This… has more meaning to it than I thought.. Die a hero, or live forever as a villain.. Tell the truth or sink within the lies.. Or even: Friends aren’t just hurt from someone else, but it’s because of YOU.
@@grimmsoul3096 But he's still a part of him. In the bad ending, there's still Sunny in OMORI, and not only physically. That scene represents Sunny surrendering to despair. He's still him, not some meat automaton.
Most people seem to think OMORI wants to hurt Sunny. I don't think that's the case. OMORI was created to protect Sunny from the truth. By remembering the truth, Sunny is threatening to hurt himself. So, OMORI decides that there's only one way to protect Sunny from himself- By making sure Sunny never hurts again. And the only way to do that... The only way to permanently end the pain... Is to end Sunny.
also cause in omoris mind (part of sunnys mind) that escaping pain is though death. its how you run from whenever basil or something tries to tell sunny though omori the truth
I like how the violin is constant throughout the entire song. Uninterrupted. Unchanging. Pushing through all the distortion, the awful thoughts, the memories replaying on loop getting louder and louder. Deafening. But the violin is still there.
It’s like the game’s telling us Sunny will persevere; no matter what Omori does or says, no matter how his friends react, no matter how he reacts, Sunny will keep going.
@@NoCryinRyan in white space, I believe it's one day left, the theme is steady. It's no longer 8-bit (fake), it no longer hesitates. It's likely symbolic that Sunny has decided, and depending on how that final day plays out, he will tell them or take the truth with him. It's clear now what he wants.
"Friends... Friends are supposed to be there for each other." "I hope that you'll be able to find some comfort... Or, y'know, happiness." "Last time... We made the mistake of leaving each other when we needed each other the most. This time... We'll stay together." "One day... Maybe things can go back to the way they were before." "You'll forgive yourself... Won't you... Sunny?"
"You killed Mari. She loved you, and you killed her." "Hero loved her, and you killed her." "Aubrey loved her, and you killed her." "Kel loved her, and you killed her." "Basil loved her, and you killed her." "You loved her, and you killed her." ... You know the rest.
@@frisolaxod3835 "You tell yourself that you don't want to burden others, but the truth is that you're selfish. You just don't want people to depend on you." - Omori
"When do you think about others? How long are you going to let people take care of you? You say you care but you're a liar. You've never done anything for anyone else. You're useless... less than useless... You're sick."
I just realized this fight might be the one of if not the only time you never get the "Welcome to White Space" card. Because you're not welcome there anymore.
The music really shows how much a murder can impact you. Even if SUNNY just had a fight with MARI and killed her by accident, he cannot deny that he actually murdered his own sister and he has to live with that guilt and depression for the rest of his life.
@@Lizsdrafts tbh, one of the most affecting parts of his talking for me, is that he only uses statements, no shouting or questions, he is just saying what you've done.
FOE FACTS! *OMORI* "Visibly looks just like me. It's true form is little more than a mass of hatred, shame, and fear. OMORI is a monster only I could create, so one only I could defeat." -SUNNY
A small detail that I loved through this fight is that Omori was created to protect Sunny. So throughout the fight, as Sunny slowly remembers and comes to terms, more of his traumas become clear behind Omori. Even as Omori is resorting to ending it all, trying to get Sunny to k/ll himself, Omori is still guarding Sunny from his fears. He stands in front of the Red Hands and HELLMARI and the other depictions of guilt and fear, trying to protect Sunny from seeing any of it. But it doesn't work, the facade of the White Space walls come crashing down, and Sunny is forced to face all of it--and when he stands up again, ready to play once more, he is actively choosing to LOOK AT IT. He purposefully chooses to look his trauma dead in the eyes and face The Truth. Omori failed his purpose.
That's it. It's what I like so much about the skills ''Something'' helped you obtain. He starts by calming down, focusing and releasing, getting ever so closer to facing reality head on with each new ability, and the animation of the skills reflect that with Sunny slowly facing forward until he finally opens his eyes and looks to the front with the last skill.
Ironic Omori was created to forget Mari's death, yet Omori represents the very guilt and self hatred Sunny has for himself for killing Mari. As long as Omori exists, the guilt will never disappear.
But there is the fact that Omori is not really gone, but you made peace with his existence... Only if you refused to succumb just like he did, otherwise...
The way is a famous TH-camr do a review or something like that. Here in Brazil , the game was nothing known. I played it and had no one to talk about the game since nobody knew what it was. Then a famous Brazilian youtuber called Goularte did a 1 hour and 40 minutes review . Now the game is very popular here . So if I were you I would hope it happens in the US or other country that you live in . (Sorry for my english , iam still learning ).
You are your worst enemy. Also love the fact that Omori doesn't say a word in the whole game and when he does he says the most vile and hurtful things in the whole game and acts like a an emotionless psychopathic savage.Which means that's how Sunny viewed himself as nothing than a fucked up murderer hence why he uses an instrument of violence as opposed to the other characters that use balls and bats and teapots and shit.Omocat really made the best game by far .AAA creators look like they smoke that goofy pack in comparison.Imagine trying to play a regural game after this visceral experience.This game broke me for sure.
i think you kinda missed the point a little chief. OMORI is not and never acts like a psychopathic murderer, he acts like those thoughs that people have when they are depressed. The things that he says are all thoughts most people with depression would think and that isn't just an inference, you can see it all over the internet. The point of this moment is for sunny to forgive himself and his demons. Why do you think they embrace at the end of the struggle?
This is what it sounds like, at least to me, this is what a peak in depression sounds like... mind sort of clings to a melody while being overloaded by negativity all around. Constant rushing noises and thoughts that go nowhere yet all bear a ton of weight for no reason, getting louder and louder until you can barely hear the melody anymore, all the while, you have a very clear list of lines going through your head telling you how much this is all your fault and you're the problem. Noise, pain, noise, Melody's back, noise overpowers it. Can't think straight, Can't calm down, Alone, sad, People are talking to me, they won't listen, they can't hear it, they can't understand. Noise. I dunno how many people can fathom what a mental breakdown can appear as, and I'm sure the vast majority of us haven't experienced what this kid has, nor do I wish anyone to do so... but god damn if this isn't a perfect video game boss fight representation of a breakdown, at least for me. Just... noise and chaos.
I can confirm that what Omori says is something you generally come down to. I wouldnt say depression could have 1 sound because the reason is different for everyone but i wouldnt say this is it
Can confirm. However, to me. The violin sounds hopeful, sad, yet it drones on. Its this almost sad determination, one thats quickly shouted, screeched and being overtaken by this fear, this panic, a harsh and painful noise, and its consuming. Its this overwhelming noise that makes you give up and break down.
@@TChunky and yet the violin still continues on, symbolising Sunny's determination throughout the fight, that no matter what omori says, he WILL not succumb
"Why must you take that cursed form? It is indeed strong and can protect you... but if you rely on it too often... What you will sacrifice can never be reclaimed."
Im going to believe that what was sacrificed was the time that Sunny spent in headspace. The time that should have been spent with his friends when it was needed most.
@@heatsflamesman5353 What the stranger is trying to say is that when Sunny disassociates from his problems, he "becomes" OMORI and lives out his own made up fantastics while ignoring the truth, neglecting everything that's real. If Sunny continues to embrace the unhealthy coping mechanism that is his alter-ego OMORI, then he'll completely lose who he really is, forever, and just become OMORI.
@@heatsflamesman5353 and that the stranger is talking about the hikiomori route. as if you rely on omori to escape the pain. you will lose the good ending.
Like genuinely I don’t know if it happens with anyone else, but the entire ending of this game was so heart wrenching it made me feel nauseous. This game has gotten a bigger emotional response out of me than anything else I’ve ever played in my life.
@@Sunny-lu9un that’s a common reaction if you get really emotional really quickly, your body and brain don’t know how to handle the sudden shift so instinct comes in and tries to get whatever caused it out
This song makes me feel as if _the game itself_ is the final boss - fighting against the face of the world you have created to shut yourself out, fighting against this silent protagonist going on big adventures while you yourself deteriorate.
@@sura2412 They literally got into an argument, Sunny tried to push past Mari to the stairs, she blocked his way. The gasp could easily be from when Mari saw the broken violin, the "Stop it" from Sunny trying to get past her.
4:50 a distorted scream. You can literally hear her cry the moment she fell. This lets me shiver every time. It might also be the sound of Sunny‘s violin shattering when he threw it down the stairs. Either way it’s terrifying.
