MAXAMET SHARPENING EXPLAINED
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- This is what I do for my Maxamet sharpening service.
I only sharpen Maxamet steel knives for customers, no other knives or steels.
No exceptions. I want to be a custom knife maker not a professional sharpener.
I'm using the Gritomatic Poltava Metallic Bonded CBN stones
full review of these later, they are found here
www.gritomatic...
Thanks a lot Shawn. Even thou I can sharpen most knives to hair whittling this one whip me. You put the sharpest edge I my self ever had are ever felt on a knife. On top that your are a super nice person that takes time with people. Highly recommend for anyone wanting Maxamet sharpen right. My the good Lord bless.
Randy Parker Thanks Randy, glad I could help, thanks for the privilege , it was very satisfing creating something that can bring someone joy.
God bless
@@FearNoSteel how to I send you my pm2 yes it’s in the same steel
Yup , we use the gifts the good Lord blessed us with , whatever that may be .
You could kill it at a TV show lol I swear. Your knowledge and ability to speak clearly and precisely are unmatched! Thank you so much Shawn for real. This stuff keeps me sane these days ❤️
I'm going to buy a Maxamet knife just so I can send it to you and see the difference between my S110V and the Maxamet
Edit: I love the fact that you have a microscope, it definitely adds depth to your videos. thoroughly impressed.
It's an absolute joy and privilege to watch and listen to you explain sharpening...
Thanks man....
Good work. I really enjoy watching you sharpen. I also respect the fact that you're proud of your work, but not full of yourself.
Bob Snyder thanks brother
I appreciate the fact that you speak clearly and loudly unlike many of the knife videos I’ve seen where the presenter sounds like he’s on downers.
I’m learning all kinds of good knowledge from these videos 👍. Thanks for taking the time. Knowing how to hone a hair whittling edge or sharpen people’s kitchen knives has got me some respect from some people . Similar to any good skill , it’s a worthwhile one to learn imo .
Man this was helpful. That's some beautiful hand sharpening. Really nice consistency and even bevel.
This is one of the best sharpening videos I have ever seen! Thanks! It helps so much to see the detailed tips of hand-sharpening. It truly is an art. Yes, we can all read the "how" and the theory but experience and technique make so much difference.
Those "stones" look awesome. Have to look at those.
Great video, these tutorials are very well executed and explained. I'm still on the fence about purchasing Maxamet because I know I don't have the skill/tools to sharpen it.
LOVING the saturated blue colour you showed in the end of the video ... ;)
Vesselin Georgiev yes Ooo pretty haha
I wish you would show me as much love as you did this edge 😭😘
dead xD
My two favorite knife YT's!
Impressed. Freehand is an art.
I am thuroughly impressed and inspired. Your channel offers more than I could have expected. Well done. Thank you
Great way of explaining how this stuff works. Inspiring to see that beautiful of an edge put onto a semi-mangled blade; thanks for sharing your expertise!
Great video, great explanations, thanks for this. The final result looked really absolutely great.
For me it looks that Maxamet isn‘t for the standard customer if he want‘s to do sharpening on his own. It needs a lot of experience and practice as well as some very expensive equipment.
Would you still recommend it to the „normal“ customer?
nah, just go for it
Wow, so jealous u make it look so easy. I actually just bought cheap Walmart Arkansas stone to practice sharpening my D2 civivi. I got a beautiful even edge on both sides but for some reason can't get it to apex. I've learned sharpening on worksharp precision elite learning how to get a burr and working off. Great video!
My Maxamet PM2 went 2 years. Didn't really need it but figured to work on it before it got bad. Just use the full set of diamond stones and sharpened up nicely. Here in Boston near the water it's not too bad bit I keep mine coated with edci out of an abundance of caution.
great walk through,with the steel..as always great to see and hear you do your thing,take care
How can i send my knife? My maxamet needs ur skills!
What do you charge to sharpen a maxamet and how do I send it to you?
I just got my sage Maxamet to replace the one I lost. The factory edge should hold up a while but I will definitely consider sending to you instead of doing it myself. I have about 100 knives that I sharpen myself but I would rather not mess up my Maxamet.
Thanks, Enjoy the Maxamet
Great video. You explain the steps very well.👍
Thanks homie!
