Official Ireland is just embarrassed that Northern Ireland was left behind in the war of independence, the free state government and media has been shown for their inadequacy to stand up and fight for Catholics in Northern Ireland who were oppressed and discriminated against for decades.
As a southerner I would like to apologize to my fellow nationalists in the north for these southern toe rags who dare question Padraig Maclochlainn for defending those who stood up for our people in the north.
Gerrymandered statelet. Created to preserve a false majority which failed anyway. The Unionists are a minority on the island. Very soon to be a minority in the north...if not already...What will they do then? As an Irishman I wouldn't be so narrow minded as too tell them to sod off back to Scotland or England...but that's just us.
In the Republic in the 1960s Protestants couldn't obtain birth control or divorce. They were discriminated against. Dave Allen (Irish comedian who made it big in England)was told by a Catholic priest that his mother was going to Hell because she was a Protestant. So, Mr Republican what would you propose the Protestant minority do against Catholic oppression in the South?
@Daniel Howard Well you side stepped the point. It is the central right of Protestants to divorce and use birth control and when the violence erupted in the 1960s it would be logical to say they were discriminated against. Tell that to the next republican who tries to justify bombing Ulster to pieces. That's the point. The Catholics will always be in a majority and as a Protestant in the 1960s you would not have had divorce or birth control.
@Daniel Howard They didn't bomb Dublin. I know atrocities were committed by the UVF, UFF One difference- their political parties don't get votes in elections ONly Sinn Fein doing so well in the REpublic gets MPs Does it occur to you that most uniuonists did not support the loyalist terrorists But the success of Sinn Fein suggests that many Irish nationalists do And that is the difference
Alan Lynch The IRA achieved plenty - i grew up in Derry during the worst of it, you clearly didn't. Ask anyone from a Republican background and you'll get the same answer. How about an end to widespread gerrymandering, the end of Catholics being disenfranchised and widespread religious discrimination for a start!
Actually Vincent, Dan Breen of FF publicly stated that he makes no apologies for murdering British soldiers. He said and I quote, "my only regret is I didn't kill more of them". Your argument here is totally out of order and is clearly bullying the one Republican representative on your show.
@@tommothedog hahahaha your comment is actually funny , yeah because Irish Catholics haven't been moving to America for literally centuries . Did you actually read what you wrote ? The protestants came to Ireland that was a Catholic country and treated badly , Ireland is a Catholic country any protestants here are descents from the British And the Catholics have to answer ? To what their country was invaded, also it was Catholics burned at the stakes not protestants Still not as bad as the protestant Brits did in the Irish tho is it ? O and the Scots who are also majority Catholic
6+26=2 6 counties of Northern Ireland +26 counties of the Republic of Ireland =2 countries in the United Kingdom (Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland)
Probably the worst interviewer in history. You don’t just get to ask the sales question again because you don’t like the answer. Well handled by Pádraig Mac Lochlainn
Vincent Browne is just going on an on arguing over the use of the word 'duty' while ignoring the hypocrisy that Pádraig MacLoclainn is pointing out. And Charlie Flanagan going off on the ubiquitous Fine Gael anti-Sinn Féin rant when the founders of his party were in Sinn Féin and the IRA.
BRAD PITT Or a Unionist to condemn British war crimes and human rights abuses? It is narrow minded and exceedingly hypocritical for any Irish person to condemn the PIRA. Obviously they did many bad things that should be condemned but there aim is the same s the ''Old'' IRA that End and his cohorts glorify every year.
Pádraig Mac Lochlainn of PSF handled himself well here, but why doesn’t he and PSF grant the same logical argument to the current IRA groups? Ah well, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
@@abren5974 “BeCaUsE ThEyRe AnGrY” it wasn’t some tantrum they went on mate , there was legitimate reason to take up arms , yes the killing of civilians is disgraceful but let’s not rewrite history pal.
Trouble is with those arms they murdered mostly women and children. I hate these people with personality disorders committing despicable immoral acts to justify their morals.
Wait til we unite, these are politicians, you'll be greeted by people asking "cupán tae?".. you won't it will be in English 👍😁 Be grand, you'll be welcomed.
Michael Collins:Leader of opposition that killed and maimed innocents and combatants,in cold blood.Won the "War For Independence":Hero rating:100 Terrorist Rating:0 Gerry Adams:Leader of opposition that killed and maimed innocents and combatants,in cold blood.Lost the -"War For Independence"- Troubles/Conflict/Wacky Races :Hero rating 0 Terrorist Rating:100
kcirdrab Britain occupies a part of Ireland that it never had any right to . Then they , along with other opportunists, demonize anyone who stands up to them. Stay in your own country and you will have no problems.
