2016 Cadillac ATS-V Review - Baby Aston Martin?
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- 2016 Cadillac ATS-V Review. The 2016 Cadillac ATS-V sets its ambitions high to take down the BMW M3, Mercedes AMG C63, and Lexus RC-F. The ATS-V features a 3.6L twin turbo producing 464 horsepower and 445 lb-ft of torque.
There are two transmission options, a 6 speed manual with downshift rev-matching and no lift shifting, and an 8 speed automatic unit, the same gearbox out of the Corvette Stingray. Performance elements include high capacity cooling all around, including a rear diff cooler totaling six water and oil coolers, launch control, Brembo brakes, magnetic ride suspension, an electronic limited slip diff, a carbon fiber hood with an air extractor reducing drag and lift, quad exhaust tips and one of my favorite features, the Performance Data Recorder. PDR is something I’d be happy for every sports car to come with.
MSRP As Tested: $75,775.00
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1:20 Either that is an optical illusion, you rewound the video for that scene, or the water is going up.
+SlipknotMaggot0526 I'm glad everyone it taking away what's important from the video. ;) Shot was reversed, but hey, makes for great conversation.
+Engineering Explained That's what is important to me since I can't buy this car any... lol
yeah I was like wtf is this
+Engineering Explained where exactly in Oregon was this filmed?
I was just about to say that exactly. Lol.
That reverse waterfall. 1:18
+ThatOldTaco Crazy things happen in Oregon in December!
Living 1/2 mile from the factory I get to see a ton of these. Glad to see some good cars coming from Lansing again!
Looking great. Caddy is stepping up its game for sure. Spinning in 3rd gear is interesting if its power or it might be just wet & cold tires. Learned a few things so thanks for the review.
DoctaM3 it's a Cadillac. Just like a Porsche There's no need for those unneeded compliments haha. Owning These were literally like owning a Rolls Royce back in the days. So...
Thanks for touching on some aspects of the car that others have not. 27mpg is music to my ears looking for a hot rod daily driver.
I have this in the sedan and it's awesome
Just finished rebuild of a slightly crashed 2017 ATS-V! Love this machine!!
Awesome man. My dad got the sedan with the 6 speed back in November. He also got the PDR and got the Recaro seats and carbon fiber package. Looks gorgeous in vector blue with the black tints from the carbon fiber and red calipers.
Very well done review! I think you do an extremely thorough review. And you seem to be very fair about what's actually a problem and what might just be your preference. I always enjoy watching these because you do your research. I wish I could do what you do. But, well done!
Great video. Thank you for your work. I always enjoy the learning experience.
funny I just got a notification on my phone and I figured it's probably another Engineering explained video.....lol I really do enjoy your videos thank you.
Oregon is a beautiful place judging by the scenery you were driving through, I must get there one day.
+tobortine Highway to Multnomah Falls, just outside Portland
+tobortine Arcadia Bay ftw! :P
Liking this video because I grew up right where you filmed this.
Love that old highway and all the waterfalls along that route !!
I always love your reviews very true as always!!!
that gauge cluster leaves alot to be desired. other than the LCD screen it looks straight out of the 90s. how could they over look that?
+thenightlifenj1 I love it because of that. Brings back a lot of good memories. Kinda makes me nostalgic. Plus, I love how simple and clear it is, not like the digital clustefucks of today.
thenightlifenj1 as an owner of an ATS, the guage cluster DURING THE DAY is definitely one of the let Downs. Come night time though, and the led back light +blue halos really look sharp. The only problem I have with the V is the blue halos become ugly red, and look like acura guages
I am an ATS owner and I agree, the guage cluster isn't pretty. Maybe Cadillac though you'd keep your eyes on the road. And to argue the point I absolutely hate blue and white in any guage cluster, I had pure red in my previous car, left the guages up on brightness and never had a problem with it. Now that I have the blue and white I have it set very dimly and my eyes still become bothered by the blue and white light while driving. Doesn't scream comfort and luxury to me.