I just ordered one of these and I suck at sharpening. Thanks for this
WOW, great job Brother!!!! 🤝🏾🇺🇸💪🏾 Do you still have your Sharpening Services for the Public? I'd like to give you my business.
Awesome impressive video. I have bought a set of 7 metal bonded cbn stones. But I have been using them with honing oil though and never tried to use'em as wetstones. That was interesting to find out one can use the stones as wetstones. What kind of dressing stone would you recommend to use with these cbn stones? Thanks!
Thats a great video. Very informative.
Do you ever use Porcelain hones instead of stroping? I used to use them a lot on my "cheap" victorinox kitchen knives and they seem to work great, but never use them on my pocket knives at it seems less precision/fine tuning.
I am not afraid to muck up a cheap kitchen blade just dragging it to keep it sharp. I was wondering if there are more precision porcelain hones that work similarly.
So I just finished sharpening my para 3 maxamet. I was having the problems people were talking about in the beginning. After I removed enough material and exposed fresh metal I stopped having problems. Almost like it was overheated at the edge.
I had some trouble with my pm2 as well. What worked for me was to just keep the same angle maybe 16 degrees idk. I cut out the ultra fine finishing stone and just left it at an atoma 1200 I think. It might have been a 600 plate. It’s stropped with by some jend s sprays and had been awesome since.
crf450r bullet david nice, yea just play with it to find what works, good stuff man.
Big Brown Bear your awesome man. Keep up the good work.
Great video. Very detailed. I made up some diamond strops, but I wasn't getting very good results (not better than green chromium oxide) until I lightened the pressure quite a bit. I'm going really light on the diamond strop now and the results are outstanding.
I really enjoyed. Learned so.much.
Hey Shawn, How do you re-dress the stones with compound? I had just purchased the Maxamet Manix 2! So i'm pretty stoked to get some use on it. Also, Where did you get your Diamond stones and Stropping compounds?
Semper Fi
Also, What is the difference between the Gritomatic Edge pro stones, vs the Edge pro stones on Amazon?
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M1O99H5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A29350M8J9NDWU&psc=1
Other that that it got scary sharp with a high polish. I don't see having problems in the future.
How can i send my knives?Just dont wanna mess with my maxamet.lol
Awesome video. And gorgeous edge. I wish he didn’t want the 3k tho. The mirror looks nice. But it’s a big hit to the preference.
Wow, i really need to improve my freehanding
First time I’ve seen someone do that s stroke, interesting!
I need your services what do you charge and how can I get your sharpening?
Do you take on new customers?, if so where can they reach you and do you sell knives?
Thanks,
Steve.
I'm having trouble getting my pm2 maxamet knife sharp, I have a dmt red fine 800 grit diamond bench stone and I can't even get it sharp what so ever.
Any tips? What stones do I need for sharpening maxamet?
Thanks
👌 Thanks for sharing your knowlegde. I think i will grab a second hand spyderco manix 2 i that steel
I am back to carrying a knife after many years without and picked up a Para3 maxamet
I use knife to cut boxes and open packages, zip ties occasionally, stuff like that, I don’t abuse my stuff really
My question to you,
What supplies should I get to maintain my steel? Do I get strop and diamond spray and strop it fairly often and then don’t have to actually sharpen it or hone it?
what edge do you think is best for my use? Toothy? If so what different microns or grits should I get?
Want to keep the edge up nice and sharp but I don’t want to get too crazy spending tons of money on minor differences , what’s best bang for my buck ?
Just coming across this video now….do you still sharpened Maxamet? I have a brand new Para 3 and I’m wanting it to have a super solid edge to start its life.
Those are some expensive CBN stones for their size. To me the Naniwa Diamond seem better value for money with more surface area. I guess you pay a premium for it being for a fixed rod sharpening system. What would you think about an Atoma diamond plate for the low grit (400?) speed + Naniwa 800 diamond finishing stone combo. The CBN stones not loading up does look very nice to me though. But you don't have that problem with Atoma plates and you won't be sharpening for that long on the Naniwa 800.
Rutger Mulder The cost comes down to the bond and thickness of the material. A 3mm Naniwa diamond would cost $400
That's why they are 1mm of abrasive.
That's a good combination, I have that combo. I like it. The Naniwa 800 finishes higher then the Gritomatic CBN 1000 too.
But do they wear at the same rate?