Maris death in somewhat order? 4:17 The sound of when the violin hits the floor thudding and crashing down the stairs. 4:24 The argument between sunny and Mari begins, we can hear people talking. 4:40 "Stop it." Either sunny or Mari, probably when Mari grabs on to his shoulders. 4:49 Sunny pushes Mari. Her body coming down the stairs and eventually hitting the violin. 5:00 Sunny going down the stairs, Mari isn't moving. At this point he's probably trying to wake her up. 5:13 "COME ON" "Stop it" Still trying to wake up Mari. Telling her to get up. Thinking she'll get up at anytime. No response. 5:25 Sunny starts crying the realisation of what he's done. At this point basil comes out. I know that some people think that 4:52 is the violin, however the order I hear is: Maris scream > Body hitting the stairs > body crashes on top of the violin But that is just my interpretation! ^^ If there is anything else I could add or may seen incorrect please tell me! :)
wah....no...it sounds like raw emotion to me. That raw, aggressively loud sound of just this self hate and self abuse that just scratches at you, deep, painful cuts of pain....its this overpowering feeling of just all your hard work oh so painfully being stripped down to nothing
The cacophony of static and voices represents OMORI's self hatred and guilt over the years of avoiding the truth and the violin is the last spark of Sunny's will. It's the part of him that desperately wants to forgive himself. It's how Sunny was able to overcome Omori with the emotional support of his friends. I think it's really cool how the chaotic noise slowly enters the song, yet the violin never ceases to play and is never completely drowned out.
It's as though the depression plaguing sunny's mind is just as desperate as the last bit of fight left in him, trying so desperately to drown out the violin, even at point forcing him to relive the argument with mari, but ultimately failing. Sunny in that moment knows what he's fighting for, and the violin never being drowned out symbolizes how he will not forget. Not again.
@@spookytimejunction its not trying to drown out the violin tho the point is, its just there, it exists, and you have to bear with it and focus on the melody until it ceases
@@noobfart it absolutely is, you can hear as all the background noise gets more and more loud and distorted, you can hear that it's trying to drown the violin out but it can't. through all this chaos and horror in sunnys mind that violin is still there, telling him what's really important.
@@spookytimejunction hes just remembering even more and realizing how much of a selfish lazy person he is which intensifies the guilt and pain (the noises) the whole fight is a downward spiraling mental breakdown and the only thing he has to cling to is the belief that his friends wont hate him as much as he thinks they will, because the moments he spent together with them were very much real i dont think that many people can handle it as well as sunny did in the good ending, especially at such a young age with the belief that he always had zero value. thats why you can lose in 3 different ways at many points in the game
@@noobfart you're disregarding the fact omori's even considered a seperate entity in sunny's mind. yes it's true he's fighting through grief and pain, but my point is that omori is trying to smother that hope out and the music conveys this. omori's job and entire point of existing is to "protect" sunny from himself. it's not solely sunnys battle trying to face his guilt and pain but it's him trying to get through the barrier that stopped him facing it all together that being omori. and omori doesn't want sunny to do that. the violin symbolizes the remnants of sunnys hope and the distortion is omori's attempts at stopping him. the moment sunny well and truly faces his guilt is when he plays his part of the duet with his sister.
It wasn’t even the disturbing imagery in the background that scared me. Those shots of Omori in the darkness with that unblinking stare as the game says that he *will* not succumb...... *THAT* is what chilled me to the bone above everything else.
Overtime, I like how these tracks begin to dig into Sunny's conscience and slowly unravel it. It truly shows the fragility of his mind, and how much it hurts to be himself. He no longer can fight with his friends, He can no longer advance deeper into his dreams, He has to face himself.
I think it's very sad, how this all powerful alter ego that represses trauma is actually just a scared, guilt-ridden 12 year old kid. It packs a punch regardless of the route - Either Sunny releases this battered version of himself that has protected him for 4 years and is now ready to care for himself and his trauma or Omori is burdened forever with control over a severely burdened mind. Omori is not just a representation of trauma, he's a protective mechanism.
the fact that all this garbled, loud noise is actively drowning out the violin could very well symbolize how in the first part of the fight, sunny's attempt to truly accept guilt and move forward is being overshadowed by omori, who is the part of sunny that desperately wishes to continue living in his little bubble of happiness in the dream world, and keeps discouraging sunny from going out there and accepting reality tldr omori is a good game
That feeling when you're going back to play the game again, and you're sitting in your chair thinking like "Huh, I'm playing as the literal manifestation of hopelessness, depression, and self-loathing."
This honestly rival the final fight in mother 3 for me I was so fucking emotional throughout the final act and man the OST made the fight so painful and beautiful such a experience 10/10 great job OMOCAT
watching omori’s sprite become more and more nightmarish, along with the background, is a different kind of horror and i loved it. not only that, but watching “omori did not succumb” turn into “omori will not succumb” is something that somehow felt extremely real, even though this part of the game was very dreamlike and surreal.
After hearing this theme a lot, I started to realize this isn’t Omori’s theme, it’s Sunny’s. The violin stays constant throughout the song, never changing. The only thing that changes is that background music, as it gets more and more distorted. But that’s what makes it even more evident. The distorted background in Alter represents the pain, the grief, the struggle Sunny’s been through these past 4 years. And now, he’s not running away, he’s ready to face it all head on. The violin never changing represents Sunny, as he pushes through the grief, the pain, and the suffering. He no longer wishes to accept the reality of White Space, Headspace, or Black Space. He wants to know the truth and end it. And the only way to end it, is to go from where it all began.
i think of this song as if the violin represents sunny weeping after all he went through. the process of remembering and confronting reality is a tough one very few can commit to. when one has to face the truth, it is never easy and everything you bottled up will simply flood until there is nothing else to shed i believe sunny is one of the strongest main characters out there. both psychologically and emotionally. i wish to someday own his strength too.
"She loved you and you killed her." "AUBREY loved her and you killed her." "BASIL loved her and you killed her." "HERO loved her and you killed her." "KEL loved her and you killed her." YOU loved her and you killed her." "You should just die."
Spoilers I had full intentions on killing Omori, I really wanted SUNNY to feel better and tell the truth about Mari to everyone. They deserved to know, and hiding behind the blissful ignorance of the Dreamworld was no way to live. Striking Omori down, over and over was slowly getting to me as the song became more corrupt, as Omori kept telling me that it was useless and that I'd only find happiness if I hid behind the truth, it suddenly came to me that this wasn't supposed to be an impossible fight, but symbolism. The whole fight was to represent that your actions will always remain and that you won't be able to forget the truth if you embrace it, you'll always be haunted by your past. While it's hard to accept the truth, you must overcome your fears and make sure that the truth is known. It's a really inspiring fight and if I was in SUNNY's situation, I don't know if I would be able to overcome Omori like he did.
And he didn't. It was the words of the people that matter to him that gave him courage. Without those, in the hikki route it gets too much and he kills himself.
yeah, that's why there is a picture that isn't use in the game that is "nowyouknow.png" or something like that, you can see SUNNY in his bed, his eyes wide open, as if he just realise what he did, and he have to live with it. This game is a nightmare, but so beautiful...
Well, I'm learning how to draw so I can make drawings of myself and my own "Omori" if you wonder, in fact, more like someone who represses my flaws and failures, it's one who always remembers my mistakes and makes me feel like the most vile guy in the world. I'm thinking on making this kind of battle a comic
But everybody has a face that they hold inside A face that awakes when I close my eyes A face watches every time they lie A face that laughs every time they fall (And watches everything) So you know that when it's time to sink or swim That the face inside is watchin' you too Right inside your skin - Papercut by Linkin Park
“ ... “ _Omori did not succumb._ “ You’ve caused so much suffering...yet you do nothing. And so, you’ve earned nothing in return. “ “ Your friends will never forgive you. They’ll abandon you, just like you did them. And that’s what you deserve. “ _Omori did not succumb._ “ You tell yourself that you don’t want to burden others... but the truth is that you’re selfish. You don’t want people to depend on you. “ “ When do you think about others? How long are you going to let people take care of you? You say that you care, but you’re a _liar._ You’ve never done anything for anyone else. You’re unless. _Less_ than useless. You’re *sick.* ” “ People like you don’t _deserve_ to live. “ _Omori did not succumb._ “ Your friends are wrong about you. The you they love isn’t _you_ at all. You let them believe in a lie to protect yourself. “ “ You’re nothing but a liar. And when they see the truth...they’ll hate you as much as you hate yourself. “ “ If they know the truth, you’ll never be able to regain their trust. No matter what you do, it’ll be hopeless. All you’ll do is make things worse. It would be _better_ to just *die.* “ _Omori_ *will* _not succumb._ “ *YOU* killed Mari. She loved you, and you killed her. Hero loved her, and you killed her. Aubrey loved her, and you killed her. Kel loved her, and you killed her. Basil loved her, and you killed her. _You_ loved her, and *you killed her.* “ _Omori_ *will* _not succumb._ “ *You should just DIE.* “
@@quinnsuxx That’s kind of the point if you think about it. Omori is slinging every single negative thought that created him, formed the safe space that is Headspace, and caused Sunny to isolate himself for 4 years back at him. If Sunny wants to have peace, Omori will make him FIGHT for it, by reminding him of the thoughts he pushed down deep inside to just live a stagnant existence. Those thoughts, at this point, are powerful enough to potentially drive Sunny to death, which, at this point, the part of his mind that is Omori WANTS. Omori is the part of Sunny that believes telling the truth will just make things worse, and that running from it, from his guilt, is better, but at this point, there’s nowhere to run, or hide. The only thing Omori believes is best for Sunny is to die, to let the truth disappear, as Basil probably wouldn’t confess on his own. Sunny, however...he can push past this, and being able to ignore the harsh words Omori flings at him and remember everything about his time with Mari gives him strength to overcome all of this.
