What is a Brush Gun? Part 2
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In this much requested follow up to the original video, we take a look a several other calibers that could be considered good "brush" rounds for hunting applications. Lets see what happens. Stay tuned, much more on the way.
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dunno about that Martini, it only barely *smacked* *the* *ever-lovin'* *shit* *out* *of* *that* *steel* *plate* . holy crap
Yeah, I thought it was gonna knock it down.
Very impressive. Would not want to be Zulu.
DEEEAAAAMMM, dawg -- that Martini was the only gun that sent the entire target structure a'topplin'... LMAO -- knocked the bejeezus out of it. Flippin' Eric has a custom mold made for the 'ol Martini to chamber a damn twelve POUND projectile... ;-)
That thing was a beast! Can only imagine what that would do to a living target
@@Warhawk76 ask the zulu
"Relatively unscientific, but it's still fun." Shirt please
AdmiralMinell iii
I would buy one.
I would buy that shirt.
I reject your science and substitute for fun
I would buy every shirt they made and replace my entire wardrobe
I’m glad to see 44 mag, but what about 45 colt, 350 legend 450 bushmaster, .458 socom or .50 beowulf. There should definitely be a part 3. Love these vids
Most of them would do about the same just scale for weight vs velocity. 350 legend would be interesting
I agree with needing a part 3, and he also needs to include a 10 gauge magnum slug, & buckshot... 😁👍
@@fieroboom Maybe take some of the successful rounds back a few more yards.
This video is old. Those cartridges either didn't exist, weren't as popular as they are now, or wouldnt perform any different than similar calibers already shown.
Maybe the 180 grain soft point in .350, I would suspect the extreme tip (a ballistic tip) wouldn't. But all the deer I've shot with the extreme tip either fell in their tracks or didn't go further than about 20 yards.
Neighbor: How do you you clear brush from your woods? Stihl? Jonsered? Husqvarna?
Me: Nope, .30-30 Henry. 😂
Neighbor: Eric, can you help me cut a tree in my yard?
Eric: sure, I’ll bring my chainsaw. (Picks up his 50 cal)
I prefer 12ga #4 shot
Im just saying Stihl is the best bet out of the three.
My preferences are 30-06 and Jonsered
@@danielaramburo7648 dumps mag into tree. Proceeds to load another magazine😂
"I'm just gonna poke one through the bushes." Best line of this whole video.
@Andre McGoo He is grown up, that's why it's funny.
Should be easy to see with all that bush around it
I love how the 600 grain bullet nearly knocked the target over, that was awesome :-P
Great video. I appreciate the 30-06 making an appearance because I had a feeling it would be able to tag the target with a heavier projectile. The 30-06 is so versatile and it's my favorite caliber :)
It’s not surprising. 30-30 and 7.62x39 are such close performers, that I consider them a pick-em.
I once shot a t-rex through a redwood with my 30-30
mike Webster, did you make it mad or did it even notice? Lol
Same man
I killed one thru a 12 ft wide redwood with my bb gun
Pffft. I once shot a t-rex through two other t-rexes with a .22LR. It tore them to shreds. I was cleaning up that damned white nylon stuffing for weeks afterward. 'Effin beany babies....
None of you can out do me this morning I shot a t rex and a creature 100 feet tall that looked suspiciously like Godzilla with my nerf gun by putting needles in the end of both darts
Thanks for including the 7.62x39 and the .30-30 awsomeness
I got a Winchester Model 94 in 30 30. It’s my brush gun, and I love it. This video just solidified the round’s abilities despite the tumble/disintegration, it hit a big chunk of brush, most bullets would do the same.
id like to see a 180 grain 357 magnum from a carbine/rifle. I know its not the most powerful but in some states alot of people hunt with them.
most people dont realize that due to advances in Propellant technology the modern .357 magnum delivers similar foot pounds of energy on target as a .44 magnum from the 70's
main reason i want a L5 Desert Eagle in .357 also so i dont have to deal with cylinder gap and lost preasure...
@@happyjohn354 .357 is another highly underrated caliber. It's an excellent man-stopper in a pistol and a good hunting round in a rifle. A lever-action .357 wouldn't be a bad choice for home defense, either.
@@thatguy22441 longer barrel never hurts when it comes to muzzle velocity...