The 1 mm diamond will last a long time and won't really dish. Will the CBN stone too? I mean if it lasts long you don't really need 3mm and they could make it thinner/cheaper. If it wears faster it might dish and you need diamond/other CBN to flatten it.
The thing is the Naniwa diamond stone is 3x as wide and over 2 inches longer. So even at 1mm you got more abrasive in total than the CBN stones and you get a well know brand. One could also opt for the Venev diamond stones which are much cheaper at the same size and you get a 2mm coating on both sides of the stone for just $26.
CBN is more costly to make than synthetic diamond and still softer. CBN is more heat and chemical resistant, but none of those properties are of value for bench stones. The only benefit i see is that it won't load up as fast. The CBN stones in a resin bond are much cheaper than these metallic bonded ones, but they still cost more than the diamond ones. And they don't have the little load up benefit of the metallic bond.
The CBN stones seem to work great in your vid, but I am not really seeing the benefit of CBN as long as they cost more than diamond. Maybe a metallic bonded diamond is a future option?
To me it seems like this value for money: Want speed at lower grit and it is not your finishing stone? get a diamond plate. Want a good finish and more control on the speed? get a resin bonded diamond stone.
I've been using that combination for almost two years now, it works but I'm a very demanding sharpener, I always want more performance, diamond plates suck. they cut too deep, and they tear out, which means you have to use light pressure and rapid passes, which is actually kinda slow. the man benefit to the coated crap is that its very load resistant and the price is great. The resin bonding finishes the best doesn't dish almost at all and doesn't tear out but the problem is the feedback sucks, the speed sucks, and they load up.
So metallic bond and vitrified bonds have some advantages but the huge draw back is cost. I'm in the process of prototyping stones so I cant share more yet. what I can tell you so far is that my concern is more about bond compatibility with the abrasive more then knoop hardness, stone structure require heat treatment much like steels sometimes the temperatures that work best for the bonding mixture isnt the best for the abrasive.
there are 14 different types of CBN abrasive grains to buy and diamond too, all sorted based on crystal shapes and coatings
So I've found its silly to get tunnel vision on knoop hardness of the abrasive, similar to Rockwell hardness on steel, its much more involved, the micro-structure is crucial and I'm still learning and open to new things its based on real world testing not chart numbers
I like the Venev stuff very cost effective, the finishing isn't as good as the Naniwa diamond at the same grit but they are cheap cheap cheap. Great option if your focus on best bang for buck. I'd rather spend more though and get the Naniwa. More enjoyable, more performance.
Thanks for your explanation. I have no hands on experience with this stuff so i like your sharpening videos. Nice to see you are trying new stuff for us.
I saw on the Venev website that they do make metallic bond diamond grind wheels and those are not expensive at all.
I´m currently just sharpening on my Naniwa Professional/Chosera 400-800-3000. But i'm looking at my options to expand for when i get into maxamet (if Spyderco makes more again) and other high vanadium steels. The lowest Naniwa diamond is 600 grit so i would need something before that. Maybe Venev for low grit then. I think it's better to spend the most on the stone you will finish on. For maxamet and other steels that need a good working edge i guess stopping at a 800 Naniwa diamond seems best. And then just strop with diamond paste.
Appreciate the step-by-step. Although, not everyone has access to this variety of sharpening tools (or is it feasible to pay for sharpening services) - I think if I could go back in time I'd swap my Spyderco Para 3 Maxamet for a Benchmade. Also, if I bought the knife again, I'd just buy the plain Para 3 - the blade patina itself I like, but living near the river, this thing does horribly with sand and water for the internal components of the knife, making for a lot of fuss on cleaning it (while most just need to be sharpened) - creates a situation where a more expensive knife takes more work/time to deal with than a less expensive knife.
And the one spyderco pitfall I cannot stand - they don't honor the tips on their blades through warranty. Next knife will definitely be a Benchmade.
I'll attempt to get this down to the lowest grit I have using your technique (I also learned to sharpen from both sides, but it was due to being ambidextrous. I find the dominant hand still applies more pressure though, something to watch for)
Good content. Thoughts on the Benchmade Bugout?
I’ve been putting off buying a Spyderco Native 5 Lightweight Grey Maxamet because it the bad press that steel gets, great video!
Did the cbn stone come unglued from the aluminum plate also wouldn’t the ferric chloride mess with the aluminum plate
Dayyumm…I’m a novice Lansky user, and my 1000 grit isn’t as sharp as your 400 grit, LOL 😅. But, I’m paying attention here‼️
Nice set up bro!