There is so much venom and raw hatred behind each of those lines. If guilt had a voice, this is what it would say. And if it had a musical theme, OMORI+ALTER is exactly what it would sound like. This game is a fucking masterpiece. Audiovisual storytelling at it's finest.
Spoilers What the most emotional gut punch to me in this boss fight was when Omori started to distort. You can see hellmari in the background, who is a vile and disgusting perversion of Mari that Sunny now sees her as. There are many other times in this game that you see these cognitions of Mari, and half of the time their necks are distorted bent. With Omori putting the Mari cognition behind him, he was basically showing sunny how he thought of Mari as a last plea to stay in an escapist fantasy land or die and take the truth to the grave. This game has so many small details that are meant to mess with you if you have the hindsight.
Fun fact: There is actually a phase after the one where Omori says "___ loved her and you killed her", where in the background you can see the shadows of all 4 of your friends hanged. To get to it you need some pretty extreme luck. After you reach that phase omori kills you in 2 hits by using the Omori Erases the Enemy attack, and you cant heal due to the afraid emotion and Calm Down not working. I dont think the music changes after you reach that phase
@@bartek1887V No, what you are describing, is a combonation of 2 phases. "___ loved her and you killed her" happens in phase 5, the hanged people, and 2 shot kill ERASE, along with no healing is phase 6
During phase 4 the Erase animation changes to an image of Hellmari appearing over Sunny's HUD portrait. Omori isn't just showing it to Sunny, he starts downright attacking him with it.
[Spoilers] What really suprises me about this boss is how it felt so built up, but I never really realized until the moment I entered the battle, and that music started playing. The whole last day feels like Sunny slowly learning to come to terms with what he's done. And once that's done, it's time to learn to move on. He receives a vision of Mari in the night, who claims she'd forgive him. He relives memory after memory, realizing that they can't be undone no matter what sort of tragedy strikes; not from his mind, and not from the minds of his friends, which is surely a reason to consider forgiving him. And just when you think he's ready, you realize there's one last obstacle he has to overcome; himself. The part of him that repressed those very thoughts in the first place. The part thought it was protecting him, but only began to slowly kill him, and fester into something stronger... After all these years, it's finally time to face Omori. It's finally time for these two personalities inhabiting the same body to clash
"It's because you feel so guilty right now, that you need to forgive yourself here. Move on. Keep living. Ironic, isn't it? If you didn't feel guilt, it'd be so much easier to move on. But then, you wouldn't be someone who should move on. But now that it's so difficult, all of a sudden it's become something you should do. You must do. Well, that's how we humans live. As soon as it becomes difficult, there's a good chance it becomes something we have to do."
@@sonicdml4175 True. The ability to feel guilt and remorse is quite healthy and a good thing. Good people are capable of feeling guilt and remorse. However, there is scientific evidence that indicates that “psychopaths” are actually born neurologically different from the rest of us. The brains of psychopaths actually lack the ability to spontaneously and easily experience emotional empathy, remorse, or guilt. People who are born psychopathic have some sort of neurological mis-wiring or abnormality.
I don't think people talk about how cinematic 2:50 is. To me it's just a very amazing thing, and every tie I rewind to listen I can imagine a hero looking up to a leviathan, thousands of times larger, the size of the sky itself, staring back and ready to end everything.
This is what true pain sounds like I had watched Undertale gameplay before Watched every route Still bought the game and played it I had watched Omori gameplay before Saw every ending, almost every route Will buy the game and play it *Because Undertale and Omori both are masterpieces.*
There are days when I come here, just to cry with this song in the background, because it always makes me feel more fragile. Today was one of those days
One aspect I enjoyed from Omori comes more from a game mechanic. You get to name your character, you embody the character by changing Sunny’s name to something like your own name. Something more personal. Throughout the game you may even refer to yourself in the first person. Then when your hit with the horror of what you did you disconnect. Suddenly it’s not “What did I do?” It’s “What did you do or what have you done?” You dissociate, you couldn’t do something so horrible. You look at your character with different view now and as a result of it I think it helps further help the player understand what Sunny has tried to forget and dissociate from the tragedy.
Same but I feel like the game was all about the uncertainty of moving forwards. So to leave the player with the same level of unease as Sunny of not knowing what's coming next is the best way it could have gone. Like Sunny, we're left worried but hopeful.
I believe the ending was deliberately left ambiguous for this reason. Whether you think Sunny’s friends would forgive him depends on if you think YOU would forgive him. We wouldn’t get that if the game showed their reaction.
man, when I got to this part of the game I wanted to cry with the things that omori said to sunny, for a moment I felt identified (at the end I did cry).
I made the mistake of going back and relistening to some music from omori a day after playing it. This song broke me. I accepted what happened in the ending with it on a interpreted positive note (secret ending). But I failed to realize how much I blanked out during this moment of the game. I got trapped And I couldn’t get it out of my head. The beautiful yet terrifying violin with Omori trying to stop me from moving on and forgiving myself, repeating in my head with the distortions and screams. I was back in the middle and being unsure about how I felt with self doubt. I replayed through memory lain to gather my thoughts and remember that I wasn’t alone, I remembered their words. I faced him and watched the recital, and even though I played the game a day prior at this same section, I cried even harder because I knew it was officially over...
If I had a nickel for every video game song played on the violin that has multiple phases and gives me severe psychic damage every time that I listen to it, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
As someone who is currently battling depressed and is struggling to fight the urge of suicide, this battle really hurts me. Omori was supposed to be a coping mechanism for Sunny, but it turns out that Omori was the one who was destroying Sunny. This final fight is Sunny trying to stop Omori from killing him. Or in other words, Sunny trying to stop himself from committing suicide. And that's how I feel right now. It's so so so hard to win over depression, and giving up (or in omori terms, running away) is such an easy way out of it. But you know you can't. The distortion is what my brain feels like. Completely torn, not making any sense, not thinking clearly, just painful nonsense. The moments of your trauma play over and over like a broken recorded skipping around the track. It's constantly replaying, tournamenting you. It feels like the pain and guilt will never go away. Avoiding it doesn't help, and directly fighting it feels impossible. Someone said this on the extended version of this song so credit to them. They said: "You can't kill trauma, but trauma can kill you." And since then it's been ringing in my head. Here's the thing. That quote isn't fully true. Yes, trauma never goes away, yet you can still learn how to manage and cope through it. You have to keep going. I know it feels impossible, but you know you can do it. It's hard to say this, but you are strong enough to win over depression and the urge of suicide. It's going to be a draining and painful process, and I know you can do it. Keep on breathing. Just you breathing right now means you're winning this battle in your brain. *Persist*
To be honest, as a 18 old, I'm having really confusing part of my life right now, and sometimes I feel like it would be easier for me to just dissapear. I've always felt that someone like me don't belongs to this world, like I'm just being useless no matter what I do or say... But reading this, it actually make me cry right now. No matter who you are, thank you so much. I hope you won't give up too
this is my favourite soundtrack from the entire game. i absolutely love the mix between harmony and disorder near the end parts, i also love how the main instrument in this song is violin since obviously sunny is playing it while fighting omori. this soundtrack is a masterpiece
EVERYTHING I HEARD IN THIS OST : 4:50 A gasp. Mari discovering the broken violin. (A fight might has began between this two timestamps) 5:14 « Hey no Stop it ! » Mari trying to reason Sunny before falling down the stairs 5:19 sounding like someone or something falling down stairs. 5:22 « Mari no ! » Sunny realising what just he did 5:25 Sunny crying at what he has done 5:30 we can hear a heart machine indicating the beating of it indicating that they are in an hospital
"It's now or never, Sunny. Just give up, you've already done so much wrong for the world. Why bother living." Omori said, his knife gripped tight on his hand, not willing to give up. "Because I want to confess the truth. If you'd just let me-" "No, I will not. I have done so much to get rid of the terrible memories, keep them in Black Space, and try to make things better for you to keep dreaming and making a better version of the damned world and this is how you'd thank me?" The two were in a fight whether to forgive or die. Sunny couldn't bear keeping the guilt, but Omori had other plans to do. Such as... "So you want me to end my own life? Not yet, no! I won't. You can't stop me from doing that!" Sunny fought back, still trying to keep calm to stay alive. But Omori was far more stronger than him and Sunny knew that. "Oh, yes I can. Let's see how you can stop me when your final moments are met." Omori said with a stoic face that hinted anger. *Why won't he just cooperate with me and leave?* He just wants to end his struggle to stay alive but Sunny wanted more time and Omori doesn't know why, but he's not going to back down, he's not willing to give up, he's never willing to drop the knife, he won't stop until Sunny gives up. Though Sunny was sure he'll be defeated, there was still one more way to maybe persuade him to let him go and receive his comeuppance when he says the truth. *A hint of light in a lightbulb -- The birth of an idea -- lit on Sunny's mind. Though the 2 are connected to ones consciousness, there was maybe a way to get him to give up. Finally* The Duet.