Mr Mac Lochlainn if condemnation of PIRA violence by those who defend Collins violent campaign is to be defined as hypocrisy how is it not hypocrisy for sinn fein to defend PIRA violence yet condemn RIRA CIRA violence?
Northern Ireland was never an apartheid state. What utter nonsense. The Catholic Church have children in NI going to Catholic Churches instead of secular state schools.
Greame Mcg the Scottish flag ain't British you dumb fuck. And it won't be long till the Scottish flag is out of the British flag, Soar Alba agus Erinn. Dumb hun.
Greame Mcg The Saltaire is 100% Scottish, it has been around long before the union and will be around long after it. Scotland will be independent by 2022 I assure you, there's no way 55% of no voters are still voting no after Britain voted to leave the EU. And I'm Scottish, I don't see why I would go back to Ireland, why don't you go to England you bigoted fucker. Stay there and don't talk pish about my country again
Firstly I fully support a United Ireland preferably within the Commonwealth. Having said that the atrocities that were carried out by the terrorists on both sides were utterly unforgivable. On the Republican side, the Catholic Church has a lot to answer for in regard to the comfort and succor that it offered.
Sorry got it wrong I was so angry I was going back to 1918 but so much anger from the IRA apologist I suppose nobody wants to admit their father was a murderer
I believe in a 32 county republic that holds true to the message of the Tricolor. I just get sick of Nationalists claiming the PIRA where not Terrorists because the English/RUC or paramilitaries were.
Terrorism as a phrase has become so diluted and pointless after 9/11 that I choose not to use it. Just because you have a government backing you doesn't make your actions not 'terrorism'.
Vincent browne being theatrical, taking the moral high ground, very easy to do
Official Ireland is just embarrassed that Northern Ireland was left behind in the war of independence, the free state government and media has been shown for their inadequacy to stand up and fight for Catholics in Northern Ireland who were oppressed and discriminated against for decades.
As a southerner I would like to apologize to my fellow nationalists in the north for these southern toe rags who dare question Padraig Maclochlainn for defending those who stood up for our people in the north.
50% of whom are British. Why don't the Republicans just do everyone a favour and sod off and live in the South - and stay there!!
Gerrymandered statelet. Created to preserve a false majority which failed anyway. The Unionists are a minority on the island. Very soon to be a minority in the north...if not already...What will they do then? As an Irishman I wouldn't be so narrow minded as too tell them to sod off back to Scotland or England...but that's just us.
@@RebelofIreland Banter
Please don't call us Southerners. It's north, south, west, east and central. Or just say the Republic.
@@Puppy-ew4be Why don't you fuck off back to Britain? You lot keep saying you're British. Prove it then.
Padraig is right on this one it is hypocritical to glorify the IRA during the war of independence but paint the provos as terrorists.
In the Republic in the 1960s Protestants couldn't obtain birth control or divorce. They were discriminated against. Dave Allen (Irish comedian who made it big in England)was told by a Catholic priest that his mother was going to Hell because she was a Protestant. So, Mr Republican what would you propose the Protestant minority do against Catholic oppression in the South?
@Daniel Howard Well you side stepped the point. It is the central right of Protestants to divorce and use birth control and when the violence erupted in the 1960s it would be logical to say they were discriminated against. Tell that to the next republican who tries to justify bombing Ulster to pieces. That's the point. The Catholics will always be in a majority and as a Protestant in the 1960s you would not have had divorce or birth control.
@Daniel Howard They didn't bomb Dublin.
I know atrocities were committed by the UVF, UFF
One difference- their political parties don't get votes in elections
ONly Sinn Fein
doing so well in the REpublic gets MPs
Does it occur to you that most uniuonists did not support the loyalist terrorists
But the success of Sinn Fein suggests that many Irish nationalists do
And that is the difference
If that's the case surely it's hypocritical for sinn fein to paint the continuity IRA as terrorists.
Take it down from the mast
Vincent brown is a west brit
Padraig should be very proud of how he handled himself. Well done.
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1 good man and 3 west brit saps.
brendan w There is no justification for killing men in cold blood.
Alan Lynch Which particular killing/killings are you referring to?
brendan w Those it really matter? Did the modern IRA in the north achieve anything?
Alan Lynch
The IRA achieved plenty - i grew up in Derry during the worst of it, you clearly didn't. Ask anyone from a Republican background and you'll get the same answer. How about an end to widespread gerrymandering, the end of Catholics being disenfranchised and widespread religious discrimination for a start!
+brendan w Ask anyone from a Republican background and you'll get the SF/IRA answer
hypocrite was the correct term given
You forgot your Union Jacks, Browne & Flanagan. - Pádraig Mac Lochlainn did very well.