Just amazing to watch... thanks bbb:)
Are you still sharpening?
Okay, do you think that the difference between maxamet and s110v is worth the price jump? In other words, on a budget should i get s110v or save up for maxamet?
Z. Ripley depends on what you want brotha, You know the answer I'll give you.
One last thing. After my 3k Ken Schwartz diamond stone do you think the 3k naniwa diamond would be a big step up on polish or should I get the 6k? I stop my work knives at 1200 but this is just for my high end ones. The 3k leaves a similar polish to the 1200 atoma and will get better as it breaks in more. I have a chosera full size lineup and kitiyama but I want a naniwa diamond to go with my diamond setup. I bet the 3k will look great by your video
Do you still provide sharpening services or was this a favor for someone?
I try to focus on making knives
I do a 1000 and a 1 micron strop on almost every one of my knives... when I was a beginner I used mothers aluminum magnesium polish to finish instead of a bare leather but I found that step to be sort of useless...
If i really fuckered my edge I’ll use a 600 as a working stone to remove damage then finish on the 1000 and a strop, and Iv thought about a chosera 3000 but I don’t really have the need right now...
How do I go about sending you a blade for sharpening?
factory sharpnes is 3 microns ? 6894 grit ? or ?
tnx 4 sharing ;)
How much do you charge for that mirror finish edge ?
im still new to all this, what (to all in the thread) do you think is a good start stone for diamond? I have an old DMT but wanting to replace, i was looking into venev but wanted anyone's opinion. I have a sage with maxamet and a 940-1, and a para 3 with s110v so im looking for diamond stones any advising?
Can you recommend a way to remove a little bit of damage of water corrosion damage to maxamet? I accidentally let mine stay wet for a little Too long and I have a few unsightly pits. .
barkeeperfriend powder, add water
Just ordered one 400 grit CBN edge pro stone that costs more than all of of my other stones combined, lol... hopefully it works good... especially on s110v
that stones needs ferric chloride to dress the surface, I like those stones
Tried that and it works great. Turned it from brown to grey and gave it a bit more bite.
Thoughts on CBN v Diamond on S90?
How can i contact you for your sharpening services
U make it sound easy, not for me. I gave up years ago and bought a KME. U do better free hand than I can with machine.
How do we become a customer?
Thank you for the vid.
That is awesome
My toxic trait is watching this and thinking "ehh I could probably do that". When I could in fact not do that.
very cool vid
How do you crush the edge?
When you sharpen a lot you'll notice that if you use too much force when using finishing stones you can round over the apex crushing the edge, the term was coined by Korin, a Japanese knife store that specializes in Freehand sharpening. look it up, watch the videos, learn more.
@@FearNoSteel thanks man
I think I’ll have to start mainlining this channel. Bottom line: Can I maintain a Maxamet blade with a Sharpmaker? I’m a total pleb, so this is a genuine question. Thanks!
CBN/Diamond rods, and a 1um Diamond spray strop on Leather
Big Brown Bear I really appreciate the reply. Do you have a strong feeling either way about diamond vs. CBN? I have no problem using very little pressure when that’s required
Is like to send my knife to you. Its a paramilitary 2 maxamet.
Yeah I taught my self to use my left hand and it is easier to work with blades.
Welp, that answers that question. Maxamet Manix it is
Oh.... So you .... Sharpen it.......
Lol great edge bro... All this talk about Maxamet im gonna go grab some.
I already have a manix in s110v... Oh well... Lol
steve callari I just got a few pieces of bar stock for hunters. I'd want a chef out of this stuff but can't find the size. For a chef I'll do rex121
What brand of diamond spray do u use?
Jovonn Trujillo Portland Knife House brand
can't make a burr, they did not use the stone you are using
Damn good work!! A lot of pros won’t even touch maxamet
Jacob Dawson what? Maxamet has better edge holding and toughness, and it’s still plenty stainless. How is 110 better?