It's crazy that a V6 would have that much power!
why? gtrs are v6 and similar displacement and have 600hp (nismo)
+Tekky B Nerdy Nay Also F1s cars are v6
+Tekky B Nerdy Nay twin turbo dude
+wet ok bad example, but ats-v's competition have similar or more power(m3 3.0 tt straight 6, c63amg 4.0 tt v8, new audi rs4 will probably get 3.0 tt v6) but op probably thought that v6 is NA ! PS: not bashing on ats-v i think that power is still impressive, although I don't like design that much)
kingdragon702 Yes twin turbo! It is still nice to see that much power straight off the lot! Lol
Playing in my playground. Although that road is very narrow (scary) in spots. Love the reviews. Last week with the cold dry weather would have been better.
thanks for the review. you speak really well and are clear in your speech. plus you know what heck you are talking about! peace
Awesome Car !! I have a 2015 ATS... but I want this ATS-V
I feel that automakers should standardize the "+" and "-" on their gear levers. Some companies have "+" forward and "-" backwards, while others vice versa.
Personally, I prefer having "+" backwards and "-" forward because I feel that it resembles that of true sequential shifters in race cars.
+Nick Amarit on motorcycles a street pattern is reverse of a race pattern.
+Car Geeks Anonymous For me, I see motorcycle shifting as up/down (vertical) while for cars, either sequential or manumatic, I see them as shifting forward/back (horizontal). So I personally don't compare between motorcycles and cars, but I can see where you are coming from.
When you consider H-patterns on a manual, the idea of which direction an upshift or downshift should be gets even more convoluted, because the direction is basically nullified as an issue of contention. I do like a right up pull and left down pull on paddles though.
Car Geeks Anonymous H-patterns are pretty much a beautiful thing of their own (especially 6-speed H-patterns because they just feel right - 4 and 5 are a bit too lacking while 7 and 8 are just a tad too many). :)
However, flappy paddles with right-up, left-down are definitely one huge step at standardizing sequential or manumatic shifters in my opinion.
I especially did not appreciate when automakers used to put up/down toggles on both sides of the steering wheel. My dad''s 2000 Audi A6 had the up/down toggles on both sides of the wheel and it was downright confusing to use (especially because the toggles are relatively small in size).
+Nick Amarit As long as the right paddle is upshift and left is down, doesn't matter to me.
Awesome review, good job!
Fancy seeing you here...
@Engineering how do you compare this with the current refreshed 2017-18 ATS-V versus BMW's M3 ?
Dang everyone is focusing on the waterfall haha! I didn't even notice it until I read the comments. I watched the whole video and it was definitely entertaining as always. :)
it's not artificial on the steering,it's the sensors reading the road thousands of time a second and is reacting! The manual shift response might have to do with what mode you have it in other wise it's default is to shift slower for fuel economy and so you don't get into trouble in city traffic! Just my opinion and the little facts I know. Great review. always like your reviews over other channels
yeah from 1:20 - 1:30 mark on this video, the waterfall is in reverse. I think it was shot at the car first then transitioned towards the waterfall for an effect. great review on this beast btw.
Dude the Cadillac Que system is not meant to be "push button operation", it is designed for you to swipe without having to keep on the dash and not taking your eye off the road. I'm thinking that the designers were thinking of movement within the cabin as you are driving, so the interface of the panel requires a swiping motion for activation.....just saying
Just use climate control. Set it at say 72 degrees, and put the system on "auto". It is like complaining the headlight switch iS on the stick. I have not owned a car where i put headlights on since 1996. My older cadillac turns the wipers on in rain, and i have not touched the hvac buttons much. I LOVE my ATS.
Jason you need to move to Southern California to have good weather for all your car reviews!
The Cadillac CUE system is NOT complicated to use.
Gotta love the road between Crown Point and Multnomah Falls.
How are you? Can you do a video explaining the difference and what they do for oil air separator and oil catch cans and which is better?
good review,1440p is nice
Is the car that extremely low profile were you have to slow down and angle up onto driveways and entrances to parking lots?
Great job, your reviews never disappoint. Have you ever thought of reviewing older cars? Like 1990-2010. I just feel like a lot of your viewers like myself are young (and broke) so we cant exactly go drop 5 figures on a new vehicle so reviews on older cars could be helpful.
