to spend time getting the queen in.
10:18 just do a simple en passant its mate in 3 or less???
This is a good example position and probably a good idea to sac, but i think you did a poor job explaining why. In order for this sac to be good you have to calculate at least "takes+ takes Ng5+ takes takes+ Kg8 g6". The advise to sac just because you have seen similar pattern before is terrible hopechess.
This is effective 3mins game but not on 10mins
This not working at 1400 😅