I’m impressed... that’s amazing freehand work
I've been thinking about doing my left hand so I can see when my edge is touching the stone like with my right coming towards me. I've got a pretty good routine with just using my right but I feel like sometimes some of my passes dont hit the apex or go a little too high but like you do I check it often and always make sure my burr comes up on one side and then the other the whole way before switching stones. And sometimes I get the burr down to nearly nothing before switching to my next stone but it doesn't really matter I've realized. I feel like I always have an issue towards the tip with having a tiny tiny burr there that I am forced to stropping it to make it go away. Maybe if I start using my left hand too I can fix it by being able to see my edge...I hope so! I have a KME and while its awesome I have switched to basically just free hand for the last year and only use my kme if I want a show piece type edge with a crazy mirror. I can get my free hand to whittle hairs and stuff but like with s110v I have an issue with the last 1/8th of an inch at the tip not being able to get my burr to go away. Damn thing! Going to just keep at it though! And now I'm thinking of getting the cbn stones for edge pro and using them like you do. Although I really like my atoma set and 3k diamind from ken schwarts
Awesome video! I’m new to sharpening and just tackled my maxamet para 3. It cuts paper like butter, but my question is, other than feeling a burr, when do I know when to go up in grit?
Look at the scratch pattern
@@FearNoSteelscratch pattern?
This really illustrates one of the biggest issues I had with sharpening early on....not taking it far enough. Running it on one side til you think “that’s good enough” isn’t, indeed, good enough. You *really* have to get all the way down on every part of the blade, both sides, with each stone. If not, you have a really shiny looking bevel that’s either dull or goes “coarse, fine, sharp, coarse” on different parts of the edge. Super embarrassing and frustrating...
Your a beast bro. I appreciate all the tips. I’ve been debating on buying a knife with maxament. If you listen to the apostle he kinda steers you away from it. You made it look easy. Very impressive.
The apostle is overrated
This is great info! New sub! I also just checked out your S110V vid. Question: What kind of grit would you normally finish on for an EDC knife in M390, prior to stropping? What about D2?
I've got 3" x 8" Eze-laps, 150-250-600-1200, an ultra fine 3" x 8" Spyderco ceramic, and a CrO strop. Also, a couple of water stones and a bunch of SiC paper.
Ruster Kat preference is king, also depends on the cutting job.
I prefer the middle road. An 800 grit to a 1um diamond strop.
That's my favorite.
The 3k in the video I only use on special kitchen knives or for showing off. But not what I like on my edc
Thanks for the reply!
@@FearNoSteel I always found D2 on 800 grit cuts like a beast. Anything finer and it doesn't have the bite. You make very good points about working knives vs. "show" sharpening.
A lot of times a lower grit is the best for the task at hand and will last longer.
We are watching a true artist at work!
Ok, I'm sold. How do I reach you to sharpen my knives?
Do you still provide these services? I need my knife sharpened and cleaned. What’s your contact info? Thanks
My respect to people, who keep manual sharpening when there are plenty of excellent sharpening systems in the market like "Profil" or Apex for instance....
Velcro also works well for a semi permanent solution for using gritomatic stones freehand. I've added couple small strips to each end of each stone so I can still read the labels. Conveniently enough, the standard width for velcro matches the width of the stones. The trick is to not use too much velcro, since the modern stuff is so strong it'll actually pull the adhesive off if you use too much. But with the right amount you can attach the stones to a larger piece of wood with an antislip thing on the bottom. Hope this helps someone.
Super great idea!! Thanks😎👍
@@b80-s9i hey no problem! Glad it helped.
If I can sharpen a s110v on a lansky diamond, I could do maxamet yeah?
Love my para 3 Maxamet. I get it shave sharp quite easily. Good stuff
@Big Brown Bear I have a maxamet that I would like you to sharpen to a hair whittling edge.. what is your cost/process/turn around time?
So I'm on a kme and I can't get an edge like this even with the diamond lapping films. Any tips?
Make sure you get a burr and after that you just got to spend enough time on each stone.Also color the edge with a marker and run the stone across the edge to see if you are at the right angle.
Search KME tutorials on yt they explain everything
I bought a worksharp knife and tool sharpener Ken onion edition can I sharpen maxamet with that ?
Looks like he didnt break in his diamond stone before attempting to sharpen. I learned the hard way diamond plates need to be broken in before they work well
Are you still sharpening ? How much to do my para3 maxamet.?
Are you still sharpening Maxamet for us? If so please help!!
What did you use to clean these stones you said in the video,I just can't seem to catch it???
Do you still do sharpening? If so how do we contact you?
Sharpening is a art and you Sir are painting mona lisas!!