Interviewer *Asks question*
Sinn Féin *answers question*
Interviewer *Asks same question*
Sinn Féin * Answers question*
@@Puppy-ew4be what are ye even on about lad
Yeah. See Jeremy Paxman interviewing Michael Howard to show the truth of your point. 🤣
Actually Vincent, Dan Breen of FF publicly stated that he makes no apologies for murdering British soldiers. He said and I quote, "my only regret is I didn't kill more of them".
Your argument here is totally out of order and is clearly bullying the one Republican representative on your show.
The South has forgotten the North
Well said comrade you have my respect and your father has my respect
@@abren5974 *soldier
B "Soldier" and "terrorist" are not mutually exclusive
@@abren5974 One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.
Padraig good man
How much times does he have to say “A duty to murder, a duty, a duty”
They were casualties of war imo. Not murder. Casualties.
Does the interveiwer realise, if he had been in the north with that accent hed of been treated the same as any other 'fenian'
@@tommothedog hahahaha your comment is actually funny ,
yeah because Irish Catholics haven't been moving to America for literally centuries . Did you actually read what you wrote ?
The protestants came to Ireland that was a Catholic country and treated badly , Ireland is a Catholic country any protestants here are descents from the British
And the Catholics have to answer ? To what their country was invaded, also it was Catholics burned at the stakes not protestants
Still not as bad as the protestant Brits did in the Irish tho is it ? O and the Scots who are also majority Catholic
@@tommothedog aye ok 🙄
26+6=1
6+26=2
6 counties of Northern Ireland
+26 counties of the Republic of Ireland
=2 countries in the United Kingdom (Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland)
Probably the worst interviewer in history. You don’t just get to ask the sales question again because you don’t like the answer. Well handled by Pádraig Mac Lochlainn
More Men like Paidraig required
Vincent Browne is just going on an on arguing over the use of the word 'duty' while ignoring the hypocrisy that Pádraig MacLoclainn is pointing out. And Charlie Flanagan going off on the ubiquitous Fine Gael anti-Sinn Féin rant when the founders of his party were in Sinn Féin and the IRA.
+Seán Leahy asking a SF member to condemn the IRA is like asking a catholic priest to condemn the vatican
BRAD PITT Or a Unionist to condemn British war crimes and human rights abuses?
It is narrow minded and exceedingly hypocritical for any Irish person to condemn the PIRA. Obviously they did many bad things that should be condemned but there aim is the same s the ''Old'' IRA that End and his cohorts glorify every year.
Seán Leahy
they did many bad things????? do you have any fucking idea how dismissive you sound
BRAD PITT Well how would you describe British atrocities then?
Seán Leahy
the brits aren't knocking on my door smiling telling me they'll be expecting my vote
Good man Pádraig
Pádraig Mac Lochlainn of PSF handled himself well here, but why doesn’t he and PSF grant the same logical argument to the current IRA groups? Ah well, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.
RUC ,MI5, MI6, UVF, UDR, FRU, UFF, etc, 25000 thousand British army fighting against the PRIA! NO CONTEST! hold my beer 🍺! PIRA !
Well said padraig ,
how can you use the word DUTY so often in a discussion!! Unbelievable!!
RUC was a legit target
Typical hypocrisy from free staters.
that vincent Brown is such a clown
Why? Because he thinks it's wrong for republicans to kill people just because they're angry? That doesn't seem too crazy to me.
Abren He didn’t criticise Loyalist he is a west Brit.
@@abren5974 “BeCaUsE ThEyRe AnGrY” it wasn’t some tantrum they went on mate , there was legitimate reason to take up arms , yes the killing of civilians is disgraceful but let’s not rewrite history pal.
Freestaters up to no good as usual
well said Maclochlainn
West Brit host.
West Brit Fine Gael fool.
Browne you just don't get it....ye west Brit......
everything padraig mac lochlainn said is correct and right .
Sinn Fein man is telling the truth, WELL DONE!
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The interviewer seems to have discovered a new word ‘duty’, how the hell did he get that job?
In any war you have a duty to not harm captives
keep asking the same question 9 times until you get the answer you want to hear.
It's a terrible pity Harris was not in the car with them then 3 bad apples could have been dealt with.
Well said...
Charlie loyalist Flanagan on air as usual seeking attention
Duty to protect!
How many times does he have to say it Vincent????
Trouble is with those arms they murdered mostly women and children.
I hate these people with personality disorders committing despicable immoral acts to justify their morals.
Padraig is 1000 percent right ✅
Browney U've lost all ligitimacy to hold an Irish passport!
Oh, I bet he's gutted 🙄😂
93 % protestant, 100 % unionist, in a uniform
Beast mode
No Soldier has a Duty to Murder! They have a Duty to Protect!
surely it's not legal to Say this on television. just goes to show what goes on in the republic
Wait til we unite, these are politicians, you'll be greeted by people asking "cupán tae?".. you won't it will be in English 👍😁
Be grand, you'll be welcomed.
