At this price point (RPI 5 + SATA HAT plus all the additional adapters and small PSUs) it's better to invest in a N100 NAS motherboard. You will get 6 native SATA ports and you can add more through PCI-E slot or with m.2 to SATA adapter. Power consumption will be 5-8W higher. You can even install TrueNAS and run StorJ as a natively supported app in TrueNAS while having the benefits of all the management, monitoring and alerting TrueNAS has to offer. But for a pure Pi project, yeah it's cool :)
But there are people (like me) being tired of x86 craps, and I pay happily a bit more for a nice arm/ppc (anything but x86) based solution. That’s why I built my retro arcade stuff on rpi5 with nvme and analog rgb hats. And it is a litle diamond :)
7:03 You need to connect common ground between the ATX power supply and USB-C power supply from the source. Currently your system are having common ground from SATA Pins and USB Pins, which is disturbing as these are DATA Pins, NOT power pins. Having Data pins carry your MAIN ground might cause instability at best and data corruption at worst. My suggestion, connect 2 or 3 GND GPIO and connect it to any 4 PIN or 6 Pin GND as those have thicker gauges.
@@hgsoftware5129 You mean AC mains? That's earth and most modern PSU has isolated AC and DC. Don't believe me? Set multimeter to continuity between earth pin and GND of your power supply. You have common ground so your negatives don't go out of whack. 12V psu is not 0-12V, it might be -1V and 11V. Similarly, Pi 5V is not 5V-0V, might be 4.5V,-0.5V. Remember data pins are only 0 and 1s. So if you don't combine both grounds, PSU1 says -1V is ground, PSU2 says -0.5V is ground, your data will have a hard time mix matching grounds like that causing instability. Just connect both grounds!!
@@hgsoftware5129 A simple example is led strip. The controller = 5V led strip = 12V The led strip won't turn on if you don't connect the grounds together.
Thanks for The feedback. The setup has Been rock solid so far - new video coming soon. And The board Cannon handle 5 3.5 hdd i also mentioned this in The video and thats also why i use a normal ATX PSU
Hey, i Will give you a link: www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-components-accessories/cc-8930032/hdd-upgrade-kit-with-3x-hard-drive-trays-and-secondary-hard-drive-cage-parts-graphite-600t-730t-760t-780t-obsidian-450d-650d-750d-cc-8930032
Well, idk if this one is RAID Capable, but a good difference point is at the SATA connection config, cause´ with this one you can use SATA cables and you can fully manage drives disposition in your custom case, in contrast the "Radaxa" one that you can only put your drives in a single position and only you can put 2.5" drives
i'm kind of newbie here, but one question comes to my mind, why did you have to run one node for each disk and not join all of the disks to one same node?
That’s a great question! Thanks for asking. I all disks have 1 single node, then if one disks fails and dies the whole node will be forever lost. But this way I split that risk :)
With more powerful hardware you can run RAID and have one node with drive fail protection, but you always loose capacity (unless RAID0, but nobody would use that). He just choose to risk node failing (single drive) to not loose the capacity and maximize earnings - smart thing to do with that low-power setup.
This is still going strong! I have not had any issues and all 6 disks are stilling running no problem. Check out my newest video where I have a website you can visit to see its running
I Will have to get back to you on that. I’m adding a power meter that monitors this. In the future I will do an update on this and I also have plans of a website where people can monitor the power draw and earnings! :)
exactly my thoughts it's $63 just for sata ports. also if you include raspberry pi cost, it is not feasible. I'd instead go for Intel n100 motherboard.👍👍
100% - also i really wanted to make a video of this. When the jonsbo n5 comes out, I would love to make a video about a build in that, maybe using the n100.
The RPi5 is actually not bad! To save on electricity I moved the drives from a dual Xeon Dell PowerEdge R730 to a similar RPi5 + x1009 setup and it has been great for SAMBA and Jellyfin. I wished there were more exposed PCIe lanes, but I think the main bottleneck is lack of on-board 2.5GbE. Energy savings is about $50/mo
@@phil9309depends on what you mean by "use." The Pi only has 1 gen 2 lane (5gbps,) a single SATA SSD will completely saturate that. You could connect 5 of them and it will work, but the total throughput will still be a maximum of 5gbps (probably about 500MB/s.) That single pcie gen 2 lane is a huge bottleneck for storage. Now if you don't need more than 500 MB/s, have at it. I think a Rockchip based board with x4 Gen 3 lanes is much better suited to a NAS.