@@happyjohn354 I have a stainless Rossi lever action in .357 and with its 20” barrel the 180 gr cartridge is an excellent hunting round
I keep coming back to this series of brush gun videos over the years because of all the downright useful, pragmatic and timeless information presented. Thank you!
BTW, I think a 600 grain slug tickin' along at 1,100 ft per second is packing kinetic energy in the neighborhood of 1,600 ft-lbs. WOW!
I'm thinking elephant gun.
I still think 30-30 is the best out of all the others on this list, lol.
Also, you should do a part 3. Many of us would love to see .300 Win Mag
I love my Marlin 30-30. I've had mine since I bought it used in 1997. I've killed deer in thickets and out to 200yds on a powerline. To me you can't go wrong with a 30-30.
I know alot of people hate on 30-30 but I love mine as well and it don't get no better in my opinion, plenty of knock down power and it don't kill your shoulder either, I mean I also love my 45-70 but it is just hard to beat a good marlin 336 30-30.
As far as I am personally concerned, this video and Part 1 provide some of the most actually useful tests and information in the TH-cam shooting video world. I appreciate your picture-in-picture closeup, video and audio quality, your efforts to make your tests fair and realistic, and mostly your intelligent, but down-to-earth narration. A lot of these TH-cam guys provide good information, but listening to them talk is an absolute beatdown. I know this video is almost five years old, but thanks for posting it.
Thanks for doing the 44 mag .
Where I live we do a lot of muzzle loader hunting in the brush. It would be interesting to see how they react. Traditional, vs Inline vs flintlock or some more black powder rifle testing in general. Just a thought I really enjoy watching yalls videos,
Can you do a part 3? Using .25-35 win, .30-30 win (again), .32 win spl, .450 BM, and .375 h&h
What about a 338 win mag that would be interesting cuz you can go down to about a 180 grain all the way up to 300 grain
@@eanonmcmickle2162 I shot a deer with a Hornady .44mag 300gr bullet at 35-40yrd and dropped it in its tracks. When I went to skin it, the bullet and a large chunk of shoulder bone from the opposite side shoulder, literately fell out onto the ground. It was just under the skin on the back side of the deer. I was amazed at the size of bone fragment that fell out. Needless to say that gun (Marlin model 1894 Cowboy Limited) has been my trusted deer gun for hunting in the hills of Arkansas for decades. No issues with brush with this gun and we've got plenty of brush. The .44mag has always done what I needed it to do.
35 Remington still with me in the woods today. Love it
72 caliber musket, 10 gauge, 357 magnum, 450 bushmaster, 338 lapua, 50 ae
When love to see the 450 bushmaster and the Henry all weather 357
Agree 357 magnum 180-200 grain load from a rifle.
Loved that 577 at the end. Pure smackdown at 50yards. Keep up the great works lads!
Cheers, ASC.
My Marlin 336W chambered in .30-30 winchester is my brush gun :)
Good gun for the price?
@@CheetahBigKitty absolutely - a tried & true classic for several decades
Thank you...I learned to hunt in Montana where you have 300+ yards to contend with to hit a target and am now learning to hunt a completely different style in thick briars of FL/GA swamps at 50 yards....typically I run 180 gr with my 300win mag, but this helped me understand the need to move to a flat tip with 220 gr. Greatly appreciate the video
The Lord directed me to purchasing my only two guns recently, a Winchester M70 Sporter in .30-06 with a Leupold Rifleman 3-9 on it, as well as a beautifil color case hardened Henry Big Boy in .44 Mag. I was so grateful to see these two rounds in this video, and your work here makes it clear that the combination I landed is as close to perfect for deer hunting overall as possible. The .30-06 is so versatile and gives me long distance ability, and the .44 Mag takes care of shorter range, in the brush as well as a quicker to target defense against big game, or any potential attack. Bless you for making these videos brother. ~ John 8:51.
30-30 is one of my favorite calibers......I probably only have about 2000 favorites though.
My favorite is the medicine stick
That's my favorite game, thank you
Real couriers use Varmints
Etunimi Sukunimi all decked out with nv, extended mags and silencer
Taco Irvin now I wanna play nv
Fully upgraded cowboy repeater with jsp handloads never lets me down against soft targets
30-30 cleared the brush for the 30-06 ;) ;p
444 Marlin > 44 mag and 30-30. You're too good to your viewers man!
That is the coolest Mark 77 I have ever seen! Not only is it chambered in something that I never knew they were chambered in but also the stock on that thing is awesome.