Thought about yes, but reviewing newer cars reduces risk significantly on my end. I have to make sure the vehicles I drive are insured (manufacturers take care of this) so that I don't tank if something were to go wrong. I'm always looking to minimize risk.
+Engineering Explained Aaaw i hear you, keep up the good work
I have to say the roads you drive on remind me of the West of Scotland. The rain helps too. :-)
Im wondering how differant the tt3.6 is from the regular base 3.6 engine?
The internals are completely different.
Don't know if it's been pointed out yet, but the 8L90 8-speed is not a ZF unit like the Aston. It's GM's own design. Otherwise a very agreeable review.
Correct, ATS has it's own design, and I mentioned the ZF does better at low throttle shifts.
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The car information is stellar, but it would be cool if you looked into the diesel Colorado, Titan Xd, and so on... The turbo on the "kind of new" five liter cummins is video worthy on its own.
Are there any long term tests on this vehicle. I would like to know how well that turbocharged engine hold up.
Are the tires on this car summer only michelin pilot ps4s ?
I love this car but I really hate the IP. Why is the tach on the left and looks so cheap?. If it had the cts v's digital IP then it will be golden.
+Mark Speed6 True.
we're getting one soon on our lot. can't wait to take it for a spin. hopefully it's dry.
How did you get that good MPG... I have the regular V6 ATS, and I got 18MPG…
Can you get your hands on a CTS Vsport or a 12-14 ISF for a good walkaround review?
So nice of them to still offer a manual transmission.
Maybe the next possible choice over the brz sti..?
With Celsius we don't have to scroll around that much \o/ =D Anyway, why some planetary transmission has longer/shorter and/or smoother shift than others? Basic design; actuators; sensors and computer; or manufacturing tolerances?
water is flowing upwards at 1:25
+Ahmad the shot was reversed it's not that complicated.
GabrielKissack I know dude! It's just funny :)
How do you calculate the fuel economy numbers? I'm trying to gauge my fuel economy in a 2008 Jetta S and the way I calculate I can only ever manage 21 mpg out of a 2.5, even when I'm deliberately keeping acceleration and revs as low as possible? The rather rudimentary method I use it resetting the trip computer at each fill up, and taking note of the gallons it took to fill the tank, and dividing the miles traveled on the trip computer by the gallons to full. In theory it seems like it should work, but the numbers feel off.
+Jackisaboss1208 I used to do this too when I bought a new car. I tracked the mileage on a spreadsheet and was working out all kinds of interesting trends for fun.
My conspiracy theorist's brain concludes that you are not actually getting as much fuel as the pump tells you!
If you and we may be getting ripped off by the retailers. I mean, how do we verify exactly how much fuel we get when we pump it into a closed tank ?
Pay no attention to the window sticker.
you've reversed gravity! A+
I live in Eugene, Oregon and it's rediculous how much it rains here haha
What data recorder thingy are you using at 10:14? Is it part of the car or can I buy something like this?
Performance Data Recorder, it's a GM option for select vehicles.
Engineering Explained Aw ok. Here I thought I could buy something like that to add to my own car. Thanks for your reply! :)
Is there a program to make the 0-60 videos at the end? Showing the amount of gas/brake applied, speed, g-meter, etc? Or was that something in the caddy you were recording?
+Anthony G That's the performance data recorder, I mention it briefly at the beginning of the video when talking about the performance aspects.
I have NOT experienced the straight line steering feedback mentioned on my 2016 ATS
what is the magnetic ride control
you mastered the water bending technique.
+jordan rodriguez M Night Shyamalan taught me to search within myself.
nice styling, I think Cadillac is starting to understand style as they once did.
you should come drive epic cars in California, cause we need rain here!
+Anthony Saikaly Haha I'd love to have LA weather for my reviews.
+Engineering Explained I can't find any epic roads in la like you have in Oregon
I got to drive both the ATS-V and the CTS-V at COTA. This is a great car.
Personally I think it is more attractive than the Aston.
CncObsession which did you like better, the atsv or the ctsv, as whole car to own?
I like the manual in the atsv, but am not a fan of the guages. The ctsv looks sooooooo bad ass, and is much more luxurious on the inside, but no manual :(. Which one did you like better?