Each one of OMORI's ERASE attacks starting from Phase 2 will showcase a specific object relating to OMORI himself or a grim reminder of SUNNY's sins: Phase 2: Uses the RED HANDS move from the OMORI ROUTE. Phase 3: Uses the realistic RED HANDS from RED SPACE. Phase 4: Uses large clumps of MARI's hair, referencing her death. Phase 5: Uses the distorted HELLMARI figure and a hellish version of SUNNY. Phase 6: Represents SUNNY's guilt and self-hate combined into one devastating attack. The wiki doesn't hold back.
It just came to me, why Sunny battles Omori (aka summary of all his guilt sadness and fears) by playing a violin. It is kinda on the nose but the day Sunny killed Mari was the day of their final recital which Sunny didn't want to participate in which in the end killed Mari. By playing this song in duet with Omori (aka Mari's piano (black top, striped shorts that look like piano keys)) Sunny fulfilled Mari's last wish that she had before death, playing that final recital. Plus to that he is overcoming himself and undones his mistake of turning down Mari which provoked the incident, this solo of his is symbolically ties loose ends of what Mari left after herself, this is the redemption Stranger was talking about
This OST. THIS OST. THIS IS THE ONLY OST IN THIS PLAYLIST THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO GIVE ME CHILLS. HOLY CRAP I HATE THIS BUT I LOVE IT IM CLOSE TO TEARS YOU GUYS I-
i play this in piano, starting in Do-Solm-Fam-Rem-Solm-Rem // Second part -> dom-solm-fam-rem-mib-dom // is just magic. Trying to accompany him is a feeling that you cannot often feel when touching something with your soul
The virgin “best friend is the final boss” vs the chad “YOU are the final boss”
hmm is that an undertale reference
Average Betrayal Fan
Vs
Average Self Enemy Enjoyer
This… has more meaning to it than I thought..
Die a hero, or live forever as a villain..
Tell the truth or sink within the lies..
Or even:
Friends aren’t just hurt from someone else, but it’s because of YOU.
Is this a spoiler?
@@kaijuotuski5639 it’s complicated don’t worry about it 🗿
As a wise game once said...
*Despite everything, it's still you.*
This is Undertale reference or I’m crazy?
@@smack3154 Undertale reference
@@DeltaBlazin gud 👍👍
Thanks, now I'm crying :')
*Its me*
The moment you realize that yourself are the final boss
And you yourself have to beat it
Imma fight these thoughts.
.
.
Dem, brain got knife.
It seems a little... OFF putting too.
@@asgharabbas9885 change brain to me but with quotation marks
*wait, i am boss music?*
5:15 "stop it!" (either Mari or Sunny)
5:19 *thudding* (Mari falling down the stairs)
5:25 *crying* (Sunny)
Holy crap I can hear it now.
oh my god...
I wish there was “a yo the pizza here” in that theme
I cant hear the thudding but i can hear the slight stop it and crying
5:30 the Heart Meter in the Hospital
This is one of the saddest boss fights I've ever played
what comes close to this man😭
@@linkedius2532 Final boss of Mother 3. This and that are the only two boss fights that make me cry like a bitch just by hearing their music
great now play jimmy and the pulsating mass
you know it's sad when it's sadder than gwyn
Omori used Painful Truth.
SUNNY feel SAD.
PLAYER feel DEPRESSED.
I love how this fight isn't even beatable, you don't beat Omori, instead you accept that he exists.
its more a fight for control.
@@grimmsoul3096 disappears INTO the winner
@@SDBR8170 not really. all that can be said it the loser loses control and the winner takes control.
@@grimmsoul3096 But he's still a part of him. In the bad ending, there's still Sunny in OMORI, and not only physically. That scene represents Sunny surrendering to despair. He's still him, not some meat automaton.
@@grimmsoul3096 Samuel won your arguement and people liked it more than you so you loose
Most people seem to think OMORI wants to hurt Sunny.
I don't think that's the case.
OMORI was created to protect Sunny from the truth.
By remembering the truth, Sunny is threatening to hurt himself.
So, OMORI decides that there's only one way to protect Sunny from himself-
By making sure Sunny never hurts again.
And the only way to do that... The only way to permanently end the pain...
Is to end Sunny.
"I'm going to kill him so he isn't hurt. Yes."
To be fair, it isn't exactly easy (if at all possible) to make a corpse feel either physical or mental pain.
also cause in omoris mind (part of sunnys mind) that escaping pain is though death.
its how you run from whenever basil or something tries to tell sunny though omori the truth
Imagine having your own mind trying to kill you to take over, isn't that an alter ego?
It's almost like a paradox
I like how the violin is constant throughout the entire song. Uninterrupted. Unchanging. Pushing through all the distortion, the awful thoughts, the memories replaying on loop getting louder and louder. Deafening. But the violin is still there.
It’s like the game’s telling us Sunny will persevere; no matter what Omori does or says, no matter how his friends react, no matter how he reacts, Sunny will keep going.
GO SUNNY!
Omori:HOW IS THIS MF STILL ALIVE I JUST CUT OUT HIS INTERNAL ORGANS
@@NoCryinRyan in white space, I believe it's one day left, the theme is steady. It's no longer 8-bit (fake), it no longer hesitates. It's likely symbolic that Sunny has decided, and depending on how that final day plays out, he will tell them or take the truth with him. It's clear now what he wants.
And that's why this is one of my favorites from the OST. Very symbolic when you put it like that.
"Friends... Friends are supposed to be there for each other."
"I hope that you'll be able to find some comfort... Or, y'know, happiness."
"Last time... We made the mistake of leaving each other when we needed each other the most. This time... We'll stay together."
"One day... Maybe things can go back to the way they were before."
"You'll forgive yourself... Won't you... Sunny?"
I'M NOT CRYING, MY EYES ARE JUST SWEATING!!!
"You killed Mari. She loved you, and you killed her."
"Hero loved her, and you killed her."
"Aubrey loved her, and you killed her."
"Kel loved her, and you killed her."
"Basil loved her, and you killed her."
"You loved her, and you killed her."
... You know the rest.
“Omori did not succumb”
“Omori will not succumb”
Why.
Fuck the last one. I can feel my throat closing...eyes misty.
You've caused so much suffering... yet you do nothing. And so you've earned nothing in return.
Your friends will never forgive you. They'll abandon you just like you did them... and that's what you deserve.
@@frisolaxod3835 "You tell yourself that you don't want to burden others, but the truth is that you're selfish. You just don't want people to depend on you." - Omori
"When do you think about others? How long are you going to let people take care of you?
You say you care but you're a liar.
You've never done anything for anyone else.
You're useless... less than useless...
You're sick."
"Your friends are wrong about you. The person they love isn't you at all. You let them believe in a lie to protect yourself."
@@frisolaxod3835 "You're nothing but a liar...and when they see the truth, they'll hate you as much as you hate yourself." - Omori
I just realized this fight might be the one of if not the only time you never get the "Welcome to White Space" card.
Because you're not welcome there anymore.
(Not) Welcome to white space.
You’ve been banished from here as long as you can remember.
The worst enemy you'll fight is yourself and no one else.
What if you Wanted to save Basil and accept what you done
But God said Omori did no succumb
Well Sunny didn't succumb either, despite a game-over, so Omori had no choice but to give up.
More like:
Omori will not succumb
What if you Basil and accept But God said Succumb
Wanted to save what you done Omori did no
goldy what
Ima fight my feelings
(5 cycles later)
Damn. Brain's got hands
And, also, yknow... a knife because why wouldn't he
Rain world reference???????????
Damn, the horrors of my hidden subconscious got hands
@@tritonwe8937 You do realize Rain World didn't invent cycles, right?
@@arcticguy3455 the brain with hands is rain world reference (daddy long legs)
The music really shows how much a murder can impact you. Even if SUNNY just had a fight with MARI and killed her by accident, he cannot deny that he actually murdered his own sister and he has to live with that guilt and depression for the rest of his life.
Basil:
Woah same
Except i wasn't accidental
And the fact that she was like a guardian to him...and always protected him...and he just...
"You loved her and you killed her."
"She loved you...and you killed her!"
@@Lizsdrafts
tbh, one of the most affecting parts of his talking for me, is that he only uses statements, no shouting or questions, he is just saying what you've done.
FOE FACTS!