Got a duplicate of that M77, most calibers with that stock had plastic inlay pieces in colors - the wood makes it nicer.
It feels like more gun than you need for the cartridge, can't imagine the overkill of the same basic type in .22LR as used in the first Brush Gun video.
(Yeah, target ones are even heavier for .22's - different purpose)
Roger Voss yeah I've seen the basic ones with the plastic but never the wood. I love the look with the wood.
Yeah, in Stainless with that stock it caught my eye - the wood panels make it. When I found out it matched the Caliber popular & cheap at the time (had picked up SKS/MAK90) I just had to have it. Didn't think I'd come across another without a search, and that expanded the 7.62x39 shooting to include reloading for it.
30 30, 35, 444, and 7.62x39 are the most popular in my area. It is something to see a boar or large buck that close, what a rush!
I shot a Sasquatch here in Hawaii through the Australian tree ferns (Hapuu) with my 45/70 and the dam thing laughed at me got up and said Aloha.
I'm sure a 45/70 is plenty to drop a booger. I carry a .458 just for that particular reason.
He no go eh.
U were trippin lol
@Big Al
LoL...you picked the only state in the 50 US states, that Sasquatch hasn't been seen in.
Dude....You tooo!!! I thought I was the only guy who heard a Sasquatch talk. Damn, I guess I got nothing to brag about. LOL
This old series is a great one! Gives me even more confidence in my 2 fav brush guns: my 35 Rem (Marlin) and my Mossberg 695 12 gauge!
I'll be taking my Remington Model 14 Carbine in .35 Remington on my evening hunts. Perfect old gun for hiking through dense woods.
You should do the same vid with large caliber pistols. Show the effectiveness for protection against potential predators while in the backcountry.
cgammans great idea
Like a .460
GREAT follow up on the first video! Honestly I'm not surprised that the 7.62x39 soft point deflected. As for the 30-30, that was a thick green branch so no wonder! Still a 30-30 fan and a 7.62x39mm fan. The AK round was designed for humans not branches-I don't feel terrible for saying the truth. ;-)
Your two brush gun videos together are excellent. They perfectly illustrate the points being made.
THANK YOU SO MUCH for this video.
I have a 12g coachgun, and Im dreaming of getting a .44mag marlin lever action asap.
Your first video on this topic really opened my eyes to the effects of brush on bullets.
I live in an area of Europe that has tons of forest by me, and not just amazingly delicious looking game in it, but it has a very real chance of my back yard and surrounding area becoming my hideout/ survival spot should SHTF.
Since I see my skill sets as being little more than Irregular militia/partisan fighter with very little chance of acquiring modern "military style" hardware without raising some serious eyebrows I have been looking into deer gear for potential resistance purposes.
I think I'll be choosing the 12g slugs for hunting,
the .44mag for skirmishing/ambushing
and the buckshot for patrolling.
Thank you so much for your shining example of how to be an ethical hunter, and an effective protector of family, home and "fatherland"
Unless you plan on getting a 44mag revolver as well I'd go with a 30-30 or 45-70 lever gun just for the extra range, power, and availability imo. 44mag is great tho especially if you have a pistol with it
@@jordanwiser4192 I, and my collection, have come a long way in 5 years, quite amazing actually...
Thanks for the reply though :)
You guys should try those new 460 sw and 500 sw brushguns.
Andrew Schwab; yea but have u seen the price on that Big Horn 500 mag rifle....puh-leazze
Bilge Pump I'm not saying everyone can get it but still he has an origin 12, so you wanna repeat that statement of the price.
I'd rather vote my wallet for a company that hates me less.
Bilge Pump I want one so bad but am not feeling that price tag what so ever, I remember H&R made a handi rifle in .500 and was recently looking into one as a substitute but apparently was discontinued
Austin Frey I wanted to get that handirifle but they were sadly discontinued. I would have picked up a few more barrels also
Just wanted to drop a note to say, Well Done! Excellent. I always thought it to be a 100% myth. After watching the first one my mind went immediately to the 220 30-06 round. Glad to see it included and how well it performed. Thanks for the quality of your vids.
beyond a doubt these brush gun videos are the best ones you've ever done in my opinion. oh and that Martini smacked that Target like it was a Red headed step child!