I know it's random, but if you can get your hands a 2nd gen Lexus IS-F, it would be amazing to see a detailed review on that car because it has lots of great technology that I know you can help explain well.
Nice car, but it sounds like it has a bad aircon system if you have to fiddle with it when you are driving. Doesn't it keep its set temp in the cabine?
+iGMAS Well sure, you can put it on auto I suppose. I just like systems that you can quickly adjust.
+Engineering Explained I just put mine at 21C and leave it there all year long, it´s cold enough in the summer and almost to warm in the winter. Only buttons I use are Defrost.
What happened to the integrea
nice background
I really like the idea of this car. Just not sure I'm a Cadillac guy.
Great review! By the way what camera did you use to record the outside shots?
+Afonso Silva Thanks! Sony AX100.
Where is the fun/technique in a manual that rev matches and allows you to no lift shift?
+Some Guys On XBL You can turn it off if you don't wish to use it. Nothing wrong with options. :)
The boost is almost instantly it's very little lag. I have one and I have seen 18 lbs of boost on mine before brother!
Did you put the mode on Wet traction?
+NihselAuto I did when I used launch control - 7.2 seconds haha.
I can't stop wandering about the summer tires issue. I live in central Europe where basically everyone switches to winter tires during winter months and in some countries it is even compulsory. How do you deal with this issue in Oregon? I am not surprised that in California or Florida all season tires are the norm, but I would think in Oregon or New England winter tires should be standard during cold months. All the best in 2016 and keep up the good work!
+Krzysztof Cichy I switch to winter tires with my personal car here in Oregon. This is a press car that travels all over the US, so it keeps the tires that it comes from the factory with.
Beautiful Caddy. My Dad has a 2011 CTS Coup, its a pretty nice car over all but the transmission is kind of goofy. However, that car has a look and style like no other American car or even EU or Japan offer. The ATS looks good but is not as unique as the older CTS's look. Kind of a shame in my opinion.
PS.... If you take that Caddy for a test drive in Portland you might get the impression that its not built well...like the fenders are falling off the car or it doesn't drive true. Don't worry though, the cars fine. Its just our local gov hasn't repaired the roads since 1987 and now we need $1+ Billion to fix them. Maybe we'll get the money from the 35k people moving here every year. Thats right I forgot, the city needs that money for art programs and other programs like the ones that help the homeless remain homeless.
What road is this? Looks like a great drive!
You didn't sit in the back seat for reference. I have some tall family members, so I always appreciated that part of your review. Do you have any input for the back seats?
+h3i1ig Your tall family members won't be sitting back there. The short ones may struggle as well - tends to be the case with most two doors, for better or worse.
That's a beautiful ass camera you're using.
That 0-60 looked like a ton of fun, seemed to keep it pretty straight.
I take it it's not to twitchy with wheel slip?
Oh and waterfall, I don't want to be left out.
+Rangifulla It was a bit twitchy, at times a little sketch to keep it straight. It really wanted to spin no matter what speed you're at haha. I found the traction control seemed to be more aggressive when you were turning, less in a straight line, making it interfere less when you're just trying to accelerate. That's actually a lot of fun when it's dry, and how I'd prefer it, but in the wet it wasn't super confidence inspiring. That said, it's silly to expect exceptional performance out of tires that are designed for much higher temps (and obviously dry roads would be nice).
GM fix the terrible Que infotainment system, update the look of the instrumentation and get rid of the piano black finger print magnet finishes and these things will fly off the show room floors. Thanks for the 1440p quality uploads
Reminds me of a modern day Regal T-Type.
How much is the 2016 ATS... Now
I am waiting 2 years before getting me one lol. hopefully by then I will have enough saved :)
Rudy Bravo by then you can get it for low to mid 40k
Fair review but those seats are amazing and better than the standard seats. I think you need more time adjusting them. They are sweet! Also the who uses a scroll wheel wheel but mostly sub 30K cars...most have buttons. Still that is your opinion and not out of sort. Only other thing is this car is not heavy by any measure....any.
looks like a red g35 coupe in the thumbnail
Why was that waterfall flowing up? Does the ATS - V also cause the laws of physics to break?