*OMORI*
"Visibly looks just like me. It's true form is little more than a mass of hatred, shame, and fear. OMORI is a monster only I could create, so one only I could defeat." -SUNNY
oh my god i forgot completely about that
@@adrianscarlet16 HAHA! I hav'st've fool'd you sir! This quote is entirely fabricated! OHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHO!
@@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj im going insane thinking it was real
however it does fit well
@@adrianscarlet16 thanks
@@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj I don’t know who to shoot! They’re too alike!
- KEL
A small detail that I loved through this fight is that Omori was created to protect Sunny. So throughout the fight, as Sunny slowly remembers and comes to terms, more of his traumas become clear behind Omori. Even as Omori is resorting to ending it all, trying to get Sunny to k/ll himself, Omori is still guarding Sunny from his fears. He stands in front of the Red Hands and HELLMARI and the other depictions of guilt and fear, trying to protect Sunny from seeing any of it. But it doesn't work, the facade of the White Space walls come crashing down, and Sunny is forced to face all of it--and when he stands up again, ready to play once more, he is actively choosing to LOOK AT IT. He purposefully chooses to look his trauma dead in the eyes and face The Truth. Omori failed his purpose.
Thank you
I cried reading this, thankyou
That's it. It's what I like so much about the skills ''Something'' helped you obtain. He starts by calming down, focusing and releasing, getting ever so closer to facing reality head on with each new ability, and the animation of the skills reflect that with Sunny slowly facing forward until he finally opens his eyes and looks to the front with the last skill.
The poor bastard tried, at-least.
@@LaBerengenaAtomica *overcome*
Ironic Omori was created to forget Mari's death, yet Omori represents the very guilt and self hatred Sunny has for himself for killing Mari. As long as Omori exists, the guilt will never disappear.
Ironic
But there is the fact that Omori is not really gone, but you made peace with his existence...
Only if you refused to succumb just like he did, otherwise...
he literally dissapeared
@@okegom_228 no, it's more like he was absorbed.
He's one with sunny.
Sunny faced his guilt.
And then embraced it.
You're fighting OMORI, Mari's piano, using your violin, which is also the music.
Damn
no
that piano has lost its power in this fight
the violin vs all sunny had gave omori
@@grimmsoul3096 people have different interpretations and that's valid
I hope this game gains more popularity
agreed
The way is a famous TH-camr do a review or something like that. Here in Brazil , the game was nothing known. I played it and had no one to talk about the game since nobody knew what it was. Then a famous Brazilian youtuber called Goularte did a 1 hour and 40 minutes review . Now the game is very popular here . So if I were you I would hope it happens in the US or other country that you live in . (Sorry for my english , iam still learning ).
@@veiga.0414 Your english is great! I hope you like omori!
My feeling is it will.
i do aswell but i try to share the game jimmy and the pulsating mass with the community as it is beautifully dark aswell
You are your worst enemy.
Also love the fact that Omori doesn't say a word in the whole game and when he does he says the most vile and hurtful things in the whole game and acts like a an emotionless psychopathic savage.Which means that's how Sunny viewed himself as nothing than a fucked up murderer hence why he uses an instrument of violence as opposed to the other characters that use balls and bats and teapots and shit.Omocat really made the best game by far .AAA creators look like they smoke that goofy pack in comparison.Imagine trying to play a regural game after this visceral experience.This game broke me for sure.
i think you kinda missed the point a little chief. OMORI is not and never acts like a psychopathic murderer, he acts like those thoughs that people have when they are depressed. The things that he says are all thoughts most people with depression would think and that isn't just an inference, you can see it all over the internet. The point of this moment is for sunny to forgive himself and his demons. Why do you think they embrace at the end of the struggle?
@@Natoursofcourseomori-truth/final phase omori is literally referred to as "evil" by stranger & Sunny's subconscious
One of the most haunting violin tracks I’ve ever heard, and it’s only a few notes…
This is what it sounds like, at least to me, this is what a peak in depression sounds like... mind sort of clings to a melody while being overloaded by negativity all around.
Constant rushing noises and thoughts that go nowhere yet all bear a ton of weight for no reason, getting louder and louder until you can barely hear the melody anymore, all the while, you have a very clear list of lines going through your head telling you how much this is all your fault and you're the problem.
Noise, pain, noise,
Melody's back, noise overpowers it.
Can't think straight,
Can't calm down,
Alone, sad,
People are talking to me, they won't listen, they can't hear it, they can't understand.
Noise.
I dunno how many people can fathom what a mental breakdown can appear as, and I'm sure the vast majority of us haven't experienced what this kid has, nor do I wish anyone to do so... but god damn if this isn't a perfect video game boss fight representation of a breakdown, at least for me.
Just... noise and chaos.
I can confirm that what Omori says is something you generally come down to. I wouldnt say depression could have 1 sound because the reason is different for everyone but i wouldnt say this is it
I dont care if i ruined the 69 likes, i just care about the accuracy of this.
Can confirm this is somewhat what a depression/anxiety attack feels like
Can confirm. However, to me. The violin sounds hopeful, sad, yet it drones on. Its this almost sad determination, one thats quickly shouted, screeched and being overtaken by this fear, this panic, a harsh and painful noise, and its consuming. Its this overwhelming noise that makes you give up and break down.
@@TChunky and yet the violin still continues on, symbolising Sunny's determination throughout the fight, that no matter what omori says, he WILL not succumb
"Why must you take that cursed form? It is indeed strong and can protect you... but if you rely on it too often... What you will sacrifice can never be reclaimed."
Im going to believe that what was sacrificed was the time that Sunny spent in headspace. The time that should have been spent with his friends when it was needed most.
@@heatsflamesman5353 What the stranger is trying to say is that when Sunny disassociates from his problems, he "becomes" OMORI and lives out his own made up fantastics while ignoring the truth, neglecting everything that's real.
If Sunny continues to embrace the unhealthy coping mechanism that is his alter-ego OMORI, then he'll completely lose who he really is, forever, and just become OMORI.
@@heatsflamesman5353 and that the stranger is talking about the hikiomori route.
as if you rely on omori to escape the pain. you will lose the good ending.
This song is so good it makes me want to throw up
Like genuinely I don’t know if it happens with anyone else, but the entire ending of this game was so heart wrenching it made me feel nauseous. This game has gotten a bigger emotional response out of me than anything else I’ve ever played in my life.
@@Sunny-lu9un Recccomend playing jimmy and the pulsating mass for more emotions
I have goosebumps everytimes I hear this song ngl...
@@whyamihere4548 same honestly
@@Sunny-lu9un that’s a common reaction if you get really emotional really quickly, your body and brain don’t know how to handle the sudden shift so instinct comes in and tries to get whatever caused it out
This song makes me feel as if _the game itself_ is the final boss - fighting against the face of the world you have created to shut yourself out, fighting against this silent protagonist going on big adventures while you yourself deteriorate.
well I mean the game is called Omori so
tfw you physically fight the manifestation of your own guilt, self-hatred, and overall depression
@@ColdestMorning idk what that means lol (tfw and mfw)
@@ColdestMorning OHHHHHHHHHHH
truly one of the moments of all time
You did it, Sunny! You told them. I'm so proud of you.
Great, now i am sad again.....
@@funghiciabatta551 Don't be, he did it. He finally told them the truth. It's a good thing.
There is a certain joy that can only be found in sorrow.
nah huh
how would uh Aubrey react
The music: screams and the demented noises of the fight
The atmosphere: hands everywhere, a head behind himself
Sunny: 😑
no later on omori makes sunny SCARED lol
More like = |
-_- is frisk
@@jotarosans7540 in the OMORI fight Sunny has his eyes closed
@@halalcomrade34 it's that way in the phobia fights and the something battle too
@@warlord4thewitness Which is why his skill animations are about him slowly opening his eyes and facing the truth.
5:13 a woman gasping
5:15 a woman crying out "stop it"
he's literally living out mari's final moment again
I've always wondered what those sounds were
@@sura2412 But they aren't implying Sunny did it on purpose
@@sura2412 They literally got into an argument, Sunny tried to push past Mari to the stairs, she blocked his way. The gasp could easily be from when Mari saw the broken violin, the "Stop it" from Sunny trying to get past her.
I think at 4:50 you can hear a collapsing sound.... I think it's the part where Mari fell down...
@@angrygoat9099 f*ck
4:50 a distorted scream. You can literally hear her cry the moment she fell. This lets me shiver every time.
It might also be the sound of Sunny‘s violin shattering when he threw it down the stairs. Either way it’s terrifying.
I always thought the effects were someone shitting so hard
Now i feel bad
It's the violín or Mari?
It the violin
4:19 is... Mari
Also 4:22 sunny or basil says "Mari, no"
Maris death in somewhat order?
4:17
The sound of when the violin hits the floor thudding and crashing down the stairs.
4:24
The argument between sunny and Mari begins, we can hear people talking.
4:40
"Stop it."
Either sunny or Mari, probably when Mari grabs on to his shoulders.