Git to love the good old 3006 spring it's a time tested and true good all around caliber imho it's probably the best all around round
Shane Rhodes I prefer .270 winchester... it can be loaded really light for fox or groundhogs and heavy for anything you can think of
Bill Dixon oh yea there are some many good calibers it's up to the individual as to what they like I think I just have ways had a love for the 3006 and it will never leave me I'm a 30 Cal guy and I just can't stay away. But I hear ya
Bill Dixon .243 can too
I shoot that exact model 4. My dad handed it down to me for my 21st bday because I always hunted with it anyway. Never missed a deer with it in 30 years of hunting. Phenomenal gun. Love love love the 30.06.
30-06 is good for all North American big game. Awesome versitile round.
Man these videos are the best please keep on doing them with a bunch more of different crazy calibers
I really like your videos, there is an honesty about your character that I trust. Fun and informative.
I absolutely love my 30-30!! It's really probably because it's the 1st gun ever bought for me when I was 12. And where I hunt in Missouri I haven't felt the need for anything else. I have only missed one deer with my 30-30 ever! And it's all due to the same results in this video. Where I'm hunting now with "Primitive" weapons I have a 45-70 break-action. I use it all year now because I don't have access to where I used to hunt and it's REALLY thick.
The 30 30 chopped down a huge limb and missed one the 762x39 went through a spider Web and missed one so that's not really the same.
Tg
30-30 and 7.62x39 pit up almost identical performance numbers on paper it's no surprise that they would perform similarly how can you say the 7.62 that missed didnt hit something solid that he didnt see its 15yards of brush
except 30-30 has more energy
Yeah the 7.62 didn't hit a large branch
I prefer 30-30 to 7.62x39, simply because I'm not an AK fan, and I love lever guns. I know it's a very popular caliber, and I'm glad your caliber was featured. I think the 40-series of calibers would be one of my favorites, as in 44 Magnum, 45-70, and I really want to get a 444 Marlin.
This might be my favorite youtube video of all time....you guys are legends
I’ve been watching these brush gun videos all night and this guys is by far the most accurate in terms of how one of these situations of brush hunting would go everyone else fixed the “brush” to a stationary plane so it had no give. Best brush gun videos by far.
Great video bud! I enjoyed watching the big old slugs their work! My favorites are the 525 grain lead cast flat points in my 45-70, and the 220 in my 30-06, Tried-tested- and true!
Another great video. Good demonstration of various cartridges - very impressed with the 577-450 Martini. Great demonstration of heavy weight 30-06, 30-30 and 12 gauge slug and 00 buckshot. Thanks for providing.
My friend, if your time and resources allow, test the 190 grain Buffalo Bore 30-30 round through the brush. It is a heavy for caliber bullet and is fabulous fabulous fabulous in durability, fps, and raw energy. Never again will the 30-30 be snubbed. Much appreciation for your fabulous video.
@The American Patriot If it's a lead bullet it will never wear out a barrel. Throat erosion is what you have to be concerned with, not barrel wear!
I don’t know why, but this video, and part 1, are among the most interesting you’ve ever made.
I'd love to see how a 20" Henry Steel in .357 would do.
@Andre McGoo Because I have a .357 revolver and have been considering getting a .357 lever action.
Awsome eric
Thanks you so much for the 30-30 and the slug test
Keep up the good work
Good subject! In addition to the caliber, I believe part of the definition to be considered a brush gun needs to be that the gun itself is easy to maneuver in the thick. Basically short and handy. I am using a 16" 450 Bushmaster AR for this. I would like to see 450 Bush in the mix - I am sure the results would be no surprise.
I know this is late to the party but thought I would comment for future viewers. Great channel, lots of information. For this video, I think folks should concentrate on the- "this is not very scientific" comment. I'm a firm believer in the camp that bullets move when they hit things. The farther that hit is from the terminal, the more the deviation, be it keyhole or whatever. Years ago, I repeatedly missed a deer 70 yards from me. The third shot I just barely got a piece of hair off it. Half hour later I hit a porcupine at the same distance. I was in a creek bed shooting into a field. Very light branches in front of me. I didn't see them in the scope. I hit three different small branches five yards from the muzzle, and clear path to target. Firearm- 30-30 win, 170 grain RN. All of the branches were under 3/16" diameter. Moved impact 20 inches or so at that distance. So for me, there are no "brush guns", just ballistics.