That waterfall looks like it's flowing uphill. Interesting.
Please don't take this negatively. This is a great video and I enjoyed the whole thing. But, 0-60 times just aren't relevant any more for performance cars. That test is traction limited. Especially when the road is wet and cold. 60 - 130 is the real test because it takes out the traction factor. I'm sure you could find a "professional driver" on a "closed course" to do that for each future review.
Hey, its the gorge. I don't get on the east side often :(
have you considered doing a video with Mr. Regular?
I feel like you'd be a pretty cool team for a review or two.
Near opposite personalities but it could work
+David F +David F that's why I think it could work. Seeing Rcr with a straight man to play off, as well he gives an opposite review style, focusing on what the car "means" to people but often lacking the ability to list performance features and statistics in an engaging manner. Unlike E.E.
It's rumored that this car will be fitted with the LS7 engine. Then GM comes out and says "No it won't happen." Probably because there would be too many Caddy performance models.
It tells alot about the car if the Launch Control is the slowest way to Launch lol
A suprisingly good car.
The Camaro is built on the same platform.
The 2019 version in all forms is an excellent car.
what is downshift Rev matching and no lift shifting?
+Chris Mayer Increasing RPM's so when you put it in a lower gear, the engine doesn't have to catch up (Rev matching). no lift shifting I believe is when you keep your foot on the gas the entire time.
+thescoolestkyline okay I know what Rev matching is I just didn't know if there was something different since he found the need to mention it, for the no lift shifting, that sounds really cool but I feel like that would interfere really highly with downshifting, would it not?
+Chris Mayer No lift shifting would be for upshifting only. Rev-matching is automated, the driver can choose not to heel-toe and let the computer do the work for a perfect downshift.
+Engineering Explained I see, thank you!
+Chris Mayer No-lift upshifting means no need to lift off of the throttle during clutch disengagement, which means the turbo stays spooled without the computer cutting off the engine, for a quicker launch. It will hold it at redline, if I understand it right.
why is the water going up
+ThePinoyMamba I filmed this one in Australia.
Wait, you can actually accelerate from a standstill in 2. gear? The gearbox doesn't force you into 1. gear? That's actually amazing!
+celaCH1 It will automatically step down to 1st, but you can put it into 2nd. Won't allow skipping second, as I was thinking about a 3rd gear pull since even second spun very easily.
+Engineering Explained Alright, thanks for your quick response! :)
I didn't know there were AT which allow you to accelerate in 2. gear (from a standstill).
I must say I quite like those new cars from Cadillac.
lol Jeebus Chrism... 4.2 in wet conditions. That's silliness. I want to see it in dry, warm conditions. Those numbers have got to be even more silly.
don't like the gauges or the infotainment system other than that its an impressive vehicle.
5:06 thats where the weed goes
can we drive it in winter?
+Jerome Dostie Put some winter tires on and you're good to go! Just be careful with the throttle. :)
the rims looks like Acura TLX Shd-awd
I want to see an AMS Alpha ATS. This thing is ripe to compete against a GTR.
have you tested the Cts-v its a little heavier but has 200 more hp. also if you thinking of reviewing the new 6th gem camaro don't because you just did in this video. they both had the same drive train configurations and have the same chassis and suspension the only thing different is the body panels and interior.
+SvG_SWIFTr and engines
+Car Geeks Anonymous I would pit that in the drivetrain category. isn't it annoying that gm didn't use the zeta platform for the camaro. I mean it's supposed to be a long car but they have it using the same platform from their sport/touring division.
+SvG_SWIFTr *muscle car
All reports are that the smaller, lighter Alpha makes for a much better car, though the SS still gets a lot of love, if only no sales to make it worth keeping around.
lol... filmed in Australia that is why??? I got it..
Do you live in oregon now or just travel up for reviews? I thought you lived in colorado?
+caribeach2641 Haha I've only been to Colorado maybe once. :) Been in Oregon for over 3 years now.
Engineering Explained Haha alright! I have no idea where CO came from. I hope you're out there enjoying the snow in your subie today