4:49
Sunny pushes Mari. Her body coming down the stairs and eventually hitting the violin.
5:00
Sunny going down the stairs, Mari isn't moving.
At this point he's probably trying to wake her up.
5:13
"COME ON"
"Stop it"
Still trying to wake up Mari. Telling her to get up. Thinking she'll get up at anytime.
No response.
5:25
Sunny starts crying the realisation of what he's done.
At this point basil comes out.
I know that some people think that 4:52 is the violin, however the order I hear is:
Maris scream > Body hitting the stairs > body crashes on top of the violin
But that is just my interpretation! ^^
If there is anything else I could add or may seen incorrect please tell me! :)
Now I can't stop hearing all that everytime I listen to this track
the latter half is what i imagine brain death sounds like
yeah, when you get stabbed on the eye, i can say that there is at least some brain uses that will be harmed, like..... seeing you know?
It sounds to me more like all the repressed emotions and memories finally boiling over as Sunny is forced to either learn to forgive himself, or die.
Ever listen to everything at the end of time?
wah....no...it sounds like raw emotion to me. That raw, aggressively loud sound of just this self hate and self abuse that just scratches at you, deep, painful cuts of pain....its this overpowering feeling of just all your hard work oh so painfully being stripped down to nothing
Sounds like Omori drowning out the violin (which represents Sunny). Erasing Sunny as he goes.
You remembered DUKE's words.
"Hey, Sunny. Ready to kick some ass?"
*insert megadeth here*
4:54 sunny lets out a big one after pushing down his sister by accident
💀
NAAAAAAAAAH 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Phase 6 : Background has silhouettes of real world KEL, BASIL, AUBREY, and HERO being hung in similar manner to MARI.
The cacophony of static and voices represents OMORI's self hatred and guilt over the years of avoiding the truth and the violin is the last spark of Sunny's will. It's the part of him that desperately wants to forgive himself.
It's how Sunny was able to overcome Omori with the emotional support of his friends. I think it's really cool how the chaotic noise slowly enters the song, yet the violin never ceases to play and is never completely drowned out.
It's as though the depression plaguing sunny's mind is just as desperate as the last bit of fight left in him, trying so desperately to drown out the violin, even at point forcing him to relive the argument with mari, but ultimately failing. Sunny in that moment knows what he's fighting for, and the violin never being drowned out symbolizes how he will not forget. Not again.
@@spookytimejunction its not trying to drown out the violin tho
the point is, its just there, it exists, and you have to bear with it and focus on the melody until it ceases
@@noobfart it absolutely is, you can hear as all the background noise gets more and more loud and distorted, you can hear that it's trying to drown the violin out but it can't. through all this chaos and horror in sunnys mind that violin is still there, telling him what's really important.
@@spookytimejunction hes just remembering even more and realizing how much of a selfish lazy person he is which intensifies the guilt and pain (the noises)
the whole fight is a downward spiraling mental breakdown and the only thing he has to cling to is the belief that his friends wont hate him as much as he thinks they will, because the moments he spent together with them were very much real
i dont think that many people can handle it as well as sunny did in the good ending, especially at such a young age with the belief that he always had zero value. thats why you can lose in 3 different ways at many points in the game
@@noobfart you're disregarding the fact omori's even considered a seperate entity in sunny's mind. yes it's true he's fighting through grief and pain, but my point is that omori is trying to smother that hope out and the music conveys this. omori's job and entire point of existing is to "protect" sunny from himself. it's not solely sunnys battle trying to face his guilt and pain but it's him trying to get through the barrier that stopped him facing it all together that being omori. and omori doesn't want sunny to do that. the violin symbolizes the remnants of sunnys hope and the distortion is omori's attempts at stopping him. the moment sunny well and truly faces his guilt is when he plays his part of the duet with his sister.
OMORI did not succumb
OMORI will not succumb
It wasn’t even the disturbing imagery in the background that scared me.
Those shots of Omori in the darkness with that unblinking stare as the game says that he *will* not succumb...... *THAT* is what chilled me to the bone above everything else.
I love how out of context this reads like one of those heroic moments like the Asriel fight.
@@darkuscarlet NO.
BAD. BAD DARKU. NO COMPARING OMORI TO UNDERTALE. BAD BOY DARKU. GO TO YOUR ROOM
@@FirstnameLastname-sb3hj What's so bad about comparing Omori to Undertale?
@@wheel4155 in my eyes it devalues the things that make omori its own game. like saying that any hard gane is "the next dark souls"
Overtime, I like how these tracks begin to dig into Sunny's conscience and slowly unravel it. It truly shows the fragility of his mind, and how much it hurts to be himself. He no longer can fight with his friends, He can no longer advance deeper into his dreams, He has to face himself.
I will never recover from this boss fight.
thats sunny's line
I think it's very sad, how this all powerful alter ego that represses trauma is actually just a scared, guilt-ridden 12 year old kid. It packs a punch regardless of the route - Either Sunny releases this battered version of himself that has protected him for 4 years and is now ready to care for himself and his trauma or Omori is burdened forever with control over a severely burdened mind. Omori is not just a representation of trauma, he's a protective mechanism.
the fact that all this garbled, loud noise is actively drowning out the violin could very well symbolize how in the first part of the fight, sunny's attempt to truly accept guilt and move forward is being overshadowed by omori, who is the part of sunny that desperately wishes to continue living in his little bubble of happiness in the dream world, and keeps discouraging sunny from going out there and accepting reality
tldr omori is a good game
How to summarize this fight in a nutshell:
Omori used Painful Truth.
SUNNY feels SAD.
PLAYER feels DEPRESSED.
FANDOM feels MISERABLE
OMOCAT feels MANIAC.
@@elchuniloco8 *manic
KEL feels-
HIS BEST WHEN HE FLEXES!
@@xVovex KEL feels, KEL, KEL is the emotion of eternal power.
Omori was SUCH A GOOD GAME.
was?
@@wheel4155 i beat the game.
You re supposed to play the game, not hitting it
That feeling when you're going back to play the game again, and you're sitting in your chair thinking like
"Huh, I'm playing as the literal manifestation of hopelessness, depression, and self-loathing."
until sunny knows too much omori will play the game
Sunny is the violin, the noises are omori. They get louder at the end to show the struggle of the battle and the loss you have to go through
and some of the noises in alter is mari
I just want to make everyone feel the same chills i felt.
5:13 Mari: "STOP IT!"
Phak you. Why
I can only somewhat hear a "STOP!!!"
I thought it said "STUPID!"
MARI is my mom if so.
This honestly rival the final fight in mother 3 for me I was so fucking emotional throughout the final act and man the OST made the fight so painful and beautiful such a experience 10/10 great job OMOCAT
This comment makes me want to pick up the earthbound franchise again.
that earthbound fight, the final fights in undertale, and this one were all painful and terrifying in their own way
watching omori’s sprite become more and more nightmarish, along with the background, is a different kind of horror and i loved it. not only that, but watching “omori did not succumb” turn into “omori will not succumb” is something that somehow felt extremely real, even though this part of the game was very dreamlike and surreal.
Hero loved her and you killed her , YOU loved her and you killed her .
The music that plays when you learn CALM DOWN, ENCORE, ALLEGRO, and CHERISH are over-powered.
One of the most powerful moments I have ever felt in storytelling.
this is the saddest shit i've heard all week
Maybe in all my life
Maybe in all my life
Such a calming music, love it
traumatic beats to relax/study to
Wise words from Omori from the hit indie game made by OMOCAT called OMORI.
After hearing this theme a lot, I started to realize this isn’t Omori’s theme, it’s Sunny’s. The violin stays constant throughout the song, never changing. The only thing that changes is that background music, as it gets more and more distorted. But that’s what makes it even more evident. The distorted background in Alter represents the pain, the grief, the struggle Sunny’s been through these past 4 years. And now, he’s not running away, he’s ready to face it all head on. The violin never changing represents Sunny, as he pushes through the grief, the pain, and the suffering. He no longer wishes to accept the reality of White Space, Headspace, or Black Space. He wants to know the truth and end it. And the only way to end it, is to go from where it all began.
i think of this song as if the violin represents sunny weeping after all he went through. the process of remembering and confronting reality is a tough one very few can commit to. when one has to face the truth, it is never easy and everything you bottled up will simply flood until there is nothing else to shed
i believe sunny is one of the strongest main characters out there. both psychologically and emotionally. i wish to someday own his strength too.
"She loved you and you killed her."
"AUBREY loved her and you killed her."
"BASIL loved her and you killed her."
"HERO loved her and you killed her."
"KEL loved her and you killed her."
YOU loved her and you killed her."
"You should just die."