The 30-06 has honestly gotta be one of the most versatile rounds ever made. When i was a kid my dad asked me what kind of deer rifle i wanted and he bought me a savage 110 in 30-06. It's got great long range abilities and the versatility in loads just make it adaptable for almost anything.
I love this series! We need a part 3.
30-30 hit a thick branch... and you came to that conclusion? Cmon.
Pathof Phobos right? There's no way any round is gonna hit solid branch and be okay
Same. 30-30 rocks and works in the brush. That hit was insane.
Yea, that was a pretty good size branch. I figure the other rounds would fair about the same against a limb that size.
A 50 WOULD DEVIATE OVER HITTING A BRANCH THAT THICK ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?!?!
Brad Yelich That is true. Not triggered, just seems that any bullet would veer if it hit something that thick. If it were shooting through bushes that's one test, but shooting thru branches is another. It was the only one to hit something that large so kinda got jipped.
Thank you for doing a pt 2. Way late to the party but just found it and still appreciate your time and work to do this.
Former 82nd Airborne. I must say I really l8ke your vids. I've learned so much.
When you are so early you deal with 360p
Feel you bro
Wifes reaction after 360 seconds
Mauser Man Hahaha!
I live in the middle of nowhere and usually dont get past 144p if I do only to 240p. If I do get past 240 I consider it a miracle
Good video. Thanks. I'm definitely going for the rossi model 92 16 inch barrel in 44 mag. I think the little Henry single shot in 45 70 would be excellent too. Its light, short, and handles a lot like the old Winchester lever. I like light and quick handling rifles. They've got some recoil but you pack a gun more than you shoot it and a gun is no good if it's not in your hands.
wow, i really enjoyed both these videos. Amazing work!
I've always enjoyed your videos and you make some awesome points in everyone. You mentioned that you really shouldn't take shots at things you can't really see and that alone makes watching this video worthwhile. Thanks for sharing!
I have the ultimate brush gun: Ruger 44mag semi auto carbine. It likes the heavier ammo. 240 grain at least.
Well congratufuckinlations.
I'm not too sure there are many rounds that would smack a thick piece of lumber like that 30-30 did and not deflect. I would like to see a much more controlled test, testing exactly that.
Gaelan Garrett The 30-30 failed and thats a fact.
tseawell90 and so would most that hit a tree limb of that size and that's a fact
Rubicon1776 Can you prove it? Because I didn't see that happen in the video.
tseawell90 I also didn't see any other round smack into a large limb like the 30-30.
Gaelan Garrett I agree. But the 30-30 did hit the tree limb and the results were very shocking. The cartridge failed! Plain and simple.
One of your five best videos! Thank you brother.
Thank you from a Canadian Veteran. Love your stuff
In my opinion, This set are two of the BEST videos you've done! Thank you SO much for your insight and experimental (even if not overly scientific) data. It confirms what a lot of people like me have always known, if only intuitively!
Great stuff!
Thank the Lord that 30-30 knocked that branch out of the way. lol
Lol.
First started deer hunting in nothern Michigan with a 870 wing master with slugs......
At 18 my uncle let me borrow his old Winchester 351. Fell in love with that gun down in the swamps. Bought one myself and was my go to when hunting in thick cover. Later on in life i bought a 35 Remington and now onw 2...…..Nothing gets away from these weapons.
I really like your videos. Very educational with realistic tests and explanations.
30-30 was the first rifle i took a deer with, loved it in high school
I wonder how my .357 Magnum lever action rifle would do?
In this case "science" is not the proper term, i would go with "practical knowledge" as it is practical to have and can be put into practice.
The fact that it is entertaining is a plus.
Science adjacent perhaps?
Did a good job of explaining the principles of a "brush gun" and calipers of grain and speed of rounds.
I think the 3030 was good . Any of those guns it they hit that branch would be off
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I watched 1 and 2. Well done Sir! Great experiment. Your explanation of a complicated physics problem was easy to understand. Something I won't forget, Thank you!
p.s. I had a dog in this fight, the .30-.30. Thanks again.