@@hgsoftware5129I'd love to see some kind of disk performance test. This is probably fine for most stuff, but some people need more throughout on their data storage.
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love the idea with the hdd upgrade cages and the tinker perspective in general
Thanks alot man! I love building weird hardware solutions🫣😂
The hamster wants his wheel back!
Okay? I’m not sure I get the joke?
loved how you walked us through each step, so helpful!
Im glad you liked it! Thanks :)
At this price point (RPI 5 + SATA HAT plus all the additional adapters and small PSUs) it's better to invest in a N100 NAS motherboard. You will get 6 native SATA ports and you can add more through PCI-E slot or with m.2 to SATA adapter. Power consumption will be 5-8W higher. You can even install TrueNAS and run StorJ as a natively supported app in TrueNAS while having the benefits of all the management, monitoring and alerting TrueNAS has to offer.
But for a pure Pi project, yeah it's cool :)
100% Correct- this was more of a pi project i wanted to give a try.
Btw check my newest video with The website everyone Can use to monitor The pi :)
But there are people (like me) being tired of x86 craps, and I pay happily a bit more for a nice arm/ppc (anything but x86) based solution. That’s why I built my retro arcade stuff on rpi5 with nvme and analog rgb hats. And it is a litle diamond :)
You mean aliexpress N100 junk?
@@su1ka Yes. It was probably manufactured one street over then one you have.
@@CoreyPL but the problem is with the quality control, cheap components and very poor BIOS that probably will not be supported... unfortunately... 😞
Cool build, great video
Hey man! Thanks so much for the feedback.
It's a neat experiment, but I wonder if just buying an old office tower and adding hard drives to that wouldn't be more cost effective.
It Might. I wanted to work with The rpi5 and its Low power usage, so far its been great
New video aboout it is coming soon
YOU ARE DROP DEAD GORGEOUS
Thanks alot for The compliment :)
7:03
You need to connect common ground between the ATX power supply and USB-C power supply from the source.
Currently your system are having common ground from SATA Pins and USB Pins, which is disturbing as these are DATA Pins, NOT power pins.
Having Data pins carry your MAIN ground might cause instability at best and data corruption at worst.
My suggestion, connect 2 or 3 GND GPIO and connect it to any 4 PIN or 6 Pin GND as those have thicker gauges.
Hey - thanks for the comment, but the ground is shared with the PSU so i belive grounding is sufficient
@@hgsoftware5129
You mean AC mains? That's earth and most modern PSU has isolated AC and DC.
Don't believe me? Set multimeter to continuity between earth pin and GND of your power supply.
You have common ground so your negatives don't go out of whack.
12V psu is not 0-12V, it might be -1V and 11V. Similarly, Pi 5V is not 5V-0V, might be 4.5V,-0.5V.
Remember data pins are only 0 and 1s. So if you don't combine both grounds, PSU1 says -1V is ground, PSU2 says -0.5V is ground, your data will have a hard time mix matching grounds like that causing instability.
Just connect both grounds!!
Thanks. Im not sure if i understand 100% - but i Will look into it
@@hgsoftware5129
A simple example is led strip.
The controller = 5V
led strip = 12V
The led strip won't turn on if you don't connect the grounds together.
So just to understand, what device so you belive that uses 5v and needs to ground with 12v?
Untidy setup I have to say... the most important thing at least to me was to know if the board power connector can handle 5 3.5 current draw
Thanks for The feedback. The setup has Been rock solid so far - new video coming soon.
And The board Cannon handle 5 3.5 hdd i also mentioned this in The video and thats also why i use a normal ATX PSU
Ready for production, I'd say.
Thanks man! 😀 it now running 24/7 no issue so far.
main question....are those expension boards stackable in any way??🤣😍
Haha Good question! I dont Think so as there is only one pcie connector on the pi 5 😅
Hey How to buy that drive cage from Corsair? Their site doesnt have the option
Hey, i Will give you a link:
www.corsair.com/us/en/p/pc-components-accessories/cc-8930032/hdd-upgrade-kit-with-3x-hard-drive-trays-and-secondary-hard-drive-cage-parts-graphite-600t-730t-760t-780t-obsidian-450d-650d-750d-cc-8930032
Any thoughts on using the Radxa Penta SATA Hat instead? Any reason why you chose this Geekworm one?