There’s lots of pro-IRA language in the RoI. It’s very common.
They still have a right to armed struggle support the dissidents from Fermanagh ✊️✊️🇮🇪🇮🇪
True hurts boys doesn't it 👏 🇮🇪
The british never suffered anywhere near enough!!
How should the British have been made to suffer more? And what would it have achieved?
Suffered for what exactly?
Michael Collins:Leader of opposition that killed and maimed innocents and combatants,in cold blood.Won the "War For Independence":Hero rating:100 Terrorist Rating:0
Gerry Adams:Leader of opposition that killed and maimed innocents and combatants,in cold blood.Lost the -"War For Independence"- Troubles/Conflict/Wacky Races :Hero rating 0 Terrorist Rating:100
RIP Martin.
5:25 Pádraig tells it all with the fewest words... Ghandi & MLK.... good point
Judases
Viva Irland
The idea that "because Michael Collins did something" it makes it all right, as if he's some christ-like religious figure beyond reproach, is bizarre.
Listen... what he was trying to get at was both sides were right and wrong, it’s war.
kcirdrab Britain occupies a part of Ireland that it never had any right to . Then they , along with other opportunists, demonize anyone who stands up to them. Stay in your own country and you will have no problems.
@@meloconnor9364 Define "occupation"
Well he is a hero like in Ireland unless your extremely Irish Republican orca Ulster Loyalist twat like you.
@@Horizon344 if the German govt invaded England and kept six counties what would you call it?
What an absolute plonker =/
A voice?
Irish Freedom fighters god bless
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Leder s
Mr Mac Lochlainn if condemnation of PIRA violence by those who defend Collins violent campaign is to be defined as hypocrisy how is it not hypocrisy for sinn fein to defend PIRA violence yet condemn RIRA CIRA violence?
jonoessex because RIRA and CIRA are drug dealing who drag the name of Óglaigh na hÉireann through the mud
I think PIRA already did that through their own criminality. The Northern Bank Robbery for example.
jonoessex I would sort of agree that they did damage to the name not by bank robbery but by accidental civilian casualties
Yes and intentional killings of civilians.
jonoessex there was no intentional killing by true IRA members
Heres the iras ace in the whole th-cam.com/video/O3GnMx31BJA/w-d-xo.html
Northern Ireland was never an apartheid state. What utter nonsense. The Catholic Church have children in NI going to Catholic Churches instead of secular state schools.
Sinn Fein makes good point but IRA crimes were terrible.
British crimes are alot worse I can assure you.
Greame Mcg the Scottish flag ain't British you dumb fuck. And it won't be long till the Scottish flag is out of the British flag, Soar Alba agus Erinn. Dumb hun.
Alba Gu Brath Are you from Scotland or NI.
Robert Kelly Scotland
Greame Mcg The Saltaire is 100% Scottish, it has been around long before the union and will be around long after it. Scotland will be independent by 2022 I assure you, there's no way 55% of no voters are still voting no after Britain voted to leave the EU.
And I'm Scottish, I don't see why I would go back to Ireland, why don't you go to England you bigoted fucker. Stay there and don't talk pish about my country again
Firstly I fully support a United Ireland preferably within the Commonwealth. Having said that the atrocities that were carried out by the terrorists on both sides were utterly unforgivable. On the Republican side, the Catholic Church has a lot to answer for in regard to the comfort and succor that it offered.
Ireland will never be in the commonwealth
No apologies up the Rebels
Sorry got it wrong I was so angry I was going back to 1918 but so much anger from the IRA apologist I suppose nobody wants to admit their father was a murderer
this republicanism is sooo hollow. So unconvincing. So puerile. So wrong.
God bless the reporter
A man who, because of misplaced familial feelings, reduces himself down to being a Terrorist apologist because of the sins of his father - sad.
Do you condone the British forces who murdered Irish people for centuries and forced their rule on us.
@@pauliewalnuts100You've been brainwashed by Republican propaganda, snap out of it & stop being a victim.
@@Horizon344 As expected, you don't have an answer.
@@pauliewalnuts100 Meaning you received an answer that your brainwashing can't handle, so you just knee-jerk reject it?
@@Horizon344 No you didn't come up with an answer. You just said I was brainwashed. Do you ever think that maybe you were brainwashed?
I believe in a 32 county republic that holds true to the message of the Tricolor. I just get sick of Nationalists claiming the PIRA where not Terrorists because the English/RUC or paramilitaries were.
Terrorism as a phrase has become so diluted and pointless after 9/11 that I choose not to use it. Just because you have a government backing you doesn't make your actions not 'terrorism'.
The british army was against them. The irish army woudlnt help them all they could do was create their own army
No surrender God save the queen 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
I'm guessing 12 year old in the Shankill.
Stop licking the holes of the elites