I feel like a modern caliber brush performance video is in order, as someone mentioned already .458 socom and other similar calibers would be interesting to see.
I bet you can suppress that Martini. It'd be an abomination to God, but I bet you could do it.
Just because you *can* doesn't mean you *should.*
delinquentJACK it's already sporterized so it wouldn't be that bad
I'm not one to tell anybody how they have to customize their guns, but I sure as hell wouldn't do it to a Martini-Henry if I had one.
To each their own though. Everyone likes a little different spice, and if it's someone's dream to have a suppressed Martini I wouldn't stop em. They'd enjoy the hell out of it and that's what it's all about.
I haven't really seen any info on suppressing black powder weapons. Obviously the fouling would be horrendous but would you get much dB reduction?
I bet it'd be pretty easy, for any skilled designer, to draw up a modern Martini-Henry type trapdoor that uses smokeless powder and that can be customized. Would love to see it
There's a VERY good reason the 30-06 and it's somewhat smaller brother the .308 have proven themselves over and over in combat and hunting aplications around the globe for many decades.
I have a Remington 7400 in 30-06, produced the same time as that Model Four in the video, except the stock on the 7400 is etched. Pretty much the only difference. And it’s a fantastic gun. Any bad reviews are mostly because people don’t know how to care for them. They like to be dry and clean. As long as it’s not oiled heavily it’ll be fine. It also really likes Remington Core Lokts so I tell anyone interested in this particular firearm to buy the Remington ammo. But it’s hard to beat a 30-06. It’s just a good round. And everyone who likes to point out all the fancy magnum rounds, I tell them to remember that the Boone and Crocket record brown bear was shot and killed with a 30-06. It’ll get the job done if you do your part. Enough said.
iDrive4fun93: Couldn’t agree more with you sir.....the hot magnum rounds are all the hype these days but someone who owns a .300 win mag, 7mm rem mag, .338 win mag, .375 h&h, etc probably only shoots that rifle maybe a handful of times a year at most, not to mention ammo is too damn expensive. The .30-06 can handle any large and dangerous North American game although I’m sure there are some who will disagree lol, and also happens to be the best all around hunting caliber ever in my opinion...definitely powerful enough and plenty versatile with a wide range of bullet weights for different game/applications, and being cost effective to shoot & practice with. The only time I can see some of those magnum calibers even being a viable option is for guys hunting stone sheep & mountain goats out west in the Rockies where they may have to make a 500-800yd shot and really need to reach out there, although shooting at that distance defeats the purpose of hunting for me anyways. 30-06 is king!
I agree the 30-06 is a great round and with the right grain bullet it can be very versatile. However, I will also say, that in my limited experience with that round, I found that at short distances, say 50yrds or less, it is so fast that the round can easily go through the deer with out delivering enough of its energy to drop the deer in its tracks. Sooo...after a few times of having to track down my game, I decided to use a different round for my application. I mostly hunt in the hills and hollers of Arkansas where there is most often thick brush and limited distance shooting (you can't see through the side of the mountain). I found that my Marlin model 1894 Cowboy Limited in .44cal is perfect. It has dropped every deer I've shot right in their tracks and I've not had any issues with brush deflection. The best part for me is not having to tramp around in the woods up and down the hills following blood trails. I will admit, I mainly use the Hornady 300gr XTPs but I've also used the Hornady 225gr FTX LeverEvolution rounds with great results.
Don't get me wrong, when I hunt in Oklahoma the 30-06 is a better choice of round. Longer distance, less brush and great energy on target. Although I feel it's a toss up between the 30-06 and my 270 short mag for those longer shots.
To me it looks like the 30/30 is best all around brush gun. Ammo available almost everywhere in my part of Georgia. Easy on the shoulders. It can cut through a tree branch and still go towards target. Nice video keep them coming.
Great job Eric. I just bought a Marlin 44 mag for pig work here in Oz. Tried out 240g Sellier Baggot ammo at the range with some buddies and we sited iin the iron sites with rear ghost ring. grouped fine at 50 yrards so we went for the steel chicken at 200 yards. I had three loads left. Put one to the right but correct height. so, we moved onto the hanging steel pig at 330 yards. I used my internal ballistic calculator which reckoned 4 pig heights at that distance. Put one projectile in the air and 'gong' and swing went the pig.