I dont know that one, i Might wanna give that a look
Well, idk if this one is RAID Capable, but a good difference point is at the SATA connection config, cause´ with this one you can use SATA cables and you can fully manage drives disposition in your custom case, in contrast the "Radaxa" one that you can only put your drives in a single position and only you can put 2.5" drives
Crazy!
So much space🫡
What is the part number of the SATA hat controller chip? I didn't see that in the 1009 documentation.
Hey man - im not sure sorry.
@@hgsoftware5129 You can get a pretty good idea by running "lspci".
Will try😀
Seems to be:
SATA controller: Jmicron JMB58x AHCI
i'm kind of newbie here, but one question comes to my mind, why did you have to run one node for each disk and not join all of the disks to one same node?
That’s a great question! Thanks for asking.
I all disks have 1 single node, then if one disks fails and dies the whole node will be forever lost. But this way I split that risk :)
With more powerful hardware you can run RAID and have one node with drive fail protection, but you always loose capacity (unless RAID0, but nobody would use that). He just choose to risk node failing (single drive) to not loose the capacity and maximize earnings - smart thing to do with that low-power setup.
Could I ask how is this holding up? Do you have any issue with throughput or stability and heat? Have any cool case/cover suggestion for this?
This is still going strong! I have not had any issues and all 6 disks are stilling running no problem. Check out my newest video where I have a website you can visit to see its running
Is it possible to use a USB, 5 bay docking station?
Yes this should be possible with usb 3.0 and enough power for the drives
Not the prettiest but definitely the beefiest!
Haha thanks for The feedback, has Been running so smooth ever since
Can you power the pi also from the 5V line from atx? And what about omv?
You could power The pi with 12v from atx psu, but you loose some usb c safety features So thats why i did not
What's the overall power consumption?
I Will have to get back to you on that.
I’m adding a power meter that monitors this. In the future I will do an update on this and I also have plans of a website where people can monitor the power draw and earnings! :)
@@hgsoftware5129 👀 thanks
Well.. I mean it works, just hide it away from sight.. :)
Haha yes, i Will do that ;)
Hardisk More expensive than raspberry pi🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh Yea! Alot more expensive - pi is Allmost the cheapest in this build😂
exactly my thoughts it's $63 just for sata ports.
also if you include raspberry pi cost, it is not feasible. I'd instead go for Intel n100 motherboard.👍👍
Yea - the n100 with a mobo is 100% a cheaper option :) this is more for entertainment and having fun building it ;)
@@hgsoftware5129 yes I agree with you on this one 💯
The process of making and the enjoyment that we get out of it is priceless 😇
100% - also i really wanted to make a video of this.
When the jonsbo n5 comes out, I would love to make a video about a build in that, maybe using the n100.
sorry but all i hear is kermit the frog
Haha weird but okay!
slow raspberry
Its plenty fine for my beeds
The RPi5 is actually not bad! To save on electricity I moved the drives from a dual Xeon Dell PowerEdge R730 to a similar RPi5 + x1009 setup and it has been great for SAMBA and Jellyfin. I wished there were more exposed PCIe lanes, but I think the main bottleneck is lack of on-board 2.5GbE. Energy savings is about $50/mo
Fully agree, btw you can get 2.5Gig Ethernet to usb 3 and use on the pi :) and it’s not so expensive
@@hgsoftware5129 USB 3.0 to 2.5GbE is next on my list, but without an appropriately designed enclosure it will look like a science fair project 😄
Haha yes - just like mine does now😂
Useless. With pi's throughput perf.
I disagree, with pcie its fast enough for a node
@@hgsoftware5129 Thank you for your video! Is it fast enough to actually use 4 2,5 SSDs?
I belive so - but im not 100% sure
@@phil9309depends on what you mean by "use." The Pi only has 1 gen 2 lane (5gbps,) a single SATA SSD will completely saturate that. You could connect 5 of them and it will work, but the total throughput will still be a maximum of 5gbps (probably about 500MB/s.) That single pcie gen 2 lane is a huge bottleneck for storage. Now if you don't need more than 500 MB/s, have at it. I think a Rockchip based board with x4 Gen 3 lanes is much better suited to a NAS.
@@hgsoftware5129I'd love to see some kind of disk performance test. This is probably fine for most stuff, but some people need more throughout on their data storage.