Painfultruth belike
Omori telling sunny to commit suicide
Spoilers
I had full intentions on killing Omori, I really wanted SUNNY to feel better and tell the truth about Mari to everyone. They deserved to know, and hiding behind the blissful ignorance of the Dreamworld was no way to live. Striking Omori down, over and over was slowly getting to me as the song became more corrupt, as Omori kept telling me that it was useless and that I'd only find happiness if I hid behind the truth, it suddenly came to me that this wasn't supposed to be an impossible fight, but symbolism. The whole fight was to represent that your actions will always remain and that you won't be able to forget the truth if you embrace it, you'll always be haunted by your past. While it's hard to accept the truth, you must overcome your fears and make sure that the truth is known. It's a really inspiring fight and if I was in SUNNY's situation, I don't know if I would be able to overcome Omori like he did.
And he didn't. It was the words of the people that matter to him that gave him courage. Without those, in the hikki route it gets too much and he kills himself.
yeah, that's why there is a picture that isn't use in the game that is "nowyouknow.png" or something like that, you can see SUNNY in his bed, his eyes wide open, as if he just realise what he did, and he have to live with it. This game is a nightmare, but so beautiful...
Give yourself some credit, some humans can overcome great, massive things -- you just may be one of them.
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@@TheDracolordian your mouth.
OMORI: Doesn't have a final boss
Sunny: Fine, I'll do it myself
Somewhere, we all have an Omori.
We just need to overcome it when the time comes.
how grimm
yet how true
Wise words Ness
Well, I'm learning how to draw so I can make drawings of myself and my own "Omori" if you wonder, in fact, more like someone who represses my flaws and failures, it's one who always remembers my mistakes and makes me feel like the most vile guy in the world.
I'm thinking on making this kind of battle a comic
But everybody has a face that they hold inside
A face that awakes when I close my eyes
A face watches every time they lie
A face that laughs every time they fall
(And watches everything)
So you know that when it's time to sink or swim
That the face inside is watchin' you too
Right inside your skin
- Papercut by Linkin Park
This song convinced me that noise can truly be a genre.
If nothing else, this game has made me thankful that none of my mistakes were so horrifically fatal before I even finished my teenage years 😔
“ ... “
_Omori did not succumb._
“ You’ve caused so much suffering...yet you do nothing. And so, you’ve earned nothing in return. “
“ Your friends will never forgive you. They’ll abandon you, just like you did them. And that’s what you deserve. “
_Omori did not succumb._
“ You tell yourself that you don’t want to burden others... but the truth is that you’re selfish. You don’t want people to depend on you. “
“ When do you think about others? How long are you going to let people take care of you? You say that you care, but you’re a _liar._ You’ve never done anything for anyone else. You’re unless. _Less_ than useless. You’re *sick.* ”
“ People like you don’t _deserve_ to live. “
_Omori did not succumb._
“ Your friends are wrong about you. The you they love isn’t _you_ at all. You let them believe in a lie to protect yourself. “
“ You’re nothing but a liar. And when they see the truth...they’ll hate you as much as you hate yourself. “
“ If they know the truth, you’ll never be able to regain their trust. No matter what you do, it’ll be hopeless. All you’ll do is make things worse. It would be _better_ to just *die.* “
_Omori_ *will* _not succumb._
“ *YOU* killed Mari. She loved you, and you killed her.
Hero loved her, and you killed her.
Aubrey loved her, and you killed her.
Kel loved her, and you killed her.
Basil loved her, and you killed her.
_You_ loved her, and *you killed her.* “
_Omori_ *will* _not succumb._
“ *You should just DIE.* “
Damn wtf bro
Makin me tear up and shi
@@quinnsuxx That’s kind of the point if you think about it. Omori is slinging every single negative thought that created him, formed the safe space that is Headspace, and caused Sunny to isolate himself for 4 years back at him. If Sunny wants to have peace, Omori will make him FIGHT for it, by reminding him of the thoughts he pushed down deep inside to just live a stagnant existence. Those thoughts, at this point, are powerful enough to potentially drive Sunny to death, which, at this point, the part of his mind that is Omori WANTS. Omori is the part of Sunny that believes telling the truth will just make things worse, and that running from it, from his guilt, is better, but at this point, there’s nowhere to run, or hide. The only thing Omori believes is best for Sunny is to die, to let the truth disappear, as Basil probably wouldn’t confess on his own. Sunny, however...he can push past this, and being able to ignore the harsh words Omori flings at him and remember everything about his time with Mari gives him strength to overcome all of this.
All those mf villain lines is making me feel bad bro.
There is so much venom and raw hatred behind each of those lines. If guilt had a voice, this is what it would say. And if it had a musical theme, OMORI+ALTER is exactly what it would sound like. This game is a fucking masterpiece. Audiovisual storytelling at it's finest.
@@qwertydavid8070 Exactly.
i literally dont know how to describe what i feel everytime i hear this ost but its just so powerful especially the parted after it starts to distort
it feels weirdly comforting too
Spoilers
What the most emotional gut punch to me in this boss fight was when Omori started to distort. You can see hellmari in the background, who is a vile and disgusting perversion of Mari that Sunny now sees her as. There are many other times in this game that you see these cognitions of Mari, and half of the time their necks are distorted bent. With Omori putting the Mari cognition behind him, he was basically showing sunny how he thought of Mari as a last plea to stay in an escapist fantasy land or die and take the truth to the grave. This game has so many small details that are meant to mess with you if you have the hindsight.
Fun fact: There is actually a phase after the one where Omori says "___ loved her and you killed her", where in the background you can see the shadows of all 4 of your friends hanged. To get to it you need some pretty extreme luck. After you reach that phase omori kills you in 2 hits by using the Omori Erases the Enemy attack, and you cant heal due to the afraid emotion and Calm Down not working.
I dont think the music changes after you reach that phase
@@bartek1887V No, what you are describing, is a combonation of 2 phases.
"___ loved her and you killed her" happens in phase 5, the hanged people, and 2 shot kill ERASE, along with no healing is phase 6
@@sonicdml4175 thats what im talking about tho
@@bartek1887V
The way you said it is describing 2 phases at once, when you were talking about only 1.
During phase 4 the Erase animation changes to an image of Hellmari appearing over Sunny's HUD portrait. Omori isn't just showing it to Sunny, he starts downright attacking him with it.
I’m gonna buy this game due to the fact how engaged all the commentators are. I need to experience this bliss
so how was it?
>bliss
lol
lmao even
You won’t regret it.
@@acedelta12 game gives you emptiness lmao
[Spoilers]
What really suprises me about this boss is how it felt so built up, but I never really realized until the moment I entered the battle, and that music started playing.
The whole last day feels like Sunny slowly learning to come to terms with what he's done. And once that's done, it's time to learn to move on. He receives a vision of Mari in the night, who claims she'd forgive him. He relives memory after memory, realizing that they can't be undone no matter what sort of tragedy strikes; not from his mind, and not from the minds of his friends, which is surely a reason to consider forgiving him. And just when you think he's ready, you realize there's one last obstacle he has to overcome; himself. The part of him that repressed those very thoughts in the first place. The part thought it was protecting him, but only began to slowly kill him, and fester into something stronger... After all these years, it's finally time to face Omori. It's finally time for these two personalities inhabiting the same body to clash
"It's because you feel so guilty right now, that you need to forgive yourself here. Move on. Keep living.
Ironic, isn't it? If you didn't feel guilt, it'd be so much easier to move on. But then, you wouldn't be someone who should move on.
But now that it's so difficult, all of a sudden it's become something you should do. You must do.
Well, that's how we humans live. As soon as it becomes difficult, there's a good chance it becomes something we have to do."
Suppress*
@@pallingtontheshrike6374 basically summing up exactly why sunny is not a psychopath
@@pallingtontheshrike6374 To be honest, If you feel guilt, that pretty much proves your not a bad person.
@@sonicdml4175 True. The ability to feel guilt and remorse is quite healthy and a good thing. Good people are capable of feeling guilt and remorse.
However, there is scientific evidence that indicates that “psychopaths” are actually born neurologically different from the rest of us. The brains of psychopaths actually lack the ability to spontaneously and easily experience emotional empathy, remorse, or guilt. People who are born psychopathic have some sort of neurological mis-wiring or abnormality.
I don't think people talk about how cinematic 2:50 is.
To me it's just a very amazing thing, and every tie I rewind to listen I can imagine a hero looking up to a leviathan, thousands of times larger, the size of the sky itself, staring back and ready to end everything.
"You're nothing but a liar... and when they see the truth...
They'll hate you as much as you hate yourself."
''You're Useless...
Less Than Useless,
You're Sick''
Imagine your depressed friend going to bed and telling you "I'm going to go fight my repression!" Then when he wakes up he's not depressed anymore
this is the only song that can make me feel genuine sadness. not fear or sense of doom, just pure raw sad. what a beautiful game
This is what true pain sounds like
I had watched Undertale gameplay before
Watched every route
Still bought the game and played it
I had watched Omori gameplay before
Saw every ending, almost every route
Will buy the game and play it
*Because Undertale and Omori both are masterpieces.*
Now play jimmy and the pulsating mass.