I left it at one for one and walked away with my new rifle. Love it.
330 yds, iron sight, new gun. I pretty much figure I need a plumb bob and a protracter over 200 with my .45-70. I salute you Sir! Especially in a country with such retarded gun laws. Our idiots (Canada) are trying to catch up.
Hey Eric. Thank you for going through this demo. Appreciate being able to evaluate these calibers through fairly thick brush. More centered than Part 1. Good job !! Love my Stagecoach shotgun !! Slugs...I think they are 1 1/4 oz are they not ?
Yeah I'm not gambling on if I'm gonna "hit" a deer shooting through brush. I'd rather know my bullet doesn't have a chance of being deflected.
Agreed
That why I like 10 Gauge #4 buck
The 30.06 round is also loved by game hunters in Alaska. It hits with enough force to take down a moose, literally. Side note, the same round was fired by two different rifles during WWII, the M1 Garand, as well as the B.A.R., and we all know the result of that, great punch through power when it comes to brush/vegetation. Also, thank you for the 30-30 demonstration.
And then there is the "King of the Deer and South Eastern Hog Thumpers" the .35 Remington. What gets thumped with the .35 Remington tends to stay thumped. And by the way, I own and hunt with .250-3000 Savage (NOT much of a brush gun but it will drop a deer at 150 to 200+ yards as long as the shooter does his or her part and he or she is shooting over pretty much open terrain), .308 Winchester, .30-30 Winchester, .444 Marlin, and 12gauge chambered long guns. Why the .35 Remington is so often overlooked by deer and hog hunters in brushy areas will remain a mystery to me. Great video as usual! Keep 'em comin'!
What about a .458 Socom, .50 Beowulf, .700 nitro, .950 JDJ (haha I know) .454 Casul
What about the 458 Socom?
That would do the trick for sure.
Emerson Jude Corpus .458 SOCOM is designed to mimic .45-70 govt. Should perform exactly like the .45-70 they used in part one (perfectly, definition of a brush gun).
Raymond Denno easy. The AK is more reliable when the shit hits the fan.
That's what I always thought, but there are ways where the ar is superior when it comes to reliability. InRangeTv did some mud testing and the ak didn't do very well. Great platform, but not quite the magical firearm that some have made it out to be.
Colson Customs I've seen AKs buried, rusted shut, filled with sand and then fired with no issues. They are incredibly reliable. The AR is a better gun, but due to its design it's less reliable when it gets dirty. You can't always clean your weapon in a combat situation and that is why the AK is better
Eric, @ the 7.62×39 segment; The beauty of having that round, In lever action, is That 2nd ( and if you are a bad shot, 3rd) almost semi- automatic shot to follow up. Again, if necessary! I've seen ground squirrels turned inside-out with V-max bullets in that calibre @ 300-ish yards! (Approximately 300 meters)
Not overly scientific, but enough shooting to prove a basic point. I can’t imagine a more enjoyable way to spend an afternoon. Good video.
30-06 for the win
That (and cost of changing) is why us Finns still use 7.62x39 in the military
Thanks for the follow up.
As you probably know you can reload your 30-30 cartridges with hard cast lead gas checked bullets of 180 grains and up to 200 grains and still have impressive velocities. And of course the 30-30 has taken all big game in North America-again and again and again!
In the 1930s Col. Wesson took a Grizzly at 100 yards with his Smith and Wesson pistol in .357!
30-30 and .357 are not to be ignored! And .357 out of a rifle with good sights is a good perimeter gun out past 500 yards!
JWC
There is zero reason in the 21st century to be using .357 magnum past 100 yards unless it’s all you have and literally cannot afford anything else.
Pt.2 is just as awesome as Pt.1 Awesome stuff...Thanks
WHAT --- NO CANNON !!!! :-)
OLD WIPPER-SNAPPER I expected that for the 'surprise'
Me too.
that is one sexy henry in 30/30
M Johansson i’m getting that gun next week
M Johansson i just got a Henry Golden boy 30-30 2 days ago
Great test. You covered my favorites....44 & 30-30.
one of my favourite reviews, thank you