@@_Tzer Will watch gameplay of it
YES!
Yep, I agreed, both games brings me alot of f e e l s. I recommend you reading Oyasumi Punpun and play Yume Nikki or Off by Mortis Ghost...
@@whyamihere4548 WILL DOOO
There are days when I come here, just to cry with this song in the background, because it always makes me feel more fragile. Today was one of those days
I tell ya, after this boss fight, I was never myself ever again.
Because some words that OMORI said felt really personal.
One aspect I enjoyed from Omori comes more from a game mechanic. You get to name your character, you embody the character by changing Sunny’s name to something like your own name. Something more personal.
Throughout the game you may even refer to yourself in the first person. Then when your hit with the horror of what you did you disconnect. Suddenly it’s not “What did I do?” It’s “What did you do or what have you done?” You dissociate, you couldn’t do something so horrible. You look at your character with different view now and as a result of it I think it helps further help the player understand what Sunny has tried to forget and dissociate from the tragedy.
I'd love to know what happens after SUNNY confesses
Same but I feel like the game was all about the uncertainty of moving forwards. So to leave the player with the same level of unease as Sunny of not knowing what's coming next is the best way it could have gone. Like Sunny, we're left worried but hopeful.
Hero Tagged You!
@@jamalzahr2689 Aubrey tagged Basil
in the best route basil is free and sunny walks to a new life
I believe the ending was deliberately left ambiguous for this reason.
Whether you think Sunny’s friends would forgive him depends on if you think YOU would forgive him.
We wouldn’t get that if the game showed their reaction.
Starting at 0:06 if you ignore the lead violin you can hear a girl singing.
OMORI : **becomes disturbing along wih the backround and music**
SUNNY: 😐😑😐
I cried listening to this...it's just so tragic..
the most painful and most despair-inducing part of the game
man, when I got to this part of the game I wanted to cry with the things that omori said to sunny, for a moment I felt identified (at the end I did cry).
The true final duet
I made the mistake of going back and relistening to some music from omori a day after playing it. This song broke me. I accepted what happened in the ending with it on a interpreted positive note (secret ending). But I failed to realize how much I blanked out during this moment of the game. I got trapped And I couldn’t get it out of my head. The beautiful yet terrifying violin with Omori trying to stop me from moving on and forgiving myself, repeating in my head with the distortions and screams. I was back in the middle and being unsure about how I felt with self doubt. I replayed through memory lain to gather my thoughts and remember that I wasn’t alone, I remembered their words. I faced him and watched the recital, and even though I played the game a day prior at this same section, I cried even harder because I knew it was officially over...
I did this exact same thing. I listened to so many songs from the game, crying the entire time.
If I had a nickel for every video game song played on the violin that has multiple phases and gives me severe psychic damage every time that I listen to it, I'd have 2 nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice
I've never played omori and this randomly played in my Mix and it's making me want to play omori now like it feels so sad huh??????
This is what extreme guilt sounds like.
As someone who is currently battling depressed and is struggling to fight the urge of suicide, this battle really hurts me.
Omori was supposed to be a coping mechanism for Sunny, but it turns out that Omori was the one who was destroying Sunny.
This final fight is Sunny trying to stop Omori from killing him. Or in other words, Sunny trying to stop himself from committing suicide.
And that's how I feel right now.
It's so so so hard to win over depression, and giving up (or in omori terms, running away) is such an easy way out of it. But you know you can't.
The distortion is what my brain feels like. Completely torn, not making any sense, not thinking clearly, just painful nonsense. The moments of your trauma play over and over like a broken recorded skipping around the track. It's constantly replaying, tournamenting you.
It feels like the pain and guilt will never go away. Avoiding it doesn't help, and directly fighting it feels impossible.
Someone said this on the extended version of this song so credit to them. They said: "You can't kill trauma, but trauma can kill you." And since then it's been ringing in my head. Here's the thing. That quote isn't fully true. Yes, trauma never goes away, yet you can still learn how to manage and cope through it. You have to keep going. I know it feels impossible, but you know you can do it.
It's hard to say this, but you are strong enough to win over depression and the urge of suicide.
It's going to be a draining and painful process, and I know you can do it.
Keep on breathing.
Just you breathing right now means you're winning this battle in your brain.
*Persist*
To be honest, as a 18 old, I'm having really confusing part of my life right now, and sometimes I feel like it would be easier for me to just dissapear. I've always felt that someone like me don't belongs to this world, like I'm just being useless no matter what I do or say... But reading this, it actually make me cry right now. No matter who you are, thank you so much. I hope you won't give up too
this is my favourite soundtrack from the entire game. i absolutely love the mix between harmony and disorder near the end parts, i also love how the main instrument in this song is violin since obviously sunny is playing it while fighting omori. this soundtrack is a masterpiece
EVERYTHING I HEARD IN THIS OST :
4:50 A gasp. Mari discovering the broken violin.
(A fight might has began between this two timestamps)
5:14 « Hey no Stop it ! » Mari trying to reason Sunny before falling down the stairs
5:19 sounding like someone or something falling down stairs.
5:22 « Mari no ! » Sunny realising what just he did
5:25 Sunny crying at what he has done
5:30 we can hear a heart machine indicating the beating of it indicating that they are in an hospital
Mari wasn't bringed to the hospital she was hung
When the mental breakdown decides to throw hands
Watch how I listen to this song so much I get it to 1k views
Damn, he did it all on his own...
Time to watch it to 10k dude
@@SeriouslyCere4l I don't have that much confidence in myself
@@gayggles5635 we believe in you dud
almost hitting the 10k!
"It's now or never, Sunny. Just give up, you've already done so much wrong for the world. Why bother living." Omori said, his knife gripped tight on his hand, not willing to give up. "Because I want to confess the truth. If you'd just let me-" "No, I will not. I have done so much to get rid of the terrible memories, keep them in Black Space, and try to make things better for you to keep dreaming and making a better version of the damned world and this is how you'd thank me?" The two were in a fight whether to forgive or die. Sunny couldn't bear keeping the guilt, but Omori had other plans to do. Such as... "So you want me to end my own life? Not yet, no! I won't. You can't stop me from doing that!" Sunny fought back, still trying to keep calm to stay alive. But Omori was far more stronger than him and Sunny knew that. "Oh, yes I can. Let's see how you can stop me when your final moments are met." Omori said with a stoic face that hinted anger. *Why won't he just cooperate with me and leave?* He just wants to end his struggle to stay alive but Sunny wanted more time and Omori doesn't know why, but he's not going to back down, he's not willing to give up, he's never willing to drop the knife, he won't stop until Sunny gives up. Though Sunny was sure he'll be defeated, there was still one more way to maybe persuade him to let him go and receive his comeuppance when he says the truth.
*A hint of light in a lightbulb -- The birth of an idea -- lit on Sunny's mind. Though the 2 are connected to ones consciousness, there was maybe a way to get him to give up. Finally*
The Duet.
Each one of OMORI's ERASE attacks starting from Phase 2 will showcase a specific object relating to OMORI himself or a grim reminder of SUNNY's sins:
Phase 2: Uses the RED HANDS move from the OMORI ROUTE.
Phase 3: Uses the realistic RED HANDS from RED SPACE.
Phase 4: Uses large clumps of MARI's hair, referencing her death.
Phase 5: Uses the distorted HELLMARI figure and a hellish version of SUNNY.
Phase 6: Represents SUNNY's guilt and self-hate combined into one devastating attack.
The wiki doesn't hold back.
It just came to me, why Sunny battles Omori (aka summary of all his guilt sadness and fears) by playing a violin. It is kinda on the nose but the day Sunny killed Mari was the day of their final recital which Sunny didn't want to participate in which in the end killed Mari. By playing this song in duet with Omori (aka Mari's piano (black top, striped shorts that look like piano keys)) Sunny fulfilled Mari's last wish that she had before death, playing that final recital. Plus to that he is overcoming himself and undones his mistake of turning down Mari which provoked the incident, this solo of his is symbolically ties loose ends of what Mari left after herself, this is the redemption Stranger was talking about
This OST.
THIS OST.
THIS IS THE ONLY OST IN THIS PLAYLIST THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO GIVE ME CHILLS.
HOLY CRAP
I HATE THIS BUT I LOVE IT
IM CLOSE TO TEARS YOU GUYS I-
Omori did not succumb
Sunny did not succumb too
Omori will not succumb...
but Sunny will not succumb either
May the sun shine upon this lord of cinder
This is me when the
ayo
@@mikage6904 ayo
@@Grungeenjoyer_n1rv4n4 you good man?
i play this in piano, starting in Do-Solm-Fam-Rem-Solm-Rem // Second part -> dom-solm-fam-rem-mib-dom // is just magic. Trying to accompany him is a feeling that you cannot often feel when touching something with your soul
a fight for control
a fight for life
a fight for freedom of this burden
a fight... for ending the pain
I cant think of a more heart-wrenching song in any other video game